The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #39: Prayer Of The Rollerboys (1990)

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

This episode Brian and Nez join a local rollerblader try to take down rollerblading drug dealers in the 1990 action/crime/drama PRAYER OF THE ROLLERBOYS.   In a dystopian near future America, a young... man infiltrates a powerful drug dealing rollerblading youth gang that runs his town in order to end their reign for good.   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com

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Starting point is 00:00:21 His rage is the breath of the dragon, and his fire shall consume the infestation that has crippled America. If the white army is to fulfill its divine purpose, we must have those who would deny us. They are the enemy, and they shall perish. We are your strength, and we are your... episode of THR present stream fiends. I'm your host Brian and with me as always it's my brother Nez. What's up man? It's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah everybody man. It's been a minute. New year. Same guys. Same show. Let's just try to get back on schedule everyone. But oh man. Oh shit. Well
Starting point is 00:01:50 when we get to the end of this. What are we doing tonight? We're doing the 19th. 90 sci-fi actions. I guess, yeah, it was action. Prayer of the Roller Boys. Let's see what Google has to say. An undercover teen, he was a teen?
Starting point is 00:02:14 I thought he was under the 20. An undercover teen of the dismal future joins a cult of roller skater. rollerbladers that's what it should have been who push a drug called mist okay pretty much something oh let's see iM db and a dystopian near future america a young man infiltrates a powerful drug dealing rollerblading youth gang that runs his town in order to end their reign for good this stars the late great Corey Haim in peace yeah but sure archette christopher colette julius harris devon clark mark pelagrino which the first thing that popped in my head when i seen him i was like oh that's hulk hogan's brother
Starting point is 00:03:11 from no holds barb i just remember him from uh big lobowski when they oh yeah when they first charge it in his hot you're labowski labowski lebowski Who else? Morgan Weiser Jake Dangle G. Smokey Campbell John P. Conley J.C. Quinn, Trevor,
Starting point is 00:03:38 Esther. Director is Rick King and writer is W. Peter Illif. Nez, was this the first time you've seen this movie?
Starting point is 00:03:52 It was not. I think it was the first time. that I saw it like straight through. I remember we were, I know we were in a hotel somewhere. Oh, my uncle was getting married in Arizona and we stayed in some hotel. And I was watching TV and this came on. I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I was like, oh, Corey Ham's in it. Let's check this out. So I think I watched like half of it and it fell asleep. And then all the other times it's been on, it's been on. and I just kind of watched it piece by piece, but finally sat through the whole thing and figured out what it was about. I don't know where the prayer came from,
Starting point is 00:04:40 but all right. It was cool for what it is. And I didn't hate it. I mean, I liked it. So, I mean, it was one of those straight to video. This is another, VHS days. Not the end of
Starting point is 00:05:01 Corey Hames's career. He was still putting things out here and there but he wasn't one of the Kings of the 80s during when there was a teen, him and Feldman and the rest of them, but not considered any of the
Starting point is 00:05:19 brat brat pack. He wasn't one of them. Yeah, this was right after Dream a little dream and watchers. I think Dream A Little Dream is, I think that was the last movie that I saw that he was in, or both of them, that was in the theater. No, wait, Watchers was in the theater, I think. Have we ever done that one? No, I think I remember watching watches in the theater. Yeah, I want to say that was in the theater.
Starting point is 00:05:50 But, I mean, I didn't see it in there. I saw like on VHS, but yeah, Dream A Little Dream was the last one. what I saw of his in the theater. What did you think of this one? I thought I was coming into this, watching it for the first time. But as the movie was going, there was just all kinds of scenes.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I was like, I've seen this before. I don't know why. But the whole Patricia Arquette taking out the painting scene, I was like, I've seen this movie before. I don't know why that was the part that clicked with me.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I was thinking of, something else that uh cori hain was in um i thought it was that movie what was that movie called i think it was called like blown away or something um get away no uh that one chick from charles and charge was in it uh blown away yeah blown away because in that Yeah, she She got naked in that one That was one I think I just saw that scene
Starting point is 00:07:13 So for some reason I was thinking of that movie When prayer for the roller boy Prayer of the Roller Boys For all these years I thought it was prayer for The Roller Boys But then nobody was praying For anybody in this movie
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah I don't I didn't get it Hey did you realize that Gary Lee was a kid from a sleepaway camp Yeah I was sitting there watching and going Who is this dude
Starting point is 00:07:44 And I had to look it up and I went Oh fuck man that's that's the guy that Angela Cut his head off in the end He was pretty good in this as the villain You know he was He was selling his Beliefs Which probably when I saw this when I was younger
Starting point is 00:08:02 like the whole racist undertones and stuff probably went over my head for most of the movie the whole day of the rope and sterilizing people and all that crazy shit but i thought for a villain i thought i thought he did pretty fucking good uh what's his name bothered the shit out of me that guy would have just i would have beat his ass uh bullwinkle yeah i didn't like that fool i just didn't he had like spooky eyes like they just like black marbles yeah i mean the eyes were spooky but the the the hair and just his whole demeanor i was just like i'm not buying you as no henchman this is uh oh this is like oh came out and so it was i was i shot in 89 but it was still what year was it supposed to be uh let's see if it says in the summary
Starting point is 00:09:00 does not say it just says set in the near future Los Angeles the city is overrun by crime and drug use
Starting point is 00:09:13 in the wake of the great crash and economic catastrophe triggered by the greed of previous generations so probably in the
Starting point is 00:09:24 distant future 2002 I don't know yeah this was it was labeled what sci-fi but was it I don't know
Starting point is 00:09:41 I guess because they're saying it's dystopian future that's why I guess it's sci-fi but there was like no sci-fi tech yeah the only thing that was I guess I don't know there's always like a drug like some new kind of fucking drug
