The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #31: Scarface (1983)

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

This episode Brian and Nez head to the east coast to the city of Miami Florida to help out a Cuban refugee climb the ladder in the dope game in Brian De Palma's 1983 crime/drama classic SCARFACE.   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com

You're all a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you want to be. You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers. I say that's the bad guy. So? What that make you?

Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide. I lie. Me. I don't have that problem. I always tell the truth, even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy.

Go on. The last time you're going to see a bad guy like this again. Let me tell you. Go on. Everybody to another episode of THR presents stream fiends. I'm your host Brian. With me as always is my brother, Nez. What's up, man?

I'm good, I'm good. Oh, man. I'm trying to watch him. I guess I did crank in. a few new movies. One you guys did on the regular show. Studio 66. Oh, how'd you like it?

That was awesome. That was hell of good. I wasn't expecting much. When you guys did your review, I stopped right before you guys got the spoilers, so I didn't know what was going on after that. But I was surprised me, not knowing pretty much what it was. I enjoyed it. thought it was cool. I mean, was acting the greatest? No, but they were having a good time, man. They made a horror movie.

And I did like the song that they were working on. Hopefully they released that at some point. Like a 45 minutes song. I don't want 45 minutes of it, but I wanted, though. That was pretty here. That was a different sound for the foo fighters. If you guys are food fighters, fans, a lot more harder. There was some blast beats and everything in that. it was like just more of a metal grungy sound um which i i loved but i thought it was an awesome also checked out the cursed slow but i i liked it i liked what was happening in it

and then i checked out are you guys doing x or uh we're going to we haven't done it yet okay well then i'll just leave it at that i'll be a part of that i'll be a part of that when i watch that too. All right, cool. So, but, um, yeah, let everyone know, uh, where we're at. I don't remember. Uh, we are doing tonight, 1983 Scarface. You first spotted in his eyes, the ambition, then you see it in his walk, the power. And you hear it in his voice, the passion with the right woman, I could go right to the Scarface. Cuccino is Scarface. He loved the American dream with a vengeance.

Rated R. starts Friday, December 9th, at theaters everywhere. Classic crime drama. I'm pretty sure everybody's seen this movie, but I'll read Google's lengthy synopsis. after getting a green card in exchange for assassinating a Cuban government official, Tony Montana stakes a claim on the drug trade in Miami, viciously murdering anyone who stands in his way. Tony eventually becomes the biggest drug lord in the state,

controlling nearly all the cocaine that comes through Miami, but increases pressure from the police. Wars with Cuban drug cartels and his own drug. drug-filled paranoia served to fuel the flames of his eventual downfall. All right, IMDV. In 1980, Miami, determined Cuban immigrant takes over the drug cartel and succumbs to greed, short and sweet. This, of course, is directed by Brian De Palma, screenplay by Oliver Stone, stars Al Pacino, Michelle Pfeiffer, Stephen Bauer, Mary Elizabeth Master Antonio, Robert Loja,

Miriam Cologne, F. Mary Abraham, Paul Sheener, Harris Eulen, my boy Chi Chi Chi Gittiero, Angel Salazar, and a bunch of other people. Nes, I'm sure you've seen this movie a hundred times, but when was the first time you've seen it? I actually saw this, that weekend it came out. Nice. So I'm the old guy of the two of us. Speaking of Scarface, we did a live show in Tulsa.

I don't know if you listened to that episode yet, but someone brought up Scarface. And I asked, I said, to everybody that was in the room that was watching us, I said, did anyone see Scarface when this came out? nobody said nothing everybody was quiet I was like damn that really made me feel old but yes I saw this when it came out

and I believe it was on a Sunday my brother my cousin went and seen it and he came and told me he's like dude you got to see this movie it's this it's that and I knew who Al Pacino was so I was like

all right cool let's go see it so we went and seen it had no idea it was going to be just about three hours. So I was like, all right, let's just check this out. Oh, man, I was blown away. I really didn't understand

some of the drug business that was happening because that was big time shit. I mean, the little pot dealers and all that were running around our neighborhood. That was about it. If there was Coke and anything else, pills, it wasn't like out of control yet.

But one of my friends' mom said she had seen this film because she loves Al Pacino. And she said this just glorified the drug, the drug game and everything. Did it? Yeah, I guess. Because after the, a lot of people, I mean, I think it was on one of the many DVD releases. There was a little documentary on what this movie meant to a lot of people. And a lot of emcees out there in the hip-hop game was like, yeah, man. None of them saw it in the theater.

They all saw once they hit VHS or cable or whatever, but they built all over that on how everybody wanted to be Tony Montana and just have the world was his. The world is yours. And they wanted that persona for their image and everything, which everybody was doing it so it wasn't like nobody was copying anyone. But the film itself to me, I didn't realize it was going to be at the time in 83. I didn't realize it was going to be what it is since it came out.

Because the film just, it actually didn't do that good in the box office. I mean, people wouldn't seen it, but that was about it like it came and went. It was once it hit VHS and cable is when it took off is when everybody's seen it. And that's when everyone was just, oh, my God, this movie's awesome. I'm like, where you guys been? This movie's been out for hell long. But I loved everybody in this film. Mani, Stephen Bauer.

He was my favorite character in it. I liked him, man. That was a homeboy, man. He was down for him. He was down for Tony no matter what. What I loved about Tony was, is how we were, not cocaine drug lords, but we had that rule. Everybody in the crew left each, everyone's sisters alone. It was, that was just a rule that we all stood by.

I mean, leave my sisters alone. Leave my sisters alone. I didn't have any sisters. I didn't have to say that. But I, to this day, I mean, I remember that. I mean, there was one of my friends that did like his sister, but he was straight up. He was like, come on, man, that's my sister. I mean, all you guys leave her alone.

were we talking on the side yeah we were but that was it nothing nothing never happened I mean actually like a few years ago I did I told her one time she was like what and I told my buddy too because he was like I thought you guys were going to go out the motherfucker you told everybody to leave your sister alone so but that was that was something we kind of took away from this film but I mean everybody in it was amazing uh Robert I say his last name Lodier Lager Lager Lager. He's awesome and everything he's been in. I loved him in the toy.

If you guys played the video game, the P.S2 game or the PSP. Love that game. He did he narrated some of it. The game was cool because you all seen this film. I mean, how it ends. When he dies at the end, spoiler alert, he survived that somehow. Don't ask me how. survived it and that's where the game started

you know how he survived cocaine kept it cocane's a hell of a drug kept his heart going my son played the game he didn't know what it was he was like what is this because he was playing my PSP

and I had it in it so he just played it he played that and he played the warriors did had no idea they were movies yeah if he was playing when he I was going to say if anybody hadn't played the game it's very much in the vein of like grand theft where you got to go do missions and stuff like that.

It was like he had finished Scarface and he was like, yeah, I finished that game. I was like, what game? Because that game that's in your PSP, I opened it and went, you finished this? He went, yeah, it wasn't that hard. I was like, damn. And then I said, I said, did you know, do you know this is a movie? He was like, what? I was like, he was like, no.

I said, well, all right, I'll show you the end because I didn't think he was little enough to sit through the whole thing. dug out the DVD and I showed him the end. I said, remember where the movie where the game began? He said, this is where, this is what happened to him. He was like, dang, he took all those bullets. How was he still alive? I just said drugs. I don't know.

But yeah, this movie was awesome. I mean, I thought everybody in it was good. Michelle Pfeiffer. I was already in love with her since Greece, too. I want to say that I want to say this was one of her earlier films I know it was right after Greece Greece too but

I mean this this whole film is awesome seen it millions and millions saw the one to no we actually we sat through it twice we watched it I can't remember the second movie I want to say it was a Charles Bronson movie but then

we stuck around and watched Scarface again another these three six seven seven almost 10 hours in there. I don't know how long. For long we were in there. These are the days where they didn't come in and clear out the theater.

They just, you could sit there all day if you wanted to. Yeah, this movie was awesome because I remember going to school that Monday. It's a dude, I just saw this movie. It was awesome. Nobody heard of it.

