The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #7: Superman II (1980)

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

This episdoe Brian and Nez team up with the Man of Steel to take on General ZOD in the 1980 Richard Lester film SUPERMAN II.   Listen and follow Brian and Nez's other show The Action Returns. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns

Son of Durel! Kneel before sod! Snoochee-Boochies! All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of THR Present Stream Fiends. I'm your host, Brian, and with me, as always, is the man that will never kneel before Zad. My brother, Ness. What's up, man?

Oh, man, I'm good. I'm not going to get out of this funk for a little bit. Hopefully I can get all the way out of it. I've been good, man. Just living, just living. Snowing outside. So hopefully it doesn't mess this recording up. Because where I live at in the sticks in California,

the wind can blow wrong or just barely blow and the power goes out and the internet goes crazy. And I never know during the winter. But as soon as I start recording people are, I texted me. Yeah, man, I'm good, man. Just ready to do this. Family good?

Yeah, everyone's good, man. We're getting by. We're doing what we have to do. Grandkids are good. My daughter's good. Sons, all that. Yeah, man. We're living, man.

Just trying to stay warm because it is freezing here. supposed to snow like all week and I don't know what that means as in how much snow but I don't know last few winters have been not very good so hopefully

get some kind of so we can fill up these lakes because they're starting to turn into ponds is it snowing up there there's always something snow you can have all of it every last bit of it yeah we're in a

drought like for I don't know the past 20 30 years but I don't know man we get a lot of rain but not enough to do anything because it's just the some of the lakes around here are starting to dry up and that's scary because when I first moved up here man they were like overflowing and hitting the highway but now they're just slowly going all the way down to nothing I don't know global warming we'll see hopefully something can be done Yeah, before we get into this movie, since this is a streaming podcast, your thoughts on the WWE network moving to the peacock? I didn't really know nothing about it until the Zisu told me.

I was like, wait, what? So are they doing the network and peacock, or is it just going straight to the peacock? I think it's kind of from what I understand I could be wrong. It's kind of like how you go to HBO Max and they got all the little hubs, you know, like Crunchyroll, DC.

I think it's going to be like that. So, I mean, cool because you can if somebody wanted to get the Peacock and just needed some kind of excuse to get it. I mean, you you pay half the price for

Wwee network and get that and the peacock so you get everything that's what I'm that's what I understand how much is it I didn't even look into uh I think it's 499 with ads in 999 without ads so you're getting ads during the pay reviews I don't know I think there's supposed to be more information coming out but I mean it's it sounds like a very lucrative deal for for wwe right because they're losing money because there's no live events or anything uh from what i read last year was one of their biggest uh money making years somehow even though they had to release a lot of wrestlers because of the covid

unless everyone's just buying up all their stuff then all right but I haven't bought anything from them in a long time. I was, they were getting all my money for Roman Rain shirts, but then the shirt started to get weak. So I stopped buying them. You don't want a head of the table shirt? No.

I do want an edge shirt, so I'll probably get one of those, but I don't know, man. Man, when seeing Puck was there that was getting all my money, a little bit of John Sina and then when the shield was going strong I had all that and then it just kind of

fell apart. I was hoping for what's her name? I damn it forgot the name. Oh, Charlotte. Put out kind of a cool shirt I don't like any of the designs they're doing for her so I never got any.

If I'm going to buy like Lita stuff, I'm going to get her her Amy Dumas stuff on pro wrestling teas. I like the thing she's got there. That's where I got my Candace shirt from Pro Wrestling T's men

because I don't like the one that they got over there. I'm surprised they're letting them sell over there still. I thought there was some kind of deal. If you're with us, you can't sell anything. Probably don't know about it yet. I guess.

I mean, she's to her store is still. there. I mean, I bought a shirt from her. That was before she was in WWE. So, I don't know. We'll see. But as far as the Peacock, I'm not paying for WWE Network anyway. So why ruin a good thing? A buddy in mine got it and he gave me his login. So I'm good.

But I do want to watch a lot of that stuff on Peacock. I never finished Saved by the Bell. almost did. I think I got like one or two episodes left. Yeah, I got to still finish it. Yeah. But from what that was, I enjoyed it. Yeah, it's a lot of nostalgia. Yeah.

You know, remembering the old show and I like the mixture of, because you still got that feel of the old show, but they're kind of mixing like today into it. Yeah. I just like that they, it's not just rich kids.

I mean, they bust, they bust in the kids from the hood. So I kind of like that. And that, see, that reminds me of how I went to school. They bust in all the kids from the lower flats of Oakland up into the hills to go to school because they needed their, uh, their quota of color or something. That's what we kept saying. I mean, seriously, dude. I mean, it was predominantly rich white kids up there. I mean, there was color in there, but, uh, they needed their quota of Native Americans and, uh, because there was none until uh to my brother got there and then i was after him and then everyone else uh that was behind me started going i think when i wasn't when he was in high school it was just him i think they

said they had more but they i don't know i didn't know who they were but when i got there it was me william sabah i think there was only four of us when i went to high school and then later as I was moving up people the other natives started coming in and it was all everyone down from the from the flatlands they bust us up to up to the hill for uh I mean that was the only reason that we got in because they were they just needed that splash of color I guess so but you uh you know running any guys named snake wearing gold chains and stuff uh fuck um not in the high school years and the little bit of the little bit of college I went to they were there.

Snake. This is an extra medium shirt. What did you, what did you keep saying? I know we were saying it to the whole show. You know it. Ah, fuck. I have to find that clip. Maybe he was Terry Silver's son, but

he didn't want to, he didn't want to admit to it. Yeah. He didn't want to admit to son was a fucking douchebag. You're going to be the bad boy. snakes the one to be bath with well all right everyone yeah you can hear more of that

when uh listen to uh the action returns if you want more of uh karate kid stuff but uh tonight uh we're getting back in the way back machine and we're going back to 1980 to the richard lester dc warner brothers classic uh superman two not the Richard Donner Cut, but we will be talking about that probably at the end. Superman 2. The Adventure continues. There is something evil in the skies headed from Metropolis. Three outlaws from the planet Krypton with the same powers as Superman. He has all this accumulated knowledge when will these dummies learn to use the Darnon.

Superman! Where are you? Now, the adventure continues. at the Eiffel Tower, on the moon, and the romance continues. This is the spectacular challenge. Superman? General, would you care to step outside? To a climactic super battle in the skies over Metropolis. If you've only seen the first part, you haven't seen the best part.

Superman 2. The adventure continues this June. This is the original cut, the theatrical cut, that it made it to the theaters, and this is a film that I just fucking love. I mean, I've seen this, the opening weekend, and I just couldn't get enough of Superman. But for you younger listeners, this is all we had back in the day. There was no, no, no nothing, no anything in the movies.

I mean, we got Superman. That was it. We didn't have no Spider-Man, Captain America. We had all that that was on TV in like the 70s, but it was my childhood as well, but it was goofy. I mean, but I was awesome to see Spider-Man on TV. Because up to this point, before Superman won, all we had was the black and white TV show that went to color eventually, Superman, which I loved. I think George Reeves was that guy. Then we had the great Adam West as Batman and Bert Ward as Robin.

That was it. We didn't need that pretty much as far as D.C. We had Greenhorn in and was Greenhorn at D.C.? Something else. Let me double check. I can't remember. Cato and all that. I think it was, I don't know.

I don't remember. But we had all that. But that was like way before I was born. I mean, Superman, the motion picture was, or I think it was the movie or whatever it was. I mean, that was what we had at the time, 78. And I was, oh my God, Superman. I thought that was cool. Didn't know that there was a Superman too coming.

I didn't actually find out there was a Superman too coming until Superman hit Showtime. Because at the very, very end of the credits, it said, coming soon or whatever. a Superman 2 and I happened to just finish watching Superman and I guess I was playing around and just letting the credits run and I glanced up at the screen and went well Superman 2 and

no internet no nothing so all I was doing was waiting I knew it was coming and I just waited and waited and then it finally came and I was all about this film but before we read into anything else when did you first see this one I saw this as a kid loved it

this is by far out of the the Christopher Reeve Superman movies the best one because I just think because Zad and his crew coming in and I've seen just I don't know how many

times that end seen the fight in the city I don't know how many times I've seen it love it because I mean it is it is goofy at times like you know we'll get it we'll get into it like you know why is there a guy with the sequence best on in on roller skates why is he there i don't know why but it was funny and new york a lot a lot of product

placement in this movie a lot yeah there was um yeah loved it uh i do like uh henry cavill cavill however you say his name i do like him a superman but nostalgia wise um I do Lane Tours, Christopher Reed, because that's what I grew up with. And, yeah, younger listeners, you guys are definitely spoiled because we didn't have our comic book character. Well, the few movies we had, they didn't mix. You wouldn't see Batman and Superman on the big screen. You know, we had to wait years and years for that.

So you guys are definitely spoiled in that way. I mean, we didn't get it until all this whole new wave of DC films. I mean, because we got Batman in 89 and then the ones that came after that in the 90s, but still there was no crossover superhero characters into that. Or no even mentioning of Metropolis or Superman or anything like that. Yeah, they did later, but I mean, this is, I mean, they owned all. Oh, excuse me. Warner Brothers owned all the properties, but I don't know why they never put them together. Because as a little kid, we wanted a Super Friends, or Justice League is what they're calling it.

Back when we were little, we had the Super Friends, and that was the Justice League of America. That's what we wanted on the big screen, and we never got it. And we finally got it when we were much older. I know a lot of people hated it, and we have the Snyder cut coming. When is that coming? Is it later on? Okay, we got that. Well, pretty soon it's coming.

And they, he officially said it's not a four-part series. It is a four-hour movie. I'm with that. Yeah. Because that's what I was, when we were talking about it when we first heard about it, I was kind of like, I might wait until it's all done.

Then I can just watch it as one big movie. But, um, I'm for it. I'll check it out. I mean, I liked. What was there? This last one, but I know the little things I see that they're changing in it. I mean, I want to know

How much of they're keeping in and what how much is dark side going to be in this Because it was mainly, what's his name as a bad guy? I'll step in wall. Yeah, so I don't know. We'll see How it goes, but I mean in 1980 when this one came out, yes it's goofy the effects was what they were I mean they actually filmed this

simultaneously with Superman the first one because they were saying it was it was kind of hard to do it because when they were shooting scenes in like the daily planet or even at the fortress of solitude I said okay we're filming this for Superman and all right cut change your costumes

now we're filming this for Superman too. And they said it was hard to keep track of that. So I was like, well, at first I thought they just, I know they filmed it as one big movie and then just cut it in half. I didn't know they were filming scenes like that. But I mean, now me thinking about it, I actually just found out this information today. Right before we were recording us,

I was watching something on YouTube. And they were talking to Richard Donner. and he he got he made it seem like he didn't like what he shot and I get when this version came out the theatrical version the Richard

Lester version he didn't like it at all he said I don't know there's something happened between him and the and Warner Brothers to where he was like you know what I can't finish this I mean he shot everything but then they basically scrapped all of his stuff

and then they just put out shot some more new scenes and then put out the movie and that's what we got. Do you count this as a Richard Lester? Because I'm reading here like Richard Donner had filmed he had finished like

75% of the movie. Yeah they were saying it's pretty much a Richard Donner film. That's why he's like he wasn't on board for this one. He said I he goes I get whatever happened with him in the studio I don't know exactly if it was a money deal or what but he was like I go that I he was I seen it but I just I couldn't get into it he goes

he did get paid because they shot showed a lot of his scenes he was like I just didn't like how they ended the film because they totally changed his his ending and they pulled out a lot I mean then when they when they brought it back and they put it I guess there was a lot of bad blood with him in the studio for a bit I mean he did other films for them But I think the Superman thing was a was a source subject but when they brought him hey man They're gonna let us do a director's cut of your film So he was all right cool so he talked to them and they came up with the deal and he was all on board So they went and got all the old footage that they shot and then they were gonna

add it all back in. Some of it, if you're watching it, some of it is the, the CGI that they added looks like shit. To me, that took me out of it. I liked the scenes they had in it, but I don't know.