Starting point is 00:09:57 that everybody seems to be on and gets hooked on easily and in this movie was a mist. But other than that, like everything, like there was no like special TVs or
Starting point is 00:10:13 nobody had like cell phones or special weapons, nothing. Everything was just regular. Regular. I just just looked like the city was just run down. Yeah, it was just like it was at first, for some reason I thought this
Starting point is 00:10:32 was going to be like, from what I remember, I thought it was going to be like after nuclear war or something. And that's why these guys. But the city couldn't have been that run down. I mean, there's a damn pizza shop in the movie that seems to be doing pretty well. And obviously, the constitution is like no more because everyone's running around with guns. Especially in California, you can't be running around with guns. but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I mean, these films, especially these late 80s, early 90s, when they had these like so-called quote-unquote gang movies, how they all look stupid. I mean, even the Roller Boys, for those you that haven't seen this film, the Roller Boys is this, I didn't realize it until watching this,
Starting point is 00:11:25 a heavily armed white supremacist conglomerant known as, a roller boys. With white or beige trench coats and suspenders to hold their pants up and they do the flying V from Mighty Ducks when they skate. I did like that. I mean, I liked how they were just all in sequence.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Every time you saw them when they came around the corners or when they were going just down the street. And I was like, okay but how these are just nothing but a bunch of rich kids that threw on these uh tan or whatever color trench coats and had roller blades on i'll give it to cori ham and yeah i'll give it to cori haem and uh and uh what it was gary lee's name christopher coette i'll give it to them um i don't think that was them when they were doing some of the the johns. jumps and stunts on the roller blades but like the flips yeah it was them it was them uh that
Starting point is 00:12:37 they when they were jumping down the those stairs that was both of them that did it and uh in the very beginning we see cori hame like i don't know he's in some kind of uh like i don't know a little sewer system thing type of thing and he's just skating and skating as fast as he can jump in and everything some of that was him i don't think that was him that was him that was in the jumps but that was him like going hella fast and uh in that one scene when they were um uh griffin cori hayne was trying to become one of the roller boys when they were hauling ass through that little uh to loading dock uh yard that was that was then that was him are there i'm i was never really big in the rollerblading are there like no tricks you can do
Starting point is 00:13:28 Because the montages is like they're like not doing anything really. I mean, there is tricks. I mean, I've seen guys out there doing it. I mean, our handrails jumping and grinding down on ledges and everything. And they're out there doing it. I've never, I could roller skate. I've never tried roller blades. I mean, if it's like ice skating, then I probably.
Starting point is 00:13:58 could do it but I've never tried I've never like put some on and tried to roller boys you know what I'm not on roller blaze the last time I went ice skating I was going around the thing of my wife was like what the fuck are you doing I was like I'm one of the roller boys she just rolled her eyes oh man what does it say on the poster uh prayer of the roller boys better say your prayers Better say your prayers, boy. They're coming. Okay. And let me,
Starting point is 00:14:33 let me speak on the whole premise of they need Corey Hame to go undercover to infiltrate this organization. I'm like, why? You know what he's doing. He's putting his stuff on TV and like advertisements. And they're putting, they're handing out comic books.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And it's like, what do you need to investigate? I have no idea I just assumed the cops obviously knew who Griffin was I'm sure he was getting into trouble and that was their way of him trying to get
Starting point is 00:15:19 infiltrate the roller boys they what they had a when we see Patricia Arquez she's just some groupy looking chick and she's rollerblading and everything and the roller boys are always having parties and everything. And she's a cute little chick. So she's trying to try to get in there with them,
Starting point is 00:15:39 making out with whoever just to try to get, get up. But we don't realize who she is until later when we find out that she is. She's an undercover cop. She's a detective. I'm like, damn, how old was she? And she's already a detective, but different times in the near future. Yeah, it makes you kind of think now where. their relationship goes
Starting point is 00:16:01 now finding out that he's a teen yeah did all the laws change in the near future what's going on I have no I don't know what was she
Starting point is 00:16:20 investigating him because I just figured if you're trying to find if the whole purpose was trying to find where they where they make the drug don't you just follow Gary Lee because he goes there all the time and is
Starting point is 00:16:35 highly recognizable expensive old school car that he drives around in well I think they were trying they could only go so far because their little warehouse compound was surrounded by roller boys
Starting point is 00:16:51 I guess and they needed someone to go in there to actually see the setup and see how they made it There was some little trailer that they made mist. It wasn't very. Mix and fun dip. That's all they were doing.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. It was just like piles of or little containers of dust. And like, yeah, just add a little yellow, then some white and a little blue and then push. Yeah. Yeah. Like their formula made no sense. Uh-uh. It's like then.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Or you can add a little bit of the red. I was like, what? I was like, well, what is this? I mean, what, I mean, it wasn't like they were in little like measuring cups or anything. They were just like little sand shovels. He just dumped it in there and then set it on its way. And it went through the whole process and then came out as a little pill. Then they packaged it up and then sent it out onto the street.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Griffin's brother, Miltie, Devin Clark, he was, he was just like impressed by the whole Roller Boys thing. He might have been 12, maybe 13. And he was impressed by the whole thing because the roller boys are all about style and classes, what he was saying. And they get the chicks. They got all the money and the nice houses and old cars. And he wanted to be down with them. So they were basically just here, man, just sell some mist for us. and you can hang with us.
