The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. 35: Catch The Fair One (2021)
Episode Date: June 9, 2022This episode Brian and Nez head out to the East Coast to help a young indigenous woman help find her missing sister in CATCH THE FAIR ONE directed by Josef Kubota Wladyka. For more information on t...he Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women please visit: https://mmiwusa.org Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com
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Do you know who I am?
Yes.
You're looking for your sister.
Where is she?
Where's Wita?
You think I remember their names?
Everybody to another episode of THR presents stream themes.
I'm your host Brian.
With me as always is my brother Nez.
What's up, man?
Oh, man, good.
Oh, this movie was...
This is a tough one.
But...
Yeah.
But we're no spoilers, everyone.
This, this movie is new.
And it came out a couple months ago.
Well, I guess it did a festival run last year.
But it, yeah, I don't, I don't count those.
That's, that's for a smaller audience.
It had a festival run and then a small theatrical release.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
That small theatrical release.
And then, uh,
went to the streaming sites and everything but let everyone know what we're watching uh
2021 well i call it 2022's uh catch the fair one uh new thriller
close it up one time turn grip it again double it makes a
This weekend my sister's got a big fight going on.
You know I can't win without my baby sister.
You think I'm going to win?
You better say yes.
I find girls and bring him to the Martau.
Is it hurt?
Yes, her.
If you want to go through with this, you have to be all in and play the part.
And once you're there, you're on your own.
If I were you, I'd walk away.
Hi.
Hi.
Nice to meet you.
Put your seatbelt on, please.
I'm angry.
It was my responsibility to keep her safe, and I failed to do so.
Where is she?
She's gone.
I'm never going to see her again.
Nobody's looking because nobody cares.
Now the day goes by, while I don't think about this little girl.
You think I remember their names.
This is about survival.
Go! You gotta be ready.
Get out of you.
I tell myself she's dead
She keeps swimming on back to me
Remind me she's still open
Where's my sister?
Believe this one is from IMC films
A quick synopsis
Okay Google this is what I'm talking about
A former boxer is told that her youngster sister
Who has disappeared two years ago may be alive in a trafficking network
That sets out to find her
and sets out to find her.
Let's see.
IMDB, a former champion boxer
embarks on the fight of her life when she goes
in the search for her missing sister.
I like that one a little bit better.
This is directed by
Joseph
Cabuta
Walladeca.
I'm going to butcher some names here.
Kelly
Reyes.
Rias.
I've seen her before.
I've seen her fight because she's a real boxer.
I think it's pronounced Kaley.
Kaylee.
Kaylee. Keelew.
Okay.
I know she goes by K.O.
Daniel Henshaw.
Tiffany Chu.
Michael Dreyer.
Lisa Emery.
Kimberly Guerrero.
Kevin Dunn.
Shelly Vincent.
And
others
written by
you said Kaylee
yeah
Kaylee Reese
wrote some of the story
and the director also
wrote some of the story
in screenplay
all right Ness
what did you think
oh this one
this one
this was a rough one
um
it
it really hit a
a kind of soft spot
to
sad spot and in my heart on
what the story
was telling
but as far as the film itself
cinematography
amazing especially with the
outside wide shots I thought that was really cool
I thought the score in this
was amazing
and I believe
Darren Aronovsky
I've actually said his name
he was a part of this
I believe he was one of the producers
in this but
the only people I knew
in this film was Kevin
Dunn and Kimberly
Guerrero
Kimberly Guerrero
was anti-B and reservation
dogs the one that made the
little medallions
that look like
Dicks
Kevin Dunn he's been
in a
billion things
TV movies
Yeah
But
The sister
That stole this
Kaley Reese
She played Kaley in the film
I knew nothing of this film
Until Brian brought it to
Saying hey
This is what we're going to watch
And we're going to talk about
I didn't even know
This film existed
Much less I didn't even know
Who Kaley Reese was
after I watched the film
then I
I knew she was a legit boxer
because they do show her
doing some boxing, training, everything.
