The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #6: 10 To Midnight (1983)

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez team up with a hard hitting LA Detective to catch a serial killer on the loose in the 1983 Charles Bronson crime/thriller 10 to Midnight.   Listen and follow Brian and Nez's other show The Action Returns. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns      

A sensational crime. An airtight alibi. We can't lay a finger on this guy. And a chain of evidence. Bring him in. Charles Bronson is a cop looking for a killer, and he's running out of time. Go ahead. Take me in.

You can't punish me. When the guilty go free... The system is the crime. I want a killer and what I want comes first. Well, how come I've never heard him mention daughter? It seldom crosses his mind that he has one. He's one angry man with someone to protect. Wrong to you with your father?

I argue with that. He can make a difference. You like hurting girls? I won't answer that. Girls won't have anything to do with you, but you get back at them, don't you? I don't listen to your filth! Look!

Get to remind you about others to attain under duress? It's inadmissible, Leo! We've got no evidence that we can't hold this kid. He's all man, captain. I'm going to get him. Found some blood. He's flying. There was no blood on my clothes.

And he knows it. How do you plead, Warren? Guilty or not guilty? Not guilty. The last thing I want to do is get involved with a cop. Well, I don't blame you. I went back to the lab and I talked to the technician. And I asked him if you...

Why did you ask me? Isn't that true, Lieutenant? You'd plan to be evidence. You know why. We couldn't mail him sooner or later. After the county hospital? How many more did? He had to be stopped.

After all the evidence is in, he'll reach his own verdict and execute the sentence. By the deadline, when there is no justice. This man is the law. 10 to midnight. Charles Bronson, Lisa Eilbacher, and Andrew Stevens in a Golong Globus production of a J. Lee Thompson film. Ten to midnight. Back to another episode of THR Present Stream Fiends. We are going to talk about the 1983 classic Charles Bronson cult hit 10 to midnight.

But first, you know this is your host, Brian, and you know who's always with me? Somebody that's more badass than Charles Bronson himself. It's my brother Nez. What's up, man? Well, I don't know about that, man. Charlie Bronson is just legit he's

he's got so many movies under his belt as well as some TV and I was introduced to him was through my dad and me too watching Death Wish and the old

shoot him up cowboy movie Red Sun and Magnificence was it Magnificent 7 or yep yeah and a bunch of other things he he was

was in but I think what really made me start watching more of his movies was Death Wish because that was the first thing that I had said. Because I remember my dad was sitting there watching and I came in when playing and I just sat down and it was the edited version so I figured he said yeah it's all right

so I was like who is this dude? That's Charles Bronson and after that I just started watching everything I can get a hold of and then when I was able to just go movies by myself and I started seeing all the other Death Wish movies that were hit in the theater and this and evil that men do and what was that one Murphy's law and then there was another one the mechanic that one he was put I saw that one not when it was new but I remember we we saw

some one of his I think it was one when he was protecting the first lady um I can't remember that one someone's probably screaming it but I remember the mechanic was the It was a double feature at the drive-in. I don't think my mom really cared for Charles Brunton. My dad was all about him. But I was too, man. I was right there. Like, oh, my God, yeah.

I think the first Western one I saw was Red Sun. Mine was, as far as Western, mine was a white buffalo, the white buffalo. And I think he was Geronimo at one point. He probably was. I let it slide. He's Charles Brunton. All right, let's get into the synopsis. As always, we've got to go to IMDB.

An LAPD detective and his rookie partner on the trail of a psychopath young man who is murdering young women. All right. Let's go to Google. An outraged police detective and his rookie partner skirt the law to catch a killer of women. That's pretty, that's probably the short as Google synopsis we ever read.

I know, usually they're like full paragraphs. You know, tell you the whole movie. Let's see here. Directed by Jay Lee Thompson, produced by Pancho Conner, Lance Hul, written by William Roberts, and Jay Lee Thompson, writer and director. This stars Charles Charles, Charles Bronson, Lisa Ellenbocker, Andrew Stevens, Gene Davis, Jeffrey Lewis, Mr. Diabetes himself, Wilford Brindley. Speaking of him, were you there with us that year? They were all there for the thing? No, that was the year before.

Okay. It all blend together now. Yeah, I mean, I didn't get to meet him, but I went to the panel for the thing, and his, his line was always long. There was hell of people there. So, I was like, well, I saw him. And I got to hear him speak. So that was good enough for me. Somebody get a quicker Oaks thing signed or anything like that?

Oh, I don't know. I could see. You know how small that one room was. Yeah. Not, not the, if we're walking, there was left in the right, the one, I think the one in the one in the was a little bit bigger than the one on the right he was they were in the one on the right and it was this it was just packed in there especially around all those tables where all the the stars were so but yeah when was the uh first time you had seen this one uh couple days ago

oh duh right it right after i said that i realized i said this is the first time well as a first time man what did you think of uh 10 to midnight i dug it man i dug it. I do have some questions. I do have some reliefs, though. I'm glad we didn't have to see. We saw a lot of ass in this. A lot of man ass. I'm glad that's all we had to see. But I like what was going on. I liked Charles Bronson's character. You know, I can see, you know, I can feel that he was frustrated with all women getting killed and just getting outraged. And it was, it was. hitting more close to the home with certain women being killed and him his relationship with his daughter didn't really didn't really care for the rookie partner i just felt like he was kind of thrown in there uh the guy that uh played um what was to kill his name warren stacey yeah i thought he he played good because i was like this guy is fucked up there's something wrong with him but i i had to get to the scene because uh I got a shout out podcast, Nightmare Junkhead, because one of their hosts, he always kept saying this line. And he was like, it's for jacking off. And I was like, I got to see this movie because I have no idea what he's talking about.

And then when we got to the scene, he was like, you know what this is for. It's for jacking off. I was like, damn. I was like, what the hell is that thing? Yeah, I mean, even the first time that I'd seen this, and when they pulled that, out. I was like, what is that? And even watching it now, I mean, I laugh at it every time I see it. I know, I know the scene is coming and I know that line, but this is a movie Mike and I love. We actually saw this together. One of it many times. I'd seen this movie hell of times in the theater.

But that thing, I remember when we first saw that, we were like, what is that? And we, I mean, when VHS came around, we paused it and we were really looking at it. It looks like a, yeah. old school blender type of things with that big rubber. I'm like, what? Yeah, I don't even know how it would work. I don't know.

I assume you just stick it in that rubber part, but I don't know, man. That thing looked pretty rough. I don't know. I wouldn't want to try it, but I couldn't even imagine thinking about walking in there. I'll take this.

But yeah, that line, though, was killing me. It's for jacking off. And yeah, I just, you know, I just like to portrayal that Charles Bronson was doing with this detective. Like, because you know he's not supposed to be taking this stuff and he's like planting evidence and all this. But he knows that this is the guy and this guy is just getting away with it. And I just love that whole dynamic of the story.

And I thought the kills were going to be a little bit more brutal. but you know for for what it was it worked though and yeah this is definitely one if I if I see it I'm definitely going to pick it up um when I first saw this I didn't see it like right when it came out um the first no no wait wait let me change that every click I did see it when when it first came out um because I was thinking of uh Scarface came out in 83. And that was a movie that I didn't know what it was. At that time, nobody knew what it was.

It's like Scarface is huge right now, but but back when it came out, nobody really knew what it was. My cousin sold that to me. Oh man, that movie was awesome dude. And he just told me the whole ending, that was a whole shootout. And then I go, well, let's go see it. And I'm like, all right, fuck yeah. We went and saw it.