Starting point is 00:18:31 A little milty, he was, he was doing it, and then he kind of got hooked on it because he was, he was puffing away on all that stuff. I don't know what it was. I mean, at first, I thought it was a pill. You just took it,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but they stuck it in these little, like oxygen type of things, and you just stuck it over your face and then the little mask on. And it looked like liquid. Yeah. Coming up to tubes. So I was just like,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I don't understand how they sell it. because it just looks like they're just randomly taking a handful for whatever money is being given. I don't know. They were in those little colored rainbow looking paper things. So, go ahead. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I was going to say, like, all the, like, racist stuff, like, originally played over my head or went over my head. But I'm reading here in Wikipedia,
Starting point is 00:19:24 I guess Griffin is rumored to be the great grandson of Adolf Hitler. I didn't, I must have missed that part. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't realize they were quote unquote white supremacist until reading this on Wikipedia. How was like they were? I mean, they were throwing the inward around, but.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah, you kind of got that when they've seen his relationship with, what was his name, Speedbagger? Speedbagger. Julius Harris. That guy's been in a ton of things. I mean, I remember him in one of the James Bond movies. I think he was in Superfly and one of the Shaft movies. And I remember he was Bow in the 76 King Kong,
Starting point is 00:20:12 on Jeff Bridges. He was in that and a bunch of TV shows, man. But yeah, Julius. He's a lot of star. Yeah. He'd be, out of everybody in this, he's been done the most. but I mean there wasn't really much
Starting point is 00:20:31 to the story that they were the not Griffin Gary Lee the leader of the roller boys he was always had his propaganda videos or whatever going out to everybody
Starting point is 00:20:43 talking about the day of the rope basically for what he was saying this is the the roller boys are going to take over we're going to be the new law we're going to be the new government or whatever that's what
Starting point is 00:20:57 they were kind of pushing. But the day of the rope turned out to be, it was some kind of stuff that they were some, what does it say here? The day of the rope is coming, rope turns out to be a toxic misaditive developed by the rollerboys, which gradually renders any of its users sterile.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So, pour a little of the green fund dip in there. Yeah, and it's either the green or the blue. But, so, I mean, I was kind of buying into what he was saying, but then when we figure out what the rope was, I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:33 oh, that's all he's doing. So he wanted a pure America. So he wanted to just wipe out, not wipe out, but kind of just make everyone else, like not be able to have kids. And the roller boys are probably the only ones that can, uh,
Starting point is 00:21:53 make babies, I guess, with all, with all the ladies. Because Gary, Lee's rule for the roller boys was nobody can do missed so because none of them were doing it that's why gave milty a nice little smack when you found out yeah i was like all right well no i don't know how much milty was smoking but i obviously he maybe maybe he was sterile i don't know
Starting point is 00:22:18 but there was a lot of people out there doing it because everybody was going nuts uh for it even the old hobos that were sitting around. There was a lot of like homeless camps where everybody. Because that one scene when Griffin, Corey Haim, he was a pizza delivery guy for Pinkies, pizza. And every time he went out to deliver pizzas, his boss made him take machine gun.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I don't know if I need the job that bad. If I got to take a fucking AK with me to deliver a pizza in a van where there's like steel grates over the windows. Yeah, I was I was like, all right. I mean, who's ordering these pizzas that? I just because when he delivers a pizza to this, I guess, look like a concentration camp or something. And it's heavily armed with guards all around it. I don't know if these people were just prisoners there and the security guys ordered a pizza
Starting point is 00:23:28 because when he goes to deliver it, his Griffin or Miltie is Griffin's brother. He was sitting in the van and he looked at the window and he saw this little girl and he felt sorry for her. So he got out and was going to give her a slice of pizza, but the security was ready to kill him because he was talking to the people. there. So I don't, I didn't understand why all those people were in there because we never really go back to them. They just show them in that one scene. Yeah, they don't really explain all that. Why, you know, our Griffin and Miltie allowed to, you know, live their lives outside of these camps and these people have to basically live in inside these confined, caged areas. They never, they never really got into that. Yeah, so I just, it seemed like everybody looked homeless other than the roller boys, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I didn't get exactly what was that. Because there was a lot of things in this. If you listen to the news that they're talking on the radio or TV, as they're saying that the armed forces are on strike in Washington because something was going on there. the great crash of the economic catastrophe triggered a greed in the previous generations and was it Harvard it moved to me
Starting point is 00:25:01 Harvard moved to Japan and uh I think Germany bought Israel or I don't know there was there's a bunch of things going on all over the world it's not just it wasn't just happening here in America