I like this, she's legit.
So I had to look up and I watched a few of her fights.
I wouldn't want to get punched by her
because she was
clocking fools.
Because there was one girl she was fighting
and cut her eye pretty good
because that blood was just pouring out of her.
to stop it for a second and wipe the blood away and then she they kept they went the distance 10
rounds uh kelly didn't end up pulling that one out she did win um so i'm gonna have to look up more
of her boxing because i i didn't even know i didn't know who she was and i never heard of her
but for her i believe this was her first time acting as well as uh writing this helping writing
the story i was listening to a podcast and
And they were talking to her and the director.
And she was like unsure of how to write a script.
She can tell the story, but she didn't know how to put it into screenplay form.
So the director, I'm sorry, man.
I know I'm going to put you your name, Joseph Cabota, Waldeica, I think.
that's how you say it.
They
collaborated together
and made this
amazing film.
There were scenes
in it that I just
I had to stop
it at one point
to kind of just take it in
because it was
really
graphic images of stuff that was going on
in this. I mean nothing, nothing too
brutal, but it
it hit a hard,
it hit really close to home.
The subject matter hits hard.
Yeah, this was a film of a sister
looking for her missing sister.
She kind of,
everyone else was,
it seemed like everyone else was kind of,
she's gone,
forget her,
but she was like,
no, I'm not giving up.
I'm going to find my sister.
And the other hard thing they hit me
was the, um, the, um, the, the MMIW.
That is something that goes on, uh, within our indigenous communities.
But I'm sure as well, but this, it was, it was hard.
The missing and murdered and how when our mothers or sisters are grand,
our grandmother's daughters go missing.
I mean, this is, this stuff has been happening.
since when the invaders came to Turtle Island, colonizers,
it's been happening that long.
And it still goes on today.
And it was,
I was like,
I couldn't believe.
There has been some other films dealing with that.
But this one was really,
like hard.
Like I said,
I had to stop it for a minute.
I was going to continue and I was going to finish this film.
But it was just,
I had to kind of call myself.
down and wipe those tears away and then press play and kept going with the film um we're
not going to spoil the ending but there was some stuff at the end where i was like oh man i just
tears and even the even what was going on in this even the beginning had me in tears on what
was going on when we find out uh who kaley is and we find out what her story is and her relationship
between her and her mother.
Her mother was Kimberly Guerrero,
Jaya, I believe.
And this
dealing with, other than
the missing
women and
getting put into
the sex trafficking.
That was some of the stuff.
I was like, oh. And this is a story
not just indigenous
women, it's all
over the world.
And it's
it's been happening for
probably longer than
I've been alive.
And it still goes on today.
And what these
these
men do stealing
and kidnapping these young
girls and forcing them into it.
I mean, even the
last Rambo film,
the young woman they got there
that got kidnapped and
forced into the
sex trafficking ring down in Mexico.
I mean, that, that was rough.
But what was going on in this film?
Was this young sister, Kaylee, looking for her younger sister?
Because she did not give up.
She know my sister is alive.
I'm not going to stop looking for her.
But she kind of finds out kind of, she got like a lead to, okay, this could be where
my sister is.
And she goes into into it kind of gets herself thrown into the sex trafficking ring so she can find her sister.
And that's pretty much where the story goes from there.
It's her mission to find her sister and rescue her.
And but the movie wasn't very long.
It's only hour and 25 minutes.
And it flew by pretty fast.
