The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #41: Lean On Me (1989)

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

This episode Brian and Nez make a visit to East Side High to help out Principal Joe Clark in the 1989 drama classic LEAN ON ME.   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.face...book.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Now, go in and jump. Jump! No, I don't want to kill myself. I'm back to another episode of THR present streamfeans. I'm your host Brian. And, of course, always with me. This is my brother, Nez.
Starting point is 00:01:09 What's up, man? Yo, man. We're back, everyone. Thanks, everyone listening to the action returns. I know it took us forever, but we're back. Give you more.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Hey, you're getting stream things. I think, what, this would be the third one in about a month? I think so. Yeah. We did two back to back.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah. Who was it the principal? What was the other one? Oh, was it Roller Boys or? Yeah. That's about 90s classic. shout out to Corey Ane.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Rest of peace. We still got to do that one review. The VHS one. Shit, I wish I still had that record. I might have it. I don't know. I don't know what was happening.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I must have just been tired. I don't know what was happening with me because I was going with it. I was like, did they mention him in the movie? they must have I don't even remember I need to rewatch that whole movie I don't even remember any of it now
Starting point is 00:02:23 I still didn't even watch the 99 I didn't watch that one yeah that one's takes a little bit of a dip after 94 I still need to watch
Starting point is 00:02:38 um was it Talesman the Hood 3 was there a third one uh with um Tony Todd? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I think that's the third one. It wasn't Keith David and the second one? Yeah, not David Keith. Yeah. But we are here to talk about 1989.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yep, 89's Lean on me. This is the school no one cared about. We are in a big of emergency base and my word is long. are the kids no one wanted.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And the law says, do whatever you have to. This is the man who's giving them all an education. Morgan Freeman stars in the true story of Joe Clark from the director of Rocky and the Karate Kid. Lean on Me, read in PG-13. Starts Friday, March 3rd at a theater near you. Drama action is what is listed on Google. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:45 all them action scenes going on. Well, there was some in the beginning. When he had his bat and he was like, you can call me Batman. All right, Google, you're killing me here. All right. In this fact-based film, a New Jersey superintendent, Dr. Frank Napier, watches helplessly as Eastside High becomes the lowest ranked school in the state, with nowhere else to turn Dr. Napier and Liz Maverick ex-teacher, Joe Clark, to take over as principal of the declining school.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Unfortunately for Clark, before he can focus on improving the student body's state exam scores, he has to somehow rid the school of its gang and narcotics problem. All right. IMDB, the dedicated but tyrannical Joe Clark is appointed the principal. of a decaying intercity school he is determined to improve by any and all means and this
Starting point is 00:04:52 stars of course the legendary Morgan Freeman Beverly Todd Robert I always mess up his last name Google Dr. Napier he played Dr. Napier Benson
Starting point is 00:05:10 are you old for worse Alan North Lynn Thigpin Robin Bartlett Michael Beach Ethan Phillips Sandra Reeves Phillips my boy where is he at
Starting point is 00:05:26 he's way down the cast list steel yeah damn where is he yeah put him way down Tony Todd was in here yeah as Mr. Mr. Wright
Starting point is 00:05:43 or you're looking for candy man bitch yeah are you even in the cast list Michael Imperialioli from Sopranos fame Was one of the kids that got kicked out Spider
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah He had a name George Yeah where is steel I know they didn't do my boy like that He's not even listed I was looking on Wikipedia and I saw him I was looking on our MDV
Starting point is 00:06:26 He is he's a Germaine Hopkins Thomas Sams. Yeah, aka Huggy. Steel. Everyone. Yeah, he got into some beef.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Trying to buy 200 pounds of weed from undercover cop. Yeah, that's always a bad idea. They're about to give him five years. I was like, damn, five years just for weed? Damn.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And then he I think he tried to buy more weed, no, he got pulled over. And he had, I think he had like five pounds of weed in his trunk or something. And they were going to just throw the book at him. But then they were like, man, she's just weed and glass them on the wrist. Some people just shouldn't be doing shit. If you already got busted for once, man, then don't do it again.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You know, some people got to learn a hard way. I guess, man. I think he might went to jail for a little while, but he didn't go to, he was about to go to prison, but they didn't, they didn't send him in prison.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And after that second time, he got supervised probation. I was like, all right, well, that's better than going to jail. I had to read up on all this, everyone.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I didn't, I didn't just pull this out my ass. I remember what it happened. I didn't. When you said something happened to him, I was like, Damn, what happened? I was glad to look it up.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, because I remember, I remember him getting in trouble. And then when he got in trouble the second time, I was like the second time for weed. Yeah. Damn. It was like, damn. What was the, not Kid Ray? What was the drug dealer's name? Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:08:22 This is great podcasting because I forgot. Because I don't know if he had a name or not. I mean, because Kid Ray was one of his. crew so because he at least had a few lines. I don't know if Kid Ray was one of his crew. He was trying to be. Yeah, until he got smacked up. I think
Starting point is 00:08:42 because, I don't know, maybe he came up short. Yeah, he didn't have his money. He was trying to buy all them gold chains and nice clothes and trying to, what do he say? What did he say? What did you tell him, Mr. Clark? He was trying to look apart.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yep. Kid Ray. That was the late 80s, everyone. especially Spider. I mean, he's on. I know he's Christopher on a soprano. I just started watching that for the first time. It's one of them was my probably top three all-time favorite shows.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm still on the first season, man. But it's pretty good, man. I like what's going on. Yeah, it really picks up after, after you, once you get into the second season. All right. Yeah, I don't know what that guy's name was. Wasn't Clarence, was it? Tyrone
Starting point is 00:09:35 Jackson No, that was one of the other guys I don't know why eight mile popped in my head He was one of the dudes That was hanging out He was doing the impressions of The class clown Yeah, that guy
Starting point is 00:09:54 Well, I think he was the one dude That was supposed to be the Nice clean cut kid student body president but this one girl pregnant. Yeah, he's on the knocked up what's her name? Canisha. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Karen Molina White. Is that her? Yeah. She gets looking at her IMDB. She looks totally different
Starting point is 00:10:28 now. All right, man, I guess I don't look like I did in 89, everyone. So, I wish I did. I think I forgot to say this is directed by John G. Alidson, written by Michael Schiffer.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And music was done by Bill Conti. So next. He's got directed Rockies? Yeah. And karate kids? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 This is the news to me, everyone. You didn't know that? No. I had to I was like, damn. shitty director hell of shit. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:11:14 everyone. This is hell of news and me. Fuck, he did Rocky. Karate Kid 2 and 3. Rocky 5. A.k.a. Creed 3. Well, alert. Now neighbors, not the new neighbor is. Old one from 81.
Starting point is 00:11:37 with the late grade John Volusci and Dan Aykroyd Damn one night in heaven He directed that too fuck Is this guy still alive? I No he passed in 2017
Starting point is 00:11:53 He's got a nice filmography Yeah he does shit Um Did you watch uh Hood's uh prim cinema Prim cinema for this one I think I did.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I don't remember that one as much. He tore this one apart. He was like, man, he goes, who wrote this? He goes, that's not even how schools be, you know, as he was going off on this show. Oh, man. I saw this on, I rented it. I had to have been in the 90s when I, when I seen it. because I was up here where I live now when I just visited and I wasn't married.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It was before I was married. We went and ran in movies and my wife or my wife, she wanted to watch it. So I'm cool. That was the first time I'd seen this movie. And I've always loved this movie. I thought it was really good. I liked this type of stories. But I did do some reading on it.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They were saying that this, they kind of, Hollywood did it up and like most of this didn't happen most of this didn't happen you mean he didn't become Batman I don't know I don't know about that but I guess a lot of it they were saying it didn't didn't happen but block I don't know I wasn't which plays with his clipboard but I I've seen it just multiple times I love this movie it was really good I liked what was going on and the whole story. Morgan Freeman, man, he's good and
Starting point is 00:13:44 everything he's in. So this is a younger Morgan Freeman. So he was awesome. I hate the mom in this the Lynn Dick Penn.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah, her. She played Leona Barrett. I don't know who her kid was. Every time I watch this movie and like when I watch this movie with my wife, we're always like, who the fuck was her kid? It was one of the kids that got kicked out. It was probably, uh,
Starting point is 00:14:17 we'll just call him Clarence, the drug dealer. He had a plan though. Well, he was going to the Air Force. Yeah, you ain't nothing money. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:32 this movie was awesome, man. I love this movie. When was the first time he saw it? Probably, probably the same time you did. Uh, this was a rent.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I think I was Before I was with my wife I met her through her family I used to as a kid used to hang out with her brother and her cousins And used to go to her aunt's house and We used to like during the weekends go rent videos And this was one of the videos We rented and we just kind of blown away
Starting point is 00:15:05 Because You know the I think you know the they label it as drama. I've never heard it labeled as action. But being it labeled as drama, you know, we were just kind of like, we don't want to watch it. But when we got into it, we were like, this is hell of good. The acting's solid in it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You know, there's a good message in it. Joe Clark kind of reminds me of my high school vice principal because he was kind of, I don't want to say, I'm DB labeled him tyrant. But he kind of he kind of did things his own way to get shit done and it was sometimes not Not looked good upon from the school board, but You know, we had we had some trouble makers at our school You know now my principals were soft Well my my vice president, he wasn't Batman. He was a pool cute man. He had the
Starting point is 00:16:06 The thicker end of the pool cube that that he had to, that story enough for another time. I do remember the first elementary school I went to, Bella Vista in Oakland. I cannot remember the principal's name. He was older white gentleman. I remember him being nice, but I remember I went into his office one time.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I wasn't in trouble. And I was looking around and he's got the principal in his suit with a big giant fancy wood desk. He's got little plaques and things on that thing. There's awards he's earned. I don't know, principal of the year or whatever. But he had a huge paddle. A discipline paddle.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I think it said discipline on it or something like that. And I don't know. I just maybe just hung it on the wall as a joke. I don't know. I don't ever remember hearing anyone getting hit with that thing. But different times, everyone, because then that's cool. That was the time. I remember getting hit in the hand with a ruler or also a pointer stick, those wooden ones.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And I remember my kindergarten teacher, if we were acting up, what the hell is her name? Mrs. Predivik, white lady, kind of a big, heavy set lady. I remember I was, I know we were doing a test. finished it and I flipped the paper over and I was just kind of just drawing on the back. I basically just traced whatever I could see through the paper. It was nothing offensive. It was just whatever some little sea monster or whatever. And she got hell of mad and like because she was like,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I told you to draw something, not trace. And she like grabbed my cheek and just pinched it and shook my head. I was like, damn. Different times, boys and girls. This is the back of the days when the T. just put their hands on you and hit you and all this. Oh, man. And the lady who hit me,
Starting point is 00:18:18 it was my second grade teacher, Miss Louis, Chinese lady. I don't remember what I did. I think I was just fucking up in class, and she made me walk up to her desk. She pulled her ruler out. Stick your hands out.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I was like, what did you? I said, put your hands out. So I had my, my hands out like palms up she went no knuckles up oh fuck whack wab of both hands i was like whoa bringing me back to my childhood with my mother it was always hold hold your hand out and you'd always flip your hands over and then it's like nope turn them around oh yeah this is when the teachers could grab you and discipline you if you were fucking up but can't do that now man
Starting point is 00:19:08 kids. Yeah. Times of change because it was like that when we were kids, but let your kid come home and say the teacher like yoked your kid up all crazy. Oh no, man.