Starting point is 00:25:16 see I liked all that because that is really telling you especially what was going on there. It really showed you how bad times was, but I was just like the overall look of it, it didn't really seem like anybody was hurting for money because everybody was buying mist and pizzas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So I don't, I don't know what was going on. So, yeah, it was, it was weird. I mean, it was, Again, everybody looked homeless, but yeah, you're buying pizza and everyone's got guns and everyone's got money to buy mist. I don't know. This, this, I wouldn't want to live in this world because it was out of control. Yeah. The police were still there because they were still trying to crack down on everything.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But it just seems like they were being overrunned by the roller boys and everybody else. The police chief did drop a line saying he didn't, he didn't, uh, when, uh, they were talking about witness protection. Griffin wanted it somewhere nice for him and his brother to go to. He was like, we don't even got money to put uniforms on our, on our officers. So they were, they were hurting too. Yeah. So I don't know. Everyone, well, the detectives, I mean, well, other than, uh, Patricia Arquette's character, she was running around looking all good. and the main detectives, they seem to have suits on.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But there was two other dudes that were detectives. They look, I don't like they were bus driver. I don't know what they were. Those two guys that were running around, they were helping Patricia Arquette's character because they were the guys in the van
Starting point is 00:27:22 listening to her as she goes in and try to infiltrate the roller boy. going to their parties and everything. She was obviously bugged and they were listening to all her stuff. But, I mean, they got her to talk to Griffin.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And because she, every time she saw Griffin, she was like, I needed, I need to give me some miss. Do you have any? And they were always kind of playing games. They'd be making out for a minute. And he hooked up with her at a party and pulled her panties off,
Starting point is 00:27:51 but didn't want to give her nothing and just threw her panties at her on the floor. And then later on, she got him and wherever they were and she took his boxes off and threw him in his face, now we're even and I don't know what was going on with them.
Starting point is 00:28:08 All why this is all going on, the roller boys are still trying to take over the world in the day of the rope. And there is other gangs that you barely see in this movie. Were they? Yeah, the one
Starting point is 00:28:27 gang. that had like leather coats on that were spray painted and they had like I guess they weren't cool because they didn't have roller blades or so I don't know but these gangs reminded me of um class 99 that and if you've seen uh death wish three when bronson goes back to new york and they're running around with crazy clothes and paint on their face what was the main guy that was kind of balding?
Starting point is 00:29:02 He had that line painted down his forehead. I don't know. I just remember him all drunk in Superman 3. And he was Chuck, Chuck Cunningham, in the very first few episodes of Happy Days when Richie had a brother that just obviously just disappeared and they never mentioned him again. But, yeah, what the hell was his name?
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's going to bug me. we might have to do we might have to dive into the death wish movies at some point yeah because uh when they when they get into the sequels they get crazy yeah i think the first two were we're kind of serious and then the third one just went off the rails because that was i think cannon took over that's when uh this one shot uh charlie bronson he's pulling out bazookas and stuff like that Gavin O. Early, I think that was his name. He was a fraker. Oh, okay. I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I just remember him looking stupid with his bald head. I think what's his name pops up in there, if I remember correctly. Alex Winter. Bill, Bill and Ted. Yeah, he was one of the. Hoodlems or whatever. Yeah, he's got, I mean. looking at a picture of them it's a red line with two black lines going across yeah that's it
Starting point is 00:30:33 no idea like this whole gang had that mark on their forehead i mean is that is that what they think gangs are supposed to be i don't i don't know who's the death wish three i always wonder that like the people that do wardrobe and makeup like do they just get together and like what do gangs look like in the future I mean, look at the warriors. I mean, back then in 79, I was like, oh, man, this is Austin. There's something cool about the warriors, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But then when you go to like class in 1999, some of them have like fake eyelashes on, just on one eye and stuff like that. Yeah, like, like clockwork orange. I mean, does that gang look cool? I mean, look cool. I don't, I don't know. I mean, a lot of these, especially in the 80s and 70s and all that, when they were making these futuristic gang movies, I assume. See, like, Mad Max makes sense because their outfits are just whatever they can find.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah. I mean, they looked cool. I mean, and Mad Max in the first one, we'll eventually dive into those as well. That is just straight biker gang. But Road Warrior, I mean, post-pacalyptic film. that's when they yeah where they just whatever they could find and I guess assless chaps
Starting point is 00:32:03 and all that was the only thing they could find that survived the bombs and I don't know what was going on there but that was awesome his favorite pants they looked cool and the bronze how they how badass they looked in their leather
Starting point is 00:32:18 police uniforms I mean they all looked rough and tough but I mean these roller boys they do not look rough and tough they just they were just a bunch pretty boys. And where are they getting these outfits from? Does they buying
Starting point is 00:32:31 them wholesale or? I assume there's still some kind of structure going on. I mean, if there's still a police force and they're still trying to crack down on drugs and everything but I don't know. That was the main thing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 This whole movie was just about getting Griffin to go infiltrate the roller boys. to stop or find out how they're making this drug and stop it. That was it. Which he really didn't do. They kind of just took him there.
