The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #32: Blood In Blood Out: Bound By Honor (1993)

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

This episode Brian and Nez head down to southern California to the streets of East Los to run with the Vatos Locos in the 1993 crime/drama BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT: Bound By Honor.    Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com

What are you What to do, this? Calle, you got to pay your dues to me, P.J. my mom.

You want to throw it out, potho? Come and get them. Get it. Fuck you. You want to answer to me

here and now. Come on. What you like the P.J. Bug you are. Come on. Everybody to another episode of

THR present stream beans. I'm your host Brian. With me as always. You know who it is.

My brother, Nez. What's up, man? Yo, yo, what's up everybody? we're back

stream themed hopefully we'll stay on some kind of schedule instead of taking all these these big breaks but we did give you action to returns the other day

I think that's one I don't think of the last one as well as we've got a wrestling out that and oh your THR quick review Yeah.

Death to Metal. Is it that bad? I listened to it. I watched the trailer, but then the way you were talking about it, and I was like, I don't know. Yeah, like, I, if we're not reviewing trailers for the horror returns, like, I don't watch trailers, but we reviewed that one. It was like the red band trailer, and I was like, I was like, this looks pretty fucking good.

And then I watched it, and I was just like, not to bag on the movie or nothing, but I was just like, when is something going to happen? And the movie wasn't even that long either. And the trailer just made you think it was just going to be fucking rock, boobs, blood, and just all kinds of shit. And it was super tame, not even what I was expecting. Yeah, the trailer didn't sell it to me. but and then listen in the years I was like I don't know but oh and also get over to um

the scatterness podcast network and um check out the ESP shorts uh two bullets to or two bullet solution yeah what was that only like three or four minutes long the movie yeah yeah short yeah it was uh everybody in it and everybody who was involved in it right and then direct and I believe everybody was a stunt actors. Okay. I wanted to check that one out too. I want to watch it before I listen to

the review. Yeah, it's a super quick one. I had to kind of get through it, but I noticed when your spoiler part was, because when I'm looking at it, when I'm putting it together, I can see there's a gap right there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out

to Steve. He was like I'm going to listen regardless, but maybe you should have a spoiler warning in there. So I was like, yeah, that's probably a good idea for people who haven't seen it. There's no spoiler in this one, everyone. This is 1993's. When I saw the trailer, it was bound by honor. But when it came out on DVD or it said Blood in Blood Out bound by honor.

So I don't know. Everyone called it Blood and Blood Out. I rarely ever hear bound by honor When a family stands together Against the violence all around them When one son vows to uphold the law While another dares to break it

When the struggle to survive Turns brother against brother You kill your own people All they have left is their bond of blood Bound by Honor Redid R Starts Friday April 30th in Select Cities The film came out.

April 16th, 1993. We were recording this on April 17th, so it's been 29 years. Damn, it's been that long. Yes. So, directed by Taylor Hackford, and this stars a billion people. But the main ones, Damien Chapa, Jesse. Barago, I think that's his name. Benjamin Bratt,

Enrique Castello, Victor Rivers, Delroy Lindo, Tom Tolls, Academy Award winner, Billy Bob Thornton, Carlos Carasco.

Give me some chum-chum. Yeah, Raymond Cruz, Teddy Wilson, Victor Rodriguez, Lanny, Fowleri, I think that's his name. Gregory Revis

and a bunch of other people but that was kind of like your main players Google let me go over and see what they have to say prison drugs and gang war touch three young men in East Los Angeles from the 1970s to the 1990s

okay straight into the point see what IMDB has got to say for itself my eye I was giving these kids a bath and splash soap in my eye it still stinks I've been there

based on a true life experience of poet Jimmy Santiago Baca the film focuses on stepbrothers Paco and Cruz and their biracial cousin Miklo yeah Okay. Yeah. What does the poster say?

Three lives bound by blood, divided by fate driven by destiny. And all right. Brian, when did you first see blood in blood out? When did this come out? 93? I'm probably around when it came out on VHS because I didn't have the DVD. We had the VHS. And man, we ran that tape out until we had to get another one.

We watched this so many times to the point that my boy, shout out Marcus. He tried to claim he spoke Spanish, but he was just repeating specific words he heard in the movie. There's so many quotable lines in here. There's like so much. And if anybody hasn't seen it, you have to watch the, what is it, the director's cut. the three three hour one because that one tells the story a lot better in my opinion great cast great story uh for a movie that's three hours it keeps you engaged it keeps you into it from start to beginning and a lot of people pop up in this movie that are are big now like billy bob thornton

Benjamin Bratt, you know, so on and so on. And yeah, it's a classic. And it, this is one of those movies that just drives me crazy that you can't find on Blu-ray or an age, you know, you would think this movie's got like cult classic,

classic status. There would be some kind of special edition Blu-ray. I'm hoping that since I just said it now, put it out in the universe that we're going to get an announcement or something. but yeah I love this I saw this I was probably like 13 years old I was probably not old enough to watch the kind of movies but again this was another movie my dad introduced me to and shout out to him that he got me in all the movies I talk about are because of him and yeah classic movie I first seen this um when it was on HBO one of those ones But I do remember seeing The trailers for it

I don't know what I went and seen I remember seeing it and seeing the TV spots And I was like all this is cool I knew who Benjamin Brat was That was pretty much it So I was like I'll see it when I see it But I never made it to the theater and see it So yeah when it came on

On HBO or whatever I watched it I want that cut. It wasn't the I think it was almost three hours. It wasn't that long. It wasn't the director's cut. But that one,

during all the Spanish speaking, they had subtitles for what they were saying. But the Blu-ray, I don't know about the VHS, but the Blu-ray doesn't have that. If you put in subtitles, when they speak in Spanish, it says it in Spanish.

I'm like, ah, I had seen it so much, I knew what they were saying because I remember. Because there's scenes when they're just speaking nothing but Spanish. And if you don't understand it, you're not going to know what's going on. But I had seen it. Again, I've seen it so many times. I knew what they were saying and what they were talking about.

So, but, plus me growing up with all my Mexican friends in the neighborhood and everything and hearing Spanish. But you learn all the bad words first. and then when their mom and dad or grandma or whoever is yelling at him in Spanish and you slowly start to pick it up but I don't know enough to

speak it or anything maybe a couple of words if I had to but thanks to Steve Jobs in his iPhone I can hold up I've done this held it up to this lady that was speaking Spanish to me and then I read it and then I

said it back to my in English and then I showed it to it because it came out Spanish so thanks Steve Jobs rest of peace but but this movie man yeah man I wasn't really sure I didn't know it was gonna be that long because I remember sitting there watching it

and it was getting later and later I was like damn man I got a work in the morning but I couldn't stop watching it so I mean this is before you're the DVRs and everything so if I didn't have a tape to record it I would just so I sat through the whole thing and I was like damn man that was

Hell of good. Damien Chappell, you guys might remember him as Ken, from Street Fighter, go back and listen to that one. Tom Tolls I had seen before, and of course, Billy Bob Thornton, and there was a lot of, oh, that guy, like Popeye and Chooey and, what's his name, Frankie? Those guys I had seen. Jesse Barago, I've seen him in things here and there, but I thought, Damien Chapa, to me, was the standout character in this.

I mean, a lot of people think it was just his story. They did another movie. I think what was it called? I think it was just called Meklo. Oh, the documentary? But there was a movie about it as well, supposedly. I watched the documentary when it's just Damian Chapa talking about everything going on. but um i was listening to

Felipe as far as a podcast and then damien chopper was on there he said this movie when it was done when they filmed it it was five out there was a five hour cut yeah i i could i couldn't remember what podcasts i was listening to but they were talking about if it gets like a blu-ray release that it might be that cut uh Hollywood pictures is owned by Disney so I don't know why they haven't put it out on

Blu-ray but I mean this this movie's got a huge following on it yeah I think it was mainly because of cable and VHS and later on with the later generation with DVD but I mean because some of my buddies like just recently seen it and they're from from the younger ages and I was like damn, I saw that a long time ago, and they're like, oh, man, this movie's awesome, and this and that. And then they start talking about their experiences with their family down in East L.A. And all that and visiting El Pino. And I'm like, well, I'm not from this.

I don't know, but they're like, damn. I said, well, is it like that? And he goes, no, but my uncles are like that. So what happened to you? Because I think we moved out of there. But this movie was cool, man. It was, it was, it was mainly about family, be it, uh, the family, your blood related family, uh, your street family.

Mm-hmm. And then the, the prison gang families, uh, how that went on in there. And just a lot of family issues and problems. Um, and that's what I really liked about this film. This, this film was, um, all too real. Cause even my buddies that, that have been in prison, I've told, I've seen this film and, and told me about, oh, yeah, I mean, oh, this part seems fake, but this part's real and this and that. And I don't want to ever know those stories.

All my friends are like, yeah, man, you don't want to go there. So, I mean, them just being stupid knuckleheads and getting caught and end up going to prison for a while. But, yeah, Damien Chapa, to me, was the one that stood out the most, him being half, his dad being white, and his mom being Mexican and his cousins Paco and Cruz and then all the rest of their

buddies that they hang out with and everything so I really liked that was going on I especially liked the mom and the dad Cruz's dad and his mom it was his dad yeah it was his mom

his dad his dad uh his dad his dad it was Paco's mom it was Paco Paco's mom, Cruz is dad.

But that's how they were brothers. And Miklo was, um, uh, Dolores's, uh, Lupe was, um, Miklo's mom and that was Dolores's sister. So that's how he was related. Was she a working girl? I don't think so. To put it nicely, because I,

I never understood how she was with, Biklo's father Um I don't know Maybe she was just a gold digger Yeah And Yeah because he was just some old

Old white guy And yeah he He looked like he was too old for her And clearly You hear him how he speaks about Mexicans Yeah I mean that That bug me

I mean not just because of Of that how that representation was in this film but I mean I've been around guys like that especially for me being Native American for those you don't know if you knew the show welcome um

of how some can be mainly the Native sisters with white guys and then they turn around and say mean things and racist things about natives I'm like I don't

I don't get it but I mean everything two each is old love is blind but i'm just like i don't i don't get it yeah especially the way because it was right the beginning man he was like his dad was like yeah tell those wetbacks to to get busy i'm like damn i mean there was a lot of that there was the n-word flying and everything and and and honky and and whatever else that was going on in this story but it started off with just uh the three the two brothers and uh the uh the two brothers and uh their cousin. And then

Meklo, he was gone for a while because he got into some dirt and the judge made him leave East Los. So he had to go to Vegas and live with his dad but that just things didn't turn out. So he ended up wanting to go back to East LA

and just be back with his family, with his real family. Because in the beginning when you see him, he kind of gets into it with his dad and then he's like, I'm going home. And the whole time he's walking around. He's just like he's good to be home.

And that's how I feel when I go back to Oakland. Yeah, I live here in this little hick town that I live in. But when I go back to Oakland, I live up here, but my home is Oakland. My heart is Oakland. And I always feel like that. I don't go up and throw up my signs when I see the Oakland. Welcome to Oakland sign. But I'm just like, I feel good.

I'm home. And I just feel good about it. And they portrayed it really good, too, because, I mean, not just by the way he's acting, but like everybody knows him. Like he's saying hi to the to the guy that runs the little grocery store. You know, he's telling the bar room coming back to get a haircut. You know, everybody, you know, say hi to your mom. So this is his home.

Yeah, so it was good. I mean, he's a homeboy. Everybody knows. Everybody knows him and everybody knows a family. So, I mean, that's those are the kind of neighborhoods. I love it. And the same thing, the neighborhood I grew up in. I mean, they knew who we were.

They knew who my parents were at the stores and the laundromant and all that. So, and the local bar that was around the corner. And they all, they knew me and my brother because we always went to the movie theater. Never, ever went into that bar. I think it's still there. It was called the Parkway Lounge. I've always, but I've always noticed that there was no window. It was just like a door that said bar.

And I've never, ever went in there. I assume I don't think there was everyone. I saw the back door because it goes right into the alley by these apartments where my friend lived. But yeah, so he, Amika goes back and he goes to see his mom. And then she tells him, now there's really no room for you. That was the thing right there. I mean, did she live like in a closet? It looked like she lived in a house.

But I think it was more so her money that she was receiving. because she mentions if they find that you're here, they're going to stop my check. What? Child support. Well, he's not there with you. He's in Vegas. Why would you?