Starting point is 00:19:23 All the videos I see, especially on Twitter school fights. You see the one where the girl broke the teacher's leg? She was like beating on her until she like fell over. And then she like, I guess when she fell over, she like broke her leg. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I seen the one that was two dudes were, sorry everyone, but two guys were arguing about something. One of them had like a hood over his head and his hoodie. And then I guess he was just swinging and the teacher tried to get in the way or stop it. And he hit the teacher in the head. You just see her kind of just stumble. And then this other student comes out of nowhere. and just bow drop that dude. The kid that was like, you have to fucking
Starting point is 00:20:11 teacher. Yeah. That shit ain't cool. He like clocked that one and then he threw the other dude on the ground. That ain't cool. He was yelling and the teacher went, hey, I know it wasn't cool. It's all right. I was like, damn. Yeah, man. That one made me kind of proud though.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah, I was like, good. He stepped up. Or those other ones when they're just fighting the teachers and everything. No. Only one, I never fought. any teachers. I mean, yeah, I'm fucked up in school and everything, but I didn't never threatened teachers or anything.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm not proud of it everyone, but I don't know if I've ever said this on any show, but I am there was a fight going on during school. And you know, fights break out, everyone just, ah, everyone crowds around and we're all hooting and hollering, cheering, for whoever. It's amazing how
Starting point is 00:21:01 that circle forms so quick. Yeah. So we're all in there and the dean. I can't remember his name. They called him Frosty, because he had, like, gray hair and gray mustache. He came in, and he was trying to be, he was bent over right in front of me. And he was trying to pull the two guys apart.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't know why I did it. I didn't, like, kick him. But he was, like, coming. He was leaning back towards me, and I held my foot up. And it, like, bumped him. And I might have shoved him a little. I'm like I said, it didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And he fell. He ran into your foot. Yeah, he ran into my foot. And then he fell on top of the guys. As soon as that happened, everybody went, whoosh,
Starting point is 00:21:52 just took off running. We all ran because the bell rang and we all just sitting sat in class. A couple periods later, some guy came with him. He said, Hey, man, I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:05 yeah, what's up? And he goes, I heard you. the dean. I was like, what? Who told you that? They were like, yeah, man, if I was saying you kicked the dean, because some guys were fighting and I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. But that's as far as it went. I mean, I was waiting to get called into the office.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I figured someone would have said it was me, but I don't know. I mean, it did get around because multiple people came up to me. Man, heard you kicked out. I was like, I don't know. Where you guys are getting that from? I didn't kick nobody. He ran into my foot. But this movie, man, it starts off with a punch, man. We see a nice school. East Side High. I think it was back in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then Joe Clark is working there. Mr. Clark, Margaret Freeman, his character. And he's just teaching the school. Well, it was all in this, back in the day when it was a nice school, predominantly white area and a bunch of white kids in his school. And then, uh, all white kids. He gets, uh, Benson. That's all I see him as everyone. He, uh, he comes into the class and tells Joe that, hey, man, these guys are, they're, they're having a meeting about the school.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I think it was like union stuff because that's what he said. Yeah. started saying so he goes in there and they were basically like they were just going to side with the school board and everything and I think it was a more just like teachers rights things instead of striking or whatever um Joe was Mr. Clark was trying to pull all the teachers together now we need they we need to stand together and stand strong my mom was a teacher she was educator and she had to strike many many times. Has she ever seen this?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Probably. Because I remember when the teachers went on strike and my mom was out there, picketing and everything. I supported my mom, but I still had to go to school. I mean, it was the law. It wasn't like, hey, teachers aren't there. We don't have to go to school. No, all the substitutes came in.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But anyway, so they were basically, those teachers were in there, were siding with the school board. And he was like, you know what? I'm out. Because then they made him go to another school. I think it was District 6 or whatever because they told him, because they knew he was going to be the one to stand up to the school board. Yeah, I think they made an agreement.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I think they gave into some of the demands, but he had to go. He had to go to another little school. I think it was just teaching the elementary school. Yeah, I was talking about sandbox problems and stuff like that. Yeah, so he was back in the hippie days. Everyone else was in suits and he wasn't. And he had the Afro. Prim said the sideways afro.
Starting point is 00:25:20 They have like a dashiki on? Yes. He's like, I'm out of here. And Benson's like, come on, man. He goes, nope. And he goes, those guys can get everything they wanted. And then flash forward 20 years to 19. I like how he put that dollar on that dude's head.
Starting point is 00:25:41 It was like pay bills. Because he told him, he was like, you guys are just selling out for money. So I'm out of here. I can't be a part of this. I'm going to go teach elementary kids. Because I don't know what class.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I think he had a history class when he was a teacher. So I loved how he just walked and just left the school. It was a nice, nice school, clean hallway, and then it just does that, uh, that little fade into to 20 years later and the school is just fucked up. It is like the apocalypse happened in that school was something. It looked like, um, Brandell and the principal. Shout out to everyone to listen to that one.
Starting point is 00:26:26 It looked like that's cool. It was just, or the school in, uh, class in 1984, I was just, just, just, just, a wreck spray paint everywhere. I mean, I don't know. Maybe there's schools like this in the U.S. Um, not in my schools are like this. Yeah. Even the, the worst school, um, from what I,
Starting point is 00:26:53 well, one of the worst schools in, uh, in Oakland. It was just because of the neighborhood in West Oakland, McClimins, a really bad neighborhood. Right in right in the hood. And I went to summer school there and I was like, oh, man, I didn't want to go because of where. I never, ever hung out in West Oakland just because of the area. And every time I had to go through there, man, I just skate through there as fast as I could. So I got to that school, I was expecting it to be this, before this movie came out.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I was expecting it to be like class in 1984 all fucked up and spray paint all over the place. Nope. It was just like a normal school. Everything there was no, of course is graffiti in the bathrooms, but like not on the walls or lockers or anything. So I was like, hmm. So movies, everyone. So I don't know, maybe East Side High, if this was really like that or that's where they dramatized it up. But yeah, the school was just a red.
Starting point is 00:28:00 and it just I think they picked a good song to start this movie off Guns and Roses, welcome to the juggle because that's exactly what it was and it's just, it was just chaos
Starting point is 00:28:14 in the halls and in the lunchroom everywhere that one drug dealer guy is walking around selling drugs all out in the open that kids are just throwing toilets to the
Starting point is 00:28:30 window and these girls were they just beating up that one girl in the bathroom and then tore her top off or were they just trying to rob her? They didn't really beat her up. They just tore her clothes off.