Starting point is 00:33:09 He didn't have to do no sneaking around or anything. Yeah, because he just, well, Griffin, Gary Lee and Griffin were friends before. So they knew each other. So I think that was pretty much how Griffin was able to just basically join up. But he had to go through the initiation. I mentioned it earlier. They go to the... Gary Lee was trying to buy some machine guns from some Asian company or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But I guess that guy didn't want to come down on his price. So Gary Lee took Griffin and these two other guys and wanted to be roller boys and told them to say, look, This is the most heavily guarded factory on the docks. And all you got to do is skate through it without getting caught by security. Steal somebody's ID badge because I guess they were able to get through all the doors. Grab one of those and make it to the other side where we'll meet you. And whoever is the first one to get through it with a badge, you'll be a roller boy. So brand new trench coat and suspenders.
Starting point is 00:34:23 this is what made me laugh it was like gary lee said this was the most heavy guarded security place they just rolled right through there was no kind of gate no nothing one security guard i was just like oh and i was like you can't do that stop and then they just started shooting at them but the first guy gets shot or the last guy because griffin and whoever else kind of get through really quick, but the dude that was there at the end, he gets blasted in the back with a machine gun. And nobody, all these
Starting point is 00:35:01 if they're being security guards and it's the most guarded place, only one of them could shoot because he was the only one that got the shot that guy. Everyone else, machine guns going off everywhere. And it's not like these guys are hiding behind things as they're rolling
Starting point is 00:35:16 in, they're all out in the wide open. Like 10 guys with machine guns and they still can't hit them. Then there would be no movie. They eventually get all the way through. Griffin grabs an ID badge off this lady, and they make it through to the other side. Gary Lee's, and the truck wasn't even like anywhere far.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It was like right on the other side of the gate. Because he gets a rocket launcher, shoots, it blows up the gate. And then they go running through, Griffin hops over the little fence that fell down. The next guy kind of hops, but his roller blade catches it and he falls. But then he gets up. Griffin actually made it to the van first, jumped in, gave Gary Lee that little ID card thing.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And that other guy was skating up behind way, way, wait, wait. And then Gary Lee just blast him. And then what's the name? Miltie was with him, too. Griffin's little brother And then when Griffin gives Gary Lee the badge He just kind of looks at it and just throws it
Starting point is 00:36:26 It throws it like they didn't even need it I don't know but So yeah Griffin he's a roller boy He gets his trench coat and his suspenders And I assume some A new pair of rollerblades And They're trying to hype him up
Starting point is 00:36:41 With the day of the rope stuff And then they finally Able to trust them enough to go Okay this is where we're making them miss and he sees the whole layout, which is basically nothing. It's a big warehouse,
Starting point is 00:36:54 but there's nothing in it, but there's trailer where they're making the mist. But there's one roller void that does not trust him. Yeah, that was... Bull, boonkel. He should have trusted him because earlier in the film,
Starting point is 00:37:13 when Griffin was delivering pizza, they're passing, uh, I think that looked like um that church from uh they live it looked like i think it was there i'm not i can't be sure of one but they're driving by it's on fire and they see some guy in there screaming ah me let me get out so griffin like backs up and crashes through the wall in the pizza van and gets that guy out and that guy was bullwinkle he was in there um
Starting point is 00:37:45 why why was he in there was it another game territory or was it was a miss a missed house okay that guy was so unappreciative because you cut to the next scene where we're Gary Lee's telling him Bullwinkle wants to thank you for saving him and he was so like yeah I guess I owe you I was like you unappreciated bitch can leave you in that next time yeah I mean if anyone he should have been on all over uh Griffin's nuts and like man, thank you, bro. He just, he just was, yeah, ungrateful.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He should have been like the, what was that movie? We reviewed Stone Cold, how the, stone cold had the one biker guy that was like, oh, he's cool, he's cool. That should have been Boehinkle. And the other guy, Bango, should have been the suspicious one. Yeah, because Bingo, yeah, now it worked better because Bango seemed like he didn't give a fuck. he was just partying and having a good time and just being a roller boy.
