The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #45: Freeway (1996)

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

This episode Brian and Nez help a young runaway fend off a crazed weirdo in the 1996 drama/thriller FREEWAY.   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Intro Music by Mixla Beats Productions https://www.mixlaproduction.com  

You just settled down. I'm gonna kill you! Mom, slip your fucking throw right now. Is that what you want me to fucking do? Okay, okay, I'm stopping, okay? Now you get down there on the floor and you get my fucking car keys and you put them in the ignition. You know, you wouldn't like it if someone was doing that to you. Well, you're probably right, Vanessa, I doubt.

I would like it if someone was doing this to me. Well, then stop it! I will stop it if you promise to behave. I promise I'll behave. You that guy on the news? I'm sorry? You the guy that's been killing me? You the God that's been killing all them girls on the freeway, Bob.

As always, it's my brother, Ness. What's up, man? Yo, yo, what up, everybody? We're back. Thanks, everyone, for listening to the last action returns. We're on a long hiatus. And if you hear a dog barking, it's this little res dog that won't leave me alone. Oh, Smilvin. Hey, get away. He's still a puppy.

He's only six months old, but he's like, hell of big, but he just keeps getting into everything. Yeah, I got mine here next to me. He doesn't understand when we record that I'm not talking to him. So he keeps... Go in there. Hey! Sorry, everyone.

He's still a puppy. Go in there. I'm the only one here, so that's why he... He just wants to be on the episode. Yeah. I have to keep the door open Because I don't trust him He

Still pisses and craps Everywhere Well he does I mean All right welcome to the The puppy dogs return Um He uh

He got the puppy pads up in the front He's pretty good about going on him But I'm like He'll be outside all day Then come in and just right i'm like really he were just outside for how long are you coming back in you dumb dog yeah we're we're we're pretty much past all that with him

it's just he just ends up with stuff in his mouth that he ain't supposed to have in his mouth that's the the main thing we're trying to get over yeah he's got a bunch of um little chew toys but he's just whatever he gets he chews up and I try not to get attached to this dog but it's it's hard it's hard they become they become like one of your kids yeah but we're doing the whole training thing so he's he's doing pretty good he's just want him to bark at strangers not at me and random things like if someone comes to the door is in the yard I want him to bark to let us know but he'll run up to him and be all friendly.

I'm like, come on. Be a guard dog. I'm like trade you in for another one. Oh, Smolvin. Yeah. I got to, I got to, I got to do the opposite. I got to have him friendly with everybody because we got the stigma pit bulls up here in, you know, in Anchorage. This one, he is.

German Shepherd and something else. I don't know. He's a res dog. His mom is roaming the res hoaring around with all the dogs. We don't know who the dad is. That's all right. One of his brothers, or no,

his sister lives up the street. One of my, Eric's friends, got one of the puppies as well. You better stop eating everything. trying to eat everything But all right man Enough of the dog show All right

What are we here for? We are here for This was my pick 1996's Crime Thriller Freeway You know don't it bother you your own wife Bring off all them strange guys for money

I make her use mouthwash after You like that minty fresh taste Huh Sheriff's department you're under the Totally fucked. Just after you left, the pigs came and pinch Mom and Larry Boe. And my parole officer showed up like the motherfuckin' plug to take me off to foster care again. Fuck last time. So, uh, what I call you? I'm sorry, my name is Bob Wolffin.

You've got God, been killing all them girls on the freeway, Bob? I try to think I'm gonna shoot you so many times! You know, you should just let me out of the car when I asked you to you, Bob! We are not tears and you talk about me, Vanessa. Without me, Vanessa, we're here to talk about you! Get your goddamn hands off my man out of me! You're really pissed! Clostor fulbin!

Yeah, well, I get claustrophobic, some strange dick! Get in there! The drug addicts. The fathers fuck their daughters. The drug-addictin' motherfucking whores with their bastard fucking on. I am no trick, baby! Why are you doing this? I'm pissed off, your whole world owes me.

Is that you, Bob? I can't believe such a teeny-wing little gun makes such a big man. such a big mess out of someone. Google, you are killing me again. Following the arrest of her mother, Ramona, young Vanessa Lutz decides to go in search of her strange grandmother on the way she is given a ride by a school counselor Bob Wolverton.

During the journey, Lutz begins to realize that Bob is the notorious I-5 killer and manages to escape by shooting him several times. Wounded, but still very much alive, Bob pursues Lutz across the state than this modern retelling of Little Red Riding Hood. Jesus. Really quick.

All right, that kind of makes somewhat sense. I never thought of it that way. I don't know if that's what they... Oh, you didn't get the references to Little Red Riding Hood? I might have missed them. I don't... On the way to Grandmother's house?

Oh. There's the scene where she had a picnic basket. Oh, right. Okay, okay. And now I'm all right. I see, I didn't put two and two together. Bob Wolverton. Oh, fuck, man. I had a couple drinks, but I was all right. I didn't think I drank that much.

Drinking a soda now. All right. Cool. All right. That makes total sense. Have you seen the sequel? I've never seen this. This is the first time I had seen this.

film. Shout out to my brother Brian right here, man. He gifted me the 4K, and that's what I watched. It's streaming on EMC Plus, but there's another one? Yeah, it's Freeway 2 Confessions

of a Trick Baby, and I think the theme of that one is Hansel and Gretel. Have you seen that one? I saw it like a long time ago. Like, if we was to do it, it would probably be like a like a new watch for me because it's been so long i know uh what's her name um

fuck natasha leone oh damn you're make me watch that one now that might have to be another time everyone because i already got my pick a like to what uh when was the first time you saw this uh the first time i saw seen this uh had to been closer to 95 when i first seen it because uh i I think I seen, I don't know if it was somebody was playing it, or if I caught a trailer or something, but I had caught, I had seen Bocheme Woodbine in it. And I was like, I've seen it, I've done a few things that I like. So let me check it out. And I didn't know

who Reeks Wetherspoon was. Or I didn't know Kiefer Southern was in it. I didn't know Brooke Shields was in it. And I just gave it. Yeah, so I just gave it a watch and I was like this movie's pretty fucking good man I just I dug the retelling of this Fairy tale child's fairy tale It's definitely not for children this movie