And this was the second film that came with it. Not like Scarface was in that last three hours right there. But then, uh, I had, already seen 10 to midnight. So I'm like, oh, man, I said, we got to. I said, you got to watch this one. This one's hell of good too. And my cousin was like, all right. So it was my first time watching Scarface and his first time seeing 10 to midnight. And that's like the ultimate double feature right there. So, but I already knew who Charles Bronson was. So I was all on board on this. It was at the theater around the corner from my house. And I remember seeing the poster, uh, staying when I

stand the movie theater was right by the bus stop so I would look at the posters and I love the artwork on this um I have the uh let me pull it out the um twilight time uh edition this was the first time it was on Blu-ray and I wasn't sure if anyone else was going to do it and then maybe shortly after uh the Shout Factory put it out uh I want that one because there isn't that many special features on here. I mean, there's audio commentary and everything, but I was watching some of the special features

from the Shout Factory one on YouTube. So I thought that was really cool. But I love this film. It's probably my second favorite Charles Bronson movie after the first Death Wish. And, man, yeah, I mean, he,

I keep on to call him Paul Cursey, but that was his name in, in Death Wish. she was Leo Kessler, a detective, a lieutenant, Leo Kessler and this. And I just,

I mean, Charles Bronson, he's never one of those ones with his facial features. It's always like the same. Like, I wouldn't want to see that because his facial expressions

in his movies meant business. I like the, I like the mustache, Charles Bronson. I don't like the clean cut one when he doesn't have it. To me, he just doesn't look right.

But, I mean, He got a little gray in his hair, and he fucking meant business. He wanted to get his man. I mean, there wasn't really any buildup to this one. I mean, we know who the bad guy is right when the movie starts. But we just see what Warren Stacey, Gene Davis was the actor on what he did. And they said he really got into the character.

He was really comfortable with the role. And yeah, he's when this serial killer. He was running around naked, so that was the reason why they couldn't catch him. And they were saying that, yeah, man, during cuts, he didn't, usually they come through a robe on him, but he was like, no, I'm good. And he was all right. And he was just standing there hanging 10 the whole time. But, I mean, it was really good. I mean, I loved everybody in it.

Lisa, I'm in Bacher. I mean, some of you guys know her from either Levin, Berythin or Beverly Hills cop she was in the first one Andrew Stevens he's been in a ton of movies as well as TV I remember him in that movie the Fury and some other cop movies so I really liked him as the the other detective Paul McCann Jeffrey Lewis was always cool to see him when he pops in

Wilford Brimley as well he was Captain Malone and then there was just the other ladies that the victims of everything that was going on in But there was a young Kelly Preston. Oh, that's right. She was in this as well. Rest in peace, Kelly Preston. Absolutely.

I want to say the young black nurse girl, I want to say she passed too. Oh, no. I'm thinking of someone else. Sorry, Ola Ray. Was she on a Friday in the 13th movie? She was in the thriller. Yeah. Yeah.

I was like, she looked hello familiar. She was a thriller. She was a Beverly Hills cop two and 48 hours. I don't remember where. 48 hours was the film she did right before this. But, I mean, again, I loved what Gene Davis did as Warren Stacey. He sold that role. And every time I had seen him in some other roles after this,

he's always just been like maybe a side character that had maybe one line. But in this one, he took that role and he sold it. He did it good. They were saying that he was really quiet on the set. He was just pretty much kept to himself. I don't know. I know a lot of actors like to do that when they get in these type of roles to where they don't want to meet with the other cast. They just want to keep them still staying character the whole time until the whole project is done.

But for the way they were talking about it, this is. the stuff I was watching on YouTube. So I figured that maybe that's the kind of actor that he likes to be. I don't want people to like me because they're going to hate me for the stuff that he's doing insane as in this role.

I really loved it. And Charles Bronson, these are the days where the movies were, there were never three-hour movies except Scarface, but these films were straight to the point. I mean, I was watching, when I was watching this the other night, I was laying in bed. I was

well, let me just start watching this and then I'll finish it in the morning. I started, was looking, watching it on my phone. And next thing you know, the movie was over. I watched the whole movie laying in bed on my phone. But I love this film, everything in it. But I'd have to say

if anyone that stole the whole movie, it was Gene Davis, the actor that played Warren Stacy, the killer in this film. Yeah. But on the other hand, I've really like Charles Bronson. There was just some scenes. Of course, you know, I have to say it again, that it's for jacking off. And then, and then the other scene where, um, he thought he found

evidence with the gum. And then the guy was like, oh, that's mine. And then he just went up and was just like getting on him about spitting the gum out and then stuck it in his pocket. And then for the next five minutes, the guy, you just see him like trying to get all this gum out of his pocket and like Charles Bronson is just he's he's over it he's he's off to the next thing and I just I loved his character yeah and I agree with you about a gene Davis has worn Stacy I like how the killer went through everything yeah it was a little bit too much man asked for me but I get what he was doing you know he he didn't want to leave no evidence he had his rubber gloves he I liked the scene in the beginning where he let everybody

know that he was at the movie theater so that way he'd have an alibi and i really i really like like the way he was doing his thing and um yeah charles bronson and and jean davis really really brought it for this movie i thought the roles i mean the parts and the scenes in the film uh this is streaming on amazon prime everyone if you guys haven't seen it um but every time they they they were in in scenes together mainly when they were dealing in the police station questioning him and all that or just the stone cold face just that main business Charles Bronson to where he just never ever looked like oh my god am I doing the right thing and never thought never even thought about the consequences of his actions or anything he was just stone cold straight face and did not

give a fuck he was a cop that been on the force for probably close to 30 years and seemed like he always got his man so because he was pretty sure out of everybody every time they were like well we don't have nothing on him we don't really think this is a guy

and he goes I know it's the guy this is our man we need to bring him in and we need to get him off the street because we don't want any more people end up dying so I mean he was dead set on bringing a Warren Stacy down so but We again, we already knew who the killer was right out the gate.

And, I mean, he, he wasn't a, a stupid guy. He planned out his kills. He, he was able to get away with it all. So, I mean, I really liked that about the story and everything. But then again, this film is, it's just straight and to the point. Boom, boom, boom, movie's over. So, but if you had to pick a favorite scene in this, what would it be? Yeah, the whole, basically the whole interrogation scene in the interrogation room.

Because I, yeah, that line makes me laugh every time I say it, but just the way that he was provoking Warren Stacey and, you know, showing him the pictures and making him look. And then, you know, it gets to the point where, where Leo, we'll. Hessler, Charles Bronson, actually puts his hands on him. And then, you know, that's when every, of course, you know, in the movies, that's when everybody comes in. Like, you can't do that. And I just, I love because, you, you kind of see that he was kind of getting to Warren Stacey and he was slowly breaking down.

Yeah. But then once, once they didn't have anything, you know, he kind of went back to what he was. But you can see that he got to him. And I just I like that whole interrogation scene. Because in the beginning of this film, we just see, well, this is a kind of quick little beginning intro when we're introduced to Paul. Paul Kersey. Leo Kessler.

Now, Paul Kersey's from Death Wish, everyone. But Leo Kessler, he's talking to some hobo, I guess. But he's trying to just do his job. And then we're introduced to Warren Stacey. So there was no. who done it or anything. We already know who's done. You see this guy and he's,

I mean, he did such a good doubt. He looked like a creep. And he worked in some kind of office building. He was the, the, not really the IT guy. He kind of fixed type of writers and changed the,

the tone and the printers and everything. But nobody liked him at that job because they just thought he was a creep. Yeah, because they all said that he always tried to, hit on people that showed a quick little flashback that one of the girls he was talking to that worked in the office. I don't know where she was, maybe in the copy room. And he like unzipped the back of her dress and she turned around through like coffee in his face.

Must have been cold coffee because if that shit was hot, he would, ah, but he, I don't know, he was just that weirdo. And he let off that weird vibe to all the ladies because they were saying that, Because some of the girls were saying, yeah, everybody's creeped out by this guy. But, I mean, they really didn't have anything. I mean, that should have been right there on zipping somebody's thing. He should have been fired right there. So we see him.

And then we see that girl. She's getting ready to go on a date with some dude in one of those old school vans. And then he's getting ready to put on all his clothes and everything. And his alibi was like rock solid, no holes in it. at all like you said earlier. He goes to this movie theater. And as he's driving, we're seeing quick little flashes of the girl going and going on her date.

