The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #3: Run (2020)

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

This episode Brian and Nez check out the new Sarah Paulson HULU Original RUN.    Also on The Horror Returns Network listen to our second show The Action Returns and please join the Facebook group an...d follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But what about, I mean, Chloe is... Smart? Brave? Faced more emotional and physical challenges from the moment she was born than most adults ever will. Chloe is the most capable person I know. If there's someone to not worry about, it's her. Welcome back, everybody, to episode 3 of THR Presents, Stream Fiends.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm your host Brian and with me, of course, is my brother, Nez. What's up? What's going on, man? Just living and hopefully I'm good. I'm starting to feel a little sick, so we'll see how that goes. But I feel all right, but it just coughing, sore throat and all that. I can taste and smell everything. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:01:17 knock on wood I just got a regular cold yeah hopefully it's just that in your mind's kind of playing tricks on you thinking because I know a couple times if I wake up and I have a cough I'm like damn
Starting point is 00:01:34 do I have it but then I feel better later that's the first thing that goes in my head I was like ah so but I was feel I've been feeling this for the past few days at least three or four so figured if it hasn't kicked in by now I'm all right again
Starting point is 00:01:58 knock on wood but I don't know we'll see tomorrow yeah I don't know how severe that test is going to be because the first time I took it it's like it sucked it didn't touch like the back of my brain but it went in there far enough for me to not enjoy it so, but, uh, supposed to be better now. I don't know, we'll see. My wife took the one where it touched the back of her eyeballs the other day.
Starting point is 00:02:25 So, she said out, she goes, I know you wouldn't be able to handle that one. I'm like, ah, so I don't know, we'll see tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Tell you guys the other results next week. All right. Before we get into the movie, I know we like to start with a little chit-chat. I have a couple questions. First, um, how do you feel about,
Starting point is 00:02:46 because the warriors, they're not in Oakland no more, right? Nope. How do you feel about them putting Oakland forever on their new court? Okay. De Zisu and I have talked about this off air. No matter what the warriors do for him, he's always going to be a warriors fan. He didn't grow up in Oakland. He grew up in the Bay, but he's not from Oakland.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I believe he's from the Richmond area. As an Oaklander or just a East Bay native, I don't know. To me, in my opinion, everyone, that's like a slap in the face and a disrespect to the town. So, fuck all that. I mean, that'd be like if the Oakland A's were playing in San Francisco. No, fuck that. Hell no. But, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But, I mean, there's a lot of die-hard fans. good and some of everyone was like oh hell yeah that's cool but majority of the fans that I've been listening to all the stuff online and some of my friends none of them live in Oakland so but I don't know Theo's all about it
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'm sure he'll get the shirt or the jersey or whatever it is but if I can get the chance man I'll go in there and burn that or cut that thing off the court that's me all right second question I know you watched it
Starting point is 00:04:24 Cobra Chi season 3 trailer oh fuck good to see that what was a kid's name Miguel Miguel yeah good to see that he's he woke up from his coma
Starting point is 00:04:39 because if you guys spoiler alert you guys should have seen it already you had like over two years to watch it good to see that he's awake but it does look like that he can't really walk because the way he fell
Starting point is 00:04:55 off that balcony and landed on his back man I'm sure that did a lot of damage but I'm hoping that he's like hobbling around the beginning by the end he's kicking ass because I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:05:11 if they're gonna he's gonna need him but it does look like John Crease has got all his crew, his soldiers ready to go. It seems like Hawk is the leader now. He's my favorite. Hawk. That kid's badass.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I wonder because it looks like what's his name might be joining a Cobra Cod, the guy that was the bully in season one. Yeah, I don't know. That Asian boy? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like that asshole. So
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'm sure he'd He wants to learn because he got his ass kicked that first season. He wasn't even in the second season, was he? No, that's how bad he got his ass kicked. Yeah, he got roughed up in the cafeteria. He was an asshole anyway, man. He was always lying about Daniel's daughter saying that she did this and that to him in the movie theater. But I follow you young girls, that's how guys are.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I mean, no matter what they tell you, they only want one thing. And this is a father and a grandfather talking. So, hey, I was a boy, too, and I understand the young teenage ways. But I wasn't like that. I didn't force myself on anyone or make of lies. But, yeah, just find a good guy. But the thing that just blew me away, I mean, there was a lot of just rumors going around that certain people were going to come into this season.
Starting point is 00:06:44 maybe even the fourth season if we get one. What I wanted was for Terry Silver, Mike Barnes, to come back. And then Daniel and Johnny were going to have to need help. And then for some reason, they would go to Japan and get chosen. But it doesn't look like it's going that way. But Chosen and Kamiko.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I think that was her name. They show him in the trailer, and it does look like chosen is... I don't know if he's just sparring with Daniel or what, but when they showed his face on the screen, I was like, oh, my God! I was like, fuck, man, man, I was naked. I was like, oh, I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:07:36 If you follow... I don't even know that guy's name. I think it's like, you're Rocky or something. I can't remember the guy. actual name but who man I'm juiced I can't wait to see
Starting point is 00:07:51 what happens it looks like they go to Japan for some reason I'm I'm gonna say Daniel goes there to kind of clear his head yeah I think just to get everything from what everything
Starting point is 00:08:05 everything happened in season two maybe has to go do some tie up some loose ends dealing with Mr. Miyagi so maybe that's his okay I need to go I need to get away but I got to go do this in
Starting point is 00:08:20 in Okinawa so hopefully that's the reason why he goes over there and then of course he runs into him and I don't know man I mean just
Starting point is 00:08:31 we got to it comes out next month I don't know when but I believe I want to say the 8th of January we will be
Starting point is 00:08:41 tackling the karate kid franchise for the month of January. Ooh, man, but I don't know about four. Got to do it. It's canon.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We're not doing the Jaden Smith one. That was like the Kung Fu kid. They weren't even in Japan. They were in China. But I'm ready. I can't wait for season three. It sucked at all this happened because we should have been out already.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But once the pandemic started, It just, it halted everything. So it's good to see that they worked something out, figured something out so everyone can be safe. And they were able to film the whole series. So hold third season. Season four is confirmed. Okay, good. They got to bring Mike Barnes and Terry Silver back.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Man, they have to. I follow the chosen guy on Instagram. And he put up a video. and he said, I can finally say something now because everybody's been, everybody and their mother's been asking them. Are you going to be in season three? Are you ever going to come back?
