The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. 28: Clearcut (1991)

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

This episode Brian and Nez head up north the Canada to help out in the fight against a logging company thats destroying the land by clearcutting all the forest in the 1991 drama/thriller CLEARCUT. Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com    

Cut the rest. You don't know nothing. I listen to you. You think I give a fuck what you say? Your words, your papers, your limp white dick. You think, you think you know what I think. You think you know me. Well, fuck you.

Back to another episode of THR present stream pains. I'm your host Brian. And with me as always as my brother is, what's up, man? Yo, man, I'm good. Just living. I'm back home for the movies and not ready to do this. Are you a jackass fan? Yeah.

I'm trying to go see the movie, but I'm the only one of my family that thinks are funny. We went to the late show and nobody was in there except for me, my son and these two other girls. So it was good. But it's jacking. It was as funny as it could be. I liked all the new characters or the new cast people they brought him.

That one big guy. I found him on Instagram as Zachass before. This was a few years ago. So it was good to see him in there. Whoever the girl was, I thought she was pretty hot. Yeah, I think she's a comedian or something. I think I was seeing an interview. Oh, okay.

And it was two black guys. Jasper and some other guy, I think he was from Europe. I can't remember his name. But Jasper, his dad was in it. I guess he was some old OG from the neighborhood. And the name was Dark Shark. He got involved in some of it. It was good to see not everyone.

I mean, BAM's not in it. But they were all the regular cast that they were all there. It was good to see them. And they did show a lot of old footage of, oh, damn, we did it this long and how they're all young they look. Now they're all old. Johnny was going back from gray hair to dyed hair. And it was just kind of going back and forth.

I don't know how long they took to film this. But it was during like now times because. There was times where they all had masks on and then you can clearly see the crew did, but they did what they can do, man. They still got out there and performed and I'm surprised Johnny isn't paralyzed. Yeah. The scene where he gets hit by the bull, that's been in trailers and everything already. But man, he came down hard and didn't even know what happened. he was like, did it look good?

Yeah, they say that's the one that he got a little bit of brain damage recently from that. Yeah, it rocked him pretty good. And he broke his wrist and broke some ribs. But he was all right, man. They continued. I'm surprised Steve-O didn't get brain damage.

He got hit in the head with, I think it was a soccer ball or something. That thing came full speed, boom, because he was like, man, that wrung me. but they do the gross things they do and there was some one part made me gag my son as well I hear he was over there going but I mean it is what it is

it is just just more nonsense of them it was funny though I really liked it all they doing the 45 days and then hitting Paramount Plus I think so okay well I watch it again once it comes back on But I was glad that we got to the theater and seated because we were getting ready because my son and I watched all the movies and he was ready. And then the old grandma or a bad grandpa or whatever the hell that one Johnny did with that little kid. So but he likes, he likes all that crazy stuff.

So it was good. He's 17. He was not a little. But it's cool. Yeah. Get out when you can. All right. But we are here tonight.

for a film that I had seen back in it was this this was 91 when I saw it because it was right when my um my wife and I came got together so but this is a film called clear cut on the edge of the wilderness

a battle is being fought between those with legal rights. We've been listening to all sides of the issue. And those with native rights. Tell them they lost. It's just a long battle. We haven't won you.

Now, a solitary warrior is taking the battle deeper into the darkness. I'm on your side. Where beauty becomes terror. Someone has to be. Dreams become nightmares. This is your revenge. And life becomes survival.

See a prayer. Why are you doing this? You know, maybe if a guy thinks he cuts down our trees and somebody will cut him. You got yourself the wrong guy here. We have to purify ourselves for what's coming next. Next. Comedy Entertainment presents. Stop it.

Graham Green. Stop me. Clear cut. You see? He's out there. Directed by Reza, Bugazzy,

I don't know, I can't pronounce it, but it was based off a book written by M.T. Kelly. It was called A Dream Like Mine.

But here's what Google says. After lawyer Peter McGuire fails to prevent a login company from clearing a huge swath land on the Indian reservation and embedded Native American man named Arthur becomes obsessed with inflicting suffering on the men who allowed his people's land to be abused. With revenge on his mind, Arthur kidnaps McGuire and an executive from the logging company takes them into the woods and begins to torture them in ways that echo how he feels they

harmed his reservation. All right, that's Google IMDB says a white lawyer finds his values shaken when he is paired with an angry indigenous activist who insist on kidnapping the head of a logging

company to teach him the price of his destruction. And this stars Ron Lee, a Michael Hogan, um, Raoul, Marx, Trujillo,

Tom Jackson, Graham Green, Floyd Red Crow, Westerman, rest in peace, and a bunch of other people. Like again, I saw this at a film festival when it first came out. It didn't really get a, like, wide theatrical release.

Because once I saw it that one night, I never saw it again until it popped up into a couple movie theaters like, a year or so later. It didn't hit all your main regals and whatever else you call it your theaters are. But I've seen it

three times in the theater because every time they did release it at a theater, I would go see it. And I was trying to get everyone to go see this movie because when I left it that first time at the film festival, I mean, I came out of the theater charged. And during, one of the scenes,

we'll get to it. People got up and left. It's like they just couldn't handle it. There was an older lady behind me. As they were walking out, the lady behind me went, what's she saying? Truth hurts, doesn't it?

It was a white couple that was walking out. I was like damn. But, Brian, what did you think of clear cut? This movie was fucking awesome, man. This is, I've never heard of this movie, so this is the first time watch. And yeah, true fucking hurts, man.

It shows you the fucking injustices that fucking go on. And Graham Green, man, was I fucking, I was rooting for this fucking guy. I just saw a character that was just, he had enough. And he took matters into his own hand. and I was kind of fucking with him all the way and I thought the supporting cast was good with Michael Hogan the guy that looked like Davney Coleman

yeah he played a fucking good like piece of shit like that guy did not fucking get it at all I thought there was maybe a point where he was going to finally get it but after some of the fucking things he was had done to him I was like, this guy, he ain't getting it now.