Starting point is 00:28:43 They were pushing her around and then they just tore her shirt off. That was fucked up because the principal or the vice principal. Well, I don't know if she was vice principal then. Mrs. Levis, I think that's her name. she was outside
Starting point is 00:29:03 because that girl came running out of the bathroom with top and titty's flopping and she kind of put her jacket over her and then they were like ah everyone laughing and screaming then one of those students was trying to hit on her
Starting point is 00:29:21 he was like what's up what's up I was like you're doing a good job of making this school look bad and they had that one white teacher up against the wall. He just looked scared. Like, you didn't even know what was happening. So, I mean, it was just, yeah, and there was just fights breaking out. Everyone just doing what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And the one drug dealer kid, he gets his drugs from one of the teachers because he got the scene where he's waiting for him at the side door. And he walks up and he opens up his briefcase. And it's just every drug imaginable. and he just gives him like a lot of cash and gets what he wants. And then he wrote, that was a teacher. He looked like a drug dealer. Well,
Starting point is 00:30:08 I always thought it was a teacher. He was a suit and tie. He looked like a teacher. He had like a business briefcase. He might have been because I'm watching it right now. He goes right into the school. Because whoever this guy, he kind of reminds me of that dude,
Starting point is 00:30:26 um, was it crazy? Kay and the first Tales from the Hood. Okay, I know. There was that guy that went to prison and everything. It looked like that guy, but I don't think it was
Starting point is 00:30:43 him. And he's walking around selling drugs. He goes up to steal. He's steal everyone. But his name is Thomas Sams, a little chubby kid. We got seen juice. We'll get to that one too, eventually, everyone. He's selling crack to to steal and
Starting point is 00:30:59 Kenesha they kind of keep showing her she can't be popping up where all the action is going on getting raised
Starting point is 00:31:07 walking around Kenesha's always there with something bad's happening just shaking her head they have guys buying
Starting point is 00:31:14 guns from people and then there's a huge fight in the in the lunchroom where the servers are they're in
Starting point is 00:31:22 like it's like a cage or something I'm going to tell you right now I'm not working in some place where I have to be protected like that.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah, I mean, the only cages we had was for the, um, the little snack bar that was down by the gym. It was a one, like a one little room thing and there was like a sink and a refrigerator in there and they sold like soda and chips and snacks and shit like that out of there. I think that only had those little cages over the windows because it was that one building that wasn't connected to. the school or anything but our lunchroom didn't
Starting point is 00:32:02 have those cages and everything so but yeah this big fight breaks out between a black guy and I think he's Mexican and I over some money and then this other teacher just comes in and tries to break it up
Starting point is 00:32:18 and then they just turn on him and then just start beating the shit of his teacher and slamming his head on the ground until blood's bursting out and then all hell's breaking loose the cops are there and they go hauling out the the teachers faces all bloody his head's bloody he's got oxygen mask and oh man while my guns and roses are still blasting this is all just the beginning and we finish off this whole montage of steel getting locked in his locker yeah I don't know how big these lockers are man we have a little skinny ones yeah I don't know how he fit in his locker yeah they just threw him in there and shut it and then these lockers are all old and beat up so no they put a padlock
Starting point is 00:33:05 on it in canesia is right there I like how they go get help and he's screaming help and he's what was that the the janitor just there not even not even caring it did hell no he didn't he just ain't that ain't got nothing to do me he just was the janet or reverend slap Reverend Slappy. So, yeah, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, I love that beginning.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So the schools just run, everybody running amok. All hell's breaking loose in it. The mayor and Benson and, uh, Mr. Rosenberg. I don't know who he was. I think he was a lawyer. They were trying to, I guess all the test scores in that school were like super low. And if they didn't bring them up, they were just going to shut. that school down. But I guess that was the only high school in that district for all the other for all these kids.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And that was one of those schools like, like Brandell and the principal were all the, all the riffraff got sent to that school. So they're trying to, well, we need a, we need a principal. And they're like, we don't know what we're going to do. And I guess it's a voting year because the mayor is trying to just get whatever he can to try to keep stay mayor. and they're like, well, well, the only one we can think of is one guy. And you say, yeah, the mayor was like, hell no, anybody but him. And he's like, well, who else are we going to get? So he's like, well, go ahead. But you got to, you got to control him.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So Benson, Dr. Napier, he goes to that school where Joe Clark is and tries to convince him to be a principal. but he he wasn't having it at first he was like what he was just trying to just he's like oh man I mean but he eventually I think I don't know I mean if I was Joe I would just stuck it out at the school and dealt with sandbox problems they go into some school it's all crazy but he because he told him was yeah man we need you to go in there and help get those test scores up and he's like ah gets all mad and tells them all all right well all right let's do this so he ends up going to east side high but i like when he walks in there and just yeah look like a battle zone everything's just like a bomb went off in there everything
Starting point is 00:35:40 destroyed remember the the music they're playing like adding to it he's just in the worst place ever and uh he must have been keeping up with east side eye because he just looks like shocked Yeah, he didn't like, well, I guess when you leave some place on a bad note, man, you don't, you don't want to go back there. I mean, I've been plenty of jobs that I hated and I never returned to those places because it just gives me bad memories. Yeah. So he goes into the school. All right. I assume this was way before school because like he's got every teacher and the whole custodian crew and Candyman's in there.
Starting point is 00:36:25 What the hell is his name? Mr. Wright. His avenging angel. He was head to security. I heard you're looking for Candyman, bitch. Yeah, this is the young, young Tony Todd, man. He an All-Star. I think this was after a platoon.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But, um, you ever met him? No, isn't he supposed to be his primary this year? Oh, is he? if you get that chance man meet him because he's he's he's he's hell of cool me and mike met him at uh terror and riverside or whatever the hell a little con was it was kind of a smaller con there wasn't too many people there but he was just sitting there me and mike went up and we had this long conversation with him he was he was hell of cool so you guys ever get to meet tony cod this was right before he did
Starting point is 00:37:19 a Night of a Living Dead remake. Oh, we did? Will we ever do that? No, we should. Yeah, well, put that on the list. Original remake for 31 days. I know I did the first, the original one, and I did, was it Mike and I?
Starting point is 00:37:38 I think we did original remake for Dawn of the Dead. But I guess we can have to do Night of Living Dead, but anyway, I like this part too because he gets all those teachers in there and he just lays down the law on what they're doing. And he just reamed everyone out saying that these kids don't have the knowledge to score in the basic skills test. Because he was just yelling out. He goes, you guys basically aren't doing shit.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And it's proven it. So he's just like, we're going to turn this school around. I mean, I couldn't give you word for word or what he said. But he's like, we're going to turn this school around. and I'm the boss so what everything I say goes because I'm the HNIC you guys should figure that out
Starting point is 00:38:27 I was not saying figure that one out but I did like I mean the the body was it was the vice principal her assistant she she explains it to the white teacher he didn't know it
Starting point is 00:38:45 but you know what I mean Yeah. There's only one boss in this place, and that's me. The HNIC. Are there any questions? Mr. Wright? The head nigger in charge. Speaking of that, back when President Obama was the leader, I was in Oakland, and I was just skating around, and this guy's selling t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:39:34 It was like, I think it was right after he became president. I was a picture of him on it. Obama sitting there smiling and under it, HNIC. I saw that shirt. I was like, oh, hell yeah. Look that up, everyone. I go to Urban Dictionary. So I was going to buy it just to buy it, man, because my friend had one.
Starting point is 00:40:01 No, he had a post. in his room. He said he had the shirt, but he doesn't know what he did with it. And I mean, shout out to my boy, man. His mom, she got
Starting point is 00:40:18 Jesus and then President Obama's picture right next to a boy in her house in the dining room. That was like I've been to that household before. Yeah. Awesome ladies.
Starting point is 00:40:35 She always fed me. So yeah, this is when Joe kind of just tells them, all right, get all the kids into the auditorium for an assembly. And yeah, it's just what you think, especially in this badass school. He walks in there, everyone just smoking cigarettes, being stupid, teachers can't control nobody. The vice principal's in here.
Starting point is 00:41:00 But then he kind of just, is this normal? And she's like, yeah, I'm a frienderats. afraid so. So he's like, all right. So he had her get all, I guess all the students that just are just messing up, had all her names on the list, made them all get on stage. So as he's kind of going through the schools, when he runs into Kenesha, because she remembers him. I guess she was his, her principal when she was in fifth grade. So it was getting good, familiar, friendly face. So she was kind of happy that he was there. So. He gets up on the stage and everybody in there. And then he just goes to start clowning everyone saying that they tried to get all the bad kids to sing the school song, but nobody knew it. Steals up there laughing around. Spider or Chris from Sopranos is up there. And the drug dealer guy, I don't know his name, Crazy Kay.
Starting point is 00:42:01 A little denim outfit he had on. His big old gold chains. No, I guess there was other white kids. I was like, was Spine of the only white kid in school? There was some sprinkled in there. That's right, because you tried to have those, I think it was those three of the white guys tried to sing the school song.
Starting point is 00:42:23 They couldn't do it. But he goes into telling everyone and goes, look man he goes he goes into the whole test score things and all that with the whole thing but he was trying to just basically telling everyone that I'm the new boss everyone needs to listen to me
Starting point is 00:42:40 and I don't know how kicking kids out of school works but I'm pretty sure he couldn't kick all of these kids out at once no I don't think this mass
Starting point is 00:42:57 of students can just be what do you call it they're excommunicated yeah that must have been about 50 kids on that stage I mean it wouldn't even it wouldn't go down like that in real life because you are you seen when they were taking a escort and them out it almost started a little riot on stage you had like 15 security yards up there right before you even got on stage the one guy, Clarence,
Starting point is 00:43:31 the little class cut up guy, him and some other dude were rapping. Get down. Check it out. Who's got the crabs? So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:47 once he told them all, he was kicking them all out. That's when the drug dealer guy's, oh man, you ain't nothing to me money. I'm going to get you. I'm going to the Air Force. So, yeah, and then his whole squad of security guards came in.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I liked his security crew, all nice guys and suit and ties and everything, because he was all about business, man. He wasn't like, he wasn't coming in like no slab. He had to be the part. He said they were deputized. Because, oh, that's right, he made, what's his name, the fool from Soul Food, Michael Beach, Mr. Darrell, Darnel. Oh, he demoted him.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah. That was cold because he was like, I'm demoting you because I'm tired of our football team getting pushed around all over the field. Thank you. Sit down. How did he know that he was a football player? Because I think it was an English teacher. He even made the math teacher, the head coach. Eventually, he made him, we never ever see any kind of sports going on in this.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But he eventually, because when they do one of those montages, when all the kids are, studying for a test. He's back in the classroom. Yeah, it doesn't really seem like football was a priority here. No, uh, just trying to get these kids to do the schoolwork is the first one. But I noticed that all those kids quiet down after they kicked everybody out. Because everyone just went,
Starting point is 00:45:20 mouth shut everything. So he just basically told all them, look, man, this is what we're doing. And we got rid of all the trash. So, because he went into telling him that he was like, yeah. And he goes, these, the people downtown, the school board, they think you guys are just no good. He said some racial words that I won't say. But he was like, this is what they think of you.
