The Horror Returns - THR’s 31 Days Of Horror Part 3

Episode Date: October 28, 2023

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It's been good having Nez. So we'll start with 16. I've got a little one asleep in the other room. It's been watching Disney documentaries with her. Five years old and she explained to me and AJ what the importance is of an exclamation mark. She's teaching me things I don't know. So she's going to be as smart as smart as a whip, man. And we were watching a couple of documentaries. We just watched one about the making of the Disney. Haunted Mansion. Okay. And she was just mesmerized. And like, you know, normally kids when they're watching like interviews and shit like that, they tune it out. She's watching interviews with the old original Imagineers. And she was just like, just mouth open, man. It's really cool. So, all right, man, number 16, you want to go first? All right. Number 16, I believe this was on your list.

earlier on and that shutters elevated game. Okay. You got around to it. So is it as bad as some other people or haters are saying or are you with me that it was kind of a fun watch? I enjoyed it more than I didn't like it.

It surprised me. It was a little bit more on the lower budgeted side as far as as production. It kind of took me off guard. Story was fine. You know, one of these little younger people trying to do one of these

internet things that they've heard about so I thought that was fine different one I haven't heard of the elevator elevator game so it was fine cast didn't bother me it's just the production was a little bit more on the lower budgeted side than I expected I get it I get it it

it sound like you're more with the majority man most people that that I'm talking to are like oh man that that was lame I'm probably right there in the middle I don't remember who it was I was listening to but they really took a dump right on it man Was it the geeks? I don't remember

I know Phil didn't like it He talked about it Oh, that's who it was It was Phil, okay, that's right Where would you put it man, right? Dead center or what? I'd give it a five Fair enough, all right

So Not not super recommended then, to be honest. I mean, if you got shutter and you want to throw on something in the background while you do something, sure, why not? Because it's got a story. It doesn't need your full attention. All right. There you get, man.

Well, I'm, let me move on to my number 16. I decided to check out a documentary. Have you heard of this one? Monster. I got to read the whole thing. It's a long title. Monster Inside. America's most extreme

haunted house. Does this ring a bell? Hulu, right? Yes, it is on Hulu, and this is the story of Russ McCamey that runs Macaamy Manor. I think I've mentioned it a couple of times on the show.

I think so, yeah. So you've got to sign a 47-page waiver just to go in and certain things in there like, you know, we're not responsible for head trauma, loss of teeth, loss of fingernails, waterboarding. Stuff like that. I'm not signing anything like that.

Well, remember Philip? Remember what Phil said? When we brought it up with Phil? Phil said, he said, I'd kick somebody's ass. But you can't, because this McKinney dude gets it set up where he's got all these henchmen around him. And they've got you fucking bound and gagged and handcuffed and shit. And you can't do a goddamn thing, man. so I don't know man I'm with you there ain't no way I'm gonna take part in something like that you know 47 pages long that's sketchy to me yeah well the documentary Brian wasn't wasn't what I was hoping for because I was I really first of all I thought it was gonna be kind of a dramatization of it

like somebody playing the part of McCamey and you know like a Dane DeHaan type character Oh gosh. And it wasn't. It was a, it was a, I call it almost like a, like a, an attack piece. Because basically they took four people that, that went through the haunted house. We'll call it that. It's not a real haunt. And they basically all just shit all over McCamey and said what, you know, what an egotistical bastard he is and whatnot.

So, I don't know. I can't, I can't, I can't, recommend it too high. I'll give it about a six. Okay, so yeah, but bottom line, it was really just kind of more of an attack piece on McCamey. It's like all four of these people had an agenda, you know, like the one guy was an ex-military guy, and I think he was just embarrassed, that he was kind of humiliated and tortured in it, whereas he was probably used to being the torturer in his three tours in Iraq. And then you got a woman that she kind of like almost tried to insinuate that he raped her, but yet everything she said she did willingly.

So I'm not sure how that works. So not as good as I was expecting, man, but you won't catch me in Macaamy Manor, but I will give this one a six. Okay. It's worth to watch, man. All the videos they showed were pretty extreme, but it's stuff that's been on YouTube. But it's, yeah, not a bad hour and 45 minutes to spend. if you want to watch a doc. So six on ten. All right, gotcha. Next up is number 17 from me, and that is Dear David. Never even heard of this.