So I figured that he must have been just making, eye and listening to her conversations. Because he knew where she was going for her date. But when he goes to the theater, he goes in and he makes sure that people know that he's there. He's flirting around with these two girls in line, kind of flirts around with some more during

or right before the movie starts. And then because when how he was doing it, he was just kind of like, hey, hey girls and all this. And they just didn't want nothing to do with them. Well, one of them. Yeah. And yeah, even even his interaction with the with the lady selling him to movie tickets. Like he's letting everybody know I'm

This is where I'm at. Yeah, because he did throw a little conversation with the girl selling the ticket. Like, hey, you wouldn't happen to know their names, would you? And I think she did know. Or I don't remember. So right there, all right, the ticket taker knows. He talked to her and then he was getting his popcorn. They didn't show that, but I'm sure he might have said something to them as well.

But when he goes into the theater, the two girls are sitting down already. He goes up and sits next. to him and tries to throw his mac down, they still ain't having it. And they kind of just get tired of them and they end up moving. It's calling him a creep. So the movie starts. He's just sitting there. Then he gets up and he goes upstairs to the bathroom, climbs out a window, and then shimmies down the ladder.

Runs across the roof goes down on this ladder and jumps in his car and heads to this lake. That's where the girl that he was after was there with her boyfriend. and she's uh they're in the back of the van and he's in there beating it up and then he uh this was i mean the first time i'd seen this i didn't know i mean you know he's going to go to kill him he's actually they show him peeking in and watching him but when he opens the van that's when we noticed that he's like butt naked he kills the the boyfriend she jumps out runs away and this is the sun isn't down yet it's still kind of light outside so she's butt naked as well. She's running in the woods trying to hide and everything. And he goes running after her. Yeah,

that was a lot of back shots of Mr. Stacy. Yeah, I appreciate when it was frontal scenes. I appreciate all the things that was placed to block. Yeah. Yeah. We never got to see his man junk, but we saw his butt pretty much to the whole movie. So he runs after her and catches her. And all right, I understand she's scared for her. her life and everything, but you kind of have to be hot quiet if you're going to hide. So, yeah. And let's let's run maybe, I know you're naked, but let's run somewhere where there's some people.

Yeah, I mean, don't, don't stop, man. And obviously people are going to stop. They see a naked lady running down the road. But he ends up, he has a butterfly knife and he just kind of stabs her in the stomach. It seems like he just got her once. But the boyfriend got it like the worst because you just see him over and over and over stabbing him. We never really saw like gore or anything. It was mainly, you know, he stabbed him.

And then when the camera shows them, they're like just laying there and they're all bloody. So that was pretty much shit. So after he kills her, he goes back to the movie theater and climbs through the window and everything. throws his gloves away. He, oh, he's butt naked, but he wears those plastic latex gloves. So he doesn't leave any fingerprints or anything. So he kind of pulls those out of his pocket and a plastic bag, flows up, and flushes him. And he kind of cleans up his knife.

And then he goes back into the movie theater and sit down. Movies over by the time he gets down there. So he had this all planned out. So when he's sitting on the movies over, those two girls that he was talking to earlier, they walk by and they see him. And then he walks up and tries to introduce himself or go through it again. And he goes, well, mind taking you guys out on a drink? And the one young one, or the smaller one was like, nah, I want nothing to do with you.

But the other girl, a little more hefty girl. Like, well, what do you got in mind? He goes, never mind. He goes, I don't want to get in the way of you and your girlfriend. You two sweethearts have a good night. And then he leaves. So right there, you knew he laid his. alibi down. But

later the police are all at the scene. Was it like the next day? Because it was still light. Yeah, I think it was the next day. Like the next morning. Because yeah, because when they left the theater, it was dark.

So this is when we're introduced. We're already introduced to Charles Bronson character, a detective or lieutenant, Kessler. And then we're introduced to Andrew Stevens character. He's another detective, Paul McCann. He's assigned to help Leo with the case. I assume he was just brand new to that precinct.

So because it didn't seem like anybody knew who he was. So he's there. Yeah, Charles Bronson is kind of scanning the scene looking around. Yeah, this is when he finds the gum and he's looking at it. And then that's when McCann. comes up oh I dropped that and then he's like oh you know this is a crime scene and then sticks the gum in his in his pocket and then pulls it out and leaves it in there so and then we're in a den this is when the great the great Wilford Brimley comes in he's

captain Malone and that's when he introduces them so yeah he's your partner so get used to him so they're kind of figuring out and well we just figured they came up here for a little lala and they get killed and they were just looking for evidence and they weren't really too sure on what it was. But how did they figure out it was him? I'm just lost now.

Well, they did the funeral. Oh, that's right. He showed up to the funeral. And then I guess I think they were questioned some of the ladies from the office. And they had said that they had some kind of interaction that

didn't go so well. And a lot of the girls were kind of saying that, You know, he's kind of creepy and I think that's how it goes. And then he run, I know at the, that's when he runs into Lisa Ellenbacher. And she's like, do I, don't I know you? And then he's like, do you? And you kind of see maybe something's going to happen there. And then, yeah, I think that's where it kind of went down from there.

Because he was spotted at the funeral. And I think he was being kind of weird at the funeral Well, he was kind of just standing off to the side And then when she when Lori Kessler is Lisa Ellen Baxter's character Which is Charles Bronson's daughter in the film Because when they were they were actually the girl that was killed Leo Kessler Charles Bronson he knew her family Because when he was the one that had to go tell her parents that she

was murdered. And before they left, her dad said, hey, man, she kept the, kept the diary. I don't know why he knew that, but like it moves the story along. Yeah. And they were saying that she's got everything in it for like every guy she's gone out with. Why didn't the father know? I don't know movie. She had, she had, she had, the father knows she has a diary about every man she's been with.

Yeah. So they know that. I'm going to get back to that in a second. So we find that out. Oh, no, no. You know what? I'm jumping ahead. He acted.

The dad actually said that at the funeral. And that's how Warren Stacey heard about the diary. But when he was kind of just eavesdropping, that's when Lori came over and said, do I know you? And he goes, you look familiar. So she wasn't really sure at that time. but so when they hear when he hears that there's a diary he ends up going to that girl

to where that girl lived breaks into her apartment and just trying to find the diary he gets to the one of the little nightstands next to her bed I assume that was just a one bedroom apartment and she slept in the same room with her roommate because it was two beds

yeah that would suck because what if one's trying to get down what do you got all right you go sleep on the couch or I don't know how it works. So he breaks into the house and he comes through either they were living on the first floor because he just came, he broke in through the sliding glass door. And he couldn't, he can't get the little nightstand drawer open.

So he's like, oh man, he's trying to break into it. And then he hears somebody coming home. And it's her roommate who actually works in the same building as her, as well with Warren Stacy. So he's hiding in the closet. She starts to get undressed and then she, I don't know why you get undressed to go cook, but anyway,

but she puts on a little like robe type of thing. It's for the movie. Yeah, so she goes in the kitchen, gets to, starts cooking up some lunch, and then she turns around and Warren's standing there and stabs her in the gut

with a big kitchen knife. And, yeah, I like this scene because when she falls down, you see Warren, like standing there. But the lights behind him. So all we're seeing is basically just his silhouette because he's facing her. And I don't know.

I guess he must have been too large because he didn't see it hanging down. So yeah, so she's dead. He goes back into the room and finally breaks open. Just basically breaks the nightstand to get the diary out. And then all right, this part was kind of lame. He picks the box up, sets it down because it's a box that says my diary. And then he opens it up. And then it's empty.

But I'm like, we shouldn't you have noticed that when you picked up the box? I'm sure a book has some kind of weight. All right. The diary. Warren learned about it right when Leo Kessler learned about it. Charles Bronson. So did Warren Stacey leave the,

the funeral and go straight to her house? Or did he go to the, store because the next scene he's carrying a bag of groceries so I don't know so I assume Charles Bronson and McCann must have went left the funeral and went straight to her house got it because they they just learned it they all three of them learned at that same time at the funeral and another question I got was the roommate she was at the funeral too. So maybe they talked to her at some point. Well, here's my key and maybe they went in and got it.