I only seen the Donner cut a couple times and I was just like, ah, really? But I don't know. I think the, the crappy special effects they added to it just didn't keep. my attention. It was kind of outside. I mean, I knew what was new and what was it, because I had seen the theatrical

cut like a million times as his little kid, and I still watch it today. I was hoping they were going to put both versions on HBO Max, but they just put the regular one on there. So, but this movie is, it's just got so much nostalgia for me as well as reminding me is sitting in the theater. My mom's friend took my brother and I to see this along with his son and I just remember being blown away What this film was, but I mean, and again a lot of people watch it now and they just laugh at it and everything But I always say this you've got to think of the time when this came out and What the what special effects was. I mean, it was all handmade stuff no No no standing in front of a green screen or blue screen or whatever and then adding all this awesome

cg i mean if you want that watch the newer superman films or even smallville i don't know they they got better as the seasons went on i'm not a fan of that that first few seasons the cg i was terrible uh i love that show i got all ten seasons on dvd oh man but superman two uh came out june 19 1991 Why is it a 91 hearing this? It's 80 at the top. But, all right. Again, directed by

Richard Lester. The budget was 54 million in a boxed office. $190.94 million. I don't know how much I added to that, but I had seen it many times in the theater and the drive-in.

All right. Superman foils the plot of terrorists by hurling their nuclear device into outer space but the bomb shockwaves free the Kryptonian villain General Zod and his henchman

Ursa and Nahn from their imprisonment traveling to Earth they threaten the planet with destruction at the same time that Superman decides to renounce the superpowers in order to live a normal life as Clark Kent with his new love Lois Lane All right, that's pretty much the whole movie

right there Let me go over to IMDB probably just a sentence slow internet everyone what does it say here IMDB all right Superman agrees to sacrifice his powers

to start a relationship with Lois Lane unaware that three Kryptonian criminals he inadvertently released are conquering Earth eh okay but this stars the great Gene Hackman he returns as Lex Luther

the great and to me is the only Superman. The great Christopher Reeve, rest in peace. The great Ned Beatty is back for just like a second as Otis. Jackie Cooper, Perry White, Margot Kidder as well, rest in peace. Back as Lois Lane. And then we got Terrence Stamp as General Zod, Sarah Douglas as Ursa, and Jack O'Hollarin as Non.

and then a bunch of the people that are in this. Even, what's his name as the president? E.G. Marshall. You guys remember him in Creep Show? The last, the first movie, the last one story that are creeping up on you. That dude. But, yeah, there's a ton of other people in this. There's some guys that were, that's in the third film, jumping ahead.

But, yeah, I mean, all the people that were in the first one, like we're the Daily Planet. Oh, and what's his name? As Jimmy Olson, Mark McClure, he's back also. But, yeah, Superman 2, man. Anything else before we dive into this? Let's get into it. All right, Superman 2.

We probably won't do the play-by-play like we always do. But this one basically starts how the first film, started minus marlin brando when we have uh general zod and his crew being judged by i guess all the higher ups of krypton basically reading them their rights and telling charging them with their crimes and then putting them imprisoning them in the phantom zone uh i thought that was pretty sweet i was always fascinated with that because i remember when the when you see the phantom zone coming i was like it just like a piece of glass and this is me as a little kid It's, the effects don't hold up like modern day movies, but I would rather go with this version than the Manisteele version, where they look like they fly away in Dix.

Because I don't know if you ever notice like the pods they fly away in. Yeah, I didn't like that. I mean, there, a quick little shout out to Smallville. Clark got trapped in one of the phantom zones and it was like this

a piece of glass it wasn't the dicks from Snyder's vision they had balls on them too it was weird yeah I mean

Manus Steel I was hyped going in for that movie because I just love Superman and I left the theater like let disappointed and let down now I was calling.

I still like it. I wish they would have gave us more Clark than Superman, or kind of balanced it out. I didn't like the bearded Clark when he was a fisherman or whatever that was. He was just trying to find his way. How did he shave it all off? He can't use a razor. There's a heat vision. I don't know.

They need to show me that. Maybe I like it more. but yeah so they get trapped in the phantom zone and they get hurtled off in the space and then the movie starts i love how it starts they basically give you a whole uh like a what do you call that um when they show stuff previously on whatever the you guys know what i'm talking about i can't think of the word right now recap they basically give you a recap of the first film while the credits are rolling and i loved all that The first movie is just amazing.

Really quick, as a little kid seeing that in the theater, opening weekend, but sitting in the front row, kind of off to the side. So other than you're looking straight up, I'm looking to my left and the whole movie. And that's two hours right there. My mom and dad left with sore necks. I didn't. I was much of a little kid, but I fucking remember every minute of that movie. But anyway, we got better seats when we saw this one.

So, yeah, we get the recap. which I loved because I remember my friend when we went and seen it he'd never seen the first one so he was like oh is this all the stuff that happened is it yeah and all right cool so now he was caught up but then he went back and saw the first one so we go back to we go to the daily planet and we see Clark Kent and all that and Lois Lane and they why I didn't understand why they I mean that they got an assignment to go to Niagara Falls oh you are you skipping the the Paris scene or was that the Dona. Oh, okay. I don't know. That's right. No.

Because I have a question. How did she get to Paris so fast? She said. Perry White said he threw her on the first Concord out of there. Oh, it's fast. I know. I mean, luckily there was with Paris. Yeah. Luckily, there was one there. Yeah, I fucking totally skipped that scene. I guess we would that one. Yeah, because Clark got to work, and then he was talking to Perry White, and then he told him there was some kind of some terrorist. that took over the Eiffel Tower, and then Perry White was like, yeah, I sent my best reporter there, and it was Lois, and said I put her on the first Concord over there. And I'm like, luckily there was a flight that was leaving when they needed it.

And I don't know how fast those Concords fly, but she made it there in time to get there before anything happened. kind of felt like everything just started when she got there. Yeah, so. And the terrorist had a hydrogen bomb, and they had it in the elevator and Eiffel Tower. I don't know how much blast that said, but it made it seem like it could blow a pretty big hole in Paris, France. And they didn't really go into what they were asking for. I mean, it would just seem like these guys just had a bomb. All right, we're going to blow it up.

There's no way you could get away from that situation either. I mean, you've got to come down. And then the cops are going to be waiting for you. I don't know. Yeah, and there was no talk of ransom or anything. You just like when you see the terrorists, they're, I guess, sending the hostages down. that's it.

Yeah, I was like, I don't know why they didn't start bringing in helicopters and shooting them, but I don't know. It's a movie. So, Lois, she's already there on the scene

and then she's just kind of taking notes on what's going on. She finds out it's a hydrogen bomb, and you know Loa, she's got to get her story. So the security is super laxed here. So she got right past the Paris police

Didn't speak English And she I guess luckily there was a staircase right there That happened to lead right to the main staircase That went away at the top of the Eiffel Tower I want to know was it When she was on the stairs or not Was that really the Eiffel Tower?

I don't know I mean I could clearly it probably wasn't when she got on the elevator But She gets up there And then climbs to the bottom of the the elevator and then it she's I don't know what she thinks she was a guy I want to know what she would get what was her plan once she got up there so but I mean you know Lois she's uh quick to the quick on her heels to to try to get her story's the story's not that important

not to climb and hang underneath the elevator that has a hydrogen bomb on it yeah I mean first of all I wouldn't do that there's a bomb there I'm I'm I'm leaving in Paris. I believe she was the one that said a hydrogen bomb would blow a hole in Paris. Yeah, so luckily she knew all that science. And they didn't seem to care. I mean, other than all the police that were there, nobody was keeping anybody back. I mean, if there's a bomb there and it can blow up at any second, why is everybody at the

bottom? I mean, they should at least be cleared back. I don't know I'll move you from So I don't know about you Man

But I'm Fucking scared of heights There'd be no way I would climb under that elevator And then And go up I don't know how high The Eiffel Tower is

But Nah Not too high I've been up to the top Of Empire State Building Not fucking scared The shit out of me Even the Sears Tower

In Chicago And that's No I'm good I only did it Because hey, I'm there in New York, so why not? I could say I did it. Twice.

So she's there. When Perry tells Clark that she's there, he immediately jumps into Superman mode and I was laughing. I don't know how high up the daily planet is, but he rode the elevator all the way down

to the bottom and then ran. Luckily there's an alley. All right. I've been to the Daily Planet. I don't know what the actual building is. I've been to it in New York. There's no alley where he ran down. So I don't know.

Well, maybe there was in 80 when they filmed this or 79 when they filmed it. Oh, man. And I always loved how he transformed. I like more when he just opens his shirt. This one, it was a lot of just, I guess, super speed. And then he just flies into the air. A lot of people didn't like the Superman suit in Who's a Brian Singer one?

Superman Returns? Because that one's supposedly a direct sequel to this film. It was fine. Because in this one, he's got the, it's not an ass. I can't remember what they call it. It's whatever Jarrell's house symbol of the house of the house of the other. Yeah. Whatever his symbol is.

I think they only call him Superman because it looks like an S. But anyway, it's on the back of his cape. In all these other movies that came later, they're not. It's not. So he's super speed all the way to France. And I was, I mean, yeah, he's faster than the speeding bullet, but I was like, why are you flying so low to the ground? Why didn't you just fly into space and shoo?

you just spun the earth in the opposite direction in the last film. Why is it? Why are you just taking your time? I'm flying over there. But while he's on his way over there, Lois is still getting into mischief. The Paris police decide to blow the brakes on the elevator, because they know the bomb was in the elevator.

So as soon as they got the... Here's another little nitpick. There's a guy at the bottom on the ground, a cop. He's got those big giant super binoculars. All right, you're looking up at it. How the hell are you going to see those guys that they're in the elevator? It's in the elevator, but that movie. This is all shit I was noticing on this last watch.

So, I'd be different if he was standing on maybe on the top of a building. But even then, I mean, that's pretty far from there. French police are not represented well in this movie. Yeah, I have it. A movie, everyone. So they realize that it's in there. Then they blow up, they blow the brakes on the elevator,

and then it starts to fall down, while Lois is still hanging on in the bottom. And I would have fucking passed out and died. I mean, even riding those roller coasters, are those drop rides. No, I can't do those, man. It's just, I don't like falling like that. But luckily Superman got there in time.

I love the effects. It does look choosy when we see him flying, but I think that was a model of Eiffel Tower when you see him flying straight into it. He flies in. And as fast as that thing was coming down, that's what always made me laugh with these Superman films. is like he doesn't, I guess, if you put it, do me really do it.

