The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #41: Lean On Me (1989)
Episode Date: March 29, 2023This episode Brian and Nez make a visit to East Side High to help out Principal Joe Clark in the 1989 drama classic LEAN ON ME. Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.face...book.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com
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What have you been thinking about all this time?
Why should I believe you now?
Because I change my ways.
I don't believe you, Sam's.
I don't think you've changed a thing.
Go on, jump.
No, I don't want to jump.
Yes, you do.
You smoke crack, don't you?
You smoke crack, don't you?
Look at me, boy!
Don't you smoke crack?
Yeah, sir.
You know what that does to you?
Huh?
No, sir.
It kills your brain cells, son.
it kills your brain cells.
Now when you're destroying your brain cells,
you're doing the same thing as killing yourself.
You're destroying this floor.
Now, I say, if you want to kill yourself,
don't fuck around with it.
Go on and do it expeditiously.
Now, go in and jump.
Jump!
No, I don't want to kill myself.
I'm back to another episode of THR
present streamfeans.
I'm your host Brian.
And, of course, always with me.
This is my brother, Nez.
What's up, man?
Yo, man.
We're back, everyone.
Thanks, everyone listening to
the action returns.
I know it took us forever,
but we're back.
Give you more.
Hey,
you're getting stream things.
I think,
what,
this would be the third one in about a month?
I think so.
Yeah.
We did two back to back.
Yeah.
Who was it the principal?
What was the other one?
Oh,
was it Roller Boys or?
Yeah.
That's about 90s classic.
shout out to Corey Ane.
Rest of peace.
We still got to do that one review.
The VHS one.
Shit,
I wish I still had that record.
I might have it.
I don't know.
I don't know what was happening.
I must have just been tired.
I don't know what was happening with me because I was going with it.
I was like,
did they mention him in the movie?
they must have
I don't even remember
I need to rewatch that whole movie
I don't even remember any of it now
I still didn't even watch
the 99
I didn't watch that one
yeah
that one's
takes a little bit of a dip
after 94
I still need to watch
um
was it Talesman the Hood 3
was there a third one
uh with
um
Tony Todd?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's the third one.
It wasn't
Keith David and the second one?
Yeah, not David Keith.
Yeah.
But
we are here to talk about
1989.
Yep, 89's
Lean on me.
This is the school
no one cared about.
We are in a big
of emergency base
and my word is long.
are the kids no one wanted.
And the law says, do whatever you have to.
This is the man who's giving them all an education.
Morgan Freeman stars in the true story of Joe Clark
from the director of Rocky and the Karate Kid.
Lean on Me, read in PG-13.
Starts Friday, March 3rd at a theater near you.
Drama action is what is listed on Google.
All right.
all them action scenes going on.
Well, there was some in the beginning.
When he had his bat and he was like, you can call me Batman.
All right, Google, you're killing me here.
All right.
In this fact-based film, a New Jersey superintendent, Dr. Frank Napier,
watches helplessly as Eastside High becomes the lowest ranked school in the state,
with nowhere else to turn Dr. Napier and Liz Maverick ex-teacher, Joe Clark, to take over as principal of the declining school.
Unfortunately for Clark, before he can focus on improving the student body's state exam scores,
he has to somehow rid the school of its gang and narcotics problem.
All right.
IMDB, the dedicated but tyrannical Joe Clark is appointed the principal.
of a decaying intercity school
he is determined to
improve by any and all
means and this
stars of course the
legendary Morgan Freeman
Beverly Todd
Robert
I always mess up his last name
Google Dr. Napier
he played Dr. Napier
Benson
are you old for worse
Alan North
Lynn Thigpin
Robin Bartlett
Michael Beach
Ethan Phillips
Sandra Reeves Phillips
my boy where is he at
he's way down the cast list
steel yeah
damn where is he
yeah
put him way down
Tony Todd was in here
yeah as Mr.
Mr. Wright
or you're looking for candy man
bitch
yeah
are you even in the cast list
Michael Imperialioli from
Sopranos fame
Was one of the kids that got kicked out
Spider
Yeah
He had a name
George
Yeah where is steel
I know they didn't do my boy like that
He's not even listed
I was looking on Wikipedia and I saw him
I was looking on our MDV
He is he's a
Germaine Hopkins
Thomas Sams.
Yeah, aka Huggy.
Steel.
Everyone.
Yeah, he got into some
beef.
Trying to buy 200 pounds of
weed from undercover
cop.
Yeah, that's always a bad idea.
They're about to give him
five years. I was like, damn, five
years just for weed?
Damn.
And then he
I think he tried to buy
more weed, no, he got pulled over.
And he had, I think he had like five pounds of weed in his trunk or something.
And they were going to just throw the book at him.
But then they were like, man, she's just weed and glass them on the wrist.
Some people just shouldn't be doing shit.
If you already got busted for once, man, then don't do it again.
You know, some people got to learn a hard way.
I guess, man.
I think he might
went to jail for a little while,
but he didn't go to,
he was about to go to prison,
but they didn't,
they didn't send him in prison.
And after that second time,
he got supervised probation.
I was like,
all right,
well,
that's better than going to jail.
I had to read up on all this,
everyone.
I didn't,
I didn't just pull this out my ass.
I remember what it happened.
I didn't.
When you said something happened to him,
I was like,
Damn, what happened?
I was glad to look it up.
Yeah, because I remember, I remember him getting in trouble.
And then when he got in trouble the second time, I was like the second time for weed.
Yeah.
Damn.
It was like, damn.
What was the, not Kid Ray?
What was the drug dealer's name?
Oh, damn.
This is great podcasting because I forgot.
Because I don't know if he had a name or not.
I mean, because Kid Ray was one of his.
crew so because he at least
had a few lines. I don't know if Kid Ray
was one of his crew.
He was trying to be. Yeah, until he
got smacked up. I think
because, I don't know,
maybe he came up short.
Yeah, he didn't have his money. He was trying
to buy all them gold chains and
nice clothes and
trying to, what do he say?
What did he say? What did you tell him, Mr. Clark? He was
trying to look apart.
Yep.
Kid Ray. That was
the late 80s, everyone.
especially Spider.
I mean, he's on.
I know he's Christopher on a soprano.
I just started watching that for the first time.
It's one of them was my probably top three all-time favorite shows.
I'm still on the first season, man.
But it's pretty good, man.
I like what's going on.
Yeah, it really picks up after, after you, once you get into the second season.
All right.
Yeah, I don't know what that guy's name was.
Wasn't Clarence, was it?
Tyrone
Jackson
No, that was one of the other guys
I don't know why eight mile popped in my head
He was one of the dudes
That was hanging out
He was doing the impressions of
The class clown
Yeah, that guy
Well, I think he was the one dude
That was supposed to be the
Nice clean cut
kid student body
president but this one girl
pregnant. Yeah, he's on the knocked up
what's her name? Canisha.
Yeah.
Karen
Molina White.
Is that her?
Yeah.
She gets
looking at her
IMDB.
She looks totally different
now. All right, man, I guess
I don't look like I did
in 89, everyone. So, I
wish I did.
I think I forgot to say
this is directed by John G.
Alidson,
written by Michael Schiffer.
And music was done by
Bill Conti.
So
next.
He's got directed Rockies?
Yeah.
And karate kids?
Yeah.
This is the news to me,
everyone.
You didn't know that?
No.
I had to
I was like, damn.
shitty director hell of shit.
I'm sorry,
everyone. This is
hell of news and me. Fuck, he did
Rocky. Karate Kid 2 and 3.
Rocky 5.
A.k.a. Creed 3.
Well, alert.
Now neighbors,
not the new neighbor is. Old one from 81.
with the late grade
John Volusci and Dan Aykroyd
Damn one night in heaven
He directed that too fuck
Is this guy still alive?
I
No he passed in
2017
He's got a nice filmography
Yeah he does shit
Um
Did you watch uh
Hood's uh prim cinema
Prim cinema
for this one
I think I did.
I don't remember that one as much.
He tore this one apart.
He was like, man, he goes, who wrote this?
He goes, that's not even how schools be, you know, as he was going off on this show.
Oh, man.
I saw this on, I rented it.
I had to have been in the 90s when I, when I seen it.
because I was up here where I live now when I just visited and I wasn't married.
It was before I was married.
We went and ran in movies and my wife or my wife, she wanted to watch it.
So I'm cool.
That was the first time I'd seen this movie.
And I've always loved this movie.
I thought it was really good.
I liked this type of stories.
But I did do some reading on it.
They were saying that this, they kind of,
Hollywood did it up and like most of this didn't happen most of this didn't happen
you mean he didn't become Batman I don't know I don't know about that but I guess a
lot of it they were saying it didn't didn't happen but block I don't know
I wasn't which plays with his clipboard but I I've seen it just multiple times
I love this movie it was really good I liked what was
going on and the whole story.
Morgan Freeman, man, he's good and
everything he's in.
So this is a younger
Morgan Freeman.
So he was awesome.
I hate
the mom in this
the Lynn
Dick Penn.
Yeah, her. She played
Leona Barrett. I don't know who her kid was.
Every time I watch this movie
and like when I watch this movie
with my wife, we're always like,
who the fuck was her kid?
It was one of the kids that got kicked out.
It was probably, uh,
we'll just call him Clarence,
the drug dealer.
He had a plan though.
Well,
he was going to the Air Force.
Yeah,
you ain't nothing money.
But yeah,
this movie was awesome,
man.
I love this movie.
When was the first time he saw it?
Probably,
probably the same time you did.
Uh,
this was a rent.
I think I was
Before I was with my wife
I met her through her family
I used to as a kid used to hang out with her brother and her cousins
And used to go to her aunt's house and
We used to like during the weekends go rent videos
And this was one of the videos
We rented and we just kind of blown away
Because
You know the I think you know the
they label it as drama.