There's a lot of Violence and sexual references and a lot of Evil nasty people in here Racism there's all kinds of shit in this movie Yeah, I mean if you're if you're if you're a easily offended this this ain't for you man this had everything

and it I was like what the fuck am I watch I see I didn't I knew nothing I knew of the movie but I didn't know what it was about I never seen it I never looked into it or read about it I mentioned one of my friends yeah we're doing

free of it I was like oh dude I said I don't know nothing about it so don't say anything. It was like, okay, yeah, just watch it. So, but. Yeah, it has, it has like a cult classic status, I think. Because I think it's still not really widely known, but when you do come across somebody that's seen it, like, they'll tell you it's hell of good. Yeah, I, I could see that. I love the, well, before we really dive into it, run through the cast and everything. Okay. Yeah. Let me see.

Just had to pull it up. The cast stars. Kiefer Sutherland, Reese Witherspoon, Wolfgang Bodison, Daniel Hadea. He was Detective Garnett Wallace, rest and peace to him. Amanda Plummer, Brooke Shields,

Michael T. Weiss, Bokkeen Woodbine, Guillermo, Diaz. I don't know. People know him from Half-Baked. He was in this movie for a quick second. Brittany Murphy was in this movie for a quick second. Rest in peace.

And I can't find him on here. Who was the Diaz? He was in half-baked? Yeah, the, what's their name? Mosquita, the chick she meets up with in prison and gets out. Her boyfriend's waiting for her. That was, uh, what's his name from half-baked? Okay.

And, uh, the twins, the twins that were in prison. One of them was Tori from, uh, by the bell. What? You remember Tori? She came on for like a season. She was the one that wore the leather jacket.

I think she came on with Kelly left. Oh, yeah. Yeah, one of them was her. Which one was she? I don't know. It would look both the same to me. Twin one. Okay, that's not her.

What about twin two? Oh shit, that is her. Yeah. Lena Creel. yeah oh damn i didn't know that because i i never knew she was a twin until uh rewatching this uh i was uh just looking through the i mdb and i was like she looked he looked hello familiar and found out that they're actually really twins and one of them was uh tory from saved by the bell and i was like right on shout out to her for being on one season

or half a season or whatever was Yeah, there was another girl that was in this. Is this her? I guess this is her. Yeah, Alana Ubak. She was a mosquito. Was that that one that she beat up to you, man. Don't want she beat up in jail?

Yeah. Okay. Oh, man. But that's, what's her name? you ever see waiting is that the one she was she the one in um radio lunch movie too

yeah and uh uh was it meet the fuckers i think so she was the um the uh the uh the uh the the uh the the uh the isabella i think that was her name the um

the um the not the maid the cook or whatever um yeah no I think no that's Brady Bunch um in Brady Bunch she was the one that uh that liked uh Marsha when they were her friend in school um I think this is her damn she's been in Hill movies yeah Noreen that was she that's who she was in Brady Bunch yeah she's in waiting I remember she was the waitress

always blowing up yeah she pulled her pants down and had spit bowls or something all lodged in the hair it was just little pieces of lent yeah I like her and everything that she pops up in

okay I thought that was her but yeah there's all kinds of people in this and hey it's that guy or that girl and oh my God this movie was for a first time watching not knowing what it was about this movie was nuts

I was like what the hell is going on here I was just so shocked and I was like what I was texting one of my friends I asked have you seen this movie she was I never even heard of it so she like watched the trailer and she was like wow and I said you better watch it I said it's on

freebie or AMC Plus But yeah This movie starts out wild Who was it? Unkin from Pope Fiction Amanda Yeah she oh my gosh, she's a rough She's just

In the streets Selling it She went for it in this role Yeah she did Hey sorry everyone She's chewing on my socks God damn it Um, the, uh, the beginning,

was this like the special ed class or something? Because this was, uh, I don't know if it was special ed, but it was kind of, it was kind of sad. Yeah. Nobody knew how to fucking read. Nobody in that whole classroom, her and, uh, Bocheme. What was that movie? Him and, uh, bamboo from Onyx. Oh, strapped.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I wonder if that. It was. It was an HBO movie, but I don't know why it's not. I think I was streaming on there. I think it's on there. I'm going to have to do that one at some point.

But Reese Witherspoon, Academy Award winner. Vanessa Lutz is a literate teenager living in South of Los Angeles. Yeah, they were reading something about drinking milk, and they couldn't even read. How old do you say? Did they say how old she was? She had to have been like 16, 17, something like that. If that. Yeah. And she kind of sounds out the sentence and reads it.

And then, yeah, you go. The teacher was, yeah, kind of clapping. And then she started making out with, uh. She basically told her the word, the teacher. She's pointing at the word cat and says, meow. I mean, it was funny and I was like, I couldn't believe it, but some, I feel my buddies were like this. And I was like, should I laugh or should I just go, God, damn. But I mean, not everybody has the happiest home.

I get it. There's a lot of dark humor in this movie. Her home was definitely not a happy home. Oh, that fucking her was her stepdad. very yeah this nasty pervert peto oh my god it was funny though after she got the sentence

right and her boyfriend was like yeah then she just starts making out with them and that was like the longest kiss scene I was like okay come up for air and Bo Keen he was

he was he was chopper chopper yeah he looked way too old to be in high school I don't know. He probably could or if I'd been held back a few times. Was he supposed to be an essay or because he had the top button on his shirt? I don't know. He might have been in one of those mixed gangs like in colors. In colors. Yeah. Have we done that? Not yet. We will.

Okay. I see that's streaming everywhere now. But yeah. So she's there and then she kind of leaves class and she heard her boyfriend chopper. She's kind of like, wow, well, I just want to get out of here. She wanted to go see her grandma. She goes home and she meets her mom, Ramona, and she's out in the street trying to sell it. And she's just cracked out or something and just in the street. Hey, I'll suck it and this and that. Yeah, she's not even sexy or smooth with this.