And actually, again, no one really saw it until I hit VHS and cable and everything. But is this my favorite Brian De Palma film? No. I mean, I know a lot of people don't even know who Brian De Palma was. Probably didn't even see any of his other films other than this one. But if I had to pick one, I would say dress to kill was my favorite one that he had done.

Plus he had done Kerry and blow out. And then I did like that one. I did Mission Impossible. I thought that one was good. The first one, that one he did with Nicholas Cage. Snake Ice. Okay. I liked that one.

Oliver Stone, I mean, platoon and everything else he has done. But this movie is amazing. I mean, did you just have, it's streaming on Peacock. Did you also have the ads?

Yeah, we went into an ad, like it had to been 10 minutes into the movie. But it was, it was a quick, like 10 second ad, though. I'd do, if it's going to be an ad, let it be,

one of those. I was like, oh my God. It was killing me. I'd stop this and went and got my Blu-ray and threw it in. I was like, I actually looked at it. Dude,

there was hell of ads in that one. Because this is, it was probably, it's two hours and 50 minutes from opening credits to the end credits. But then you add those however many seconds, uh, ads. I was like,

uh, I mean, I thought we paid for the, the no ads, but I don't know, I don't know the deals with them. I know in all the regular, the peacock stuff, there's nothing, but. Yeah. When did you first see this one? Oh, I was probably way too young to even, should have been watching it, which,

this was one of the many, many movies my dad introduced me to, because he, he had, I think he had seen it in the theater. And when it eventually came out on cable, he was like oh you gotta watch this you gotta you're gonna like it because you know he was saying all the quotes from the movies and i was just looking at like what the hell are you talking about and when i when i seen this movie blew my mind completely and as i got older this this movie just became more and more of a cult classic iconic film you mentioned all you know all the all the rappers were talking about it you know there was you neither had like t-shirts posters. Matter of fact, I had the big ass king-sized scar face blanket that I actually

got at the Oakland Swamp Meet last time I was in Oakland years ago. And yeah, it just the cast, I think, is phenomenal. This movie is completely quotable. You know, I said one of my favorite lines earlier,

you know, you know, Chi Chi, get the Yale, you know. Nobody knew what I was talking about, but I would, you know, just be saying. stuff like that. And Cortis had to play the game, big fan of the movie. So I had to get the game because that was the time when every movie was getting the video game.

And this has to be for me personally, as far as Al Pacino, this has to be the most iconic film to me. Because every time I think Al Pacino, I think Scarface. This wasn't the first thing I've seen Michelle Pfeiffer. And I think I've seen some movie she did. Lady Hawk. Yeah. I think that was the first one I've seen. And then I seen this one, which I think that one came out after Scarface.

Love Robert Loja. Stephen Bauer, everybody I thought was fantastic in it. F. Murray, Abraham. He played his role perfectly because I was waiting for him to get it when you first get introduced to him. I'm like, this guy needs to get out of here quickly. And I like the story of him

just coming from nothing. And, you know, I mean, it wasn't a drug game. I'm not glorifying that, but just the fact that he came from nothing and had the drive to make something out of himself. You know, I always liked that aspect of the story. But, you know, greed and jealousy kind of

and lots of cocaine. was his downfall because by the end he was doing so much cocaine technically he shouldn't have been alive because you don't stick your face in a mountain of cocaine and just inhale and you're okay but like I said that that's probably the explanation for him surviving into the video game was cocaine kept his heart going well I mean for me watching it the very first time I mean, I knew what Coke was, but I just never saw it like this much in a movie here, in a movie. I mean, there was Coke and movies here and there, but it was just like here and there, not mountains of it and just pounds and pounds of it that these guys were moving. Yeah, the mountain on the table that he had, that was his personal.

That wasn't what they were selling. Yeah, I was like, do you need that much on your desk? but hey, I mean, when you're the king of the dope game, I guess so. Well, what I loved in this, today, I mean, we've talked about this before, dealing with the movie posters. They don't have big paragraphs on them anymore like they did back in the day. Now it's just maybe a line or two or the tag from the movie. But this one, in the spring of 1980,

the port of Morel, I think that's it, Morrell Harbor was opened and thousands set sail for the United States. They came in search of an American dream. One of them found it on the sunwashed avenues of Miami. Wealth, power, and passion

beyond his wildest dreams. He is Tony Montana. The world will remember him by another name, Scarface. They actually never said Scarface in the film. They just asked him where he got a scar from you get that from eating pussy

how do you get this for me pussy man oh man I mean by one of my friends man he he is Mexican guy but he he he would just spat off lines left and right and then when his dad

got drunk is when it would really come out his dad was elephoid I remember his mom was always embarrassed and he always spit in these lines or he'd go and get the VHS tape. It was all old and messed up. When you watch VHS a billion times, you got those wavy track marks. You can tell what scenes were watched over and over.

I used to make me laugh. But the other thing that I loved in this was the intro in the very beginning when we see what had what's going on. In May 1980, Fidel Castro opened the harbor of Maracuba with the apparent intention of letting some of his people join their relatives in the United States. Within 72 hours, 3,000 U.S. boats were headed for Cuba. It soon became evident that Castro was forcing the boat owners to carry back with them, not only the relatives, but the dregs of his jails. Of the 125,000 refugees that landed in Florida, an estimated 25,000 had criminal records. So basically, I mean, they said this in the film.

Castro just shit on us and just let them send over all this. I mean, Cuba now is basically America. But yeah, I mean, that was the beginning of them in the 80s. I remember kind of hearing about this. I remember one of my teachers was talking about it. But then at that time, I didn't care. I was too busy skating and having fun. But I remember them mentioning that on how many refugees came over

and then saying that all the crime rate just like skyed in the Florida area. And I was like, damn, really? And then this movie came out. So I was like, day. I went, oh, okay, so that's what happened. And we're not going to run through the whole thing because you guys have seen this a billion times. but I mean just what happened a refugee, basically a guy from jail,

him and his buddies coming to America and they put him like in a concentration camp It is pretty much what it was Yeah, that's pretty much what it was Until they could figure out what to do with them It was just like For those of you that live in cities

In those homeless areas where they have all the tents and everything And they just kind of just threw it under a freeway Yeah, they were essentially they were interviewing them to see who they wanted to get a green card to let in the country. So that's what I was wondering. If they interviewed you and just didn't like you, did they just pack you up and send you back? I'd assume, I mean, you know,

I kind of wanted to see you a little bit more into that, but that would have been a whole different movie. Yeah. I'm if someone if somebody made a movie like that about this not the Scarface but what actually happened back in that day. So let us know I would like to watch that. But so when he was there, um, uh, one of the, uh, one of the many drug kingpins in Miami, they needed somebody, uh, rubbed out. Um, for the Tony and his crew to make a hit on, um, what was his name? Ravanga or whatever.

Ravanga. Yeah, that guy. I guess he was like one of the higher-ups in Fidel's army. Yeah, he was a general. Yeah, he did dirty. So they shipped him out. And then I guess he was torturing guys. So that's why Sosa wanted him dead.

So that's why they hired them to do it. So you guys kill this dude. Then we'll get a green card. I like this because I don't know how long they were all caged up in this little camp but everyone was just tired of it because it just a whole riot broke out everybody was burning up things and trying to get out of there for having that many extras to do this scene i mean i love um brian de pomo's camera work a lot of slow high up camera work especially that because the camera was just moving through the crowd is everybody's just ah hell all hell's breaking

loose in freedom town so i like that but how they were this dude, the Ravanga guy, was just walking along and then they just ended up getting them. I loved how they what were they saying in because they were all chanting something. I don't.

Leave out of day. I don't know. I don't know what that means. What are you guys could tell us? Um, but I thought that was cool how they were just kind of chasing them and then Tony got them. This is for whoever you fucking,

whatever he said. And I think at this time, of course, we don't heard fuck before many times from ever growing up. But to hear it that many times in a movie, especially in the early 80s, I was like, damn, man. I mean, especially Tony, like every other word was fuck, fuck, fucking. It's nothing to me now. But hearing it for that first time watching this movie, I remember looking at it, my cousin. Because he was like, you're all right with the language? I'm like, I don't care.