If you're going to slow something down, you've got to go fall down with it for a little bit. It seems like he just flies right up, grabs it, stops. And coming down that fast, especially Lois, with no super strain, that he grabbed it that quick, she had to fold it and fell out of it. But luckily he got there and saved her. She was all happy. I believe this is your floor She jumps she got so it climbs off and then he He flies through all the way through the Eiffel Tower out the top with the elevator and flies into space and that thing

The elevator flies off and then blows up And it went when the hydrogen bomb blows up it sends off all these shock waves in space kind of pushes Superman back as well So luckily the Phantom Zone with Zadn the gang was going by and it hit those shockwaves and it turned into from that to animation I still love this effect I know it looks super cheesy but I mean I enjoy it I mean I think it's awesome because it goes crashing through that and then push it blows up and they go flying out all right nitpick time when the Kryptonians were on Krypton they didn't have have these superpowers.

They got their powers with their, whatever their DNA combined with the Earth's Yellow Sun. That's the reason they got superpowers. So I want to know, how do they know how to fly and everything right out the gate? They seem to know how to do a lot of things right out the gate,

especially when they land on Earth. Yeah, I was kind of, I know from my knowledge from the books, I know, or even the later films, Superman didn't know how to fly, even in the Smallville. He didn't actually fly until the last episode. Well, wait a minute. He did fly once, but he didn't know it. But anyway, that's Smallville.

But he had to learn how to do it all because, yes, he was strong and everything when he was a little kid. But he gradually figured out his powers and everything. And they just, as soon as they got out of the phantism, they went flying away. Like they knew what was happening. I was like, okay. But I didn't make the film. And so they end up flying to the moon. I love this scene.

And I love these effects. And it makes me laugh because there's more nitpicks in it. They get there. I mean, other than there's no ground. gravity or anything on the moon. They're just strutting along like it's nothing. And then they end up coming across some astronauts, some Russian. I think there was two Russian ones and an American, I think.

I can't remember. Because one of them was speaking Russian. And then General Zod kind of deals with him and kicks him off in the space. Ursa meets up one and she wants to know, what kind of creature are you? And he says, I'm a man. He was just a man. And then he gets scared because she tries to reach for him. And then he starts trying to run, but you can't run in space because he's hopping along.

And she just gets up and flies over. But I mean, shout out to the special effects guys in this one. You know they're on the strings and everything. I mean, you couldn't see it. In this, in this film, in Superman 3, you can see all the strings. on Superman. That took me out of that movie. But I do love Superman 3.

So she grabs one of his little patches. I don't know why she was fascinated with patches and badges and everything. But she tears one off and then he inflates into his suit or whatever. Then she kicks him in the balls and he goes flying into space. And then Non comes in and then they start destroying the little landing capsule, that landed on the moon. Before that, the guy in there was Rady in Houston trying to tell them

what's going on, but then he ends up getting killed. And then their... Zod is telling them that they're... They don't know why they had these powers, but then Zod's kind of the one that figures out that the sun is what's giving us the powers. So I thought that was cool. As a little kid, I thought all the Kryptonians,

when they were on Krypton, had these powers, but they were just normal people like you and I. So I thought that was really cool. So they end up flying to Earth to Planet Houston is what they thought it was called. Houston. Terrence Stam, I can only see him as General Zod. He's done tons and tons of things. But this was the first film that I had seen him in.

He did luck out and he was in the Phantom Menace. I thought that was cool. but Chancellor Valorum, I believe he was naming that. But they get there. I mean, Superman is still him and Lois. I mean, they really don't do much when they get back from Paris. Oh, really quick, because it pops up later towards the end. Lois is about to go into the Daily Planet.

Clark is across the street. He's like, Lois, Lois, and he tries running across the street, and this cab runs into him. And all right. It was funny, and I enjoy this scene, but when that cab hits the Clark, man, put that big-ass dent in the front. I mean, no way that car would run. Other than the radiator and everything, and I'm sure broke the engine block, but I don't know. And no one seemed to, like, oh, my God, I mean, or anything.

Yeah, I think the cab driver, all he just says is I think he calls Clark a freak. There's something a weirdo or something like that. Yeah, because he gets out, just looks at the front and then looks at Clark scratching his head, and then Clark goes into work. They, yeah, they go to work, and then, I mean, at this point, nothing's going on. It goes back and forth to the General Zod and those guys, but before we get to Zod, they end up going to Perry sends them to Niagara Falls to, they mentioned

why they're supposed to be there but I don't know something there to expose some kind of honeymoon scam or something yeah so I was kind of like

that's all you can think up think up for this part of the story I mean yeah because you just sent her to get a new story on terrorists at the Eiffel Tower and now you're sending her to Niagara Falls for

marriage schemes or whatever the hell's hustles going on? I guess that's how it works the daily planet. We'll give you a go get the story that can kill you and then we'll get you another one where nothing can happen you.

Okay, whatever. I mean, they get there and it's the whole sloppy love room, heart shape, bed and all that shit. I know some people do like that, but I mean, even now, I'm like, no way. I would go into something like that,

much less how much they have to pay to go there. But I don't know. I'd like to go to Niagara Falls, though. I mean, just to see it, to say I've seen it. So while they're there, they're just doing what they're doing. And this part, it bugged me when I first seen it, and then it bugs me now or every other time. Again, I've never been there, so I don't know.

how to prevent people from falling. I mean, I know they said there's people that have committed suicide jumping over the falls, but that little small, little retaining wall and that little bar on the top is all you're going to get to keep you safe. And stupid little kid... Oh, this fucking kid. Other than any normal person would stop this kid, even if it's not. your kid or much less say something to him this little kid climbs over to the other side and there's like one one hand in it back and forth twice yeah trying to be tricky and I know

Clark sees him and goes over there and tries to stop him and then the mom gets him and then there we get that ridiculous scene with the with the glasses yeah um Clark's glasses start to fog up and then Lois takes him here let me wipe them off and he's like no no no then she takes them off and starts wiping him and then she looks up at him and then she's like oh my god wait a minute

all right I know it's a part of the story and that's his secret identity how you got to do is put some glasses on but I mean even as a little kid watching the old black and white show and looking at the comics

I'm like why the hell doesn't anyone know he's Superman I mean there was never any kind of good answer for that even in these new versions of Superman I mean Clark just puts the glasses on and everything's all good

it's not like he's got a mask on or anything I can understand Bruce Wayne he can hide who he is because he's wearing a mask but I guess you can hide I guess everyone in this DC universe is stupid oh this scene

because she's just like wait a second you look like Superman and he's like trying to look away and hide his face and those gosh the glasses really cover that much up I guess I mean just like let's do something to people's brains to make him stupid while those glasses are on there must be super glasses so they uh oh then she uh she gets hungry and go get me a hot dog and some orange juice freshly squeezed. So Clark goes off to do that. Lois is taking pictures. And then that stupid kid again is doing the dumb thing with the rail. But this time he falls.

And Lois is the only one watching and sees that kid. So she runs over and starts screaming, help. I think once you fall over that thing, screaming help isn't going to help. Because I don't know how far that drop is from the top of. the falls to the bottom, but I don't know. Everything would be good to say that that kid's dead, but

Superman was there, so he saves the day. Clark sees him and then runs around the hot dog stand and then flies down there hell of fast and catches the kid. It does look cheap and cheesy because, well, at least they

threw a real dummy kid doll off. They do show the kid looking off fake and phony falling, but there's a top shot where you see the kid falling, and you can clearly see it's a dummy they just threw over the falls and filmed

it. But Superman flies down there and saves that kid and brings them down. I love how his mom's like, thank you, and then commences to beating his ass as she's done walking away. He should have got done like that little girl in the first movie.

Because when she says the Superman got the cat out of the tree and you don't see anything but you just hear stop lying

and then like smack yeah I heard of first time I saw I was laughing it hard so

Lois is starting to put two and two together because he's like he comes walking back Clark comes back with the hot dogs and she's like

where were you and I was getting you hot dogs and she goes well Superman was just here and he was like what?

starts looking up in the air. Oh, golly. Really? I mean, I love Clark and everything, but I guess to be goofy and putting those glasses on, we'll fool everyone. But you're not fooling Lois Lane. So she was

slowly starting putting two to two together and then she, they're walking along still. They're walking along a river and I think I jumped ahead, but I'll get to that in a minute. Anyway, so they're walking along, and then she's, like, still trying to say,

every time Superman's around, you're nowhere to be seen. And he's like, what are you talking about, Lois, and just trying to say, no, he's not. And she goes, I'm, she goes, he's like, well, I'm going to go back to the room or whatever. And she goes, what's your hurry, Superman? And he stops and goes, uh, what, excuse me? And she goes, I'm pretty, I'm so sure you're Superman. And I, this is how I'm going to prove it. And then she jumps into the, to the river. There's a lot of poor decisions in this movie. So, I mean, that river is raging. I mean, and you hit those rocks, that's it.

So, but shout out to the stunt woman or stuntman, whoever was in there, splashing around going down the rapids of the river. I assume Clark just figured, oh, there was really no danger, so let me just run along and act and not become Superman to try to save her. And I have another thing, right? Another nitpick. This is a huge tourist attraction.

Would you think that walkway would have tons of people walking along it, but no one's around? Not at this time. So, and this was something, too, that made me laugh. While he's running along screaming for Lois, he uses his supervision to, or his laser vision to cut a tree branch

to fall into the water and so she can grab it and well okay cool like she can at least stay above the water floating on it but so I guess she kind of gets to a part where it slows down so she's able to swim to the side and then Clark goes in to

help her and then he falls into the water to be goofy and she goes, oh you who I thought was Superman I must look like an idiot or something So they're all both soaking wet All right I think I skipped a head apart At the end of the first film

Lex Luthor was captured by Superman And brought to justice, took him to prison So he's in prison I don't know where But um So he's there And him and Otis is with him His sidekick from the first film

Ned Beatty And they're trying to figure out, or he's got a plan on how they're going to escape from prison. So he made, he's got this little black box where I have no idea where he got it from. But it was reading, I don't know, some kind of radio waves. To figure out, I guess, to track Superman. And they were saying that he kept, he kept going north. So Lex Luthor figured

well, there's something up there that he keeps going to, so let me, I guess, escape, and then we're going to go up there. So, in order for them to, did see, I watch a lot of those prison shows, so I guess you can get

things, but I don't know about this technology that he had. I think they were alluding that he made this stuff. So I don't, still I don't know where he gets this material from yeah I mean you can make things

in prison but this is all my knowledge of prison is just stuff from documentaries and movies and everything but I don't know if you can get that kind of technology to make that little black box much less that hologram camera

he's ahead of his time well yeah he was he was the evil mastermind of the world or something, but he made that. So when it came to the lights out, he was saying, lights out, Luther, and he wouldn't turn the lights off, because he look into it, and you see Luther

and Otis playing chess or checkers, whatever. And so the guard goes in, and then he stands in front of the camera, and then they disappear, and then he kind of gets startled, and he stepped back, and then they reappear. And that's when he looks up and sees that, there and then we go outside here I don't know how they got out of a cell but all

right so Otis and Luther I love them because it's always some kind of comedy duo with them they're kind of walk along the wall and then they get to the spot and then he goes all right hey he tells Otis go out there and and find it and like what he goes you'll know when you see it he goes out there and there's a ladder one of those rope ladders type things and then he'll be grabs it and looks up and it's Miss Test Mocker from the first film. She's coming in on a hot air balloon. And I know those guards were watching TV or something and not really paying attention,

but I think that'd be kind of hard to miss a huge hot air balloon. As we established earlier, the law enforcement, I guess everywhere in this movie is very lax. So they go out there and Lex climbs up. He gets in. Now it's time for Otis. I love this part too. Otis is so awesome. I wish they would went back and got him out to do more in the film.