Starting point is 00:45:50 You're the N-word and your derogatory word for Mexicans and derogatory word for Mexicans. and derogatory word for white kids. Theirs didn't sound that bad. No. I can't say the N-word. Yeah. He said one thing. You're like, oh, said the next thing, you're like, oh, said the one for the white kids.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You're like, yeah. But, I mean, he was keeping it real, man. He was always straightforward with these kids. That's what I liked about him. I mean, he didn't try to sugarcoat it. He was straight up. So, I mean, not with just the kids with everybody. So with this flight today, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Maybe there is some principals out there like that. I mean, I'd be all right with it. I mean, long as he's doing good and getting these kids to learn because I don't remember ever seeing our principal come in and give speeches if he did. I remember when I graduated. He was there. But other than that, I mean, I don't think you're really supposed to see the principal. I don't remember. I mean, I might have seen him here and there, but I never seen him come into the classroom.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I mean, I saw the vice principal. She was always walking around the- Yeah, you always see the vice principal, but it's always like to the point where you don't even know what the principal looks like. You think the vice principal is the principal. Well, my high school. principal. He was my junior high principal. And then when I got out of there after three years, I was like
Starting point is 00:47:31 good, man. Don't get to see him anymore. And then I walk in the first day of 10th grade and there he is. I'm the new principal. I had another three years of this motherfucker. And he kept calling
Starting point is 00:47:47 me my brother's name because my brother, same thing. He had six years. I know he had three years with him. in Bay Area, I don't know if it's like this anymore. Junior high was 7th, 8th night. My wife says, ah, it's wrong. Because middle school is, was it 6, 7, 8?
Starting point is 00:48:08 And then high school was 9, 10, 11, 12. Yeah, when I went to school, middle school was, or when it was back in my time, it was junior high. Yeah. It was 7th 8th. 7 and 8th. I was 7, 8, 9 when I went. And everyone goes, no, man.
Starting point is 00:48:25 That's not how it goes. Well, that's how it went back then. Because my wife, she graduated before I did. My wife's a few years older than me. And she goes, well, that's how it was up here. I'm saying, well, don't yell at me. I didn't make up the rules down there. I just went to school.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Went to school because I had nothing else to do. But after he kicked everyone out of school, there's when they have the big emergency school board meeting. and what's her name? Mrs. Barrett. How do you say her last name? Lean, Lane.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Thick, and. Yeah. Of those you, remember, the Warriors, she was the DJ. So, oh, my God, I hated her in this. She was something else that just bothered me.
Starting point is 00:49:18 After her, after her role in this, I just, I didn't like her, because she was all, she wasn't where in the world's Carmen San Diego. She was? Yeah, she was like the main lady.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I don't even know. First time I heard about that, I was on New York Comic-Connor, my friend. She was like, oh, there's Carmen San Diego. Oh, like, who? She's way, way younger than me. So that's why she, you don't know what that is? That's a nope.
Starting point is 00:49:52 But yeah, they're having that school meeting, and she's going off. and these kids need to be in school. And he disrespected the black football coach. And he's crazy and all that. But he's just sitting there letting her say her thing. And again, a lot of these are parents of the kids that are still in school.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And then there's parents of the kids that got kicked out of school. Yeah, you can tell who the parents are the ones who got kicked out. Because when he said they're rotten to the cord, he was like, you're trying to say my kids rotten? He was like, yeah. And he goes into, they goes, yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:29 he goes, make these kids pride of themselves. Help them get off of welfare. And then everyone, ah, everyone starts going off. But then he goes into his little, his little sermon,
Starting point is 00:50:43 how God chose him to go to that school and turn it around. And he goes, and that's, it goes, because he told him, goes, God told me, Joe,
Starting point is 00:50:54 you ain't no good. So. he's going to turn that school around and he goes so that this is what i'm going to do and that's why i kick those bastards out and that's all i'm going to say and he just drops the board he and drop a mic but might as well drop the mic and rolled out and yeah you can see the people cheering then you see all the other ones ah that are all mad next day he gets to school early and steal is sitting on the stairs and uh he's kind of telling hey man i'm one of the kids he got kicked out school you kicked out and I think you made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And then he tells him his name. He looks it up and he goes, oh, skipping school and smoking crack. He goes, I don't like how he has on his clipboard right there. Yeah, I mean, I mean, the kids are already gone. So why do you still have it? Steele's like, I don't think, I think he made a mistake. He's like, nope. So it's right here.
Starting point is 00:51:50 There's no mistake at all. Skip the schools, smoking crack. So he told. he goes yeah and he goes he told him he grabs him and then he goes up to the roof of the school and right here all right man
Starting point is 00:52:05 first of all you can maybe in 89 88 whenever they film this but you cannot endanger children at all so he's crazy Joe Clark but I mean
Starting point is 00:52:21 I like what he did here man this is the the clip that I played at the beginning. But he was straight up with them. I mean, he told him. And he was like, look, man. He goes, he goes, what do you've been doing this whole time? And then he goes, and he goes into yelling at him.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And he goes, he goes, were you scared to tell your father that you dropped out of school? You got kicked out of school. And then he goes, my father doesn't live with us, sir. And then he goes, oh, I just feeling sorry for yourself. And he goes, well, go on, jump. And he's like, no, he goes, I got to stay in school. And he's like, no, you smoke crack, don't you? And he's yelling at him.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And he goes, you know what crack does? He goes, it kills your brain cells. He goes, it's killing yourself, but only slower. And he goes, you want to do that? Just jump. And then Steele starts crying. He says, I don't want to kill myself. And then he goes, why should I let you back into my school, Sam's?
Starting point is 00:53:16 And then, you know, because I'm going to do good. And I'm going to go to class and do my work. So he kind of just, he goes, all right, well, I'm going to go back on my on word because you're a little baby and you don't know shit so he tells him all right he's going to let him back into school but I mean what he said I just kind of glared over everything but what he was saying to him was true though man I mean I mean he was he just going along with the crowd because that's what it seemed like steel was doing he was yeah because I mean if he really didn't care he wouldn't have showed up waiting for
Starting point is 00:53:55 Mr. Clark on the on the doorstep. Yeah. He would have just been doing whatever he was doing with all the rest of the kids that got kicked out. Yeah, because he was the only one that tried to come back. The drug dealer comes back later. Well, he wanted to come back. For different reasons. He wanted to come back to go to school.
Starting point is 00:54:19 So he lit him up and he let him with, I don't know, yeah, this was like early in the the morning so nobody was even at school yet so nobody would even believe to him that Mr. Clark took him on the roof and told him to jump because nobody was around the audience is I don't know we stopped it is an iconic scene though the whole it kills your brain cells it kills your brains
Starting point is 00:54:42 you know poking him in the head yeah but I mean he had to say that to him he had to let him know because later on when we're dealing with kid Ray he said to say He didn't do with no drugs or anything, but he kind of laid into him too and kept it real. Yeah, because Kid Ray, he was like on the opposite end of Sam's, where basically those dealing with the same thing,
Starting point is 00:55:10 but on the opposite end, he wanted to be the one to get all the attention, the money, the basically the glitz and glamour of it. Yeah, because the scene when they were in the auditorium, kid Ray is sitting there talking. talking to one of his boys. And he goes, yeah, man, he goes, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:28 You need to dress to impress. And here, I can you some, you need to get some gold. The stupid gold. Yeah, because that one girl goes walking by and goes, whoa, man, check her out. And he goes, and that one guy, well, man, tell her to check me out. And he goes, oh, you don't like the girlies? And that's when he goes into him. So, that was the thing saying stupid.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Well, I must have been your, because I don't remember ever. any of us saying anything like that. It's from, what year did you graduate? The 99. Yeah, and you're 10 years after me. Well,
Starting point is 00:56:08 nine years. I graduated in 90. Well, I should have graduated in 89, but I was fucking up for a year. So I got held back. Kind of glad that I did. Well,
Starting point is 00:56:21 not glad that I was fucking up, but because then all my all my homies that I still, well not all of them, but most of them I still talk to today. So because Mike and I are the same age and he graduated in 89. We went to a different school. He went to a Catholic school. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:38 we're back at the school and the lunch. Oh, I liked what during the, when he was reaming out all the teachers, when he was telling Reverend Slappy, he goes, yeah, he goes, you guys need to take down all those cages in the,
Starting point is 00:56:51 in the cafeterias. and then paint over all the graffiti. And he said, get all the kids in detention to help you. So when he's in the, in the cafeteria, we've noticed all these, some of the bad kids, painting over the graffiti on the wall. So I guess I save you some money and get the kids to do it. That's what they did in my high school.
Starting point is 00:57:16 You got in trouble. You had to work with the janitorial crew for like a period. We had to go in on Saturdays. And it wasn't like breakfast club, everyone. As soon as we walked in and checked in, they handed us a bag and go out and pick up trash for, I don't know how many hours. Any younger listeners?
Starting point is 00:57:38 We just went hidden smoke cigarettes. It wasn't happening up here. Nobody was showing up on Saturday. I don't remember what I did. That was probably something stupid. But I remember going up there twice, and one of my friends was there. So I was like, oh, shit, you're here cool. So I hung out with her.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And, yeah, she passed away a month or so ago. I had to go down to the Bay Area for her memorial this weekend. Oh, man. But we had some good times. And that was one of them, picking up trash on Saturday detention. It's sitting down by the back of the school behind the portable smoking cigarettes. We went to a garbage can or to the dumpster and just started filling up our bag. Garbage.
Starting point is 00:58:29 So when we came back, we walked up and say, yeah, here's everything we picked up. Because I think we had to fill, I think it was three bags. And I was thinking there. I mean, there was trash scattered all over the place because there was, I know that my buddies, man, they were down by the football field and they were digging through the bushes. and you go, as we're all the trashes, man,
Starting point is 00:58:53 they filled up their bags hella quick. Because after you fill those bags, then you, you, they let you leave or you can sit and hang out.