Starting point is 00:09:53 And he was always, no. He goes, no one's ever asked me. I kind of have no interest. He was playing the role. Like, nah, that was something I did a long time ago. I don't want to do it again. Of course he was going to do it. I'm sure they showed him that big check.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He went, all right, I'll do it. Even if it wasn't a big check, shit, yeah, he'd do it. I mean, this show is so hot right now, it'd be dumb to say no. There was no, Ali, Elizabeth, Hugh in the trailer, so hopefully maybe she just pops on a couple episodes, which would be good because there'd be no way for her to fit into the storyline because she's married, Daniel's married. I don't think she'd mess around with Johnny again, but I don't know. we'll see all right let's get into this movie
Starting point is 00:10:49 um originally was supposed to come out earlier in the year in theaters I believe may I think they were trying to mayor
Starting point is 00:10:57 whenever uh Mother's Day was I think they were trying to make this like a Mother's Day release and that is 2020's run which is now
Starting point is 00:11:08 a Hulu original exclusive whatever they call it will she be okay You do everything for me. You'd teach me. You'd cook for me. Am I a burden?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Sweetheart. I could do more. I'm your mom. It's my job to take care of you when you need me. And you need me. Are you okay, Mom? Of course I'm okay. I have you.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's messed with her head. What's wrong? Sweetheart? I really need you to help me. Lolly! Good night. Sweet tooth. You figured it out.
Starting point is 00:13:19 This is a thriller mystery suspense, I guess. Really quick. Hulu has it. It's PG-13. They have it down for drama, thriller, horror. Take the horror out of there. thriller, I can live with that. Let's go with
Starting point is 00:13:47 synopsis on Google. There is not one. So we'll go to IMDV. A homeschool teenager begins to suspect her mother for keeping a dark secret from her. That pretty much is it. All right, here's the one on
Starting point is 00:14:03 Hulu. There's something unnatural about the relationship between Chloe and her mom, Diane. Diane has raised her daughter in isolation controlling her every move since birth. And there are secrets that Chloe's only starting to grasp. That sounds a little more exciting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:23 IMDB need to step it up. Let's see. This is directed by Anise Chagante. I apologize, sir. He previously directed Searching with John Cho, which was a decent movie. Pretty good. That was really good.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I like that one. Yeah, also written by him, and Sev O'Hanin. Yeah. This film stars Kiera Allen, Sarah Paulson. Pretty much that's it, because that's them for the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like I said, originally was supposed to come out in theaters on Mother's Day, but because of the pandemic, Hulu snatched it up, released it on November 20th, and Nez, what did you think?
Starting point is 00:15:13 think of run? I liked it. I thought it was, it wasn't a new story. This story has been told many times. Speaking of Hulu, it kind of reminded me of that one
Starting point is 00:15:33 miniseries they had with Patricia Arquette. Was it the act? Did you see that? No. Check that out. It's kind of borderline like this, but it's based on a true story, right? Yeah, that one was a true story.
Starting point is 00:15:50 So, but I was, okay, Sir Paulson, I can take her or leave her, because she just seems to bug me. Mainly for her roles in American Horror Story. I did like, I didn't finish Ratchet yet, but I liked her in that. But she did a good job. I mean, I liked what she did in this, yeah, the other young lady. She was good as well. And yeah, it was mainly them, too. It was a bunch of other people that just kind of popped in here and there,
Starting point is 00:16:21 but nothing really major for them. But overall, it did keep my attention. I didn't read into it and watch any trailers, so I didn't know what it was going to be about. So I was like, okay, whatever, cool. Let me just check it out. But shit, man, a couple minutes into it, man, it got, like, all right, let me put my phone down.