I guess... Here, David. I guess this continues from my last pick into what I guess you would call Internet horror. Okay. I've heard of this movie. BuzzFeed put it out. they made it. I'm sure you're familiar with BuzzFeed. Somewhat. Fill the listeners in that don't know what it is, because I'm only vaguely familiar with it.

They do, like, articles, top ten lists, stuff like that. Oh, yeah. All right. I know what you're talking about now. It's more of like a website then, right? Yeah. And I was not familiar with this. My youngest daughter, she's heard of it. So I guess. guess it's like a thing. I guess the myth goes if you're in a chat group and dear David pops up in the chat group and ask you a question, you can ask him two questions, but don't never ask three or you'll die. Okay, so you got on this kick after the elevator game, didn't you? Yeah. I got you. This one I would definitely recommend over the elevator game.

It's not the greatest movie, but as far as like, like I, like I, I'm going to just call it internet horror. As far as that subject, I thought it did a good job because the guy played the game, essentially, the Dear David thing. And stuff was happening to him throughout the next coming days. And, you know, to everybody else, he just looks like he's just going crazy. And they don't really know what's going on and stuff like that. So I thought they did a good job on it.

Nobody, I didn't recognize anybody as far as acting. So I thought they did a pretty solid job. So this wasn't set as a documentary. This was a drama. No, a dramatization. Yeah, it was a movie. All right. Dear David.

Where is it available? It's out there. One of those, gotcha. I'm kind of teetering between a six and a half and a seven. Not bad. If I had to lock down the score, I'd probably give it a six and a half. Yeah, that's decent. Two-thirds good, right?

Yeah. Okay. Well, I, after this one, I stayed on a documentary trajectory for a little bit. And have you heard of one called The Unbinding? Does that ring a bell? I think I've heard it. I know I've heard of it, but I'm not familiar with it. Well, this is another one of those that I couldn't really find streaming readily.

So it's kind of like, as Nez would say, it's out there. So, Brian, this was kind of a piece of shit to me. Now, the production value was very good. The photography was really good of the, like you got a lot of pen and scan type scenes where you've got the little New England village that they're in and the camera goes around

and shows like an old church and older buildings and older houses and stuff like that. But I don't believe a word any of these people are saying basically you've got a guy that was kind of you know i guess he was sort of raised as sort of a baptist uh bible thumper type fella yeah and so he kind of i guess he first got into the occult by studying the bible and and then from there he he kind of i guess sort of got this crush on a enough if it was a girl that he went to school with or just knew through social circles but she was wicken, like she was a witch practicing.

So he got together with her, and, dude, I mean, this is really cheesy, Brian. This was pretty bad, man. Like, the way that he narrated the story was like, I never really believed in the occult, and 99.9% of the ghost calls that were called out to were fake, but this one really got my attention. Let me tell you all a story.

Gather around the campfire kids. boy it was bad man I don't think it'll make my bottom list just simply because I don't feel like I can fairly judge it just because I'm not like a big fan of these you know ghost hunters on travel channel and that type of thing

but if you really if you really feel like you need to see this movie just go watch Ghost Hunter episode on the travel channel you'll get the same thing you know lots of hype lots of verbiage but like so I'll give you an example there's one scene where

this little totem creature that they have that they called the crone why i have no idea because they thought it looked like an older woman and had someone had put nails in the eyes and a noose around it somebody found it out in the cat skills and sent it to him to study and there's one scene where this crone statue is sitting there and like stuff in the room is moving like you can see posters flapping oh and of course he's got all these posters around like i want to believe you know and pictures of UFOs. I think you know where I'm going here, Brian. Yeah, I got it. So you kind of can see it move, but it's like, of course it was at nighttime, right? So you've only got the night vision on it. But you kind of can't see it move.

I don't know. That sums it up. I give this one a three, man. This is just a bunch of exposition and hype and like almost nothing happens. Like literally nothing fucking happens. So Not my cup of tea, man. All right. Number 18 for me is a zombie movie called Heard. Like a herd of zombies. Yes, I have heard of this one. So what do you think?