I've never heard it labeled as action.
But being it labeled as drama, you know, we were just kind of like,
we don't want to watch it.
But when we got into it, we were like, this is hell of good.
The acting's solid in it.
You know, there's a good message in it.
Joe Clark kind of reminds me of my high school vice principal because he was kind of,
I don't want to say, I'm DB labeled him tyrant.
But he kind of he kind of did things his own way to get shit done and it was sometimes not
Not looked good upon from the school board, but
You know, we had we had some trouble makers at our school
You know now my principals were soft
Well my my vice president, he wasn't Batman. He was a pool cute man. He had the
The thicker end of the pool cube that
that he had to, that story enough for another time.
I do remember the first elementary school I went to,
Bella Vista in Oakland.
I cannot remember the principal's name.
He was older white gentleman.
I remember him being nice,
but I remember I went into his office one time.
I wasn't in trouble.
And I was looking around and he's got the principal in his suit
with a big giant fancy wood desk.
He's got little plaques and things on that thing.
There's awards he's earned.
I don't know, principal of the year or whatever.
But he had a huge paddle.
A discipline paddle.
I think it said discipline on it or something like that.
And I don't know.
I just maybe just hung it on the wall as a joke.
I don't know.
I don't ever remember hearing anyone getting hit with that thing.
But different times, everyone, because then that's cool.
That was the time.
I remember getting hit in the hand with a ruler or also a pointer stick, those wooden ones.
And I remember my kindergarten teacher, if we were acting up, what the hell is her name?
Mrs. Predivik, white lady, kind of a big, heavy set lady.
I remember I was, I know we were doing a test.
finished it and I flipped the paper over and I was just kind of just drawing on the back.
I basically just traced whatever I could see through the paper.
It was nothing offensive.
It was just whatever some little sea monster or whatever.
And she got hell of mad and like because she was like,
I told you to draw something, not trace.
And she like grabbed my cheek and just pinched it and shook my head.
I was like, damn.
Different times, boys and girls.
This is the back of the days when the T.
just put their hands on you and hit you and all this.
Oh, man.
And the lady who hit me,
it was my second grade teacher,
Miss Louis,
Chinese lady.
I don't remember what I did.
I think I was just fucking up in class,
and she made me walk up to her desk.
She pulled her ruler out.
Stick your hands out.
I was like,
what did you?
I said, put your hands out.
So I had my,
my hands out like palms up she went no knuckles up oh fuck whack wab of both hands i was like whoa
bringing me back to my childhood with my mother it was always hold hold your hand out and you'd
always flip your hands over and then it's like nope turn them around oh yeah this is when the teachers
could grab you and discipline you if you were fucking up but can't do that now man
kids. Yeah. Times
of change because
it was like that when we were kids, but
let your kid come home
and say the teacher like
yoked your kid up
all crazy.
Oh no, man.
All the videos I see, especially on Twitter
school fights.
You see the one
where the girl broke the teacher's leg?
She was like
beating on her until she like fell over.
And then she like, I guess when she fell over, she like broke her leg.
Yeah.
I seen the one that was two dudes were, sorry everyone, but two guys were arguing about something.
One of them had like a hood over his head and his hoodie.
And then I guess he was just swinging and the teacher tried to get in the way or stop it.
And he hit the teacher in the head.
You just see her kind of just stumble.
And then this other student comes out of nowhere.
and just bow drop that dude.
The kid that was like, you have to fucking
teacher. Yeah.
That shit ain't cool.
He like clocked that one and then he
threw the other dude on the ground.
That ain't cool. He was yelling
and the teacher went, hey, I know it wasn't cool.
It's all right. I was like, damn.
Yeah, man. That one made me kind of proud though.
Yeah, I was like, good. He stepped up.
Or those other ones when they're just fighting the teachers
and everything.
No. Only one, I never fought.
any teachers. I mean, yeah, I'm
fucked up in school and everything, but I didn't
never threatened
teachers or anything.
I'm not proud of it
everyone, but I don't know if I've ever said
this on any show, but I am
there was a fight going on during
school. And you know, fights
break out, everyone just, ah, everyone crowds
around and we're all hooting and hollering, cheering,
for whoever. It's amazing how
that circle forms so quick.
Yeah.
So we're all in there and
the dean.
I can't remember his name.
They called him Frosty, because he had, like, gray hair and gray mustache.
He came in, and he was trying to be, he was bent over right in front of me.
And he was trying to pull the two guys apart.
I don't know why I did it.
I didn't, like, kick him.
But he was, like, coming.
He was leaning back towards me, and I held my foot up.
And it, like, bumped him.
And I might have shoved him a little.
I'm like I said,
it didn't.
And he fell.
He ran into your foot.
Yeah,
he ran into my foot.
And then he fell on top of the guys.
As soon as that happened,
everybody went,
whoosh,
just took off running.
We all ran because the bell rang
and we all just sitting sat in class.
A couple periods later,
some guy came with him.
He said,
Hey, man,
I was like,
yeah,
what's up?
And he goes,
I heard you.
the dean. I was like, what? Who told you that?
They were like, yeah, man, if I was saying you kicked the dean,
because some guys were fighting and I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
But that's as far as it went. I mean, I was waiting to get called into the office.
I figured someone would have said it was me, but I don't know. I mean, it did get around
because multiple people came up to me. Man, heard you kicked out. I was like, I don't know.
Where you guys are getting that from? I didn't kick nobody.
He ran into my foot.
But this movie, man, it starts off with a punch, man.
We see a nice school.
East Side High.
I think it was back in the 60s.
And then Joe Clark is working there.
Mr. Clark, Margaret Freeman, his character.
And he's just teaching the school.
Well, it was all in this, back in the day when it was a nice school, predominantly white area and a bunch of white kids in his school.
And then, uh, all white kids.
He gets, uh, Benson.
That's all I see him as everyone.
He, uh, he comes into the class and tells Joe that, hey, man, these guys are, they're, they're having a meeting about the school.
I think it was like union stuff because that's what he said.
Yeah.
started saying so he goes in there and they were basically like they were just going to side with
the school board and everything and I think it was a more just like teachers rights things instead
of striking or whatever um Joe was Mr. Clark was trying to pull all the teachers together
now we need they we need to stand together and stand strong my mom was a teacher she was
educator and she had to strike many many times.
Has she ever seen this?
Probably.
Because I remember when the teachers went on strike
and my mom was out there, picketing and everything.
I supported my mom, but I still had to go to school.
I mean, it was the law.
It wasn't like, hey, teachers aren't there.
We don't have to go to school.
No, all the substitutes came in.
But anyway, so they were basically,
those teachers were in there, were siding with the school board.
And he was like, you know what?
I'm out.
Because then they made him go to another school.
I think it was District 6 or whatever because they told him,
because they knew he was going to be the one to stand up to the school board.
Yeah, I think they made an agreement.
I think they gave into some of the demands, but he had to go.
He had to go to another little school.
I think it was just teaching the elementary school.
Yeah, I was talking about sandbox problems and stuff like that.
Yeah, so he was back in the hippie days.
Everyone else was in suits and he wasn't.
And he had the Afro.
Prim said the sideways afro.
They have like a dashiki on?
Yes.
He's like, I'm out of here.
And Benson's like, come on, man.
He goes, nope.
And he goes, those guys can get everything they wanted.
And then flash forward 20 years to 19.
I like how he put that dollar on that dude's head.
It was like pay bills.
Because he told him,
he was like,
you guys are just selling out for money.
So I'm out of here.
I can't be a part of this.
I'm going to go teach elementary kids.
Because I don't know what class.
I think he had a history class when he was a teacher.
So I loved how he just walked and just left the school.
It was a nice,
nice school, clean hallway, and then it just does that, uh, that little fade into to 20 years later
and the school is just fucked up.
It is like the apocalypse happened in that school was something.
It looked like, um, Brandell and the principal.
Shout out to everyone to listen to that one.
It looked like that's cool.
It was just, or the school in, uh, class in 1984, I was just, just, just, just,
a wreck spray paint everywhere.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe there's schools like this in the U.S.
Um, not in my schools are like this.
Yeah.
Even the, the worst school, um, from what I,
well, one of the worst schools in, uh, in Oakland.
It was just because of the neighborhood in West Oakland,
McClimins, a really bad neighborhood.
Right in right in the hood.
And I went to summer school there and I was like, oh, man, I didn't want to go because of where.
I never, ever hung out in West Oakland just because of the area.
And every time I had to go through there, man, I just skate through there as fast as I could.
So I got to that school, I was expecting it to be this, before this movie came out.
I was expecting it to be like class in 1984 all fucked up and spray paint all over the place.
Nope.
It was just like a normal school.
Everything there was no, of course is graffiti in the bathrooms, but like not on the walls or lockers or anything.
So I was like, hmm.
So movies, everyone.
So I don't know, maybe East Side High, if this was really like that or that's where they dramatized it up.
But yeah, the school was just a red.
and it just
I think they picked a good song
to start this movie off
Guns and Roses,
welcome to the juggle
because that's exactly what it was
and it's just,
it was just chaos
in the halls
and in the lunchroom everywhere
that one drug dealer guy
is walking around
selling drugs
all out in the open
that kids are just
throwing toilets to the
window and these
girls
were they just
beating up that one girl in the bathroom
and then tore her top off or
were they just trying to rob her?
They didn't really beat her up.
They just tore her clothes off.
They were pushing her around and then they just
tore her shirt off.
That was fucked up because
the principal or the vice principal.
Well, I don't know if she was vice principal then.
Mrs. Levis,
I think that's her name.
she was outside
because that girl came running out of the bathroom
with top and titty's flopping
and she kind of put her jacket over her
and then
they were like ah
everyone laughing and screaming
then one of those students was trying to
hit on her
he was like what's up what's up
I was like you're doing a good job
of making this school look bad
and they had that one white teacher up against the wall.
