The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - $1M Lewis Mountain Rancher Sold For $835K; What Will Be Outcome For This Lewis Mtn Home?

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

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So what's going to happen to that Lewis Mountain neighborhood house? We'll talk about that today on the I Love Seville show. Thank you kindly for joining us. My name is Jerry Miller. It was listed for a million dollars. It was marketed and promoted for its upzoning opportunity and upside. What I think is going to happen to 303 Alderman Road, ladies and gentlemen, is a $2 million single-family house waiting to happen. I'm going to pick this apart, one of the most talked-about listings of 2024,

certainly on the I Love Seville show. I'll give props yet again to Luke Cole of Logan Foster Charlottesville for getting this deal done. There's a lot we're going to cover on the program. Like Dr. Matthew Haas. Is he capable of navigating political landmines better than any single person in central Virginia? Any single person who can navigate political landmines better than Dr. Matthew

Haas, the superintendent at Alamo County Schools, will have that topic on the show. I got a programming note for you. We received an email from Shelly Norden. And Shelly Norden is part of the school board member alliance that launched last year. This is the group that formed that most of the public schools that are leading the Virginia School Board Association, the VSBA, because the schools, what is it, Orange County was one, Judah? Yeah. Was Rockingham the other? Orange County, I think, oh think the other one was yeah I think you're right this is the new organization that the schools are

heading into this organization reached out to me via email because they watched our interview about the vsba losing membership they want a seat at our table in our studio to talk about their organization, the School Board Member Alliance. They launched in January of 2023. They have highlighted that attacks against their organization are increasing

as more boards are voting to leave the VSBA. They asked to do an interview with us on the program, and we gladly will roll out the red carpet and welcome the School Board Member Alliance. This interview could happen as early as tomorrow. Look at your inbox, Judah. Shelly Norden has indicated she could come on any time after 1 p.m. tomorrow.

If we cannot get this organization on the show tomorrow after 1 p.m., I am not opposed to an interview on Friday or next Tuesday. I would prefer the interview in person if we could swing that, Judah, but we can also do it via Skype as well. It sounds like the executive director is willing to come on the program as opposed to the outreach chairwoman, Shelley Norton, who reached out to us after watching the I Love Seville show. Stay tuned. I guess they would be a rival to the Virginia School Board Association.

Right? Yeah. Rival, another option. An organization created because they thought the Virginia School Board Association was too woke, right? Yeah, too liberal. Too liberal and too left and too woke. We'll talk about that and see if we can book that interview maybe as early as tomorrow. On today's program, we will talk about the uh republican race between mcguire and good

too close to call a recount yeah you're talking too extremely extremely conservative some would call perhaps radical conservatives in a neck and neck race in the fifth district we'll talk about that on today's show i'll tell you what i wouldn't get within five feet of lake anna right now right people are getting e-coli left and right in lake anna and it ain't good are you checking the feed we got a consistent stream over there or is it choppy it's probably probably because of this realtor website that I'm X-ing out of now. Okay, please, please. Got some chop on the feed viewers and listeners are telling us about.

We'll talk on today's program about Albemarle County and EV chargers no longer are free. You have in the headline Albemarle County and City Hall EV chargers. You're talking about the electric vehicle chargers that were previously free in Albemarle County and at City Hall are no longer free? As far as I know, it's the chargers at City Hall. Okay, you got Albemarle County in there

in the headline. City Hall is Charlottesville. Okay, let me double check that. Okay, not Alamaro County, so we need to clean that up potentially. All right, a lot I want to cover on today's program. We also have Mel Walker, honored by the Virginia State Senate, and we welcome you, the viewer and listener, with some perspective and some questions, some ideas for topics we can cover on today's show.

I want to talk about the presentation to council on houseless, the homeless, I guess that's state of the union in the city. This is a topic that you wanted to talk about and set the stage on. So Judah Wittkower, the show is yours here. On topic number one, Seville Council updated on homeless needs.

Yeah, I mean, a bunch of the nonprofit organizations that do, frankly, great work around Charlottesville, I'm sure extremely overworked and underpaid gave their assessments to city council. And I mean, I don't think any of it was very surprising. We don't have enough beds for the homeless people and they all need more money. I mean, we know that in particular groups like Pacham, they kind of jump around between a lot of the churches in the area. They were at our church a few months ago. And Potchum is pretty much packed in whatever capacity they are

working at. And something needs to be done. I think former Mayor Lloyd Snook asked that same question. I'm going to continue to offer the same suggestion I've offered every time this topic comes up on the show. Albemarle County, City of Charlottesville. How about you pool your economic resources, some taxpayer dollars, and do a joint venture? And you create some kind of campus, a campus that offers support and a hand up, not a handout, but a hand up to those that are houseless or on the brink of being houseless. You can have cots, beds, laundry facilities, showers, a computer lab,

resume services, addiction counseling, clothing, food. I don't know if I've ever heard something like this before, and so maybe it's just a dumb idea but why not how is an idea that galvanizes taxpayer dollars for the benefit of community members that are struggling that don't have housing provide them food help them with addiction if addiction is an issue drug and counseling resume services professional counseling counseling, clothing, make sure that they are not relapsing with drugs and alcohol if they want to stay in this particular campus or shelter.