I was bored out of my mind. This is... Oh, no. I think it was Matt that was asking me on Facebook. Okay. I think I told him this was like a really... boring episode of the Walking Dead that they turned into a movie.

Oh, no. Wow. So that's two strikes already. Yeah, it's nothing you haven't seen before. Like this lady and her wife, they go on a camping trip to kind of fix their relationship, you know, get some time alone. Right. One of them gets injured.

They have to get help. And that's when they're trying to, when they run into people, that's when they find out the zombie apocalypse has happened. Sounds promising. I mean, you know, that's a great setup. But as the walking did very excellently, the zombies were very secondary in this movie. There was just a bunch of shitty people that you knew were going to die.

Oh, yeah. And it was more like a drama, Lance, just like this relationship with these people. then you got the one guy that was just kind of a shitty person and you know he just kept saying saying to him he was saying all the right things and making all the right moves and you're just like it's just shitty people that you're waiting for to get eaten and of course you got the the other group of humans that are coming in to take their stuff of course you know they're they're more militarized of course they are And I was just watching it. I'm like, this is like an episode of The Walking Dead. It's just you just put in different characters in place of the ones that we know. A particularly bad episode. And you know, Lance, the acting wasn't bad or anything.

The zombie makeup wasn't bad. It was just boring. Well, I haven't seen it, but I did put, you didn't get me interested enough to pull it up on IMDB. And I will tell you, the very first user review just simply says, turd now you know me I'm positive okay

I'm not gonna call people's movies shit or trash because I'm just right watching movies I'm not making movies it's well made decently acted effects were okay

it's just because of the walking this like I said I'll say one more time this is like a boring filler episode of the Walking Dead that they just

extended it to an hour and a half Why would they, why would they do that, man? I don't know if they thought the story was going to drag people in. Oh, no. Oh, no. And they've got the guy, they've got the guy that ended up killing all the innocent people from Brooklyn, 45 in it? Yeah, he's in it.

Oh, no. Okay. Wow. Well, I'm going to keep this one off my list. Is this going to make it to your bottom 10 or is it, it can't be that bad? You know, I think I'm having the same good problem that I had last year. Okay. I think my bottom 10 will be consistent of movies that normally wouldn't be in my bottom 10.

I'm thinking the same thing, man. I'm thinking the same thing. Like I said, not poorly made or anything, but just offer entertainment value. This could slide in at the top. Okay. All right, Heard. Not to be confused with Amber Heard. You know what?

I watch stuff with her in it. I don't hate Amber Heard. Okay. Well, yeah. She's easy on the eyes, right? I don't got to talk to her, nothing. I might leave a turd on your pillow, but, you know. I'm a pillow.

Okay. It's all Johnny's. All right, number 18. Would you give it? Oh. I was really bored. So four and a half. Okay, that's higher than I expected.

So we're on number 18 now. Yes, sir. We are making our way through the month. So I watched a movie. I just randomly pulled up because I was in the hotel room, so I didn't really have my normal services through my TV. So I just kind of had to watch something through my phone. So I really didn't want to watch a couple of the ones.

I'm really looking forward to that I'll talk about a little later because I wanted to see him on a bigger screen. So I randomly picked something on screen box called HebeGBTV. Have you heard of this? Yes, I have. Okay. So this is the tale of two movies to me. Okay. So first of all, you've got the short segments, kind of like the fake commercials that they do and stuff like that that are basically zero budget.

And as a result, quite frankly, pretty endearing. I actually really enjoyed those little segments. And you could tell that it was a passion project for somebody because they probably had about, oh, I don't know, $10,000 or last to make the movie. And they kind of gave it their all. And they had some pretty cool, corny jokes, you know, and stuff like that. And, you know, decent computer. I'll put it to you this way.