He just looked scared.
Like, you didn't even know what was happening.
So, I mean, it was just, yeah, and there was just fights breaking out.
Everyone just doing what they were doing.
And the one drug dealer kid, he gets his drugs from one of the teachers because he got the scene where he's waiting for him at the side door.
And he walks up and he opens up his briefcase.
And it's just every drug imaginable.
and he just gives him like a lot of cash and gets what he wants.
And then he wrote,
that was a teacher.
He looked like a drug dealer.
Well,
I always thought it was a teacher.
He was a suit and tie.
He looked like a teacher.
He had like a business briefcase.
He might have been because I'm watching it right now.
He goes right into the school.
Because whoever this guy,
he kind of reminds me of that dude,
um,
was it crazy?
Kay and the first
Tales from the Hood.
Okay, I know.
There was that guy that went to prison
and everything.
It looked like that guy, but I don't think it was
him. And he's walking around
selling drugs. He goes up to steal.
He's steal everyone.
But his name is Thomas Sams, a little chubby kid.
We got seen juice.
We'll get to that one too, eventually, everyone.
He's selling crack to
to steal and
Kenesha
they kind of
keep showing her
she can't be
popping up
where all the
action is going on
getting raised
walking around
Kenesha's always
there with something
bad's happening
just shaking her
head
they have
guys buying
guns
from people
and then there's
a huge fight
in the
in the lunchroom
where the servers
are they're in
like it's like
a cage
or something
I'm going to
tell you
right now
I'm not working
in some place where I have to be protected like that.
Yeah, I mean, the only cages we had was for the, um, the little snack bar that was down
by the gym.
It was a one, like a one little room thing and there was like a sink and a refrigerator
in there and they sold like soda and chips and snacks and shit like that out of there.
I think that only had those little cages over the windows because it was that one building
that wasn't connected to.
the school or anything
but our lunchroom didn't
have those cages and everything
so but yeah
this big fight breaks out
between a black guy
and I think he's Mexican
and I over some money and then
this other teacher just comes
in and tries to break it up
and then they just turn on him and then just
start beating the shit of his teacher
and slamming his head on the ground
until blood's
bursting out and then
all hell's breaking loose the cops are there and they go hauling out the the teachers faces all bloody his head's bloody he's got oxygen mask and oh man while my guns and roses are still blasting this is all just the beginning and we finish off this whole montage of steel getting locked in his locker yeah I don't know how big these lockers are man we have a little skinny ones yeah I don't know how he fit in his locker
yeah they just threw him in there and shut it and then
these lockers are all old and beat up so no they put a padlock
on it in canesia is right there
I like how they go get help and he's screaming help and he's
what was that the the janitor just there
not even not even caring
it did hell no he didn't he just ain't that ain't got nothing to do me
he just was the janet or reverend slap
Reverend Slappy.
So, yeah, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, I love that beginning.
So the schools just run, everybody running amok.
All hell's breaking loose in it.
The mayor and Benson and, uh, Mr. Rosenberg.
I don't know who he was.
I think he was a lawyer.
They were trying to, I guess all the test scores in that school were like super low.
And if they didn't bring them up, they were just going to shut.
that school down. But I guess that was the only high school in that district for all the other for all these kids.
And that was one of those schools like, like Brandell and the principal were all the, all the riffraff got sent to that school.
So they're trying to, well, we need a, we need a principal. And they're like, we don't know what we're going to do.
And I guess it's a voting year because the mayor is trying to just get whatever he can to try to keep stay mayor.
and they're like, well, well, the only one we can think of is one guy.
And you say, yeah, the mayor was like, hell no, anybody but him.
And he's like, well, who else are we going to get?
So he's like, well, go ahead.
But you got to, you got to control him.
So Benson, Dr. Napier, he goes to that school where Joe Clark is and tries to convince him to be a principal.
but he he wasn't having it at first he was like what he was just trying to just he's like oh man
I mean but he eventually I think I don't know I mean if I was Joe I would just stuck it out at the
school and dealt with sandbox problems they go into some school it's all crazy but he because he
told him was yeah man we need you to go in there and help get those test scores up and he's like
ah gets all mad and tells them all
all right well all right let's do this so he ends up going to east side high but i like when he walks
in there and just yeah look like a battle zone everything's just like a bomb went off in there everything
destroyed remember the the music they're playing like adding to it he's just in the worst place
ever and uh he must have been keeping up with east side eye because he just looks like shocked
Yeah, he didn't like, well, I guess when you leave some place on a bad note, man, you don't, you don't want to go back there.
I mean, I've been plenty of jobs that I hated and I never returned to those places because it just gives me bad memories.
Yeah.
So he goes into the school.
All right.
I assume this was way before school because like he's got every teacher and the whole custodian crew and Candyman's in there.
What the hell is his name?
Mr. Wright.
His avenging angel.
He was head to security.
I heard you're looking for Candyman, bitch.
Yeah, this is the young, young Tony Todd, man.
He an All-Star.
I think this was after a platoon.
But, um, you ever met him?
No, isn't he supposed to be his primary this year?
Oh, is he?
if you get that chance man meet him because he's he's he's he's hell of cool
me and mike met him at uh terror and riverside or whatever the hell
a little con was it was kind of a smaller con there wasn't too many people there but he was
just sitting there me and mike went up and we had this long conversation with him he was
he was hell of cool so you guys ever get to meet tony cod this was right before he did
a Night of a Living Dead remake.
Oh, we did?
Will we ever do that?
No, we should.
Yeah, well, put that on the list.
Original remake for 31 days.
I know I did the first, the original one,
and I did, was it Mike and I?
I think we did original remake for Dawn of the Dead.
But I guess we can have to do Night of Living Dead,
but anyway,
I like this part too because he gets all those teachers in there
and he just lays down the law on what they're doing.
And he just reamed everyone out saying that these kids don't have the knowledge to score in the basic skills test.
Because he was just yelling out.
He goes, you guys basically aren't doing shit.
And it's proven it.
So he's just like, we're going to turn this school around.
I mean, I couldn't give you word for word or what he said.
But he's like, we're going to turn this school around.
and I'm the boss
so what everything I say goes
because I'm the HNIC
you guys should figure that out
I was not saying figure that one out
but I did like
I mean the
the body was it was the vice principal
her assistant
she she explains it
to the white teacher
he didn't know it
but you know what I mean
Yeah.
There's only one boss in this place, and that's me.
The HNIC.
Are there any questions?
Mr. Wright?
The head nigger in charge.
Speaking of that, back when President Obama was the leader, I was in Oakland, and I was just skating around, and this guy's selling t-shirts.
It was like, I think it was right after he became president.
I was a picture of him on it.
Obama sitting there smiling and under it, HNIC.
I saw that shirt.
I was like, oh, hell yeah.
Look that up, everyone.
I go to Urban Dictionary.
So I was going to buy it just to buy it, man, because my friend had one.
No, he had a post.
in his room.
He said he had the shirt,
but he doesn't know what he did with it.
And I mean,
shout out to my boy, man.
His mom,
she got
Jesus and then President
Obama's picture right next to
a boy in her house
in the dining room.
That was like I've been to that household
before.
Yeah.
Awesome ladies.
She always fed me.
So yeah, this is when Joe kind of just tells them,
all right, get all the kids into the auditorium for an assembly.
And yeah, it's just what you think,
especially in this badass school.
He walks in there, everyone just smoking cigarettes,
being stupid, teachers can't control nobody.
The vice principal's in here.
But then he kind of just, is this normal?
And she's like, yeah, I'm a frienderats.
afraid so. So he's like, all right. So he had her get all, I guess all the students that just are just messing up, had all her names on the list, made them all get on stage. So as he's kind of going through the schools, when he runs into Kenesha, because she remembers him. I guess she was his, her principal when she was in fifth grade. So it was getting good, familiar, friendly face. So she was kind of happy that he was there. So.
He gets up on the stage and everybody in there.
And then he just goes to start clowning everyone saying that they tried to get all the bad kids to sing the school song, but nobody knew it.
Steals up there laughing around.
Spider or Chris from Sopranos is up there.
And the drug dealer guy, I don't know his name, Crazy Kay.
A little denim outfit he had on.
His big old gold chains.
No, I guess there was other white kids.
I was like, was Spine of the only white kid in school?
There was some sprinkled in there.
That's right, because you tried to have those,
I think it was those three of the white guys
tried to sing the school song.
They couldn't do it.
But he goes into telling everyone and goes,
look man he goes
he goes into the whole test score
things and all that with the whole thing but he was
trying to just basically telling everyone
that I'm the new boss
everyone needs to listen to me
and I don't know
how
kicking kids out of school works
but I'm pretty sure
he couldn't kick
all of these kids out at once
no I don't think
this mass
of students can just be what do you call it they're excommunicated
yeah that must have been about 50 kids on that stage
I mean it wouldn't even it wouldn't go down like that
in real life because you are you seen when they were
taking a escort and them out it almost started a little
riot on stage you had like 15 security yards up there
right before you even got on stage
the one guy, Clarence,
the little class cut up guy,
him and some other dude were
rapping.
Get down.
Check it out.
Who's got the crabs?
So,
yeah,
once he told them all,
he was kicking them all out.
That's when the drug dealer guy's,
oh man,
you ain't nothing to me money.
I'm going to get you.
I'm going to the Air Force.
So, yeah, and then his whole squad of security guards came in.
I liked his security crew, all nice guys and suit and ties and everything,
because he was all about business, man.
He wasn't like, he wasn't coming in like no slab.
He had to be the part.
He said they were deputized.
Because, oh, that's right, he made, what's his name,
the fool from Soul Food, Michael Beach, Mr. Darrell, Darnel.