But I was just more shocked. So, but yeah, then they're getting their green card and then they, they got out and they were in Miami. And then they were washing dishes. And then this is when they met up with, what's his nuts? What hell was his name? Oh, um, uh, F Mary great Abraham. Abraham. Omar.

Omar, yeah. Yeah, when they met up with him and he, they, um, he was going to hire them just to, um, who were they going to, they were supposed to do something for. before they actually gave him the big job. It was, uh, you talking about when they met up with the, with the dudes in the, in the car,

yeah, in the parking lot. And they met up with Omar and them. Did, uh, they, they wanted them for another job. But then when Tony and then was getting all smart with them,

the, the driver was like, kind of whispered him like, hey, why don't we get these guys to do a pickup? Yeah. Yeah, with some Colombians.

And Tony was like, I don't, I don't fuck with no Colombians. Yeah, because then, because I, I can't remember what they was, they wanted them to do money and pick up something. And I, I always felt like it was a setup.

Yeah, I think it was something more smaller than, than what they were supposed to do. So, but then they were kind of like, I mean, Tony just didn't want, didn't want, he wanted, he wanted money. He was tired of washing dishes.

So that's when, when he got all, rough and tough with Omar. Omar was about to blast him. But that's when the driver leached over and stopped him. Say, hey, why don't we use these guys? So he went, ah, so. Big man, big man.

Big man. You want to make some really big bucks? So then that's what they told them. Yeah, they had to go to the Colombians and get that. And I looked it up real quick. The word fuck was used 207 times. And it says it works out to 1.21 F-bombs per minute. Oh, yeah, dude, it was just every other word.

Mainly with him. I don't really remember anyone else screaming it, but. Chi-Chi, Angel Salazar, and Pepe Sarah is Angel. Those were two, hey, those guys, because those, they have been. in a ton of things. Angel Salazar, I think my favorite thing that I've seen.

I don't know if you've seen that movie, The Wildlife with Chris Pan. Oh, yeah, yeah, he was one of Chris Pan's friends. He was one of the wrestler guys.

I liked him in that. Plus, he was in a ton of movies. But, so yeah, they posseed up, and then they went to the Colombians. And this was the scene that,

um, so I remember hearing it, summer they said that there was an unrated version of this film it turned it turned out to be bullshit but uh because they were saying this this film was close to a rate it got an X ratings but they had to go

and cut cut a lot of it out and they were saying this was one of the scenes that they had to cut because of the graphic violence and everything I mean it's pretty timid now with today's standards of rated R films but it was pretty brutal man

I mean that first time I saw it when they went It just the deal went sideways and then The Colombian dudes They were gonna Kill them Yeah, I always felt it was a setup I mean who who brings a mini chainsaw with them Yeah, so I mean

It was it was all Omar because that's I don't think Frank had anything to do with it at this point I mean Frank was his deal was later But I think Omar just didn't Didn't trust him. Tony, Tony's mouth. That's what I got.

And then, because when those Colombians did, when he ended up, um, cutting in the Angels head, I mean, I, I did like that,

but the camera just kind of zoomed in, but you saw the blood going out there. And then, the blood squirted all over Tony. And then they cut his leg off. And then this is when, um, Mani and Chi Chi come busting it.

After Mani was done, talking to some women. And actually he was done, he looked at the Cheeachie. He was like, you ready, man? Let's do it. Yeah, they charges in there. Well, they got closer and then they heard the chainsaw.

And that's when they just started blasting. I love the original soundtrack of this with the guns and everything. A real more higher pitch sounds of the guns. If you watch the 4K or the Blu-ray one, they redid all the gun blasts. I didn't like how they sound. They gave it more bass.

I noticed that with one of those first, I think it was a second go-around on DVD during one of the many anniversary editions. Because I remember I bought it and I was like, oh, cool, because there was more documentaries on it. I was the main reason I bought it. But then when I was watching, I was like, hey, man, the guns sound funny,

especially at the end with that whole that whole big battle I didn't like it you can go on YouTube you guys have no idea what I'm talking about and there's both versions the original sounding and how it sounds now but yeah that one chick that was on the bed was weird

but she was strapped she was ready so yeah when they busted it and started killing everyone you can clearly see that when that guy with the chainsaw when he uh after he got shot and then he kind of basically gunned his way out of it

went into that next room and when he cut through the window when he fell out when he falls you're supposed to be falling flat on the on the cement but you can clearly see there was something there

some kind of mat because you see it kind of go up when he hits but that would have knocked him out right there he fell on his head yeah I was like why did you leave out the window that way well I think it was more of the force

because when he got that chainsaw just went crashing through the glass through the glass and lost balance and went out head first. But this was ruthless. Yeah, when Tony, I did like that part. When they came busing in, Tony rushed that dude, that other guy that was in there was trying to shoot him. And then he took his gun and just j-j-j-j-blasted him.

And then they ran out. Yeah, Chi-Chi-Gri-Yo, you know. And then they ran outside. But, I mean, that's how hardcore Tony was at this point. Because... A street full of witnesses. He walked out and just blasted that fool right in the head. Yeah, he walked over.

He was like, you're dead. He just gutting him down a little fast. That was it. And I like to believe that those weren't extras in the crowd. They were just there and they filmed the scene because some of them people truly look like they were trying to figure out what just happened. Yeah, they probably told him, hey, we're filming a movie, so just sit here. it looked like a retirement home because it looked like it was a bunch of old people

yeah so yeah they blasted that fool they jumped in a car and boned out but yeah then that's when that this is one word they were introduced to Frank Lopez

and found out that he was a he was a king shit but he was at least cool man because he was like he said hey man I'm sorry about your friend he goes if if people just did did business right. I mean, none of these

mishaps would happen. And that's true. I mean, the little bit of the game that I knew from friends and everything, they were all like, they did say that. They were like if you do business right, everyone gets paid and everyone goes home. When someone tries to get greedy and shit goes sideways and start losing soldiers, but I

never got in any of that shit. And I had opportunities to, but I'm not. I'm, like now I'm good. I wasn't scared of the cops and everything. I was scared of my mom. She would beat that ass. Anything we did. I mean,

the beatings we got from my mom. It was for me fucking up. It wasn't she. My mom didn't just beat us to beat us. It was we were fucking up. We weren't doing right. We were cutting school or doing whatever and we got caught. Yeah, she wore that ass out.

Or if we smart mouth. But my dad never did that shit. My mom would come and beat the hell out of us. And then my dad would come in and lecture us. Well, was it worth it? I'm like, oh, I'm laying there all beat up. Hot wheel tracks was her favorite thing to grab. And at times, it was anything she can get her hands on.

I tell my kids, the grandma, you guys know ain't who raised us. It never is. It really never is. She goes, I don't know. I'm like, I don't know who that is. but I mean Yeah I love my mom and dad I mean they they raised us the best they could

But Yeah I was scared of them I just My mom really my dad just I don't think he I don't remember him ever raising his hand to us It was just my mom But anyway

So yeah I just didn't I just didn't get into any of that shit But I mean yeah Frank was right man Just do the business right And everything's all good But then everything just fucking and went sideways. And yeah,

Omar was right there. Just like, you could see a tent with him that it was like, he just did not like Tony at all. They called him a peasant. Yeah. I ought to kill him too.

Yeah, and this is when we see the very young and beautiful Michelle Pfeiffer. What's the name it? Vila or Vira or whatever? Elvira. Tony was in love the second he's seen her

because I like how all of a sudden you don't hear because you hear many in the background talking about his bullet wound and how he took it like a champ and all of a sudden that everything just kind of fades out and all he can see is her. Yeah, the music changed everything. He didn't hear nothing.

You just saw her and him staring at her. But yeah, I mean Here on it was just them Doing the club life Frank talking to Tony Omar just not liking him at all Because that at that one scene When I was sitting in the club

When he was out there Tony was dancing with a villa He was asking Do you trust him? He's a fucking peasant And But Frank was like He's he's good

Frank was using him Just for like for muscle at this point Yeah because he said He may be a peasant but he's the type of guy that'll break his back for you. Yeah. He was loyal.