But when Otis starts to climb up the ladder, he's his little chubby guy. When he steps on each of those little bars, it's just lowering the hot air balloon. So they're like, get off, get off. they basically do Otis dirty and just cut the the ladder and then they go floating off and notice fucking the guards come and get him and that's the last we see him so we go back to uh go back to Niagara Falls I know they kind of go back and forth with Zod because when they when they fly to earth um they just land it uh next to a I think it was some kind of lake because the old man fishing.

Nan and Ursa land on land and Zod lands in the water and he's kind of like this surface is weird or whatever and then he kind of floats up and he's walking on water and then they're walking along and Ursa sees a snake

and a rattlesnake she picks it up and it bites her and then she throws it on the ground and then burns him fries that snake with her heat vision and then she's startled as well because she's like, did you see that? Did you see

what I just did? And then they're just like we got these powers that are unbelievable and that's when Zod tells them because we all have them. And that's when he is what said he figured it out because of the sun. So we go back to Niagara Falls

Lois and is still convinced that Clark might be Superman or not really so Clark was just trying to get his this whole time. Even in the first film he was trying. This one he was really trying.

They're alone. They're in this nice romantic room. So let me throw my Mac down, but it never works. She tells them to, hey, can you get my brush over there? So he can brush my hair? So he gets it and he stumbles on this pink polar bear rug over the head. And then he falls into the fire. All right.

Nitpick. I fell into things like that, like really quick, and you'll be all right. Yeah, you'll feel the heat, but you won't, like, burn yourself on anything. He was only, his hand fell in there for, like, a second, and then he pulls it out, and she's like, let me see, let me see. He's like, oh, I'm all right, I'm all right. I mean, anybody, even us, we're not men of steel, but I don't think our hand would have burn that, get bird that quick

in that fire. So she sees his hand and she goes, you are Superman and he's like, oh, Lois, no, what are you talking about? And then he's like, oh, fuck it. And he takes his glasses off. Well, now you know my secret. I think you should know it all.

All right. Richard Donner cut time. Okay. In this scene, this was, I think this was one of the ones that they reshot because in the Richard daughter cut, they're getting ready to go to some kind of dinner or whatever.

And she's trying, she's still convinced that he's Superman. She pulls out a gun. Where does she get a gun from? I don't know. She pulls out a little snub-nosed gun and pointing it at Clark. And he's like, Lois, what are you doing? She goes, she goes, I'm so sure you're Superman. You'll be all right.

And he's like, no, Lois. And she shoots him. And he kind of like falls back. And then he like takes his glasses off. And she's like, oh, yeah, well, you found me out. I don't know the exact dialogue, but you found me out. Then she was like, oh. And then he was, she was like, well, he goes, well, how did, what if I wasn't?

What if, what if I wasn't Superman? You would have just shot Clark Kent. And she goes, no, I wouldn't know him. And he's like, why not? He goes, because these are blanks. I mean, he should have known that anyway. Basically point blank and he didn't feel anything. But, uh, so his.

his covered was blown. That's how she found out that he was really Superman. I didn't like that version. If it was in, if it was in this, I probably just lived with it, but I kind of liked him being stupid and stumbling

over the rug and falling in and all that. But, all right, I guess the bullet one would have been more believable, but she was blank. Yeah, I kind of like it, but there's just no explanation of why you would have, you just happen

to have a gun with blanks. Yeah, and I'm sure they flew there. Well, you can check guns in your check luggage, you can't carry that thing on. But then again, it was different times way back then. Yeah, but why would you have blanks? I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, okay, if we're going to nitpick this scene, well, uh, in, and the, Richard Donnercut,

she was putting piece in it together that Clark could be Superman when they were at the Daily Planet before they went to Niagara Falls. Because Superman was talking, or Clark was talking to Jimmy, and he's standing there with his arms crossed, and there's a picture of Superman

on the front page of the Daily Planet. She's looking at Clark. She's looking at Superman. She pulls out a marker. She draws a hat on him with glasses and everything, and she's looking back and forth at it. So I think that's when her will started to turn that he might be Superman.

So maybe that's why she brought the gun to try it. But I don't know. That's just me trying to put two and two together because, I mean, she didn't really think, in the theatrical cut, she didn't really think he was super. I mean, I wanted to know what other than seeing him without his glasses on. And I guess that that was their explanation on what. and then jumping in the river and all that thing. So Zod and the gang, they're all on earth now.

I love this scene because you see this sheriff and his deputy driving down the road talking about what they can get for lunch and then they pull up upon Zod and the gang. They're standing in the middle of the road, some dirt road out in the country somewhere. And I love with the sheriff leans out, he goes, hey, you hippies, get your butts off the road. I bet you they're from Los Angeles. He's like, I think he said, I'm General Zod or something. Make way.

Did you hear that? Did you hear him say, give me an order? And then he hands the deputy of his shotgun. He's like, well, I don't want to go out there and do these. Come on, because you've got to learn how to kick ass if you want to be a peacemaker. So that deputy gets out and trying to tell them to move. And then he pulls a shotgun on him. And then, uh, Zad just, he heats up the, the gun.

And then he lets go and then he, I guess he's got the force. And then he pulls it over to him and he grabs it. And then he pulls the trigger and shoots himself in the chest, but nothing happens. So they're not really sure what it is. So they walk up and they, he goes, I like the, uh, the red lights. Reminds him of the, the Krypton sun that they had. So they go there and he breaks that. Anon breaks it off, gives it to Zon.

and he kind of just laughs and they let those uh let those sheriff and the deputy leave uh we go back to Clark or no we did uh the what's it nuts uh Lex Luce yeah yeah Lex Lipper we get back to him and Miss Todd Test Mocker and they finally make it to the fortress of solitude I don't know what where they landed their hot air balloon, but okay. So they get there and they find out everything there. They see the little pedestal with the crystals in it, and they start placing them in those little tubes,

and they start seeing different things. Basically, those are the things how Clark learned, or Calell at that time, learn about Earth and everything. That was in this cut. In the In the Richard Donner cut, I want to say he, when he put those crystals in,

they were showing Marlon Brando talking about everything. So they had to cut that from this one because they didn't want to pay him again for his likeness in it. So that's why they added some bald guy talking about poems something about a tree and whatever so he figures out I think he learns

just basically on what where Superman came from and everything so but then we go back to Niagara Falls after Lex learns everything that he can from the fortress he they fly back to New York that's when Clark and Lois fly to the fortress of solitude because he says well if you know this I think you need to know it all

so that's why he flies her there and he's gonna tell her who because when he gets there he tells her he goes he why did you build this he goes well this thing called to me that green

the green crystal looking one that was the one that they had from the first film that basically they made the fortress of solitude because he said yeah this at night this thing called me and it made him go up there to

make it so he explained to her all that but while that while they were up there this is when General Zod and those guys make it into town I don't know where they were in some countryside and they make it into the town

they go into this little cafe and start raising hell when they walk in there there's some two local yokels sitting there arm wrestling and then they come walking in and I like that one guy and Erso walks over and looks

and he's like hey sweetie or whatever he says why don't you just sit right here why don't you just park them right here then it's not right to do that guys but in them days I guess that's how they rolled in that little town I loved how she sat down

and she goes let's just hold hands so like all right and she gets into the arm wrestling position just let me know if it's tight and she grabs his arm and throws them to the ground and everything and then they oh I like Nahn was outside trying to practice his his heat vision because he tried earlier but it just couldn't do it so he because he saw Ursa do it and so he was trying to trying to figure out his power so because at this

point other than his strength and he could fly he couldn't do much of anything at this point yeah I was gonna ask you what what's what's his purpose in the group? I think he's just the muscle. But then again, when they were on Krypton, I mean, they just had the regular strength.

They weren't all superpowered. So I guess they didn't really need him. I mean, they were already strong. Well, I don't need him now. Because they got the same powers. At the beginning, when they were reading them the rights, when they were introducing him to everyone, when they got to Nahn, they said,

you mindless whatever they said to him basically he was an idiot but he was just big and helped Nan and Ursa was a general sidekick and she was doing all kinds of bad shit even doing bad shit to kids

I don't know what kind of stuff to kids but that's that's what they were saying so they start fucking tearing up the town they go outside and the police show up I like when one of the yokels

come out with a shotgun, all right, put your hands up, and then Zod goes, these humans are beginning to bore me, then he does the finger ray and picks them up. All right.

Nipick time. How come Superman could never do that with this finger? Oh, well, we'll get to some of his fucking powers that just pop up here

out of nowhere. But I mean, I mean, that would have been awesome. If they could do it, Superman can do it. But, I don't know, maybe he just didn't know nothing about it.

That's probably a nitpick for me, because they've just mastered their power so quickly, and it took him, what, years to figure out everything? It took him a whole movie to figure out. They only been on Earth for a matter of hours, and they knew how to do everything. So, I mean, again, they came flying right out of the Phantom Zone. I mean, if that thing would have been,

blew up and they didn't know they could fly it blew up and they came out they would have been just floating the space like fuck now what are we going to do but all right so yeah they he does the laser beam out of his finger and holds that one guy up in the air

and that's when that little kid runs over he goes please please put my daddy down and uh in the urs he goes he's a general please mr general put him down and he just turns his beam off and that guy goes ah fall straight to the ground and you can clearly see there was something soft under the dirt

that he landed on. So they're there and then the Army shows up and again with the special match I thought it was awesome. I don't know who called the Army and how they got there so fast but all right maybe there was an army base nearby

because they full attack force, everything came. They were shooting the machine guns at them. They were shooting bazooka blasts at them helicopter came flying in

and they just I like them I liked how they those dudes on the roof shot that I think it was an RPG or something at them at non and he just caught it and then he just bent it through it down

I thought that was sweet um the bullets are flying everywhere um did someone come Yeah, somebody jumped at him with a flamethrower. Yeah, and Zad just blew it away. Yeah, and it caught that cafe on fire.

And then, I mean, they were shooting missiles and everything out of the helicopter at them, and they were just standing there as things were blowing up around them, and then he goes, Erso was like, they need machines to fly. And he goes, yes, and he goes, blow him a kiss. So she starts blowing the air, and the helicopter. There's all flip-flopping in there. You can clearly see it's a model. And then it calls and crashes into some barn.

And other than the military showing up there, like hella-quick, the news crews came super fast. So while all this was going on, Superman and Lois were talking, and Superman came up with his idea that he was just going to... Well, first they had dinner. And then he... No, or was that in the first one? No, it was this one.

They had dinner. And then he decided to just basically give up his powers. That's so unnecessary. Yeah, I think he only wanted to give up his power so he could beat it up. But because, like Brody said, mall rats, he goes, he couldn't do regular women because when he blew his load, it was shoot through her back like a shotgun. condens. So, um, he said the only way he can, uh, bang regular women is with the kryptonite condom, but then it would kill him. Anyway, that's Brody's logic. Anyway, so he, uh, the Superman don't use condoms if you've seen super, uh, Superman returns. But anyway, um,

um, uh, she, he's, she's talking to Lois or he's talking to Lois and then she's like, Okay, I'm going to go get into something more comfortable. Nip pick time again. Where the hell does she get this nightgown and everything? Did she throw in the purse when they flew up there? Where she keeps everything, purse, gun, everything. So, and other than he decided to do all this,

while she was changing her clothes or whatever, he pulls up the little platform and he puts in the crystal and he's talking to his mom. and she's telling him that this, if you use this thing, you're going to take away your powers and you can never get them back. But let me jump back really quick. When Lex Luthor and Ms. Tessmacher were there, they were listening to,

to, what the hell was his mom's name? Well, Superman's mom. I can't remember. They were listening to her, and she was talking about, they said they had three arch criminals trapped in the phantom zone. And she told him, she goes, and there's a chance that they could escape if there was an explosion in space. So when she said that, Laura.