Starting point is 00:16:43 and man I was like I was just like into it that from beginning to end it didn't it wasn't very long was it because it kind of seemed to fly by fast uh I don't think so it had to have been like a hour an hour and a half okay that's why it flew by so quick where are you still all these movies that are like two hours now or two hours plus but um yeah man I thought everything in it I mean the story was good the suspense was there
Starting point is 00:17:14 and because it had me like hurry, hurry, hurry with some of the stuff that was going on in there. But I didn't see the twist coming at the end. So, spoiler to everyone. I mean, you know how we do it here. We're going to, we're going to spoil it. But if you haven't seen it, this is new and you want to see it, I advise you to watch it first, then come back and listen to what we have to say
Starting point is 00:17:39 about it. But yeah, overall, I really enjoyed this film. Will it make my top 10 of the year? I don't think so, but it would be, it would be a runner-up because, pun intended. I did like, I liked everything that was happening in it. And all the main two actors are really good. Sarah Polson can just be a good, crazy person.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So, I mean, that was why I was on board with it. She has a great facial expressions for crazy. Um, yeah, I dug it for the most part. I thought it was well acted. Um, there was some suspense there that I was, uh, digging. Um, it was well made, well directed. I kind of saw the ending coming, which, uh, the wife had, she had called the ending from the trailer. I don't know how she got all that, but she called that.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Um, I'm also kind of up and down with Sarah Paulson. Um, there was a scene. in American Horror Story where I was, I can't remember I totally tend to just her constant screaming and crying and I was just like, no, I can't do this. Ratchet
Starting point is 00:18:56 she was really good in Ratchet. But everything that I really enjoyed about this movie was with the daughter played by what was her name? Kira Allen. Because I was just rooting for her.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Every time a little secret was of her build. I was like, oh, that's fucked up. Oh, you, you got to make it. You got to, you know, do what you got to do. And it's just everything that was happening to her, I was just pulling for her through this whole movie. And, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:28 I don't know if it'll make my top ten of the year, but it will definitely be a runner-up. And, um, yeah. Pretty much, uh, the story's pretty much, uh, I've, I've kind of like I've seen the story before. Yeah, I mean, I would watch it again. I told my wife, she likes these type of films, and I told her, she was like, I never even heard of it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I said, well, okay, I'm not going to tell you anything about it. Just watch it. I mean, I guess I should know what she likes for being married almost 30 years, or together almost 30 years. But yeah, I think she'll enjoy it. My son, he likes just watching anything. it's suspenseful, so I think he'll dig it as well. But, again, this was, it was really good. It also had the vibes of misery. Yes, definitely. It reminded me of that at times, and as well as that Hulu original, the act.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It kind of reminded me of that, too, of what was going on in the film. But again, I didn't watch the trailer. now I'm going to have to watch a trailer to see if I would have been able to figure out because I did not see it coming at all. I was far from thinking that. So, but, uh, this, uh, where were they? Did they actually, did they say where they were at some in the country? Um, no, the only thing that was ever said was that she wanted to go to the University of Washington.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So that's the only thing as far as location. I'm trying to look that up right now because they seem to live out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, because that would kind of almost be the only way this would work. I mean, like in misery. Annie's, her house was way out in the sticks in the woods. And that movie, in that show, the act, they were in a little neighborhood, but that the little daughter was just so weak from her medical condition so she really couldn't do anything much less get out of the house so but with this one it's it kicks you right in the
Starting point is 00:21:53 guts in the beginning because we see diane her character she's in a hospital she just had a baby a premature birth and we see the baby um but props to the uh the special effects guy because it wasn't a little CGI baby, it was actual practical effects, but I had to kind of look away. I just don't like seeing
Starting point is 00:22:21 little kids like that. It's too hard-breaking. So I just kind of like, okay, I know what's happening. Let me let me just look at my phone for a minute while they're talking. Because she's sitting there looking at, looking
Starting point is 00:22:37 in one of those little incubator things that the baby was in. The baby was breathing. And then she, I assume the doctor said something to her because she's, well, what's wrong? And then nobody, nobody answers her immediately.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It's just kind of quiet. Yeah. And then we flash forward 17 years later. And we got, geez, what were their names? Diane and Chloe. Diane is sitting in a a class for
Starting point is 00:23:11 homeschool parents I guess kind of going over the curriculum of what they need to do for their homeschooler because the teacher is kind of saying, well, Chloe's getting ready to go off to college, right? And how do you feel? And she's like, oh, good. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So Chloe's not there where the Chloe's at home. So then we're introduced to Chloe and she's throwing up in the toilet and she's in a wheelchair. Real quick, Diane in the meeting for homeschool, did you automatically get a sense that there was something off about her? Yeah, because the way she, when that lady asked her and said, well, are you okay? You happy as she's going?
Starting point is 00:23:55 She does add that, yeah, okay. She didn't seem too excited. So that's when my will started turning. Okay, she's not happy. I mean, I could see that. She was. a single parent. They never even mentioned who the dad was, did they? No, and they don't mention really something else we'll get to later that I have questions on. Yeah, so Chloe's at home. She sees, she hears the mailman coming. She comes, she is hauling out, she in her wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's a two-story house. So she's kind of hurrying into the door. then her mom comes in and she's like, Chloe's looking at her. She's like, you didn't get anything and, you know if something came from colleges, I would give it to you.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And Chloe is like, oh, okay. I mean, I can see that Chloe just, just wants to get out of the house. I mean, she doesn't seem, she's like she's being abused or beat or anything.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So, but I think she just wants to get out on her own, just go start her life somewhere. I mean, yeah, she's in a wheelchair, but you can still get your life going. So, I mean, there was no hesitation on what was going on. Because once we kind of get to know them, when did, well, there was all kinds of, at the beginning of the film,
Starting point is 00:25:30 they show, they kind of give you some little abbreviations for some of the things that was wrong with Diane. because she's chronically ill with good luck I'm looking at it now on Wikipedia Arthemia amchromatosis