She was like, give me 10 bucks and I'll suck you daling. Yeah. That's not appealing. I mean, all of them were, I mean, the streetwalkers that grew up with in my neighborhood, I mean, they, I remember, there was, it's weird, though. I remember these twins showed up, his little blonde girls. They were like the hottest thing on the block when they first started. But as the years went on, they, they looked rough.

I remember just going, God damn, what happened to them? Streets will age you. Yep. they were about that life and just oh man but anyway yeah her mom was all beat up and then she was like i'm just gonna i want to go inside because uh she goes in the house uh they live in a little of was that like a motel yeah yeah she goes in there and her stepdad larry's in there and he just he looks like a young guy he looked younger than her her mom and he was all drugged out and nasty and he was hitting the pipe in front of her yeah and he was trying to touch her and everything and she was

just it seemed like it was like an everyday thing yeah she's sitting there just watching cartoons trying to push him off and then she did it wasn't funny but it's just the way the way she sounded when she was just like larry get your hands off my anatomy yeah she had like a thick accent in this Which I think I read or I seen an interview. This is like what her accent is in real life, but they wanted her to kind of exaggerate it even more for the movie. Does she really have an accent like this? I must not really pay attention. Yeah, she's like from, let me look it out real quick.

She is from Tennessee. So it sounds like. New Orleans, Louisiana. Okay. But yeah, she's just doing her. her thing and just trying to push her stepdad off her mom's outside hoeing it up and the cops one guy like a undercover cop comes up and she's like okay i'll charge you two dollars or whatever the hell she was saying and then they go you're under arrest and she's like ah

and these are like the nicest cops ever because she was fighting them and nah you ain't taking me ah pushing them oh hell no today you touch a cop you just brush up against them you're going on the ground and you have your knee and their knees in the back of your head. I like when he pulls out his badge at first. She just like tries to calmly just walk out of the car.

I was like God damn, what's happening? So they're like, okay, well they put, they start searching her and they find this and that and drugs and everything. That's not mine. Yeah.

that's the first thing anyone says when they find stuff on you oh that ain't mine i was holding it for someone um that's what my buddies always said oh i'm always holding it for my friend i'm like oh you just take the rap man you ever see that clip of that guy that gets pulled over and they they find a whole bunch of meth on him and his explanation was that it's not he it's not his he's selling it that's why he has like scales and stuff but he doesn't realize he's making it worse for himself he just doesn't want to be looked at as someone that smokes man it was like the weirdest clip uh i believe it drugs are bad boys and girls please stay away from him so they go well this is your house we need to go in there and check so they go into the house and the house

is just like a wreck hell of dirty trash everywhere they find pipes and uh they go in when they go into the house they hear porn on the tv and then they go into the room and larry is on top of what the hell is her name um Vanessa Vanessa yeah he's on top of her I mean they're fully clothed and like I said it must just be an everyday thing and she just accepts it because she was not trying to fight him she was not like interested in it she just kind of was laying stiff straight while he was doing whatever the cops came in threw him off and it just makes you feel dirty just cops are all like you diddling the daughter larry and then he his excuses she's not my real daughter so it's okay and i'm like what the fuck i was like damn i mean the cops were

making like a joke out of it. And I mean, this is nothing to joke about, but I was like, what? That's what I was going to? Every minute of this movie was going along, I was like, what the hell's happening? All right. Here's this is what it says here on Wikipedia. A black comedy crime film. Not as in black people comedy, like as in a black comedy, as a dark comedy. But I was like, okay. I mean, there's stuff that's funny in this, but I don't know if it was.

was meant to be funny but i was like what the hell is happening here but i don't know doc what do you know some little stuffed animal you felt but yeah so they take them to jail they take her and no no no no they were going to take her off to a um um a boarding school hey uh um wherever they take trouble teens like a halfway house or something yeah yeah they were gonna take her to that because they had the social worker she showed up and there was she was kind of taught the cops and everybody were gone they took her mom they took her stepdad and then she was kind of like all right well let me let me grab some things and then she ended up like handcuffing the social worker to like to the bed and then all right um i'll leave the keys on top of the tv and if you yell loud enough mr so-and-so the manager

will hear you and all right i'll see you and she just kind of leaves and from the social worker ever again yeah she starts to do her thing next to you know she's uh she's trying to get to stockton and uh she sees her boyfriend and she kind of tells him this is what i'm going i got to get out of here uh they just arrested my mom i'm gonna go up to stockton see my uh my grandma you should come with me but chopper's like i can't i got to go to court uh if i don't go to court and if i miss this court case or this court hearing. I'm going to have to go to prison or whatever. So he's like, I'm going to stick it out here. So he's like, all right, well, I'll see you. So she leaves. And, oh, she has a car. He gave her a little small little pistol.

Yeah. One of those little compact ones. He's like, here, just in case, sell it if you need to. So she's like, all right. Yeah. One of those cans is just that beer on it. So she She takes off and he's walking down the street And then these S-rays roll up Hella slow He sees them and then one of them just hangs a gun out Gets him with one shot basically in the chest

And he He just doom falls over And their horn was so disrespectful While they were driving away I know I was like damn Which Right before she

she had got there that he was kind of getting into it with them and he he had thought they left but they i guess they had swung around yeah they came back and they came back blasting and they got him which was kind of messed up because you seen as soon as he seen them uh pulling out something he he was reaching he was reaching for that gun that he gave Vanessa but he already gave it to her so yeah yeah he was fiddling around going for whatever and yeah it was gone and it was too late he should have just ran he's he like still well i guess it was on slow motion too he was like feeling around and then it's too late they they blasted him shout out to bo keene he's a star yeah he is because that was it for him they didn't

even like they kind of brought him up later but that was the last we saw on him so she's on her way to uh stockton she uh had uh had has she had the car that she i assume it was her was it her mom's car was it the social workers car somebody's car she was driving out on the freeway and then it just looks like a muffler blue because i had all the steam and everything coming out so she's like fuck and then here comes keep her sullen um what the hell is his name bob he pulls up and tells her and he's all just nicely dressed glasses not all scummy looking

he gets in starts kind of befriending her and wants to hear her story and everything and mentions that he's a school counselor for trouble girls coincidentally yeah he's he's nice and he takes her to dinner

and listening to her sob story and everything and then when they're done they get back in a car and driving up the road and this is when it kind of starts to turn sideways. Oh, earlier in, uh, when she was watching, uh, Vanessa was watching TV, there were, there was a news report about the, uh, I-5 killer.