Oh, he demoted him.
Yeah.
That was cold because he was like, I'm demoting you because I'm tired of our football team getting pushed around all over the field.
Thank you.
Sit down.
How did he know that he was a football player?
Because I think it was an English teacher.
He even made the math teacher, the head coach.
Eventually, he made him, we never ever see any kind of sports going on in this.
But he eventually, because when they do one of those montages, when all the kids are,
studying for a test.
He's back in the classroom.
Yeah, it doesn't really seem like football was a priority here.
No, uh,
just trying to get these kids to do the schoolwork is the first one.
But I noticed that all those kids quiet down after they kicked everybody out.
Because everyone just went,
mouth shut everything.
So he just basically told all them,
look, man, this is what we're doing.
And we got rid of all the trash.
So, because he went into telling him that he was like, yeah.
And he goes, these, the people downtown, the school board, they think you guys are just no good.
He said some racial words that I won't say.
But he was like, this is what they think of you.
You're the N-word and your derogatory word for Mexicans and derogatory word for Mexicans.
and derogatory word for white kids.
Theirs didn't sound that bad.
No.
I can't say the N-word.
Yeah.
He said one thing.
You're like, oh, said the next thing, you're like, oh, said the one for the white kids.
You're like, yeah.
But, I mean, he was keeping it real, man.
He was always straightforward with these kids.
That's what I liked about him.
I mean, he didn't try to sugarcoat it.
He was straight up.
So, I mean, not with just the kids with everybody.
So with this flight today, I don't know.
Maybe there is some principals out there like that.
I mean, I'd be all right with it.
I mean, long as he's doing good and getting these kids to learn because I don't remember ever seeing our principal come in and give speeches if he did.
I remember when I graduated.
He was there.
But other than that, I mean, I don't think you're really supposed to see the principal.
I don't remember.
I mean, I might have seen him here and there, but I never seen him come into the classroom.
I mean, I saw the vice principal.
She was always walking around the-
Yeah, you always see the vice principal, but it's always like to the point where you don't even know what the principal looks like.
You think the vice principal is the principal.
Well, my high school.
principal. He was my junior
high principal. And then when
I got out of there after three years, I was like
good, man. Don't get to see him
anymore. And then I walk in
the first day of 10th grade
and there he is. I'm the new principal.
I had another three years
of this motherfucker.
And
he kept calling
me my brother's name because my
brother, same thing. He
had six years. I know
he had three years with him.
in Bay Area, I don't know if it's like this anymore.
Junior high was 7th, 8th night.
My wife says, ah, it's wrong.
Because middle school is, was it 6, 7, 8?
And then high school was 9, 10, 11, 12.
Yeah, when I went to school, middle school was,
or when it was back in my time, it was junior high.
Yeah.
It was 7th 8th.
7 and 8th.
I was 7, 8, 9 when I went.
And everyone goes, no, man.
That's not how it goes.
Well, that's how it went back then.
Because my wife, she graduated before I did.
My wife's a few years older than me.
And she goes, well, that's how it was up here.
I'm saying, well, don't yell at me.
I didn't make up the rules down there.
I just went to school.
Went to school because I had nothing else to do.
But after he kicked everyone out of school,
there's when they have the big emergency school board meeting.
and what's her name?
Mrs. Barrett.
How do you say her last name?
Lean,
Lane.
Thick, and.
Yeah.
Of those you, remember, the Warriors,
she was the DJ.
So,
oh, my God,
I hated her in this.
She was something else that just bothered me.
After her,
after her role in this,
I just,
I didn't like her,
because she was all,
she wasn't where in the world's Carmen San Diego.
She was?
Yeah, she was like the main lady.
I don't even know.
First time I heard about that,
I was on New York Comic-Connor, my friend.
She was like, oh, there's Carmen San Diego.
Oh, like, who?
She's way, way younger than me.
So that's why she, you don't know what that is?
That's a nope.
But yeah, they're having that school meeting,
and she's going off.
and these kids need to be in school.
And he disrespected the black football coach.
And he's crazy and all that.
But he's just sitting there letting her say her thing.
And again,
a lot of these are parents of the kids that are still in school.
And then there's parents of the kids that got kicked out of school.
Yeah, you can tell who the parents are the ones who got kicked out.
Because when he said they're rotten to the cord,
he was like, you're trying to say my kids rotten?
He was like, yeah.
And he goes into,
they goes,
yeah,
he goes,
make these kids pride of themselves.
Help them get off of welfare.
And then everyone,
ah,
everyone starts going off.
But then he goes into his little,
his little sermon,
how God chose him to go to that school and turn it around.
And he goes,
and that's,
it goes,
because he told him,
goes,
God told me,
Joe,
you ain't no good.
So.
he's going to turn that school around and he goes so that this is what i'm going to do and that's why
i kick those bastards out and that's all i'm going to say and he just drops the board he and
drop a mic but might as well drop the mic and rolled out and yeah you can see the people cheering
then you see all the other ones ah that are all mad next day he gets to school early and steal
is sitting on the stairs and uh he's kind of telling hey man i'm one of the kids he got kicked out
school you kicked out and I think you made a mistake.
And then he tells him his name.
He looks it up and he goes, oh, skipping school and smoking crack.
He goes, I don't like how he has on his clipboard right there.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, the kids are already gone.
So why do you still have it?
Steele's like, I don't think, I think he made a mistake.
He's like, nope.
So it's right here.
There's no mistake at all.
Skip the schools, smoking crack.
So he told.
he goes yeah and he goes
he told him
he grabs him
and then he goes up to the roof of the school
and right here all right man
first of all you can maybe
in 89 88 whenever they
film this but
you cannot
endanger children
at all so
he's crazy Joe Clark
but I mean
I like what he did here man
this is the the clip that I played
at the beginning.
But he was straight up with them.
I mean, he told him.
And he was like, look, man.
He goes, he goes, what do you've been doing this whole time?
And then he goes, and he goes into yelling at him.
And he goes, he goes, were you scared to tell your father that you dropped out of school?
You got kicked out of school.
And then he goes, my father doesn't live with us, sir.
And then he goes, oh, I just feeling sorry for yourself.
And he goes, well, go on, jump.
And he's like, no, he goes, I got to stay in school.
And he's like, no, you smoke crack, don't you?
And he's yelling at him.
And he goes, you know what crack does?
He goes, it kills your brain cells.
He goes, it's killing yourself, but only slower.
And he goes, you want to do that?
Just jump.
And then Steele starts crying.
He says, I don't want to kill myself.
And then he goes, why should I let you back into my school, Sam's?
And then, you know, because I'm going to do good.
And I'm going to go to class and do my work.
So he kind of just, he goes, all right, well, I'm going to go back on my
on word because you're a little baby and you don't know shit so he tells him all right he's
going to let him back into school but I mean what he said I just kind of glared over everything
but what he was saying to him was true though man I mean I mean he was he just going along
with the crowd because that's what it seemed like steel was doing he was yeah because I mean if he
really didn't care he wouldn't have showed up waiting for
Mr. Clark on the on the doorstep.
Yeah.
He would have just been doing whatever he was doing with all the rest of the kids that got kicked out.
Yeah, because he was the only one that tried to come back.
The drug dealer comes back later.
Well, he wanted to come back.
For different reasons.
He wanted to come back to go to school.
So he lit him up and he let him with, I don't know, yeah, this was like early in the
the morning so nobody was even at school yet so
nobody would even believe to him that
Mr. Clark took him on the roof and told him to jump because
nobody was around
the audience is I don't know we stopped
it is an iconic scene though the whole
it kills your brain cells it kills your brains
you know poking him in the head yeah
but I mean he had to say that to him he
had to let him know because later on when
we're dealing with kid Ray he said to say
He didn't do with no drugs or anything,
but he kind of laid into him too and kept it real.
Yeah, because Kid Ray, he was like on the opposite end of Sam's,
where basically those dealing with the same thing,
but on the opposite end,
he wanted to be the one to get all the attention,
the money,
the basically the glitz and glamour of it.
Yeah, because the scene when they were in the auditorium,
kid Ray is sitting there talking.
talking to one of his boys.
And he goes, yeah, man, he goes, come on.
You need to dress to impress.
And here, I can you some, you need to get some gold.
The stupid gold.
Yeah, because that one girl goes walking by and goes, whoa, man, check her out.
And he goes, and that one guy, well, man, tell her to check me out.
And he goes, oh, you don't like the girlies?
And that's when he goes into him.
So, that was the thing saying stupid.
Well, I must have been your, because I don't remember ever.
any of us saying anything like that.
It's from,
what year did you graduate?
The 99.
Yeah,
and you're 10 years after me.
Well,
nine years.
I graduated in 90.
Well,
I should have graduated in 89,
but I was fucking up for a year.
So I got held back.
Kind of glad that I did.
Well,
not glad that I was fucking up,
but because then all my all my homies that I still,
well not all of them,
but most of them I still talk to today.
So because Mike and I are the same age and he graduated in 89.
We went to a different school.
He went to a Catholic school.
So yeah,
we're back at the school and the lunch.
Oh,
I liked what during the,
when he was reaming out all the teachers,
when he was telling Reverend Slappy,
he goes, yeah,
he goes,
you guys need to take down all those cages in the,
in the cafeterias.
and then paint over all the graffiti.
And he said, get all the kids in detention to help you.
So when he's in the, in the cafeteria,
we've noticed all these, some of the bad kids,
painting over the graffiti on the wall.
So I guess I save you some money and get the kids to do it.
That's what they did in my high school.
You got in trouble.
You had to work with the janitorial crew for like a period.
We had to go in on Saturdays.
And it wasn't like breakfast club, everyone.
As soon as we walked in and checked in,
they handed us a bag and go out and pick up trash for,
I don't know how many hours.