Starting point is 00:25:55 diabetes and paralysis and there was something else I can't remember but those were kind of the main things it doesn't say what the these are. I guess I should have, I guess you should have took a picture of that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Essentially, she has many things wrong with her that requires constant care every day. I guess the Arothia Mia or whatever is a cardiac type of thing, condition or where the heartbeat is irregular or
Starting point is 00:26:30 beats too fast or too slow. The hemo, whatever, is some kind of genetic disorder characterized by excessive intestinal dis-espiration or dietary iron
Starting point is 00:26:45 result. I think I was probably why she was throwing up. Diabetes, you guys all know what that is, and paralysis, the loss of motor function, and one of more of her muscles. Yeah, her legs, she couldn't walk. That's why she was in a wheelchair. And they said she had some kind
Starting point is 00:27:02 of skin disease as well because she said she always had like her body had like rashes and everything on it. She had a whole cookbook of disorders. But she was really smart because she was, what was she building in her room? I thought it was a computer, but it wasn't. It was like a, I don't know. It was some technical,
Starting point is 00:27:29 because she's like really skilled in like technology and like building stuff. So it was just She builds stuff for fun Like you see in the movies Where people are building stuff They got like soldering irons and all kinds of stuff She can like rewire stuff And a super smart girl
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah it says here Chloe is skilled in technology and engineering She's awaiting her acceptance letter From the University of Washington So It's obviously super smart All learn from home So I think that's really cool
Starting point is 00:28:02 but then after we kind of realize who she is and what her goals are it says one day Chloe discovers unfamiliar green pills apparently prescribed to her mother had how did she notice the green pills is that just when her mom okay here here's your pills because you gave her like a few of them in a cup did she just look at it and notice something different no um she had never had a green
Starting point is 00:28:32 pill with her medication before and there was a scene where the mom was outside she had just brought in groceries and the mailman was coming and the mom always went and checked the mail sometimes she would cut her daughter off from checking the mail and i guess as a treat chloe can only have chocolate every now and then she can't have too much because of i'm assuming diabetes and stuff so when her mom was talking to the mailman she like went through the grocery bags and was looking for her chocolate and she found the pills and that's when she saw the name on her her mom's name on the bottle but then later the pill was being given to her and then she brought up she was like I thought these were your pills and the mom was all like oh you must have read it wrong yeah she kept trying to give her some kind of excuse so at that point I was kind of like all right the mom's doing something to her to to make her her, obviously feel sick. Because again, we've seen this story many times in different films.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So I was kind of like, okay, the mom's up to no good. Because that one scene, when the mailman was coming, Chloe was racing to the door. And then when she opened the door, her mom was like already right there at the door with the mail. But then when Chloe looked outside, she's seen her mom's car and her door was wide open. and the car was still running. So, yeah, that's when I was like, all right, she is up to no good. So I was kind of, that's when I was, I was just thinking, okay, she's, she's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:15 She just doesn't want her daughter to leave. Maybe she just kind of have like that, that, how Carrie's mom was. She's like, everyone's going to laugh at you. Why don't you just stay here and live with me? And we'll live happily ever after. So I was like, okay, it's that kind of situation. But Chloe was just determined to figure out what these pills were. Yes, you guys may be thinking, well, why didn't she look at her phone or why didn't she get on the internet?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Her mom wouldn't give her a cell phone. I don't remember the reasoning. Yeah, she's just like, oh, I would be able to do this if I had an iPhone. And then her mom would just be like, yeah, okay. And then we'd just kind of not even acknowledge it, really. Yeah, because when Chloe was still
Starting point is 00:31:08 trying to figure it all out, she, late one night, she went downstairs to use the computer. But she got onto it. And once she logged in and everything, the internet wasn't working. So she was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And then she was like, damn it. So she kind of like just, well there was nothing she can do but did you notice the mom standing in the kitchen? Yeah, in the dark. Yeah, I didn't notice that until the second time. Yeah, that was a great scene right there because you don't really notice it
Starting point is 00:31:43 and then you catch it. I think something happens with some lighting or something or a shadow or something, then you just see her just standing there and she's just been watching her the whole time. Yeah, so obviously the mom is kind of seeing that
Starting point is 00:31:59 Chloe is up to something but she never questions her so she's all right there was a time they were kind of like well hey we should go to a movie we haven't been to a movie in a long time so like okay well let's go
Starting point is 00:32:12 so they end up going to the movies Chloe tells her mom oh I need to go to the bathroom and she's like why and then she kind of holds up her soda she had a big large soda she said okay well go ahead so Chloe rolls her way out of the theater
Starting point is 00:32:27 and then there's a drug store across street it's where they get all the prescriptions so she hauls ass over there the thing that said I was like I was like hurry hurry she got to the corner and then she had to wait for the light
Starting point is 00:32:43 I was like damn and then she finally gets across and then she rolls in there she wants to talk to the pharmacist and she comes around the corner and there's a big old line must have been like six people standing there. I like this scene. I was like, fuck!
Starting point is 00:32:59 I was like, what is she can do? Because she kind of looks out the window to see over at the theater. It doesn't see her mom coming. I got a question with this scene in a second, but she kind of goes up to the first guy standing, or the last guy in line, I guess she obviously
Starting point is 00:33:15 knew him. He was like, hey, is it okay? I'm kind of in a rush. Is it all right if I cut in front of you? And he was going, all right. No, he didn't know her because he was like, ready to say she's yeah because he was gonna say no but as right before he said no he turned around and seen her in a wheelchair and then he's just like oh yeah okay you can go ahead so she uh just asked him but then rolls all the way into the front of the line i would
Starting point is 00:33:43 someone should have said something and then uh the pharmacist knows her because she's asking her well what uh what's going on you okay what do you need and she wants to she pulls out The pills, the little green pill, it's like half green and half gray, I think. And she's trying to tell what is this? What kind of pill is this? And the pharmacist is like, I don't know, because Chloe says, oh, well, my mom gives me this, whatever she had said. And then did she call someone first? Remember she called someone to find out what color of pill was and found out whatever the pill that she should be taken and was red?