He did what he was supposed to do. Because, I mean, once everything got going and then him trying to get Michelle Pfeiffer, him hanging out with Mani. I mean, them doing more business because they were just making money and everything. But then when Omar and Tony went to

Bolivia to me with Sosa, that guy, Paul Schenari, I think that was his name, Alejandro Sosa, when they went to me and he was like big, big, big time. He had like the whole country. Yeah, I like the way he said, Tony Montana, you know, just very, like, confident in the way he talked about everything. Yeah, he was straight up. And he was all about business, too.

He didn't He wasn't small time This guy was big time He didn't want to He didn't fuck around With those little $5 bags Or anything like that Man it

He had the whole plant And everything Pretty sure His own little army As well as Um Buying off the law And everything in that area

Because it seemed like His little Mansion compound Was out in the jungles Somewhere So They went down there To do a deal

for some crazy amount of money but it was Omar and Tony and then Tony kind of just started to butt in because it was saying that well you should give it a give us this amount because we're doing all the work

and then Omar was like to shut the fuck up man no say anything and then Tony was like fuck you and then Sosa was looking at him like well he was looking at Omar and Tony and he was like, hmm, he knew Omar was just, Omar was just supposed to go there,

make this deal for however much, and then get out of there. Tony, Tony seen the bigger picture. Yeah, he saw that. That's why Sosa was looking at him and then that's what he goes,

why can't make this deal without talking to Frank? And that's the social. Well, here, go get on my plane. You can be back. Go talk to Frank. Come back tomorrow. And they were about to leave.

Hey, why don't you just leave your buddy here? And Omar was like, well, I think he'd want to, Frank would want to see him. He goes, no,

no, maybe keep him here. Maybe he can tell me how to run my business. He's like, yeah, man, just you go back,

talk to Frank. Just tell him, I'm keeping him on ice. So I was like, damn, but yeah, this is when we find. What's his name was in this?

Mark, Margolis, Shadow. He was, um, what the hell is his name? And, um,

breaking bad yeah Salamanca him the guy in the wheelchair with the with the bell he was bad ed I liked him and um better call Saul

when before he had the stroke in everything but yeah he was a much younger version of him he was um uh Sosa's muscle I guess

and then so him and that other dude, a dude with the sunglasses. We see later at the end. Yeah. Because we kind of see him lingering around in the background because then when Social was talking to Tony, that's when he told him he goes, hey, yeah, man, your friend Omar's a rat.

He was an informant for the FBI. Oh, no, for the, I think it was over the New York Police Department or something like that. So they were like, well, that's when that helicopter came flying over. And then they gave him binoculars and he looked up at him. that dude with sunglasses was the one that was holding Omar out. He was all beat the shit and had a rope around him. They threw him out of the helicopter and on him. And that's what Tony didn't even flinch.

He just looked at Sousin. He goes, yeah. He goes, well, if he's a rat, how come, how do I know you're not? He basically told him, fuck you to his face. And he goes, I never liked that guy. And he goes, for all I know, he had my friend Angel killed. So, I mean, that, that's the. the business man you

even small timers man if they're ruthless you you don't cross nobody don't mess the bottom line to me I say I live by this today don't mess with anybody's money no matter what don't mess with no one's money and I'm looking it up right here

the guy with the sunglasses he goes by just the skull I guess he's like an enforcer yeah I mean he never said any lines but I see before he threw Omar out

He was spouting off something We never heard it But So yeah that's when Tony ended up going back to see Frank And that's when Frank was going off And what the fuck? Why are you making this deal?

You were supposed to just go down there And get this and then come back And then Tony was like, don't worry about it, man He goes you're going to make this much money With this deal And then Frank, that's when Frank started to look at him weird And then that's when Michelle Fiker

Fifer, that's when he was realizing he was trying to get her, get her. So this by the time, he just took her? No, not yet. He didn't take her until Frank was dead. Because he, he went up and asked her, like, hey, when they were sitting by the pool, basically, come on, man, fuck him.

He's an old man, I'm young. Come with me, I'm going to be bigger than him. But she was like, nah, we're talking about it. But she told him, I don't fuck with the help. when he went to pick her up. I don't care what anyone says. That cat, like he was rolling around to convertle with the tiger or leopard stuff in the interior. That was the upgraded from earlier in the movie because it didn't have the interior.

It's what happens when Tony got a little bit of money at the leopard interior. I don't care what anyone says. I mean, I've never like that. I mean, it just, it looked tacky to me. That shag and all that shit. My friends were, their uncles and dads were lowriders. They had all that shag and the dingle balls and the leopard stuff. And the awesome cars.

I just didn't like the insights of fun. I don't know. That was just me. I was more muscle car type of guy. But, yeah, so, yeah, Frank, that's what Frank was like. God, man, we got a deal with this fool. And that's when Tony was at the club. Oh, no, he met up with that cop.

What was a cop's name? I think it was Bernstein. Was that him? I think it was. Yeah, Bernstein. He was the cop that was dealing with Frank. And then that's when, because he had tried to, when he was talking to Tony at there,

he was telling him, yeah, man. He goes, basically he told him, look, I got your number. Frank pays me this much. You need to start paying me this, too. Is he drinking milk in the club? I think so. I assume he might have had something in it, but I don't know.

Yeah, he was dirty. He was basically telling him, look, man, Frank's paying me. Now you got to pay me too. Yeah, he's like, and this will benefit you because some rival crew moves in. I'll give you the heads up. Yeah, I don't you just give you. give me two first playing tickets like first class tickets or wherever and Tony was just like whatever and that's when those other dude two guys were sitting there with the guns

one of those dudes was in uh blood in blood out that was um was one of the dudes that Popeye tried to kill um it wasn't the one that got killed in the church was it yeah it was him oh Carlos yeah Carlos. No, that was Carlos's brother. It was that dude. Oh. I can't remember his name, but, um... Still smell like Charliso Pig. Yeah, that's another movie. That's another time. But, uh, video, yeah, that was him. He didn't say anything. He was just sitting there

with the little Mac Tens. I guess, uh, there was no metal detectors in those days at the club. So, yeah, they, he was just sitting there and that's when those fools and that. whoever that Zippy the pinhead guy came out dancing around to Frank Sinatra. And they just started gunning up Tony. I don't know how big that club is or where exactly these guys were sitting. But they were terrible shots with those machine guns. He had two guys shooting machine guns and they couldn't hit one dude that was sitting in a booth. But they got that dude, that zip, that pinhead guy right at the right time.

Because when he went down, he was a big fat dude. Tony just jumped behind him. he just popped up on top of him and started blasting at those fools but yeah once he blasted all in that's when he got the fuck out of there he killed those two guys

and then he bailed luckily he had that parking spot right in the front jumped in his little Porsche took off but that's when he went back and hooked up with Mani and that other big dude and told him

is that the Porsche got all bulletproof yeah with the swamp lights he was like okay so I get lost in the swamp yeah he uh

they win they went they met up they said look man hey you need to call right at three in the morning or whatever and say that they got away we fucked up he got away because that's all you got to say when he called Frank

and that's when Tony and Mani and Chi Chi walked into that place and Frank and Bernstein was sitting there and that the auto Lopez Motors or whatever it was and they told them like

basically yeah you you tried to get these motherfuckers. This is not what he said basically but you tried to kill me now I'm here to fucking kill you but then Frank was like no man he goes it wasn't me it was probably the the Diaz brothers

yeah the Diaz brothers I like that line earlier when they were talking about it when they were saying the Diaz brothers and whoever else and Tony was like fuck the Diaz brothers fuck them all bury those cockaroaches so they were like

yeah it's probably the Diaz brothers and he was like nope do we ever meet the Diaz brothers? I don't think so I could be a whole other movie yeah we just heard of them we don't know nothing about it I mean we didn't really see any of the other gang other drug cartels but Frank

Frank and Sosa that was it I mean it was obviously other ones in the game but so that's what he's sitting there pointing the gun at him or Tony took one to the shoulder because he had his arm in a sling and that's when he was

sitting there talking to fragrant what did he say oh you know what a hossa is it's a pig that don't fly straight yeah because earlier in the movie uh

it's what uh Frank said to him he was telling him what a hasa was. That's when Frank was explaining the game to him. And that's when Omar was getting all jealous. Because, I mean, Tony was like he said and what Frank said, this guy will do anything for you. He was loyal.