He ain't ever going to get it. And I just thought it was a fantastic film. It's labeled as a horror thriller. I would definitely call it the thriller, but it's not a lot of horror in here. There was some horrific things done. But overall, fantastic movie, they need to release this on Blu-ray,

something I needed it in the collection. It is on Blu-ray. It just came out. recently, but it's in a box set in the box set. It was like $170. I was like, um, shout out to,

um, Tyler from, uh, Godin Cinema. He's the one that told me about it. He goes, yeah, man,

it's coming out in a box set because he loves this movie. Um, it was on DVD, but it was like an import. I think it was like Germany. Um, I have a VHS copy, but I don't have a BCR.

So, there's a pretty decent copy on YouTube but if you have Shudder they just put it on there so it's full widescreen so I was like I finally got to see it again that wide in years I think the last time I saw it was probably

in the 90s the last time I saw in the movie theater but I don't want to buy that whole big box set just for this one movie I'm trying I can't remember it was like in a a folk horror box set I believe yeah I just pulled it up all the haunts be ours yeah I can't read this yeah it says folk horror on it it's got like there's like hell of movies on that in that whole box set but I don't even know I've heard a couple of the titles but a majority of that stuff is

Like, I don't even know what that is. So, I mean, I don't want to drop that kind of money for one movie. So I'm, my fingers across that it eventually gets its own release. Man, I'll pay whatever it is. But holy shit, it's $266. Oh, that's how much it is now? On Amazon. Oh, it was 170 when it first came out.

And it only came out not too long ago. Yeah, that's, uh, it's a hundred, price range right there. Yeah, it's a negative. Not for one movie. But I think I say boo legs will come eventually. Probably just like Blu-ray rips, but I don't know. We'll see how those come along. But yeah, this film, once I, when I got to VHS, I was going to a Native American education program downtown Oakland and on Fridays

it was a short day and they say you guys can bring in movies and everyone can watch them so I brought this movie in nobody heard of it I turned it on I sat in the back

because I was still kind of doing some work but some of the other natives aware that they were watching it man I was like man fuck this movie was hell good when did this come out

and I was like it came out a couple years ago but while I'm still in that program, there was a store, they had a screening for it at a, at a movie theater in San Francisco.

I saw it at one of our, um, our local, uh, native centers and, uh, I made a copy of it and I took it down to the school and I said, hey,

it's, it's going to be playing here. So, um, majority of the, the people that were attending this program, they were all in like, um,

a rehab program in San Francisco. go. So a part of their rehab was to come over and further their education. So they would come back and forth from San Francisco to Oakland every day. And one of the girls that was there, she was like, I know where this theater is. I'm going to go. So you should go. So that night of it, I jumped on the Barton went over there. She brought a bunch of people, a bunch of other natives in the community and from that program. And we all went in there and watched it. And yeah, when they were done, they came out hyped. charged. I mean, I did. I seriously, I came out of the theater like, God damn. I mean, this was a movie. I still think people should see this. If you have shutter, everyone has YouTube.

It's like a box. It's not the Y-H-Kin version, but you can still get the idea of the film. And this film is just awesome. I mean, I love it. I mean, I still watch it. today. I watched it three times on Shutter, just because I don't know how wide it was. And it's good.

Thanks, Shudder, for putting it on there. But, I mean, I don't know why they're label on this a horror film, folk horror or whatever you want to call it. I mean, it was basically drama, borderline thriller. My MDB has it down as drama thriller Western. but I don't know about Western Google is just drama thriller So I'm going to go with that But this all took place up in Canada

It wasn't Here in America I can't remember exactly which Reserve it was on Filmed in Thunder Bay, Ontario All right does it say what

Rez Geez Wikipedia has it down as horror thriller Yeah horrific stuff in it Yes But as far as

The traditional horror film This is not But I mean It's One of my friends Watched it And he was like

I He goes I was bored I didn't I didn't get what's happening. I was like, what do you mean? I mean, you like that heartless? He was like, he goes, I understand the struggle and what was going on. He goes, but it just wasn't a movie for me.

I said, okay, well, you at least understood what was happening. You just didn't like, oh, I didn't get it. He just said, he goes, it just wasn't for me. I respectfully disagree, man. I was in this movie from start to beginning. I mean, there was even moments. I was, there was kind of funny moments here and there.

Like, uh, not Daphne Coleman when he was so fucking out of it. And all of a sudden, he's just like asking, you know, he's basically ordered soup. Yeah.

Like, I'll, I'll take some beef barley. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? I was like, this guy's out of it. And then,

uh, I'm jumping all over the place. But when, um, Graham Green cuts his finger off. Oh. And then he tells, he tells, what's his name? He was like, I'll fucking make a necklace for your fat fucking wife.

And I was like, whoa, that's fucking hard right there. There was some people saying, like, did this really happen? Was it a figment of Peter McGuire's imagination? was it him doing all of this because he was feeling guilty for what he couldn't do for the natives in this area? Peter McGuire was a lawyer. They called him, oh, he's the man that speaks for us, meaning he's the lawyer for the Native American. I mean, the indigenous people of Canada, they're not Native Americans up there. And that was the story.

Peter McGuire was fighting for the natives in Canada because there was a sawmill that was clear cutting all the trees. And they were saying, oh, we're doing it so you guys can have jobs, so you can have paper products and this and that. But what they were trying to tell the environmental is, oh, this is where every tree we cut, we're planting more. but that's that's not what was happening. It was just, they didn't give a fuck. I mean, there's lands that,

there's land that they can, they can chop trees down. But once it gets on to the, to the, to the, to the reserve, laws are different. Some people don't think so,

thinking, oh, well, this is, this is part of our, our, our, our country. I mean,

the same thing, same thing that goes on here in America. I mean, Laws are different on each on each reserve here in America and I'm sure it is the same up north And so they were clear cutting the trees on this reserve that was going up there and the The the indigenous communities were fighting against them because it comes it starts off at pretty much a battle You see all these tree cutter guys from the company you see the police up there pushing back the protesters I mean which they should they they they're on their

all they're on their land but the police are pushing them off and tell them they look tell you tell they were telling the lawyer this tell them they lost hey palpici what does this mean for your people what's next what's next you okay Eugene where's Wilf you fucking white ass cars did this you fucking white mouth you lying mouth thanks pal you puk you kuk Where's the wolf, Tom? Mr. McGuire, you intend to appeal?