Hey, man, I know. I know a few. I know a few. Yeah, I know plenty of them. Well, not anymore. They're kids all of age, but I remember that back of the day, man. I'm like, what? Hey, I know somebody that they're.

kids are grown and somebody's still paying paying back child support yeah i even knew some uh ones that were paying and they found out later it wasn't even their kids i know some of them too and we told him dude i don't think those are your kids but no no man they're my kids and then they find out later i was saying that is not a laughing man i'm only laughing because of my buddies but we all laugh about it now but anyway but he still considers them uh his kids they still call him dad because he raised them. But anyway, another story. Another story. Um, but yeah, so they go back and, um,

other than, I assume did mom just said there was no room from here other than yes, you need to get a check, but you're going to go live with, um, your cousins and your aunt. And I assume they had a full house because when she, he went there, oh, he's going to be staying with you. And they're like, why? And he goes, because you have so much more room. And then, and then it's like, ah, when are you going to start doing your share and taking care of everything and basically just sisterly sisterly love fighting each other. I can't live like you. If I live like you, I'll go crazy. But she was, I don't think she was a streetwalker or anything. Maybe she was back in the day or maybe she was just a gold digger and saw this rich white guy. And one thing leads to another

and you get knocked up. But she probably just living her life. Yeah, because she was like, her boyfriend was out there waiting and he was oh he doesn't like to wait so come on and you can see it in mekel he was kind of like oh man he goes i came and i wanted to live with my mom but she's kicking me out i knew some of those guys as well and gals that didn't live with their parents um so he goes there and uh he sees paco and everything and they're out there obviously they grew up together so they all know and uh then they go visit uh crews i like their dad cruises dad i mean he was just strong worker as well as his mom and uh he was a ex-marine well once you're a marine you're always a marine he was a marine and he looked like he was in shape

but then he you you feel that marine about him just the way he presents himself and stands yeah i mean that's how my friend is i remember he was just straight street hood rat and he went in the Marines and now he doesn't stand like he used to or talk like he did he's still got a little street in him still but uh you could see what what it did to him and i think to me it did him good because he was going he was going the prison route it was getting ready to what some of the shit he was doing but then his dad made him go into the into the core and and it turned him around but i remember when he came home it was like dude that ain't for you don't do it he goes I go that I did it. It was for me. He was,

it's not for you. So don't ever do it. I thought, well, I'm not planning on doing it, but it was good for him, though. Anyway, so, yeah, we meet up. We meet Cruz and we meet Paco, and then this is when we find out about the Vato and Locos.

It's funny, because when Damien Chapper was talking, he was like, no, he goes, I've done a bunch of other things. I mean, his first movie, probably, uh, under siege. and street fighter and all that. And he goes, nobody ever brings up those other roles that I've done.

He goes, they always just, Meklo, Wato Loco's forever. And he goes, he goes, they'll yell up from across the street. They'll yell up from cars. He said for a while, it did bother him in the beginning.

But now he goes after 30 years, almost 30 years. He goes, man, he goes, I like when people come up. He goes, I talk to everybody. And I'll sign whatever and all that. So that's cool. I'm glad that he's.

I mean, that's who he is. I mean, when I seen, what was another movie he was in? When he popped up in Money Talks with Chris Tucker. That's right. I was like, oh, it's Meklo. You know, I don't even say Damien Chopp. I mean, I don't want to be disrespectful. But, you know, it's just you, certain actors, you just kind of connect him to certain roles.

And, you know, like Anthony Hopkins, you know, that's Hannibal to me. and, you know, other, other, you know, and he's been in a lot of things, but he's always going to be Meklo, at least for me. Yeah, I mean, maybe he wouldn't look. If you go, Ken, or a street fighter, maybe he doesn't want to remember that role, but a dude got to do. Yeah, he was not a convincing kid. He was Italian in, um, uh, money talks. do that one at some point that was kind of action comedy that movie was

hell yeah he's in it but it's mainly Chris Tucker and Charlie Sheen but yeah they meet up and Pacca or Paco's like I don't think he was the leader but he kind of seemed like he was the leader

of this chapter of the Vato Locos I know because talking to my friends and their dads and uncles and everything. The part of crews that they were running with, there was different generations of it. You got the OGs.

It's just still part of it, still down, but they want to stay home because they're tired of doing all that stuff. And then you got all the other guys that are out there still doing it. This was the group that was still doing it. Because later, when Wumi Papa, he was Vautiloku as well. so and I don't know what generation that was obviously didn't they obviously didn't know him

so but yeah so they they kind of meet up everything and then they get into their little street stuff with the other rival gang the um three two yeah

with spider in the gang spider because they they kind of just come into their their territory and a demon I think that was his name he was spray painting on the wall crossing out of the things and that these guys

see him so then they kind of get into it and that's pretty much where it all begins as far as the fallout from the whole from the whole story on here because once they get into it them

but Miklo he didn't have his VL Plaka that's what they could have a little tattoo the VL. Placosa kind of thing. Yeah, like what Cruz and Paco had and the rest of the guys. Yeah, he wanted his.

What do he say? Get down, James Brown? Yeah. He was going to, he said he would have had it if he didn't, if the judge didn't throw him out of East Los. So, and then,

because other than Paco just being the badass, he was the one that was kind of like, well, come on, man, he goes, show me. He goes, you, you want you, Placoso is so bad. He goes, yeah. show me the color inside of you

and I mean Cruz he was a part of the gang and everything but he was like no no come on he goes let's let's not fight he even said he didn't even want he doesn't even like brown and brown fighting because he was like why

he why do you always because when he was yelling at Paco he goes why do you always want to fight Rasa and then Paco was like fuck that and then that's when he got Miklo and Miklo was so into he wanted to prove himself that he's down and he's a part of the gang so he ran and got a like a pipe or part of a

exhaust pipe from the car and bashed in the back window of a spider's car he had a fresh little lowrider and he just goes ah screaming vivifato locos and i'm gonna get you punk and then they'll go running after them and then those guys all start talking shit but then they end up

taking off you would think that that wasn't enough to get him in, but I guess it was. Yeah, I mean, well, he proved he wasn't scared. And Mika, it wasn't, man. He was like, I'll show you. So that's when he did what he did

and blasted out of the back window. Cruz was the artist of the gang, because earlier we see him in he's airbrushing. I can't remember the name of the Aztec. king that he was doing on that car. And they also have a younger little brother named Juanito. Yeah. He's just another little peewee trying to come up and I'm sure he'd want to be in the

gang as well. So Cruz was getting a scholarship because he won this art contest. And they were all celebrating and they had a big party and everybody was there. And then Cruz ended up hooking up with his girlfriend. And leaving the party and they went out to somewhere dark so he can get his. And he was about to. But then here comes Spider and the gang. They kind of, what do you say?

Yepa, yepa, yep. Which daughter I pick? And there they go, I like mine rare. Because that girl pretty much had her top off. And they're like, hey, man, this ain't, Cruz was like, this ain't your turf. And they're like, oh, yeah, let's give this Vato logo a joy ride. And they, other than they pulled him out of the car and slammed his leg with the door, then they pulled him out. And then they, like, just four guys just dropped Cruz on his back on top of a fire hydrant.

I wouldn't even want to know that pin. My back's all fucked up from working and everything. But I couldn't imagine getting picked up and just slammed onto that thing. And they, um, the spider cut, uh, cruises. little V. L. Plaka off. It gouged it out of his hand. I wonder if he ever got another one after that. But anyway, I didn't show anything.

But yeah, but he's all jammed. He's all beat up. And then they end up going to the hospital and Paco and everybody. They're all mad. They got the whole gang and they're all ready. They're out for blood. But Paco's like, no, we ain't getting them tonight. We'll get them tomorrow. And Frankie, but it's Sunday.

They ain't going to be, I ain't going to mass. Dale. But I like this part because they're all hyping themselves up. And Paco's mom, Dolores, comes out. And she's like, what are you doing? And then Paco's like, it goes, these are my, we got to do it for cruise. And we go, this is my family. And she was like, no, she goes, I'm your family.

He goes, you can't be fighting in the street over street bullshit. And she was, she was trying to tell him. And he was like, no, we got to fight him because we got to, we got to prove. to them that were somebody here because if we don't then they're gonna think we're nobody and she was just like you who are you fighting because you guys are fighting yourselves i mean that was true though i mean that that's how crews thought he was like don't don't fight our own people and she and then miko comes out and then he was like i'm sorry but he had to be with the crew so they all took off and uh this was probably my favorite scene right here it was the clip

I played at the beginning. Spider-Rum, those guys are all partying. Must have partied all night. Because they were, it was like early in the morning still, and they were still drinking. I remember those days. I can't do those. I can't do that all night stuff anymore.

No, no, no. It's 1130 right now, and I'm already tired. I can't imagine going. But I do every now and then. When I go to Comic-Con, that's when I save myself for my all night stuff but anyway I like this because

they um Paco and the gang they all just kind of posseed up and they went and they were up on top of this hill and uh spider and his gang what was there about 10 of them maybe

probably not even that yeah I don't maybe six seven I don't know how and a couple chicks but they were all up there drinking and party and still um So we see Paco and the gang surrounding them, like kind of hiding in the cut. And then we see Meeklo, boom, all in.

That car was tough. I don't know what kind of car was, but it sounded tough and me. And I love the primer paint job. They come, he comes pulling up, and he gets out and starts screaming spider, and he goes, I'm going to jack you up for getting my cousin, Crusito. And then he goes, I'm here to jack you up, puto. And he's got like a tire iron. He's banging on it.

And they're like, who's that? Oh, that's that punk from the alley. And they go, Pung must be on medication to come here. So they start going up. And then there's another guy kind of off on the side, him and his girlfriend making out. But then they kind of go up to him

and they end up beating the shit out of him and grabbing that girl. Then Spider and the gang turned around and sees everybody. And this is what. They came in all stealthy. Yeah. They were up on a dry, grassy hill.

And these guys are all in, black and huh okay whatever well i guess when they're drinking all night can't see so they kind this is when uh paco kind of gets into it and he's yelling at spider's you want to placas so bad another placaso bad so bad he goes why don't you come and get one and then they start arguing around uh with them and paco just basically come on fuck he goes he goes you can't mess with my family and come on let's get it motherfucker and uh they were about to fight them but then that's with Paco's like Come on get up Chucky

And that Chucky's got a shotgun So they're like Oh man he goes here and he goes you want to fight now He goes come on let's do this shit Catch you on the rebound Yeah And they all Vominoos and they all start running

And Paco those guys are going to run after him Spider's about to run down that Everyone pretty much just scattered in every direction Spider's running And when another guy pops up from behind the bushes Or out of the brush and he's got a bat and gets him in the ribs

and he goes down. Yeah, I had no idea what Spider wasn't trying to do because he ran. He was like, fuck you, motherfucker and then like jumped in the air.

Yeah. And then he just catches the bat right in the ribs. He could have just slid like he was sliding into the home and got up and kept running. He's just laying out,

oh, my ribs is broken. Where are you going? He picks him, he picks him up, and then he just boots him. A pocketo gives him a kick. down there. No, before that, he's like, he goes, shouldn't have cut my cousin Crosito. He goes, no what I mean, jelly bean? You just play a game. It's called

stick and cut. He's got his little switch blade out and slices a spider in the face, and then he gives him a boot, and he falls down the hill. And then all those guys, Miko and all them show up and they grab him. And Miko's holding, he's got like his arms holding a spider's arms and Paco jumps on top of him. And he opens up his shirt and then he just carves a VL in his chest and I'm like oh man fuck that he goes

hey what do you say something like here putting something on you so the dog catcher will know yeah and then spider just ah screaming and they basically do that and then he was about to shoot him

Paco pulled out a gun and stuck it to his head but Miko was like no no the dog is alive he's like cruises alive and he goes you know he goes

when his dog goes belly up he's finished Charlie and then Pac goes like yeah yeah the dog is belly up and then they're like fuck it let's go and everyone's yeah

I love how they're running away drone slow motion and yeah we did it and everyone's running having high fives and all that spider jumps up and well the camera kind of pulls back

and spider's game he's they're all laying on the ground but spider runs to his car reaches under and pulls out his little piece a little 22 I think he didn't look like it was that much but he starts shooting

um me when meiko when paco pulled at the gun miklo took it away from it so when spider starts shooting miko kind of turns over and he started he shoots back at uh spider hit spider once in the stomach miko takes a shot and then he fires again and it hits him i think in the chest or something and spider goes rolling down the hill and he's dead miko's that

Excellent shot. He didn't even, he just pulled that gun up and just pointed in, pulled the trigger, by luck hit him. Twice. Yeah, because when the fighters lay in their Mika, they're like, oh, he's dead. And then they all, uh, Miko is bleeding out. So they throw him in the car. Come on, man, got to take the hospital.

They go, they go, they go aw and ass. I don't know these streets in East L.A., man, but they were serving that car around the corner. because they were just racing around. And Baco was like, man, you're shot. We've got to get you to county. And Miko was like, no, don't take me to the hospital. People die there. And he goes, man, you're shot.