Starting point is 00:38:51 But yeah, Bullwinkle just didn't trust Griffin. I mean, he kept telling Gary Lee and Gary Lee wasn't like, hey man, I know this guy.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Don't worry about it. But yeah, but fucking Bullwinkle just kept giving him the side eye, those black eyes and he would skate by him and bump him.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So that was always that, that thing. And then once the police were involved, and what's in the name, Milty's doing the mist and speedbagger. They were actually living on his property in a tent.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And he was kind of, he was telling them just stay away from the rollerboys because they're bad news. And Griffin, he, he stayed away from him, but he knew Gary Lee and everything. So that's why they kept trying to get him. But after,
Starting point is 00:39:47 Griffin was a roller boy. They would go around and basically strong arm everybody for protection money, I assume, because they went to pinkies and got money from him. And then they went to speedbagger and got money from him. And at one scene where they kidnapped some guy
Starting point is 00:40:06 and had a hood over his head and they were roller boys who were going around a circle and punching them and kicking him and beating him and beating him up. And Griffin was right in there. Yeah. and punching him and all that. When they stopped and they pulled the little bag off his head, it was speedbacker.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And then they was like, oh, no, get away from him. And, um, bowling calls. Like, I knew it. I know you couldn't be trusted. I was like, how couldn't it be trusted? You just beat up somebody that he was close to. And I don't know. I didn't understand what he did at that in that scene.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It was like, I knew you couldn't be trusted. trusted. Yeah, it was like the inward was flying out of out of a couple of them. But yeah, I was I mean, and I know why they did it. They did they, they were beating them up just because it was Griffin's friend. So, but he didn't, he didn't die. He was all right. He kind of just took his lumps and he even said it goes, I told you those guys were bad, bad news and all this. So Griffin was just getting mad. So he finally, he was, he did get in with the cops. He was telling him, look, all right, I'll get in there, I'll find out what's going on. And he did.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And then they kind of made a plan. All right, Griffin was supposed to go into that trailer. It was the little drug mist trailer. The only one that had the, it was like a palm reader. And the only one that it read was Gary Lee's hand. So he had to be there to open it up. So they trusted Griffin and to be in there with the, But Bango was with him.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But Griffin was like, no, man, I can do it by myself. You can trust me. And I guess they didn't. So they let Bango go in there. So they were making mist and there was a cooler or a beer or whatever. And Bango was just sitting in there getting drunk. And he did show Griffin how to make it.
Starting point is 00:42:06 But they didn't even make any. If anything, they were just in there. Because then here came, here came the police. They obviously got through all the security. I don't know how many guys. are outside and they made it in they blew up the door.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Oh, they, um, in the, in the, in the little mist trailer, uh, they had a, um, a system just in case, uh, cops or whatever showed up. And, and so it was like these two big things full of acid and it was able to like flush through the system and just burn and kill all the, the, the evidence of, of the mist making drugs. So they wouldn't be. It wouldn't do anything to the, to the machines,
Starting point is 00:42:51 but it would just basically kill all the, the materials for the, for the mist. So they couldn't get busted. But when, uh, the cops came in and they were shooting up, Bango heard it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And then he kind of turned to Griffin. I knew it. And then Griffin was weak. He hit him in the head with a pipe a couple times. And then Bango just got up and he just beat his, beat his ass. Yeah, you can't knock somebody down with a pipe and then let them get back up.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, if you're going to hit someone with a pipe in the head, you're going to keep hitting them until they don't get up them. But he gets up and he's just throwing Griffin all around the room like he's like a child. He was, I think he was about to shoot him, but then the doors blew up.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And then the two detectives that were helping Patricia Arquette's character, Detective Casey, They came busting in. And, no, they, you know, they blew up the door. They came in and they shot, they shot Bango. And then we find out that they were, they were, they were robbing all the mist. Because I believe those are the guys that blew up that mist, a house in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Where, where, uh, the bullwinkle was. Yeah, Griffin put it all together without. even really thinking about it. He was like, it was you guys. And they were like, yeah, you're damn right. We just want the money. I was like, oh, my God. So they were in there.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But then the rest of the cops came in and blasted the, did they? No, they didn't kill. No, they did. They killed those two. What's her name came in? Patricia Arquez. She came in and blasted those guys.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Big shotgun. Yeah, she killed them. and I was say The shotgun was kind of badass Saved Griffin So the cops and everyone got out But then here come the roller boys The whole crew of them
Starting point is 00:44:55 And they all had machine guns Uh So Gary Lee was like I didn't want to believe it I should have listened to everybody And now fuck you We're going to kill you
Starting point is 00:45:08 And then there was a big old shootout With the cops Yeah where nobody's hiding behind nothing They're just standing upright shooting at each other. And missing. I mean, some of the guy,
Starting point is 00:45:20 well, let me go back a little bit. We'll come back to that whole bust. They, the roller boys were just trying to get rid of the other competition, the other gangs. There was a scene where they all just came rolling into this, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:32 a gang compound and came jumping in, jumping over everything with machine guns and just started killing everybody. They were throwing bombs and blowing things up. Uh, because there was one scene where, one of the roller boys was sitting there on the ground, ah, screaming and his leg was blown off. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I did like this scene, though, because even though they're in the middle of a gang war, when they're like jumping flying through the air, they're still trying to go for style points the way they're flying through air. Well, you got to look good, especially with your trench coat, flapping in the breeze while you're shooting your machine gun
Starting point is 00:46:10 in the air out, just like, oh, my God, what's happening here? Who wrote this movie? It was written by W. Peter Liff or whatever. Anyway, yeah, so that whole gang war was funny. And I assumed they killed all that gang to eliminate them. There was another gang that they kind of got into it with because there was a shootout scene. Those guys on the dirt bikes.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I don't know. I guess they were the dirt bike boys or something. I don't know. Dirt bikes can't stand up to rollerblades. Uh-uh. So back to the cops and the roller boys fighting. Yeah, there was a big old shootout. I assume, no, Griffin, I know Gary Lee kind of got away.