The computer animation in it. at least it was from the heart of the people that made it unlike all this CGI fire that you see in the multi-million dollar productions these days so that part of it I really enjoyed um but when you got to this one segment Brian that was like about a 40 minute long segment that was the feature film they were kind of trying to do the grindhouse style it was called the night eater okay and it's basically about a guy who's going on vacation in a month or whatever. So he's on a real strict diet, right? So he's got a boss at work that he'll be in there eating a salad at his cubicle. And, you know, kind of like office office space style, the boss comes in and leans over his cubicle. It says, hey man, we're all going down to get some big juicy burgers and shakes. You want to come? Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot you're on a diet. Well, that's okay. Keep it chipper. So it's like, okay, this is kind of funny, you know, it's kind of cute. But basically the premise is that this dude will like wake up in the middle of the night and go into his fridge and rate it eat like a sandwich. Brian, that's literally the movie.

Sounds amazing. So, yeah, really, really, really got boring after about 10 minutes and I had to sit through 40 minutes of that. So I got to give, I got to give credit to the filmmakers. you could tell that, you know, these people were all just doing it for fun. They probably got paid nothing to be in the film. They just wanted to do it. And there were some pretty good shoutouts at like exploitation, 80s and 90s-style horror. So for all that, I'm going to give it a six, man.

The feature film in it was worth kind of fast-forwarding through. But all the fake commercials and infomercials and stuff like that were a lot of fun, man. I would watch it. I'd give it a shot. Why not? Nice. All right. Moving on to 19.

My 19th pick was a very light on the horror. More on the, you ever heard of the genre? This is not what it is, but it reminded me of the genre, kids on bikes movies. Absolutely. Yeah, like,

usually like during the 80s. Yeah, Stranger Things, Goonies. Yeah, when we were able to ride bikes around without our parents. freaking out. Yeah. It's not exactly that because they're like late teens, early 20s, kind of, I never

really pinpointed what their age was. And it's a movie called Monsters of California. Another one I haven't heard of, man. Directed and I think maybe also written by Tom DeLong from Blink 182. No kidding. Okay. I'm intrigued.

I'm intrigued. Okay. I'm not going to spoil it. It has to do with the UFOs, Bigfoot. Philipson. Paranormal stuff. Because from what I understand, Tom, is very big into the paranormal UFOs. Philip, Philip has mentioned this before, Brian. Yeah. And because after.

Brought this up. Okay. Yeah, after watching the movie, I just looked up a couple of things. I guess he's organized like Bigfoot search parties. And when he's on tour, riding his tour bus, they'll make stops because he wants to look at the skies to see if he sees anything. Like he's just, I guess he's just been into that kind of stuff since he was like a kid. At least he's passionate about it, right?

Yeah. The movie, it was, it was pretty decent. I felt it ran a little bit too long. It was almost two hours. I think they cut a good 20 minutes out of it. Kind of made it around 90 minutes. Essentially, it's a kid. He's, I can't.

I don't know. See, I feel we were calling him a kid because he almost felt like he was the early 20s. I'll just say a teenager. Kind of like John Travolta in Greece, huh? Yeah, him and his friends. 30-something-year-old playing a high school kid. Yeah, him and his friends are, they're into looking for paranormal stuff, UFOs, Bigfoot, just all everything. His father got him into it. His father was in the military.

Father went missing one day. And he's just kind of been just like super into this stuff. and also wanting to know what happened to his father. And then we kind of get into what might have happened to his father as he's kind of digging around and stuff. You know, finding stuff of his father's, that was a military top secret stuff that the father wasn't even supposed to have. We know where this is going. Yeah. Okay.

Not a bad movie. All right. What I really enjoyed was him and his two-fold. friends because they felt like genuine friends the way they just kind of talk shit to each other and fooled around and yeah always checking out his hot sister and was just like come on man hook me out with your sister you know it just kind of felt like kind of felt like genuine friends right and i thought that was a good part of the movie um could have did a little bit more on the actual topic.

Like, they very slightly touch on the paranormal stuff, slightly touch on the Bigfoot stuff, and, of course, the main theme was UFOs and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I just kind of wanted a little bit more of that because they kind of were going through, like, his problems at home and stuff like that,

and there was just a certain part of the movie. like you gave me all that information. Stop. Stop going back to it. Stop force feeding me, huh? Yeah, I get it. Stuff's tough at home. His father disappeared and the family kind of fell apart.

And I get it. You know, let's stop bringing it up every 15 minutes. Oh, boy. But, you know what, I'll give it a seven. What? I think I really, I really enjoyed the character. characters. Okay.