Any younger listeners?
We just went hidden smoke cigarettes.
It wasn't happening up here.
Nobody was showing up on Saturday.
I don't remember what I did.
That was probably something stupid.
But I remember going up there twice, and one of my friends was there.
So I was like, oh, shit, you're here cool.
So I hung out with her.
And, yeah, she passed away a month or so ago.
I had to go down to the Bay Area for her memorial this weekend.
Oh, man.
But we had some good times.
And that was one of them, picking up trash on Saturday detention.
It's sitting down by the back of the school behind the portable smoking cigarettes.
We went to a garbage can or to the dumpster and just started filling up our bag.
Garbage.
So when we came back, we walked up and say, yeah, here's everything we picked up.
Because I think we had to fill, I think it was three bags.
And I was thinking there.
I mean, there was trash scattered all over the place because there was, I know that my buddies, man,
they were down by the football field and they were digging through the bushes.
and you go,
as we're all the trashes,
man,
they filled up their bags
hella quick.
Because after you fill
those bags,
then you,
you,
they let you leave
or you can sit and hang out.
But,
nah,
we,
so we hung out
how long,
we're sitting back
there smoking cigarettes.
But we filled up
those garbage bags
and then they let us go.
But,
yeah,
he's going into the,
into the,
um,
the cafeteria and Sam's
is trying to steal
somebody's meatball.
He starts yelling at it.
him and tell him what are you doing he goes why did I let you back in his school and he goes to learn
he attacks you know he was like what are you doing put that back he's yelling at everybody
he didn't care he had a little blowhorn and everything so he goes why you guys he goes why are
hanging out with him man he goes these guys are much older than you and he's my cousin and we're just
going over music so he makes all those guys get up all right uh sing the the school song and nobody do it
So everyone
They didn't even do anything
Well I guess they made Sam's
Go steal that meatball
But he just lit into everyone
All you guys are
Go through my office
So they were like
And Mr. Darnell
Had to pick up a piece of paper
Oh then you chewed him out
Yeah
Because when he told him
That they were going to sing the school song
I think he was standing next
To the vice principal
and then she dropped something
and he bent down to pick up a piece of paper
and then he turned around
and started screaming
and I told you nobody moves
you know I'm picking up a piece of paper
get to my go to my office
and hit all the kids
and didn't even steal
he started laughing and then he
hit him over the head
because there's a day where you can hit kids
hit students
yeah that almighty clipboard
so after that he goes and uh since nobody knows the school song he charges into the uh the music room
where the choir teacher is teaching all the kids they're supposed to be getting ready for some kind
of concert in new york throw steel right into the piano and he starts going off on her and goes
you need to teach all these kids the school song and she's like nah because she was one of the ones
that uh when he was yelling at everybody in that meeting and she was like
like rolling her eyes the whole time.
Like she wasn't having it.
So he went in there and started yelling at her and said,
you need to stop do what you're doing and tell.
And all these kids need to learn a school song.
And she's like, I'm trying to get ready for a concert and you're in here interrupting us.
And he's like, you know what?
He goes, your school concert is canceled.
And he's like, what?
And he goes, ah, she started yelling at him.
And then he just lights up, all right, you're fired.
She's like, what?
And he's like, yeah.
And he goes, go pack your shit and get that's not what he said.
Basically, that's what he told me.
Get out.
So she said, ah, she started yelling.
You're going to hear from my lawyer.
And it sounds like privilege.
He walked back into the office.
And Mr. Darnell's in there.
Then he comes in.
He goes, I was just trying to pick up a paper.
And he just gets, you disrespecting me in front of the students.
And he goes, I'm a working my ass off for you.
I took the donation, the, the, the motion.
And I'm doing my job.
and you're treating me like
shit or whatever
and he yelled at it
you treat me like trash
he was like no mr darnel
that's what you were picking up
and he said
he said mr darnell's yell
and he goes look man
you show me some goddamn
scabber I'm gonna kick your black ass
and then he just
I can't
he said something to him
and then Mr.
Darnell got hella mad
and picked up his desk
and tipped it over
oh he told him
that he was
suspended or whatever.
I think he says suspended without pay or something.
Yeah, so he kicked him out.
And he's picking him all stuff and the vice prison's
what comes in.
That one guy walks in.
I think he's a math teacher.
He walks in,
what do you want nothing?
They're trying to walk right back out.
So.
She's trying to talk some sense to him because basically she was like,
you got to fill forms out to suspend a teacher.
And then the other teachers,
she's telling them you don't have the authority to fire anybody.
Yeah.
So he, she's,
yeah,
she was trying to go about it the right way.
And he was just straight up.
Hell no.
This is my way or my way or the highway.
He was letting,
he was lighting fools up.
And now we get,
they're all getting ready for the,
the basic skills tests,
montage of all these kids trying to go through.
Just getting everyone.
Well,
at least everyone's in class
and everyone's trying to study
and everything.
He's walking around.
You can tell
when he looks at some of
they work,
the expression on his face.
You can tell
these kids ain't passing.
Because he got Clarence
looking at Hustler.
He had a Hustler magazine.
It is bag.
He's looking at that.
But the schools,
it's the school's starting to turn around.
And all the graffiti is gone
pretty much.
Um, everyone's, uh, in class.
He was yelling at Sam's and Sam's is being all happy and everything.
So, I was a happy montage, right?
Yeah, he did turn the school around.
And then because we see the, the, the school president, he, or he's, I don't know what he was doing, showing them.
He built some kind of model.
I'm like, shouldn't you be doing something else?
I mean, well, I think it was.
more of just a
hey our school
we're turning our school around and we're doing nice and everything
trying to get
I assume these were school board
people
there to see how
how the school was
changed because it wasn't all
it wasn't a war zone or anything anymore and all
the graffiti and everything was gone
and this guy he was
the
the vice of the school
school president
So that's going on.
These kids,
these two girls come running up.
Mr. Clark,
Mr. Clark.
And he goes,
somebody's beating up Kid Ray.
So they go running down a hall to the lunchroom.
And that drug dealer kid that got kicked out.
That wasn't going to the Air Force.
Still in the same clothes.
He comes running in.
He's beating up Kid Ray slapping him around.
And he tries to run out.
That's when he goes face.
face with
Mr. Clark
pulls out of
switchblade.
He goes,
I'm waiting for this.
Come on.
And then he hits the switch blade
out of his head
and clocks him
and he goes down
and Candyman
comes running and they grab them.
Kid Ray's standing there
in his jumpsuit
all beat up
falling over.
So because when he was
talking,
he's a candy man in my eyes
everyone.
He was talking to him.
He told him, I don't know, man.
He got in somehow.
Maybe we just missed him.
So that's when he told him to, all right, you need to chain and padlock all the doors.
All right.
I get that.
You don't want drug dealers and whoever else to come into your school.
But it is a safety issue.
What if there was a fire?
And, yeah, they give you fire drills and all that at school.
I asked my son, do you guys ever do fire drills?
He went sometimes.
Um, thankfully, I've never, we've never had school fires at our school and at the schools I've been to and, and my kids and my grandkids and all that.
But yeah, you line up and you walk out, but now, man, if something happens like everyone, everyone's going to panic and run.
And if these kids are running to that whatever door to get out and it's padlocked.
I don't know, man, but I get it.
I get it, everyone.
I understand why he was trying to do it to keep the riffraff out of his school.
So, but then we see, what's your name, Kenisha?
Yeah, she was all-star on this.
Because other than being everywhere where something bad was going on,
she's sitting out in front of the office.
And Mr. Clark's talking, she finds out that her mom,
I don't think she kicked her out.
I think she's just...
She don't want me no more.
Yeah, so she was telling me, yeah, my mom,
she just doesn't want nothing to do with me anymore.
So Mr. Clark and Mrs. Levis, the vice principal,
they take Kenisha and they go to her house.
Almost get taken out by a jack-lantern.
Yeah, all those little kids,
trick-or-treating and everything.
So they go over to her house and they're...
As soon as the projects, it looks like it.
and they go to her and then her mom's in there.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, they almost didn't get hit with a jack-o-lantern.
So they go in there and the mom's sitting there.
She's just smoking cigarettes and their house is all wrecked.
Her reasoning for kicking her daughter out is,
I think she's in recovery.
She's trying to get herself.
Better, I don't know, either it was either alcohol or drugs.
Well, I guess it's not alcohol.
She's got miller lights sitting on the table.
So it was probably drugs.
I'm not sure.
I know there could have been alcohol.
Maybe it didn't.
But she didn't want her daughter to see her like that.
That's why she kind of just kicked her out.
She's trying to do what she's got to do to survive.
and then Joe
Clark and the vice principal
town and I like look
because Joe is Mr. Clark is telling
like look because you when she was in the fifth
grade you were like one of my
star parents you were always there
but
I mean just life happens everyone
and mom took a wrong turn
and started
abusing whatever drugs
alcohol
so they were telling look man
because it will
she can't be out on the street
and he was telling her
look if we help you get a job
help you live in a better place
will that be good enough
let her come home
so they could
she kind of agreed to it
but I mean
this part was fucked up
I mean just
kicking your kids out
um
I've had some friends like that
family
as well, just not taking care of their kids because of this or that.
Drugs is usually the big, well, the drugs, it was a drug issue in my family.
And, uh, but I can see she was trying to get herself better, but she just, I'm sure she fell
off the wagon or whatever.
So.
Yeah.
But that was the, the reason and why she kicked her out.
And then she agreed to, all right, she can, she can come home and you guys help me out.
will all school principals and all that do that?
I don't know.
I can only base you on the principals that I had.
One of them,
one of my principals,
my elementary school teacher,
I went to two different elementary schools.
One when I was living in my local area,
and then my mom got us to go to a different school,
and that principal was really cool.
Mr.