But I don't know. It was that scene always, it never stuck right with me. Like how the hell they get it so fast? Because the next scene, Warren shows up at his apartment. He's holding a bag of groceries and he goes to open the door to go into the hallway to where his apartment is. And Kessler and McCann are standing there. And so they want to question him. So they. they go to. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah, they, their question everyone that's in this book that they must have just skim through really quick and read and found out everyone. But I think how they got, how they came to him was once they got in the house, they started giving him just the regular routine questions. Where were you that night? And that's when, where were you the night of the murder? That's when he said, I was at the movies. I saw Butch Cassie and Sundance kid. And then, well,

did you, does anyone know you were there? He goes, yeah, I talked to the ticket lady. He did some girls there and the concession worker. They're like, all right, so they're writing it all down. And then he's kind of putting things away and turn around. And this is when Kessler pulls out the diary and starts reading a little phrase. He goes, yeah, he's kind of cute, but he's a creep. He really makes my skin crawl and stuff like that.

And then he, because Warren Stacey turned around, like, well, what's that? And he goes, oh, it's just, I can't remember the girl's name that died. It was her diary. And like, oh, that's when he read the little description. And he goes, he goes, do you know who that is? I'm like, no. He goes, I'll give you a guy. He goes, I'll give you a guess or a hint.

It's you. And they basically told him, well, don't leave town. We might have some more questions for you. But before they kind of got into that little thing, that's when Castle goes, can I go to the bathroom? He goes, it's right there. So he goes in there. All right, I got something right here to say as well.

well. He goes into the bathroom. He's looking around. Just kind of looking around for clues of anything to make sure that this is the guy. This is when he pulls out that big jack-off machine, whatever the hell it is. He pulls that out. It was under the sink. And okay, right here, this is just me analyzing the scene. He's got magazines on the back of the toilet, actually sitting on the tank. He was talking about he was all about women and all that flirting with all the girls trying to get him But he had a gay porn magazine right there

Again, I don't know, I mean whatever float your boat I mean not saying that is bad or anything but Or maybe he just swung both ways So that was kind of I noticed that the first time I'd seen it and I was like well, why is that there? But then again everyone I was what 12 years old when I saw this I'm not as woke as I am now but so I was like okay and then and well I guess they went when they went back well no you know what okay now I'm analyzing the movie too too too hard so he puts the jackoff machine back and he flushes the toilet and he walks out and like all right well that's all the

questions we got for you and we'll talk to you later so they leave and we go back to the to the precinct, Wilford Brimley, Captain Malone, and Charles Bronson and McCann, they're talking to him, and they go, well, what do you think? And he goes, he goes, this is our man. He goes, we got to get him. And then the captain turns to

McCann and goes, well, what do you think? And he was like, well, I don't think I'm really qualified. And he goes, well, are you a cop? Are you here? And he goes, yeah, then you're qualified. So, but then he was kind of like, well, I'm going to go right along with the lead detective, Kessler, and what is.

doing. They're like, all right, well, they go, well, we need to bring him in here to question him some more. So that's when they, they bring him in. And they, they have the pictures, the murder pictures and they're grilling him more about the night of everything. He's in the interrogation room. And yeah, this was, was rough right here, man, because he was like, hey, and he goes, well he's sitting there with his his lawyer I think it was a public defender or something like that at that time but he was like all right and he goes well he goes look here's some pictures these is the and he goes

he goes were you ever did you ever go out with any of these girls and he goes yeah I kind of went out with her but she wasn't a very nice guy or very nice girl and oh and then that's when he was like he leaned in he goes do you like her no he goes he started talking about a story

I don't know where he got this information from but he had mentioned he goes what might have been in a police report or something

I guess when Stacy was younger he had said he goes yeah he goes uh have you ever had any altercations

like just with any girls and he's like no and then he's like well how come uh

you threw a he goes when you were younger you cut your neighbor's daughter with a knife and he goes, it was an accident. And he goes, he goes, I was upset.

She wasn't a nice girl. And he goes, yeah, you threw a dead cat through her window. And then he was, that's when he just leaned forward. And he goes, do you like hurting girls? And he was like, I won't answer that. And he goes, he goes, yeah, he goes, I think you do.

And he goes, but you probably don't hurt them right there, but you get back at them, don't you? And that's when he pulled out the pictures. And he was like, look. at him. Look at him. He grabs her back of his head. And then he kind of gets up like that. And they're like, what the hell are you doing? And he goes,

ah, he goes, he goes, women don't want nothing to do with you. And he's like, he's just getting mad. That's when he pulls open the drawer and pulls that big jack off machine. He goes, Warren, do you recognize this? Leo, not at all. You ever see one of these before? What's it used for?

What's the matter? Cut, got your tongue? It's for jacking off, isn't it? And that's when they're like, they're like, he could, all right, stop. The captain comes.

Before the captain wasn't in the room, they had that two-way glass, and they had the two girls from the movie theater, which I don't know. Well, I guess the ticket taker knew them. So that's probably how they found them.

But they were like, yeah, so this is the guy that you were talking to. When did you see him? They said, we saw him before the movie, during the movie, and after.

And they go, are you sure? And they said, yeah, that's him. All right. So, That one girl is still all about it.

Yeah, she was. I mean, she's trying to get hers, too. But then all that hoopla went on in, and that's when Captain Malone came in and said, all right, man. He goes, what are you doing? And then he go, all right, get out of here, kid. And Kessler's like, man, he goes, that's our man, man. He's the one. I know it.

And he goes, well, we got nothing on him. And he goes, we got to let him go. So he goes, all right, kid, get out of here. So they kind of had a little stare down it. And then they threw them out. They were recording the whole thing. So the lawyer stopped the tape, pull it out. And he goes, look, this, you can just forget this.

This isn't any good. But, I mean, that's the kind of how the law he was doing. He, Kessler, Charles Bronson knew this was the guy. So that's why he was playing hardball with him. I mean, that's what I like. I know it's against the law to go that way. But he was one of those cops, man. He's willing to put his job on the line.

to get his man. That's what I loved about. Leo Kessler's character. So during that, they go back into the captains and they're talking and they're saying, well, we need to get him in here again. Give me another crack at him.

And Malone's captain's like, for what? We don't have anything on him. His alibis, there's no holes in it, nothing. And they go, I don't know, get him in on like a traffic violation or something just to get him in there. get to get him more. And this is when Leo's daughter shows up, Lori. And she's

kind of just like, hey, I need to see my dad. But Kessler's talking to the captain, so McCann goes, well, I'll go out and talk to her, so she goes out. He's just trying to tell her, I just need to see my dad because I remembered something about a guy that was

at the funeral, and that's when she had mentioned Warren Stacy. Then, I think with McCann, it was kind of of the gears were starting to turn but he still wasn't sure because he McCann was the thought the the kind of copped it I'm going by the book I'm following the law and because I assume he was just a new detective so he just tried to do his job so they figured all that out they go and visit Lori

Kessler's daughter and then she does she kind of goes into the explanation little story on what she knows of him and how her friend, one of the little girls that got murdered, um, um, was telling her about this guy that they worked with. Uh, Lori didn't work with her. She worked at, uh, I think it was a nursing school or something. Mm-hmm. So at this time, this one, they're, they're kind of like, all right, this is a man. We really need to watch him some more. Lori invited, uh, McCann to go to a party. Um, and then that's when she told him about, uh, Stacy, Warren Stacy, that they kind of knew him.