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah, it was supposed to be read. And at first she wasn't going to tell her about the medication because it was in her mom's name and the whole confidentiality. But then she convinced her by telling her they're playing some kind of scavenger hunt game. And she showed her the pill. And then she looked it up. And that's when we get the reveal, which I was like, that is fucked up. Yeah, she was Her mom was given
Starting point is 00:34:58 That green pill Green and gray pill Her mom was given her With some kind of muscle relaxing for dogs And she was like What? And right when she found out
Starting point is 00:35:10 Her mom comes charging Into the store Okay, here's my question How did she know To go to the drugstore? I mean there was other stores And everything there It wasn't just like
Starting point is 00:35:21 The movie theater And a drugstore Hmm my question was where's this dog because they just don't give you medication for a dog yeah without a dog so and clearly
Starting point is 00:35:38 clearly they're according well from what I got from the daughter there never was a dog so yeah because her mom comes charging and screaming looking for her and what did she say to her mom
Starting point is 00:35:54 I don't even remember she was kind of in the days from what's going on from what was being told to her and then out of nowhere the mom injects her in the neck or something
Starting point is 00:36:09 and somehow this is okay with everybody that's because that's right because she was getting all bad and then her mom just stabbed yeah I'm like nobody called the police or authorities or something
Starting point is 00:36:25 and I just I don't know she told him something what is she telling them that she just she gets this way because of her medication or something
Starting point is 00:36:34 yeah I mean I don't know about that I would have called CPS like quick yeah if I saw some lady just stab her daughter in the neck with a syringe
Starting point is 00:36:43 yeah because even if she had to take that injection you don't you don't get stabbed right in the side of the neck oh hell no so after that
Starting point is 00:36:53 um it says said she was having an asthma attack or something. Yeah, that's right. Because when she was getting mad and worked up, she started having an asthma attack. And then it says,
Starting point is 00:37:07 Chloe wakes up to find that her mother is not home, and she is locked in her bedroom. Obvious means leaving or contacting the outside world have been sabotaged. But Chloe manages to escape the house with difficulty. Okay, now I'm jumping ahead. yeah so she wakes up and she's like fuck and she's like she's in her room and she tries to go open the door but it's locked
Starting point is 00:37:32 she doesn't have a computer she don't have a cell phone or anything and she's her room's on the second floor so she's like fuck fuck she's just trying to figure out what to do and then she kind of goes over to the window uh where was she going first of all just crawling over to another side window yeah I think just to just assuming that she could get to get out of the because she couldn't get to access the rest of the house from her room because the door was locked so I guess she figured if she went through the window which I love this scene when she just straight Mr. Bill and I science guy the window with science all right that what was she trying to do why didn't she just break it because you
Starting point is 00:38:20 They have to show that she's super smart. Because she puts water in her mouth, which is amazing that she held it in her mouth that long to crawl to the next window. And then she has a soldering iron with her. And then she spits the water on the window and then touches the soldering iron to the window and the window bust open. So I assume it was cold or something. I don't know. That's why I didn't get how that worked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Why didn't she just get the solder iron and break the window? Yeah, I think they were just trying to stick in the fact that she's smart, which I liked it. It was showing her ingenuity, I guess. But yeah, you're right. She could have just hit it with something. But that was cool, though, because when she crawled out the window, She's, uh, luckily there was an awning around the house. And she's like, her legs are useless.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So she's just, oh, she has a mouth full of water. And she's like just crawling, using her elbows in her arms to pull herself along. I thought she was going to fall off because her legs were hanging off the side of the awning. So I thought she was just going to, ah, fall off. But she, she made it around. Then she got to the window, did all that science stuff. And then, uh, got into that, back into the house. She crawls over to her door.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Her mom had a Jimmy rig with like a garden hole. So it was like so she couldn't open it. So she just knocked out of the way. She went in. She got her wheelchair. She kind of rolled out. And how she gets down the stairs is one of those little side little automatic elevator type things that they just kind of go right along the stairs. So she got in that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 She was ready to go. Then she looked and saw that her mom just tore out all the guts because all these wires were hanging out. So she was like, fuck. And then this part was crazy because she like, okay, she was like, well, what am I going to do? I got to get downstairs. The little thing, the little platform that holds her wheelchair, there's like a little guard, a little guard flap in the front. So she, once her wheelchairs on her, it just doesn't roll. down because then she's like fuck so she gets her wheelchair and pushes it over that little flap and
Starting point is 00:40:56 then it goes bouncing down the stairs i was thinking why didn't you just lay that little flap down why'd you have to throw it over but that it's a movie so she gets uh was she trying to crawl over it because she fell down the stairs i don't know it because i think she that's what her intentions was to crawl down the stairs, but that's not what ended up happening. I think that her weight opened that flap up, and then she rolled down the stairs. So she gets out out of the house and gets in her wheelchair. Again, they live way out in the sticks, so she's hauling as fast as she can down the road. And she sees somebody coming, so she's like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So she rolls off the road, kind of hides in the bushes. I mean, luckily that big bush was right there for her to hide behind. But it turned out that it was the mailman coming. So she's like, oh shit. So she's trying to roll back out into the road to stop the mailman. But her tire, her front, I think it was her front tires or whatever, little small ones, not the big ones, were stuck in the dirt. And she was like, fuck, fuck, she couldn't get it out. But she got out enough to get in front of the mail truck.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I thought it was going to hit her because she, like, just rolled down the street and went and just. covered her face like it was going to hit her. But then he stops and jumps out and he knows who she is. He was like, Chloe, man, what are you doing out here? And she's like, did she tell him that her mom was crazy?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah, basically she was telling her she was being held captive and abused and and he's seen all the marks on her, which were, you know, self-inflicted from her trying to escape.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, because, so he's like, all right, so he loads her up into the back of the mail truck as they're getting ready to go. And here comes her mom. Diane comes up. And then she kind of stops. No, no, no. Chloe wasn't in the truck yet. She was in front of the mail truck, like hiding. And then her mom goes up and starts yelling or starts talking with the mailman.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Um, so I think he, whatever he told her, she was kind of like, well, okay, okay. Because then that's when he loaded her up into the, into the mail truck and said, all right, we're going to go. What, what did, uh, Diane do to him? I don't remember. Did she stab him? Okay, let me see. Uh, Chloe manages to escape the house with difficulty and flags down the mailman. But before he can take Chloe to the police, Diane runs into them. near the house and it just says kills the mailman. Oh, she stabbed him in the neck with the syringe.
Starting point is 00:44:01 That's right. And then he- She keeps those syringes with her. Yeah, so he went down and, I guess she just killed him. She didn't kill him right there. I think she, because she got him into the house.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Because there's a scene where you see her, she see her dragging him down in the basement. because she ends up, I think she knocked out Chloe again. Yes, she did. Because as Chloe again awakens in prison in the basement with her wheelchair change. She discovers that the acceptance letter, and okay, let me go back low. So she wakes up downstairs. She's like, fuck, she was trying to roll away, but her wheelchair is chained up.