Yeah. And it was somebody just murdering, uh, picking up people along the freeway and murdering them. So, um, that's what she heard. She didn't get the full story because Larry changed the channel and all hell broke loose in the house. Um, so he's kind of talking to her. And like he said, he was a counselor and he was like, look, I want to do an exercise with you that I do with other students. Um, I'm going to say some things and you need to tell me like the first thing that comes to your head. Because she was basically telling him the story of how she was molested.

Um. By Larry. Yeah, by Larry. And then eventually she, she was molested by her. foster parents. Yeah. So, I mean, everything that came out of her mouth was like, damn, this chick had a rough life. I mean, just, I mean, no one deserves any of that. But it was like everyone that, all these people that she was supposed to trust was just doing her dirty.

But what was interesting was when, when she's kind of having a moment here to, like, tell her story. I think this is kind of like the only time she actually has. shows kind of emotion about it yeah any other time in a movie it's just kind of like normal yeah i was like okay like i was feeling i mean i did feel sorry for her with what she had went through the the tragic horror sexual abuse that she had to deal with and then he because so bob was listening to her story and then he started asking her questions like how did you feel when whoever ejaculated in your mouth

because she was like wow what are you talking about you're a sick pervert and you're like no no you got to listen tell me how you feel what's the first thing that comes to your mind because she had said she felt like it felt like he used her mouth for like a toilet or the bathroom she said something like that

and then she she was starting to get mad at her yelling at her about everything and then she was kind of like just like get the fuck that no I can't do this and she was like pull over and she tried to reach for the doorknob but it was gone he goes oh you're looking for this and she's like ah then he like uh pulls out a straight razor and he's and she goes are you that are you that i five killer i mean he didn't come out and say it but he was alluding to that he was he's like you know why i can fucking kill you and let your throat right now

uh she tried to oh no she pulled the keys out of the um the ignition And then they kind of just pulled over And then he was he was like holding her down and that's when he said like I could slit your throat right now leave you here And he goes like no he goes I want you to bend down and grab those keys and put them back the in the ignition so she she did her because they keys if you don't I'm gonna kill you so he she does And he starts the car up again and he takes that straight razor slices off her she had her her her hair braided like a ponytail He like slit that off Oh shit He slit that off and just kind of threw it

On the ground And then She was kind of like Okay, whatever She was just And he just started yelling at her some more What did she punch him with? I don't remember

She hit him with something I think she just snuck him Because I don't I don't know Did she hit him with something? If anything thing it might have just been something and did she grabbed in the car because he kind of he jerked back and then um oh no he made her get in the in the back seat because he was gonna uh just do whatever he told her to get in the back so she got in the back seat and then um

while they were driving she uh pulled out her pistol the one that um uh chopper gave her and then she was just like come on just just pull over and then he was telling him he was like like no man he was trying to talk his way out of it but she was like she wasn't having it she was like hell no and he was like he goes you know what and he goes uh if you if you're to do this and goes they're gonna fucking take you to jail and they're not gonna do nothing to me because it's my word against yours and he knew that she had this huge record. Yeah, which is fucked up because that's

pretty much the truth, man. I mean, that's true because if you got a long record like she does, I mean, they're not going to believe her. And that's kind of what happens in this film after all this. Because he was just trying to talk his way out and then she was getting madder and madder

and he was talking all kinds of shit. And then he pulled over. and then she just blasted him I was like wait what I was like is this it? Because he

she was talking mad shit and then he just blew the back of his I thought it blew the back of his head out but he kind of like fell forward but then when he sat up

a minute later I think it like went through the back of his neck and came out the front like out of his out of his mouth or something yeah because I think it was the gun she had was like a little 22 or something it was a little small gun so yeah after she blasted him in the face I was like I couldn't believe it because it happened so fast because he was just like all right everything's good I swear she was like all right and then just shoots him. And I was like, okay.

I mean, you figured getting shot in the head, that'd be it. I was like, all right, because I was like, all right, well, is that it for Keeper Sutherland? Is that it for Bob? And then all of a sudden, he just sat up. Yeah, and then when she falls out the car, she just keeps shooting them over and over. He got blasted. He falls out of the car. And then she shoots him like twice in the back.

And then he goes down. And then she flips him over and rolls him. Takes all his money and everything. Then she pumps in a couple more rounds in her. I was like, damn. She wasn't as hardcore as she was because she kind of falls over and starts throwing up. and I was like oh damn what the hell is happening she uh started praying to Jesus and then she just like well they could they when they pulled off the side of the road they're kind of like it's off

the freeway but it looked like it was a small little uh cul-de-sac in the dirt somewhere so so no one can really see him and I'm sure you couldn't hear those gunshots especially if you're driving down the freeway so she rolls him and then takes off she goes in to this diner and she's got blood all over her face and all over her hands. I'm like, yeah, what does she say? I must, I must look a fright when she realizes she got blood on her. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I mean, I was thinking, is she just this crazy? She don't care that she's got blood all over her because she sits down and orders breakfast. And then the waitress is looking at her, but then now she looks at her hands and notices she's got blood all over it.

and then she goes, yeah, I must look a fright. And then she goes into the washroom and starts washing all those blood. Meantime, the cops are already at the, no, no, no, no. Bob, we see somebody like a first person view walking down the hall of a hospital. And it just gets blurry. And then we realize it's Bob. He stumbles into an emergency room and this nurse is standing there. And then when she sees him, he's like, faces all bloody.