You said we'd win. I said that we had a chance. Do you mind? Please, Wolf. Tom, I said we had a chance. You still get paid when you lose. Let's hear somewhere. And they were going to cut down all the trees on there.

And that's why they were all out there trying to stop them. Like, this is our land. What the fuck are you guys doing? But they were like, man, this is what we're doing. We're taking all these trees and we're going to do all this and that. So that's where our story began. And Peter McGuire was taught. He was dealing with, I believe he was a tribal chairman.

The actor's name was Tom Jackson. He was a Tom Starblanket in this. This guy, I've seen him in all kinds of films. But he was dealing with him and he was dealing with Wilf, Floyd, Red Crow, Western. And he was just one of probably the one of the elders that everybody really looked up to. And when Peter was talking to Will, he was telling him, look, man, I don't, I don't think you guys are going to win. And Wolf was really, he was real positive. He was like, you know what?

He goes, it's just the battle. He goes, this is just one battle. We haven't lost the war yet. But he kept trying to tell him, it was like, look, I don't think you're going to win this one. I can go back and do what I have to do in the courts, but it's still going to come back and they're going to be more with the logging company. But he was like, nah, that's all right. And then Wolf asked Peter, like, well, what do you think we should do?

And he goes, well, we should blow up, kidnap the foreman of the sawmill and blow it up. Oh, he said that to Wilf, and he said it to Arthur, I mean, that was a later scene when he met Arthur. Because Arthur was just some guy that we just seemed kind of walking around. We didn't really know who he was, Arthur being Graham Green. So, but, but yeah, that was what Peter's part in this was because they went to the sawmill where the news people were talking and they were just trying to say yeah well you guys won this you won this round

basically pushing all the the natives off the land that was he that reporter wasn't shit either uh-uh and the people getting hit with clubs and she walking up to them

bending down so how do you feel about the situation right now or something stupid-ass question and I was this kind of makes you fucking mad yeah I mean it was I mean, it's the news. They don't care what's going on.

They're trying to get the story. So when Peter was there at the sawmill listening to Bud Ricketts talk, and he was acting like it was nothing. He was like, eh, all right, yeah, we, we won this part. And we're going to continue to cut the trees down. And Peter McGuire was like, you guys are full of shit. I mean, you guys, you guys are saying you're going to do this and you're doing that.

And they're like, hey, man, whatever. Kind of pushed them out of the way. And that's when Peter went to talk to Wolf and all of them. And he was just like, look, I'm going to do the best I can. But there's, he goes, I don't see it going your way. And Wolf was like, yeah, it's all right, man. We lost today. We'll pick ourselves up and start another day.

So that's when that's when Wilf was taking Peter to the other side of the lake because that's where town was. And then he was like, yeah, Arthur's going to go with us. So that's when Arthur comes into play. He was meeting Peter. And they were kind of going back and forth on the boat. And then Arthur looked at it. And he goes, so you're the, you're the man that speaks for us.

And he's like, yeah. And he goes, well, what does the man who speaks for us know? And then he just kind of starts grilling him on what the tribes are that are up there. And every time he, Arthur had asked him a question about the tribes and stuff up there. Peter was basically, well, I've read books on, on your people and everything. and Arthur was like, books. I mean,

the BS book, so yes, you can learn from books. But, I mean, don't try, this is, this pisses me off

because this has happened to me many times. When people, non-natives try to tell me about my history, he was, he was being nice. He was trying to help.

He was trying to help the struggle. Cool. But, I mean, don't, I mean, there's,

there's a lot of, radicals out there. I know a lot of Arthur's. Some have passed and some are still alive and they're still out there being how they are. And it it's good. I'm glad that they're there. I'm too old to be an Arthur.

But I mean, but yeah, when people try to tell me about my culture and my tribe, I'm like, get the fuck out of my face. I mean, I've got into many with my school team, my history teachers on Native

stuff. I mean, I've told them, look, I understand what's written in this book. I understand that. And I will learn it. But when I question them about, well, you're leaving this part out of the story about whatever they're teaching us. And then they're like, well, if it's not in the book, then it didn't happen. I'm like, all right. I mean, leaving the truth out.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. I mean, I've gotten into it during class and then, hey, you need to stay after class awake and talk. And I've gotten into many arguments about it. And it's, to me, it was just, we were going in circles. My teacher wasn't going to listen to what I had to say. I said, I'm not saying what's in this book is all truthful. You're telling us, no, this is, it's written in the book. This is how it happened.

I'm like, I'm like, all right, man, whatever. I mean, I got my grade with the grade I got. It was passing, but many, many arguments with my teachers. It wasn't just one. It was a few teachers, but. So, yeah, and that's when Arthur asked Peter, well, what do you think we should do? And that's when he said, kidnapped the foreman and blow it up. And Arthur was like, you really think that would help?

And he would just kind of like, hey, ha, ha, giggled and shrugged. off. We get to a scene where Peter McGuire is at his little motel room just trying to get some sleep and get his work done. But then next door you hear these people just partying. I didn't

realize it. And the people that were next door partying, that was the news people. Oh, really? Yeah, that was the anchor lady and the cameraman and producers or whatever. That was them.