Because Tony would say, he goes, look, man, he goes, I made what I made on the side. He goes, but I never turned on you. You go, I stayed loyal to you. But I think it was more of not so much the Sosa deal that Tony made without Frank's say so it was

Tony trying to steal a villa or Alvira whatever her name was. I think it was a combination. But I think it was more of that because when he was about to kill him Frank like fell to his knees was like no he was like here

Avila you can have her. He goes look I'll just I'll just get out of here and you'll never see me again and Tony started crying and Tony just held that gun and was like I won't I won't kill you, Frank. He was like, oh, thank you.

Man, he shoot that piece of shit. That was awesome. Man, he did not hesitate. He just walked him, pumped a few into Frank. And Bernstein was hardcore. He didn't give a fuck. He didn't even flinch. He was just sitting there.

Well, he fucked up. I told him, we can use you. And then Tony was just sitting in a hand pull that gun on you, on him. you know what I don't know oh he when he pointed the gun at him and he goes hey man well think about what you're doing he's like just don't do it and him totally was like why don't you get those uh why don't you wire yourself two uh first class tickets to your resurrection and then popped in a couple into his stomach i like when he put down like wow wait a minute

you can't kill him cop whoever said you was one and just blasted him. And then that other dude, that big dude that was standing in Ernie. And they were all about to leave. Sweating his ass. Hell yeah, he was. He was just standing there. And they were about to leave and Chi-C-C-W-no.

No, they went well. What about Ernie? I like this part because Tony just looked at him. The music was all just sinister. Then it stopped. They went, you want a job? Ernie. Okay, Tony.

Yeah. You give me a call to me. tomorrow we'll talk. Hey, Tony, thank you. Hey, man, all right, you got a job. He was he he was hella scared to sweat and he took that

big swing of the JD. But he was loyal to me. He made it all the way to the end of the movie. Yeah. Before he got blasted, but I liked this part because after he killed Frank, that's when he went to a villa, a Virov, whatever the

fucking name is. Walk her up and see, I get your things. Come on. And she, was she a gold digger? Was she just there for the money and the Coke? Yes. Because she just went right with him. Didn't even think about it. Because, I mean, she probably assumed if he's coming to get her out of her bedroom,

telling her to pack her things, then it's probably not a good thing for Frank. Frank's probably not around anymore. We skipped the scene when, uh, when we meet Gina and, uh, Tony's mom. Oh, Gina. Uh, Mary Elizabeth, Master and Tony. Yeah, they, um, Gina and their mom came over I probably all at the same time, but never saw Tony for however long

because Gina was happy to see him. But then the mom was like, nope, because she knew what Tony was about. Antonio. She knew what he was about. She knew what he was doing in Cuba and she knew that he was still doing dirt here in America. She was like, nope, where have you been?

You show up with your fancy clothes and your money. And she was straight up, man. This was a hardworking woman. She probably had like two, three jobs and still holding it down. You know, like, I work for my. She didn't want them to do. I don't want your money. I work for my money.

Right there, that was cool. Because that reminded me of my friend's grandma or my friend. No, it was a grandma. Yeah, she was. I can't remember her name. She was always cooking and feeding me saying I was too skinny and I needed to eat. But there was always somebody cooking. She was always cooking something when I went to that house.

That's what I loved about it. Rest in peace. She fed me every time I went in that house. And she worked like all day and then would come home and start cooking. She always reminded me of her because she would say that. Because she would yell at my friends brothers because they were out there. Why don't you guys out there working jobs? And she goes, she even, what this lady said to Tony, you're making all the hardworking Cubans look bad.

And that's what my friend's grandma, she used to say to her brothers and uncles and all that. They were out there doing whatever they were doing. You're making all those hard Mexicans, their work hard to look bad without their, I would just sit there. I mean, all right. It's none of my business. But, I mean, but that was true, though. They came to this country and just worked their ass off. I know some people don't think so, but they do.

They worked their ass off And her grandma was One of those ones that just worked her ass off She used to yell at me too You better work you better go to school You better get a job She passed before I started working for my job now She'd probably be proud of me

Holding this job for almost 30 years Because she did a lot And she was a tough woman too She was like oh man She was hardcore She was show us pictures of how she was back in the day. She was all loked out.

I was out there. I had my blade just in case. I was like, damn, grandma, I'm scared of you. Abuelo, abuela, I'm scared of you. But she was hardcore. Yeah, she reminded me a Tony's mom because she was straight up to him. Like, look, get out of my house. Leave Gina alone.

And then I said Tony goes here. Just here's some money. Just give her some whenever. And then Gina was like, yeah, ever since uh uh, uh, Papa die or took all.

He was like, fuck that. We never had one. But at that was, at least he was straight up about it. It was like, look, we,

we never had a father. So just don't even fucking worry about him. And that's when man he saw. And he was like, oh my God. She's beautiful. Like, he's not for you.

Yeah, he kind of had a similar moment where all, everything else just faded out. Yeah. Except for Gina. He was straight up. Like, leave her alone. She's not for you.

I heard that many times and I listened. I never, that was one of the rules that we had to live by. Some of my other homies, they didn't listen. But I was loyal to all these motherfuckers, even though they were. I didn't have any sisters.

I didn't have to worry about it. Yeah, so after he, this is. I love this whole montage from here When we see Tony's empire grow after he got married Had his tigers had a big old house and him and Sosa were just Making tons and tons of money because that when they were Taking all that money into the bank and those big giant army duffel bags

I mean it was just straight cash homey that's that's all it was and even that banker guy was like what the fuck man Because they were just bringing it just just just bags and bags of money. I mean, it got to that one point where he's like, I can't take any more in your money. There's just not enough. I think the banker wasn't stupid. He knew where that money was coming from.

But he was like, yeah, it was probably going to be too much too risky for him because then I think if FBI or whatever stepped in. But I'm sure they knew about all the money going in and out of that bank. Yeah, you got to think about it. That's a lot of money to where the bank is like, no, stop bringing money.

Yeah, that was like that wasn't one movie with Johnny Depp when they were just, they had slow money. Yeah, they had just rooms and rooms of it and didn't even know how much they had. Talking about they had to buy another house to store all the money. Yeah. Or, um, what was that other movie with Tom Cruise? American something.

Oh, Remember, he was running for the country. He was the pilot or whatever. Yeah. And he had so much money. He had to bury it in his backyard. Do we all want hell of money? Yeah, we do.

But not this kind of money. I mean, I wouldn't want to live. I mean, we still look over your back no matter what. But I think you've got to look over your back more than months when you're dealing with that much money. Yeah, especially. you got so much money, you, you got nowhere to put it. Yeah. Yeah, when the bank says, nah, man, because the bank, the banker, he went to his house.

Look, man, I can't. I can't take any more your money. And even told him, look, man, I'll build you another bank. And it's like, I can't. Here you go. It's too much for him. And, yeah, that was a, I don't know how much money he had, but enough for a bank had to tell you, I can't take anymore. So he probably had hell of bank money in his house.

And I'm sure it was spread out other places. And I don't know about Sosa. I think he had his shit was probably wired all over that, all over the country. All over down there, probably in America and other parts of the world. Because I'm sure he had way more money than Tony. So, but I liked that whole little montage of them doing that. And then, oh, this is when Tony got busted for tax evasion.