How is this a dumb idea? And I can assure you that this exists. This is not a new idea. I wasn't talking about your idea. You cut me off before I finished. I was saying I've never heard this before, and what I was going to say is, what about putting homeless people to work in some capacity? I mean, give them a way to earn

money. I mean, you know, some of them are, you know, I would rather have a place to go where I could do something, earn some money, rather than, I mean, who would honestly want to just sit or stand on an island in 90 plus degree heat? It can be 100 degrees potentially this weekend in the area. Yeah. Even hotter when you're standing next to asphalt and no shade. Yeah. Wouldn't it be nice if there were,

I mean, I don't know what work could be found for them. Here's a straightforward question. What has been done of merit? I don't know. In the last two, what has been done of tangible merit? I don't know. In the last two, what has been done of tangible merit? You've converted a hotel

to shelter. You got something coming up in Belmont. I love to see tangible proof of performance of what has done and the results that have come from it.

That's what I'd love to see. That's what I would be asking if I was on council. If I give you this money, what are the results that come from it and the time frame that you need? That's what I'd like to see. City Council kept up to speed with what's going on. This next topic is one that I think is very much in our wheelhouse. Lower thirds need to be put on screen, please. What's topic number two? Judah Wachauer set the stage with some PTI headers. One million dollars.

One million Lewis Mountain Ranchers sold for 835K. Okay, and you got pictures from the listing? I've got to convert them, but I'll have them in a little bit. You just need to put one up, a couple up. I know you're doing a lot of things over there, and I appreciate the Jack of All Trades doing a lot of things.

We have a little clarity now. I'm going to give props to the listing agent again. I've interacted with him a few times on Facebook. I've extended an invitation to Luke Cole of Loggin Foster to come on the program. He had a listing in the Lewis Mountain neighborhood, which is a Tony and Posh neighborhood, a neighborhood of a million three, a million four and up sales routinely. We've had a number, a handful of sales in Lewis Mountain this year alone that fit that million three and million four up moniker. He came out

of the gates with a $1 million asking price for this home. And give me an indication when the photo is on screen so I can tell people to take a look. 303 Alderman Road. Three bedroom, one and a half bath, a 1,900 square foot rancher on a lot 0.31 in size. Well, it's now officially closed and the closing price is $835,000. The buyer of this house is not someone that's going to live here.

The buyer of this house, you can look at the Charlottesville GIS, is Evergreen Home Builders. Evergreen has a fantastic reputation. You can rotate the two lower thirds on this topic on screen. Evergreen. Pictures up. The picture's on screen. Take a look for the house we are talking about,

ladies and gentlemen, right now. Evergreen's got a great reputation. I'm asking this question. What do we think is going to happen to this house? The real estate agent, Luke Cole, marketed and promoted this house during the listing window as he should have. He promoted it, he marketed it, he branded it with its upzoning potential, transitioning from R1 to RB zoning. He says in his listing, which is still online, developers are allowed a baseline of six units,

which increases to eight if the existing home is retained and can expand to 12 units for projects including affordable housing. So he's saying, look, there's potential here to build density in the Lewis Mountain neighborhood. I would even venture to say that most of the Lewis Mountain neighborhood is following this listing very closely because they know this neighborhood, Lewis Mountain, a posh and tony neighborhood of million-dollar houses, two-million-dollar houses, three-million-dollar houses, they know that they are in the eye of the storm

when it comes to upzoning and a radical change in what could be the dynamic and landscape of a traditionally very posh single-family detached neighborhood close to everything. Could this neighborhood become dense housing, apartments, townhomes. Could this neighborhood become dense housing for students, for working class, for middle class folks as the density becomes more prolific? That's what everyone's wondering. What I think is going to happen to this Evergreen House, and I'm curious, viewers and listeners,

what your thoughts are going to happen with this house. I'm curious of your thoughts, Judah Wickauer. I think what Evergreen is going to do is the path of least resistance. And the path of least resistance is taking a home, which they purchased for $835,000. And I think they're going to put a new roof on there. I think they're going to potentially expand it a little bit, maybe double the size of the house. I think they're going to potentially expand it a little bit, maybe double the size of the house. I think they're going to paint it, redo the kitchen, redo the floors, maybe redo a couple of the bathrooms, and make the yard look nicey-nice. And because this is

a builder that's bought it, they have a vertically integrated model that's perfect for houses like this, where they can use their own labor, they can use their own skill set, their know-how to bring this to market quicker than most, bring it to market cheaper than most. And I'm not talking they would use cheap product or cheap materials. I'm talking they're going to do it efficiently because it's their staff, their manpower that works for them. They're just going to keep them busy doing this project. And I think you're going to see this location, this listing, this purchase, this house, this address

turn into something three to four, five months from now that has an asking price of $1.5 million, $1.6 million, $1.7 million, something in that price range. I think you'll see someone put in, you buy it for $835,000. Let's say you put $400,000 into it. That number is probably high. You're at a million 235,000. Let's say you're able to all-in. Say your all-in number is $1.2 million. Then you come on market at $1.6 million.