I didn't even know. said either. So shout out to Skodin Cinema. He, yeah, when Tyler was talking about it, he had mentioned he goes, yeah, he goes, I didn't know that. I didn't realize that that was the news crew. And I was

like, fucking son of Vince that was. So there are there partying making all noise. Peter's pounding on the wall, but it's so center block walls. He ain't hear nothing to do that. about me. He's sitting there and someone comes knocking on the door and it's Arthur. And then Arthur comes in.

He goes, hey man, you're ready to do what you wanted to do? And Arthur, Peter was like, what? He said we were going to blow up the mill and kidnap the foreman. And he goes, you realize I was joking, right? And he goes, well, it's what you said, isn't it? And he was like, come on, man, I'm tired. And I just want to go to sleep. And that's when Arthur, what's going on over there?

Because I don't know. Just people being loud, why don't you go over there and make him be quiet? And Arthur, Peter was just like, I'm going to do what he has to say just to get Arthur out of his room. No, but let's get a second opinion here. Who thinks we were being loud? Now, let's vote, hey? Freeze your half. Jeez.

Okay, okay, look, it's cool. I'm pretty over. I know you. No. You don't know. Hey, we don't know you. Look, get them out of you. Everything's cool.

Party's over, all right? I remember you. You are the superior fucking race. Stop this. I just wanted it quiet, huh? Everything's quiet. So he goes the next door, I starts pounding on the door. And just telling those people, hey, can you turn the music down?

I'm next door I'm trying to sleep. And the guy that answers the door goes, oh, hey, Hey, man, I'm sorry about that. And then he goes, hey, man, let's just take a toll, a pole. So he turned around, hey, who thinks that we're being too loud? And while he says that, Arthur comes, pushes in Peter. Peter falls to the ground. That dude there, the door falls on the ground.

And Arthur comes in with his big ass ramble knife. And they're like, all right, all right, party's over. Let's turn it down. I think there was four of them in there three guys and then chick and then they were like hey man just get your buddy and get out of here

and Arthur was like he grabbed one of them he was like I know you he said no you don't no you don't and he goes I know you and he looked in that guy he was holding that guy by the front of his shirt

he was you're the superior fucking race and that dude shit you not. I mean, there was other people in the theater when I first saw

his people started clapping. I was like, damn. And then he commenced to like, you guys are out here partying,

making all this noise. And then the other guys that were like, hey, hey, man, just we'll turn the music down to your buddy.

It's all right. And then, Arthur pulled out some duct tape. And then they started rapping duct tape around them all. And they were like, oh, man, it goes, it's all right, it's all right.

Well, let's just, let's get over with it. And then after they had them all taped up, and he goes, what did she do? I know, we should kill him. And they were like, what? Because when he started taping up the blonde chick, he was taping her up and he was like, he had her, his back to him, to his front.

And he was like whispering in the air. He goes, he's the white, partying. all over the earth superior fucking race and she was just scared shitless and the other guys were as well one of them was talking shit so he kind of like just put wrapped duct tape around his mouth and did that to all of them so they were all like their whole bodies wrapped up their eyes the mouth and then peter's still standing what are you doing what are you doing we can't do this we can't do this and the other goes hey well you wanted them you wanted them quiet now they're

quiet. And then he was like, that club he pulled out of his bag. It's, it's just like a wood weapon, a traditional, uh, weapon.

I want one of those. Yeah, I need someone that had one of those up here. I thought he was going to bash that dude the back of his head in because he raised it up hell of hard. And Peter, and then the, the people all kind of,

they were wrapped up like, oh my God, what's going on? And then he just, he taps the TV and turns it off. And then he looked at him So all right man Let's go let's do some work

So they left Left the people tied up in the room And they're driving down the road And they we come across Um Bud Ricketts The guy that's running the mill He's getting gas at a gas station

And Peter and Arthur come Come up in the truck And just bram into his car And Peter starts screaming McGuire what the fuck What's wrong with you? you're Indian. Then he goes, what's the matter with you, you stupid Indian? You dumb

drunk and Indian. And he goes, what the fuck? And look what your Indian did to my car. And then Peter's like, get the fuck out of here. Shut up. He goes, he's going to get you. Get out of here. And then Rick gets just like, what the fuck? And then Arthur just rolls up the window on it. Or he grabs

him by the collar, then rolls up the window. So his head's in there stuck. I mean, there was other people at this gas station. So nobody saw this or came running out after this car accident. Maybe nobody cared. Bud's not a nice guy. So maybe they're like, fuck it. Yeah.

So we go to the scene and they threw him in the back. And they wrapped him up and threw him in the back of a truck. And then they took him out to the res. And they went to Wilf's house. and they had them in the house. And they were like, what are you doing? And Peter was talking to Will,

well, well, get him, get him to stop. He goes, he can't do this, man. He goes,

I can go and deal with the courts. This isn't, this isn't right. We can't do this. And then he's like, tell him something. And Wolf was like, shh,

sometimes the voice of an elder is overrated. And then they're like, oh, fuck. So the next day, they got in the boat, and they took, off and started

going across the lake and took him out to the other side and was like he started to torture him. Ricketts was all wrapped up and duct tape but he could walk but he was still kind of like

what the fuck man? He goes what am I doing here? What are we doing? And then he goes all right he was the Rickets started talking to our thing was all right you don't want us to cut your trees down, then quit using paper products. And then they're like, Peter's like, you don't get it. That's not why he's doing this.

He goes, well, why am I doing this? Or what's going on? What am I doing? What are you doing to me? And then Arthur was just looking at it. I'm like, shut up. Because I mean, Peter was telling him, just be quiet and go along with what's happening.

I'm talking to Arthur right now. I'm asking him a question. I was like, this is going to go so bad for you. Yeah, if you were to just shut up, maybe it wouldn't have been to win as bad. Once they got to the other side. And I know Peter tried to get away. But he, I think he knocked them out. Oh, no, that was before the hunters came.

Because they were tied up and they were like sitting up. Well, Peter wasn't. He was sitting there and Ricketts was still tied up, but Arthur was gone. And then they heard gunshots. So they looked around. They really saw it with some hunters. So Peter went run. Ricketts was telling Peter, go over there and get him, get him.