Let's go. And then they go, no, Miko was trying to jump out. I mean, he would have bled out and died somewhere if he wasn't going to go to the hospital. So they go hauling ass and everything. They go tan around the corner and a cop just happened to be right there. So now it's a police chase. And they're a hauling ass trying to. to get away from the cops and they thought they kind of got away from them they were cruising

down this alley and they started throwing all their guns out of the car there's your poppy shotgun and throwing out the beachy window and just threw it out the window didn't even try to hide it in the bushy they just threw it out and it was laying in the street so some little kid probably picked it up um but it looked like it was a two barrel so hopefully they shot both rounds off at some point anyway so they're hauling ass they think they kind of dish the cops I think they got them away pulled a Chicano U turn on them and they come hooting down this alleyway they see the cops down the lower street and because they say we got a surprise for these guys up on Indiana street and the surprise was the cops couldn't come up that hill there was no road down to it so they're looking down the

cops screaming ah being dumb and And then Frank, he goes, look, and there's a lady and a little kid in the street. And luckily Paco just swerved out of the way and nailed a part car. It's always an old lady and a kid or somebody pushing a shopping car full of cans or something. Yeah, but it was early Sunday morning. So grandma and the kids are up. So they're like, oh, man, so Frankie and Chewy jump out. and I start running and Miko's like run man he goes just go go and Paco's like no man Voto Loco's forever

so Miko like ah so he's kind of Mlina four by then here come the cops and Pocos like they're like put hands up and Pago's hey man my cousin's shot I'm just trying to get him in the hospital and nope didn't care grab them both got arrested they pulled Niko out and he's bleeding and they just slam him on the ground he starts screaming Miko shot homes I got to call him the cops Homes Miko just turned 18 and Paca was still

17 so he was basically still a kid Frankie and Chudy got away because they jumped that fence and took off but Mekalo was the only one that was tried as an adult Plus I'm sure they didn't throw that gun out the window because I found out that he

They didn't go through any of this Maybe in the five hour cut they did but meek lines up going to prison for I'm you supposed to go 10 years and he ends up going up to st. Quentin and this is this part was nuts when they were going in Damien Chappas said majority

and most of those guys that were extras were real real convicts they said they didn't just fill it up with with extras or with actual, like, working extras now. These were guys, I assume on the level of they can be trusted to be in this film, because I'm sure you don't put the murderers and killers in this film. But who knows? But, yeah, when they're getting, when they're going in there and those big Mexican guys,

hey, hey, blue eyes. He goes, look over here, I got something for you. and that one black guy Hey black baby He goes This bull's been tired For a long time Why don't you put that punk

In the set with me Or even the white guy He goes hey He said hey baby He goes why don't you be my old lady I'm like damn And my buddy said that was real He was like

When I was walking in He goes they they were all saying stuff I'm like Well I said did they spit on you like in bad boys? They're like, no. He goes, but they wanted your boy. I'm like, all right.

Yeah, so they ended up going in, putting him in. And Mikul was just trying to fit in. This is when he meets Popeye. This guy was rough. I mean, Popeye, he was one of those, hey, that guy, he's been in a ton of movies. I remember seeing him in, um, crocodile

Dundee 2 he was in speed and shit he has been in a ton of movies are they

call him in speed gigantor or something like that yeah that's what his name was Ortiz

but they kept calling him gigantor or whatever yeah I remember him as Star Trek um

okay I'm really looking at yeah crocodile Dundee two was probably the first thing I'd see seeing him in and then as the movies went along that was it back to the future TV series

I don't mind I think it was a cartoon because it just his voice because he did a lot of that um but yeah he did it was a bunch of things that I seen in and pop in and out here and there but yeah pop-by because uh when mekel kind of got into it uh with these uh these gay guys because they kind of, hey, hey, how are you? Ola, pretty. Are you blonde all over? Get away from me. I won't use to say the word he used, but.

And that's when Popeye reaches and grabs. Because one of those dudes grabbed Mikolo, and then Popeye grabs him. And then you see he's got the VL tattoo on his hand. me go straight up where'd you get that plaka from little bo peep what he's saying something in spanish i don't even want to try i won't sound it i won't say a rat so i'm not going to say it but basically he told him where he was from and then he he lets he lets him know that he's uh chui's uh cousin yeah he's how chewy he's yeah however you say it in spain I'm basically that's my buddy

oh lae me vato and papa did he just like glad he goes I got some vatas you should meet and that's when he was telling him basically breaking it down to him and told him it goes he goes that's just street bullshit yeah he goes most of these cons in here

click together because he meets magic magic's a three pier yeah isn't he spider's cousin yeah well i don't know i think he was just he was a he was a part of that gang yeah because he mentioned spider yeah because when they goes yeah these are um because he kind of shows

them around here's the the the aviers the aryan vanguard holler bears yeah and those are running all the drug trade and the gambling and that's when we'll meet uh big al sick away for my money punk he goes I'll pay you what I owe you go but don't try to threaten me with your AV insurance policy and then he goes because I got policy with Ryder 2

and Tom Tolls he's a red rider but yeah big out was like he goes he goes he goes oh he goes you can pay your bets with that when he was looking at Miko you can with that tender white meat he could pay your bets with that

and yeah he showed oh he also showed him the the BGA the black guerrilla army and Delaware Lindo was

um run out yeah he was running that that couldn't have been his hair oh no that was a terrible wig as well as um uh not pockets

the other dude little uh his little right hand man I don't remember his I remember pockets he was the other dude let me see I don't remember I don't even remember if they said his name I don't remember

but it was another little black guy that was with Bonafide because they started telling him because he was telling him because yeah I go that's that's the BGA don't don't take anything from them and that one black guy walks say hey what you looking at man

and he goes he goes nothing brother and then he goes hey bona fide because bona fide he's got one of those Afro picks that was made out of a wood and I remember it's got the the Africa

continent on it and he goes he goes you have that's a fine comb you got you should give it to one of my bitches he told he goes you know what he goes you know what this this combs guy just got power, black power. And those guys are like, yeah, right on.

He's got enough power to give a fool like you, nightmares, but you wouldn't know nothing about that. Ain't nothing to me, yes, I know it. So they got to leave, and that's when he gets into it with Big Al and Red Rider. But when they grab him, that's when, what were they called? Dammit. Lalanda? Yeah, them.

They see them. And they kind of just give them the signs. They say something in Spanish and heronimo, Danny Treo. Quick little whistle. Yeah. Something, something. I don't know. He said something in Spanish, but that one to one of them just stood up and started

walking over there. And then Popeye was like, nah, nah. Because he told right, he goes, hey, man, he goes, you don't want to do anything in public. Got the homies right there. And that's when they saw. They walked over him. But he told them, yeah, he goes, that's these guys. And then he goes, hey, and he goes, they like that one dude, I liked him.

What was his name? He was, I remember him in colors. He was part of the, um, Peter Vasquez. I think he was Chavo or Chivo or however he say his name. Oh, one that told Poppy Pepe don't belong in London. Yeah, that's a little past. Yeah, that guy. he goes,

Why he goes, Why you let those put those disrespect you like that? And he goes, I was nothing, man. He goes, I'm just showing my homeboy around. And he goes, he's from the same neighborhood,

says in Spanish, but he goes, he shows him the VL Plaka like him. And that's when magic turned around. Oh, you're the sucker of the Dusted Spider? And, Amico kind of just gives him a nod. And he goes,

well, of a reputation looking for a killer. Then I'm your man. and he either playing cards and he kind of lifts his hand and he sees the 3P written on his hand he goes like I'm 3 Spontos like Spider

I'm the boogeyman and Amico kind of just jumps back and everyone starts laughing but then Miklo was like he goes hey man he goes he goes these 3s putos and that's when Papa goes that's street bullshit he goes

none of that works in here we all click together and that's when he's kind of just kind of breaking it down for him takes him to up to his cell he goes in gets a box

throw some cigarettes and some weed in there and then tells to me like yeah he goes hey man he goes I'm gonna keep you under my wing we're home boys

and he's yeah kind of just gives them the stuff and telling him yeah cigarettes are like cash so he kind of goes all right and he kind of gets to

his little cell all right man thanks it's nice to meet you poppy looks around pushes him in you go get nothing for free No, he turns right.

He goes, all right, you white bitch, give me some chun chum. That's probably another thing. I mean, I don't know. Maybe that's all everyone sees him as now as Popeye. And I'm sure you hear that line constantly. I would like to hear him to see on how he feels. I mean, it's hard not to see that when you see him pop up in movies. I mean, he played this role like super good because he just looked crazy.

He's like, you want me to take it? You want me to rape you? I was like, damn. Those cells are pretty small. He pulls out his little shank. He's getting ready to stab me. He goes, ah, come on, give it up. And then Mikalo's like, all right, all right.

And then they kind of start wrestling around. And Popeye's on top of him about to stab me. He goes, I'm going to cut that VL plock off. You ain't no Vato loco. And he's about to stab him. but then who was the other dude that was with Montana? Oh, his little right-hand man? Yeah.

Oh, it wasn't smoky. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. I remember his name. If they said his name, I didn't catch it. But was it Ganto? Was that him? It might be. might be one of these on IMDB that has no picture.

Yeah, it might be him. I'm not really sure. But yeah, he kind of like stops him because Montana's standing there. And then they're like, whoop, he gets up. He's like, oh, man, I'm sorry. And that's when Chavo's like, peppy don't belong in Londa. He goes, that's low class. We're better than that.

And Montana just yells and goes, keep your bitches in the rec room. Or just keep your problems off this. tear. Yeah, because we didn't mention that the Popeye's a pimp because when he was getting one dudes off of Meklo, he was like, hey, Cinderella, go find yourself a fella.

The clock's ticking, bitch. Midnight is coming. You got the wrong man. But yeah, so that was our introduction to Popeye. He's a little rapist trying to get his for Meklo.

but after that this is when meclo's kind of like oh man he he wanted to do it because the next day he goes up and now I want to speak to Montana but this is all in Spanish he's talking to them basically

he was Stanley he wanted to meet him but um who was it uh magic and Carlos yeah and real real quick it's kind of sad

though because at still at this point in the movie you just see Miko, he just wants to belong, you know, and everybody's always bringing up his white skin and his blue eyes. And it's kind of sad. Sadhood movie. Shout out to, what's his nuts? Prim.

Yeah, Prim. Good cinema. He's an all-star. I love those. I've watched all of them. Also, Jake, did you see the hustle and flow? Yeah. I cannot not see him not having his handcuffed at the end,

where he's just holding the handcuffs. I give it to him. You guys watch Prims of Hood Cinema on YouTube. Check those out. His reviews of the films basically just break down. He's way quicker than us. But they're a hell of a buddy. It's a sad hoot movie.

He's an all-star. Yeah, he does this to. Go over and check out out. He'd be done by now with his review. And I do like that he adds in clips and everything. So, but he got that big old disclaimer in the beginning. Yeah, he's had some videos taken down because of YouTube. Yeah, YouTube's a crazy thing.

I don't want to start putting up clips and then pulling my things down. So I'm just going to go on. The only clips I put up are like old skate videos, but no one's coming after me for that. But anyway, um, so he, he goes up and he wants to meet him,

but then Magic and, uh, Carlos stop him with, hey, why don't you go play with the polar bears or the, the Mayetes? And they tell him, he goes,

yeah, he goes, we're going to, give you the, the steel taluka or something. He's like, what's that? And it's like,

he goes, um, something about the Aztec ball court. And if you, if you win, I guess you win. If you lose, you die.

So they pick him up and they're hanging them over off the side of the tear. I don't know how high up they were, but they're hanging them out. Miko was like, fuck it, man, just drop me. I ain't afraid to die. And they're holding up. And the other guy comes out,

Carlos, magic. And you tells them, yeah, let him in. He says, let's just pulling them up. Lightning in and all those guys are up there. Red Rider. He goes, hey, boy, that shouldn't happen to you if you were up here with Daddy. everybody in this prison wants to fuck him

yeah top tolls rest of peace man he's hardcore in every movie he's in um and gee now that was lightning that's got the swastas on his neck yeah billy bob

yeah I didn't even realize that was him I think out of everyone he's probably the biggest name in this in this whole movie But he was still He was on the come up still I think it was before

Academy Award oh speaking of Billy Bob Um I know what's a full podcast They asked him about Billy Bob To Damien Chapa and he said Um He goes he was talking to him And he kind of pulled Billy Bob

Kind of pulled Miko off to the side And it was like hey man I got the script For this movie he goes I think you can probably be a part of it. And he kind of like, eh, all right,

whatever, and just kind of just didn't really think of it. And it turned out to be sling blade. I don't know who he would have been, but he wanted to admit it. But he was like,

man, he, but nobody knew who Billy Bob was then. So, um, I don't know. He couldn't have been, uh,

what's his name's character? Dwyer Yolkum. Yeah, Dwight Yolkum, he had, he had to have been part of the band or something. Yeah, because he pulled that shit off good. He was an asshole in it, but

Dwight, he's hardcore. He was hardcore in that one movie, Panic Room. I thought you're going to say crank. That too. He's the doctor. But he was all hardcore in a sling blade. I don't even get into the stuff that he was saying in that.