It sounds like the dialogue was pretty realistic, too, so that helps. And another movie, I think the only, I only recognize one actor, and that was, I think it, I didn't look it up. I think it was Casper Van Dean, because he's kind of, he's kind of older now. I haven't seen him in it forever, man. Yeah, he plays like the father, because the father, like I said, was in the military, so it's like his old military buddy. And this is, you said it's called Monsters of California.

Yeah. I'm kind of intrigued, man. I'm actually thinking about checking this one out. Yeah, I see what you're talking about. I see a couple of the screenshots here. It's like people that you really haven't seen before. And I thought it was pretty well filmed, actually. Casper Van D.

And Richard Kind is in it. Yeah. I will say I felt like it was it was filmed pretty good I think it was Tom's directorial debut as far as a feature film

so he did better than the guy that's saying mother huh help me out here what was that terrible movie oh God we're going to have to do it as a comment movie I think somebody's going to make us do that when

is a commentary I know this ain't the name But for some reason I want to say erotica. Is that not it? Verotica. Verreta. Okay. So this is a better verotica, huh? Oh, he blows him out the water.

But I will say I still want to watch the cowboy vampire movie he has next, because that just looks ridiculously bad. Is Nick Cage in it by any chance? Because that would put the icing on the cake. Oh, but Devin Sopold. I was in it. Okay. Well, we're going to watch it. You know that.

And Danny Treo. Oh, I'm totally in that. But, yeah, Monsters of California, I give it a seven. I just really like the character. Not so much the backstory on one of them because I felt like they dwelt on it too much. But the character development, I just, I really believe that these were friends. I felt like this was. Tom DeLong and Blink 182, like if they were younger,

hanging out, looking for UFO shit. Yeah, not just a bunch of fake lines that they were kind of like reading off cue cards and stuff like that. Yeah, because I'm sure you've seen movies where this group of friends have been friends for 20 years, and then you're just watching a movie and like, there's no way these two, these cats would ever be friends with each other. At least once a month, Brian.

I see that at least once a month. month. All right. Number 19 for you. Yeah. All right. I'm going to check that one out then. I appreciate the heads up.

Okay. This is one that just came out. I think it helped correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was Shutter. Night of the Hunting. Yep. A good old sniper movie. Pedro talked about this last week.

He's not far off. I don't think I liked it as much as he did. Um, he's right that it's like a flaw, it's flawed characters, which kind of helps add to the drama of it. Um, and I do have to take my hat off to the director for, you know, making almost a two hour long movie that takes place literally inside of a gas station, um, except for maybe the opening 10 minutes or something like that. So, um, you know, kudos to that. Um, I think it got incredibly heavy handed politically. Um, there were, some shots in there. Have you seen that, Brian? Yeah, I'm talking about it here in a couple of picks. All right. So I would say there's a couple shots in there. Like, for example, you got like a

red cap, the baseball cap in the background and an American flag. And you're like, okay, we get it. So, but I mean, I'll say that the dialogue was was pretty decent and for somebody to be able to drag a, drag a two-hour movie out with that small of a setting. I've, I've I've got to give them kudos, man. I'm not as high on it as Pedro, but I'll, I'll give it a strong seven, man. I enjoyed it. It's a good watch, good watch. All right, moving on to number 20.

This is, we talked about it on the last episode of the horror turns. I watched shaking shivers and found out that it technically is not a 20-23 release. That's okay. So I had to pivot real quick, and I noticed Netflix is showing. this. I don't know if they started this month, but they're doing horror short films on there. Yes, I saw something called

Disco Inferno. It's like 18 minutes. That's the one I checked out. And you can pass on this one. Oh, no. Production. How do you fuck up an 18-minute movie? Production is good. Acting is good. It's just, I don't know what

was going on in the story. It takes place at a disco. Okay. But I think the lady had something prior happened to her because it seemed like she was maybe possessed by something or something was trying to possess her and she kind of

leaves the disco yeah she kind of leaves the disco to go to the bathroom and then it almost like things like switch and it's like I just use this as an example it's not exactly what happens like she went into the further

like she was in a alternate reality of what of what like she was still at the disco but nobody was there and everything was like dimly lit it sounds it sounds phenomenal it's it's well made it's just i have no idea what was going on maybe i just wasn't paying attention well maybe they should have made it 19 minutes yeah and then it kind of it had a little exposition christopher nolan style and then it kind of ends kind of on a cliffhanger and i'm just kind of like was like what the fuck does that mean? Okay.