So he went running over there to the other side. Excuse me. And was telling him, hey, hey, man, we got kidnapped. There's this guy over there and he's got us tied up. And you need to help. And the hunters were like, wait, what? And then here came Arthur. And he had his little Winchester rifle.

And then they were like, who's doing the, Arthur? Was like, who's doing the hunting out here? And it was two white guys. And like, we are. And he goes, he goes, you can't be hunting out here. And he goes, this is Indian land. And he goes, I don't think so. And they were looking at it.

goes, well, I'm a fucking Indian. And those hunters were just like, um, they looked at them and then they were like, um, then they pulled out their wallets. And these were obviously rich guys like, here, we'll give you some money and we'll leave it at that.

So they just handed them pretty much a big old water money. Arthur just looked at it, put it in his pocket and pulled his gun back. And those two guys took off. But Peter was yelling at the hunters. Like, what the fuck, man? This is the guy. He kidnapped us.

And those two guys just like, we didn't see nothing. We're out. It was like Peter wasn't even there talking. So they cut out. And then they're like, fuck. So they went back over to the other sign. And it was like, Peter was trying to get at Arthur. Like me, you sold out for a few measly dollars.

And then that's when Arthur backhand him and threw the money. him. He's like, fuck, I don't know. He goes, I don't watch your money. And he goes, you think you know me and you don't know me. And he goes, let's stop fucking around here and do some real work. So they're like, oh, shit. So they took off again. They went to another part of the lake. And I think Peter was just exhausted. And then he fell asleep because he woke up by the water. And he, and there was. you were seeing water rocks and there was blood dripping on it. And then Peter kind of came to and was looking around and he heard Arthur singing. What are you doing? You're barking him. Well, you wanted them hurt, right? Sitting alive is what you said. Well, I am your friend.

neighborhood cruel engine. They can escape. They always do escape, wake up, gone from what they do. The bad ones, the terrible ones with their chainsaws and their log skitters. They always wake up gone from what they do. I'm cauterizing the wound. Or do you want him to bleed to death? I don't want him to bleed to death.

You think I'm cool. You'll forget about the trees that. You'll forget about the trees and the kids born stupid and the judges who laughed. You'll forget. Arthur will still be cruel. Stop it. Stop me. Is this your revenge?

You know that the soldiers used to play catch with the breasts of Navajo women. And they were slippery and hard to hang on to the soldiers, they'd all laugh. Arthur's cruel and I forget why. Well, it's time for them to pay. Hey. How much? More than this. This is enough. Enough.

This is nothing. This is only one man's leg. God damn you come cheap. And he walks over and you hear Arthur singing and then all of a sudden you hear and then the camera pans over. Arthur has, Ricketts, has his his foot pinned to a tree with that big, knife or

I think it was a and he must say had two knives because he had that big knife it went through a shoe and it went into the tree and Arthur

had a little fire going and he was he called it debarking his leg this fire was really brutal Ricketts is laying

there all duct taped up he had a stick in his mouth and Peter was like what are you doing what are you doing he goes goes, I'm debarking him.

He goes, that's what he's doing. And Rick is ah, and Peter's like, you can't do this, you can't do this. He was like, well, why not? And then he got, he gets, after he slices him, he gets, and he was like skinning him,

debarking him. He would, after he would kind of pull the skin back, he had a stick that was in the fire and then he'd cauterizing the wound. he was thoughtful carterizing wound put a stick in his mouth so he wouldn't like

bite his tongue off or anything and he was telling him what are you doing he goes I'm carterizing the wound he goes I don't want him to die he'll bleed out and then he's like ah and he goes you can't do this and he's like he goes you know what back in the day

the soldiers used to play catch with the with the with the with the breasts of Navajo women. And he goes, and they would just laugh because they couldn't catch him because they were all slippery. And then Peter's like, boy, what? And he goes, he goes, he goes, this is nothing.

This is one man's leg. And then he was basically telling him, look what they fucking have done to us. Look what they're doing to our land. He goes, how fucking cheap can you be? I mean, which is in actuality. true though I mean this is one guy's leg compared to all the genocide that was going on still people's those people still don't think it's going on it's going on and all the stuff that's going on to the native lands here in America and up there and as well as the other

indigenous populations throughout the world things things are happening it ain't shit you're seeing on the news but it's going on open your eyes if you don't think so So he was like, yeah, so they, they, he goes, all right, man, we got to get going. We got to finish the ceremony. Because then he wrapped up his leg and then they took off again. They got to where they were going to go. But then, why there was, they were both passed out, Will, or Rickett. So this is, that it was after they got his leg and they got back in the boat.

That's when he started. Yeah. want some soup and some crackers. Yeah, I mean, at this point, all the shit that was, there was happening in him. It was starting to catch up, but he was losing it. I'll settle for some tomato soup if you got it. I was like, what the fuck? Because he was just, he was just trying to just make it through all this.

But we see, um, um, um, Wolf comes, uh, walking up. And Peter's there. And earlier in the film, before Arthur took over, they were having a sweat ceremony and a sweat lodge. And that's basically just going in there. It's different tribes do it different ways. I've done it a few times. And it's helped me a lot. I have not gone to ceremony in a really long time since COVID started.

So I need to go back. I need to cleanse myself just a little. lot of negative energies building up in me. But what they were doing is they go in there. You go into the sweat. It's covered up. There's a little, a little pit with some lava rocks in it. It's really hot.

You put them in there, then you get some water, and then when you dump the water to the steam. Basically like a sauna or whatever. But I don't know how hot saunas are, but these things can get pretty hot. And if you're not really used to it, man, your body will get used to it. Because the sweat is like being inside. It's basically like the mother's womb, your mother's womb, on how hot it is in there.