Stuff you can't say, boys and girls. So, yeah, so he pulls him in, they pulled him into Montana cell, and he starts speaking Spanish, basically, and I want to join Laonda in Montana. He goes, oh, you speak Spanish, whero. And he goes, so do parrots. And then that's when Miklo was like, he goes, yeah, he goes,

I'm in here because I killed the 3 Ponto. He was trying to take out my partner. I'm soy Chicano. And this is when Montana had this school. He goes, Chicano killing Chicano is what they want. He goes, black killing blacks is what they want. And he goes, that's how they run this place. He goes, but if we always.

get together, they don't run shit. In a way, I mean, he was making sense, like, because he was telling him, he was like, white's the enemy, whites the system, and he goes, and you're stuck in the middle. And, uh, but he was telling him, I mean, I mean, in a way that's true, not it, not all of all, not all white people think this way,

but, I mean, my majority of these guys, especially all the area of vanguard, that's what they want. But, but, but he was trying to, trying to be, she was trying to school him on everything on this is, this, basically, this is home and this is what we got to do, but they still had to do, uh, what they had to do to get by in prison. But then he was telling him, he was like, nah, man, he goes, um, basically you tell

him you're white, you can't be a part of this. But that's when mecala was telling him, he was like, look, he goes, all my life, I grew up, um, getting pushed out because his skin is white. And then he was telling him, goes, he goes, but, I'm brown. I'm brown on the inside. And then, because then he was telling me, he goes,

because you said it. He goes, everything in here is based on color. And he goes, he goes, use this, use me. And he was like,

what, what do you mean? He goes, I can get to places you can't because my skin is white. He goes, but I'm brown on the inside to the bone. And in Montana, I was like,

hmm, well. Yeah. You can see them wheels turning in his head. Yeah, he was, he was like, or all right he goes well for you he goes you got to kill someone to join and he goes for you it's got

to be somebody big someone we can't hit without losing a lot of uh whatever the word he said carnage or whatever yeah yeah and then he was like all right so they basically tell him all right well i'll bring it up to the council and we'll see um i'm hoping in the five-hour cut they kind of do that because they didn't they did it seemed like his word was the main one. But he told him, he goes, look, I'm not the leader. I'm just the elected spokesman. He goes, there's a council of them.

I think it was seven of them. Yeah, that has to be deleted scene because everybody has a vote. Yeah, so. And I'm sure when they found out who it was that he has to kill everybody. I was like, oh, I mean. Because I think they told him because they're like, look, man, you got to get close to this guy. and it was Big Al he was doing.

Oh, we miss his introduction when they're in the eating in their eating lunch. And the Big Al is just hey, he's saying some racial things that I can't say,

but he was telling him it's kind of going off on the black guys calling him the N-word and he's going to gave him a fucked up looking pork shop. he goes

I mean there's nothing but fat on there give me another chop and he goes that's the way it is unless you got a case of smokes he goes no no seconds and he goes motherfucker and he goes I love it's blushing

I ain't no mausla man he's like and then it gets into the inwards and all that and they were getting mad but then that that guard comes up hey what's going on and they go

and they just kind of just brushed it off and they leave and then uh then what does he say he sees a ray of sunshine down there well before that he goes all right now for my brown brother sorry no tortillas and then he uh he just slaps some uh food uh so little like sweet potatoes or something i was playing and it was hey where's my chop and then he goes there ain't no more or no before he gets into that he was like oh he goes there's a ray of sunshine down there and all that darkness come up here sweetness and he's looking at him

you're keeping all these hungry racial derogory turn towards Mexicans waiting and then they all start screaming and they're like come on undelay, weddo or whatever the hell they were saying to him so he comes up and he's sitting there

and he goes ah he's catching a ride on the wrong train you should ride up first class up front with the white folks and then he sticks a big ass juicy pork chop on his on his plate and he's just like

ah and he kind of winking at him or whatever he kind of just gets his plane walks away like what magic goes flirt on your own time Albert he goes hoohoo he's jealous

that's when he throws the sweet potatoes potatoes I was playing because that was my shop well that was the last one and they kind of get into oh you motherfucker and then he told him

that we run out because that happened he goes maybe someone in the back might sell you you know I ain't selling what's mine and that's when the guard comes up again and that's when Montana goes you sold our meat and you said

we ain't getting away with that shit anymore and then he just kind of says some more racial shit to him so I mean they got into a this is all before they had the idea of Miko going in to get him so they knew because Big Al was running the

the gambling game because he was trying to just tell him about this and that but so yeah he was the one so al's the crazy one then after they talked to him and said all right man he goes this is the guy you got to get close to him so miko went to work

in the kitchen and he had to hook up with al and was telling him uh is what we do start cooking breakfast at 4 a.m and I'm going to put you on the pots with the yeah inwards and he's like all right well I'll do

whatever I do you're all right and he takes him into this room right no one's allowed in here except for me and the staff and then oh he stops before he opens the door and go here check this out show us some tattoo and he goes oh that's nice

and he goes so is this and kind of just touches his head squeezes his ass oh he doesn't squeeze he grabs us um Davian chopper said that was like the hardest things to do

other than the scenes with Popeye but he said oh we're coming up to a scene that had to have been yeah the scene what because when did this seed he said he was like

when he read the script and then he was like I got to do it yeah he gets him in there and I was telling him and you go this where you keep all the goodies and some of them he goes pinto beans

he goes no pinto's for you baby and nothing but Texas barbecue but I was like but I was like oh no what's going to happen this is the first time

I saw it. So he's kind of telling him, and he's like, yeah. And he was telling him, he was, yeah, Pope I tried to take it. I almost bit his dick off. And she goes, another ray derogatory term. He goes, that pig's class. That pig's something. I can't remember.

He goes, he's got no class. And then he was like coming. He was trying to, well, first he tried to hug him. It was like, and Miko, go, get off. And that's what he told him, Papa, he was trying to. take it. And he goes, well, I can wait, baby. That pig's got no class. Just don't make Daddy wait too long.

I was like, when he sucks on his finger. Yeah, he goes up to him. Well, he grabbed them first. And then he, no, yeah, he grabbed me. He kind of reached out there and touched it and then on outside the pants and then grabbed his finger and started running his mouth on it. Oh, this is just a sample. Big Al was all fired up.

Oh, you wild little bitch, I'm gonna fuck your brains out. And then Rico got a guy out of the way. He goes, nope, you do it when I'm ready. And Al's probably out of charged up. I mean, he goes out there and he goes back to work. Yeah, he goes back to work. And then he goes into Montana and goes, all right, tonight you're going to read the black book. And Magic explains this is like a diagram and a Bible.

these are all the places on the body where you can kill a man stab him here he dies instantly stab him here dies slow and painfully if you look at that diagram other than the neck and the head and the heart and all that man there was some

arrows pointing to someone's ass apparently if you stab someone in the ass tell him die yeah if you see well watch American me because I'm sure that guy when they got that guy with that crazy blighted and oh man they didn't show what they pulled it out

but I'm sure it pulled everything out with it um so next day they're in the I told them they said um uh Danny Traill's gonna watch him head on him

he's gonna be watching you they said go to the biggest stock pot there's gonna be something in there for you so Mika goes in there he lifts it up and there's a little shank like a nail or something with some uh... wrapped around it for a handle so he macle took that put in his boot he went in uh he was looking for um al he noticed well he saw al kind of going the store room so he went in there he started

walk around but he came when he came around the corner al was in there with uh one of the prison guards and they had uh the little the little booky book and a box full of money were they fucking no they was he was loading up with that money he was going to go take it in that money okay. And he was going to take it to the car. I thought he was zipping up for another reason. No, no. He was filling up that money bell.

He was supposed to take it to the car. And, but, um, Miko came in and, uh, he was there, he was ready to stab Al, but then he saw that prison guard. So he kind of just stuck that blade or whatever,

that nail into between the boxes. And I, uh, the guard, what the, fucks this kid doing in here he's supposed to be in here baby cakes and he goes man you you're fucking up by letting this kid in here and then hours like he goes look man he goes I'm paying you a lot of money uh to do this and he's like then he kind of starts yelling am i right and starts yelling

and guard was like shut up I do it and he told him was look he goes well how long is it he going to take you to get to your car and told him I'll be back in however many minutes he's all right so he leaves he takes what he has and guts out and then Al starts going off on Mika. What the fuck you're doing back here? Because you're shaking your ass around here like you own the joint. They put out word shit.

And that's when Miko's like, don't be mad at me. Yeah, this is when he reached down and grabs him. And then Al's like looking around. He grabs Miko and like starts kissing him. And Miko's, we ain't got enough time. And he goes, all right. And so he goes, here.

He goes, I'm going to suck you clean. He's like, hurry, hurry up. He's all right, do it, bitch. And he goes lean back and enjoy it. So Al kind of puts his head back. Miko glabs that big long nail and just starts stabbing him in the chest. I assume it's like it just got him in the heart. And then Al kind of falls over and that's it for Al.

So Miko's like, fuck. He looks around. He sees that box of money. And then he looks at the book and realize this is a little bookie with everyone's names for the bet. So he just throws it on the box, takes off his little white apron that he had on. it was because there's blood on it and he kind of wraps up the box and he goes out well excuse me and he's trying to get out uh he's looking out to make sure the coast is clear oh um what's his name uh danny trao he uh kind of caused caused the disturbance he got like um some boiling hot

water and just dumped it on this black dude and ah he started screaming so all the commotion was going on over there miko kind of got out get gets out but he sees that guard coming back. Because when he left, he goes, he goes, I'll be back. He goes, how long is it going to take you to get to the parking lot and back? And he said, like, 15 minutes in Alson, where you better be back in 10. He was only gone for like a couple of minutes and he was already coming back. Who knows?

Maybe he didn't even go all the way to the car. Maybe he went to his locker or something. But anyway, he's coming back again. So Miko hides. He kind of climbs up in the little rafters and hides. And the guard comes in. But before he shuts the gate, he sticks that little blue. book and it kind of blocks it so he jumps down but he leaves all the money and everything up

there he just kind of mingles back into the crowd um but then when the guard goes in he looks around he sees al lay now and he comes out screaming oh we got a man down man down oh what's his name's in this as well ving rames he is the um think he was like the gang coordinator of the prison he comes in Ivan yeah he starts yelling he goes i he goes me to shake this place he's down nobody's leaving and uh ving rames is like i don't want the IDs of everybody in here everyone's gonna do time in the hole so they're like ah so they're basically just locking everyone up through them all and solitaire and meiko's in his his cell in that uh sheriff that um prison guard coming goes look man if i don't get that money in that book back you're not walking

off this still alive and miko goes look hey man your name's in that book too and he goes if i'm if I'm not taking care of and fed well. He goes, the wardens can find that book in the suggestion box. And that guy's like, fuck. I mean, he goes, he's got him. And he goes, hey, man. He goes, can I get an extra dessert? So that's how he got.

I don't know how long he was in there, but Miko, uh, he gets into the gang. So he's sitting in, uh, in the little circle of the seven and they're kind of going around town. He goes, look, this is, this is. this is the last time you're going to be in this circle but this is the seven of us we started alone and you've proven to yourself so now he's a part of the gang

but while all this was going on in prison we had the story going on in the outside with Cruz and Paco Cruz got he was in the hospital he must have been in the hospital for months because Paco other than when Miklo went in prison and Paco went into the Marines.

And when Cruz was coming out of the hospital, finally, Paco, and I already went through boot camp. And I don't know how long boot camp is. I assume a month or so. It might have been a little bit longer because Cruz, his hair is a little bit longer. He's got like a little beard. Yeah, because he comes out and he's all beat up.

He's barely walking. He's got a cane. And he starts title Paco and he's like, yeah, man. He was like, you all right. And he's like, oh, man, he goes, I can't sleep. He goes, I can't play the accordion. And he goes, I just hope I can draw again. And then Paco, man, you will.

And he kind of gives him some pills and he opens up. Because he's helping. No, man, they don't do shit. He's telling like morphine. He goes, that's the ticket. Yeah, morphine's the ticket, though. All right. I had a kidney stone.

And the pills they gave me. The doctor said, he goes, this is borderline morphine. I can't remember what it was called. I had a kidney stun, too. I can't think of what they were called. That shit fucking hurt. Yeah, when they, when I, because when I had it and I first went into the hospital, they, they pumped that shit into my IV.

Yeah. Didn't hurt no more. Nope. Whatever they pumped into me, I was like, who. I was like, because I was laying there. I was like, oh my God. That was like the worst pain ever felt my life. Yeah.