So that's when, because McCann said, nah, I don't feel like going to parties. But then when they knew that she knew him, that's when they're like, all right, I'll go with you. So that's when they came up with the idea, look, man. Not saying that he was going to go after her, after Lori, but they said, well. Oh, and then she also mentioned that somebody was calling their house and leaving, like, just talking dirty and speaking Spanish. earlier when they first were questioning Warren Stacey at his apartment

the first time there was a bull fighting poster with some Spanish writing on him and he was able to read it and then oh you can speak Spanish and he said a little bit and then when Lori said yeah this guy calls and he's got like a Spanish action and he's saying dirty things and

speaks in Spanish and that's when they were kind of like hmm this might be him so this guy had the worst Spanish accent ever It wasn't even really It was just his normal voice But he just threw in some kind of Spanish words

He didn't even try to change his voice But when McCann goes to the To the dorm where Lori lives With I think like three other nurses They have their phone tapped They said they put her microphone

on the receiver and we got this big giant huge tape recorder that was it was like the size of a VCR those old school big top loaded ones yeah just press these two buttons and when you got if he calls again so they're like all right so that's when they go to a party quick scene da da da da da party messing around yeah and then they kind of make out for a minute uh when mccan takes her home and then the phone ring so they go rushing into the house And she answers it. They press the recorder and it's Warren Stacey. He's like out on a pay phone somewhere talking, yeah, I love you.

We'll do it every way it is and I'll fuck you in the ass and shit like that. Crazy stuff he was saying there. And they were like, just keep him on the lines. We can get a good recording. And she was like, oh, yeah, well, where can I meet you? and he was like what what did you say in because something about like I'll piss on you I don't know something they got really graphic whatever he said there he seemed to when she was like well okay let's go ahead and meet he seemed to get super angry all of a sudden yeah and he was like

he goes what I tell you what I love and I love to stick it to you and all this and he goes well I thought you love me he goes your your father's a pig, your mother's a whore. Because I wouldn't piss on you on the best party of you were just begging for it. Then he hangs up. So they got the recording. They're down the police station. They're listening to it.

McCann, Kessler, and the captain. And they're like, all right, I think we got something to bring him in. So they do more stuff with him. I think this was the jacking off thing. But I don't remember. We're jumping all over the place. foot. Again, they still had nothing on him because they're like, well, it's just a phone call, really.

We don't know if it is him. If he's the one, kill, they don't have nothing about murders or anything. So they're not really sure. But they're rallying in him up at this point. And then because Kessel's like, I know this is him. So that's when he really starts going after him. He like breaks into his, Warren Stacey goes home one night. turns on the lights the music comes blasting on he's got all these rigged up booby trap things and lamps fall over and all that and then he gets a phone call and he answers the phone and then uh kessler's on the phone you having fun mr stacey and then he gets mad and hangs up because before all that he was chasing him around uh like if he was if stacey was driving down the road uh kessler would pull up next to him smiling and just kind of just trying to get at him to make it basically making them go kill so

because he was getting all mad I think that was the reason why he went after um uh lorry uh Kessler's daughter because that's when he started calling her and then okay right here I got a question how did he know the phone number I mean it's not like you can well I guess it can in those days everybody's phone everybody's names of phone numbers were in the phone book So I assume that's how I got the number But he was pushing him But Warren No, wait, wait, wait

We I think we skipped a part where Charles Bronson's going to Plant the evidence on him Okay, because all right, because I was trying to go to The job Because remember when he gets fired Yeah, that was because he goes

Warren goes back to his work I think he he got he had already gotten arrested I think because then that's when he went back to work but he was already cleared

and that's when his boss was brought him into the one room and I guess that's when all those pictures were on the wall of the dead women I think that was when it was all when it was all happening because it was because when he was messing with him that whole time he Warren goes back to his work and oh no no way wait

no they the his work finds out that they were that he he was a suspect because none of those girls because they kind of show the girl why is he working here we don't want him working here he's they just think he's the one that they killed her, but they didn't have no evidence. So when

Warren goes into his little office where he works, his boss is in there, a supervisor, and he's like, what is this? And it's all the murder pictures of the girl that he killed at the lake. And he's like, I didn't put those there. Those are mine. She goes, I don't want you work in here anymore. You get out of

here. And so he basically gets fired from his job. And then he walks over to the window and looks outside and the camera kind of zooms in and we see Leo Kest, Charles Brunton standing outside just kind of looking around so he knew who it was so Stacy started calling no he didn't start calling him until after I think at this time they knew well Leo Kessler was the only one that knew that he knew 100% this is our man this is

the guy that did it and the only way that they were going to get him is uh they because when they went to get him the second time after the tape they because they went to his house they took everything i mean just ransacked his house and then they were gonna take his clothes and everything but leo said no just take uh the stuff he wore the night he was at the movie theater so that's when uh they they brought him in they arrested him uh they took him in and then uh the lawyer was talking to him and he's like well i want you to say this and that and he goes well i didn't do it they don't got nothing on me but this is when Kessler comes in and goes, well, hey, we found some blood on your clothes.

And then Warren was like, ah, he goes, you're lying, it wasn't me. And he like flipped out. I mean, that's how good of an actor he did. He goes, he's lying. He's lying. And then he was, no, he's like, no, he's all crying. And he was convicted of murder.

So he went off to jail. But, I mean, I jumped ahead. Before all this, because they said they found drops of blood on his clothes, and the blood was from the girl that was murdered. But we all knew that wasn't true because of him running around naked. But before all that happened, Kessler was just trying to figure out to do something. So again, he's the kind of cop that's going to do what he's got to do to bring in the criminals. So what he did is he went, the tape that they had, the recording of him,

He went to, I don't know what that place was where he went. And it's obviously in the police station. And I guess later night, you can smoke weed and all that. Because he wanted to drop that tape off down there and have that guy file it. I assume it was some kind of filing thing. And I got a question right here. But so he's telling him, because, yeah, I want the tape we got in there. Oh, they actually had two cassette tape.

They had the tape of the one when McCann was with Lori when they recorded. But then they had another recording because they recorded another conversation. Another time he had called and was talking on nasty to the girls. So he goes, all right. He goes, well, I want you to put this other the second tape in evidence with the other tape. And the guy that was like, okay, I will. And he goes, well, when are you going to do this? Oh, you want me to do it now?

And he was like, yeah. So that guy gets up, gets the tape, goes in there and starts fine. filing it. So while that guy was out of the room, Kessler walks into the, to another room where there's a refrigerator full of blood samples. All right. I think these two things would be in two separately departments.

I don't know why blood samples would be with the filing things, but I don't know. Small department. So he actually took blood samples. He got a little syringe and took some of the blood. at a little vials and that's how he put blood on stacy's clothes and then the whole scene of him telling him that he got busted he they did a little quick little court thing basically saying all right we found blood and uh your main court case is going to be later on uh i assume back in the 80s

justice went pretty quick because usually once you get convicted you're not going to get your main trial until later on much much later on some of these criminals now sitting death row or whatever for like 20 years before they actually get to their cases but then again it's a movie so you got to move it along so um they so they find out okay he's he's he's the murderer uh and everything so again i think i jumped ahead with all i think after uh he was convicted and then everything uh they were going to uh no i didn't jump it i'm sorry i'm tired anyway um So after he was convicted and everything and they were getting ready to do the main trial, but like the pretty much like the night before, or actually that that first arraignment, McCann was talking to Kessler. Like how did they find that?

How did they find blood? I mean, this guy's been so good with his stories to this point. How did they find this? It didn't sit right with McCann. And he was like, he was, what does the matter? He goes, he's arrested. He's the one. We got him.