He's holding, I don't know, a rag or something over his eye. And he's just like, help me, help me. Can somebody call my wife? And she, the nurse, just, she looks at him like, ew. I mean, what do you do with some dudes all bloody just comes? I mean, you're not ready for all that. Well, I guess you have to be if you work in a hospital. little. So obviously the

hospital calls the cops and he was aware enough to say to give a description. They don't show any of this. This is just we assume description of Vanessa because then Vanessa comes walking out of the diner and the cops all roll up and just grab her and throw her in the car and she's talking hell of shit and then they just take her off to jail like it's nothing.

And I think this scene, this diner scene is where she had the basket. Okay, let me back it up. I didn't notice. It was, I could be mistaken. Yeah. Yeah, she has a basket with her. So she's doing the, I think,

doesn't she have like a red jacket? Yeah, she's got a red, leather jacket. And yeah, she's holding a basket. She doesn't have that basket to begin with, did she? Yeah, that's where the beers came from. Oh, she got a chopper.

She had a basket of beers. That's okay. See, that's how much, showed you how much attention. I was paying attention. Back in the hospital, we see Bob all bandaged up, and he's screaming to the cops.

And, uh, Oh, this scene was hilarious. They're trying to get information from him. I mean, can you just wait until he's, is, is this one? they show her the picture. Yeah. And it looks like she's laughing at him.

He's like, are you sure? This is the person that shot, dude? He's like, yeah. I don't like this dude, this black guy. Because he was an asshole in Wolfgang Bonison. I think that's in him. He's Detective Beer. He was an asshole in a few good men. he was one of the guys that was on trial. He got on my nerves because he was disrespecting. He was an asshole. A few movies I've seen. Because when he popped up on the screen, I went, Ah.

I haven't seen him in much. I've only seen him in a few good men in this. So, I mean, I didn't know he was in this. But this is when a baseball classic little big league. I don't think I've seen that. Is that a Disney movie? So the kid is like the manager for the twins. No, I was thinking of, well, that was rookie of the year when that kid broke his arm.

And the muscle grew back too tight. Yes. Somebody thought if everybody loves seeing a kid play baseball, they would love seeing a kid play baseball. They would love seeing a kid manage the team. Yeah. So back at the hospital, Bob's wife shows up, and it's a very young and beautiful Brook Shields. I've always loved Brooks Shields, even since I was a little kid. He's way older than me, so.

But I didn't know she was in this either. And when she popped up on the screen, I was like, oh, my God, she looks so good. This is 90s, mid-90s, Brooke Shields. But she is just pitching and complaining and screaming. You guys need to find this monster and all this. And the cops, they acted like they just don't give a shit. But they have Vanessa locked up and they're trying to get the story out of her. She tells them the truth, the whole story on what happened, but they're reading her police record.

And they're just not having it. And it was like Bob said. He goes, look, you got a record. And it's your word against mine. And they're going to believe me. They're not going to believe you. She had a fucking record. She had multiple counts of prostitution, arson.

I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. How old are you again? That's why he was, who knows? Maybe that's why he was, he was probably, they didn't really go into it. But if he. Probably targeted her. Yeah, targeting those type of troubled teens that, uh,

aren't going to, people aren't going to, people aren't going to look twice at. because of their lifestyle and he picked maybe if she didn't have this lifestyle he probably would just all right here here's the end of the line you can get out and because if he finds these girls that have issues and especially a police record he could get away with it it's probably why he had the profession he did so he can find these girls and they're they're easy for him to manipulate because he knows how they think and stuff like that. that. Yeah, so they basically, they had her locked up and they're saying, well, you're not getting out.

Bob is still in the hospital or Mr. Wolverton. He's, he's in a hospital. And she, because she was trying to tell him on how much of a creepy was and what he was doing. And she even said, he's the I-5 killer. And they're like, well, did he say he was? And she's like, uh. He didn't say he wasn't. Yeah.

So, but these, these cops, man. these detectives they they weren't having it they're just like all right whatever but she she kind knew it she was like all right these these guys ain't they believe in me and then she just started going off because uh the black officer what did he say to her you see he referred to her as as just a little prostitute and she's kind of like well what does that mean and uh he was like telling her just come on just just tell us the truth and she was uh soliciting and he goes you just do what came natural huh and the other detective will tell him like no and she goes well that what's that supposed to mean and then he goes let's get back into the questions

and she's like no what's that supposed to mean and he goes do you think prostitution comes natural like being a inward and she she said more than that yeah she jumped up she goes well i don't like being called a natural born whore and and she dropped the inward uh few more times and the other cop was telling her just sit down she's like no and she goes back and forth with that other cop and then she goes is that why you shot him and she goes i told you why i shot him because he's a shit-skinned motherfucker and then she bitch slaps that guy twice with both hands and then she brings out the folding chair and she was all wrestling mode Yeah. She hit him in the head. And he goes flying across the room. And then she goes, I'll kick your black ass. And then she's still talking all kinds of shit. And then they end up just kind of.

The other detective is like, why did you say all that? And she was like, because I knew it would make him mad. She goes, I knew what to say just to piss him off. And she was like, give him my phone call. So she goes into the pay phone. She's handcuffed because he has to put in the quarter. She calls Chopper's house because she just wanted to see if he can help her get out out of jail. But then this is when she finds out that choppers did or he was murdered. And she's like, ah, so she just kind of, oh, fuck. So we go into the first court scene. And they're wheeling in Bob. And Vanessa turns around and just starts.

going all. Like, who the hell beat you with an ugly stick? And he's got... I bet you got one of the poop bags. He's got that big neck brace thing on his head. A halo or something like that.

I don't know what it is, but he is fucked up. That thing that keeps your head straight, his mouth is all like he's got a big water chewing tobacco in his mouth. Yeah, I think she calls him chipmunk face.