I was like really, really deep into it.
but I thought everybody in it did their parts
I thought they they they were all amazing
I thought the practical effects
were cool there was some little CGI effects
towards the end but
it didn't it didn't take me out of the film
but it was just
it was just it was it was
this was a story that needed to be told
and I think it hit
I mean other than
those of you who don't know if you're new to the show
Welcome I am Native American
I'm full blood Navajo
from Arizona
That's where my family my blood is from
I grew up in the barrier I'm Oakland
Straight up East Oakland represent
But
This is a story that happens
Today
Too much
And I
When we hear
the stories of these missing indigenous women
and there is a statistic
that they
don't they haven't they don't count it
there is like okay
you can have other missing white black
Chinese Mexican or whatever
and they'll do their
the law will do
the police will do their investigations
when it seems when they comes to
indigenous and native women
they like okay whatever and throw in the pile and don't even don't even look a year maybe or so ago
so um there was a young uh white woman that disappeared and she was all over the new not not to say
that was bad i'm not saying what happened to her was was good it was wrong was a missing woman
that ended up finding her her dead.
But what I'm saying is her story was plastered all over the place.
But then there was some other stuff going on of some missing women that happened pretty much around the same time.
Indigenous women.
And there was nothing in the news about them.
I mean, that's to me that it's fucked up that that happens, that they don't care about.
the missing and murdered indigenous women.
And it's bullshit.
I mean,
the movement right now is,
is we need to help people.
We need to get this,
up front and in the news,
in writing.
There's writings on it and everywhere,
but a lot of it is just like,
some of you might not even know
about that movement,
the MMIW movement.
And this might be,
this might be the first,
time you've heard of it. But I mean, if you do want to do more research, look into it and read more.
We'll put a link in the description when we put this out.
Yeah, I mean, but this film was amazing. I loved it. And it was sad. I was crying and I was
mad on what was going on. As a father that has a daughter.
that could disappear and maybe forced into this,
this type of thing that's going on in this film or just missing and then murdered.
I don't want that phone call.
I don't want that.
I don't want any family to have that phone call.
And if we lived in a perfect world and it would never happen,
but we don't live in a perfect world.
And it does happen.
I've seen many videos and read many stories of families just torn apart with something like this.
and their family members
disappear and never heard from again.
It doesn't just happen to indigenous women.
It happens to every color women,
but what I'm seeing is that just
when it comes to the missing indigenous women,
that there's nothing written about it,
nothing talked about it in the news or anything.
It's, I don't know, I don't know why.
It's just, that's how it is.
And some people may not think so, but it, it's true.
It is, it's a really, really sad story.
And this story is sad on what's going on in it.
But with that being said, I thought Kaley Reese was awesome.
She, other than she was rough and tough, I loved all the box.
and scenes.
It was mainly just some
training scenes,
but what she went on her mission
to find her sister,
it just,
it just went from there.
And it was,
was awesome,
was sad and it was heartbreaking.
But I'm glad that
she made this film.
I'm glad that she helped
tell this story.
Shout out to the director.
I don't know
what else he has directed.
I want to say this is first film, but I'm not really sure.
I think he's done a lot of TV.
Oh, yeah, he did.
He's did.
Yeah.
He's done a lot of episodes for those.
So, but I think as far as movies, I think this is his first, I think.
I think you're right.
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
Yeah, I think this is his first movie, but he has done a lot of, he done some shorts and a lot of, uh,
Big, big TV shows.
Even did an episode of Fear the Walking Dead.
I'm so far behind on that show.
I still like eventually got to check up.
Tokyo Vice,
everyone's telling me it's good.
I haven't sat down and checked it out yet.
But, um,
awesome.
Amazing film.
It's definitely a 10 in my book.
What did you think of this one?
Well,
I picked this movie because I think not enough people are talking about it.
Not enough people are talking about it.
not enough people are talking about the message that's in it.
And happy to say, man, I, Kaylee, I'm going to call you by your nickname of boxing,
K.O.
Because you fucking knocked this shit out.
You, for a first time, you were fucking believable in this role.
The story broke my heart at times.
That ending was just a fucking roller coaster ride for me, ups and downs.
And a scene that really fucking broke my heart in this was when she's standing,
when she goes to visit her mom and she's standing by that wall and it's just all missing women.
Yeah.
Pictures of missing.