Let's, let's move on. But McCann, it was like, I can't accept that. And he told him, he was like, he just wasn't sure. So he started doing his little side investigation. And he ended up going back to that room or that little evidence room where that guy was. And he was talking to him. He was like, yeah, he goes, so when did he come here? to drop something off he goes yeah he came in here the other night and um i was in here and he thought

he was busted for smoking weed he was like man he goes they brought in this big primo stash of grass what they called in the 80s everyone so and he goes it was just too good and then he took some of it to smoke and he goes well what are you talking about he goes oh you talking about the the weed is like no he goes about the the tape and everything you're like oh yeah he came in here and dropped that off. And he goes, were you with him? He goes, yeah, the whole time. And he goes, in this, or no, he goes, you were with him the whole time? He goes, where else would I be? He goes, no, were you with him in this room the whole time? He was like, no. He goes, what do you mean? He goes, when I went to go file the tape, I came back and he was

somewhere else. He went where? He goes, he was in that room. And then McCann walks over and and opens it up, looks in there, and sees the refrigerator. And then he goes, what's in that refrigerator. He goes samples, blood samples. And that's when McCann was like, fuck. So again, fast forward to the arrond of, I assume the sentencing. And then he kind of, before they go into the to the courtroom,

uh, that McCann is talking to Kessler's look, man, I went to the place and that guy said you were there and you were around the blood samples. And he's like, Basically, you need to tell me if you did it or not. And at this point, Kessler was, he wasn't going to lie. He was like, he goes, damn right, I did it. I did what I had to do to get rid of him because then he was like,

you want me to go in there and get, take the stand and lie? Because I could lose my job, go to jail and all this. And then he was like, he goes, man, he goes, I had to do it. We had to get this guy off the street or more people were going to get killed. and then he was like man if you can tell me something and I'll just

I'll do whatever you say if you make it if this is going to be right and I think it just kind of got to him to Kessler and he was like fuck so at this time he knew he was busted

so they were just about to give Warren his sentence Kessler walks in there wanting to kind of nudges to the lawyers to come talk to him

they lean over to him they're whispering around but you see that lawyer's face like oh oh fuck and then they walk up to the judge and man we approach the bench and they're like yeah so they go up there

they're talking and talking in full courtroom and Stacy is like what the fuck's going on and then the judge is like are you willing is this true and they go to Kessler

and he's like yeah so he admitted to planting evidence so I quit another thing right here so warrants cleared and free he was framed for murder and now the truth came out wouldn't you think they would have took uh leo kessler right then and there and put him in jail for doing what he did kind of seemed like they didn't care i mean that stacey got off but then they were just kind of like oh kessler you're you're suspended

or fired and that's it. Just kind of, yeah, I see what you're saying. It kind of seemed like they would take him into custody before he even left the building. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got maybe close to 30 years on the force, but I mean, you do something like this, which is totally against the law. I don't know, a movie. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that they would take you into custody right then and there. But he's fired.

He's at home. He's sitting around with his daughter. getting all drunk and he just takes her home just you guys be safe i'm gonna go home and i'll be all right he gets that he gets back home uh he gets a phone call and it's warren stacey and he's telling him oh how you doing what's going on and basically telling him yeah he said you you i'm i'm gonna get you i'm gonna get you that that's not exactly what he said but that's what he was telling him and he oh you have a good night and then he hangs up and he goes you too mr stays no he goes i'll be seeing you and then he hangs up and he goes i'll be seeing you too and then that's

when he's getting ready to gear up for battle um but uh at this time warren is mad so he's other than he was the he's he starts he's gonna go after uh his daughter uh because he knows that and he knows basically knows where he she lives and everything so he uh gears up gets his a little switchblade now that's another thing man why would if you get your murder weapon why would you keep that in your apartment he had a hid in one of the sink in the bathroom in the pipes because he undid it and pulled it out of a plastic bag. I think if you're going to be killing people, I mean, you either get rid of that weapon right after you use it or don't leave it in your apartment where they could find it, but movie.

Yeah, now that you're making or saying that, it does kind of not go with his character, how he was just planning everything right down to the smallest, detail. Yeah, to just keep a murder weapon that killed. Well, I guess he only killed one person. The girl in the beginning, because he killed the second girl with the, no, he uses it again. Never mind. I'm tired of him. He killed the guy too. That's why. He killed that dude and the girl, but he killed a girl in the apartment with one of the knives that they had in the kitchen.

So he he gears up and he goes to the nurses school. And he goes to the apartment poses as a flower delivery man. I don't know who delivers flowers in the middle of the night. All right. So when they go to open the door, Charles Bronson, because he finds out, I'm jumping ahead Warren gears up He goes

Leo Kessler's following him around Because he knows He's just trying to follow him By this time he's already off the force He's fired and everything But yes he should be in jail But okay So he's following him around

He follows Warren He picks up a hooker And hey how much Oh whatever And then she jumps in And they take off They go to a little sleazy hotel tell. He checks in.

Got a bottle of hooch. There's a dirty old hooker. And then just says, hey, I need a wake-up call. So they go upstairs, get naked. Well, she did. He's in his spankies. And they're drinking. And he's like, no, drink up.

And she goes, I can't be getting drunk on the job. And this was funny right here because she's like, she's already basically naked and ready to go. And he goes, where are you going? He goes, I'm going to take a shower. He went, why? I like to be clean. he goes in the bathroom, dumps all the hooch in the toilet,

and then next thing you see him walking out of that room, and he climbs out a window and jumps in his car and heads over to the nursing school. Charles Brunton, when he was following him, he got kind of cut off by somebody, and then he pulls over to where those other hookers are, and they say, hey, who was that girl that was here? That was Susan or whatever her name was.

And he goes, well, where does she take her tricks? Oh, she takes them to this hotel. So that's when he raced over there and gets to the front desk. And like, hey, man, there's a guy that checked in with a girl and da-da-da-da. And he's like, oh, I don't know. And then he pulls out his badge. No, I think he threw money at him or something. Oh, here.

And then he gives that guy, give him the key to the room. So he runs upstairs. He opens up the door busts in there. The hookers laying in bed. He walks over and look at her and she's dead. I think he'd just strangle her because there wasn't no blood or anything. So he's like, fuck, he runs downstairs. Warren's already at the nurse's apartment.

And the doorbell rings. One of the girl looks saying, oh, it's a delivery man. And the phone's ringing. One of the other girls answers the phone. And Charles Bronson's like, don't answer the door. Don't let anybody in. And they're like, what? As that girl's opening the door.

Kelly Preston. Yeah, young Kelly Preston. Again, beautiful, rest and peace. she opens up the door Warren's standing there butt naked holding flowers he comes in stabs her because before that happened

the girl was like don't open the door and then he's when he comes busting and kills her one of the he goes over and grabs one of the other girls because those three girls in there he killed Kelly Preston he walks over to the other girl and they're like where where is she where's Lori and she goes she's not here she's not here

but Lori was there yeah she was like in another room of this big huge dorm room that they were in. So she was kind of hiding. I think she slid under the under the bed. So Warren's like, where is she? Where is she? Go, she's not here. She's not here. She's just scared out of her mind. This scene kind of went a little too long because he's like shaking the shit at her for like a few minutes and just like, where is she? Yeah. Yeah, it did. This scene does go on for a while. I mean, I assume nobody heard all this because they were loud and banging around in

there. Yeah, because this is supposed to be like a dormitory. Yeah. With, I guess, only four nurses that stay there. I guess. Charles Bronson is trying to haul ass over there to the place. And so he's like, where is she? Where is she?

And she's not here. She's at the hospital working late. And then he kind of glances over towards the bathroom. There's another thing. Why is the bathroom door open if that girl's in there taking a shower? Anyway. But he noticed there's the young, Ola Ray, the young black lady, she's in the shower. And I don't know why they need to show her naked, but all right.

So he looks over there and she's like slowly pulling her towel down and he sees that. So he walks over, he drags that other girl in there, throws her on the ground. And he opens up, he's starting to open the, it's like a glass door for the shower. she's trying to hold it and he pulls it open and just stabs her in the gut and then she's dead she goes down he's looking at her and he turns to the other girl why don't you tell me she was in there you made me kill her why and that girl's just ah crying and screaming and he slowly walks in front of her and then when he moves away she she's dead so lorry is still hiding under the bed trying to be as quiet as she can So he killed Kelly Preston, Ola Ray, and whatever that other girl's name was.

So three girls are dead in that room. And he walks over and he's looking around. Doesn't really see anything. He hears a McCann actually left a police radio there for them, which is totally against the law. But all right. So he left the radio there. So he heard it. Yeah, we can say that he likes to bend the law here and there.

So he reaches down, he picks it up and kind of just throws it. And then he starts to leave because she doesn't think she's there. So he like starts walking towards his door. He stops, runs back to her bed, moves it and sees it she's laying in there. So they kind of get into a little, a little spat. And she's throwing things at him. And he's getting ready to kill her. He grabs her.