Schmunk,
I think that was his name.
He was nice.
He was cool.
He only yelled at me once because I was fucking up and he yelled at me.
But I don't know.
Maybe now, I don't know.
Maybe whoever's listening, you have kids,
maybe your child's principal would be cool like this.
But I did like that.
Did this really happen in this story?
I don't know.
But in the movie, they had to add up the drama and everything.
Yeah.
But it was good in the story.
end for her.
Between her and her mom.
She did agree to,
all right, I'm going to get myself clean.
She can live here and I'm sure
they helped her out one way or the other.
It's good now, but
indicia'll pop up later.
We get,
Benson's up there again and he's
reaming them out, trying to tell him
that, look, man, you can't
be doing this, especially with
the locking the doors and going on.
And he, Benson was like yelling at him.
And then Joe turned it around.
I was like, look, man.
He goes, you came to me.
You wanted me to do this.
He goes, you know how I do things.
So don't get mad at me.
Because I'm sure the school board and everybody was going after him, Dr. Napier,
and telling him to, you need to go up there and slow Mr. Clark's roll down.
Because he started yelling and goes, look, he goes, shut up and listen to me.
Because here, I'm just, I'm just shut up and listen to me.
Because here, I'm.
I'm the HNIC
He just reamed him out
I like how he just looked at it
He goes
You think you bad aren't you
They go walking around
I mean but
I'm more
I'm leaning more with Joe Clark
Mr. Clark
I mean on his
On what he was doing
To try to turn that school
And he did turn that school around
But then you got Dr. Napier
That's listening to
Mr. Clark
but more listening towards the school board and everybody else.
And because of that one bitchy mom that was complaining.
Yeah, you put that focus into whoever your son was, I got kicked out.
Yeah, I wouldn't even know who that was.
And you're there trying to get him kicked out of that school.
I mean, I get your parent and you're mad.
Your kid got kicked out, but your kid got kicked out for a reason because he or she was fucking up.
So you think the whole argument would have been like let my kid back into school
Not get this guy out of the school
And not once did you know outside of that after that meeting you know she never brought up her kid again
Oh we don't even know who her kid was
So she didn't even have a kid
I mean yeah maybe she's just one of those ones that just wants to bitch and complain about everything
So
because, yeah, because
let's just say that she got her way
and he got kicked out.
Do you think that school
just went back to hell again?
Oh, yeah.
Well, if it did, this is what I think.
Let's just say he got kicked out.
And yeah, you got all the nice kids
that were still learning everything,
but since he's gone,
they're going to let all those kids
that got kicked out back in that school
and then go right back to the way it was.
So, but,
he's uh they're the mrs barrett she's the one that's trying to get him uh locked up or whatever so
they uh the fire chief shows up one day at school and and they wouldn't let him in um right
there all right especially in a public school uh and the fire chief wants to come in and do an
an inspection they can basically i think i could be wrong i'm pretty sure they can come in and
and inspect everything.
If they can roll into concert venues and everything,
just to make sure that capacities are not over the limit.
I mean,
I'm sure they can go into a school and make sure that these kids are safe.
But because they all do know that there's padlocks on these doors,
but they need to see it for themselves,
but they weren't less security than everybody.
They stopped them at the door and they weren't letting them in.
So, all right, kid raised back in a place.
He's all bandaged up, blackout, well,
he got bruises under his eyes and looked like one of his lips
is busted up and got a band-aid over his nose.
But he came in just to tell him, tell Mr. Clark that he,
school's not for him.
I'm going to drop out because I'm going to just go live my life somewhere else.
But I mean, Mr. Clark, he was straight up with him.
He was like, look, you'll be dead in the year.
And Kid Ray is just like,
I got to do what I got to do
Because he was just trying to tell him
Like man don't don't go
Just stay here
Finish out your school
And
Yeah but when he said that
He goes you'll be dead in a year
I've had friends like that
Yeah
Yeah
They were fucking up
And
Other than us trying to tell him
And I'm sure parents
And school parents
And that's exactly
What happened
And then they were out in the streets
Doing what they were doing
and sometimes
Clearly
he
He was in deep
If he had to leave school
Yeah
I just assumed
Well
I assumed
I assumed that kid got arrested
The drug dealer guy that beat him up
But
I don't know if he was still a juvenile
I mean he'd slap you on the wrist
And send you home
Well he's when he gets out
He's gonna be angry
It might affect his way into the Air Force
Yeah, so Kid Ray, he bounces.
That part was that part was sad.
I mean, Kid Ray seemed like he was a cool guy.
But yeah, I guess obviously he was doing some kind of dirt for that drug dealer to beat him up.
Yeah, I always just assumed that he owed a lot of money.
Probably why he had the stupid gold.
He had like the same suit on that Mr. Clark had.
Yeah, I got to play the part, man.
these kids don't know what's going on.
So yeah, he rolls around and he sees Sam's.
And Sam's and all those guys are walking down on him and his cousins
are walking down all with their other guys.
And then they all jump into the bathroom
because they hear Mr. Clark coming.
And he walks in and goes,
these are all the guys that got in trouble with him in the cafeteria.
Aren't you guys my little songbirds?
And they're like, oh.
And he goes, all right.
He goes, look, if you guys better sing this song
and if you don't know it,
You go and get suspended for 10 days each.
So he kind of lights into them to sing the school song.
And they kind of start it.
And then it's all crazy.
But then Sam's like, all right, guys, hit it.
So then they start singing it a better way, a better version, which Joe Clark hasn't heard.
So if you guys know the song, you guys know the movie that you know how they sang it.
And it did sound way better than what those kids were singing in the beginning of the movie.
because I was like, all right.
Because no, it was the end, I think it was at the beginning or the end of the movie when there's a young woman singing the...
I think that's the beginning.
Yeah.
But this one's all jazzed up.
Gospel style.
Because Mrs. Powers, was she just a piano player when Mrs. Elliott was the teacher?
I think she was an assistant music teacher.
and then when the one lady got fired,
I think she got promoted.
Our music teacher didn't have no assistance.
She was in there by herself,
battling with everyone.
And does,
does steel get thrown into the piano again?
Yeah,
because when they're all singing the song,
and he's all shocked,
and he starts laughing,
who goes,
who guys,
who taught you this?
They just started yelling,
answer me.
And no one's saying anything.
It's,
all right,
Sam's,
and then he grabs him,
and then he goes,
rushing into the
music room
because he just
Sam's telling us
who told you this
he said
so they're like
ah so he just
he gets all those guys
and tells them
go to my office
so no he just comes with me
because then he goes
and charges into the music room
and Mrs. Powers
is in there teaching class
and then he interrupts
and just start yelling at yelling at her
and he goes
basically telling him
look I didn't authorize
you who gave you permission
to
to do the song like this
and she goes, well, I changed it
because it was actually boring.
And he goes, I didn't authorize this.
And then she's looking at
like, because he just comes in like he does and just
starts yelling at it. But basically just say, look,
you take a bow.
Because you just rewritten our
what fuck did he say?
What is it? Amma mater?
Yeah, that.
So everyone,
everyone's cheering and laughing and everything.
So he was all super hyped and happy and Mrs.
Powers steals hugging her and everything.
So but after he leaves and everyone's cheering and hugging and everything,
he goes into the office and tells the vice principal,
yeah, man, I just heard like the best thing ever.
And she hands him the test scores from the practice test that they were supposed to do.
And he looks at it.
I don't remember what the score was,
but it was basically just still hella low and never went in mass.
Nowhere near 75%.
Uh-uh.
So he is,
ah,
he gets all mad and starts lightning to her.
And then he goes back in,
gets all the teachers to get into the,
uh,
into the,
um,
the gym and then starts reaming them out again.
Basically told,
like,
look,
what,
you guys are doing,
ain't good enough.
We need to step it up.
So,
I know if I was a,
I mean,
I don't like to yell at
by anyone.
I mean,
even then now,
but he was lighting him up.
But I get what he's doing
and he's,
he's trying to improve his school.
But a lot of people
just didn't like what he was doing
because he lit him up.
Because there was one side of the room
was like more teachers and the other side was just a few and he was like this is how many people
you guys are doing good or um this percentage over here which wasn't that many teachers is what's
passing and all you guys are the rest of the students and they're not passing so he was just
screaming and yelling at them lighting them up and he does some good changes here he what they do like
a tutoring program and then they do another program where the parents need help
they'll help them to better understand to help their kids do their work
because they were like yeah because they were like what he goes he was saying
well they were going to have to start doing after school stuff and coming in on the
weekends and all that and they're like these kids aren't going to come in on the weekend
and he goes what and he goes well this is what this is what they got to do this is what they
had to do for everyone to get their test scores up when they do that minimum I guess the
minimum skills test or the basic skills test that's what it's called so another
I was about to say I think around this time he reinstates Mr.
Darnell yeah because we got another montage and Mr.
Darnell's in class teaching and he comes in and gives him a thumbs up and
Kesea at home classes participating yeah he teaches at home and her mom's there and
her mom's helping her with her school work so and I could
tell you the song that was going on.
It was a happy song.
Yeah, it was.
You see Kadesha and the one kid,
the high school,
the senior class president.
Yeah, Carlton.
Yeah, him.
That's exactly where he is.
They see him flirting around with each other.
And we go into the gym.
Everyone's laughing around, cutting it up,
having a good time.
Mr. Clark,
jumps in, starts jump roping with all the girls and Sam's is jumping roping and everything.
So he gives a good time.
Everyone's having a good time at school.
Everyone's happy to be at school, which is awesome.
And then we get more scenes of that bitchy-ass lady screaming at the mayor telling him,
look, you guys still need to get rid of him.
We need to get these kids back in school.
Dr. Nepeer is telling them, like, look, man, goes, he's doing a good job.