Yeah, his eye. I thought she, like, shot his eye out or something, but I guess it was just swollen because later his, he looked normal again. I thought she, like, shot him and the bullet came out of the eye socket or something. Because I was like, God damn, what happened? Because he didn't look like that when, um, when she first shot him,

because there was nothing wrong with his eye. was like it looked like it was coming out of the side of his neck and his mouth. Yeah, it was probably swollen from the inside. Yeah, so, but she's talking mad shit to him. The bailiff is trying to stop her. The lawyer is telling her to shut up. Then the judge comes in and lays down the law and just basically tells her to shut the hell up. And then, uh, you're going to jail to, uh, it was some kind of youth authority place until, I think she was.

She was there. she was there to be uh they were basically seeing if she needed to be sent sent to a prison for adults yeah because uh the other lawyer evaluation yeah he um he did the emotion for um to uh try her as an adult uh for all the crimes she did and the way she was acting there they were there probably were going to go that way anyway but that well anyway we can't do that now so you're going to go to this youth facility uh for women so she rolls in there and this is when we meet uh ronda

yeah very young brittany murphy and she looked like she had one hell of a life because she has just scars all over her face like i don't i don't know what she was into but she's like really i don't want to say weird but there's You could tell her there's something wrong with her.

I think she was huffing paint. Yeah. She said something about, they found a grab a tar in her vagina or something. Yeah. Then she goes into this whole thing about liking girls. Yeah, she's trying to put that out there.

Yeah, you ain't live life unless you've made out with both. I love Brittany and Murphy. Rest in peace. That documentary I saw was Her husband did it to her I'm sorry Everyone but oh man

She had it I didn't like everything she was in But a lot of the earlier movies And when she does roles like this She always did like crazy things Because she was Who was that movie with My girl Winona writer

And uh Oh Girl Interrupted Yeah She was kind of like this but she was crazy she was putting what chicken under her bed she was like a cross between that role

and the other movie she did was it don't say a word i saw that once i don't even remember that movie but yeah so she's standing she's brittney's talking to her was her name ronda yeah yeah she's talking to her and then she kind of tells us that all right there's uh some girls coming and uh venezsa stands of how many she's like like three but you only got to deal with one and this is um mosquito yeah fucking talking to you man i like her and everything she's in and i really liked her she's all is she Hispanic i don't know

because she was playing uh i think she was puerto rican and uh meet the fuckers because she she was speaking spanish and she had the accent and everything But she tries to rough up Vanessa, but Vanessa turns it on her and just starts whooping that ass, throws her up against the post right next to the pay phone, pulls the phone part off, and just starts beating her with it. I mean, she is. She's Puerto Rican and Mexican. Okay.

She, like, just beast the shit out of her. Everyone's cheering her. She gets her on the ground. and she grabs the pencil about to stab her in the ear. Yeah, Ron, is I stick it in her ear. Yeah, so they put her in solitary confinement and they drug her up and everything.

So she's just like, all right, whatever. And then she starts having crazy dreams about her grandma and her mom. She has a toothbrush and is trying to make a little sharp one with it, putting stuff around it and melting it and then shaving it on the ground to make it sharp. So she'll be ready for action. They kind of, they didn't let her out. They were going to transfer her, I guess, to somewhere else.

But then she sees there's a news story, and it's about Bob. It's an interview with Bob and his wife. What the hell? Minnie, or Mimi, Brooke Shields, talking to her telling her, yeah, everything that you're hearing about him is wrong. I mean, it's this girl that's crazy. But Vanessa is just sitting there watching it laughing. So, so they, so they kind of, where were they moving her to?

They, that lady had already evaluated. Basically, when she beat up mosquito, that's all she needed for an evaluation. And they were, I think they were transferring her to adult prison. Okay. So, well, before they were doing that, she was having nightmares and it was like a montage of all the crazy men in her life that were trying to touch her and everything

and then Rhonda wakes up and she said she just can't sleep and she Vanessa's kind of like I'll eff it all right we can make out but that's it no no fucking yeah

so they kind of start making out but then the guards show up and then they go back to another court scene and that yeah this is when they kind of realize that they want to move her. I don't know how many months or how long after this because when they show Bob again,

his eye isn't as swollen up. He doesn't have that thing on his neck anymore but his mouth is still all crazy and he has to talk with them. It looks like a CB. like one was the little CB receiver things that you're talking to. Yeah, like, King used to talk with. Yeah, he had something like that.

So then the cops started interviewing all of Vanessa's, I guess, friends at school. And they're telling some stuff that they already know about her. But they kind of all made it seem like that she was a really stand-up person. But she had a troubled past. and everything, but she was still kind of cool with everyone. And this is when they find out that Chopper was her boyfriend and that he died. Yeah, I guess the one guy was super surprised to find out that Chopper was black. Yeah.

What did he say? He said, she's a coal burner. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck? That's the first time I heard that. Yeah, I'm like, did you guys, did this movie make up this term? Because I've never heard that before. Yeah, I was like, okay.

Yeah, I'd never, ever heard that phrase before. But after he was hearing all of this, he kind of like, you know what? I need to go back out to the crime scene. And what's his name? Detective Garrett or Detective Wallace, he was kind of like, that's like two hours from here. And he goes, it's all right, man. I got to go out there and see something. So he goes, all right, go.

So Detective Veer, he goes all the way out there. And they must have did some shitty detective work because he gets there and finds a major clue, her hair that Bob cut off. Yeah, I mean, well, after he walks past it like three or four times. I know, but it's not right there. It's not like it was buried in dirt or something. But I think after he heard all the testimony from all these other people, people at the school that knew Vanessa, he was kind of starting to come around on it. And probably realized that she wasn't racist because her boyfriend was black.