I was like, oh, my God.
All the fucking men in here were the whole process of them taking these young girls, young girls, because you see, I'm not going to spoil, but you see a scene where they're recruiting young girls.
And they're fucking legit, like, fucking.
young girls, barely even teenagers.
And there's a whole fucking process, and it's fucking disgusting.
The people that are in this is disgusting.
Fucking, what's his name?
The main guy, the actor.
Which one?
Kevin Dunn.
Oh.
I, when I kind of got the inkling that he was one of the main ones, I was like, I can't
see him in doing that kind of role.
but he fucking sold it
because I was like,
fuck this guy.
Fuck his son.
Fuck his wife,
man,
because that scene
when she's talking to the son's a wife.
You know what scene I'm talking about?
Yeah.
She tells her you need tough enough.
I was like,
man,
fuck you.
Man,
there was so many times,
like I said,
my heart was broken.
I was getting angry.
I was rooting for her.
And,
man,
I really want to talk about the ending
because, but I'm not going to spoil it because
this is just powerful shit right here.
That needs to be,
it needs to be talked about more and it's not.
And this movie needs to be seen by everyone.
And I don't,
I don't know if enough people are talking about it.
So I'm really,
I'm really proud that we're putting this episode out.
And like I said,
there will be links in the description.
And please,
don't know what's going on.
Just get the information.
There's information out there.
And I'm actually going to try to reach out to her to see maybe we can get an interview
or speak to her about the process of making this, you know.
I, after I watched this, I looked her up and I found her Instagram and I just commented
on it.
I just watched this film and it was powerful.
And thank you for making it.
And she answered, she was like, thank you for watching and everything.
And I did put another comment in.
And I said, look, we're going to be talking about this film tonight on a show.
And I was going to send her a link to it once it comes out.
So, I mean, Kaley, if you do listen to this, I mean, thank you.
It's, fuck.
This, it's a powerful, powerful film.
and thank you to the director um joseph i mean you two did an amazing film and i'm sure it was hard
to make this film i think as far i'm not an actor or anything but i was sitting there's
there's a there's a gentleman uh uh sam seward seward i think that's the name he was one of the
He was a native man.
And he was one of the predators, I guess, if you want to call him that, the bad guys of the film.
I was like, I know you know, it's acting.
I mean, I don't know if I could do a role like this.
I don't, I don't know.
I mean, especially in that film, 8mm.
I don't even think I could have did what they were doing in that.
It was all it it just same thing.
It was a story that missing woman murdered disappeared and the mother trying to find her to find her daughter and that sent Nicholas Cage to go find her.
Yeah.
But this they they go down some some dark paths in that one.
This one was was really rough because I mean this scene there was a scene when she would already had this in play.
I need to try to figure out what's going on and who took my sister.
And her trainer was like, all right, they met up with someone that they knew that was going to help them get into this, this world of the sex trafficking thing.
Because their trainer was like, look, if you're going to do this, you got to do it.
You got to go the whole way with it.
There's no turning back.
What was her name?
I really liked her.
Oh man, I can't remember her character's name.
But whoever her trainer was, shout out to her, man.
I thought she was rough and tough too.
I was kind of hoping that she would have been in there with her helping her.
But I can understand.
I wondered if that was her actual trainer because you look like she was a trainer.
It felt real.
Yeah.
Like even the way she was talking to her, even if when it wasn't about training,
just the way she was talking to her.
It just, it felt like a closeness, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I liked, I thought her trainer, her, I can't remember your name.
Sorry, but I thought she was, she was really good in this.
But yeah, because there's, the internet is a scary place.
Because there was a website they were looking at and there was a picture.
Is this, is this your sister?
And then it
This is in the beginning
And then it goes from there
When it first started
I thought she was like in jail
Because if you're looking at the poster
Uh
It is a picture of a razor blade
And it's got her picture in the razor blade
Yeah
When she
This is like in the very very beginning of the film
We see if she's
She wakes up
And when she sits in
it's up. There's blood on the bed.