Starting point is 00:58:59 But, nah, we, so we hung out how long, we're sitting back there smoking cigarettes. But we filled up
Starting point is 00:59:05 those garbage bags and then they let us go. But, yeah, he's going into the, into the, um, the cafeteria and Sam's
Starting point is 00:59:14 is trying to steal somebody's meatball. He starts yelling at it. him and tell him what are you doing he goes why did I let you back in his school and he goes to learn he attacks you know he was like what are you doing put that back he's yelling at everybody he didn't care he had a little blowhorn and everything so he goes why you guys he goes why are hanging out with him man he goes these guys are much older than you and he's my cousin and we're just going over music so he makes all those guys get up all right uh sing the the school song and nobody do it
Starting point is 00:59:50 So everyone They didn't even do anything Well I guess they made Sam's Go steal that meatball But he just lit into everyone All you guys are Go through my office So they were like
Starting point is 01:00:06 And Mr. Darnell Had to pick up a piece of paper Oh then you chewed him out Yeah Because when he told him That they were going to sing the school song I think he was standing next To the vice principal
Starting point is 01:00:19 and then she dropped something and he bent down to pick up a piece of paper and then he turned around and started screaming and I told you nobody moves you know I'm picking up a piece of paper get to my go to my office and hit all the kids
Starting point is 01:00:36 and didn't even steal he started laughing and then he hit him over the head because there's a day where you can hit kids hit students yeah that almighty clipboard so after that he goes and uh since nobody knows the school song he charges into the uh the music room where the choir teacher is teaching all the kids they're supposed to be getting ready for some kind
Starting point is 01:01:03 of concert in new york throw steel right into the piano and he starts going off on her and goes you need to teach all these kids the school song and she's like nah because she was one of the ones that uh when he was yelling at everybody in that meeting and she was like like rolling her eyes the whole time. Like she wasn't having it. So he went in there and started yelling at her and said, you need to stop do what you're doing and tell. And all these kids need to learn a school song.
Starting point is 01:01:31 And she's like, I'm trying to get ready for a concert and you're in here interrupting us. And he's like, you know what? He goes, your school concert is canceled. And he's like, what? And he goes, ah, she started yelling at him. And then he just lights up, all right, you're fired. She's like, what? And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And he goes, go pack your shit and get that's not what he said. Basically, that's what he told me. Get out. So she said, ah, she started yelling. You're going to hear from my lawyer. And it sounds like privilege. He walked back into the office. And Mr. Darnell's in there.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Then he comes in. He goes, I was just trying to pick up a paper. And he just gets, you disrespecting me in front of the students. And he goes, I'm a working my ass off for you. I took the donation, the, the, the motion. And I'm doing my job. and you're treating me like shit or whatever
Starting point is 01:02:21 and he yelled at it you treat me like trash he was like no mr darnel that's what you were picking up and he said he said mr darnell's yell and he goes look man you show me some goddamn
Starting point is 01:02:31 scabber I'm gonna kick your black ass and then he just I can't he said something to him and then Mr. Darnell got hella mad and picked up his desk and tipped it over
Starting point is 01:02:44 oh he told him that he was suspended or whatever. I think he says suspended without pay or something. Yeah, so he kicked him out. And he's picking him all stuff and the vice prison's what comes in. That one guy walks in.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I think he's a math teacher. He walks in, what do you want nothing? They're trying to walk right back out. So. She's trying to talk some sense to him because basically she was like, you got to fill forms out to suspend a teacher. And then the other teachers,
Starting point is 01:03:22 she's telling them you don't have the authority to fire anybody. Yeah. So he, she's, yeah, she was trying to go about it the right way. And he was just straight up. Hell no. This is my way or my way or the highway.
Starting point is 01:03:35 He was letting, he was lighting fools up. And now we get, they're all getting ready for the, the basic skills tests, montage of all these kids trying to go through. Just getting everyone. Well,
Starting point is 01:03:49 at least everyone's in class and everyone's trying to study and everything. He's walking around. You can tell when he looks at some of they work, the expression on his face.
Starting point is 01:03:57 You can tell these kids ain't passing. Because he got Clarence looking at Hustler. He had a Hustler magazine. It is bag. He's looking at that. But the schools,
Starting point is 01:04:12 it's the school's starting to turn around. And all the graffiti is gone pretty much. Um, everyone's, uh, in class. He was yelling at Sam's and Sam's is being all happy and everything. So, I was a happy montage, right? Yeah, he did turn the school around. And then because we see the, the, the school president, he, or he's, I don't know what he was doing, showing them.
Starting point is 01:04:40 He built some kind of model. I'm like, shouldn't you be doing something else? I mean, well, I think it was. more of just a hey our school we're turning our school around and we're doing nice and everything trying to get I assume these were school board
Starting point is 01:04:57 people there to see how how the school was changed because it wasn't all it wasn't a war zone or anything anymore and all the graffiti and everything was gone and this guy he was the
Starting point is 01:05:12 the vice of the school school president So that's going on. These kids, these two girls come running up. Mr. Clark, Mr. Clark. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:05:23 somebody's beating up Kid Ray. So they go running down a hall to the lunchroom. And that drug dealer kid that got kicked out. That wasn't going to the Air Force. Still in the same clothes. He comes running in. He's beating up Kid Ray slapping him around. And he tries to run out.
Starting point is 01:05:45 That's when he goes face. face with Mr. Clark pulls out of switchblade. He goes, I'm waiting for this. Come on.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And then he hits the switch blade out of his head and clocks him and he goes down and Candyman comes running and they grab them. Kid Ray's standing there in his jumpsuit
Starting point is 01:06:05 all beat up falling over. So because when he was talking, he's a candy man in my eyes everyone. He was talking to him. He told him, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:06:17 He got in somehow. Maybe we just missed him. So that's when he told him to, all right, you need to chain and padlock all the doors. All right. I get that. You don't want drug dealers and whoever else to come into your school. But it is a safety issue. What if there was a fire?
Starting point is 01:06:39 And, yeah, they give you fire drills and all that at school. I asked my son, do you guys ever do fire drills? He went sometimes. Um, thankfully, I've never, we've never had school fires at our school and at the schools I've been to and, and my kids and my grandkids and all that. But yeah, you line up and you walk out, but now, man, if something happens like everyone, everyone's going to panic and run. And if these kids are running to that whatever door to get out and it's padlocked. I don't know, man, but I get it. I get it, everyone.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I understand why he was trying to do it to keep the riffraff out of his school. So, but then we see, what's your name, Kenisha? Yeah, she was all-star on this. Because other than being everywhere where something bad was going on, she's sitting out in front of the office. And Mr. Clark's talking, she finds out that her mom, I don't think she kicked her out. I think she's just...
Starting point is 01:07:45 She don't want me no more. Yeah, so she was telling me, yeah, my mom, she just doesn't want nothing to do with me anymore. So Mr. Clark and Mrs. Levis, the vice principal, they take Kenisha and they go to her house. Almost get taken out by a jack-lantern. Yeah, all those little kids, trick-or-treating and everything.
Starting point is 01:08:07 So they go over to her house and they're... As soon as the projects, it looks like it. and they go to her and then her mom's in there. Oh, shit. Yeah, they almost didn't get hit with a jack-o-lantern. So they go in there and the mom's sitting there. She's just smoking cigarettes and their house is all wrecked. Her reasoning for kicking her daughter out is,
Starting point is 01:08:37 I think she's in recovery. She's trying to get herself. Better, I don't know, either it was either alcohol or drugs. Well, I guess it's not alcohol. She's got miller lights sitting on the table. So it was probably drugs. I'm not sure. I know there could have been alcohol.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Maybe it didn't. But she didn't want her daughter to see her like that. That's why she kind of just kicked her out. She's trying to do what she's got to do to survive. and then Joe Clark and the vice principal town and I like look because Joe is Mr. Clark is telling
Starting point is 01:09:19 like look because you when she was in the fifth grade you were like one of my star parents you were always there but I mean just life happens everyone and mom took a wrong turn and started abusing whatever drugs
Starting point is 01:09:35 alcohol so they were telling look man because it will she can't be out on the street and he was telling her look if we help you get a job help you live in a better place will that be good enough
Starting point is 01:09:52 let her come home so they could she kind of agreed to it but I mean this part was fucked up I mean just kicking your kids out um
Starting point is 01:10:05 I've had some friends like that family as well, just not taking care of their kids because of this or that. Drugs is usually the big, well, the drugs, it was a drug issue in my family. And, uh, but I can see she was trying to get herself better, but she just, I'm sure she fell off the wagon or whatever. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 But that was the, the reason and why she kicked her out. And then she agreed to, all right, she can, she can come home and you guys help me out. will all school principals and all that do that? I don't know. I can only base you on the principals that I had. One of them, one of my principals, my elementary school teacher,
Starting point is 01:10:52 I went to two different elementary schools. One when I was living in my local area, and then my mom got us to go to a different school, and that principal was really cool. Mr. Schmunk, I think that was his name. He was nice.
Starting point is 01:11:11 He was cool. He only yelled at me once because I was fucking up and he yelled at me. But I don't know. Maybe now, I don't know. Maybe whoever's listening, you have kids, maybe your child's principal would be cool like this. But I did like that. Did this really happen in this story?
Starting point is 01:11:29 I don't know. But in the movie, they had to add up the drama and everything. Yeah. But it was good in the story. end for her. Between her and her mom. She did agree to, all right, I'm going to get myself clean.