Starting point is 00:44:42 She's not tied up or anything. So she's like, damn it, she kind of looks around. She notices this box. I think it just said Diane. on it or something. No, no, no. Before she opened that box, she sees a bunch of letters.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And one of them's from the school she wanted to go to the University of Washington. And she opens it up and big bold letters, congratulations. Obviously, this was her acceptance letter. And then you could just see her look like, fuck, bitch. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:14 but anyone would do that. If your parents were, whoever was trying to hide your acceptance letters, So I think that's when she noticed that box and then she opened it up and started flipping through it. And she found a death certificate for a baby. And then this was this was the twist. She looks at it. It says Chloe Sherman and then when she was born and all that.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And then it said when she died, she only lasted like two hours and 11 minutes or something like. that alive before that little baby died. So I was like, oh, that was a rough take. And then so she's like, because they were kind of doing flashbacks as well. And then she finds this little news article. We see these two parents crying and they're saying that somebody stole their newborn baby from the hospital and was never seen again. And whoever stole them is still on the run.
Starting point is 00:46:18 this is why I didn't understand why she would have that bit of information it's only for us because the same thing I'm like why the hell would you have that you would try to hide your you obviously did a good job hiding for 17 years so that one little key of information will be the downfall for you And which it was because Chloe found out that this wasn't her mom and her parents are out there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:46:55 So she's like, fuck. And then how'd she get out? Did her mom come home? Yeah, she came home and Chloe was like confronting her about what she found. And basically she's just explaining why she did it. And Chloe needs her and they need each other. and then I have a question, what was that mixture she was making?
Starting point is 00:47:24 I don't have no idea. They didn't really go into it. I assumed that it was something, of course, because Sarah Paulson in this movie likes to inject people with shit, I assumed it was going to be something that would kind of make her require her to give her care even more.
Starting point is 00:47:46 But she's like, It already looks like kind of like tar. Yeah, it was all gooey. Yeah, but then when she's further mixing it up, she's pouring like paint thinner in there. And I'm like, are you trying to make her die? I don't, I don't, I didn't understand what, what the stuff was going to do.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah, um, I, I have no idea. They really didn't go into what it was. Um, I watched it twice and I, that still didn't know what that was. It definitely looked like something that shouldn't be injected into nobody. Yeah, I don't know what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Maybe that was what she pumped into the mailman. I mean, I don't know. But, um, so Chloe is arguing with her mom telling her that um, this is, uh, Diane's real daughter,
Starting point is 00:48:44 uh, boxes continues further. Diane answers the basement where Chloe confronts her with that what she has found without naming it, Chloe accuses Diane of inflicting fictitious disorder imposed on another on her through her childhood and wonders if she is really ever generally sick. Diane denies Chloe's accusations and minimizes her kidnapping and then insists that she is the only one, only acted to help Chloe. Diane produces medical equipment and fills a syringe with a neurotoxin.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Okay, I assume that's what she was making. Like a dead death shock. Yeah, intent on maintaining her role as Chloe's medical caregiver. Chloe escaped. And okay, after she figured out and argued with her mom, letting her know that she knows what's up, that you're really not my mom. she kind of rolls into this closet storage room. And then she's like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 oh, fuck. And then she's looking around and she sees some kind of like household cleaner. Because when her mom comes in, she tells her, she goes, all right,
Starting point is 00:49:55 well, YouTube, because they were going back and forth saying that you need me and all that. And then she's like, all right, whatever. And then she just downs,
Starting point is 00:50:03 whatever that is. Because she read all the later. That was hardcore right there. Yeah. To, go to that level be because she, I think
Starting point is 00:50:14 Chloe knew that her mom wouldn't just let her die. So she drank it and that was the only way that she was able to get out the house and take her to the hospital because Chloe wakes up. She's in the hospital. She's got all the
Starting point is 00:50:30 stuff hooked up to her, the things in her mouth. And she can't move or do anything because she's like, she wakes up and she's like she can't talk she can't do anything nurses are coming in and out her mom is there and then um did her mom leave
Starting point is 00:50:48 yeah well yeah because they're trying to she's trying to basically take her home and they're like no she can't because uh I think I think she admitted her to the hospital by saying she tried to commit suicide oh that's right she did she told him that what she had tried to do. So, hospital rules, if you
Starting point is 00:51:12 try to kill yourself, they got to report it, and then you've got to basically go into some kind of lockdown for, I think, 24 hours or something like that, so they could watch you. Buddy of mine did that. He wasn't on tent and killing himself.
Starting point is 00:51:28 He was just getting into it with his girlfriend, and I was like, dude, you're fucking stupid. This is years, years later after I told him. He's alive and well, good family man. Not with that girl. anymore. But he did this kind of drank something to just
Starting point is 00:51:42 he says he wasn't trying to kill himself but I don't know. He was in a bad situation but anyway so. Yeah I think her main thing of getting her out of there she didn't want her waking up and telling them what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So I mean I don't know well I assume whatever she drank really just messed her up because she wasn't able to to move or anything. I mean, her mom didn't come in and do nothing because there was all kinds of doctors and nurses everywhere. So when the doctors told Diane that, look,
Starting point is 00:52:18 we can't let her go. She's got to go see other people once she's up to and being able to leave a hospital. So Diane's kind of like, all right. So she kind of leaves the room. Chloe's laying there and she's like looking at the nurse and the nurse is like, oh hey
Starting point is 00:52:43 and talking to her but she can't say anything but she's looking like looking at her she's looking at something on her and then the nurse realized oh do you want to write something because she was looking at the pen and she kind of like barely nods her head
Starting point is 00:52:58 yes and then she's like oh well I can't give you this pen because since you tried to kill yourself it's against hospital policy for me to give you something like that
Starting point is 00:53:12 because you know you might try to stab yourself or something so during that I was like oh fuck I mean because I was just trying to like hurry she wants to write something so luckily the nurse goes
Starting point is 00:53:25 oh hold on she turns around opens up a little cabinet and then she goes okay here you can use this it was a crayon and I was like all right cool so she hands it to Chloe but she can like barely write anything. So she's trying to write and the nurses look in,
Starting point is 00:53:41 then all of a sudden there's some alarms that go off, and there's an announcement, okay, we got a code blue and whatever, whatever room. So everyone's, I assume she was like one of the only nurses or doctors there because everyone takes off and leaves Chloe there. So she's like, fuck. And then this is when her mom comes walking down the hall. And if you put two and two together, her mom calls something.