You see blood coming out of her mouth and then there's little bloodstained on her
sheets. And then she digs in her mouth and pulls out this razor blade.
When that happened, I thought she was like in jail at first.
But then...
Well, some of those places are kind of like jail because one of my good friends,
he grew up in a group home.
And he said there was certain kids that that's how,
how they went to bed.
They had something to protect themselves with.
So I wasn't sure if that's what she was doing to protect yourself,
or was she training herself to do that?
I kind of figured later what happened in the film.
I figured it was a training thing because our trainer did go,
oh, did you sleep with it in your mouth again?
And she said, yeah.
Yeah, I think I think yes for the preparing herself, but I think I know a lot of people do that.
I don't think that's the place you keep it is in your cheek.
I think you keep it at the roof of your mouth.
I don't know.
I don't even want to try to put that in my mouth.
Probably swallow it or something.
But yeah, man, it starts you right off with a punch to the gut.
and then because we don't really know who she is and what's going on because she wakes up and then she goes to work
and then she's training and then she goes talks to her mom that part got me when she went to go see
her mom for that first time her mom was like the counselor to people that had lost someone in their family
that part got me
because I mean
this doesn't really spoil anything in the film
but there's a gentleman talking
about
he was losing a child
I think
and he got up
and just
figure out fuck this I can't do it
I don't know he probably didn't say that
but he basically that's what he said
and got up and walked out
that hit home
really close with me
because after my son had passed,
I had to go to counseling.
And I did exactly what this guy did in the film.
And I'm sure many, many other fathers, mothers,
whoever had to go to counseling for the loss of a loved one felt this way.
The last one I went to, I got up and left.
because I'm not just I just I couldn't I couldn't take it and I felt this guy's I felt his pain
and that's when the tears first happened my tears were coming in my eyes and multiple
multiple scenes in this film but that that hit me I was like oh and um but I mean power
more power to those people that can sit in those groups and do it I couldn't I couldn't I could
But this was almost seven,
almost eight years ago.
I couldn't do it.
I could probably sit in there now.
Basically,
podcasting for me is like group therapy.
I'm not just talking to myself.
I'm not just talking to me and Brian,
my brother here.
I'm talking to whoever's listening,
whoever hears my voice.
I probably could sit in one of those circles
and talk now.
But back then,
I couldn't.
I had too much.
sadness, too much anger, too many questions on why did this have to happen?
I felt that guy's pain in that scene.
And much respect to the people that take that job as a counselor.
Yes.
To, I know that's got to be hard also to hear those stories, you know, one after another.
And just to continue to do that and to help so many people, I, you know,
my appreciation goes out to you.
Yes.
So, but yeah, that scene really got me and then multiple other scenes in the film.
But overall, the film is amazing.
And I do this sometimes when I watch movies.
If there's, all right, Percy from Green Mile, that actor.
That's the first movie I seen him in.
I hated him and everything else since then, because I could just think of he was the asshole.
in Green Mile.
He had done some other films,
but I just,
when I see him on the screen,
I'm like,
luckily this wasn't the first film
that I had seen Kevin Dunn in.
So I could,
all right,
he's acting,
and I've seen him in other funny parts
and serious parts.
I've seen him in Godzilla,
seen him in small soldiers
and all the other TV things he had done.
He's always the dad or something.
So, but,
okay,
without spoiler anything,
who was worse?
Him?
The son or what was the other guy's name?
The guy that brought the girls in.
Danny?
They were all equally bad.
Yeah, Kevin Dunn seemed to be like he was the ringleader.
And his son Bobby and Danny were the foot soldiers, but they were all evil, evil men.
And, ah, I just, I hated it.
I was just like,
these are these are types of films or TV shows you watching,
like you wish you can just jump in the screen and beat the shit out of a character.