But like you said, the movie is 18 minutes. If you have Netflix. All right. I think they dropped a few other ones that I'll probably end up checking out on there. Uh-huh.

Because I don't know, maybe if this was part of a series of shorts, maybe I just didn't watch it in the right order or something. Maybe it'll lead into something else then. Yeah, because when I found out there was others on there, I'm like,

Maybe I watched what was supposed to be like the second or third entry in the series or something. But if it's just a single set story, then I don't know what was going on. Fair enough, man, fair enough. If I had to rate it, I, production was good, acting was good, six. Not bad. I mean, better than half, better than half, right? Yeah. All right, look, for my next movie, I dived back into documentaries to see if I could finally get one right.

But before I do, a little bonus. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, bonus announcement. I was true to my word, Brian. I did check out. I made up for my Friday the 13th debacle. And I did check out Never Hike Alone 2. Is that what it's called? Yes.

And not my cup of tea, man. Sorry, guys. I know y'all love it, but I'm just not, look, I love the campiness. Like, probably my favorite of the Friday of the 13th movie was the 3D one, because I love the cheesy, you know, sticking the knife through the shower curtain and that kind of thing. There was one of them that, where it took place at a barn that I really enjoyed, was that number two? Where they were like, they went down to a bar in town and they met up with people, and then they went back to a bar. barn and like somebody fell out of the front of the barn and got hanged or something like that. Yeah.

Maybe that was part three. I don't know. It's kind of early on in the series. Yeah. It's all the blur. All right. So my takeaway from this movie is that obviously, you know, Jason is immortal. And obviously Tommy Jarvis is also immortal.

Because you got like a fucking 70 year old dude getting hit with arrows. getting whacked upside the head, getting left for dead, and he's still breathing at the end of the movie. So, is there something going on that I'm not catching? Like, is there a supernatural aspect to why Tommy Jarvis

hangs in there? Is he just there because he's, like, part of the mythology? Well, I mean, we forgive Ash for taking all the damage he does. Yeah, true. All right, well, we'll leave it at that. But at the end of the day, I did enjoy it more than I didn't.

And for a fan film that this guy literally got people to just send money so he could make the movie, I'll give it a six and a half. Nice. Out of respect for what the guy accomplished. So my next movie is a documentary that I finally think they got right. And this was called The Devil on Trial on Netflix. So yes. Yes, this is the documentary. version of Conjuring Devil Made Me Do It, which was basically a piece of shit.

This one, I think, got it right, man. This was, it was a good documentary. It told it from all sides. So you got basically one person that they interviewed that completely believed that completely believed that it was Satan. You've got another person in the same family that they interviewed that said, these people are all full of shit. They made everything up.

You know, and then you got some opinions in the middle. So this is a good solid documentary. and I would highly recommend it, and it goes a lot into the Warrens, and you do get to see a lot of their occult collection in different parts of the movie. So I give this one a strong seven and a half. Nice. Solid documentary on Netflix. So it did what the movie didn't do.

Correct. Correct. All right. Number 21 for me. You just brought it up, the night of the night of the. the hunted. Yes. I have nothing much more to say. I completely agree with you.

I did feel it was getting a little heavy-handed on some of the stuff they were saying. But I... Sorry, my dog's scratching at the door. It adds to the show, Brian. I get what they were trying to do as far as the plot they were trying to set up. And I thought it worked well all completely. But like you said, majority of the movie was shot in a gas station. And as far as some of the gore was pretty, pretty good, too.

Yeah, not bad, man. Not bad. Yeah, I'm going to agree with you on score of seven. Nice, nice. All right. So what are we moving on to now? 21. Yes, sir.