So that's how it, that's, again, ceremonies are different. I'm going to the logistics of what ceremony. It goes on in there. But that's, that's what it is because they show you in the movie. So they were in there praying. Wolf and the other guys that were in, other elders were in there singing. And Peter was in there.

And he started to have a vision. And Peter just wasn't used to it. And his vision, he saw Arthur. And he also saw blood in it. So again, that was earlier in the film. But when this scene, when we see Peter and Wolf shows up, And Wolf's like, he goes, this is your fault. And he goes, you saw blood.

You saw death in your vision. He goes, he was telling him. He goes, you brought all of this on. And Peter was like, what? And while Wolf and Peter were talking, here came the police. I assume Canadian mounties or whatever. They came riding up in a boat. One of them jumped out to help Ricketts.

and they were kind of helping helping him up. The other one threw Wilf down and all of a sudden shot started going off. One of the cops got shot in the head and then he shot one of the other.

There was only two of them. He shot one of that second cop. He kind of fell down and Arthur walked up on him and he had that little wood club. It was the asshole cop from the beginning. Oh, that was him.

Yeah, that one that was talking all that shit and throwing everyone right. Yeah. And then he just fucking bashed in his head. And Peter was like, no, the blood went splashing into his face. And that was willful. You, you visioned blood.

You visioned death. This is your vision coming true. So they were like, fuck. I mean, two cops are dead now. So they threw them back. back in the boat and they took off. They didn't take Wolf with him. I think he just went back home because they were walking through the woods.

And Arthur was pulling the canoe along. And Peter was holding rickets and dragging them along. And Wolf was telling him, I want to tell you a story. This is a story about. What was his name? Well, Cedar Jack. I think that was his name. And he goes, and he goes, he was an indigenous trickster.

And he can be trusted. He was a deceiver. And he was trying to just kind of kind of, trying to tell him a story and trying to warn him about what was to come. And from what I got out of it, I don't know how you took it, but it made it seem like Wilf was trying to warn them about Arthur. Mm-hmm. So and but Peter was like, wait, what?

I mean, so much was going on, he wasn't thinking right. But then, yeah, that's when Wolf took off. So they got to this part where they got out and they were going to go up this hill. And they were dragging. Peter was dragging up, uh, rickets. And then Arthur came up behind and Peter kicked Arthur. And he went, just rolling down the, uh, the hill. And Arthur came running.

running back up and punched Peter and Peter went rolling down the hill and then got knocked out for a minute but then he got Arthur grabbed Ricketts and drug him up to the top of the hill and it was like just a beautiful um cliff shot yeah view cliff shot but when Arthur was walking along with Ricketts he was like do you see it and Rick is like what no and he goes do you see it and they they stopped on this like um it was like a rock basically a cliff and ricketts was like what what no what and he goes then arthur goes do you see it he was like no and he goes well you i'm gonna leave you here until you do and he threw him on the ground and he goes so you can watch all your machines cut it all down i was like fuck yeah this is when you get to the point where he's he's just not

he's not going to ever get it. I mean, he was, the shit that we was doing the moment, I was hoping that he would get it, understand what he was doing was wrong. I mean, there's a way to, to do what they do with these logging companies.

There is a way to everyone be all right with it. Yeah, but Ricketts, man, like I said, just not going to, because there's a scene where he's, he's over here talking about, well,

this, you're not going to have no paper to write on, but, you know, they're talking about, you know, they don't have plumbing. They don't have this. They don't, you know. And Ricketts is over here talking about writing on paper. Yeah, because he was telling him, because he was like, well, he goes, well, you guys, my, we're supplying jobs so you can have power and, and running water and everything in your communities.

And Arthur was telling it goes, power don't work. Running water doesn't work. And the sewage is all backed up. And the Rick is like, well, get off your ass and fix it. Go go talk and tell somebody about it. It's different. Again, it's different in every rest. But it's not as easy as you can think.

I'm most, hey, my plummies not work. Let me just call the local plumber to come up fix. It's different on the rest. Yeah, well, you know, that's privilege. Yeah. Yeah, my, my grandmother. Some people. Oh, fuck, yeah.

My grandmother, my mom's mom and dad, um, majority, pretty much my whole childhood. They did not have running water and they did not have electricity. Was it because they didn't want it? No, it was because of it, where they lived on the reservation, it just didn't reach there. They got running water first, but after I was a teenager by then. then they finally got electricity.

And I was like, man, we went, again, our pretty much our whole life, our childhood going there every summer with no electricity, no running water. If we wanted water, we had to go to the local well with this big huge container, filled it up with water, these big drums that we'd fill up with water. and that was our water that we planted, our water that our cornfield, water that we fed the animals, water that we drank and to cook with.

And you had to make that last. You couldn't just, ah, fuck it, let me fill up a swimming pool. No, you needed this water to survive on the land. And as far as electricity, I mean,

I remember thinking, man, this is like, we're living in the stone age. Here, grew up in the city my own life with running water and electricity and TV and all that. This is before the cell phones and before all the video games and everything.

So it was like, man, we just did what we had to do to have fun. And I'm glad what we did. And I was glad I was able to experience that. My other grandparents, my dad's parents, they never had electricity or a running wall ever. And I don't think that house still has any running water electricity. And they live on a different part of the resin, the deep, deep part. Like, I don't even know how to get to their house.

My dad always forgot how to get there, but we always found it, eventually found it. But, I mean, it's true. I mean, depending on, again, every reservation is different on how things work there. And the reserve that they showed here looks like they were out of ways. Yeah, they were right next to the lake. But then sometimes that water isn't very good. Are you? Oh, I'm sorry.

Because even in that movie Prophecy, that one from the 70s, that was going on back east. That was dealing with a sawmill as well. Same situation, too. They were going in there and chopping down trees. trees and everything on the res. And the natives there didn't want them to. But then there was some other shit going on in that film as well dealing with the paper mill is what they called it.