Laura, okay. So when she said that, Luther was like, Well, shit, that's when we see them back in the hot air balloon going back to New York or Metropolis. And he was saying, he goes, these three criminals, all with the same powers of Superman. He goes, that's what I've been seeing on his little black box, these three things that he didn't know what they were. So now he got that in his mind and he's going to try to find him. So while, well, Zod and the gang are tearing up that little town fighting the army. Superman jumps in that thing, that little molecule chamber.

and changes himself into, sorry everyone trying to fix my microphone. There we go. He gets into that and it sucks all of his power out of him. I like the effects that they used here when they show like his face melting and everything. I thought that was cool. They were showing some images of Superman walking in fire.

Those images were supposed to be in the first film Because The extended version of Superman When he goes to Lex Luthor's Little underground sewer hideout In the theatrical cut of that one He just bust flies into the ground And then bust through that door and finds Luther

He went through all kinds of Like little chambers to get to Luther There was one where they tried to freeze them, and then they used fire. They blew like just flames at them, but it didn't stop them. So they took, since they didn't have that in the theatrical cut of the first film, they added that to this scene when it was taking all those powers away. So I thought that was cool. If you watch the extended cut of Superman, they add so much more into the film.

Yes, it's longer, but I liked everything that they added. So he loses all his powers and then he turns into just normal Clark Kent His suit's gone. I don't know where he had this nice shirt and pants, but okay His hair's not all slick back or anything. He gets out and This is why I had the problem with it. I mean again, this is one of my awesome my all-time favorite superhero films, but She lowest fell in love with Superman not Clark Kent. So I was thinking me now he will like he looks like Superman but he's Clark Kent because he's not going to go as Calell so yeah it's like this machine just

fully turned him into Clark Kent not not a regular man like it just made him Clark Kent and I didn't understand why he just because he had didn't have powers he had to kind of be it's almost like he was being bumbling on purpose. Yeah. I mean, because, I mean, his mom was trying to tell him, like, don't do it. But he was, he was like, I love her. I need to do it.

And I don't know, man. If I had superpowers, I ain't giving it up for nobody. I was like, all right. I mean, not just for a piece of ass. But so after he becomes normal or human, Clark, and then he commences to beating it up on that, that little, luckily there was a bed there. I guess Superman sleeps too when he's there.

So he had this nice little silver sheet blanket bed. So they don't show anything. They show the aftermath of them laying there, cuddling. So while all that's going on, Zad is tearing the hell out of this town. Luther is flying back to Metropolis. And the news crew are there. the president is watching because he's telling them who because they were like who's who's seeing this right now is what Zod was saying

who's seeing this right now and they said pretty much the whole planet and he was the whole planet Houston he's like no the whole planet at earth and like oh and then so he just basically gave me his orders I'm General Zod and this is what I'm going to do so they didn't mention Superman I know because they went to the White House and when the president was watching one of his advisors was like we're Superman why isn't he doing anything and they're like well fuck I don't

I don't know where he is what are we going to do so I love when they Zad and the gang fly to the White House and they come they were prepared and ready they knew it was there because they had a bunch of army soldiers in there protecting the president

plus all the secret servicemen and they come busting in and just start wreaking hell in there and fucking they're shooting machine guns in there shooting bazookas. I was like, damn, man, they came with all kinds of shit in there. M60s and all that. Bullets flying

everywhere. Other than the president is in the Oval Office and all the Secret Servicemen are with him. There's a scene. There's a scene they cut in this. When there's in the theatrical cut, they show it.

There's a soldier outside the window with the M16 and Zod grabs it and just pulls that soldier in. And the movie, that's all we see. When it was on TV, the TV cut version, Lex, or not Lex, Zod grabs that, pulls that machine gun,

he flips it around, looks at it, and then he starts shooting all the soldiers with it. I was like, man, why did they cut that part out? You can see that, you can see that scene on YouTube. But I remember that when I saw it on TV. I was like, whoa. I mean, I thought that was cool that they showed that. I wish I would have left that in the film.

But he just started mowing them down, all those soldiers that were standing there in the hall. And then they go busting into the Oval Office president sitting there in his chair, well, they think is the president. And they walk up to him. And at this point, there's nothing they can do. They know bullets and all that ain't stopping him. So he kind of gets up and all right, who's the president?

He says some shit at camera, but basically who's the president? So he comes around and he goes all right kneel So that guy just kneels down and he does it so quick goes you ain't the president He goes no one no man that has this much power would kneel so quickly and then this is when the president comes in the I'm the president And then that's when he comes around Talks to him and he puts his his his hand in his and he kneels to Zad and while he's he he he's he he's he He goes, I'm going to do this, but I'm doing this for the protection of all the people in the United States, or the world, I think he said. So he kneels down.

And then when he's kneeling down, he goes, oh, God. I like what he leads forward and goes, Zod. And then we go back to Clark and Lois, and they're, all right, nitpicked up. They're at the Fortress of Saltude. They got there and they flew there. Yes, and the original one, he walked there. Clark walked there. But then he couldn't get cold because he got super heat or whatever.

But anyway, so I want to know, well, at least Lex and them had the hot air balloon to jump back in and get off. But so did they, because in the first film, Clark was hopping on those little ice platform. to get to the fortress of solitude. So that's what they did. Yeah, I assume they did that. And then hiked off across miles and miles of snow and got to a car rental place. And then drove back to Metropolis from the North Pole.

I don't know. Movie. Oh, they had to stop at that diner first. Yeah, a little diner in an alley somewhere. So I did like that scene. go in there and just wanted to get something to eat and typical truck driver a little greasy spoon somewhere in the middle of Manhattan I guess I don't know if they let big rigs oh I'm sure they do I'll get no they do I'm sorry I'm not from New York

or anything but I with the last time I was there I know Queen was playing a Madison Square Garden and they had all their big rigs with all their their equipment so all right I guess they let big rigs in Manhattan. Anyway, so they're sitting there. There's some big old rough and tough looking truck driver sitting there eating food. Clark goes to the bathroom, and he starts making a pass at Lois. And then Clark comes back and tries to tell him, leave him alone. And then that guy's like, I just get out of my face or whatever.

And he ends up punching. No, did he? Yeah, he punched him. And then he got up and then tried to, why don't you step outside? And then that guy commences to beating the shit out of, out of Clark. I don't. I know he doesn't have super, super strength, but you just, you don't know how to fight anymore? I guess not, man.

Well, technically he didn't really fight anyone in the first film. I mean, there was no, there was no super bad guys. He was just trying to stop missiles The Lex Luthor shot. The one part I did like, though, was how he's reacting to the pain because he's never felt anything like this before. Yeah, much less blood.

Oh, my God, I'm bleeding. He's laying out. He's, look, blood, my blood. And then he gets up, and that's when he got his ass beat some more. But then while he's hunched over there, they look up at the news and they see Zod,

Well, the president is talking. And he's like saying, okay, I'm basically giving the power over to General Zod. And then Clark looks up and like, what? And then the president is going, Superman? Help us, Superman. And then Zod grabs the mic and goes, who is this, Superman? And he goes here and come and kneel before Zod, if you dare. And all that.

And then he's like, when did this happen? And then the guy the cook was like, where you been, buddy? So he's like, fuck. And then he, at this point, he's like, God damn it. He goes, I got to do something. But then Lois is like, well, you can't. I mean, he goes, wow. He goes, I got to try.

I got to do something. So I assume she just went home and he started heading north. I don't know how long it takes to get up. there or where they were going. But they just show Clark walking along the snowy road. No hat, no coat, and no gloves or anything. I was like, man, he'd have been dead or frostbitten because I don't know how, once you leave that road. I don't know how much snow you got to go through before you get to the fortress.

So he finally gets there. excuse me well I guess on his way there we go back to the White House and we see them sitting there I know there before I think before they went to the White House

I know they flew by like Mount Rushmore and they did some some alterations to the heads and put three heads of Zad Ursa andon and whoever the last guy was they blew his face off

so They were up on Mount Rushmore. And I think that was when they went and took over the White House. So they're just sitting there in a White House, like bored, didn't know what they were doing. And here comes Lex Luthor. He comes in to help him, or basically just kind of let him know who he was and that he could get. He could give them the son of Jarrell. So they're like, oh, cool.

And they're like, they're getting ready to go do, to go fight. him but then that's when Luther's like well there's some things that I want and they're like well what do you want he goes Australia I like how he just walked into the white house too yeah I mean well I guess everyone

left I mean what's the point of Secret Service and all them being there I mean they assume they went with the president to still protect him and they all left and we're getting out of him we're going to get killed by these space people.

So we see Clark, he's walking along the snow, he finally makes it back to the Fort's Solitude. Earlier in the film, when he was there with Lois, when he was showing her the green crystal, he handed it to her, and then they were talking about something,

and she just set it down. She didn't put it back in its little place in that little pedestal where all the other crystals, because after he got all his powers taken away, that little control panel, crystal thing all blew up. So Clark

gets there and he's like looking around and he doesn't know what he's going to do and then he just yells, Father! Then he's crying and he's looking around like oh fuck what am I going to do? And that's when he notices that green crystal lights up and he walks over

there and picks it up. All right. Richard or yeah, Donner Cut. In that version that's in the film, he he made it back. He was standing there at the pedestal and then he was trying to talk he was talking to his dad and then Marlon Brando appeared and he was talking to him and he was Jarrell was basically

telling him like well why did you do this why did you do that to yourself and all this and he was like well Clark was like well I was in love I wanted a piece of ass or something whatever the hell he said. But Jarrell was kind of mad a little, but then he's like, you know what? All right, I'm going to help you out. He said some things, but that's basically, all right, I'm going to help you out.

So it was, it was his head at first, and then at the end of his speech, it was Marlon Brando came walking up to Clark. And then he, that little

that little green crystal, he didn't, didn't find it on the ground like he didn't in the regular cut it came up in that little platform and then Clark was holding it and then um the Jarrell walked over to to Clark and he put his hand on his shoulder and then Clark started shaking and convulsion and ah doing all that and basically Jarrell was given Clark his powers back and then because a Jarrell told him he's like look man this I can't help you anymore this is the last time you're going to see me after this.

So he was a, Drell was the one that gave him his powers back. And then that's how he became Superman again. And the regular theatrical cut, we just see Clark find that green crystal and that's it. We don't see anything else because we go back. We go back. I did like that part of the Richard Donica,

because it gave you an explanation on how he got his powers back. Yeah, it made it something important too by saying, by his father saying this is the last time, you know. Yeah. So, I mean, I like that of it. I mean, I liked everything that they had in the Donner Cut. The thing that took me out of it is it just the half-ass effects. Because even during that scene, when Clark is talking to Jarrell,

Clark has his hands up. I mean, you see Christopher Reeve standing there with a hands up, but then there's a camera shot behind him. And you can clearly see there was something that they CGI did. And it just, it looked it looked bad. I was like, oh man, what the hell? But, I mean, but it moves the story along. And it shows how he got his powers back.