Starting point is 01:11:46 She can live here and I'm sure they helped her out one way or the other. It's good now, but indicia'll pop up later. We get, Benson's up there again and he's reaming them out, trying to tell him that, look, man, you can't
Starting point is 01:12:04 be doing this, especially with the locking the doors and going on. And he, Benson was like yelling at him. And then Joe turned it around. I was like, look, man. He goes, you came to me. You wanted me to do this. He goes, you know how I do things.
Starting point is 01:12:21 So don't get mad at me. Because I'm sure the school board and everybody was going after him, Dr. Napier, and telling him to, you need to go up there and slow Mr. Clark's roll down. Because he started yelling and goes, look, he goes, shut up and listen to me. Because here, I'm just, I'm just shut up and listen to me. Because here, I'm. I'm the HNIC He just reamed him out
Starting point is 01:12:43 I like how he just looked at it He goes You think you bad aren't you They go walking around I mean but I'm more I'm leaning more with Joe Clark Mr. Clark
Starting point is 01:12:57 I mean on his On what he was doing To try to turn that school And he did turn that school around But then you got Dr. Napier That's listening to Mr. Clark but more listening towards the school board and everybody else.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And because of that one bitchy mom that was complaining. Yeah, you put that focus into whoever your son was, I got kicked out. Yeah, I wouldn't even know who that was. And you're there trying to get him kicked out of that school. I mean, I get your parent and you're mad. Your kid got kicked out, but your kid got kicked out for a reason because he or she was fucking up. So you think the whole argument would have been like let my kid back into school Not get this guy out of the school
Starting point is 01:13:45 And not once did you know outside of that after that meeting you know she never brought up her kid again Oh we don't even know who her kid was So she didn't even have a kid I mean yeah maybe she's just one of those ones that just wants to bitch and complain about everything So because, yeah, because let's just say that she got her way and he got kicked out.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Do you think that school just went back to hell again? Oh, yeah. Well, if it did, this is what I think. Let's just say he got kicked out. And yeah, you got all the nice kids that were still learning everything, but since he's gone,
Starting point is 01:14:26 they're going to let all those kids that got kicked out back in that school and then go right back to the way it was. So, but, he's uh they're the mrs barrett she's the one that's trying to get him uh locked up or whatever so they uh the fire chief shows up one day at school and and they wouldn't let him in um right there all right especially in a public school uh and the fire chief wants to come in and do an an inspection they can basically i think i could be wrong i'm pretty sure they can come in and
Starting point is 01:15:04 and inspect everything. If they can roll into concert venues and everything, just to make sure that capacities are not over the limit. I mean, I'm sure they can go into a school and make sure that these kids are safe. But because they all do know that there's padlocks on these doors, but they need to see it for themselves, but they weren't less security than everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:28 They stopped them at the door and they weren't letting them in. So, all right, kid raised back in a place. He's all bandaged up, blackout, well, he got bruises under his eyes and looked like one of his lips is busted up and got a band-aid over his nose. But he came in just to tell him, tell Mr. Clark that he, school's not for him. I'm going to drop out because I'm going to just go live my life somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:15:56 But I mean, Mr. Clark, he was straight up with him. He was like, look, you'll be dead in the year. And Kid Ray is just like, I got to do what I got to do Because he was just trying to tell him Like man don't don't go Just stay here Finish out your school
Starting point is 01:16:12 And Yeah but when he said that He goes you'll be dead in a year I've had friends like that Yeah Yeah They were fucking up And
Starting point is 01:16:23 Other than us trying to tell him And I'm sure parents And school parents And that's exactly What happened And then they were out in the streets Doing what they were doing and sometimes
Starting point is 01:16:36 Clearly he He was in deep If he had to leave school Yeah I just assumed Well I assumed
Starting point is 01:16:47 I assumed that kid got arrested The drug dealer guy that beat him up But I don't know if he was still a juvenile I mean he'd slap you on the wrist And send you home Well he's when he gets out He's gonna be angry
Starting point is 01:17:00 It might affect his way into the Air Force Yeah, so Kid Ray, he bounces. That part was that part was sad. I mean, Kid Ray seemed like he was a cool guy. But yeah, I guess obviously he was doing some kind of dirt for that drug dealer to beat him up. Yeah, I always just assumed that he owed a lot of money. Probably why he had the stupid gold. He had like the same suit on that Mr. Clark had.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah, I got to play the part, man. these kids don't know what's going on. So yeah, he rolls around and he sees Sam's. And Sam's and all those guys are walking down on him and his cousins are walking down all with their other guys. And then they all jump into the bathroom because they hear Mr. Clark coming. And he walks in and goes,
Starting point is 01:17:49 these are all the guys that got in trouble with him in the cafeteria. Aren't you guys my little songbirds? And they're like, oh. And he goes, all right. He goes, look, if you guys better sing this song and if you don't know it, You go and get suspended for 10 days each. So he kind of lights into them to sing the school song.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And they kind of start it. And then it's all crazy. But then Sam's like, all right, guys, hit it. So then they start singing it a better way, a better version, which Joe Clark hasn't heard. So if you guys know the song, you guys know the movie that you know how they sang it. And it did sound way better than what those kids were singing in the beginning of the movie. because I was like, all right. Because no, it was the end, I think it was at the beginning or the end of the movie when there's a young woman singing the...
Starting point is 01:18:40 I think that's the beginning. Yeah. But this one's all jazzed up. Gospel style. Because Mrs. Powers, was she just a piano player when Mrs. Elliott was the teacher? I think she was an assistant music teacher. and then when the one lady got fired, I think she got promoted.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Our music teacher didn't have no assistance. She was in there by herself, battling with everyone. And does, does steel get thrown into the piano again? Yeah, because when they're all singing the song, and he's all shocked,
Starting point is 01:19:18 and he starts laughing, who goes, who guys, who taught you this? They just started yelling, answer me. And no one's saying anything. It's,
Starting point is 01:19:25 all right, Sam's, and then he grabs him, and then he goes, rushing into the music room because he just Sam's telling us
Starting point is 01:19:33 who told you this he said so they're like ah so he just he gets all those guys and tells them go to my office so no he just comes with me
Starting point is 01:19:42 because then he goes and charges into the music room and Mrs. Powers is in there teaching class and then he interrupts and just start yelling at yelling at her and he goes basically telling him
Starting point is 01:19:54 look I didn't authorize you who gave you permission to to do the song like this and she goes, well, I changed it because it was actually boring. And he goes, I didn't authorize this. And then she's looking at
Starting point is 01:20:10 like, because he just comes in like he does and just starts yelling at it. But basically just say, look, you take a bow. Because you just rewritten our what fuck did he say? What is it? Amma mater? Yeah, that. So everyone,
Starting point is 01:20:27 everyone's cheering and laughing and everything. So he was all super hyped and happy and Mrs. Powers steals hugging her and everything. So but after he leaves and everyone's cheering and hugging and everything, he goes into the office and tells the vice principal, yeah, man, I just heard like the best thing ever. And she hands him the test scores from the practice test that they were supposed to do. And he looks at it.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I don't remember what the score was, but it was basically just still hella low and never went in mass. Nowhere near 75%. Uh-uh. So he is, ah, he gets all mad and starts lightning to her. And then he goes back in,
Starting point is 01:21:13 gets all the teachers to get into the, uh, into the, um, the gym and then starts reaming them out again. Basically told, like, look,
Starting point is 01:21:25 what, you guys are doing, ain't good enough. We need to step it up. So, I know if I was a, I mean, I don't like to yell at
Starting point is 01:21:36 by anyone. I mean, even then now, but he was lighting him up. But I get what he's doing and he's, he's trying to improve his school. But a lot of people
Starting point is 01:21:51 just didn't like what he was doing because he lit him up. Because there was one side of the room was like more teachers and the other side was just a few and he was like this is how many people you guys are doing good or um this percentage over here which wasn't that many teachers is what's passing and all you guys are the rest of the students and they're not passing so he was just screaming and yelling at them lighting them up and he does some good changes here he what they do like a tutoring program and then they do another program where the parents need help
Starting point is 01:22:25 they'll help them to better understand to help their kids do their work because they were like yeah because they were like what he goes he was saying well they were going to have to start doing after school stuff and coming in on the weekends and all that and they're like these kids aren't going to come in on the weekend and he goes what and he goes well this is what this is what they got to do this is what they had to do for everyone to get their test scores up when they do that minimum I guess the minimum skills test or the basic skills test that's what it's called so another I was about to say I think around this time he reinstates Mr.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Darnell yeah because we got another montage and Mr. Darnell's in class teaching and he comes in and gives him a thumbs up and Kesea at home classes participating yeah he teaches at home and her mom's there and her mom's helping her with her school work so and I could tell you the song that was going on. It was a happy song. Yeah, it was. You see Kadesha and the one kid,
Starting point is 01:23:34 the high school, the senior class president. Yeah, Carlton. Yeah, him. That's exactly where he is. They see him flirting around with each other. And we go into the gym. Everyone's laughing around, cutting it up,
Starting point is 01:23:52 having a good time. Mr. Clark, jumps in, starts jump roping with all the girls and Sam's is jumping roping and everything. So he gives a good time. Everyone's having a good time at school. Everyone's happy to be at school, which is awesome. And then we get more scenes of that bitchy-ass lady screaming at the mayor telling him, look, you guys still need to get rid of him.