Wow, we are moving right along. Okay, this one's going to be, this is one of the ones that I very specifically waited to see until I could get a bit. bigger screen and this I actually enjoyed so much I watched it twice within about three days time and this is a little meeting called Cobweb. Have you seen it yet? I watched it around the time it came out and I think a couple days ago the family sat down and watched it. We were sitting down for a family movie and I was like well it's October watching a horror movie. There you go. What was your takeaway? What was your takeaway? What? What was? what were your thoughts about it? I wanted a little bit more out of it,

but I thought as far as performances, Homelander, Anthony Starr, looked like a complete psycho. Yes, he was basically Homelander playing Homelander, wasn't he? And Lizzie Kaplan. Oh, my God. It's like, it fit. Now, don't get this the wrong way.

It fit the movie. It's like her character was in another world, the way she was acting. Okay. And this kind of, um, Goody Two Shoes type, you know, proper.

Mm-hmm. We do everything the right way. We don't, you know, nothing negative, everything positive. But, you know, deep down, there's something going on. And it's just, she, she just played that character.

Like, she's not all there. She's living in a complete fantasy world, the way, coming off and handling certain situations. And I thought the kid was pretty decent too. I did too, man. I did too. I liked everybody in this.

I like the fact that they kind of turned what you thought characters' motivations were sort of like on their ear. And like come to find out that there were people that you thought were maybe sinister, that maybe there was something good to them, as it turns out. But I don't know, man. well-acted, a good movie. It was complicated enough that, like I said, I did watch it

twice because I just want to make sure I hadn't missed anything there at the end. And I'll give this one a good, a good strong seven and a half. It's probably not quite a top 10 for the year, but it's damn close. It'll be mentioned.

Definitely enjoyed it. I like the twist at the end. And it fits in good with Halloween set during Halloween. Yes, it does. Yes, it's correct. I wasn't even expecting that. All right. Moving on to number 22. Now, this is, my list is going to take a drastic turn downhill from here on out. No. No. All right. Well, let's knock this one and one more out. And then, and then we'll have to wrap up after that. Are you okay with that?

Yep. Number 22, Natty Knox. No, I've heard bad things, man. From the director of Halloween 4. Now, they... Okay, that's right. They threw that out there. The director of Halloween 4, Dwight Little, starring Daniel Harris, Bill Mosley.

Yes, yes. Robert England. Should be a masterpiece, man. It is not. It is a mid-level story, mid-level act outside of those people i just named they did they did excellent i love seeing daniel harris i really i'm hoping when they whatever next they do with the hollinois franchise i i want her involved if not as the same character as a different character because she really loved

yeah i love daniel harris bill moseley is always awesome robert england whenever he plays acts in something other than freddie krueger it's like there's like there's like touch a class added to the movie. And he seems to ham it up. Am I right? Yeah. Oh, he was, I can tell they all had a good time in this movie. Okay.

But the story was generic. And then there's the actual, I'm doing quotes, Natty Knox character. When she pops up throughout the movie, it is the worst effects that I've ever seen. Really? That's strong words. Brian. Like if somebody would turn and look in the mirror and she would like be in the reflection of the mirror, I'm like, that's completely obviously not in the mirror. It looks so just CGIed onto the mirror. It was ridiculous. Like going through the haunted mansion at Disney World or something. Yeah. And then there was some bad acting. And the main little girl in it started out, I was like, I kind of like her. And then as the movie progressed, I'm like, damn, shut up. Someone shut this kid. up.

Like worse than Mimi from Psycho Gorman? No, Mimi, I never thought was irritating. I thought she was hilarious. Okay. She was doing the little kid overacting thing. Oh, no. Like

Philip used to talk about Lulu Wilson, is that her name? The next girl? She's under Lulu Wilson now. This is rough, man. This is rough so that was uh what was that number 22 netty knox sure okay and you give it what a uh three a three okay uh man well my number 22 i don't really know how i can rate it it's called death metal

had to watch a little to be movie because i'm like okay got to check out at least one two be original to throw a little love at scott and heather because they're always covering two be originals and throw a little love at our Australian friends who do the Tuesday show. Brian, this movie started out with a heavy metal song and proceeded to do nothing but like people playing like little flutes and acoustic guitars around a campfire and a convoluted story that makes no sense. I'm almost embarrassed to say it's going to end up on the bottom 10, but I don't see how it can't um there's no battle in death battle brian it's a it's a two on 10 i think i got a screener

for it a year ago and watched it and i think i said i think i said something back then not enough death and not enough metal and there you go that'll be that needs to be on the box all right uh so we're going to stop at number 23, so my final movie I'm going to talk about this episode. I was really looking forward to this one when I heard about it earlier this year. It's called