And I remember that doctor was telling me like, hey, man, these, these pills don't get hooked on them. It goes, it'll help with the pain. And I did, man. I took those pills every time, every six hours. I didn't wait. That first time I waited until six hours and then I was going to take one. But you can't do that. You got to take that like in the fifth hour.

because when that pills wear off, that pain instantly comes back. And it takes a minute before. So I was like, oh, but when I took those pills, I had to be laying down because it puts you down. Anyway, so he was hurt. And now he does that. So, and then there was a big time jump because, I assume years had gone by because Paco becomes a, goes into the police force and then he becomes a narcotics officer so I don't know how long

how much time it went by but Cruz is then because for the pain in his back and how he suggested morphine was sticky fell in the heroin and he was doing that just for to get through dealing with the pain then he got addicted

and then his life kind of fell apart this part was kind of sad we're jumping every all over the place during these parts on the outside of prison um Cruz and uh, Chewy Raymond Cruz they're

they're deep in the heroin I mean Cruz is still trying to do his artwork and everything and Chewys is just fucking drug drug addict and they're like hey come on man uh ride the horse because he's trying to do it

but um Cruz's little brother comes in um juanito he comes in and sees them and they kind of just hide it and they hey man cruise kind of yells at him don't come here man you can't just barge in here and he goes let's you get out of here so one he says hey man it's all right man goes i'm sorry he goes i want to come back i like your place so he ends up leaving well cruise and chui uh starts shooting up and then they kind of pass out but then juanito comes back and it looks at him grabs one of the cigarettes, takes her drag, and then he sees that needle there, then he picks it up.

And you know where it goes from there. We go back to prison, that's when we see Miklo and the 7 and everything. But going back to the house, Cruiser's mom shows up, Dolores, or stepmom. She comes home, screaming, wanting to call him for Juanito, and she goes downstairs, sees those two pass that on the couch and sees Juanito laying there on the ground with the surrender stuck in his arm. And who knows how long he was been there.

But I mean, he obviously didn't know what he was doing but he just saw his brother doing it and wanted to be cool. And he OD'd. I mean, just either OD'd or just didn't know what he was doing. And he died. And his part was sad because Cruz kind of snaps at it.

of it, Chewy does. Chewy grabs all the drug stuff, come on, man, we got to go. And Dolores is screaming like, ah, get away from him, bring my baby back. And Chew Cruz is like, he's just screaming, ma.

And Chewis, like, come on, get out of here, we're fucked. And then they just kind of haul ass out of there. We get to the funeral. Everybody's there, Paco, and his family and his dad's there. And Cruz shows up. And they kind of, he's kind of standing off to the side.

And then his dad goes up to Cruz and tells him and Cruz is kind of, hey man, I'm sorry. And he's like, nope. He goes, you're dead to me. You're dead to me like Juanito. You're not a part of this family anymore. I mean, that was some tough shit to say. But that, that was truthful. I mean, it was his fault.

Hey man, Chui's on one. Juanito died. Yeah. Juanito was a kid. He just wanted to be cool. Yeah. And then he tries to look at Paco and Paco just looks away. Yeah, he's like, he was mad.

And he, which you, you see the change because he never really accepted, what was his name, Mano as his father, but he embraces him this time and actually calls him father. Yeah, because he,

he learns him discipline going into the core. But yeah, you see it because, Paco's looking at Cruz and Cruz's got that like, come on, man, what's up? And Paco just looks away. But his dad, man, he was straight up. You're dead to us. You're not a part of his family anymore.

So Cruz is just like, oh. And then the dad walks back over to the service and Paco leaning up and sorry, man, you can cry if you want. And that shit was tough, man. Especially that scene. and just some personal shit. I was like, fuck, man. I mean, watching it again, I've seen this moving over and over, but that part was rough to watch.

So back in prison, Miko's still doing what he's doing. He's a part of the Launda now, but they're still dealing with Aryan Vanguard now because they were having a meeting with Red Rider and they're like look um because he said look he goes look man

because you give this little guy uh you guys you guys killing big al kind of just messed everything up yeah he had an insurance policy yeah so he told him and Montana was like look man

because you guys made out good he goes your guy your members owed more money to Big Al than anyone else he goes so you made out fine and then Red Riders Like I don't care

He goes When your little hamstrais from the flock He's damn gonna kill him And they said Well that monta goes We're gonna offer you Big sum of money If you guys

Just leave Meklo alone For his protection And Red Riding was like And he goes look We're gonna take over Al's business And we're gonna start doing that And he said We're gonna give you

Personally like 20% Of anything they collect from any one of his members and Red Rider was just like, look, man, you guys ain't doing shit unless I say so. But then he did agree with him. All right, yeah, you guys can do what you want. And they gave him, I don't know how much money

to stay away from Meklo. But he, Red Rider, let them keep the business going. So they started doing that. And that's when Montana was, Meklo was the one running it. So he told him, look, man, you got to treat everybody good. You don't treat anyone different.

no special favors or nothing. You just got money knows no color. He goes, everybody loves the gamble. He goes, so just treat everyone the same. So that whole montage of Miklo getting bets from all kinds of the BGA as well as the AVers and everything. Again, how much time went by. But Paco became a police officer and then he's a narcotics officer because then we get this on his undercover. narcotics officer.

Let me get to see. Baco's got a log air, beard, and he's doing a deal with Carmen. I remember that. And what's her name? She was in those, in the,

um, she was in Cheez and Charles Lake's movie. She was in nice dreams and things are tough all over. Remember her last name was Guerrero. I can't remember what her name was in the movie. But Carmen.

was the older lady. The lady that killed Selena. Her She was the one that was running the PCP game. Lupe I don't know if you can try with this last name. Anyway, it was her. She was

the one running the PCP game. So Paco's trying to buy some stuff from him. He's got his partner, Biff. What was Biff's name? Biff was Raleigh

Yeah Biff He's only Biff Man Tom Wilson No matter what you call him He can be Superman And he'll still be Biff

Shit I think when we did Action Jackson I think we only called him Biff Yeah So he's He's biff in this So because he's like Yeah

Because he was going to buy All kinds of PCP And then One of them Kind of Lattergerol Come up behind him Because no, Carmen kind of leaning. He goes, look, he goes, I hate to lose such a handsome customer

because he sticks that gun down in his balls. And she was telling PCP is very explosive. And he's like, ah, he was kind of get into it. And that's when that other girl comes in, hey, you ever had a threesome? And then she was kind of sticking her hand down his shirt. And then she sees the fields of my girlfriend. He's a fucking cop. And he's like, get in here, Biff or Raleigh, whatever.

he knocks the table over some dude comes out of out of the bushes he's about to know um the other girl the young one she pulled out a gun but uh paco blasted her um

and then there was another guy behind paco they're hiding in the bushes that he didn't see him but biff pumped in a couple of him killed him but carmran grabbed one of those little baby jars full of PCP and threw it on uh paco and he went and he goes PCP, like, get this shit off me. So they ran in out of the yard and was hosing him down.

Technically, he should have been fucked up. Yeah. Just from breathing in the fumes. Yeah, my friends were into that shit and we're going on. I stayed away from it. Yeah, I had friends that used to dip their cigarettes in it. Yeah, that's one of friends. I said, he says, not even a joint.

They said, hell no, man, cigarettes. I'm all right, whatever. I'm out of here. Oh, again, we're all over the place. Popeye ended up getting out of prison. Yeah, yeah, that's right. He was kind of doing his shit in prison, and they were just, whatever. I mean, Popeye was still kind of just not feeling me.

He just didn't like him at all. But he was getting out of prison. but before he got out of prison they voted Mikolo in to be in the council Yeah in exchange to To wipe his because he accumulated some debt Yeah because he goes look he goes

Because he goes pop board Because Miklo told him look man He goes you You owe us a lot of money And he goes well I need my money for the streets And he goes times are tough out there He goes look man He goes they want you on the council

Or Montana want himiko on the council he goes but they need they need my vote and he goes erase my debt and I'll vote you in Miko goes well he goes I'll erase it out of his book he goes but I'm going to keep it up in my memory

and Pauai was like yeah man goes whenever you get out come see me and you get whatever you want but Popeye still gave him that like fuck you look so Popeye ends up getting out of prison Mekalo is a part of the seven now and at the PCP

bust Popeye and Smokey and there was another dude in there I can't remember his name. Apache. Yeah, Apache is Smokey. Apache, he's the guy I was telling you about everybody go back and listen to a Bloodsport episode. That's the Moitai guy

with the slick back hair. No, yeah, that's right. He was in there with him. No, that wasn't a, Smokey was the guy from Bloodsport. No, I'm looking at it right here. It's Apache.

is it? Yeah, he's played by Paulo Tuka. Oh, that is him. Okay, who the fuck is Smokey? Smokey was, he's the guy that they were jumping ahead, the one that ends up getting killed

in the church. Oh, that's Carlos's brother. Yeah. Okay, Apache is that, uh, I was thinking of someone else. Okay. Yeah, that's Apache.

All right. Yeah, Apache and Smokey were in the car. They come driving by, they see all the cops there. And they're like, fuck, man, we lost the lab. And all the money that they owed the clavo or whatever his name was. Yeah, which, how much money did you claim that you needed for the streets if you turn around and you owe a loan shark a whole bunch of money? I don't know. Well, he was the one in the front of the money for the PCP lab.

so yeah they're like oh man we lost the lab and all his money so but um when they were driving by carmen was on the porch and she was kind of singling any of them and uh paco saw it so they go driving by and then paco he's sighing him and they all go chasing after him and he's just in his spankies and he's running down the road and uh the cop goes around the corner the car goes around the corner but then the cops jump in front of it and then they start pulling them out and uh pop by when Paco was searching Popeye He's like, hey, that's a nice Plaka. He goes, you should be riding with me.

He's not fucking with me. And then Paco, like, hey, I'm not your brother. And he goes, he goes, punk's like you are killing off our kids. And he starts throwing them in. So they take them into jail. They're trying to figure out who they are and what they were doing. But they were just kind of keeping quiet because then when Paco was talking to Smokey, he was the one telling him

he goes look man because he was showing him a video I was like look he goes he goes he don't recognize your own son he goes that ain't fuck you that ain't my son that's not Hector yeah and he goes no this kid is

however I think he was like young like 12 or something like that and then he's like he goes yeah he goes you guys are selling that stuff turning our kids into this and he tells him and my papa like don't say nothing so he kind of just keeps

quiet so they just kind of just lock them up it was my favorite line dropped here when he tells you still smell like chorizo pig he goes he might grow your hair and talk like a vato but you still smell like

chorizo pig so they got I guess they just held them and they had let him they really didn't have anything on them but back in the prison um Mikola was still

trying to get his come up, but he was trying to get out, but he had a probationary board meeting, see if he can get out and I'll probate on parole. Parole. I was a

parole hearing, yeah. But they told him no, and in Montana, they didn't even listen to me. And he goes, look, you've got to prove to them that you want to get out of here. And it goes, everything is, you got to prove it to them on paper. So he got his GED and everything. She just proved to them that you can still do it out in regular society.

So he's just started doing all his stuff, what he had to do. And then when he got his next probation or his parole hearing, they granted him. But Ving Rames' character, what was his name? Ivan. Did they even say his name? No, I'm just going off what it says. I think they said like his last name or whatever to him. But anyway, oh yeah, they told them they let him out.

But before they let him out, Ivan was like, hey, man, he goes, this guy's in a gang. And their motto was bloody and blood out. He said this in that first parole hearing, but they basically said, nah, well, you're good. Here, we granted you parole. So he got out. And Miko ended up. with Cruz Cruz picked him up

and then took him and he was telling and he was like he was like yeah he goes hey he asked Cruz if he had seen Paco and Paco and he's like nah man Paco the Narc

he goes he probably busts me and he told him he goes yeah because he told him he goes yeah they family don't want me around

anymore and Miko I was like man that's fucked up he goes we're supposed to be family and he's like

yeah it's just the way it is I mean but I mean it's Cruz's fault why they don't want them around It's not like, don't do the woe as me.

I didn't do anything because of you that Juanito died. It was for your actions is why you're not in the family anymore. It's tough love, man. You got to do what you got to do everybody. But, yeah, this is when Amico goes up to the famous apartments. And he goes, well, he ain't famous no more. And he told him, but, yeah, I got to stay here because the parole board has his address and it's there. So he goes up there and pounds on the door

And the Popeye And he's all Fucked up Because he opens the door He's standing in his spankies He goes hey He goes yeah man He was supposed to have an apartment for him

And he goes nah man He goes This whole place is filled up Because when they go in there We see all that Yeah We see Apache and all those guys Laying around

Now I don't know who that dude on the couch was but he did that big ass gun he just stuck it back in between the cushions and then Michael was like hey man he said you have an apartment you have an apartment for me and Papa just a fucking minute your majesty

you know this isn't like to join with three hots in the cot this is the street told me this is you know just for at least six months or whatever he said some me call it's like what Pope I told him was yeah man he got a job for you at that tire shop

or whatever the hell it was yeah I was always wanted to know what they were doing there. It just looked like they was rolling tires back and forth. Yeah, I don't know what he was beating on it with a sledge him. I don't know everyone. For those you that do tires, you probably know. It looked like he was training in MMA or

something. It's hitting big tires and pushing them around. It was like the tractor tires and everything on those big bulldozers. It was those type of tires. So yeah, there's a montage of MECLA working. He finds out that Popeye's getting 30% from everybody to pay back the loan shark.