Starting point is 01:24:15 We need to get these kids back in school. Dr. Nepeer is telling them, like, look, man, goes, he's doing a good job. And why are you letting this bitch fill your head? I mean, that's not what he said, but that's basically what he said. That's what he said. He's in right after that. You should have said, who the hell is your kid? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Your kid ain't even there. Who are you? Why aren't you? I understand her frustration and everything, but I mean, I'd be like, you're the kids. Your kid is fucking up. Why don't you yelling at your kid to try to do something or get your kid into another school or whatever? But the fire chief is there too as well. he's telling him was look man if we can get in there and get them we can we can arrest him so the
Starting point is 01:25:01 the mayor the fire chief and mrs barrett they're coming up with some kind of scheme on how to get rid of joe clark so he basically told us look we go i'm going to sick the fire chief on him so uh the mayor and the fire chief are in the bathroom and they're trying to work up some way on how to get rid of Joe. And because when they're in there talking, the lawyer, the hell's his name, Mr. Rosenberg,
Starting point is 01:25:31 he's in there taking a shit, but he lifts his legs up. Because the mayor, he kind of kneels down and looks under all the stalls to make sure no one's in there. So that's when they start rambling off and saying what they were going to do. So he hears what the plan that they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:25:48 the mayor and the fire chief and he goes down and tells Mr. Clark what's happening. But he's scared. He's like, look, you didn't hear this from me. So, yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:59 and this is the scene when he gets the three little white boys. All right, sing the song and they don't sing it right. He made them look embarrassed in front of the kids. So, he's next problem coming out. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 01:26:16 we've got more problems. He's dealing with, the Hispanic kids. I believe they were a Puerto Rican. I could be wrong, but she said, I go, why are you guys good? You got all this.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You got all this. You got the classes and stuff for the black kids. You got the classes and stuff for the white kids. Like I mean, he ain't doing nothing for us. And he kind of turns out, all right, let's come in my office and we'll talk about it. He comes in, he goes in there.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And he starts reaming out the teachers again. Not so hard though. He starts telling him, look, man, we got six days until the exam. You guys are doing good. We need to be a little more tougher on these kids to make sure everyone's ready for this test. And they're talking about, but we got to watch out because the fire chief is coming around. And they try to set up, make sure that everyone's, the security guards and everyone's got a radios.
Starting point is 01:27:07 And they come up some code word saying that some of the teachers that are near the doors with the chains on. This is the code. if you hear that run over there and take the chains off the door before the chief comes in so they're trying to work up that plan okay after that um what's her name i guess he was yelling at the vice principal and then she turns around and turns it on him and starts yelling at him because she was basically saying like look man we're working our ass off and you you're not appreciating what we're trying to do here and he goes you Like you're the only one that cares for these kids. He goes, we care for these kids too. And he goes, but you need to slow your rule on everybody. And then he tries like, I don't need to hear this. But then she lights in them.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah, you do. You stop right there. Listen. So he just, she lights him up. And what she said was good. But she was basically, we want you to appreciate us. Don't just, it's not just you doing all this. it's us too
Starting point is 01:28:19 and he needed to hear that and that's what I liked about this vice principal she was straight up with him too so it's getting the kids ready for the test keeping the eye out for the fire chief and everything
Starting point is 01:28:35 and then after everything's going good it comes cadizia with more years I understand I mean you just get that urge and accident happens. She thought she was with a good guy.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Well, maybe he had game. She found out she was pregnant, and it was by the senior class president. Yeah, Carlton. I don't know if that's his name, that's what we're called. And he's basically saying, he goes, no, I ain't my kid.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And she's all sad. and scared. What am I going to do? So Mr. Clark is like, all right, man. Well, we're going to get through this too and just adding more stuff that he's got to deal with. So while he's talking to her,
Starting point is 01:29:31 here comes Candyman. He comes running in. And he goes, man, the fire chief got by. So they're like, ah, no, he got past the front gate. So they're all running Code 10 or whatever the hell he is. He goes, uh, the enemy's in the building. Yeah, unchained the doors. But the fire chief is
Starting point is 01:29:47 already in the school as well as dumbass Mrs. Barrett. So they're like, all right. And he goes and the fire chief was recording the radio. He has a little pocket recorder. He basically told him, he said, all right, you're in trouble and you're arrested. So that's when he plays the tapeback to him.
Starting point is 01:30:08 So now he's got proof that he was chaining the doors up. And the police are there too with the fire chief. So he gets handcuffed. and everything. The vice principal comes over, what's going on? And then even Steele's there. He goes, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Why are you doing to this? And then the vice principal is trying to see. Look, man, he goes, you can't do this, but Mrs. Bear goes, nope, we got everything. We got all the proof here. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:30:36 He's done. And she's cussing and, or she's not cussing, but she's screaming at him. And then Steele comes running up and goes, hey, you know, suck on this or whatever the hell he said. Hey, bitch, suck on. this. So what do you say?
Starting point is 01:30:51 Yo, bitch, vote on this. That's what he said. Because they were going to vote him out. And now they have a more excuse. He's in, uh, endangering kids. And so, but everyone was like, what's going on? Why, why are you getting arrested? And he goes, whoa, I put the chains on the door and it was against law and now I'm paying for it. So he's out the door. He goes down to jail. They have him locked up. Dr. Napier and Benson. are they talking to him
Starting point is 01:31:19 I don't remember what they were saying to him here I don't remember I know because he was well he was explaining well this is this is what you know what I do here but let me see
Starting point is 01:31:37 the students demand Clark is arrested for violating the fire safety codes that evening the students gather at the meeting what was he saying I mean, I think Mr. Clark, I mean, he knew he knew what he did was wrong, but he knew why he was doing it to keep all the drug dealers and all the bad, bad kids out of the school. Yeah, but I think that's what he was telling them, even though you, you had good intentions. Like, they caught you and they were going to, they are going to vote you out.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Yeah. And, I mean, he, he, he wasn't, he wasn't complaining about it. I mean, he knew what he was, did, he did was wrong. Because he said it to the kids and I, what do you, why are you getting arrested? And he goes,
Starting point is 01:32:26 because I did something bad. And he goes, I put the chain on the doors. That's why I'm, now I got to pay the price. So when they're in this school board meeting, I don't know why they're letting this bitch to have so much power. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:39 she's not on any committees or have any position in office or anything. She's just a regular person. Yeah, I mean, if you want you. put more uh because
Starting point is 01:32:52 wasn't there a scene like he was she was making she was making it seem like she was making it seem like she can give votes for the mayor yeah because um it was like what power what do you do because you can't even keep your kid in school but you're going to get votes for the mayor your kids are out there fucking up I think she
Starting point is 01:33:11 her way was probably going to all the um the parents of the kids that they got kicked out of school okay man He's going to help us, so we got to vote for him. It's not a whole bunch of votes there. Yeah. There was, what, 50 kids up there?
Starting point is 01:33:27 So I don't know. So they were trying to have that meeting on this is what they were going to do and they want to they want to get him out. But you had all the people in the other parents that were supporting Joe, Mr. Clark. So they were like, ah, they were all yelling back and forth. But I think the board was just getting tired of her of her. Because, yeah, someone should have called her out. why don't you fucking at home try to deal with your kid you're here fucking trying to get ruin this guy's life so but all the kid it would have made more sense to me if she had some kind of pull or position because I just feel like if she was just a regular person they would have just ignored her yeah I don't think they would have gave her so much screen time in the mayor's office and yelling at the fire chief and I don't think you can just bust into the mayor.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Well, maybe back in 89 you could now. Hell, no. There's security and everybody there. So, but all the kids from Eastside High, they posse up and they go charging down to the, is this the police station or the mayor's office? It kind of felt like a combination of the mayor's office, the police station, and the courthouse all in wine. It's probably the courthouse because, uh,
Starting point is 01:34:48 They got Mr. Clark downstairs in a cell. It's probably where they were going to do the vote. So he's got to tell them and all the kids are outside rallying up and with the blowhorns yelling and screaming free Mr. Clark. The mayor looks out the window because the cops go, hey man, you better look outside. So he looks out and sees the whole mob of kids and he's like, oh, shit. So he goes down into Mr. Clark's cell and tries to tell him, hey, man, you need to go out there and say something to these kids and, is this a part when he goes, I don't got to do it, stay black and die.
Starting point is 01:35:23 He's yelling at him. I don't got to do nothing, but stay black and die. And the mayor's like, oh, man, come on, you got to do something. And I assume this was a voting year. That's why that one bitch was just saying, I can get you votes to stay mayor. But I think they get,
Starting point is 01:35:42 they get Mr. Clark to go out there. Because I think they say something, you don't want no kids to get hurt with the police or anything. Yeah, because they were just a bunch of black kids. I'm surprised they didn't call him the Riot Squad. So do it today.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah, they would. So they went out, they finally goes out there. Mrs. What the hell is her name? This is Barrett. She's out there trying to listen to me, everyone, just, he's in, he's bad, he's going on,
Starting point is 01:36:15 you guys all need to go home. and everything's under control and everyone's on, nah, and steal, yeah, and she's like, we're trying to get you a good principal. And he's like, we don't want a good principle. We want Mr. Clark. And then Clarence gets up there and takes the blowhorn from her and he's yelling everyone, come on everyone, listen up, settle down.
Starting point is 01:36:39 She might actually have something to say. So everyone just chill, settle down. And let's listen to this old loud mouth, say something. something and he hands the blowhorn back to her and then walks down the stairs. Carlton tried to get on the mic too. Yeah. And Kenesia's, you don't even handle your own responsibilities. Yeah, he tried to say some shit.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Yeah, she screamed at him. Apparently at school knows because everybody's like, ooh. Yeah. So, but they do let Mr. Clark out. He kind of, I don't know how nobody saw him, but he's kind of peeking out there. And he goes out and. and tries to tell them to, uh, slow the rule.
Starting point is 01:37:21 So everyone starts cheering. Everyone's happy. And then, uh, because when, uh, when that Mrs. Barrett is up there yelling and screaming at her, I mean, Kadeja's, she, she jumps in and she starts yelling and saying that, um, Mr. Clark is like, uh, a father to us to, uh, some of the kids that, that don't have a father. He's like the only father they have.