And I guess it was a curling iron. that was there already hot and ready to go. She grabs that, burns him in the face, and he's, ah! And then she runs into the bathroom. And all while this Charles Bronson is hauling ass to the school, he gets on his radio, calling McCann. And I don't know why he still has a police radio, but okay. He called McCann, yeah, get to the school and to whatever, to Lori.

He's going after them. So McCann's hauling ass over there. we go back into the apartment or we go back into the to the dorm room Warren's trying to he's kicking the door I mean here he is butt naked all bloody and he's kicking the door putting bloody footprints on the door

and then we hear a car pull up and then she's like that's my dad he's here and then he kind of goes don't worry man he goes I'll be back and then so he runs out of the apartment and she's in there crying because she's in there with her two friends that are laying there dead. And so she kind of comes out and, oh, no, this is when she burns him.

She comes out. The Curling Island, right? Yeah. She comes out of the bathroom, looks around. Warren jumps out and grabs her. And that's when she grabs the curling iron and burns him in the face and he falls down. She goes running out out of the room down the stairs and in the street and barely trotting along. Warren gets up and runs after her.

He climbs out this window because he sees, here's Kessler coming up the stairs. He busts into the room. Lori's running for her life. Warren Stacey's running after her. He goes in a room, sees all the dead girls in there. Then he goes hauling ass out. I got something to say when we get to the brinket. It's hell of funny, though, because Lori is like just crying, running for her life, but like barely trotting along.

and then we see Warren Stacey like just full stride hauling ass this dick probably slapping both legs because of him like we're allowed to ride I said yeah man he's he's running down the road

just probably dick just slapping his legs because I saw this in my hood theater around the corner from my house and I remember there was a black guy these were the days when everyone used to just scream out

and talk to the movie screen And every I remember the guy That was sitting behind He was like man My dick would be hurting Slathing my legs like that So

So he's running He's running down He just about grabs her And then Because we already see Leo running out of Charles Bronson Running out of the dorm room

She's running up Warren's just about to grab her And she runs up and stops And then she It's Leo Kessler Charles Bronson He's holding and he's got his gun out and Warren stops.

And I don't know how all the cops knew exactly where they were once they left the doorroom. But all these cop cars pull up. There's a helicopter flying around. And then he goes into this big dialogue. Then Stacy goes, all right, well, you got me. And then he's like, all those girls. And he goes, he goes, I don't. I don't know why.

He goes, I don't know what it is. There's like a voice in my head telling me to do it. And he goes, and I'm sick. And he goes, you can't do, you can't hurt me because I'm sick. And then this is when the cops all show up and they start handcuffing them. And he goes, but don't worry, man. He goes, they'll put me away. He goes, but I'll be back.

I'll be, I'll, they're going to let me out because that's the law. And he goes, and you're going to pay for you in the whole fucking world or you're going to see me again. you in the whole fucking world and he's handcuffed and the cops to stand it to hold him and then Kessler's like no he won't shoots him a headshot

and blows his brains out and then that's it that's the movie wasn't it that they heard that he said he was going to act like he was insane

yeah I mean many witnesses heard him other than him and her. Again, they were already hauling ass. I don't know how far they ran.

I assume it was blocks. And old ass Leo Kessler comes running out. What did he do? Did he go another direction and cut through the back of these buildings to get in front of them?

You know, that Jason Voorhe's speed, I guess. He was a get that teleporting ability. Yeah. And the only problem I had here, I wish I would have seen some sort of fallout from the partner because of him basically telling everybody that Kessler,

you know, planted evidence this led to three other women getting murdered. Yeah. And you just kind of never see him. Yeah, he didn't even show up to the final showdown. I mean, We just have the, we just see a Kessler calling McCann. McCann go to the school.

He's going to be there. The whole police force showed up. Yeah. I mean, there was like multiple cars and a helicopter. So where was this taking place? What city? I assume L.A. I mean, I'm not really sure.

There's nobody around while a naked bloody man runs around. I guess. I mean, no one in that dorm dorm, no one in the street. It obviously looked like it was on some kind of college campus, so I I'm not really sure. I'm flipping through Wikipedia to see if they say

where it was or at least giving me a filming location. We forgot to bring up Jeffrey Lewis. Los Angeles. Okay. He was Warren Stacy's a lawyer. Because he was the one that actually

when before they did his last trial he was the one telling him like look man he goes you're gonna he goes you want to go into this courtroom and just tell him this is a crooked lawyer he was because you need to tell him like you're hearing voices in your head you're you're crazy

and it makes you do things and he goes what you want me to say I'm a schizo he goes I'm not a schizo and he goes look man he goes you'll walk out of prison alive he goes he goes they're going to pull you out of the gas chamber dead. So you got to make up your mind. You want to say you're crazy and they'll let you go or what?

So that's when at the end of the film, I'm sick. You can't hurt me because I'm sick. All those girls, you sick son of a bitch. I am sick. I am sick. I didn't know what I was doing.

It's like something. was happening and I couldn't control myself. Why else would I kill girls I don't even know? It's like I'm two different people. I hear voices telling me what to do. Once it begins, I can't stop. Punish me. I'm sick.

You can't punish me for being sick. All you can do is lock me up, but not forever. One day I'll get out. One day they'll get out. That's the law. That's the law. That's the law! and I'll be back.

I'll hear from me. You're in the whole fucking world. All this. I mean, I really liked how it ends. It was like, after he shot him, blasted and blew his brains out, movie was over. The camera pulls back. The crater starts rolling.

He was not huffing and puffing. So he, out of those two, that Stacy was young, Laurie is young, Bronson is old. He should have been huffing, and puff it.

Well, I guess all that adrenaline get you gone. Oh. Well, the budget for this was what, 400,000 or something like that, and then it boxed off of 700,000. In some change. Released on March 11th of 83.

This is one of the great Canon films of the 80s, so you got to love it. I mean, these films, these crime films and all this i mean they were quick and to the point so that's probably why uh they made so many uh as then as well as their action films here they're in wikipedia they're listed it as a crime horror thriller just because there's dead bloody people doesn't make it a horror movie this is just a crime uh thriller i would yeah i think because of

the whole slasher aspect of it yeah i mean he was killing uh women and all that, but he didn't like rape anyone. This would be a good double feature. What was that one we did for 31 days with Michael Ironside? That they had to do in the hospital. Oh, visiting hours. Yeah, because both movies kind of let you know who the killer is right away. Yeah, even that one, that wasn't, I mean, they sold it to everyone as a horror film.

But, uh, hey, fuck, man, that Blu-ray never came. Remember I Yeah What the fuck? I have to check my emails Because I ordered it Because it was visiting hours And there was another

It was like a double featured movie I kind of like bad dreams or something I don't remember whatever the other movie was But shit I totally forgot about all that God damn it I was ordering so much during the holidays To get presents here

And I just fucking slip my mind I'm gonna do some research But This is definitely a classic man I love this film. I've seen it multiple times. If you listen to our East Society's 31 Days of Horrors, we were always talking about the poster art for these films.

And if you're looking at the poster for this film, it's amazing artwork. I don't know who the artist is that drew it, but top billing Charles Bronson, a cop, a killer, a deadline. You see him standing at Bronson standing there. with a gun 10 to midnight. You see Warren Stacey, like in front of a clock face holding his knife and his other hand up to 12.

And the knife with the hand with his knife is at the 50 mark. We see McCann running with his daughter, Lori, with Leo's daughter. She's in full nurse gear. That didn't happen. Yeah, I mean, I think I I mean, looking at this now, not ever really thinking about the poster, but Because we see Detective McCann running with Lori

I think that would have been cool to have him at the end and then Charles Bronson show up and save the day. Maybe he got into a scuffle with Stacey and got stabbed or hurt or something And they're both trying to run for the lives and everything. Yeah, he just basically after I think it was after after the court case that was like the last we saw him yeah because we didn't really talk about

how it seemed like him and uh Charles Bronson's daughter was going to have some sort of relationship and then he just I guess told her I've been busy that's why I haven't called you and that was kind of it she was mad at him

because when she was all drunk when that when she was hanging out with her dad she was basically like screw that guy man he did you dirty and sold you out, but this is drunk talk. So, yeah, I think the last scene he was in is when they were in the court, when they were outside of the court when he got Leo to confess that he planted the blood on Warren's clothes.