Yeah, no, no, he was, no, man, he got, they were, um, were they counting dollars. Is that what they were doing when the, when the cops had them when they were sitting in that room? Yeah, but I think, I think the only thing they could, they could charge them with was tax evasion, though. Oh, okay. All right. and that was they did that yeah because he got busted for that

because he was telling him I'm struggling to look man I'll be out tomorrow so he wasn't worried about but yeah that's when they said tax evasion and all that told him that look you're gonna have to do some time

because there's no way out of this I mean that that's another thing I know every dollar you make you want shit I do too man I see how much Uncle Sam takes from me I'm like, damn. Like, I'm a bust my ass, man.

You're going to take a ton of it. Hell, yeah, they do. The more you make, the more they take. Yeah. Um, I don't know how it is in the dope game. But I've always said this before. Uncle Sam gets his.

But he, he had a bunch of businesses. He had, uh, Gina's thing that he opened for her, her little boutique. He had, um,

Montana. Montana and Corp. Or incorporated. Yeah, something. Whatever he was running, he probably just wasn't paying taxes. I mean, that's the only way. I mean, they got him for all the shit that he had. I mean.

That's always wondering why he never go to Sosa. Because you know that guy has his business in order. Yeah, because he's big time. He has to. Other than he's probably paying people off. He probably, look, I got to get my, I got to have my peas and cues and and everything lined up just in case they try to. come at me.

You gotta have those hire these other people to deal with everything. Like look, I'll pay you this much, but you gotta make sure my shit is wired tight. I don't want no one coming around trying to take it from me. Again, don't mess with anyone's money. So that's when Tony was like, fuck man, because he didn't

want to go to jail. And that's when Sosa, I'm like, look, man, you want you to come down here and meet with some of my people and then he went down there and they played. some videos for him. Who was that, dude? I can't remember. Because he was supposed to,

he was supposed to make some speech about, was it drug dealers in the, in the countries? Because they mentioned Sosa and some other guys. Because Sosa told Tony is that, look, me and some of my associates want this guy to be taken care of. Yeah, he was some kind of politician.

Yeah. So he was like, Like, look, just do what you've got to do. And then come back and we'll deal with your situation. Because I think Tony would have done that. They probably would have got him out of jail. So that's when Tony went up there. He told him, yeah, I wish Shadow's name and Breaking Bad.

Salamanka. Yeah, you take Salamanka. That's all I see him. You take Salamanka with you. So they went up. They went back to New York. And if you're going to play. plant a bomb on something, don't put it out in the open.

Because that was like, all you can do is look under the car and see it. It wasn't even hid or anything. But he stuck that little plastic explosive on that car and it was supposed to blow up because when they were sitting out there waiting for him, they saw him come out and get in his car, but then he whipped it around and he picked up his wife and his kids. Because that's what Tony was saying. It was like, look, man, no, no women, no kids.

We just can kill him and that was it. But when they saw that happen, they were like, fuck. And Tony was like, this is bad, this is bad, we can't do this. And Shadow Salamanca was like, shut up, man, just stay close to him. They were supposed to stay up to them however many meters. I can't remember. That's still pretty close. And that's plastic explosives.

I'm sure that blast would have probably got them too. that some movie that little controller thing didn't have that that long of a range but yeah they were following I loved it how they were like come on man let's do it let's do it and Tony was like this is bad this is bad

he goes what do you think you make me kill a woman and two kids fuck that and that you die motherfucker and he just blasted him just fucking blood went all over the window and that Chi Chi Chi and I think it was Ernie that was in the back.

They were like, fuck. No, yeah. Manny wasn't with him. Because they were like, fuck. And he goes, how are you like that? Huh? And he goes, you fuck. Look at you now.

I told you don't fuck with me. And that's when Tony called the house. And that's when they were saying. He was trying to find Manning. We don't know where he is. And they said, oh, your mom called.

Gina's missing. And he was like, what? And that's what? Where's Mani? I don't know. He's gone, too. Wait until I get back there. I'm fucking kicking ass all over the place.

He got back there to his mansion. And that's what a Sosa called. Hey, Sosa's on the phone. So he said, hey, what's up? And he goes, hey, man. He goes, what happened? Ah, I had to, he was talking about Shadow. I had to cancel his contract.

Well, our friend made that speech that he wasn't supposed to make. And Tony goes, ah, well, we'll just get him next time. And he told him, I ain't going to be it next time. He goes, they found what was under the car. Now he has security up the fucking ass. And Tony goes, hey, that's all right. And Sosa was straight. Look, I told you a long time ago, don't fuck with me or don't fuck me.

Because, yeah, he said that to him too. But that first time Sosa met him when they were talking. And he said, look, I'm going to tell you this one time. Don't, don't fuck me. and whatever you do I mean that again not just in the dope game period depending on you deal with

there's just so certain people or certain friends or your associates you just don't they warn you once don't fuck with me and now that was also another one he don't fuck with my money that's what he told him and uh well Tony had some kind of morals

he didn't want to kill women and he didn't want to kill kids I mean yeah so I can agree with that but yeah, and so, so was like, fuck that. He told him, well, you want to go to war? Fuck you. He got so mad, the phone fell all over the place. That's in there, like, fuck, man.

That's when he went to his mom's house and she was talking about it. She goes, I don't know where she is. She gets it from you. She goes, one day I got in the car and I followed him to this big house. And then it's when he was like, where? So she told him the address and they went.

And they were driving around and they found this big, huge mansion. Tony walked up to the door. looked in and manny came and opened the door and he was looking at him and it was all just no dialogue nothing just quiet he's standing there looking at manny and here came Gina walking out of the upstairs room out to the stairs and that look I love this scene because it was in slow motion he saw her and you just seen the rage in his eye then he looked at manny and gave him that snarl he just pulled out gun he just blast

did manny what did they think was going to happen because she later reveals that they got married and they were going to surprise tony let's say this scene didn't happen and they did well it was a surprise but yeah let's say it played out the way gina what he probably still would have killed him yeah this just would have happened later yeah this was going to happen no matter how you put it and what situation was he was going to kill her but i mean I mean, I think he was already so mad now with Sosa and everything and then just this surprising him. And he just, fuck it. He lost it and blasted his buddy, blasted his homie.

His brother, the one that was there from him from when he was nobody. Yeah, man, man, he should have known. No, he knows Tony. Yeah. He just opened that door. It was just kind of like everything was going to be okay. Yeah, he was just like, eh. All right, man, what's up?

Yeah, I mean, again, I love that scene because it was just slow motion. And the music they were playing in the background was all kind of nice and this and that. But then when Tony saw and then the music just changed like a sinister sound and he just, he pumped in two rounds. And then she was screaming, ah, you motherfucker. And that's when they came out. They grabbed Gina and they're like, come on. on Tony, we got to go, we got to go.

So they just threw him in the car and they took off. Yeah, because I think even though he was pissed, I think he realized maybe he went a little too far. Yeah, I think so. I mean, he was going to do what he was going to do. And I'm sure Gina knew that. But his boys were the ones that. They seemed to be the more shocked, if anything,

like what the fuck i mean especially like chichi i mean him he didn't find out probably until later but knowing that man he man he was there from from the beginning when you were small time and he many did everything he could for him i mean he was there for him saved his life this and that and because even at that point that one point in the film earlier when um tony was arguing with me And he was like, man, you don't listen to anybody. Because Manny wanted to kind of try to do something. He just didn't want to be, oh, he was happy with his position in the game. But he still wanted to do other things because he was, he was setting up meetings with other people.

And then Tony was like, nah, man, I'll do that. And Tony, what the man? He was like, this is my deal. What are you doing? And Tony was like, hey, man, you worry about this. I'll deal with that. And man, he was like, and you know what? You should listen to wife.

You are an asshole. So, because she was going off on him. Yeah, we didn't even talk about when he ended up telling her off because because she can't have kids and he basically told the whole restaurant. Yeah, he was faded. She can't fuck either. You can't have kids.

All she does is powder her nose. Yeah, he just lit her up. I think at this point she just had enough because she told them what? You want kids? How are you going to be alive? Are you even going to be alive by the time they go to school? And I mean, that's true. I mean, I like Manny though when he was telling her off.