So we go back to the Daily Planet. Lois just must have went straight to work. It didn't. There was no way she could talk to Clark because he didn't have a cell phone or anything. So, um, there's shit for all she know, he could have been dead. Yeah,

so she wasn't going to go with him then because you sure really would have slowed her now. But I say days might have had to have gone by in order for Clark to get up there. So, um, I figured he could have drove most of the way because when he was walking down that road,

that big rig was going by and, and just left him in the, in the dust. I'm like, why don't you drive until you couldn't, drive anymore, but I don't know. So anyway, they're at the Daily Planet, and the next thing you know, it seems like there's an earthquake, and they start hearing all this rumbling and crashing around, and here comes

Zod and the gang with non leading the way, crashing through wall, breaking through windows, smashing desk, where they charge into Perry White's office, and he's standing there with Lois, and then he slams his arm down onto the desk and breaks it and half and picks up Perry White and slams his head into the ceiling. I laugh every time they do that. It's funny. It's whatever

that styrofoam stuff that's on the ceiling. It wouldn't have knocked him out. No. Okay. But a little Jackie Cooper, he goes down and then they come busting in and here comes Lex. And then he's like, ha. You could just see the White House. They'd be cleaning

glass for months. So they basically like, you, you, said we'd have the son of Jarrell. Where is he? And he's like, uh, well, he's not here, but I'm giving you the next best thing. And you hold on to this little lady right here and he'll be

along. Uh, so everyone's looking at them. They're looking at, uh, looking at Lex and everything. Because they're like, oh, fuck, you brought him here. And then, uh, they're like, oh man. So they're basically, well, he, Jad, Zad is tired. He wants someone

to die. So they're like, all right, well, We have no more use for him, kill him. So they start going after the Lex, and he's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. And then all of a sudden, here comes Superman. Well, we see shots outside. People are doing what they're doing in New York. And all of a sudden, you hear something fly by. Everyone's looking up, and there's, like, big old wind.

And here comes Superman flying in. I like this. I like, because he flies in. He's like, luckily, there was a flagpole out of, for some reason, up that. high on a building. And then he was like, General Zod, or how would you like to step outside? And then Lex is like, oh, thank God. And then they look at him and he goes, get him.

And then they all just go flying out through the walls in the glass. And this is when I had the big fight in Manhattan. The thing that made me laugh here is the big old holes in the side of this building and glass and run. cement and everything go fall into the ground, didn't hit anyone, luckily. But while they're out there fighting, Lois is looking out the window with everyone else. And you see them flying all over New York

because they're flying by the World Trade Center and flying over the Brooklyn Bridge and all that. But they're looking out the window, seeing all of it. I'm like, how? Who was this lady that was all up in her face the whole time? I don't know. I want of her co-workers like, like, yes.

So, I like it. It's funny and it's stupid, but I mean, I still love this whole fight battle. I mean, because we, up to this point, we never seen Superman fight any super beings. I mean, he fights a computer and the next one in a robot, cyborger, whatever that lady was. and he doesn't fight another one. Nuclear man or whoever that was. I'm not talking about that one. Nuclear man or whatever the hell his name was,

that pretty boy with the blonde feathered hair. Superman was almost defeated by a scratch. Well, he got scratched by the nuclear man guy. Nuclear man. I can't remember what his name was, but he had. I think that was his name. He was, because he was. because they,

I know we've called by Superman, too, but Lex Luthor put, remember they stole that little piece of hair from the museum? It was Superman's hair, so he had his DNA, and he took some of his, Lex Luthor's DNA

and made some little blob or whatever, and he put it in that box, and they put it in the missile, threw it up in the space, and when it blew up into the sun, here came nuclear man. Anyway. You see younger listeners,

that's what we have. when we were younger. We had nuclear man. Yeah, we didn't have Steppenwolf and Thanos and all that. We had nuclear men. So you guys are lucky on what you guys are getting right now. You're getting TV shows and more movies to come. We only had not even a handful of superhero movies back then.

But anyway, I like this whole fight scene. It's goofy and everything, but it was cool. I mean, I like more of the hand-to-hand stuff than when they were flying around chasing each other. I thought that was cool because Zad is throwing cement walls at Clark, and he's blowing him up with his eye rays. Who did he not? I think he knocked General Zod into that big Coke sign that was on top of some building for some reason. I'm like, if it's way up there, how the hell is the people on the ground supposed to see it?

but anyway product placement we got a lot of product placement in this scene you got KFC you got Marlboro cigarettes you got more

Coca-Cola yeah there's something else I can't remember KFC is the one of me I mean all hell is breaking loose in the streets of Manhattan buildings are not falling down but parts of buildings are

crashing to the ground and could kill people there's cars crashing what the hell well I'm jumping ahead but I mean there was a scene in this that they cut out it's in the Richard Donner cut

because I think he was fighting non and he gets thrown into the Statue of Liberty her torch Superman gets thrown into that he goes crashing into that thing and then he climbs out of it

and then commences to kick an ass some more. I wish they would have left that in. I did like that scene. And what is wrong with these people on the ground? Especially when they see stuff falling down. They don't run anywhere. They just kind of cover their heads. I know that fucking one part was stupid.

Well, I know all you guys are laughing and saying this whole movie is stupid, but I love it. Anyway, I can't remember who. knocked the little tower thing off the top of the Empire State building. One of them knocked it off. Yeah. And it goes falling down towards the ground in Superman.

As it's falling, everyone's looking up and seeing it and you see everyone running for their lives. Here comes this lady with a little a stroller. I'm like, okay, first of all, lady, I mean, you see hell on earth happening in the streets of

Manhattan and you're out there walking with your baby. But then she looks up sees it fall and then she just covers her baby like oh like that like yeah that'll help yeah if that thing hits you you guys are both dead but luckily superman flew down and caught it and before uh it could hit her but i loved her when she was like thank you and he turns around just smiles and uh he takes it back up to the top i don't know i can't remember why non was laying there but on the top but he he basically puts it on top of him didn't even weld it back on he just set it there so and he strong gust of wind could

still blew it off. Or when Nahn climbed out, maybe he knocked it out. Yeah. But when he was laying there, Ersa goes, he caged Nahn. And that's when Zad was like, he really cares for these humans. And so let's do some more damage. That's when

they fly down to the ground and pick up that bus. And that here, here, take the end of this. And they start, they pick up the bus. and this is what it made me laugh because Superman's like no, the people

and you got the people Superman, save us. Yeah, everyone's in there. First of all, why is everyone standing? If you're going to stand, jump out the windows or something.

Because they didn't pick it up too high. I mean, you could have still jumped down, maybe twisted your ankle or something, but you'd have been all right, but they'd throw that bus. There's people. win there um but before you got hit with the bus uh i know um he flew down did he land on zod or

i think it was zod because he landed on top of him and they went crashing into the into the undergrounds of manhattan and uh they're they're down they're fighting all you hear's oh ah and all this but i think it was none yeah it was kind of like an earthquake and you see everyone up top i mean i would love to be in something like this and all right now act like you you you're you're falling like you're losing your balance because you see everyone kind of oh whoa falling things are dummies or mannequins are crashing through uh store displays and cars are crashing uh hub cap or not hubcaps uh manhole caps are shooting in the air because whatever they're doing now and there is causing all kinds of shit i think it was not because when he punches him

he goes flying out of the ground and then goes crashing into yeah and I think you hear him because he non makes those like kind of weird noises because when he goes he goes crashing through a building he flies through the windows

crashes through ceilings and then busts comes busting out of the other side they didn't they did a lot of damage but not the the damage when they were taking buildings down in Man of Steel there was nothing like that during this battle

I did like all that I just didn't like I mean I love what's his name the actor the guy that played General Zod but I just No, Michael Shannon Yeah that didn't it didn't work In that film

Anyway So they're still fighting in the streets Oh well that that's when they picked up the bus And they threw it at him And then he goes It lands sideways and then it grabs Superman tries to grab it

and it just pushes them into the marble truck more product placement and then they think oh then everyone's like they killed them they killed Superman oh man you hear all the the crowd and then all of a sudden everyone got big balls all of a sudden like

come on let's get them they're grabbing pipes and whatever they can grab to go try to take out Zod and they're all just standing there and the straight looking at them like please and then they start blowing the super breath oh yeah i love that it's awesome and it's this part is so stupid but i mean i love it i mean it's awesome everyone's like ah getting blown

back uh and this is when your guy comes with the sequence of the roller skin in the roller's Is this one, wasn't there a guy in a phone booth? Yeah. And he's still trying to, as the phone booth gets knocked over and is blown away, he's still trying to make his call. Yeah, he's still laughing and talking. I mean, the receiver ripped out of the phone, but that scene. I mean, again, all hell's breaking loose outside, and you're on the phone laughing around

with your friends. I mean, okay. Well, like those two people that walked out of KFC that apparently didn't know none of this was going on. They come outside with their order and then get blown down the street. And then the lady comes out. I mean, that's the old school KFC outfits that they had them wear. They don't wear those anymore with the hats and everything. Yeah.

I remember that, clearly. She comes running out, you forgot your chains and a wall. She gets blown down the street. I mean, everyone's just getting blown all over the place. I mean, I like some of the people that are just, they're leaning up against cars, just waving their hands in the air, going, ah! During some of the scenes, when hell is all breaking loose,

clearly you can see it's all models, and it's a model set they built. They had little figurine dolls or whatever of people. on like a conveyor belt because it looks like they're walking or running and you can clearly see the little conveyor belt they're hooked to pushing along I mean they show the scenes really quick but you can

see it I mean again I've seen this movement millions of the time I've never seen that before I caught it this time I was like how did I miss that I mean because it was clear his day when you see those people and the model cars flying all because I think it was when it was it was during this part when they were blowing it

because the cars were doing flipping down the roads and everything. But while they're doing that, Superman comes climbing out of the wreckage when they threw the bus at him, and then he just, he goes flying off. And then everyone was like, oh, Superman, where are you going? He's leaving us. And those two little kids. Oh, man, he's leaving. And let's go.

And then they end up leaving. Did they go down on the subway? I guess. By themselves? That's not that's dangerous. Well, not in those days. With the New Yorkers, man. They know how to do it.

Every time I ride the subway, I'm scared. Nothing against any of you that live in New York. I'm from California. You guys rule totally different over there. Not saying that's bad. I mean, I love New York. I can't wait until I can go back there. But anyway, so Superman flies off.

And Lois and those guys, like oh fuck man he he gave up basically but we know what he was doing he was just trying to get them out of the city so he flies off and then they go uh zod and the gang go flying back into the into the daily planet and then they're like well he he took off we defeated him but they still wanted him and then they were like well what are we going to do and that's when they were getting ready to kill uh uh gerret not gire um lex luther but then he told me look man he goes you still need me he goes because I

I know his address and they're like Zahn man he wanted to kill him a long time and he was like well all right well okay I guess we still need you and then Ersa was like well he goes we have one thing he goes why don't we keep his favorite

and he grabs Lois or she grabs Lois so the next scene we see them and they're all flying in the air towards the fortress non has Lois Lane on his back and Lex is hanging on to

Ursa So they're flying They go flying into The Portures of Solitude And they're there And Was Superman Santa

Waiting or did Because I know they came Flying in And then Shit how did he appear I don't necessarily remember but I know this kicks off a bunch of stuff that I didn't know

Superman can do and that's he can teleport and multiply himself and the one thing I can't I know you love the movie I love the movie too I can't get down with the saran wrap logo thing he throws

I'm reading this on Wikipedia. It just, they say they get there and Superman's there. Yeah, he was there. I can't remember exactly because when they fly in there, they basically throw off Lex and he falls down and then they fly in and land and then Superman shows up. And then they kind of get into a little battle inside the fortress. So they're looking at him and this is when they're all doing the finger ray.

at the same time. And Superman's trying to hold it off with his hand. And then he gets the strength to shoot those laser beams right back at him. And then they go falling down. And I think this is when he pulls. Non goes to fly at him. And then he pulls a little saram wrap. Superman logo off his chest and throws it on Nam.