And these three,
especially Danny and Bobby too,
he was,
other than he was a sex trafficker,
he was an abuser to his wife.
Yeah,
and he was,
damn,
I was,
I was,
I was spoiled.
Well,
real,
real quick,
he,
The way he was treating his wife when his son was saying something, he would kind of give her a look like, you know, what did my son say?
So essentially, he's passing on his ways to his son.
And that was also pretty sickening right there because I could see the son growing up and treating women the same way.
Yeah, I mean, I hope he doesn't.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, those.
those were kind of like the main three.
There was other people in it, but they,
they were just foot soldiers.
But these,
these three were the evil,
evil bad guys in this film.
But yeah,
I mean,
give us a few months.
Maybe we'll come back and do it again and talk about spoilers.
But as of now,
no,
we can't spoil this.
It is,
it is streaming on,
if you have AMC Plus,
it is streaming there.
And, uh,
exclusively streaming on AMC plus.
But it is available for Vob.
Yeah, you can rent it at wherever you.
I know I saw it on YouTube.
You can rent it, I'm sure, on Prime Video.
You can also rent it there or Apple movies or whatever it's called.
I don't know, there's so many different Apple things.
But wherever you can stream films to rent them, I'm sure that this film is there.
But if you do have AMC Plus, I told Mike, I said, dude, have you seen this?
I was like, it was when I had to stop it.
I text Mike and ask him, I said, do, have you seen this film?
And he was like, no, I never heard of it.
And I said, dude, you need to watch this.
So when he tells me, maybe when we come back and do a, I guess, a bonus episode talking about spoilers, maybe we'll have Mike come on.
Yeah, that'll be good.
We don't know when that is going to be.
We're going to let everyone get a little, a few months go by.
Yeah.
So you guys can watch this film.
But again, if you have AMC Plus or if we're selling it to you to rent it, definitely this is a film, a must see film.
And I want to watch it again, but give me a little while.
I just watched it a few hours ago.
And I'm just still like, other than I think I'm more mad, if anything, on what was going on in it.
but it was it was a it was a hard one to get through but i bet i did and i mean i big shout
out to everyone that made this film all the actors that were in it everybody did their job
especially the three bad guys the main three bad guy they made you hate those motherfuckers
and uh but cayley just sister thank you i love you for doing this i don't know you you don't know
me, but this is an amazing film.
And I hope you continue to come out with more stories, make more films.
And if you're still in the ring, hopefully one day I get to see you in the ring, do your thing.
Because those videos I watched, man, she's tough.
I wouldn't want her to get mad at me, knock my block off.
Hey, she could knock Barton off because, hey, Akie, if you,
hear this you are beautiful i love those those piercings man you knock me out anytime
yeah but yeah to catch the fair one amc plus please please watch this film and after you
watch it tell everybody to to watch this film um i guess that's it uh it's your pick
lot to take in. I don't know what to watch
everyone. Um,
all right everyone, I got one. This is a film. It's, it's good. I've never seen it. So it'll
be new to me, but everyone's telling me to watch it. Uh, if you have, uh, HBO Max, um,
Ben Afflex, the accountant. Oh, that's, uh, you're, you're gonna like this one.
Okay. So definitely, uh, come back next stream fiends and we're going to talk about that.
Uh, I bought the Blu-ray and it's still
wrapped up. I haven't watched it, but it's
on HBO Max, so
give me a reason to watch
this film. Shout out to Jade and the
Zisu. They kept telling me,
watch it, watch it. And I just never
have. So, but
yeah, this film came out, geez, it came out a while
ago, 2016, so.
Yeah, we did it. That was the early
days of the show.
Oh, here's some more film. I clicked
on it, and then there's a bunch of other new film.
All right, we're going to have to come back and do this other one.
But, yeah, come back
next week for Ben Afflex
2016 film The Accountant.
Did he direct this too?
Pretty sure he did.
He directs everything.
Yeah, the accountant
come back next week.
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