But she said that. She goes, look, I only said what I knew was going to make him mad. And throwing that inward around that I make anyone mad. Yeah. And then add on the fact that the story about him cutting her hair off could be true and him finding the hair. Yeah. because yeah they weren't believing her i mean all the but the the the story she kept repeating was the exact same thing and they were kind of like yeah so but one the what's his name dan uh

how do you say his last name uh i think it's adia yeah uh yeah rest in peace um he was kind of believing it it was detective beer the black guy that wasn't wasn't it so all right this part was like, I don't think they would do this. They probably just let these girls pee on themselves. But they're transferring the to the two twins, Vanessa and what the hell was her name?

Mosquito. Mosquita. The twins. Yeah, twin one and twin two. So they go into the they stop at a gas station. They're not handcuffed. They're not seen. Yeah, this is so wild because I'm assuming they're all

high risk felons that they're being transferred to a different prison? Because I think Mosquitas in there for murder also. Because she was getting ready. She was saying that like look, as soon as I'm old enough, they're sending me off the prison for 20 years.

So she goes, I got nothing to lose. That's why she wasn't playing. Because they go into the the guard that's with him, a female. She lets him go to the bathroom. Doesn't stand there with them. She just stands outside. And it's just kind of like, all right, you guys done? Come on. And then they go

in there and they already had the plan and they mosquito like strangles that prison guard lady and then they go outside here comes the other prison guard that went into the mini-mart to get snacks and then he's like

where's officer so-and-so and they go oh she's inside and out steps Vanessa with her little sharp toothbrush and slices him I don't know how sharp that thing is but it sliced them all the way on his chest

and blood just was all over him. And then she's Sparta kick him. It's hilarious because she's like he ya! So we go back into the bathroom and Mosquita is killed at that other female guard and just start

stomping her face and they don't show anything. Who's a fucking lady now man? Yeah, so it's like what the fuck? So Mosquita and Vanessa jump in the van and take off and they left the two twins. And I don't know what happened to them, but the Vanessa and Mosquita, they find a

Mosquita's boyfriend and picks them up. And they're all happy. So they take off. And they get regular clothes or out of the orange jumpsuit and just kind of like, you know what, hey, it was cool. Everything's all good with us. Be on your way. So Vanessa, she takes off. The, we go back to Bob's house. He's not home. He's at like, uh, physical therapy. And the cops are starting to put two and two together, especially after, um, the detective beers found the ponytail. They go to Bob's house to find, uh, with search warrants to search it to see if they can find, uh, anything that can help their case. They end up breaking into or cutting the bolts, the lock off of, I don't know, some storage shit or whatever. tool shit out back. Yeah, and it's just full of porn and all kinds of... Child porn. Yeah.

It's just all kinds of crazy magazines and everything. Didn't they say they found like human remains in there or something? Or what they think might be human remains? Yeah, they find all kinds of crazy. Yeah, shit. And then she, because she wasn't believing it. She just thought her husband was a nice guy, but she's, they start telling her, look, man, this guy's doing this.

doing that and they're gonna they're gonna put him in the gas chamber and then she kind of just gets mad and runs upstairs uh runs all the way up to the second or third floor like the third floor and she goes into this room and then all of a sudden you hear a gun shot so all the cops go running up in there and she she killed herself she that because when we go in there i guess she stuck the gun in her mouth and blew the back of her head out yeah you got the blood and brain on the wall with the hair tire, little bow stuck to the wall too. Yeah. So while that's happening in the house, here comes Bob coming home. He sees all the police out in front of his house and then he kind of turns around and high tails it out of there. Vanessa's back on the street. I assume she was just trying to get money still trying to get up to Stockton.

So she's out there trying to sell it. a bunch of creeps. Some guy pulls over, gets her in the car, and, you know, how old are you? Are you underage? And she's like, is that a problem? He's like, no. And he, well, what do you want?

And he wants this. So they kind of pull into this alley. And then why she goes, all right, well, take off your pants. So he starts taking his pants off. And then she pulls out a gun and robs him. I want all your money. And then he's like, oh, it's all in the back. So he gets his wallet.

And then she gives, he gives her the wallet and then she digs in it. And there's only $5 in it. Is that all you were going to give me? So she's like, get out of here. She lets one of the, um, uh, warning shot out. And then she's kind of just like, pulls a gun on him. And she's like, nah, take your pants off. Take it all off.

And then she's getting ready to shoot him. And then she's like, all right, get in the trunk. And he's like, I'm claustrophobic. And he goes, I got to pee. And he goes, so what, pee in there? You notice he took off his pants and his boxes, but when he got in the trunk, he had like some tidy whiteies on. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck?

Well, I guess it wasn't in his contract to be fully nude. Yeah, so she throws him in the trunk. And was she about to kill him? Because she, like, squeezes the trigger and there's no more bullets. Yeah, that basically saved him that she ran out of bullets. Because she's like started pulling the trunk. trigger and she was like fuck and then she was like oh hell and just threw the gun in the bushes uh we go to a little diner and we see bob and he's in there being all nasty with uh with flow

the waitress and i don't i said hell no you need to get the fuck out of my restaurant yeah he's big what do you can i get some chicken soup with a fucking straw yeah i was like what the fuck he had the um the picture of Vanessa's grandma and on the back had the address to where her grandma was. Because she told him in the beginning that this is where I'm going. So

Vanessa finally makes it to the trailer park where her mom or her grandma lives and she's walking around looking for her and then she finds her. And she goes into her trailer and the cops are running around. They know she's going to her grandma. So they're trying to, they

show up at the trailer park but they're trying to figure out who and where her grandmother is. So Vanessa goes into the house excuse me, she sees somebody laying on the bed with a shower cap on and blankets over her eyes. And then

she pulls the sheet back and realizes that it's Bob. And she says, my, what big fucking teeth you have Bob. See, I'm now getting in all this red riding hood references. because he's he's in a shower cabin he's got his grandma's bathrobe on and i don't know what

uh many different stories and cartoons of uh the big bad wolf he he always has uh same thing a hair net or a shower cap on and uh her robe and here comes uh i guess the guy that owns the um uh trailer park uh he he he he's an all-star this guy's been in a ton of this. A gopher from Deep Cover. Yeah. And he was, I want to say his name was Sam in the Alligator. If you guys remember that movie.