It's goofy and stupid, man. But I wish he would do it again in one of these new movies. Because it basically just, disappeared because it wrapped him up and he fell to the ground and then it vanished. But, okay, that was cool. And all right, right here too. I mean, I didn't, Superman never did this again. When he's standing there, he,

Superman turns into, what, four or three extra Superman? Yeah. And real, real quick, going back to Zon. God and them. How do they know they can teleport? How do they know how to do all this stuff they were doing? I mean, I'll give it to Superman. Maybe this is something that he's practiced over the years and he's just never had a chance to use. But they're just so quick with it.

He said he used it before because when he did it, he goes, he disappears. And he's four different people. And then they disappear. here and then they teleport to each of the the Superman and then Lois is standing there and then Superman he goes I was never really good at this but he did it a lot when he was in school

all right nobody said anything about that if he was doing this at school I don't believe no kid so so non goes to fly and tackle Superman, but he like turns into

a block like an ice culture or something. Yeah, he goes crashing into that. Ursa goes to kick and just basically goes right through Superman. She falls down. Lois is looking at and she goes, I knew it's you. And then she goes

to hug him and she goes walking right through Superman and then we get to Zod. Why wouldn't he think that was him? There's only one left. Zod kind of like just wants to touch him and then Superman grabs him and gets him in like a

headlock. And Nan and Ursa grab Lois Lane and they go let the general go well tear her apart and she's like Superman screaming and here comes Lex finally he comes rolling in but they were getting ready to kill him too

and then he was like no he goes I gave you Superman And they're like, we don't need you anymore. And then that's when the whole battle began. So basically they go, all right, well, he goes, I want you to kneel before me or whatever. But because when they were before all that, Lex got over to Superman and he was trying to like, oh, man, come on, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?

And then Superman's like not having it. But then he just decides to lean in. He's like, hey, if there's a way, get them to get into this molecule chamber. He goes, it'll take away their powers. And then Zod comes walking up. And they're like, I'm like, you're right there. I mean, you're not very far. I'm sure he heard everything you said anyway.

Plus he's got super hearing. But you're trying to whisper around these three. It should mean nitpicking everyone. So he's a dog. He goes, hey, don't go in there. That's a molecule. chamber and he'll take it you it'll make people like you into people like me luther you rat or whatever he says and then it's like all right and he goes lex luther ruler of australia

uh work the controls or whatever he said so he they make superman get into that little chamber that he got in earlier and he goes all right louis luther's like well with your permission and then like go for it so he sticks that crystal and the little uh little cylinder thing and then the door closes behind Clark and then all of a sudden he starts acting like

something's happening to him again but the light outside turns red and everyone's just kind of like they're watching Superman but like non and everyone's like looking around the room like what the hell's going on all right so after the light turns

back to normal Clark comes stumbling out or Superman come stumbling out and then he goes up to Zod and he goes all right now kneel before Zod so Superman gets down on one knee and basically

going to pledge his uh his allegiance to Zad because he said he was going to be his slave forever so he's holding his hand and then all of a sudden he goes and uh Zon

yeah he like broke just broke all the bones in his hand and then he like picks him up and he goes dun dun and dun dun he's holding him up by one hand and then Luther's like he goes he did the whole switcheroo or whatever he said he goes the lights were on out here and he was safe in there and Superman kind of gives him the like yeah good thinking so non looks and he tries to fly and it goes oh he falls down where do they go I don't know I assume to their death. I don't know

where they just fall through the smoke. He goes falling through there. Oh, he picked up Zodd and threw him and then he fell into that. Then Nan tried to fly and he fell. And then Ursa had her hand around

Lois' like her chanin neck and then Lois like you know what? You're a real pain in the neck and then punches her and then she goes, ah, falls into the thing. And then that's that's the end of them I was kind of like

at all they didn't have powers anymore but after all that that's how they're going to die yeah I was wondered I mean even to this day where did they go where did

was it that dangerous in there that there's these deadly drops I don't know I don't know they're deadly

why are they inside yeah I mean Like, okay, I think you would make it to be safe. Well, it's not like he could get hurt. I mean, he's super... Yeah. There's a lot of things in the fortress of solitude that should be there.

There shouldn't be a machine that takes away your powers. Yeah. Why was that there? Oh, man. So they're done. And then they're like, all right. And then Lex's like, oh, man, we did it. They fell right into our trap.

and then he was like, nope, shut up, Luther. And they're like, well, him and Lois start flying off. And Lex was like, hey, at least give me a ride. And then they just leave him there. All right. I assume Lex walked back through the snow and everything. Because I don't think he flew, unless he flew back and got him. Because I don't remember, was Lex in jail?

the fourth one and busted out. He was because Ducky broke him out Ducky. Well, John Cryer, his nephew. He's Ducky. He's Ducky. That's all he's going to be is Ducky. And he's not Lex. Yeah, he was Lex in the

Infinite Earth or whatever Earth crisis or whatever that show was, which was pretty awesome, though. He did a good job as Lex Luthor. But anyway, he's Ducky, period. You guys, you younger listeners know what we're talking about. Watch Pretty in Pink. Um, so they fly back, uh, to, to Metropolis.

He drops off, uh, Lois. Uh, in the Richard Donner cut, she, because in, in this one, he just like basically dropped her off and then, all right, well, my, your secret say with me and, and I'll see you later and Superman flies off. In the Richard Donner cut, there was more of a long, uh, speech of her crying and saying, I, I won't tell anyone your secret. Um, it's. safe with me, but just know I love you and I'll never love anyone else because

Stark was trying to say, well, you know, you'll find someone else and she goes, well, you're kind of a hard act to follow. So basically, well, we can't be together. So I'm out. So he flies off. I'll see you tomorrow at work. That's what he tells her. And then the next day she's at work and looked like she was crying. Clark comes walking in, ask her how she's doing and she goes I haven't slept the wink and because I was up crying all night and she's still crying and she goes how what are we going to do how are we going to do this he goes hi I how am I going to look at you every day and know what I know in the richard donica that scene when they got to the daily planet it went on a little bit longer as well this one it was like

just kind of real quick and then he he walked up to her and gave her a super kiss because and it just wipes her memory. Yeah, just wiped her mind. I didn't know Superman can do that. Unless he does it

in these new books or there was something I missed. It was funny. From what Richard Donner said, he never wanted to see Clark kiss Lois.

He always wanted him to be as Superman doing it. Technically he was. He took his glasses off, so he He could see that he was Superman. But he kissed her.

And then she just like fucking just wasted her memory. And then she was like, where am I? What's going on? What happened? And the Clark was like, you're okay? You're okay? He puts his glasses back on and gets into Clark mode. And the other lady that was talking shit earlier, she comes running him.

And she's like, oh, man, what was I talking about? And she goes, for all I know, you were talking about Superman. And Clark goes, ah, him again. He was playing the role. And she's like, Lois, she's like, Clark, come on, man, you need to be jealous. And he goes, here, why don't you just go get me a hamburger? He goes, at night in the morning? And she goes, yeah, with everything on it.

And orange juice, freshly squeezed. And then he disappears. Ends of going back to the diner. And luckily that guy was still in town. I thought he was just a truck driver driving through. but he rolls back up in there and I love what he's it's stupid line but he comes walking in

he goes I never seen garbage eat garbage before because before he said that line that guy was hey man give me another plate of this garbage and then they go hey that's our number one special and that's when Clark comes out hey I never seen garbage eat garbage before and then he turns around and looks at him

and he goes ah you and then he walks up to him I believe you're sitting in my favorite seat Why don't you come get it? So he walks over to him and then that big dude I think his name was Rocky or something. Yeah. Oh yeah, his name was Rocky.

It says it right here. He walked up to him and then punches him in the gut and he goes thunk like he's hitting steel, man of steel. And he goes, oh, looks at his hand and then he picks him up, puts him on the counter. He goes, this orders to go. And then shh- So first he spun him on that chair.

Oh, that's right. I don't think those chairs. work like that where you spin it and it just gets higher? Well, maybe in Metropolis they do. That's right. He spun him Ella Fazzin. Like, no one gave a shit either. Like, oh my God, how'd you do that? But he puts him on the counter

and this orders to go and then shoots him down the counter. He goes and crashes into a pinball machine. And then he goes, hey, I'm sorry for the damages in hands of the cook. They go a lot of money. And then he looks at it. he goes, I've been working out. I was like, come on.

But it was cool. I liked that he went back there and beat the shit out of that, dude. But it goes against Superman's code. Well, it wasn't Superman. It was Clark because he didn't take the glasses off. Why? I mean, Superman never wants revenge. I mean, that was technically he went back to get revenge on Rocky.

in the the Richard Donner cut this whole ending was different what after he dropped off Lois to get her instead of kissing her and all that to wipe her memory he goes and spins the earth

back the other way again like he did in the first film I wouldn't have liked that if that was in this in this one I mean, I liked how this was named. Kissing her and wiping her memory. Zod and everyone's dead. But what he does, he goes around the earth and everything starts going backwards again.

He winds the earth all the way back to where they go back into Zod, Nahn, and Ersa end up back in the forbidden zone. And the phantom zone. They end up back in that. So I assume he took the bomb somewhere else or I don't know Or maybe he foiled their plan I don't know but it spun everything back basically to the beginning of the movie So none of it happened Lois doesn't know Superman or anything and I was kind of like

Okay, so if we went forward with this with the Richard Darnockut version Zod and them are still floating around the space in the phantom zone but there still is a chance they could get out if there was some kind of explosion up there I mean if that was canon

to Superman's storyline maybe well I guess there was no flash whiz when they threw all those nuclear bombs into the sun but I don't know I was like that did that ending did not sit right with me

and Richard Daughter was all about it like oh man it was cool it goes yeah we had to do the rewind in the earth again and everything I was like I think once was enough I think that's probably why they changed it maybe that was the reason why they the studio didn't want him to do what he was doing and then they just I don't know if he they fired him or he quit or what but that's probably why they gave us this version took out Marlon Brando took out the ending and all the little goofy things that that he added into it I the only thing I would have kept in this movie is the the Marlon Brando part when when we show how he how Superman got his powers back.

I liked that. I thought that was pretty cool. But I don't think they had the money to pay Marlon Brando because from what I understand they paid him like a shit ton of money to just film the little bit of scenes that he had in the first film. I mean, because I think at that time, he as well as Glenn Ford, I mean, They were, like, the biggest actors in that movie. So, but, yeah, that's Superman 2. The only way to watch the theatrical cut is if it's streaming somewhere, like, on HBO Max. It's not on Blu-ray.

I wish they would put this version out because I would have it. Because the set that I got, it's all four movies, but it's the Superman, too, is the Richard Donner cut. they don't have the regular one. I wish it would just added both of them in it and it would have been fine. To look this up, Marlon Brando received $3.7 million for his role in Superman for 20 minutes, 13 days of work and less than 20 minutes on screen.

That damn. 20 minutes. That's crazy. Did you ever see Supergirl came out after the fourth film? Yeah, I had to because, you know, Billy Jean. But, yeah, we might have to do that one day because that, that's certainly something that was put on film. I didn't, I didn't.

I mean, I love Helen Slater, but I did not like that movie at all. Oh, man, I saw that in the theater, too, thinking like, oh, cool. man, Supergirl. We were sitting there like, when is this over? I didn't like it at all. But all right, everyone. That was Superman, too. I know I said we weren't going to do the play-by-play,

but once I got going, I couldn't stop. But I love this film. As goofy and all the shit as I was saying about it, I mean, I love it. I mean, this was my number one superhero film. out of everything until Christopher Nolan's The Dark Night came out. That booted Superman 2 down.