Yeah, because Miklo was talking to just one of the other workers. And he's like, man, this isn't how long it's just supposed to be. And that one guy said, and goes, yeah, man, he goes, Popeye's docking money for him to pay back the loan shark. And Miklo's like, man, fuck. So he's hanging out with crews and they go back to the house. and they tried to get in, but there's a chain. So he starts pounding on the door.

And that one guy, I don't know, he's in one of those, that dude, he's in a ton of movies. Oh, the crazy looking guy? Yeah, big old tall Mexican guy. He kind of comes to the door. And then he's like, who are you? He's speaking in Spanish. And he goes, I live here. And he goes, he's just yelling for Popeye.

Something, something, basically, who's this weddo? Or who's this white guy? is what he says is Spanish. And then Papa is like, he's cool, it's all right, he's crashing here. So they let him in.

And he's standing there with a big ass gun. And then Malik Miko's like, hey, man, he goes, he goes, you're not supposed to be doing shit like that.

Oh, he goes, you're going to mess up my parole. He goes, why are you going to get these guys out of here? And Papa, I say, why don't you go change the tire,

man. We're talking about heavy business. And then the cruise is like, come on, man, let's just go. And Amico, like, no,

he goes, He goes, this is my home. And they're dealing with... Crosito. Yeah, they're dealing with the guy that front of all the money, Clavo, he turns around. Clucito.

He goes, you're a tough mama to find. What about those five Gs you owe me? And he's like, oh. And Wigo looked at him like, hey man, I just got to sell a few of my paintings and I'll get you fit here.

And he's like, yeah, he goes, because at least you gave me some panties. You go, this Bob also hasn't given me dick. And there, Jay was trying to tell him, but Miko was still mad. Like, you guys get out of here. But then he's like, well, what's going on? And they said they were

going to do a robin armor truck. And said all that money is going to be. Well, no, first Miko got into it with, um, clobber because he pulled that knife on him. And then he goes, well,

what because he's like yeah man he's whatever we do clear it off Popeye's debt and they in Clabo gets all his money and Miko's telling him what's telling him like hey nah man that that's a armored trucks or a sucker's deal and he told him nah man he goes the driver's in on it he's a customer

and they were like well he was like because the cruiser's tell him like dude just fly straight man don't don't get involved in this shit but Miko was already tired he wanted his money money his money back and everything because when he was arguing with papa papa I was like shut up because I'll put you fucking high heels again and Miguel's like fuck you goes I'm saying you to hell with Big Al everybody's just kind of sitting there like the fuck is going on high heels big owl what's going on because what meeklo said hey what about the the 20% yeah you're taken from everybody's checks in a smoky and Apache like hey man he goes you you've been collecting and they're like yeah what about the 20% yeah you're taking from everybody's checks and uh smokey and apache you're like hey man he goes you you've been collecting and they're like yeah what about me and then Popeye just ah

so when Miko gets into a clavo and then he goes he was he was just calling him white boy he goes I need a Trigger Man white boy and he was dumb Michael was just like all right man we'll do it so

he goes all right so they said it was going to be him and Apache and Popeye's like what about me fuckers and he goes you're out of it Popeye so that was the deal they were going to rob some armor truck at a supermarket but pop-i sold everyone out he called uh he called biff and uh told him that uh there was going to be a big dope deal yeah it was a nice voice he tried to disguise himself with so biff and um paco go down to the store

and they're waiting it out trying to see and basically telling them like yeah man he goes you think we need backup? He goes like, no, man. How many times have we done this and nothing's happened? So they're like, whatever. So they're kind of sitting in there. Here comes the van. Because they told him because he told them, yeah, it was a blue van's going to pull up. There's going to be like 20 keys of coke inside. So they thought it was going to be like just a drug deal. But when they're going, they're looking around. They see the van pulling up and they say, well, do you see any kind of connection?

And they're looking around and goes, no. But then they see an armored truck there. And that's when Paco goes, this ain't. It just ain't a buy, it's a heist. So they call it in. And Paco and Biv jump out, run over there. Just trying to get close to it. Because they're in the parking of the supermarket.

They're running up. And then that van pulls up and Miko and those guys just jump out. Just start shooting the security guards. Because they were walking into the store already with those big bags of money. So they grabbed the money. But Paco and they're like, freeze. And they start firing those big old gunfight. the gunfight

uh they got patchy those patchy and them took off they jump in the van and boom bail out miko's still running there like way and he's holding a bag so he starts running they one of the other dudes I assume it was um

one of clobos guys he gets killed because he gets shot uh biff shoots him on the shotgun and then he goes down and then um miko or paco goes chasing after miko and he's dipping around under the cars looking for him and they're high between this other van

Miklo's standing he's got like a ski mask on and then Paco sticks sees him, he pulls his gun on him and Miklo sees Paco and he pulls up the mask goes, it's me, got him now. And Paco's like, Mick, what the fuck are you doing? And he goes, here, give me that gun, I can help you. And then Mikler goes, you owe me

Vato Logo, you told him, because I ain't going back. He goes, you owe me Vatiloko and he starts running. And then Cruz is like, no, or Paco, like, no, no, no, I can't. And then he's like, stop or I'll shoot. He's like, fuck you, detective. He's running. And Paco just takes aim and it's all in slow motion.

There's like a quick little flashback of Paco and Cruz and Miklo cruising around. Shot him twice. Yeah, so he pointed down and shot him in the legs. And then we just see Paco kind of just sitting there. He's up at the Lepino sitting there just like, fuck. then he goes to Cruz to Cruz's house this part was fucked up too he goes there and

Chewy's there shooting up Cruz is painting and Pacco just kind of walks in there and Cruz sees him and he Chewy man just cool out we got a we got a guest and Chewy jumps up like oh shit

it's John Wayne he kind of gets it to him and then Pacco's like hey and then He goes, hey, man, how are you doing? What people say to each other, they care. And then Chui, he goes, is that what you said to Meklo?

Hey, Holmes, before you shot him? And he goes, he was killing. He was robbing and killing people. He goes, I had to do my job. And Chui, he goes, you know, it's fucking bicho. Something rat or whatever he said and spits on him, spits at his face. and then Apaco grabs Chewy, he just throws him out and

Chew he's all drugged down Oh, fuck you Fuck you man He starts crying And Cruz is like hey man You can't come here unless you're gonna bust me And then Paco's Because Cruz is paying this big mural

On this canvas And then he sees It's a picture of Cruz And he's got the needle in his arm And then there's like I think it's like Something's open And then you see Juanito's face in it.

And then Paco's like, who gave you permission to use my brother, my brother's face in your arc? And Cruz, he was my, he was my brother too. And they start arguing around telling him just, you go, don't use him to, as an excuse to mess up your life. And then Cruz just gets all mad and cuts out Juanito's face and hands as he goes, here. He goes, you know, why am I paid him here? Take it. and then they just kind of get into it some more and Cruz is like

come on man he just starts screaming at him and he's holding him because he's holding out his hands like here he goes you want to arrest me do your job do your fucking job and Paco's just like I don't want to fight with you a little brother

and then he just kind of gets sad and leaves but yeah man that's that shit I mean can't argue with with drug addicts. I mean, it's just a losing battle. Some people can turn around, but there's just a lot of people that just can't.

And I'm sure all of us have had to deal with somebody at some point. But, yeah, that part was a little rough. He goes to the hospital and sees Meklo. He's, oh, no, he's at work. And he's at work and they say, hey, man, that convict's out of surgery. He's going to be a lot easier to catch. from now on we go to the hospital and you see that Miko's leg is gone

I think it was from like the knee down and Paco's in there sitting there and he's like tells the nurse to leave and he's like hey man I'm sorry didn't mean for this to happen and Miko's just like me and goes you you fucked up

because you're fighting for the wrong side and he goes we're supposed to be Vato Locas forever remember and Miko goes you know what I remember and he goes the day they lowered my little brother into the ground. He goes, that changed me forever. Right there real quick.

I mean, that's cool. Paco turned himself around. And that line right there, I totally agree with. I mean, when something like that happens and it's happened to me, that turned my life around. I mean, it's not like I was out there fucking up doing stupid shit, but it made me look at the world totally differently after all that dealing, dealing with my son.

And but Mikolo was like, nah, man, you're, you're dead to me. You go, I'm cutting you off like they cut my leg. And Paco was just like, ah, see, Miklo was far gone. Mm-hmm. It was too late for him. So Miklo ends up going back to prison and goes back to St. Quentin again. He gets there. Everyone's all riled up.

Pockets is getting all mad. He goes, hey, man, you need to tell Carlos stop stealing my customer. And Mekalo don't know what the hell is going on. He just got back. He gets up back to the top and he sees Carlos and he's like, hey, man, what's up with pockets? And Carlos is like, ah, man, he goes, don't pay no attention to cheap conversation. He goes, he's been selling his buyer's baby powder. He goes, it's not my fault.

The customers know where the quality is. And they're like, what? So he ends up getting to a cell and he's with magic. and he starts telling him, hey man, what's going on? And he told him that Carlos found some sweet connection. A Caribbean flake. Yeah, it's a drug connection.

He's the fuck that he hook up. And they said, nobody knows. So he's like, all right, because he was telling him, and goes, yeah, man, he goes, things out in the street are all jacked up. They're basically killing each other. And then he told, you see him kind of fixing his leg. and magic's like ah he goes man's

your own cousin did that to you should put a hit on that put a hit on that putto he's like nah man he goes his payback's gonna he's on mine his paybacks can take a while to figure out so when Montana meets Meklo he basically puts him

in the no no no before all that um Miko's uh going to try to get his bets uh from no he was giving uh No, he did. Montana put Miklo up in the law library so he can help that guy up there. I just remember him from License to Drive and shout out to Coyneheim.

And what was that movie? My girl. I think he was in that. Richard Mouser. Yeah, that dude. He's one of those that guy, type of dudes. But he was running. the law library and up things.

So he was, Miko was up there working for him. So he had to go give his case files to Lightning. No, to Red Rider. And then they were sitting there when he came walking up, Red Ryder was like, well, well, lightning. He goes, look who it is.

You go, white little Mexican boys, finally come home. So I knew you'd be back. And he was like, hey, yeah, here's your. your pill briefings and magic told me to let you know that lightning's account is overdue. And he goes, you hear that? And he goes, he goes, he's here to collect your gambling bets. And he's talking to Billy Bob. He's lightning.

He goes, he goes, I might think about it if he shows me as falsy. Come on, cripple. Show me your stove. And he's trying to try to back away and then end up grabbing him and slamming out of the ground and taking his pants off. And he goes, you got to be out of fucking. out of your mind for doing this shit lightning and when they was taking his pants

off light it was like he goes hold still he goes I bet you didn't fight a big owl when he was doing this and they pulled off his beds and they took his little false leg off and that rider was like here it was lightning did you ever hear that expression

put your foot in your mouth and they shoved his shoe into uh miko's mouth and uh that's one red rider was like look man he goes owned his finish he goes Carlos is working for us now and every day he's bringing over more owned their soldiers he told him why you wake up it's a white world I was like shit so and Miko was crawling off he's like here man he goes go deep and they threw his leg

and Miko was all mad and fucking they put it in my mouth of Montaigne I was like he goes he goes your leg is gone he goes you can't be a soldier anymore and he's like that's why put you in the law library and Miko was just pissed off and didn't just didn't want to have to deal with that shit. Montana was the one, he was the brains of the

outfit and he was just trying to keep everyone together, but Magic and the rest of those guys as well as Meklo, like they wanted to kill everyone else so all their enemies and so they can run the whole thing. Is this when they found he finds out that Montana's writing that book?

Yeah, when he was writing the book on um uh chicanos life in prison and uh mico was kind of like look man you need to keep your head at his book and and look look around look at focus on what's going on around you so like eh whatever so uh this shit was getting out of hand and uh out of the street um oh they were um still looking they were looking for um um um smoky and uh did they kill apache he seemed like he just disappeared yeah he i mean he just cut out got his money and rolled i guess but um smoky was the one that they were still looking for because they went up and um no well shit when did they blow up cheap times

okay we talked about him finding out about Montana's book and I think this is when he goes to magic and basically says we need to take over or Onda's gonna be on this on this finished if we don't take over yeah because when um meclo found out that uh who uh um carlos his connection was um jerry Cherry He found out that Because Carlos was like Look man He goes look I'm going to go to the council

And tell everyone that look We're going to take over With the drug deals With the drug business And he's like You guys need to wake up Cocaine is America's cup of coffee And

But Montana is like Nah man We're not dealing drugs Because Montana is like look man He goes look he loves that shit More than he loves us And he sees all the The needle marks in his arm

I mean, because he was yelling, he goes, look, you even got some of our our guys addicted to drugs. And he goes, he doesn't even care about us. He loves that shit more than us. But Carlos was like, look, man. He goes, I want to take over. He goes, he was like, I want to run the whole

dope game in the prison. And he goes, if you guys aren't going to help me, and he goes, I'll get someone out. He goes, I get the polar bear. The polar bears to back my play. Because he was telling him, he was like, look, man, because I'm going to buy my backup. So what he was,

He was telling us like, look, we can take out these guys here and his brother Smokey can take out the BGA's drugstore down in LA. Cheap Times was the barn. And in Montana was like, nah, no, don't do it. But they knew it was going to happen because Carlos was a part of the seven. But then they were like, he can't leave because if he leaves, it's going to break up Onda. And so like, nah. So they kind of got mad. They were like, so Carlos, he was so fucking drugged out.