Starting point is 00:46:56 And then he was chasing Griffin. Gary Lee had a machine gun and Griffin was just hauling ass and they were skating after each other. They kind of got into a little little scuffle at the end. But then did he knock him out? I don't remember. Yeah, he was going to kill him. And then he was like, I'm not like you. And then he put the gun down.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And then Gary Lee tried to pull the knife out of the boot, or not to boot the rollerblade because they're always wearing rollerblades. Trying to pull the knife out. And that's when, that's when Griffin knocked him out. It was like, not like you, but I'm not stupid either. something like that yeah because when they were
Starting point is 00:47:49 riding around when Gary Lee was chasing him he was shooting at Griffin and he shot some I don't know if there were some kind of tanks because they blew up and there was a big huge explosion and Corey Griffin
Starting point is 00:48:07 goes flying and falls down okay I'm getting to the end oh Yeah, so they're fighting. Griffin does or Gary Lee doesn't have his machine gun anymore. He's got a pistol and he's just still chasing after Griffin. But Griffin gets to this pole and does a 6-1-9, swings around and kicks Gary Lee in the face.
Starting point is 00:48:31 That was cool. Yeah, and he lost the gun. So, Miltie comes running in and picks up the gun and throws it to Griffin. As Miltie's like, just kill him, shoot him. You got him. but then the griff was like i'm not like you and yeah while he's doing that he's trying to he's going to pull out this big blade out of his uh roller blade but then uh griffin just kind of pistol whips him and then that's it for him because the police come in and arrest him and
Starting point is 00:49:06 everybody leaves on griffin's motor home yeah i mean justice is done uh uh Gary Lee's going to jail, but he's giving him that look kind of like, I'll be back. I was kind of hoping for like another one because, yeah. Go ahead. I think that Gary Lee could have some kind of pull to get out. Maybe you can't be this big, huge organized, rich, rich boy, rollerblade gang and not have some kind of lawyers. I mean, there's obviously the law is still there. when he's in prison
Starting point is 00:49:46 now I stopped it once the oh there's a scene where his lawyer is talking to him in prison and because I guess Griffin and everybody are going to happily move to Portland Oregon
Starting point is 00:50:00 and then you cut to prison where Griffin's talking to his lawyer telling him we need to set up shop in Oregon because that's where he's going to increase our investment yeah right there I must have missed this part
Starting point is 00:50:15 Okay, yeah That's where he's going All right everyone See like I said The big rich boy Gang He's in jail somewhere But his cell is all nice
Starting point is 00:50:32 There's a computer in there Tables he's in his all nice White Miami Pimp Suit There's graffiti like a sunset and palm trees or whatever graffiti on the wall and yeah
Starting point is 00:50:51 I do okay I do remember this when they were talking about they were going to set up in Oregon and yeah because that's where he's going I was like you know because Griffin yeah the roll boys bought him a nice big motor home state of the yard motor home because before
Starting point is 00:51:10 him and his brother were sleeping in tent. So yeah, the Speedbagger, Casey, Griffin, and Milty are all driving up on the coast. Did she just quit being a detective?