And why are you letting this bitch fill your head?
I mean, that's not what he said, but that's basically what he said.
That's what he said.
He's in right after that.
You should have said, who the hell is your kid?
Yeah.
Your kid ain't even there.
Who are you?
Why aren't you?
I understand her frustration and everything, but I mean, I'd be like, you're the kids.
Your kid is fucking up.
Why don't you yelling at your kid to try to do something or get your kid into another school or whatever?
But the fire chief is there too as well.
he's telling him was look man if we can get in there and get them we can we can arrest him so the
the mayor the fire chief and mrs barrett they're coming up with some kind of scheme on how to
get rid of joe clark so he basically told us look we go i'm going to sick the fire chief on
him so uh the mayor and the fire chief are in the bathroom and they're trying to work up
some way on how to get rid of Joe.
And because when they're in there talking,
the lawyer,
the hell's his name,
Mr. Rosenberg,
he's in there taking a shit,
but he lifts his legs up.
Because the mayor,
he kind of kneels down and looks under all the stalls
to make sure no one's in there.
So that's when they start rambling off
and saying what they were going to do.
So he hears what the plan that they're going to do.
the mayor and the fire chief
and he goes down and tells Mr. Clark
what's happening.
But he's scared.
He's like,
look,
you didn't hear this from me.
So, yeah,
and this is the scene when he gets the three little white boys.
All right,
sing the song and they don't sing it right.
He made them look embarrassed in front of the kids.
So,
he's next problem coming out.
Yeah,
well,
we've got more problems.
He's dealing with,
the Hispanic kids.
I believe they were a Puerto Rican.
I could be wrong, but
she said, I go,
why are you guys good?
You got all this.
You got all this.
You got the classes and stuff for the black kids.
You got the classes and stuff for the white kids.
Like I mean, he ain't doing nothing for us.
And he kind of turns out, all right,
let's come in my office and we'll talk about it.
He comes in,
he goes in there.
And he starts reaming out the
teachers again. Not so hard
though. He starts telling him,
look, man, we got six days until the exam.
You guys are doing good.
We need to be a little more tougher on these kids to make sure everyone's ready for this test.
And they're talking about, but we got to watch out because the fire chief is coming around.
And they try to set up, make sure that everyone's, the security guards and everyone's got a radios.
And they come up some code word saying that some of the teachers that are near the doors with the chains on.
This is the code.
if you hear that run over there and take the chains off the door before the chief comes in so they're trying to work up that plan okay after that um what's her name i guess he was yelling at the vice principal and then she turns around and turns it on him and starts yelling at him because she was basically saying like look man we're working our ass off and you you're not appreciating what we're trying to do here and he goes you
Like you're the only one that cares for these kids.
He goes, we care for these kids too.
And he goes, but you need to slow your rule on everybody.
And then he tries like, I don't need to hear this.
But then she lights in them.
Yeah, you do.
You stop right there.
Listen.
So he just, she lights him up.
And what she said was good.
But she was basically, we want you to appreciate us.
Don't just, it's not just you doing all this.
it's us too
and he needed to hear that
and that's what I liked about this
vice principal she was straight up
with him too
so it's getting the kids ready for the
test
keeping the eye out for the fire
chief and everything
and then
after everything's going good
it comes cadizia
with more years
I understand
I mean you just get that urge
and accident happens.
She thought she was with a good guy.
Well, maybe he had game.
She found out she was pregnant,
and it was by the senior class president.
Yeah, Carlton.
I don't know if that's his name,
that's what we're called.
And he's basically saying,
he goes, no, I ain't my kid.
And she's all sad.
and scared. What am I going to do?
So
Mr. Clark is like, all right, man.
Well,
we're going to get through this too
and just adding more stuff that he's
got to deal with. So while he's talking to her,
here comes Candyman. He comes running
in. And he goes, man, the fire chief got
by. So they're like, ah, no, he got
past the front gate. So they're all running
Code 10 or whatever the hell he is.
He goes, uh, the enemy's in the building.
Yeah, unchained the doors.
But the fire chief is
already in the school as well as dumbass
Mrs. Barrett.
So they're like, all right. And he goes
and the fire chief was recording the radio.
He has a little pocket recorder.
He basically told him, he said, all right,
you're in trouble and you're arrested.
So that's when he plays the tapeback to him.
So now he's got proof that he was chaining the doors up.
And the police are there too with the fire chief.
So he gets handcuffed.
and everything.
The vice principal comes over,
what's going on?
And then even Steele's there.
He goes, what's going on?
Why are you doing to this?
And then the vice principal is trying to see.
Look, man, he goes,
you can't do this,
but Mrs. Bear goes,
nope, we got everything.
We got all the proof here.
And that's it.
He's done.
And she's cussing and,
or she's not cussing,
but she's screaming at him.
And then Steele comes running up and goes,
hey, you know, suck on this or whatever the hell he said.
Hey, bitch, suck on.
this. So what do you say?
Yo, bitch, vote on this. That's what he said.
Because they were going to vote him out.
And now they have a more excuse. He's in, uh, endangering kids.
And so, but everyone was like, what's going on? Why, why are you getting arrested?
And he goes, whoa, I put the chains on the door and it was against law and now I'm paying for it.
So he's out the door. He goes down to jail.
They have him locked up. Dr. Napier and Benson.
are they talking to him
I don't remember what they were saying to him here
I don't remember
I know
because he was
well he was explaining
well this is this is what you know what I do here
but
let me see
the students demand
Clark is arrested for violating the fire safety
codes that evening
the students gather at the meeting
what was he saying
I mean, I think Mr. Clark, I mean, he knew he knew what he did was wrong, but he knew why he was doing it to keep all the drug dealers and all the bad, bad kids out of the school.
Yeah, but I think that's what he was telling them, even though you, you had good intentions.
Like, they caught you and they were going to, they are going to vote you out.
Yeah.
And, I mean, he, he, he wasn't, he wasn't complaining about it.
I mean, he knew what he was,
did, he did was wrong.
Because he said it to the kids and I,
what do you,
why are you getting arrested?
And he goes,
because I did something bad.
And he goes,
I put the chain on the doors.
That's why I'm,
now I got to pay the price.
So when they're in this school board meeting,
I don't know why they're letting this bitch to have so much power.
Yeah,
she's not on any committees or have any position in office or anything.
She's just a regular person.
Yeah,
I mean,
if you want you.
put more
uh
because
wasn't there a scene like he was
she was making she was making it seem like she was making it seem like she
can give votes for the mayor
yeah because um
it was like what power what do you do
because you can't even keep your kid in school
but you're going to get votes for the mayor
your kids are out there fucking up I think she
her way was probably going to all the
um
the parents of the kids that they got kicked out of school
okay man
He's going to help us, so we got to vote for him.
It's not a whole bunch of votes there.
Yeah.
There was, what, 50 kids up there?
So I don't know.
So they were trying to have that meeting on this is what they were going to do and they want to they want to get him out.
But you had all the people in the other parents that were supporting Joe, Mr. Clark.
So they were like, ah, they were all yelling back and forth.
But I think the board was just getting tired of her of her.
Because, yeah, someone should have called her out.
why don't you fucking at home try to deal with your kid you're here fucking trying to get ruin this guy's life so but all the kid it would have made more sense to me if she had some kind of pull or position because I just feel like if she was just a regular person they would have just ignored her yeah I don't think they would have gave her so much screen time in the mayor's office and yelling at the fire chief
and I don't think you can just bust into the mayor.
Well, maybe back in 89 you could now.
Hell, no.
There's security and everybody there.
So, but all the kids from Eastside High, they posse up and they go charging down to the,
is this the police station or the mayor's office?
It kind of felt like a combination of the mayor's office, the police station, and the
courthouse all in wine.
It's probably the courthouse because, uh,
They got Mr. Clark downstairs in a cell.
It's probably where they were going to do the vote.
So he's got to tell them and all the kids are outside rallying up and with the blowhorns yelling and screaming free Mr. Clark.
The mayor looks out the window because the cops go, hey man, you better look outside.
So he looks out and sees the whole mob of kids and he's like, oh, shit.
So he goes down into Mr. Clark's cell and tries to tell him, hey, man, you need to go out there and say something to these kids and,
is this a part when he goes,
I don't got to do it, stay black and die.
He's yelling at him.
I don't got to do nothing, but stay black and die.
And the mayor's like, oh, man, come on,
you got to do something.
And I assume this was a voting year.
That's why that one bitch was just saying,
I can get you votes to stay mayor.
But I think they get,
they get Mr. Clark to go out there.
Because I think they say something,
you don't want no kids to get hurt with the police
or anything.
Yeah, because they were just
a bunch of black kids.
I'm surprised they didn't call him the Riot Squad.
So do it today.
Yeah, they would.
So they went out,
they finally goes out there.
Mrs. What the hell is her name?
This is Barrett.
She's out there trying to listen to me,
everyone, just, he's in,
he's bad, he's going on,
you guys all need to go home.
and everything's under control and everyone's on,
nah, and steal, yeah, and she's like, we're trying to get you a good
principal.
And he's like, we don't want a good principle.
We want Mr. Clark.
And then Clarence gets up there and takes the blowhorn from her and he's yelling
everyone, come on everyone, listen up, settle down.
She might actually have something to say.
So everyone just chill, settle down.
And let's listen to this old loud mouth, say something.
something and he hands the blowhorn back to her and then walks down the stairs.
Carlton tried to get on the mic too.
Yeah.
And Kenesia's, you don't even handle your own responsibilities.
Yeah, he tried to say some shit.
Yeah, she screamed at him.
Apparently at school knows because everybody's like, ooh.
Yeah.
So, but they do let Mr.
Clark out.
He kind of, I don't know how nobody saw him, but he's kind of peeking out there.