Starting point is 01:37:45 So with that, Mrs. Barr, she ain't trying to hear it. And she's just like, no, no, we can get you a better principal. She's like, no, nope, man, that's when steal. Yeah, we don't want another principal. We want Mr. Clark. Cadizia starts crying again because she's screaming and yelling. And then Joe, Mr. Clark just comes out. And he tries to grab the bullhorn from her.
Starting point is 01:38:10 And then she like pulls it away. Then he just pulls it away from her. Yeah, I'm like, that's not your bullhorn. Who are you? Where is your kid? Yeah. Goodness. So she didn't want to give it up, but the mayor was telling her like, come on, just give it up. So she hands it over to him.
Starting point is 01:38:28 He's telling all the kids they need to calm down and listen and go home. He was happy and proud that they were all there. But this isn't the time. We've got to respect the law and everyone just go home. But then all the kids are like, hell no, we ain't going home. And then, all right. Now the riot squad shows up Because the whole van, the paddy wagon
Starting point is 01:38:48 Police officers just showed up And they all got their night sticks out The news is there Everyone's chan free Mr. Clark and no All this so he just come on you guys We need to go But then Mrs. What's the um
Starting point is 01:39:05 This is Levias Levi's Levis Levis Mis Leviess The vice principal she shows up With the test scores And then she's like here and he starts yelling at her and goes, why didn't you, why don't you, why aren't you controlling these kids? And then she's like, no.
Starting point is 01:39:19 And then she's just, here, you need to read this. He's yelling at her. She just, shut up and read this. So he takes it and he opens it up. And it's the test scores for the basic skills, uh, tests. And I think it was over 75%. Yep. Everyone east side high passed it.
Starting point is 01:39:40 So they're all good. So. And then all of a sudden, what's their name? doesn't have power no more. Nope. And the mayor even tries to get in on the hoot and hollering everybody and be all happy because they all passed the minimum basic skills test. And everybody's hooting and hollering and screaming and having it.
Starting point is 01:40:02 So, I mean, again, in our eyes, we did see that Mr. Joe, Mr. Joe Clark did do a good job. He turned that school around as well as the help from the teachers and everyone else. they all did their part to help these students passed the basic skills test. And they tries to get the mayor to come in to say something. And then what does he tell him? He says something stupid. Mr. Mayor, on behalf of myself,
Starting point is 01:40:30 I'm just reading this, everyone. On behalf of the students at East Side High, you can tell the state to go to hell. Because you had a state as well as that dumb bitch They were all trying to get him fired and everything. So the mayor was like, fuck this and then goes back inside. So I assume they just let him go, slapped him on the wrist and sent him on his way. But I'm sure he probably had to pay a fine because, again, you are in danger in children by locking the doors and everything.
Starting point is 01:41:03 So, but everyone starts singing the school song. And then that's pretty much a movie. I think we see the seniors graduate at the end. Yeah, during the credits, we see all the seniors graduating and everything. And even Sam's Steel tried to get in on the action. But, I mean, this movie was awesome, man. I mean, I love it. It's a good, feel good story.
Starting point is 01:41:30 I don't know how much they had to embellish on the story to make it a movie. I guess you guys do some reading yourself. You'll know more of the real story of Joe Lewis Clark. I had to click on his name. Well, he passed away in 2020. He was 82. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess Wikipedia, go on there and you can read everything about him. But he turned that school around in the movie.
Starting point is 01:42:04 I don't know how it was in real life. Well, I mean, he had to have done enough. for them to make a movie out of it. Yeah, I mean, I never even heard of this guy until this movie came out. So, and then I found out that it was based on true story. So, yeah, as far as everything else and Kid Ray and the drug dealer guy going in Air Force, I don't know. Oh, Kid Ray made it past a year. Yeah, man, come on.
Starting point is 01:42:35 I mean, I never seen him in anything else. let me see Kid Ray What was his name? His real name Uh Alex Ramirez
Starting point is 01:42:51 Ramagora Oh, there he is Romagera Sounds right Yeah, I'll go with that He's only did this
Starting point is 01:43:05 And as the world turns One episode still alive, so I guess that's good. Yeah, maybe he just didn't want to act anymore. All right. Damn, they didn't even give these guys names. They gave other people names.
Starting point is 01:43:27 They gave Chris or Spider. They gave him a name. But the three kids that were singing, they called him white boy singer. I mean I mean you read the credits you know who they're talking about
Starting point is 01:43:43 yeah but um if Michael imperial and Peerola however you say is like we didn't know him at that time he was able to get a
Starting point is 01:43:57 get a name yeah you're going to be George was this his first thing he had done George George Let me see. Actor, he's got 103 acting credits.
Starting point is 01:44:13 He's in a lot of stuff. I mean, the first time I'm seen him. Second movie. All right. He played, he was in some movie called Alexa, where he played Acidhead. All right. And then good fellows was right after. See, that was the first thing that I remember him in.
Starting point is 01:44:38 he was the one that uh no you said i was a bright spider joe betsy shot him in the foot go fuck yourself Tommy bandage is bigger than your fucking head he was in jungle fever i haven't seen that movie in a wow yeah he's a knock on backs he was I don't even remember that the bad boys he was jojo
Starting point is 01:45:02 he was yeah the the little snitch that they had to go see at the tire shop. Oh, okay. I was thinking of Champan bad boys. Oh, no. He was in basketball
Starting point is 01:45:17 diaries, clockers, dead presidents. I remember him in dead presidents. Yeah, to put his stomach back in. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:25 he was in during the Vietnam scene. He did a comedy. Oh, my baby's daddy. That's what I remember. He was good in that show on Hulu.
Starting point is 01:45:36 this fool yeah he wasn't yeah that show was hell of funny if you guys haven't seen this fool check that show out that show's awesome and I believe
Starting point is 01:45:49 we are getting the second season too so that's cool well everyone that is lean on me your pick yeah we're gonna stay with HBO max
Starting point is 01:46:04 or whatever they call it They'd be changing a name here pretty soon. To what? Because they, what you call it, bought it, Discovery. I heard they're just going to call it Max. Can't be home box office anymore? I don't know. Well, because you're going to get all the discovery stuff for free,
Starting point is 01:46:27 all combined with HBO Max. All right. Well, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. First of all, I'm going to tell you that much. much.
Starting point is 01:46:39 All right, everyone. We're going to go to 2008. I know some of you may not like her anymore, but we're going to go to 2008s. This is on HBO Max. Set it off. Stony.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Queen Latifah. Fox before she missed her face up. You know what? You get hints. of Jada now in this role. You get little hands. But I love this movie, mainly for Queen Latifah. She plays Cleo, but yeah, we're going to come back to you with the set it off.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Nice. There is a, there's more school movies that I want to eventually get to as well. But I hadn't seen set it off in a while. So give me a reason to watch it. Oh, this is the, uh, the director's cut. I don't know what's. what's new do you I think some of the bank robbery scenes are kind of extended a little bit but all right I've seen it enough to I will know if there's something new in it so that's good
Starting point is 01:47:53 but I want to say the the thing with um without really talking about it because the thing with uh stony's brother how he goes out I think there's yeah that's a little bit extended I think yeah that was what's his name not their brother but the guy he was hanging out with was um from menace yeah the dude the cane beat up what's up now partner
Starting point is 01:48:20 yeah that guy I liked him he was also in the tales from the hood don't be a menace oh when they made them do the walk again I love that movie you guys ever see don't be a menace where you're drinking your juice
Starting point is 01:48:39 to the hood. Check that shit out. That's just hell of funny. You ever heard any of his music? He's got music? Yeah. Well, this was like back then. I think he went by caffeine. I don't even know his name. Are the caffeine? Now you're making it you listen. You got out to search for it. I think this was like in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:49:01 What's his real name, though? I don't. No. I couldn't even tell you his name. He's just one of those. I just remember him from menace to society. Don't Be Menace. And he's also in players club. I saw that movie once.
Starting point is 01:49:23 And I remember it being like, thought it was going to be a comedy and it ended up being like serious. There's some comedic parts to it. What happened to Lorenz Tate? He kind of just disappeared. I think he has a production company. company with his brother. Does he?
Starting point is 01:49:41 All right. What the hell was that guy's name? Samuel Monroe, Jr. That sounds about right. And he's got music? I'm almost positive. He's the one I'm thinking about. He went by caffeine.
Starting point is 01:50:05 He's a West Coast rapper. Hmm. Because I think he was trying to capitalize off Menace Society. Oh, here it is. Caffeined. What the hell? Man, who signed me out?
Starting point is 01:50:31 These damn kids and just stop touching my computer. Signed out of my YouTube account. Get, mother. Getting ads now. Damn kids. I'll tell these kids, stop touching my shit. I don't know. Take it too long.
Starting point is 01:50:54 They got like a billion ads. So I don't know what this guy is. what this guy sounds like yeah he's uh says he's work with legendary producers battle cat jelly roll a lot of a lot of West Coast producers
Starting point is 01:51:07 he was on Jive records hmm caffeine actually it's not caffeine it's cafe but cafe Malano I guess
Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, this is just a podcast or something He's on. It's not even music. I'll try to find it and I'll send it to you. Yeah, you're going to have to find it for me. But all right, everyone. Yeah, now we're just rambling. That was lean on me.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Come back next week for set it off. Stoney. Lover, lover, hater, everyone. I loved her at this point, but I don't know about now. She's getting in the tank. My favorite data was low down dirty shame, Jada as peaches. I like to turn this or set it off and Eddie Murphy. Oh, was the Nanny Professor.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Miss Purley. Yeah, I liked her in that. Oh, what's, oh, no, Janet Jackson was in the second one. The second one. I don't remember And the clumps But anyway We ain't talking about those movies
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