Starting point is 00:51:23 I assume unless she's on vacation. I don't know. I don't think she would have gave up her graer for some. And did Speedbagger sell his home? I guess. I don't know. Maybe you just felt he didn't feel safe there.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I mean, did they catch all the roller boys? I don't know. I want to say if they didn't get killed, maybe some of them got away. I know Casey blew a lot of them away in the shootout scene with her shotgun. She never reloaded. Yeah, and that's, I know we were all over the place on this one, everyone, but this movie was,
Starting point is 00:52:01 it's worth a watch. I mean, I didn't hate it. It just made me laugh and everything. And I am a Corey Haim fan, and I love Patricia Arquette. So, I would definitely appreciate it. if they put this on a Bluroy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:14 I'd buy it because it's on YouTube, everyone, so if you want to, the whole movie is on there and it's pretty clear. So it's not 4K or anything,
Starting point is 00:52:23 but... This is a good copy. Yeah. I mean, I checked, I got Amazon and all that. I think you can rent it, but,
Starting point is 00:52:30 you don't want to rent it. Everyone's got YouTube. But, I mean, it was, I see what they were trying to do. They were trying to make a futuristic gang movie.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And, I assume at this time roller blades was the was the craze so I'll be because I mean even still man there's out of all these these movies like this with these gangs like the warriors I was just kind of a regular gang movie thrashing that was the daggers was a gang and they were on skateboards um I think it was like skate town USA there was um this this was in the 7th
Starting point is 00:53:10 there was a good roller skaters and then there was this bad gang of roller skaters led by the late and great Patrick Swayze. He was the leader of that bad roller skate gang and I don't know. Movies like this throughout time, there was always something where everybody and they had 90s rollerblades were big and why not put out a rollerblade gang movie. surprised nobody's put out what's the thing the little kids be riding
Starting point is 00:53:47 the little scooters oh the razors yeah like post-apocalyptic movie where people's got racers of scooters and yeah they should yeah
Starting point is 00:54:01 someone listen to make this make a a gang of nice guys on the razors and the bad gang will be guys with Peles. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Make that movie so, buddy. But put our names in the credits. We want that check too. But, I mean, I enjoyed this film. I mean, it was just another gang movie. I mean, there's a bunch of them. I mean, you can go back into the black and white days. There was gang movies then.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And I assume they're going to remake the Warriors. They keep talking about it. I don't want them to. But, yeah, we even had the, the, the punk rock gang in class of 1994 and then the futuristic punk gang or whatever the hell they were in class of 1999. Oh, the black hearts. Yeah, I avoid that one, everyone. I say watch it because it's so bad it's good.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. I don't know. All right. before we get to your pick streaming recommendation um go ahead let me find some I don't know where it's streaming
Starting point is 00:55:18 but you can watch clips of it on YouTube I've been watching all the clips um shit I don't even know what it's called it's an A&E show where uh WWE is trying to get like the old like memorabilia and artifacts of certain wrestlers to display in their museum
Starting point is 00:55:36 I probably should have looked it up what it's called but it's really interesting and they get like the last little clip I watched they had Brutis de barber beef cake go with them because they were looking for the shears that he used to have and they track down the pieces and then they try to authenticate them
Starting point is 00:56:00 and then they offer the people you know you know money or some kind of deal to where they can get into the museum and it's really interesting a lot of a lot of good stories a lot of a lot of good memories because uh they also were looking for uh because he i don't know if you remember when he was in the tag team the dream team of greg hammered valent they were looking for gregg's uh robe that he he had the sparkly robe with the big hammer on the back they were looking for that too and there was they not just did they not keep any of this stuff or
Starting point is 00:56:36 if they just well like the one I gotta see if they're they're showing the full episode somewhere because the one I was really interested in was uh they had Rick Flair and they were looking for the black butterfly robe that he wore and the 92 Royal Rumble that he won
Starting point is 00:56:53 is this the one when they go into um and they find all undertaker's gear yeah okay I see now the one guy was the he's a wrestler now but he was a host They got a top dollar. Everybody keeps laughing at because he tried to suicide dive at the ring and cut the rope and flipped over. He's the host.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Oh, okay. But yeah, they're looking for Rick's robe and he mentioned that he's had like ex-wives keep his shit and other stuff's been stolen out of the locker room. And that whole episode they were looking for the black butterfly robe that he wore. Okay. So watch those. I only seen that one with The Undertaker. I didn't see any of the other ones. But all right, I got something. This is one that came out last year.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I liked it. A lot of people did. I thought it was good. I bought the Blu-ray. This is a 2022's fall. It's streaming on stars. Stranded 2,000 feet at the top of a remote, abandoned radio tower. Two expert climbers were the experts?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Putting an ultimate test as a desperately fight to survive. elements, a lack of supplies, and vertigo, including heights. Did you see this one? Yeah, I didn't get to see it in a theater. I wish I did. Yeah, me too. I watched it on my phone. But even still, I was still dizzy watching it.
Starting point is 00:58:22 So I liked it. Watch fall, but don't watch float. I think it's called hashtag float. I think I talked about it on the main show a couple, couple episodes ago. it's kind of like the same premise like they get together every year and they float on intertubes down the river and camp out and somebody dies and they go back like the next year to like celebrate his life and like stuff happens
Starting point is 00:58:51 probably if I if I would have seen it last year would have been in my bottom three movies of the year all right I trust you I'll stay away from me Yeah. I got a movie. I know I did it on my show. I don't know if we ever did it. Have we ever done The Principal?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Oh, no. I've been wanting to do that one. All right. That's a, come back next week, everyone. We are going to go to get back in the Wayback Machine and go back to 1987 for Jim Belushi and Academy Award winner, Lou Gosser Jr.'s, the principal. At the toughest high school in town, the biggest troublemaker is the principal. I
Starting point is 00:59:35 well I don't want to go we'll get into it but yeah how is life with that one guy if you have a a YouTube Prime
Starting point is 00:59:45 it's streaming on there and Amazon Prime it's streaming is it no YouTube Premium I think that's what it is that's it's on there and it is streaming on Amazon Prime
Starting point is 00:59:58 so White Zach wife Zach a shit White Zach a shit his name was too long to say oh yeah we'll get into this one because I got a lot to say about this film but yeah come back next week
Starting point is 01:00:13 for the principal that's gonna be my pick again YouTube premium or Amazon Prime it's streaming on there as well oh that WWE A&E show is called WWE Most Wanted Treasures
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