And he goes out and.
and tries to tell them to, uh, slow the rule.
So everyone starts cheering.
Everyone's happy.
And then, uh, because when, uh, when that Mrs.
Barrett is up there yelling and screaming at her, I mean,
Kadeja's, she, she jumps in and she starts yelling and saying that, um,
Mr. Clark is like, uh, a father to us to, uh, some of the kids that,
that don't have a father.
He's like the only father they have.
So with that, Mrs. Barr, she ain't trying to hear it.
And she's just like, no, no, we can get you a better principal.
She's like, no, nope, man, that's when steal.
Yeah, we don't want another principal.
We want Mr. Clark.
Cadizia starts crying again because she's screaming and yelling.
And then Joe, Mr. Clark just comes out.
And he tries to grab the bullhorn from her.
And then she like pulls it away.
Then he just pulls it away from her.
Yeah, I'm like, that's not your bullhorn.
Who are you? Where is your kid?
Yeah.
Goodness.
So she didn't want to give it up, but the mayor was telling her like, come on, just give it up.
So she hands it over to him.
He's telling all the kids they need to calm down and listen and go home.
He was happy and proud that they were all there.
But this isn't the time.
We've got to respect the law and everyone just go home.
But then all the kids are like, hell no, we ain't going home.
And then, all right.
Now the riot squad shows up
Because the whole van, the paddy wagon
Police officers just showed up
And they all got their night sticks out
The news is there
Everyone's chan free Mr. Clark and no
All this so he just come on you guys
We need to go
But then Mrs.
What's the um
This is Levias
Levi's Levis Levis Mis Leviess
The vice principal she shows up
With the test scores
And then she's like here
and he starts yelling at her and goes, why didn't you, why don't you, why aren't you
controlling these kids?
And then she's like, no.
And then she's just, here, you need to read this.
He's yelling at her.
She just, shut up and read this.
So he takes it and he opens it up.
And it's the test scores for the basic skills, uh, tests.
And I think it was over 75%.
Yep.
Everyone east side high passed it.
So they're all good.
So.
And then all of a sudden, what's their name?
doesn't have power no more.
Nope.
And the mayor even tries to get in on the hoot and hollering everybody and be all happy
because they all passed the minimum basic skills test.
And everybody's hooting and hollering and screaming and having it.
So, I mean, again, in our eyes, we did see that Mr. Joe, Mr. Joe Clark did do a good job.
He turned that school around as well as the help from the teachers and everyone else.
they all did their part to help these students
passed the basic skills test.
And they tries to get the mayor to come in to say something.
And then what does he tell him?
He says something stupid.
Mr. Mayor, on behalf of myself,
I'm just reading this, everyone.
On behalf of the students at East Side High,
you can tell the state to go to hell.
Because you had a state as well as that dumb bitch
They were all trying to get him fired and everything.
So the mayor was like, fuck this and then goes back inside.
So I assume they just let him go, slapped him on the wrist and sent him on his way.
But I'm sure he probably had to pay a fine because, again, you are in danger in children by locking the doors and everything.
So, but everyone starts singing the school song.
And then that's pretty much a movie.
I think we see the seniors graduate at the end.
Yeah, during the credits, we see all the seniors graduating and everything.
And even Sam's Steel tried to get in on the action.
But, I mean, this movie was awesome, man.
I mean, I love it.
It's a good, feel good story.
I don't know how much they had to embellish on the story to make it a movie.
I guess you guys do some reading yourself.
You'll know more of the real story of Joe Lewis Clark.
I had to click on his name.
Well, he passed away in 2020.
He was 82.
But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess Wikipedia, go on there and you can read everything about him.
But he turned that school around in the movie.
I don't know how it was in real life.
Well, I mean, he had to have done enough.
for them to make a movie out of it.
Yeah, I mean, I never even heard of this guy until this movie came out.
So, and then I found out that it was based on true story.
So, yeah, as far as everything else and Kid Ray and the drug dealer guy going in Air Force, I don't know.
Oh, Kid Ray made it past a year.
Yeah, man, come on.
I mean, I never seen him in anything else.
let me see
Kid Ray
What was his name?
His real name
Uh
Alex
Ramirez
Ramagora
Oh,
there he is
Romagera
Sounds right
Yeah,
I'll go with that
He's only did this
And as the world
turns
One episode
still alive, so I guess that's good.
Yeah, maybe he just didn't want to act anymore.
All right.
Damn, they didn't even give these guys names.
They gave other people names.
They gave Chris or Spider.
They gave him a name.
But the three kids that were singing, they called him
white boy singer.
I mean
I mean
you read the credits
you know who they're talking about
yeah
but
um
if Michael
imperial and Peerola
however you say is like
we didn't know him at that time
he was able to get a
get a name
yeah you're going to be George
was this his
first thing he had done
George
George
Let me see.
Actor, he's got 103 acting credits.
He's in a lot of stuff.
I mean, the first time I'm seen him.
Second movie.
All right.
He played, he was in some movie called Alexa, where he played Acidhead.
All right.
And then good fellows was right after.
See, that was the first thing that I remember him in.
he was the one that uh no you said i was a bright spider
joe betsy shot him in the foot
go fuck yourself Tommy
bandage is bigger than your fucking head
he was in jungle fever i haven't seen that movie in a
wow yeah he's a knock on backs he was
I don't even remember that
the bad boys he was jojo
he was
yeah the the little snitch that they had to go see
at the tire shop.
Oh, okay.
I was thinking of
Champan bad boys.
Oh, no.
He was in basketball
diaries,
clockers,
dead presidents.
I remember him
in dead presidents.
Yeah,
to put his stomach back in.
Yeah,
he was in during
the Vietnam scene.
He did a comedy.
Oh,
my baby's daddy.
That's what I remember.
He was good in
that show on Hulu.
this fool
yeah he wasn't
yeah
that show was hell of funny
if you guys haven't seen this fool
check that show out
that show's awesome
and I believe
we are getting the second season too
so that's cool
well everyone that is
lean on me
your pick
yeah we're gonna
stay with HBO
max
or whatever they call it
They'd be changing a name here pretty soon.
To what?
Because they, what you call it, bought it, Discovery.
I heard they're just going to call it Max.
Can't be home box office anymore?
I don't know.
Well, because you're going to get all the discovery stuff for free,
all combined with HBO Max.
All right.
Well, cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
First of all, I'm going to tell you that much.
much.
All right, everyone.
We're going to go to 2008.
I know some of you may not like her anymore,
but we're going to go to
2008s.
This is on HBO Max.
Set it off.
Stony.
Queen Latifah.
Fox before she missed her face up.
You know what?
You get hints.
of Jada now in this role.
You get little hands.
But I love this movie, mainly for Queen Latifah.
She plays Cleo, but yeah, we're going to come back to you with the set it off.
Nice.
There is a, there's more school movies that I want to eventually get to as well.
But I hadn't seen set it off in a while.
So give me a reason to watch it.
Oh, this is the, uh, the director's cut.
I don't know what's.
what's new do you I think some of the bank robbery scenes are kind of extended a little bit
but all right I've seen it enough to I will know if there's something new in it so that's good
but I want to say the the thing with um without really talking about it because the thing with
uh stony's brother how he goes out I think there's yeah that's a little bit extended I think
yeah that was what's his name
not their brother but the guy
he was hanging out with was um
from menace
yeah the dude the cane beat up
what's up now partner
yeah that guy
I liked him
he was also in the tales from the hood
don't be a menace
oh when they made them do the walk again
I love that movie
you guys ever see don't be a menace
where you're drinking your juice
to the hood. Check that shit out. That's just hell of funny.
You ever heard any of his music?
He's got music? Yeah. Well, this was like
back then. I think he went by caffeine.
I don't even know his name.
Are the caffeine? Now you're making it
you listen. You got out to search for it.
I think this was like in the 90s.
What's his real name, though? I don't.
No.
I couldn't even tell you his name.
He's just one of those.
I just remember him from menace to society.
Don't Be Menace.
And he's also in players club.
I saw that movie once.
And I remember it being like,
thought it was going to be a comedy and it ended up being like serious.
There's some comedic parts to it.
What happened to Lorenz Tate?
He kind of just disappeared.
I think he has a production company.
company with his brother.
Does he?
All right.
What the hell was that guy's name?
Samuel Monroe, Jr.
That sounds about right.
And he's got music?
I'm almost positive.
He's the one I'm thinking about.
He went by caffeine.
He's a West Coast rapper.
Hmm.
Because I think he was trying to capitalize off
Menace Society.
Oh, here it is.
Caffeined.
What the hell?
Man, who signed me out?
These damn kids and just stop touching my computer.
Signed out of my YouTube account.
Get, mother.
Getting ads now.
Damn kids.
I'll tell these kids, stop touching my shit.
I don't know.
Take it too long.
They got like a billion ads.
So I don't know what this guy is.
what this guy sounds like
yeah he's uh
says he's work with legendary
producers battle cat jelly roll
a lot of
a lot of West Coast producers
he was on Jive records
hmm
caffeine
actually it's not
caffeine it's
cafe
but cafe Malano
I guess
Oh, this is just a podcast or something
He's on.
It's not even music.
I'll try to find it and I'll send it to you.
Yeah, you're going to have to find it for me.
But all right, everyone.
Yeah, now we're just rambling.
That was lean on me.
Come back next week for set it off.
Stoney.
Lover, lover, hater, everyone.
I loved her at this point, but I don't know about now.
She's getting in the tank.
My favorite data was low down dirty shame, Jada as peaches.
I like to turn this or set it off and Eddie Murphy.
Oh, was the Nanny Professor.
Miss Purley.
Yeah, I liked her in that.
Oh, what's, oh, no, Janet Jackson was in the second one.
The second one.
I don't remember
And the clumps
But anyway
We ain't talking about those movies
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