He was like, Tony, why? I mean, they say it in movies and one of my friends, the uncle said he goes, you ain't never seen an old drug dealer, especially like guys like this. So, yeah, he, he lit into her. And then that's when he was getting ready to leave. And then he started fucking cussing out everybody in the restaurant. Because you need guys like me to point your fucking fingers and say, there's the bad guy.

That was awesome. I loved when he left the restaurant. Make way. Make way for the bad guy. That part was awesome. But yeah, once Tony got back to the house And they were like, oh man, what's happening? And then you see in the

Close Circuit TV, you notice that here come all these Sosa's guys. Do you think they came up from Columbia or did they just go into Miami in the hoods? They look, man, we need people. Here's some guns and we'll give you this much money. need to go help us kill the dude. I like to think Sosa's so big.

He already has a team stationed in Miami just for this. Yeah, because it happened really quick, man, within... It was all that one day as soon as he got back. Yeah. Because, yeah, it had to have been, like, hours. I'm sure the other dude with the sunglasses, he probably just jumped in a jet and flew up there. Yeah, skull, the skull.

Yeah, he probably, they probably had a, but yeah, like you said, they probably had a bunch of guys on standby up here. So they all came to a storming the house. And then that's when Gina came in. It was, ah, you don't want no one else touching me. And this part, even now when I watch it, I'm like, uh, what's happening here? But she was straight up because you want other men touching me. I just fuck me before it's too late.

But he kind of had a weird reaction because she's starting to like open up her robe and he's just he's looking. Yeah. But he's not saying stop. No. The other scene when she was in the club with that one dude and I can't remember his name.

And when he was sitting there watching her and she was on the dance floor. Oh, it was when. Bernstein was talking to Tony and Bernstein was rambling but then the music change and you just see Tony staring at his sister and that dude and that guy had his hand

on her ass and then Tony just fucking just jumped up and ran into the bat and she was in the bathroom in the stall with that dude coking up and then Tony just bust in grabs that guy that guy was a puss because he didn't even do nothing

he was like hey hey and we're doing nothing and Tony to get the fuck out of here. And that manny came in there. Tony just grabbed her. The fuck you're doing in here. Hand all over your ass in a toilet. She is going off.

She was like, wow, he's a nice guy. They just slapped her. Nice guys take you to the toilet. Yeah, that's what Mandy said to her. Because he was like,

oh, man, come on. And he picked her up. And she didn't want to go out. And it was like, nah, that's all right. And Tony just,

brother's out the fuck you looking at I was like damn he was hardcore oh that was that yeah this was the night when those guys shot at him but yeah when she was in his office and everything and yeah he just he got coked up before she came in that's when he had

that big huge pile earlier when he was talking right before he started talking to Sosa he dumped his little gold box made that big that big rail just snorted down I love how they

They never actually show it You see him dumping it up He just cut it chopped it up with his hand And then you see him Just drag his nose across the table I was like damn Yeah before she came in He had that big pile

And he just leaned over And stuck both nostrils in And took a breath Sobs covered in cocaine Yeah that would have killed him I don't know if I guess you gotta be Tony Montana to handle that. I'm sure your heart wouldn't be able to take it.

But yeah, after she was in, yeah, she came in with a gun. Yeah, fuck me, Tony, he started shooting at him.

She caught, he caught one in the leg from her. Because then she, he went, ah, he fell down. And then that's when that dude, uh,

that climbed up, um, oh, when all the, while they were upstairs, everyone just the whole fucking sosa guy, crew came piling in,

and, into the grounds and they were killing fools and then Skull blasted that one dude No that wasn't Ernie there was the The other dude one of the other big guys because he was like Tony get out of here with the glasses Yeah He walked up in and just blew his head off of the shotgun

It seemed like Tony didn't have a lot of guys Um No that one dude that was outside in Chi Chi that was it did Chee Chee wrong though yeah I mean come on he could at least

helped him out they could they could probably survived a little longer but yeah and that yeah when that one fool climbed up the rope

and just busted in and gunned up Gina and then Tony tackled him and then shot him and then he fell out over the balcony

into the water he took his gunned him up and that's when that one the fat guy was down like Tony they're all they're coming here get out of the water here and you just see everyone

all these fools coming out of the bushes running in when he ran over to his gun case and grabbed that um this was the M16 with a rocket launcher on the bottom he looked over and saw Gina and she was laying there and he was like

it's all right right come on you're okay okay and then you just hear a gun war going out in the lobby of the house and yeah Chi Chi Chi Chi was out Chi was holding his own man he was blasting every fool that came in through the door. So he took out a few guys and then he

ran up to the door. Tony, let me hear, let me in. And then he definitely did him dirty because then Chi Chi-chi got blasted in the back. And then I liked this line when I first heard it but then everybody says it and it just got played out.

Tony, I loved everything. You guys want to fuck with me. You're fucking with the best. Say hello to my little friend and just fucking because there was hell of fools outside of the doors that first that that first blast with the rocket launchers blew everybody ah everybody were falling out and i just loved that he just walked up to the door you go how you like that you want more boy just started gunning fools up and

as soon as he walked out of the thing and all those guys that were on the steps and he just gunning down both sides and i don't know how many people came in the house but there was hell of fools in the house all shooting at him. And everyone must have been bad shots because he actually only got hit once before he really got gunned up. Because he took one to the shoulder and it spun him and he fell. But he was lighting up those fools on the stairs and every guy that was coming in through the door, he was lighting him up.

And he pumped in a rocket and blew up the door. And I left out. I took you out the fucking hell. Come on. Come on. God do me! What do you think you're fucking with him, man? I told him about you fucking with him back.

You like that, huh? You fucking Marty Kahn. That was hell of it. You want to fuck you? You want to fucking leave me? I know he's like, you want to take me? You need a fucking army. You want to take me.

I love this camera work because when he's standing up there, hooting and hollering, we saw that skull crawled up that rope because he walked over the rope and then he crawled up there, and he just came walking and slow. Tony was still just blasting fools up. Talking hell of shit. And he goes, you know,

you fucking with me? Tony Montana, he fucked me, you fuck with the best. And then he just started gutting up more fools. And then they finally hit him. And then he had dropped his gun. It's when that cocaine strength kicked in.

He's like, I'm still standing. I'll take your fucking bullets. And he was just fucking going off. And that skull walked up behind him. Did he pump both? Both barrels in them? Yeah, I think it was a double barrel.

Yeah. Yeah, because it blew out of spine. And then, yeah, when he fell off into that, because when he falls into that little pool, I mean, awesome stunt. That was a stunt, man. That wasn't a dummy they threw off. And I don't know how deep that little pool was,

but he did a belly flop into it. Because I loved how it, because when he hit all the water spilled out, but it was all full of blood. and he was floating there. And I love the camera work because the camera just starts to pull back and you see bodies laying everywhere,

smoking everything, and skulls just slowly walking down the stairs. That was pretty much a movie. When we get a shot of the statue, I used to have a mini version of that statue, but I broke it. It lit up and everything. So he took double shot,

double barrel to the back, up close. And I don't know how he survived. But again, like you said, that Coke strength kept him going. Cocaine's a hell of a truck.

Yeah, keep you going. I never finished the game, so I don't know how it played out. I was just more surprised. Like, how the hell did he survive? Well,

they were supposed to do a single, or not sequel, a sequel to this, because they were supposed to go. they were supposed to spin off the whole aspect of Michelle Pfeiffer not being able to get pregnant that she actually was pregnant and just never told Tony. And then will that kid grow up to be the next?

They said yes, but not on the level of Tony, but him trying to get to that level. So I don't know. That was last time I heard. doing anything close to being a sequel. The game was fun, but I don't think I would have wanted another one. It would have just been, no. I mean, we would have watched it, of course.