Oh, yeah. But he before he comes rolling in, the camera spins around and he sees we see Grandma. And I don't know what was going on there. She's naked with a new

noose around her neck and she's all spread out to all four points of the compass. And he did some things with her before he killed her. Yeah. And then this is when that dude comes walking in. And then Bob shoots him and he goes stumbling out. I mean, I'll give it to Vanessa. She was no joke. She didn't just fall over because she attacks Bob.

And they had this big ass fight and he's shooting bullets every chance he can. Not at her. He's like, because she's like holding the gun up and beating them up with everything but the kitchen sink. And that guy that he shot stumbles out into the driveway. And this is when the cops pull up. And they're starting to hear gunshots. So they're trying to run in. But then they keep when they're hearing the shots, they stop. So meanwhile, Vanessa is still beating the shit out of Bob in the house.

She jumps on his back, starts slamming his head into the ground. and then she she grabs that little speaker wire thing that he talks with and wraps it around his neck and then just chokes him to death and then boom that's that's the end of bob and she goes outside to smoke a cigarette and yeah she stumbles up she sits she goes and sits outside and then she just asked them like do y'all have a cigarette? and she just has this smile on her face and everybody starts laughing it was fucking weird yeah because the cops go in she's sitting outside they see grandma all tied up they see bob laying on the ground

and uh detective wallis keeps going holy shit holy shit everywhere he looked holy shit and then he walks outside uh they start looking at Vanessa and she's just sitting there and she's all beat the hell and she's just huffing and puffing and

her mascara is just running down she kind of goes you all got a cigarette and everyone starts laughing and that's like what the fuck is going on that's your movie so I was like wait what's happening and

I love this movie I mean I've never this first time seeing it this movie was fucking awesome I was like damn what the hell is going on here. I'm definitely going to rewatch this and I got

thank you again, brother, for gifting me this because this movie was fucking sweet. If you got free it's on there or emcee plus, you can watch it there too. But man, this movie was awesome. Everybody in it, All-Star. There's a lot

of people that you know, a lot of people you love. Rest and peace, Brittany Murphy and Dan Hedaya But oh man When you pick movies You just find random ones you haven't seen in a while Yeah I just kind of

This one is because I had picked up the I got the same copy I sent you From Vinegar Syndrome Okay And I was like right on it was finally Because I think it's only been on DVD And then they gave it the 4K treatment And they did a great job

With the slip cover and everything yeah they did and I was just and I was like man we got we got to do this one I ain't seen this one in a minute and then you said you had never heard of it or seen it yeah

it's this movie was awesome this movie was tough everything about it the budget was 3 million and it looks like it only didn't box office millions

295,000 I don't I remember my friend took her teenage daughter to see it, her and her friends. And then she was kind of like, oh, that movie was not for kids. And I was like, okay. But I'd never seen it. She didn't even tell me what it was about. So I just never, I remember seeing it in the video store on the wall and just, not okay keep her settling Reese

Witherspoon and because I never really heard much about it I never heard a lot of people talking about like saying oh my God this this movie's awesome you gotta see it so yeah but I'm glad you picked it man because this movie was awesome yeah Matthew Bright was the director

and he also went on to direct the sequel Freeway 2 Confessions of a Trick Baby starring Natasha Leone as white girl and it's says the second film is somewhat based on Hansel and Gretel. Okay.

We will, I'll have to check that one out. All right, everyone. What you got? I don't know if we did it. If we did, if we did do it, say we did, because I don't remember. A Bronx Tale on AMC Plus. Have we done this yet? No, we haven't.

And that's funny that you, that's your pick, because me and my daughter, my youngest daughter was just talking about this movie today because she I just found out she made like she's got like a list of movies that she hasn't seen and she's her list is up to like 200 or something and she just watched the Bronx tale. Okay. Yeah. This is this one came out in 93. 93. Okay. I didn't see it until 94. But I'll get into that story when we talk about it. But yeah. Also. Robert De Niro, right? Yes. It's based off of Chas Paul commentary's a one-man show um basically his his life story because I just listened to um

growing up Italian and he kind of went into how he came up with this and his whole one-man play thing but yeah the name of the actor in it that kind of threw away his life uh see collogino

yeah he he he leilo Broncato Jr. Yeah, he was living that life and got out of hand. He went to prison for a while. I was listening to her watching interviews while he was in prison and then an interview after he got out and he went into what he had done.

So, but yeah, man, just don't be that life. I mean, it's weird that we'll get into it when we talk about it. But yeah, if you got MC Plus, it's on there. Also, there is a clear copy on YouTube. I don't know who put it up, but the whole movie is there if you don't have AMC Plus. And I think neither they just released or they're about to release it on 4K. Yeah. That's what Chas Palmon Terry was saying.

He goes, they redid it. He didn't know when it was coming out. But I'm like, you man, you bastards. It's uh, I bought a, um, a, uh, import. Because I love this movie so much, man. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I loved it the very first time I saw it. And I got it on Blu-ray and VHS and everything. And then, uh, I saw that there was a foreign, uh, or, um, foreign version of it.

Well, it's the same movie, but I don't know why they didn't put it on Blu-ray here. But it looks like they are now. steelbook if possible because they'll do it after the 4k release and then you fuckers you can make me buy it again either way I'm about again but anyway yeah again a Bronx tale AMC plus or YouTube

everyone's got YouTube and the copy is clear on YouTube so yeah I don't worry about any nonsense in it yeah Thank you so much for listening to 1996, this freeway. And it's, if you listen to this whole episode and haven't watched it, watch it. It's crazy.

We kind of skimmed over some things, but man, it's visually there's some stuff that needs to be seen. Especially the way Kieber Sutherland looked. He, man, he looked crazy. He reminded me of how Robert Gennaro looked in that Frankenstein movie. He did. He looked like that. I'll be deep to hell I haven't seen that movie in forever

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