So, but I think that was it. But yeah, but I think it would have been cool if he showed up at the end and I got it. Maybe even gotten killed by Warren before Charles blew his brains out. Yeah, maybe there's a different cut of this movie. Speaking of different cuts, the, when this was on TV, the TV version, I mean, of course they're going to cut the nudity and everything. It was weird.

But at the end of this film, when the camera pulls back, you see Warren standing there butt naked. And the one that was on TV, he's standing there in black underwear. And I think there was some other time. I mean, I think that was it. They never really showed black underwear when he was running around naked. Oh, no, they did at the beginning because when he was chasing that girl in the woods, they see her running down a hill. He comes up to the top of the hill and he's standing there and you see him full back view.

Then in that scene as well, he had the black underwear on. I think. In these days, I'm not sure if they do it now anymore, but they had to. shoot extra scenes so they could put this on TV because if you guys know your your Halloween history they had to do that they had to shoot when they put John Carpenter's Halloween on TV they shot some extra scenes because they knew they're going to have to cut scenes so they can put it on TV so I assume maybe they just shot those extra scenes with this with black underwear on so they could put it on TV

because I remember the first time we saw it on TV like oh it's coming on let's watch it And we were like, hey, he's wearing underwear. So, but on the extras, the Blu-ray extras, when, when, um, McCand, uh, what's his name? Something. Stevens, uh, Andrew Stevens, that they're talking to him. That was when he was saying, because, yeah, he was really cool about just standing around naked and didn't have no problems shooting those scenes being naked. they show a still photo of still photo of him standing there in black underwear so i assume that's probably why they had to shoot those scenes so they could put it on tv but um i've seen this

movie just a jillion times and i love it on every physical media vhs DVD and blu-ray of course i'm going to buy the shout factory i know someone's pricing you don't need i i'm a collector i love charles bronson i love this film so i got to have it So, but when I bought this Twilight Time when I, Twilight Time is weird. They only put out like so many. And then once they're gone, they're gone. So,

but when this came out, I jumped right on it before. Because I don't think you can buy this on Twilight Time anymore. I don't think. I could be wrong. Usually you can't when it comes to them. So, but this,

I'm definitely going to get the Shout Factory one. But this, out of the many, many movies of Charles Bronson, I mean, this is, like I said, this is probably,

second favorite one after death wish. Assassination was the movie. Shit, I see a poster for it now. When Charles Bronson was protecting the First Lady. The movie's goofy and yes, I think it's canon as well that put

this one out, but he was dropping movies and once the 80s hit, he was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, putting him out all the way into the 90s because before 10 to midnight, he had death hunt, which was awesome. film, Death Wish 2 right before this one.

And then the movie after this one, the evil that men do. It's a real slow one, but it's really good if you guys haven't seen that one. And then after that, he did Death Wish 3. That one was just totally crazy and stupid, but I love it still. I mean, if you have, if you guys are familiar with the Death Wish films, the first one was just a crime drama. And it was a masterpiece. Death Wish 2 was more of He was they were just going to base it on just we just want to see him kill be the vigilante that he was

When Death Wish 3 comes around that's when Canon just got goofy and everything It was I could still watch it and enjoy it I own it but it's just it's not a good movie at all And the one after that Death Wish 4 the crackdown that was like 87 that one was no good I haven't seen the fifth one Death was five, the face of death. That one came out in 94. After the crackdown, I was like, I don't know if I can watch that one. I'm sure it's probably on YouTube

somewhere. He did one with, unless I'm thinking of the wrong. Yeah, I'm thinking of something totally different. But I thought there was one that was a Kinjitay, Forbidden Subjects. That one was pretty good. That one was like action, drama, crime type of film

going on within, like, from what I remember, it was, okay, this is what I'm reading. A brutal Los Angeles police lieutenant is determined to bust up an organization that forces underage girls into prostitution. Yeah, I knew I had to do something with kids.

But that one was, I mean, they don't show anything, but the subject matter when you think about it, it's, it's fucking. crazy but I remember that one being really good but yeah to pick a favorite Charles Bronson I think you said it but I don't remember

what would your favorite be it's the original death wish that that was my introduction my dad introduced me to Charles Bronson through Death Wish and the White Buffalo and after that I was watching the mechanic and all that kind of

stuff and so yeah death wish is probably my favorite I'm pretty sure he was Geronimo I'm trying to go through his filmography he's done a ton of movies his first film was in 49

well TV series he was probably just a side character but no what's his name was Geronimo Chuck Connors he was okay he did a movie called Apache that's probably why I'm thinking of Geronimo I assume he was a native guy

Because if you got Burn Lancaster Being a native An Apache Why not Charles Brunson? It says he played a character Name Hondo Yeah, but then those days everyone That's what they did

They couldn't they didn't have native actors So you just throw some paint On the main stars And have them talk like this and me and Wampum and the whole stereotypical bullshit Brunton man he's definitely a legend

I think his last film or last thing he shot was for TV and that was in 1999 he passed August 30th 2003 he was 81 and he passed away in Los Angeles he was from Aaronfield

Pennsylvania who was born in 21 but yeah Yeah, he's got a ton of films under his belt. The Great Escape, that was another one that was awesome. But yeah, my introduction to him was Death Wish. Thanks to my dad. My dad's introduced me to everything.

Mm-hmm. Lee Marvin, Lee Marvin, Steve McQueen, Paul, Lenny's Wood, Charles Bronson, everybody, all the tough guys. I never really got into John Wayne. My dad was all about John Wayne. Yeah. I got a little bit of John Wayne under my belt from my dad. All right, everyone, that's Charles Bronson's classic 10 to midnight.

All right, it's your pick now. Oh, fuck me. I just realized that when I said it. I had a film picked out, but I just totally forgot what it was. All right We're going to go Back to the early 80s. You have HBO Max, don't you?

Yes, sir All right, we're gonna go to A film that I was watching the other day I love this film It's like probably my second favorite Comic book film Came out in 1980 This is actually the second film

Which the first film came out And I think 79 I'm trying to get Theo to go do a whole retrospective of it, but we got so much on our plate over at the East Society. Oh, the first film came out in 78, but the film I want to do, again, it's my second favorite comic book movie of all time.

It was number one until I saw something else, and I'll get into that story when we get to it. But we're going back to 1980 to Richard Lester's, DC superhero film Superman 2 stars the great and the one and only Superman everyone else comes after him

and Christopher Reeve rest in peace I don't think I've ever covered this film at all on anything that we've done and I was watching it the other night and yeah I was like again thinking we've never ever talked about that's what I said I was trying to get

disease you let's let's do all of them but he didn't seem like he didn't want I don't know he'll do it but he's like so I don't know but we got stream themes now so definitely uh something um we're just going to pick all these shot all these streaming platforms but yeah we are going to the next one we're going to be covering uh richard lester's superman two he didn't realize it was over two hours all right All right, anything else? No, everyone just thank you for listening. We got action returns if you guys didn't listen to it yet,

but it's out there. The first two movies of the Karate Kid series, and we're getting to the fourth one soon. Your favorite one. Hillary, I love you, but man, we'll get into that when we get into it. But everyone, thank you so much for listening to Stream Fiends as well as the action returns here on the Horror Returns Network. When you're done listening to all this, shoot on over to my network, the Skater Podcast Network. East Society, we just dropped our 207th episode of East Society.

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that was from, but it's still listenable, but I'm just, I'm just warning you guys right now. It's only for one section and then it clears up. But four and a half hours, the longest East Society episode ever, and we will never do that again. sorry about that

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