He just left. But Minklo was telling him, look, man. He goes, well, that's going on here. Montana's blind on what's going on. He goes, let's just kind of just lay back. Because that's when Meklo said, look, man. He goes, I think we should take what's left over. He was talking to Magic.

What's in the account and the betting money? He goes and make a buy. And Magic was like, are you crazy, man? Do you want to die? But Michael was like, if I have to, I will, just to protect Onda. And he was telling him, like, this is what's going to happen. He goes, fucking Carlos is so fucked up. He's not going to see what's coming.

But they're going to have him, uh, riders are going to have him kill, um, pockets. His pockets was the one that was running the, um, on the drug deal out of the BGA. And he goes, well, Carlos goes after pockets, uh, Smokey's, uh, going to go. take out the drugstore in LA at cheap time so that's when they show Smokey going into the bar with some hand grenades because I brought you monkey some

coconuts from Quentin and he just throws those grenades in. Yeah those were some powerful grenades. Yeah, I mean I don't know I don't know none about grenades blowing up man but he threw in two and it blew the old place up So they were like, all right.

But then they were saying, because Minklo said, look, he goes, if I know anything, goes after Carlos kills pockets, they were going to kill him. Because then that's when they find Carlos hanging upside down dead. And then he goes, and after that, if I know any better, all hell's going to break loose. And there was a big old riot in the yard with all the blacks and the Mexicans. fighting each other. But they were trying to come up with a truce because they told him like, look. And he goes, we got to deal.

We got to own Montana and Bonafide. We're talking. He's like, look. Because we got to figure this out. And he goes, that shit that happened between Carlos and he goes, that wasn't on us. He goes, that was, that was on him. He did that himself.

And he goes, and they were like telling him. He goes, yeah, look, man, that shit you guys pull down. and L.A. was bullshit. And he was blowing up cheap times. And he was like, oh, he goes, look,

Smokey did that on his brother's orders, not ours. And he goes, and he was telling him, look, man, we need to pull together. The other black dude,

I can't remember his name. He was like, he didn't want no part of it. They wanted, they wanted to fight. But Montana and Bono fire was like, look, man, let's just,

let's kind of hash this out and figure this out. He goes, it's not us that's doing all this. and that's when you got Ryder and those guys saying racial shit to the Mexicans and the black guys but they were kind of like all right man we got to choose so let's just kind of figure this thing out

and that's when Montana ordered Smokey to get to get to get killed because they told Popeye and Popeye find Smokey and you're like hey man you think you can move

whatever those PCB cigarettes and Papa said hey man I thought Smokey you was like I thought you were I was on your shit list He goes nah man He goes Zudis was the wettos fuck up He goes we're cool And that's what he told me Then you can move

A hundred whack whack Whatever I think it was like three Or 300 yeah 300 Wack whack whack and he opened that big old cigar box full of those cigarettes He's like oh yeah I can do that And so you gave it to him man, go make yourself some plata. And he goes, all right, Simone.

And he goes, hey, and this is for Miklo. And then he stabbed Smokey through the box and got him in the stomach. And then he goes running off and Popeye shooting at him. Smokey gets away and calls Paco and telling him, look, man, he goes, I'll tell him, like, look, man. He goes, I'll tell you everything, but you got to just get me at a state or whatever. So, Paco's like, all right, me, me here. So then he goes to some. church. Paco shows up. He sees

smoky's sitting there, but they already got him. He had that wire wrapped around his neck, so he's dead. So the police and everybody kind of team up and they find out what's going on. Ving Rame shows up, and he was telling him,

look, man, he goes, this is something bigger than East L.A. And he goes, you hear about somebody throwing in grenades into the cheap times? And they're like, yeah, down It was like further down south And he goes, he goes, I'm guaranteeing this was the quarterback.

And he was telling him, it was like, well, this is a East LA case. And he goes, no, he goes, all this shit's going on. All the things that are happening here is coming at a queue. So he goes, that's why we're taking over. And Paco's like, hey, man, Paco was mad because the police chief was like, yeah, you guys take over. This is your deal. And Paco was like, no, man, this is my case. and he was telling him

and he showed him that picture that he had was the picture when Popeye's parole picture with the whole council Miko standing there and he goes this is he goes I got to this guy was going to give him the whole lowdown on Honda but he's dead and he's like nah

and uh Ving Rames is like well we're taking over and that's when uh Pago says hey man he goes he ever been in the street gang and he goes he's like, no, he goes, but my warden has, and he's, he's Chicano. And he goes, well, is your warden related to anyone on the owner-to-council? And then he's kind of stymor, and goes, look, man, he goes, like, Miklo Velga, or whatever his last name was.

He was like, he's, he's my cousin, by blood, and by this. And he shows him a little VL plaque on his hand. He goes, look, I think I can get further in this investigation than you, and then you guys, he goes, I just want to be involved. So they're like, all right, so Paco's still. He goes up and talks to Miko, but Miko ain't having it. I think this is when he convinces him to make a truce. Yeah, they made the truce with the BGA.

But then when they were dealing, when they were, when Montana and Bonafide were talking, he was like, look, he goes, your word might mean something here. He goes, but down in Folsom and Chino, he goes, they've been losing too many men down there. And Montana goes, you know what? I'm going to talk to Ward and see if he can get me a transfer so I can go down there and talk to those guys. How was the thing? Did he really need to go down there?

Because obviously they can get messages out to everyone in the street. And I'm sure they could have got a message to somebody in that prison. Yeah, I think this was a way for the movie to get him somewhere else. Yeah. So Montana was going to transfer himself down there. I mean, can you just do that? Give me a temporary transfer for a little while, then I'll be back, but I don't know. Stop somewhere to see your daughter, too.

Yeah. Because Montana was all about it. He goes, yeah, man, I talked to the warden, and they're going to let me stop somewhere. And he'll get to see his daughter. Because earlier he told Miko, he goes, look, man, this is my daughter. He showed him a picture. And he goes, she was born when he was in prison. He goes, I don't even know her.

And he must have been in prison for a long time. She was a teenager, I would say. So he figured, all right, well, I'm going to go down there. And he put Meklo in charge. And he said, Bonafide, and those guys probably wouldn't go for it if he put Magic or one of them in charge because he knows those guys are just soldiers. He goes, since you can't do anything, I'm going to put you in charge. So he was like, all right.

so Montana ends up taking off and Miklo and all the gang are still there Paco's still trying to figure out what the hell's going on in prison and everything because he talks to Mikko and Miko doesn't tell him shit but Montana gets they stopped off somewhere this is all in California

so I doubt they would stop in some little town to spend the night and then go in the morning I mean you can drive You can drive anywhere in California, take all day, but you can get there. So, that's a movie. So, yeah, he stops there, and this is when he meets,

what's his name? He's another one of those you've seen in other movies. I had seen him in Sanford, son. And he was in good times. he was the pimp Teddy Wilson he played Wallace

Wallace is in the next cell over to Montana and they kind of just get to know each other talking but the next morning comes this is where I get confused with what's supposed to happen

because they say they're going to his daughter will be there at seven they're going to get him at six to take a shower they come to get him But it's not to take a shower and then they handcuff him to the outside of the jail cell to comb his hair and stuff? I didn't get it. So obviously they probably just didn't care and they woke. They seem they woke him up too late because his daughter was already there waiting.

And it's like they just went in there and woke him up. Because Montana tells him, he's like, look, you tell him the guard. He's like, look, man, I haven't seen my wife before, my daughter before. just give me a few minutes to straighten up because he just got right out of bed I'm sure he could have combed his hair as he was walking or whatever I don't know I don't know if it was me

I probably would have been up especially if you're meeting your daughter you've never met before yeah so they um yeah he handcuffs him to the cell to the bars and he goes look and he goes we'll be back in a minute

because he's trying to get ready and he's all juiced and happy and Wallace wakes up and then he's like yeah he's gonna meet my daughter and he's real happy and he's trying to comb his hair

I don't understand why he let Wallace hold the mirror because he could have held it because Wallace goes here man here's my mirror and then Wallace is like or no Montana's like what he could have handed him that mirror

his hand is chained to the thing. He could have held it in that head and still just brushed his movie at one. So Wallace goes, I'll hold it for you? So he's holding the mirror

and fucking Montana's brushing his hair and he goes, ah man, I'm just so excited and Wallace is like, yeah, man, your daughter's gonna be so proud of you and it's,

and then the camera goes down and Wallace shanked Montana. He goes, this is what you call change of, plans. And he goes, for cheap times. He goes, you guys think you can blow up my brother? Uh-uh.

And then he said, now you're going to meet your maker. And you like shanked them a couple of times and then just left it in there. And then Montatazes, ah, he ends up just dying. And then there's a huge riot going on at San Quentin. I don't know how fast

the news got up there. Instantly. Yeah, but they're, ah, they're all mad. They all found out that Montana's dead. And they're overflowing the toilets and burning things up and magic is just crying and all those guys. Everybody's mad. Miko is just trying to like, come on, man, we got to think like, uh, whatever they called him. Amar metal?

Yeah, we got to think about him and then fucking, uh, Danny Treo gets to say something. Yeah, he was like, you're not a metal metal, you're not. And he goes, but I'm alive. He goes, I'm going to stay alive. He goes, we all got to just think. And magic is just crying his eyes out. And then he's like, come on, it's all right.

So I assume Miko calmed everyone down. And the ride stopped. But we see Wallace sitting in a chair handcuffed. And then Ving Rames bring their like, I guess they brought bona fide all the way down wherever they were. I mean, obviously hours. me I say a day early so went by before all this happened. He's transporting prisoners everywhere.

Yeah, so I don't know why they let him go down. Well, I guess it's probably the only way to get him and talk because Bing Rames is like, this guy has hardcore BGA. Yeah, because he was telling him, he was like, look, when they brought in a bona fide, Bing Raine goes, yeah, that's him. He goes, he's the one. He's the one in the orders to hit. and then

the warden went with Bonafide and he goes hey man why don't you tell him what you told me and he goes he goes I didn't know there nothing and he goes is that your man he goes yeah that's him so he goes why don't you go in there and he goes he was telling him he's like look he goes why don't you let me talk to him

and they're like hell no and he goes he ain't going to tell you nothing so like all right so Bonafide goes in there and sees Wallace and they say something to each other and then he's like oh man the man got you down here too and he's like yeah and he just comes up and who ordered the hit and then he's like you did and then he kind of told him to come closer i don't know what he grabbed looks like he grabbed that bottom rib but he shoves his hand

wallace is already skinny and he shoves his hand and he grabs that bottom red and i'm thinking just holding on to it and he's like who did this and he goes who told you and he's to do this He's like, you did. He goes, I got your comb. I read the message. And he goes, I know your design. And then he's like, just bona fides. Just like, oh, man.

Yeah, because earlier, after he killed Montana, you see him. He's got the comb. It's like a, it looks like it. And it has a message in it. And he burns it. And then he breaks the comb up and flushes it. Yeah. Because he's like, I know your comb.

I know your design. And then he's like, fuck. So when he goes out and he was like, look. Well, he told them, but then we go back to Apaco goes all the way up to San Quentin, he's talking to Mikolo. And he's telling him, like, look, man, he goes, that guy

didn't do it. And he goes, that somebody counterfeited his comb. And fucking Miklo, like, oh, hell no, goes, that guy was no punk, man. He was hardcore BGA. And he's like, nah, man, he didn't do it.

And he just, believe it. So, bona fide in Miklo, they start talking. And they're telling them, they're like, look, man, goes, we didn't. He said, Montana was a stand-up guy. We didn't do this. And he goes, and they're like, well, how did all this happen?

He goes, look, man. He goes, somebody got my comb, copied it, and then sent it down there with the message. And they're like, well, how do you do it? And he goes, well, how do you? because I work in the wood shop with lightning. He got my comb, counterfeited it, and they sent it down there. And they goes, well, how did they know where Montana was? He goes, well, the only way they could have got it is they could have got it from the white guards. And then they're like, all right, that's possible.