We would have went and watched it, but now I don't think it would have been the same. Did you see the original one, the 1932 one? I seen it, but I saw it when I was a kid, so I couldn't really tell you. I didn't, I saw it once a long time ago when I found out that this one was supposedly a remake, but I don't remember it being the same. Came out in 1932, an ambitious and nearly insane violent gangster

climbs the ladder of success in the mob, but his weakness proved to be his downfall. Scarface. Who was Scarface? facing this one. It was Tony Paul Muni. I have the steel book and it's got both

versions. This 32 one and the 83 one. Geez, Boris Karloff was in this? Yeah, I saw this a long time ago. I do not remember it. There wasn't no huge gun battle at the end. Yeah, I'm looking as far

as the sequel, I can't even pronounce his name. Lucas. The guy that did this, Spirio remake. I guess he is on board to direct. This was announced May 14th, 2020, and

it's supposed remake. And it's supposed to be written by the, the Cohen brothers. I still see it, but I'm pretty sure it won't have nothing to do with the

Cuban refugee or anything like that. I'll find something from today. To do it. But I Leave this movie alone. I mean To Hollywood, they can. If they base it on the original one and remake that, all right.

But don't, don't, this. You can't match up what De Palma and Oliver Stone and Al Pacino did in this. I mean, yeah, it's Hollywood. We always say this. they, they, so there's a bunch of

movies they shouldn't touch. This is one of them. And Jaws is the other. Leave those alone. Oh, Jaws will happen one day. It'll happen. Oh, man.

Wait another 50 years and then make it because I doubt I'll be 100 years old. But, wait, come on. Wait until I live my life before you ruin it with a remake of Jaws. just because we're talking about it will be announced tomorrow or something

that um shout out to my girl Becca we did a um an anchor episode dealing with all these movie lists we did we were talking about 16 candles and because I remember they were talking about them one to remake it a long time ago

and we said they they couldn't remake that movie today because of some of the stuff that was going on in it mainly dealing with some racial stuff but we spoke too soon not 30 minutes after we were done with that episode one of my friends tagged me or something and they're gonna they want to remake 16

Campbells I was like oh no we spoke too soon and uh it's coming I was like really I was like oh my God um

starring Selena Gomez um this is this is the thing that I read. Almost 40 years later, John Hughes, iconic 1984 classic 16 Candles is getting a modern TV reboot. TV?

Okay. Yeah, Selena Gomez is, I assume she's going to be Sam. Well, I watch it, of course, I'll watch it, but no, just leave it alone. You guys ruined Valley Girl. With that stupid remake that they did a few years ago,

that was like the worst movie ever or not the 1983 one the 2000 or the 2021 I mean nothing against Jessica Raffey or whatever her name is

that girl and Happy death Yeah Nothing against her I love her But oh my God They just destroyed

Valley girl It was a musical It wasn't like how The That's probably why I didn't watch it And it was one of those ones where they'd be talking and then just break out into song and dance. Oh, man. Miss Monica, I love you to death.

You know that. But, oh, she was telling me, oh, it's pretty good. I liked it. And I trust her. So I'm like, cool. I'll watch it. Oh, Monica, you are so wrong. I mean, I hated that movie.

That was the worst movie of 2020. Only, I only say that because I love the original one, because of Cage and Debra for him and that. that. Oh, man. And now they're going to ruin it with 16 candles. And of course they're going to do jobs. See, out of anything,

John Hughes, I would always, I always thought they would have redid the breakfast club. They're listening to you. That'll come out tomorrow, too. I've just, oh, man,

if I was, if I was to make a movie, I would put in the clause somewhere. Do not remit. make this. I don't know if they could do that. I mean, isn't that like, uh, what is it back to the future? Doesn't, uh, Zemeckas have something to say about that? I hope so. And I hope it's still good. I think that, I think that's why they never did another one. I remember them. It might have just been rumors of them talking about it.

And they wanted, um, Justin Bieber to be, uh, Marty McFly. Again, that might have been a rumor. Don't, don't, don't quote me on it. I saw that and I was like really I can don't want it to happen but I could see something like that I don't just just leave it alone

I mean they're still talking about wanting to remake Star Wars no leave it alone it's fine they did remake they did they remade it was called the Force Awakens but leave it alone whatever happened all the go fund me money

to redo What was it? I don't know. Somebody pocketed it. I wasn't going to... I hated it, but I wasn't going to waste my heart on money to someone.

I'm like I like how they thought that was going to happen. It's just the internet, everyone. But I mean, the internet does, they can rowdy, rowdy people up and round people up to get things done. Was it because

of all the fans that said to release? the Snyder cut that we got Zach Snyder's Justice League maybe or maybe they were going to release it anyway but I don't know I don't know but I want to think that these guys that were out there hooting and hollering in front of

the Warner Brothers with their signs released the Snyder cut hey right on to you guys because that movie was awesome I don't care what anyone says all right that was 1983 Scarface and it's your pick

Um, we kind of mentioned this, um, earlier. Um, what year did this one come out? Um, it is streaming on YouTube. That's only, oh, is it, that's the only one place I've seen it streaming unless you rent it or if you have the DVD, but this is the film that came out 10 years later. 1993's Taylor Hackford's Blood in, blood out. Also known as Bound by Honor or both names depending on which person you get.

When I first saw the trailer, it was called Bound by Honor. So I was like, oh, cool. But then I didn't see it until it came on TV. Have you heard there's supposed to be like a six-hour directors out of the movie? because this movie was three hours long and I don't want to get into it.

We'll get into what we're talking about. Yeah, come back next week when we talk about 1993's Blood in Blood and Blood Out. If you want to be a part of the conversation, I've never seen this. It's streaming on YouTube.

The copy is decent enough. But I don't know which one it is. There's one. I mean, it's the full movie. It's the DVD version. So there's some scenes that weren't in the original cut. And if you want, I think the DVD is going for like five bucks on Amazon. There's somebody selling them on Instagram that was, I guess, a part of the movie.

And they're selling them autographed by, I don't know who. But, yeah, okay. there's a couple versions or different people uploaded it to YouTube one of them the sound goes out during like my favorite scene when they take out Spider

I mean the picture's there but there's no sound so if it's that one go back and click on the other one so or you can just go and click on that scene and watch that and then go back and so you don't get none of Benjamin Brat

you know what I mean jelly bean you don't hear it you don't hear it there's a couple different versions on here are people did people different people uploaded it so if you just type in blood and blood out a full movie um it's there and um yeah so um but it's streaming there the whole movie is there you can watch and there's one where it's all in one big cut uh two different times or you can watch the one that's like 80 parts or something like that because I was like, damn, this thing is a, let me see. Okay. I will put the version I found is it's got the audio for the scene, the spider scene. I'll put it on, we have a stream fiends, don't we?

on Facebook or no I'll put this link to the good one on the stream fiends Facebook group so if you guys haven't seen it you want to watch it it is pretty good or you can just try the page is try not to laugh

shorts all one thing but I'll put the link on the on the stream fiends Facebook page so you can go watch it there but yeah come back next week for Um, 19993's blood in,

blood out, aka bound by honor. With that, um, as far as East Society, we were supposed to record an episode, but time got away from us. But,

um, we, I do, I'm putting out an anchor episode. So, um, go over to, that'll be an anchor episode,

but it'll be wherever you're listening to, uh, podcast. Just search East Society. And, anchor or whatever and it'll be there so

that'll be up well streaming recommendation oh um um we lost uh william hurt um last week he's got a ton of good movies

um check out uh this is on HBO Max check out uh unit that come out 2000 something um I just watched it too

Let me pull it up again Oh 1998's Lost in Space That's streaming on HBO Max And uh It's got the great William hurt And the awesome Gary Oldman Matt LeBlanc

Mimi Rogers Roller Girl Heather Graham Gretchen Meeners Led Leslie Chabbert Or however you say her name And a bunch of other people Yeah Um rest in peace

William Hurt, but check out Lost of Space streaming on HBO Max. And mine, since we talked about Mark Margolis, who was Hecta Salamaka, I've been watching this came out the early 90s

I think. Oz the prison drama series on HBO. I'd seen that in for yeah. I'm rewatching it. And there's so many people.

There's so many that guys in that series. And he popped up as Antonio Napa. He's one of the Italians, the mob. And I was like, oh, I was Hector Salamaka, but he pops up as Antonio Napa. So, yes, Oz on HBO Max. All right, everyone. That's going to be it.

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