But yeah, when in this one, once he got him up there and told him, look, man, well, I'm going to leave you, leave you here until you see what happens on what you're doing. So Arthur was like he had enough. He was just sitting there and it looked like he was praying. And Ricketts was like just leaning up against a tree. And Peter eventually made it up to the top of the hill. He grabbed Ricketts and I was trying to get out of there. But Arthur, you could see him. He was like squatting down and looked like he was praying.

But then he opened his eyes because he heard Peter. He let them get all the way down to the bottom of the hill. he'll make it to the boat. And then Arthur got down the perform. And this is when Peter and Arthur got into it. Ricketts were just laying there beat to hell. They started fighting. But then Arthur eventually got the best of, or Peter got the best of Arthur and like

stabbed him in the chest. This is the part where I, at first, when I first saw it, I didn't understand it. But then this is when there were people were saying that did they think this really happened. because when Arthur got stabbed he like kind of just looked at at Peter and kind of walked looked at him sideways and kind of gave him a little smirk he walked into the water

and then just kind of walked backwards until he was just kept going until he was fully submerged and then there's a above camera shot and you just see Walter sinking into the water and the reason I see

I think that Arthur wasn't there or and it might have just been in Peter's head and all this. This is just me but some people will say no Arthur was there and it really didn't happen. In the beginning scene in the boat when Peter and Arthur were talking, Peter asked

Arthur and he goes where are you from? Arthur reached into the lake, grabbed some water and threw it in Peter's face and then at the end of this we see Arthur sinking back into the water.

And Arthur had the, if you're looking into the poster, Arthur has this little silver, leather, like medallion type of thing around his neck. There was a little girl in this film in the beginning. She was just kind of walking around. Then you see her throughout the film. She's,

at the end, when Arthur disappears, the next scene we see, Peter and Ricketts stand there and Peter made a fire. And this is when we see a wolf come up. He comes up in his boat and walks up and walks over to them.

Hey, nice fire, white man. It's all right. It's time to go back. So then they take them. He takes them back to the other side of the lake and that's where the cops and everything are there. The cops help out Ricketts. They grab Peter. They handcuffed him. But before Peter gets put into the car, squad car, we see that little

girl standing there. And she's holding Peter's briefcase that he had lost the beginning of the film. And she has on Arthur's necklace. And then that's Peter's taken out to jail and that's your movie. So, I mean, people are, some people are saying that Arthur just didn't exist and Peter did all of this. But then, I don't know. Man, I mean, it could be and it couldn't not be, but, I mean, there was, there was other people that saw Arthur. So I, I don't know how true that is.

Maybe the book says something different, but I didn't, I never read the book. Is it possible he was a spirit, but he was a spirit that people were able to see? That's what I was thinking, too. That's what one of my friends was saying. He said he probably, he was probably a water spirit. That's why when Peter asked him, where are you from? And he threw that water in his face. And that's why he disappeared into the water.

Because he didn't like, when he got stabbed, it wasn't, he wasn't like bleeding out or anything. He kind of just fell and then got up and seemed more annoyed. Yeah, he didn't. Pain or anything. Yeah, he acted like it didn't really phase him. And then he just went back in the water. But I don't know. I mean, this is one of those movies.

He said, we don't know, really. But when it was said and done, I would like to know what happened to Peter. Did he take all the blame for this? I mean, even if they questioned him, where's Arthur or what happened to him? And I'm sure they took Wilf as well. Yeah, he was in the car with him. Yeah, I'm sure they took him to jail. And, but, well, I don't know.

And that's what Peter's going to go. I don't know who this guy is. And I don't know. This is what happened. So, but. Yeah, I don't know the story afterwards. I mean, Ricketts didn't die. He was still alive, but maybe he was probably, I don't know, either he went nuts or he healed up and went back to his old waist.

And I don't know. I'm hoping if he did go back, got his sanity back. I'm hoping that he does realize what he went through and what he's doing is wrong. So, but I don't know. I mean, I think this is a film that everyone should see. It's an amazing film. beautiful cinematography and the acting was just awesome and uh i've loved graham green before this because he's been in a ton of other movies that i've seen in but if i was ever to meet the man

i would tell him this is my favorite role that you have done he said that before he's did interviews when people asked him what his favorite role was and he goes goes to this film because um i I could see other native actors doing this role, but he did it the best. He was no joke. He was straight up about what was going on. And he's from Canada. He's from the United Nation up in Canada. He's from the Six Nations Reserve in Sequin, Ontario, Canada.

and he's been in all kinds of things he's uh he helped John McLean in uh diehard 3 in uh the dancers wolves of course teamed up with Val Kilmer

Thunderheart oh man that's I think that's one we need to do too that was hell of good he he just doesn't do um uh dramas a lot of dramas he's done he has done um he's He's funny.

He's a funny gentleman from what I understand. Because he did, he was in that movie, Averick with Mel Gibson. And that scene was hell of funny. Just look up Indian scene Maverick on YouTube. It's Graham Green. That part was awesome.

A little, little small role in Green Mile. He was one of the, he was the native, I think it was the first guy. They got electrocuted in that film. But he's been in everything. He was in Wind River.

Yeah, he was. nominated for his role as kicking bear for dancers of wolves he didn't win I wish he would have won because that would have been awesome but Graham Green's an amazing actor he's got tons and tons of roles that he has done

I mean I hope to meet him someday and I would love to sit down and have a conversation with this gentleman but yeah that was clear cut again it is streaming on YouTube if you have AMC Plus it's on there it's a part of the little shuttered there or or if you just have shuttered uh it's on there as well you have shuttered don't you through amc plus it mich was telling me it doesn't have everything on there no

streaming is weird because there's stuff that's on like if i have certain channel through amazon prime a movie won't be on that channel through amazon prime it'll be on that channel through Roku. So there's like different weird streaming deals. Okay. I see that both flesh for Frankistine and blood for Dracula her on shutter now. So I got one of them. I got blood I got blood for Frank, uh, Dracula. Oh, you got that box? Yeah. Is it one disc or four? Oh, where is it? I didn't get that one. I'm going to get it. let's see if I

think you it is two three disc one of them's a CD soundtrack okay and I got

I got flesh coming I think your disc will be okay your 4K because the first go around that they were saying there was something wrong

with the 4K disc because I just got the replacement the replacement disc. So I think everyone else that's got it. Because I got it during the pre-orders

because I wasn't sure if it was going to sell it or not. But I'm glad I got it. Thanks to you, man. You were the one that said it was coming out. And I was straight there and bought it. I didn't care. I had to have that one. But

yeah, clear cut. On YouTube. as well as Shudder and AMC Plus, so definitely check it out. All right, Brian, you're up. All right, we're going back to Tobey for 1984's Savage Streets. With Linda Blair. Yes, sir. Linnea Quigley.