And that's when they told him, look, man, we need to get together and just stay together and fight these guys. So they kind of all agreed. And then they said, all right, well, we're going to lay low for a few months. And then we're going to celebrate a big Mexican holiday together. And they're like, well, what's that? I don't even know to say in Spanish. Basically the day of the dead, something, something that I, my Spanish is no good. So like, all right, because he goes, because when he says in his Spanish and bona fides,

and that means he goes, day of the dead. So when all that's going on, the whole, the Spanish communities are all celebrating Day of the Dead. and then these guys go into action. And the BGA and Laonda team up and take out everybody. Yeah, with the weird little sword swipe sound every time someone gets shank. They took out the whole, basically the whole, all the higher-ups in the AV. They took out lightning. They strangled him.

They burned up Red Rider. they squirted I guess that was painting or something I don't know what it was I think they were building tables I think it was like whatever you finish it with

yeah whatever they finishing stuff they put on it and sprayed it all over Red Rider and then they set him on fire and the other guys that I guess had no names all the other white guys they just killed them

they were killing them with weight plates and shanking them all and everything so they took all them out and then Bonafide and Magic are walking along like hey man we get to keep this up and then we're going to be all good and then magic's like yeah and then he just pushes Bonafide away

and he goes into out the door and slams the door Bonafide turns around here comes head onimo and a couple other guys with Shanks and they're looking at him and they're trying to Trying to get him. The bona fide took out a couple of them. He grabbed one dude by the neck and stabbed him. And this is when the magic comes behind him with that big bar.

I don't know where they got that from. But he just stabs it through. Comes out of Bonafi's neck and he's dead. So then they show that the scene after when all those guys, when the BGA and Onda killed the aviers, as soon as they were done with that the owner started killing all the the BGA guys

so as soon as they helped them kill whoever they were going to kill then they got killed and then they were ah this was going on this is when they were all mad the wardens were all mad and they're like fuck this man they just did it's dirty because Miko was talking he talked to Paco

earlier and told him and said yeah man this this is what's happening and and that's when they told Paco told Mikla goes, look man, this, this was a whole setup. So Paco, like, ah, all right. So Paco goes, after they killed everyone, Paco goes back and talks to Miklo, and Miklo's telling them, he goes, look, man, he goes, he goes, this is what, this is what's going on. And Miklo's like, man, you just, or Paco, like, you just murdered all these people.

And then Miklo's like, well, hey, he goes, man, you help me out too. He goes, we did it together. He was like how we took out Spider together. And he goes, hey man, he goes, he goes, you're valuable to me. And he's like, he goes, look, man. He goes, I can tell you things that are going on in here. And you can give me information to what's going on out there. And Paco's just like, what are you trying to say to me?

You want me to be a part of your gang? Are you fucking out of your mind? And then Amiglo was like, come on, man. He goes, we should, he goes, let's, let's be brothers again. He goes, let's stop fighting. And Paco, just like, nope, he didn't want no part of it. Mikul was looking at him. And he goes, Paco, and looked around and goes, I'll always be your brother, Votoloko,

and shows him his VL. Paco was like, never. And he's just pissed. And the prison, they wanted to break up, Onda. So they were said, because of the war, and after they killed everyone, they were like, now we got to break up the council. send everybody everywhere. We're going to get us.

This warden likes to send prisoners different places. He was like, just get him out of here. So that's when they had their last meeting. And Miklova was telling them, look, man, they're sending you to Texas. They're sending you to Arizona. They're sending you here and there. And then they're like, why? And he goes, we have to.

He goes, they're going to, they don't want us here. And they go, but he goes, well, he goes, when you guys, when you guys, when you guys go down there he goes we're going to turn it on him it goes to each of you are going to set up your own chapters and he goes we're going to spread uh on the gospel billy graham style billy graham was a church dude we got to know who that is and they were like yeah so they were they were happy all right they're going to go down there spread uh all the news on da and just make it bigger but then they're like yeah so yeah you guys go down there and then we'll figure this out.

But when Magic and Meeklo are in the cell, me, magic said, where am I going? And he goes, nowhere. And he goes, you're going to be with here, be with me.

He goes, you're going to be my, my leg that I don't have. He goes, you got to help me. So magic was like, all right. And he walks over and goes,

hey, man, you ordered me to destroy this, this mold. And they open up to the back of those radio. And it's a mold of bona fides comb. and then he was he was showing it to and he goes look he goes I kept this for protection protection from you and then Miko just kind of looked at him he goes here he goes I want you to destroy it so Miko just kind of turns on the water and breaks up the bar it was like

bars of stoops soap bars of soap stuck together and I don't know how they got his comb but they pressed it in and that was all right either they had to heat up those soap bars because if they tried to press that that wood comb into those hard as bars of soap, that thing would have broke apart because you know how easy when Wallace just took it and

broke it up and then flushed it. That's a movie. So we find out that Magic and Mikolo are the ones that sent that comb down to Wallace and they were the ones that had Montana killed. They killed him because

they figured Montana didn't want who keep owned a strong. He was coming at him with some other ideas and how to run it. But that Meklo and those guys saw, look, if we don't do what we're going to do now, we're going to go back to being slaves. So that's why

they went. They killed all the higher-ups in the BGA and then the AV. So that was it for Meklo. Oh, we skipped over Cruz's scene. Oh. When he

reunites with his family. Yeah. He's at Juanito's grave site on the Day of the Dead. Yeah, this part was rough. Which this is another part that I figured there's a part cut out. Because I feel like there has to be a scene of them having a conversation about going to see Cruise. Yeah. Does it just seem to come out of nowhere?

Yeah, because in the movie, Cruise is, uh, during all the day of the dead celebration everyone's at cemetery's paying their respects cruises sitting there singing a song at juanito's grave and he's got some boxing gloves like here man just here's your gloves and he's talking to him don't let anyone push you around and uh he's just still sitting there and then a shadow kind of comes up and puts down some flowers and he looks up and it's um his stepmom and he kind of just gets up and it's like he wants to hug her, but he doesn't know if it's cool or not

or if they forgive him. She, like, looks at him. He looks at her, and then she leans in and gives them a hug, and then they start crying and all that. And he's saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And she's like, it's all right. And he's told him, he goes,

he misses Juanito, and he goes, I love him. And she goes, I know you do. And then Paco comes walking over, and he joins, in on the hug and then they kind of pull away from them and they look and then

Cruz looks over and he sees his dad stand in there and he's looking at his dad's got teary eyes and he comes walking over and then they start hugging and he's saying sorry and he's sad and everything so he's they're

back together I don't know if Cruz was on on his way to cleaning himself up at that time or maybe he knows maybe after this is when he started to his recovery. I think I feel like after this. Yeah.

So yeah then all the prison stuff and Miko sees Paco and then Pago's fuck you, I'm out of here. Miko is still running the show in San Quentin. Madre calls him Hefe. Yeah. I give you my life.

Hefe. Miko just kind of looks up. at him but I love to everyone just like was all cool with Mikalo and how they all hated him in the beginning when he first got to prison now they're like especially magic yeah

this this white boy can't be in and now he's the boss yeah so then we get this is a big emotional scene at the end um Cruz and Pacco go back to the L.A. River I don't know how much time had gone

by but Cruz looks like he's better than ever, cleaned himself up, shaved off all his hair. I'm cutting myself down to the bone, shaved off all his hair. They go to look at this painting that Cruz did on the wall. It's the picture of them.

Cruz and Miklo are laughing and Paco's standing there in his fight stance and he's just trying to talk to them saying that, say, man, we basically, we got to stick together. But Cruz is like, fuck, because he was like, He was mad at me, Chloe. Like, man, he goes, you need to scrape him off the wall.

I hate that, Puto. And Cruz is like, no, man, you, we got to stick together, man. We're family. And then, because he was straight up about it. Because when Cruz was telling him, look, man, he goes, look, all that shit that was going on and was bad. And then he told him, he's like, look, man. he goes, because Cruz told me, uh, Paco's, look, you, you're mad at him. He's mad at you goes, but he's only trying to be like you.

Mm-hmm. And then, um, when, when he realizes, he kind of set things in motion. Yeah, he, he kind of goes, he goes, he goes, what? He goes, it's my fault, all this is, this is, it's my fault that the things went the way they were. And Cruz just looked at him. In a way, yeah. I mean, everything

Paco was the one that, not saying he caused it all, but it was the reasoning why, because Paco saw it. He was like, all right. And he told him, it's like, look, man. He goes, it's my fault. He goes, he goes, I started everything. He started that shit with Spider. I wouldn't have made Miklo do that. Take out Spider. He goes, you wouldn't, you wouldn't have broke your back. Meiklo wouldn't have lost his leg. And he

He goes, it's all my fault. I mean, yeah, in a way it is. I mean, did he really kind of push Meklo into doing what he was doing? But in a way, Paco can't take all the blame. Meklo was trying to be like Paco, trying to be rough, trying to be tough. He wanted his VL Plaka. He wanted to prove himself. He was trying to belong and fit in.

Yeah, so, because he was always pushed out. He said it, he goes, because of my white skin. and everyone's pushing them out because even when Miklo and Cruz were talking and he goes you got nothing but hate

and he goes you got nothing but your white father's hate and Miklos you still hung up on my fluorescent skin so but then yeah because Cruz was

he broke it down and Pocka was getting mad but then Cruz was like come on man just that shit's poison you got let it out let it go

and he goes I know man he goes I fed my he goes I fed that poison through a needle for 10 years. And he goes, we just, we just got to let it go at this point. Because there ain't really nothing you, you, nothing you could do.

So they were, he was just kind of like, yeah. He goes, look, man, goes, we're going to get through this together. He goes, we can get together with family. And then they were like, yeah, cool. And then it's kind of like, yeah. And that was pretty much the end of the movie. But it was basically Cruz was telling him what was, up and what they wanted.

Because Cruz was, he was the voice of reasoning, even in the very beginning. But just shit went sideways and fighter got killed. Miko had to go out to prison and everything. But, I mean, this movie was awesome. I didn't want to go this long, but we did. You want three hours to go listen to Action Jackson or one of those ones. But, yeah, this movie was good.

I hopefully they put out that. that five-hour cut because I would really like to see it. So I think we just put it out in the universe. So it has to happen. So I'm hoping you hire up in Disney, see it. Because that's what Damien Chappas said on the podcast. He was like Disney still owns it. And I don't know what they're going to.

I guess a lot of people had come up with ideas to continue the story, to see the more adventures of me, and the more adventures of Paco and Cruz. But I don't know what those stories are, of anything. I would like to know what else Miklo did to his rise to power in prison and did someone else come along. I would like to see a series. Yeah. I mean, yeah, even do that.

You can make it a series. And, of course, Damien Chappo would have to be involved. Jesse Barrego and Benjamin Brack come in. I'm sure they can bring him in there somewhere. But I think if they did, the story would be just focused on Mikuo. Yeah, Ving Rames is now the warden. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I would just like to see the continuation.

I mean, there's a lot of movies on YouTube. There are more Chicano films, hood movies with Damien Chapa. There was one, I started it, but it was just acting was so bad. Meeklo's They're out on the street to LA And he's got an eye patch And he seems to be running Whatever gang this is

And I guess he said He's done some more movies That were more Faith-based Dealing with faith and everything And he didn't really go into what those movies were But Yeah, I would love to hear

The more, the further adventures of Miko To see what happened I assume Chewy died an overdose. I'm sure he didn't clean himself up. Chewy became Tuko. Yeah. Where'd Frankie? Where'd Frankie go? Last we saw him is he running down in the alley.

Yeah, everyone, that's blood in, blood out. Went way longer than I wanted to. All right, Brian. That was my pick. What do you got? We're going to keep this crime thriller train rolling. I've only seen this once, and I found it on 2B. It's 2000s, Brother.

brother yeah this star is gonna butcher this name to kashy katano and Omar Epps a Japanese yakuza yakuza gangster's deadly existence in his homeland gets him exiled to Los Angeles where he's taking his little brother and his brother's gang hmm I never heard of this one Omar Epps I've seen him in a while I think this was younger Omar Epps this after juice

yeah this is 2000 so shit it's movies 22 years ago I don't even know who these other guys are that are in it

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Rush from Oakey podcast, I'm Isaiah and Josh from Tokesignals podcast, as well as, sorry, brother, I forgot your name. From Skodin Cinema. Tyler, Tyler Randall, he's going to be there with us this time. Probably just do what we did the last time.

If you guys listened to those shows, we did put out the audio, so if you haven't, go check out those on Anchor. No, on Skitterness Podcast Network. It's over there. It's a part of the Magnus podcast, like two episodes back. I definitely go over there and listen to that.

It was a good time, man. And shout out to everyone over in Tulsa for inviting me back, man. I can't wait. So I better start running. I need to thin out some because those pictures are horrible. I'm hopefully going to get our shirts up and running. I want to wear a McNus T-shirt when I'm up there. but because the one I have now, it's a little slim.

So I need to get a new one. But all right, yeah, everyone, that's it. More details that come. As soon as I find out, I'll let you guys know. And yeah, so until then, party on. And I want to tell my daughter, happy birthday, and everybody be good to each other.