The Dark Night is my favorite. Out of the DC films. The Dark Night is my number one and Superman 2 is number 2. I couldn't even tell you what's after that. Yeah. We got two more movies after this. We got Superman 3 and then we got Superman 4,

The Quest for Peace. I like the whole idea of the no nuclear thing that they were trying to do. but when Nuclear Man came into play, I was like, his deadly long nails. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck is going on in this one?

I know a lot of people didn't like Superman 3. That one, Richard Lester, came back to direct that one. It's goofy and slapsticky, and yes, you bring in the legendary Richard Pryor. A lot of fans did not like him. And even then when it came out, But then even the younger fans that find this film later on, they're like, he's stupid. Some of it mostly, I was listening to one podcast.

They didn't even know who Richard Pryor was. And I was like, wait, what? But I can understand they were young. You got to watch it to see evil Superman, which is not really evil Superman. He's more of an asshole that just gets drunk and has five o'clock shadow. That was my favorite part of that one. I mean, he was all faded. nuts into breaking the bottles I thought that was cool he goes to me Clark goes back to

super smallville and rekindles his romance with Lana Lang I loved all that thing I did like the bad guys in it I didn't Richard Pryor's awesome but what's his name the hell was his name Robert Vaughn he was Ross Webster I mean I Robert Vaughn's always playing a good bad guy, so I thought he was really good. Margot Kidder, Lois Lane, they had to sideline her because they wanted, what's her name, Lana to be more of up in front of the love interest in this one. And what the hell was Lana's name in that one? Jackie Cooper, Anetto Tool, which the thing that was cool that I loved is she was

Martha Kent in Smallville. I thought that was really cool. I was watching something on that, and they were saying that... Why did you say that name? The reason she took it was because she was really knowledgeable of the Superman story. I mean, just because she played Lana and Superman 3.

So I thought that was really cool. Her reason is why she took the role in Smallville, but... Save Martha. Superman 3 is goofy and everything, but, man, I love it. I thought it was awesome. Even what's his name came back? He was an asshole in the first film.

Hank or something. I can't remember his name. He was the football dude. Oh, God, David. What was his name? I'm going to kick myself until I remember. I won't be able to sleep unless I remember. was a redhead guy and he was drunk

every time he was on screen um Brad yeah he popped he was in the smallville when they were in smallville and then a little bit in the middle I love the scene when he was getting fader at Richard Pryor during that scene and then he popped him at the very end when the Clark beat his ass but

I mean but Superman 3 it is what it is Again, all four of them are streaming on HBO Max, I think. But Superman, too, man. I mean, I love it. I mean, yeah, we're talking shit about it. But, I mean, it's, to me and my history of comic book films, I mean, it was awesome to see. And it's still awesome to watch today. I think out of all four of them are the original four, that's the one I watched the most.

I have my love for the first one, my love for the third one. I guess I got to be in the right mood to watch the fourth one, but it is, it is, it is what it is. The part that I loved in the fourth one was when Superman picks up Lois and they go flying again. And then she, when they, he takes her back to her to her apartment, he's like, He's talking to her and he's like, you know what? I don't think I ever told you my name. And then she looks at him and she goes,

Callel. And then he goes, you remember, don't you? She goes, I remember everything. And he was like, so I mean, I guess that kiss wears off in time. So I really liked that scene. It was cool that she, I want to know when she realized it and remembered,

but just kept their mouth shut that whole time. But then he gave her, were another kiss and wiped the brain again for however however long but it wasn't that long because superman returns they oh that's right they had a kid no wait a minute um uh superman returns was a direct sequel to superman two so three and four never happened oh there was no drunk superman and there was no nuclear man so and no and there was no ducky yeah well he's still wiped her memory though Whoa, I just realized that he wiped her memory and got her pregnant. Yeah, so.

Superman, that's not good. So he still must have had a little bit of super power in him because obviously knocked her up. Because from what I understand in Superman returns, he took off after two. Because he heard that there was still life or something. There might have been survivors from Krypton other than him and General. Osadden him. So he flew off to go

see what it was and I don't know how far he flew but it was obviously super far because he was gone for years because Lois had

that little kid and everything. I know if you haven't seen that we're just spoiling before you put that little kid had superpowers. Do you think

she knew or she knew it was his kid but do you think she already knew he had super strength? I mean, you would have to

I mean, he's half Kryptonian But I guess the whole being The little asthmatic kid And he was kind of small for his age So I guess that might make you think Maybe it just skipped him Yeah, because I was thinking

I mean, I didn't I didn't I wasn't even thinking That that was his kid Because in In Superman return turns Lex Luthor, well, we didn't know he was a creep. Kevin Spacey, I thought he played a good Lex Luthor. Jesse Eisenberg, that's not Lex Luthor. Hashtag, not my Lex Luthor.

And I hate that kid. Anyway, but I always find to find his movies in my top 10 of the year. But anyway, because when Lex Luthor realized, I guess he was kind of doing the math. He looked at Lois and he looked at the boy. And then he was thinking, is this Superman's kid? Because he had that kryptonite little cylinder. And he held it in front of that boy.

And that little boy just looked at it. Like, what are you doing? So I don't know. We will never know because we never got any sequel to Superman returns. Because Brian Singer was also a creep. He couldn't keep his hands to himself. Creepy, creepy people in Hollywood. Yeah.

Because obviously he had strength, the super strength. So, I mean, we didn't know if he could fly or shoot lasers out of his eyes, much less his finger. I mean, come on, Superman. I mean, those three did it. Why couldn't you? So, but I don't know. I mean, I thought Brandon Rout did as a good job as Superman. I mean, I bought it.

I thought he, I liked the movie. I know a lot of people didn't, but I thought it was cool. Henry Cavell, he's good. I mean, I like him as Superman, but. it wasn't his fault it was just Zach Snyder's vision of what he wanted a more darker edgier Superman I mean

it was what it was it wasn't as edgy as him getting drunk in Superman 3 but because um all right another nitpick we should be done right now sorry everyone real quick and the third one when he was all drunk and he uh he got that blonde girl

because he ended up beating it up because he went to her back to her apartment and was looking at her then later down, but then the camera fades out goes to another scene. So I assume he beat it up because later on the film, she's like, hey, remember me, honey? He goes, we. And then he goes, I'm sorry, but that wasn't me. So she was like, oh, okay. So I assume that he can do what he has to do while he's got super strength.

Yeah, faster and speed and bullet. Yeah, so I don't know. But it's these movies, they are what they are. Again, that's what we had in the 70s and 80s. And you guys got Zach Snyder's vision. Effects-wise, I love the effects. I did like the fight in Metropolis, but I just didn't like what he was trying to do.

Hopefully he can fix it all with this Justice League. But I don't know. I mean, I know Steppenwolf is going to be in it, but how much is Doomsday going to be in it? So, is it Dooms Day or Apocalypse? No, no. Darkside. Darkside. I'm sorry.

See, I get all, they're Marvel and everyone. I get everything all mixed up. Yeah, Darkside. Because we did see that little preview when he's in the movie. Yeah. What's her name? The, not Wonder. Well, it's Wonder Woman, but Diana.

When she sees the. dark side picture or whatever that is on the wall. I haven't seen too much of it other than that scene and we see Superman flying into the Batcave in his black suit. Yeah, I haven't been watching anything. I kind of want to go into it fresh. Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from everything. I don't want to read nothing. I just want to sit down there and watch it. Four hours, man. That's going to

I'll try to do it all in one take but I might have to stop it and go the bathroom and get something to eat but I'm going to sit there and watch all four hours of it so get ready for that show we might just have to hit the highlights we'll be here all night and we try to run through that one but

well that was my pick this week for stream fiend Superman 2 oh now it's your turn what do we got for next episode We're going to stay with HBO Max And they got a new release coming out

I believe the 29th Probably be out by the time you hear this episode And it is The Little Things Starring Denzel Washington Rammy Malick and Jared Is it Leto or Lido? I think it's Leto Okay Jared Leto

Neo-Noar Psychological Thriller I like all three of them And all three of them are Academy Award winners So that's cool Um Uh see the film has many Many comparing it to Ninety-five seven

Hmm I'll be the judge of that Because I love seven So we'll see I know a lot of people When they first heard the cast They thought Rami Malik was going to be the bad guy I was like hell no

I mean, I like him, but no way. Jared Lidlittle is a better. It's, it's Rami's face, his eyes. Kind of go. That guy is kind of creepy. I mean, I love him and Mr. Robot. He was awesome as Freddie Mercury. And I wish we could see no time to die because he's the bad guy in that, but I don't know what's happening.

I got delayed to October. Fuck, man, just put it out. Same thing with Black Widow, man. I'm tired. It better be hell of good for them to keep pushing it back and back and back. I know they want it to be in the theater. I mean, it will be in the theater, but they want that,

that Marvel money, that Marvel Disney money that they've been making for the past 20-something years. And they want that. I mean, they, this will be the first one during this pandemic. So, I don't know. I mean, because the only thing we've got Marvel-wise, the newest thing is Wanda Vision.

That sounds so good. Yes. Speaking of Wanda Vision, we just dropped a third episode or second episode, talking about the third episode, now in color. I think that was the name of the title. We talked about that one. Again, I had to take notes, and we're trying to figure out what's happening and what we think. I mean, if you're listening to that or if you haven't

listening to it yet, a lot of that is just the stuff that we think. We don't know where they're going to go with that show. Yeah, they say episode four and on, it gets crazy. That's what they're saying. I hope so, because

I'm ready. I mean, I want, they teased us with that first week dropping two episodes, and then now we've got one week. So, and I think is nine episodes, so. you still got a few more but all right everybody it's getting late and that's going to be it so we'll be back

little things that's what it's called the little things on hbomax all right we'll come back with that so definitely uh be back for that one check out uh the latest episode of the action return when we continued our uh karate kid retrospective with karate kid two and four uh if you haven't heard that yet go go listen to it so but other than that check out east society we got more coming check out our wonder vision episodes regular episode is coming macniz uh you should have heard the newest episode by now 128 definitely check that out when i'm talking to um the the the hosts of the residual haunts podcasts two awesome native uh brother and sisters so they're they're really awesome They're not brother and sisters, but they call

when natives, we call each other brother and sister and all that. So anyway, there are a couple. Awesome people. Definitely check out their show and check out that episode. And that's it for us. I mean, what do you guys got coming in the horror returns? We got some more year and horror coming.

We got David Cronenberg's The Fly. I think February, we're actually going to start getting into some new releases. It's been a while on the show since we review something new. Of course, more action returns coming. Stream fiends is going

to be busy because HBO Max is dropping a whole bunch this year. And me and as we go, we got some other reviews coming. Shout out to Unquarked Entertainment and a few other studios

that hooked us up with something and we'll get those out pretty soon. and yeah anything else no man that is it everyone thank you so much for listening again like Brian said we got I've got a ton of stuff coming for you guys

here on the Horror Returns Network I just yeah I love doing these these episodes for everybody I want to continue to hear my voice shoot on over to the Skaternest Podcast Network and listen to everything E-Society and then shoot on over to Anchor but you got more E-Sciety

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Fuck the Raiders and the 49th. But anyway. Yeah, that's it, everyone. Definitely come back and listen for more. So until then, please be safe out there. And party on. Yeah, everybody be good to each other. Wear your mask.

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