Starting point is 00:54:05 for everybody to go rushing over to another part of the hospital. Yeah, because she has a gun. Oh, she did? Oh, that's how she did, because she goes back in. She starts pulling all the stuff off of Chloe and that long thing that was down her throat to give her air. She pulled all that out and everything and throws her in the wheelchair. And Chloe at this point still can't move. She's just, like, paralyzed basically.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So her mom's like rolling her down the Down the hall And she's like okay They're almost out of there The nurses come back And they're the bed is empty And they're like well What's going on?
Starting point is 00:54:48 Then they kind of start calling her Hey did you Move patient whatever whatever And they're like no we didn't And then that's when the lady's like She the nurse looked down at the Little piece of paper And Chloe wrote mom on it
Starting point is 00:55:03 So she's like okay, she figured something was happening. So that's when they called security, and then this is when security rolls up on Diane. They were almost out of the hospital, but they got to a staircase, and then there was some escalators. So they're like, fuck, what they would do?
Starting point is 00:55:21 By then, three security guards came rolling around, and this is when she pulled out her gun. Did she pointed at him, or did they just see the gun and shoot her? I think she pointed at him, or she was attempting to point at him. Okay, I think, yeah, because she kind of spun around. Chloe is still sitting there in the wheelchair because she can't do anything. She spins around.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'm trying to see if it says anything here. Armed with gun kidnapped Chloe before. She's questioned attempts suicide. Diane from pushing the wheelchair, giving security time to reach them. Diane is incapacitated by security, falling down, a flight of still. doesn't say if she shot or anything but um no she got shot in the shoulder
Starting point is 00:56:07 yes because she got shot and then she just falls backwards and then uh oh um go back really quick when uh Chloe was laying in the bed she was looking down at her feet and she was stuck she was able to
Starting point is 00:56:24 to move her toes and that she wasn't able to do this throughout the whole movie all because her mom was giving her all that stuff So when her mom was trying to push the wheelchair when they were at the stairs, it wouldn't move. And then she looked. And then you could see Chloe had her feet down. And she was like looking at her. That's when security came running up.
Starting point is 00:56:46 And then she turned around with a gun. They blast her on the shoulder. She falls down the stairs. And then the camera kind of pulls back and you just see Diane laying at the bottom. And then it says seven years later, Chloe has gained partial use of her later. again and regularly visits Diane who is bedridden in prison okay this this was this was I was thinking like what why the fuck would you still go see her Diana's alive she's in prison though and then we see Chloe she's still in a wheelchair so she's rolling
Starting point is 00:57:22 around but she's still able to she's it she's finally able to walk a little bit but she has to walk with a cane because she has to go through security And then she rolls into the little medical ward in the prison. And Diane is sitting there. And she just looks like rugged, like a zombie. Yeah, that looked like more than seven years. Yeah, because she was all hell of skinny, skinnier, and her face was all kind of sunk in.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And then Chloe's just looking at her and calls her mom. And I can't remember exactly what she said. because I think she told her that Chloe was married now, and she has a child, and she's developing prosthetic limbs and everything for children. So that's what she was doing with her life. But then she kind of like sticks her fingers down her throat, and then she coughs up something,
Starting point is 00:58:25 and it's a little, like a little sandwich bag or something. And it had those green pills. in there, right? Uh-huh. Yeah, so she smuggled in those pills and then looked at her mom, said, okay, mom, open up
Starting point is 00:58:41 and then that was the end of the movie. So, yeah. Okay, I can see why that she's still acting like she needs to see her mom because she was basically doing to her what she did
Starting point is 00:58:55 to her for 17 years. But when Chloe was looking through all the pictures and everything when she found down the basement she did find a picture of herself when she was a little baby or a little girl toddler because
Starting point is 00:59:10 she saw it and she was running around. It was a picture of her running like in a park or something so she knew that she could walk at some point and all this is what her mom did to her. I was kind of hoping they would do flashbacks of showing Chloe when she
Starting point is 00:59:26 was little maybe in a wheelchair and maybe her showing her mom giving her those pills and everything. But the movie's over with Evil is punished and I really liked everything that was going on in this. It ended good.
Starting point is 00:59:44 It wasn't the happy, super happy ending where I thought Chloe would come walking in and be all good, but I think 17 years of her mom giving that, I'm sure it just damaged all kinds of muscles and everything inside
Starting point is 00:59:58 of her and her legs. Oh yeah. So, but it was good, though, that she could walk a little bit. And she was doing good with going to school with all the stuff that she had learned. So I liked that factor of it all. But overall, this movie was good. I really enjoyed it. What do you give it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I'm right there, like, at a seven, seven and a half. I really enjoyed it. This is probably one of the better things I've seen Sarah Paulson in. The main, the girl, Chloe. Kira Allen. She did a great job because I was pulling for her through this entire movie, and I thought that was all based on her acting and everything. And I kind of dug the end because she's going to make her suffer the way she suffered for 17 years.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And like we just talked about just the look of Sarah Paulson, she's doing a good job because, like you said, she was all skinny and face sunken in, and for some reason she was all gray, and it looked a lot longer than seven years. Yeah, that was cool. It was a good ending, but, I mean, actually thinking about it, she, Chloe would put in herself out there because if she gets caught doing that,
Starting point is 01:01:21 smuggling in drugs, first of all, into a prison. I mean, that's a big no-no, everybody. And doing what she was doing to her mom, I mean, that would definitely, she'd be in behind bars if they caught her. But I don't know. I'm sure maybe she could get out of it somehow. Maybe I have to do a little bit of time if she got caught. But I'm sure she would, well, shit, she did it to me for 17 years. So I only did it for seven.