In My Mother's Skin. I don't think I've heard of it? It's from the Philippines. A lot of the reviews I heard were pretty good. One stood out to me. It said

Guillermo del Toro meets the conjuring. That's what they describe that's that would get my attention for sure it's set during World War two times in the Philippines okay families kind of trapped a rich family's kind of trapped at their mansion they need to get help to get to safety the father leaves to go talk to the Americans to see if they can help so he leaves his family alone and that's when all the supernatural stuff happens that's when hell breaks loose there's a few moments where I'm like

Yeah, that's a little del Toro-ish stuff going on. But it's like typical conjuring-esque movie stuff. Like, I didn't, I was really disappointed. I wanted more del Toro. Because when you tell me Del Toro meets the conjuring, I'm sold. Yeah, that's strong words, man, right there. It's visually good. Okay.

The acting's good, especially the main, the little girl. She did a phenomenal job. I think she was a teenager. It was supposed to be a young girl. Okay. She did a phenomenal job. But it's just everything I was watching in the movie, I was just like seen it, seen it before. You're showing me nothing new.

That's too bad, man. Yeah. So, but if anybody does want to check it out, I give it a six. It's called the skin of my mother. Oh, that sounds like weird movie. In my mother's skin. In my mother's skin. And it's on prime.

All right, well, I probably won't watch it, but thanks for the heads up, man. Yeah, if anybody doesn't want to watch it, it's on prime, and it is subtitled. All right, well, look, man, I'm hoping that our next episode goes up in quality a little bit, because I'm also going to end on a sour note. Oh, no. My 23, number 23 here, yes, right? We are. We got to keep it straight now.

This is a little movie that I like to call flashlight in a cave for two hours. I think I know where you're going. Or jittery flashlight in a cave for two hours. I think I know where you're going because I think me and Philip also went to the same cave with a flashlight. Why did they say? Was there evidence that there were aliens? involved or was that speculation? I went on

the well first tell us what movie just this is a little movie that they called the outwaters okay when I watched it it was kind of on the level of skinnamarink where I felt like there was something there very skinnamarinky

something there that maybe I'm just missing and I went on a deep dive okay okay and there's a lot of fan theories of minor spoilers everybody like the loud explosions in the background sure that you're hearing was an invasion happening sure why not man why not sorry dude the the only i mean there was a gory section where somebody's walking around and you can barely see like with the flashlight jittering around you can barely see like his guts falling out and he's like walking around with his intestines and

saying the Lord's Prayer or something. Did you enjoy the tiny little spotlight of the flashlight? Brian, this movie is a one and a half on 10, okay? This was a fucking piece of garbage to me. But you see, the weirdest thing is I can't disagree with anything you're saying, but this movie will not be in my bottom 10. Oh, it will be in mind. That is Skinnery.

As much as I didn't like Skinnamarink, Okay. I still understand that maybe there's something. These are the times when I really wish that we had a little bit more pull and we can talk to these directors. We probably could pretty easily, dude, to be honest with you. As a matter of fact, five nights at Freddy's, Emma Tammy directed and co-wrote it. Dude, Jay and I interviewed her for The Wind. Yeah, that was, that was, I remember, I remember,

Speaking to people to get her to get an interview, I had to jump through hoops on that one. I know. And that was a good one, man. We probably could, but I don't think the directors of the Outwaters would want to talk to me. I'd pull a Philip with a guy with a green hair or purple hair or whatever. Classic moment. Oh, on that note, shall we commence again in a few more nights? Yep.

Okay. All right, well, that covers another installment. We may have one. We may have two more, shorter ones. But Brian, I guess, until the horror returns again. Good night. Oh, on that note, shall we commence again in a few more nights? Yep.

Okay. All right, well, that covers another installment. We may have one. We may have two more. shorter ones, but Brian, I guess, until the horror returns again. Good night.