Savage Streets. I have not seen this in who knows how long. Same here. It's been shit or couldn't even tell you when. Action crime drama. Best of the best of the 80s. Their law is it. Their only law is an eye for an eye, savage treats.

Oh, fuck. I saw this in the theater too. Man. shit there's hello fools in this all right cool it'll be like being watching it for the first time because I just saw it the one time and I don't even remember

all right streaming recommendation oh sorry let them know I forgot my pick this week is going to be if you haven't seen it

Antlers is now on HBO Max so check that one out. It's a good one. It is? Yes. All right. All right. I think this is on

Sh, yeah, it's on Showtime. Check out Harvey Kytel in 1991's Bad Lieutenant. He was ruthless in that one. Did he the second one?

with Nicholas Cage? Yeah, that one's weird. I didn't, I didn't see it. It's strange. Yeah, check out Bad Lieutenant. If you have showtime. It's a movie. All right.

What you guys got coming? We got a regular episode coming. Hopefully we could, excuse me, we can get it recorded before the big game starts tomorrow. And tons of anchor. Check out our last anchor. episode everyone um mike came on and we did uh collider dot com's the 21 best horror movies of the 1970s nice we ran down that list and there was some i didn't see and there was some that

that mike saw so pretty good yeah we've been like the list show on our anchor feed and our other feed we just haven't had time to sit down and do a full episode yet but we got a bunch of what's mainly going to be the Zisu on that one he's a bunch of movies he's watched I've only watched a handful of new movies so um probably do a big old conversation of Spider-Man because we haven't even sat down and talked about

that yet as well as probably um what we think uh book of Boba Fett since that's wrapped up and um a little bit of peacemaker talk it'll probably be just the Zsu because I haven't I have any more watched any of it yet.

By this point, I'm just going to let it finish before I sit down and watch, watch it all. So, I mean, there hasn't been too much spoiled to me about that show. So we'll see. But yeah, that's all we got coming for E Society. But go over to Anchor because we've been dropping episodes on there, like left and right. Oh, I made this announcement on our socials and everything. E Society isn't just the Skater Ness Podcast Network. It is a part of two different podcast feeds being Podbean is our main hub

and our second is Anchor, but we did a lot of stuff. Shout out to Joel. He was the one that kind of hooked us on that. I didn't even think we were going to use Anchor that much, but with a combined number of the poddbts, stuff as well as Anchor. We have dealing with the E-society, not just the regular E-society show, we're dealing with E-society, ESP Rewind, Fight Society, Skate Society, Skate Society, Up to the Challenge,

original remake, and as well as all the other things we got here on Anchor. A toll, and within the four years of us doing this, I think it's been four years, four or five I can't remember. We got 709 episodes. I did the tally. And I'm like, damn, I did not realize how much we have done.

Because we're only like on episode one, something on, on just a regular E society. I think we're like at one. Let me see. I don't really remember. 244 was the last one we did I thought I thought we were in the hundreds

still already yeah 244 oh also check out the last ESP rewind Taylor and I did this word this title Reroni Kenshin I think that sounds right yeah the first one we'll eventually dabble hit the other ones

as soon as I watch them all but yeah 709 episodes that we've done. That's not including all the shit I've done with Magnus podcast as well as the action and stream fiends and wrestling

returns and bonus and everything we've done. But as far as close to a thousand with E-Society is 709. And I was like, wow, I couldn't believe. I listened to Chris Hardwick's podcast. ID-10. He's like in the

thousands. This is episode 1000. and whatever, whatever. I'm like, goddamn. I don't think. Were we ever going to get to that? Well, I guess we're going to get to it soon within a year or two. Because I didn't realize we did 700 episodes. Yeah, shout out to the Zis too.

And everyone else has been a part of the East Society. Brian here, you've been in a bunch of those episodes, at least a few hundred. I need an East Society T-shirt. Yes. It's going. That's coming, everyone. Who are you guys using, T-Public? Yeah.

Do you know, or that Lance's deal? Yeah, I don't know nothing about it. We'll be unveiling our updated logo. That's as far as I have to do with the T-shirt stuff, but that's all Lance. Yeah, I'll ask him how it works. I have no idea. We need to get one going. We're still working on a logo for a newer one.

We're going to updated one. I have one of my friends doing this stuff. I got to talk to one of my other buddies. Also, he's going to help us design the action returns one. And it's not anytime soon, boys and girls. So just wait. I don't know about stream fiends. Action returns, that one will look fresh.

If there's any artists out there that's listening, that wants to do up something, a logo or something, feel free. Appreciate it. Don't know. We'll give you shots out. Don't ask us money because we don't have any.

We don't have that Joe Rogan money. Yeah. Far, far from that. Yeah. I ain't got paid one cent from doing all of this that we've done.

So, but yeah, everyone, come back next time for Savage Street. So until then, Please be safe out there and party on. And for the horror returns, by the time you hear this, you'll hear our My Bloody Valentine episode,

new and original. And next episode will be our 300th horror returns episode with Texas Chansaw Massacre, original, and I guess direct sequel that's coming on Netflix. But until then, everybody be good to each other.