Starting point is 01:01:49 So, but I want to know how did she get her to start taking these pills? She's probably forcing her. I think maybe the first few times she forced her, but then seven years later doing that the whole time, she, yeah. I would have liked her for there be a scene or a line where she basically tells her if you're not going to take these pills, I'm not going to come see you anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I think Diane did want to see her, but she did have that that look of distress and dread on her face when she was looking at Chloe because Chloe was just going, all right, mom, open your mouth and then you see her mom and staring at it like kind of sideways.
Starting point is 01:02:42 She was like, oh, fuck, but I mean, I thought it ended good. I mean, the way it ended like that with them, like just seeing Diane, and then the movie was over, I was like, oh, okay, good. I really enjoyed this film. What do you give it?
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'll give it a eight and a half. There was a couple little things in it. Maybe just a little minor nitpick, but over it all, eight is a good score. It's better than seven or better than Lance's high scores for no reasons. It says it boxed off is $1.8 million. I mean, was this in the theater? I think
Starting point is 01:03:27 Selected theater But from what I understand It broke records on Hulu I didn't I didn't even know about this movie Until you mentioned it Yeah let me try to find an article I don't know if it was like a
Starting point is 01:03:41 It was watched by a lot of people In like 24 hours something like that Okay Uh I'm trying to see Where it was a maid isn't okay
Starting point is 01:03:58 here it is Hulu's newest thriller run has broken the record to become the streamers
Starting point is 01:04:03 most viewed film during the opening weekend when did so it was there
Starting point is 01:04:08 this came out November 20th so over that that weekend it came out it was their most
Starting point is 01:04:14 reviewed movie ever okay or viewed not reviewed but viewed well we gave it
Starting point is 01:04:22 we gave it our review and we both enjoyed it Yeah, I mean, if you guys listen to it all the way and we sold it to you, definitely check it out. I mean, it was a really good movie. I really enjoyed everything. One of Sarah Polson's better performance.
Starting point is 01:04:43 The one that I tapped out on in American Horror Story was the election year or whatever. That's funny. You said that. That's the one I did. I eventually finished it, but it was like, way after, I think a couple more seasons had came out after that. And I was like, let me go finish it. But yeah, her screaming and crying in every episode, I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah, because she was, what, scared of holes or something? I don't know. Scared of holes, scared of clowns. Like, didn't want to leave the house. And it's like, ugh. Yeah, I was just like, okay, I can't take it no more. I just, I tapped out. I never even went back to any.
Starting point is 01:05:26 more of them. I mean, I don't know. It just it started to lose me. I like the first couple seasons and then I think after the circus one, I just like, eh, I just gave up. I heard the slasher one's good.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Was that the 80s one? Yeah. I've been meaning to watch it, but never, something else, something else always up. Something else always pops up and I end up watching that instead. But I don't know, I'll eventually get to it when I can. But, um,
Starting point is 01:05:56 All right, everyone. That was THR Presents Stream Feens. It's my pick. I'm going to stick with the holiday theme. Well, this wasn't a holiday theme.
Starting point is 01:06:09 But this is streaming on HBO Max. This is a film that came out. I guess I should have this all pulled up already. Sorry about that, everyone. This came out a few years ago. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:06:26 When exactly. Exactly. It came out. This came out in 2002, November 22nd. I remember seeing this in the theater. And this is Friday after next. This is the third Friday film. Of course, it's got Ice Cube. Mike Epps, his second film, he returns. And of course, John Witherspoon, rest in peace. Katie Aubur, Kat Williams, before he went all nuts. Terry Cruz, he's in it. I am a boy, Damon. This movie is awesome. I have not seen it. This is one of those ones I watch every year.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I remember when it came out on DVD. I saw it in the theater and laughed my ass off. But when it came on DVD, I took it to work, and we watched it over and over. So I haven't watched it again this year yet. I was just kind of like, we hardly ever do comedy. So let's, uh, I was looking at the lovey-dovey romance movie ones, but then, uh, this one that came across. And I was, ah, shit, I might as well stick with the holiday season. This is the Christmas Friday.
Starting point is 01:07:40 So, uh, we'll come back, uh, next week with, uh, Ice Cubes Friday after next. Two, 2002, shit. That was a long time ago. Oh, yeah. Uh, yeah. Yeah. So come back, uh, next week for that. Um.
Starting point is 01:07:56 We just dropped the action returns when we're dealing with the first two movies of the lethal weapon series. So definitely check that out. East Society's 200th episode is out. So all of you that listen to that, thank you so much. And yeah, we'll be back next week with another episode of THR Presents, Stream Fiends with Friday After Next. And with action returns, we got Lethal Weapon 3 and 4. So be there or be square.
Starting point is 01:08:29 So until next week, everyone, thank you for listening. Be safe out there. Wear your masks and party on. Yeah. And like I said previously on the action returns. Next episode of the horror returns is a Patreon Picks episode. And after that,
Starting point is 01:08:48 the rest of the month will be Christmas themed horror movies. And that's it. So like, Like Ness said, everybody be safe. Keep warm because I'm trying to because it's cold a shit up here. And see you next time.

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