You got closing costs. You got some real estate fees. You're going to walk with hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hundreds of thousands of dollars after closing on the house at a fantastic price on the 17th of June. That's what I think is going to happen. And when this happens, if it goes this way and this happens, those pushing up zoning and density and the new zoning ordinance, this will be leveraged to say what you said was going to happen pitter-pattered or failed or did not become a reality. I want someone to point to me right now what the new zoning ordinance has done. Give me something right now that the new zoning ordinance has done tangibly

to create additional housing. What the new zoning ordinance did with this particular house was had an $835,000 transaction. If this upzoning upside, if it wasn't marketing with this potential, I don't think this house sells for $835,000. It certainly would not have been listed for a million. It didn't come close to the asking price, a million dollars. You're saying without the zoning, this wouldn't have sold as well? I think if there was no draft zoning ordinance, no new zoning ordinance, no up zoning, no upside, nothing like that. There's not a chance in hell Luke Cole would have listed this house for a million dollars. Not a chance in hell. I would have bet the listing would have come closer to what it sold for 835.

Because it was listed for a million dollars, Evergreen probably paid a little more than they should have. But the reason they paid a little more than they should have is because they see massive upside an a35 acquisition you put 250 to 400 000 dollars into this house you could probably sell this house for a million six a million seven all day every day and twice on sunday isn't that regardless of the zoning if there there was no zoning ordinance, no draft zoning ordinance, no upzoning, nothing like that. This would have started closer to its actual price. Exactly. This would have started maybe with a list price of $835,000, maybe $850,000. And then Evergreen would have been able to purchase it at like $7.25, $7.50, $7.75 because the house needed

that much work. But because he came out of the gate at a million dollars because of the zoning upside, Evergreen had to pay a little more on the front end. I'm going to tell you right now, and then we'll get to your comments, viewers and listeners. John Blair, I see your comments. Deep Throat, I see your comments. This is what I've been saying all along. The upzoning is just going to make the dirt more opportunistic. And as the dirt is more opportunistic, speculators are going to just pay more for the dirt.

And when they pay more for the dirt, they're going to want more on the back end because they paid more on the front end. This is going to backfire on the upzoning fanatics. We'll see what happens. All right, let's get to comments. Number one in the family, his photo on screen, please. He says this.

Oh, man. On the Lewis Mountain house, I think some chance that this becomes two single family houses because it's a corner lot. Can do one house fronting alderman and one on minor. He says, you will have a cost of plans, full site plan review, planning commissioner, SUP approval, and the land at under $150,000 per unit. Given these units will probably sell for $600,000 each. You're talking about a land cost, assuming the plans and other soft costs amount to $50,000 per unit, which is probably conservative at well under 20% of the total sale price, which is damn low. In highly restrictive places,

land costs can be 60% plus. All the zoning did here was cut into Evergreen's profit margin. They felt they might be bidding against multifamily housing developers, so they had to pay a little more up front. But single-family house was still the highest and best and most profitable use.

That's from Deep Throat. Let's go to John Blair. Man, someone blasting the base right now on Market Street. John Blair says, I think, Jerry, you are 110% correct. The Lewis Mountain Rancher is very likely to be a 4,000 to 5,000

square foot remodel. I'm willing to bet that's what happens. Do you likely to be a 4,000, 4,000 to 5,000 square foot remodel. I'm willing to bet that's what happens. Do you want to place a proposition bet, a prop bet on this? No. Why not? You don't want to prop bet multifamily housing or an additional unit built on this, 0.31 acres? I'm not trying to peer pressure you.

No, no. I mean, what I'm wondering is despite the – so how much more goes into – how much more is required when bringing something like this before the board when you're applying for if you want to turn this into an apartment building. That's my point. My point is the path of least resistance.

The quickest way to getting money and profit is to just keep this a single family house. Because otherwise you have to deal with the city. And they have shown themselves to be hard to... Roger Voisinet and Richard Price were on this show doing an interview. Roger Voisinet owns a lot in Woolen Mills. Richard Price is an architect that's experienced and they've partnered with the builder. This Roger Voisinet, a realtor realtor experience one who owns the lot richard price an architect an experienced one who's been basically uh promised a lot below market value

so he won't charge for his architectural services a builder i forget the man's name they said it in the interview has been promised a lot for for reduced for reduced service compensation yeah and Roger Richard and this builder highlight on this show that the path of bringing these units to market in wool and mills utilizing the new zoning ordinance has been arduous cumbersome they figured it out they probably are the most optimized, experienced team to do it, especially being the first-to-market guys that are doing it. They may be giving folks the playbook of what to do,

and still on this show, they said this was a lot of heavy lift. Yeah. If you're Evergreen, I don't know Evergreen from Adam. I know their reputation is very good. And you pay $835,000. $835,000, ladies and gentlemen. And then you have to put somewhere between a quarter million to $400,000 into the project. And I think that's very realistic.

Very realistic, a quarter million to $400,000 into the project. And I think that's very realistic. Yeah. Very realistic, a quarter million to $400,000. At that point, you're at, let's just split the difference between a quarter million and $400,000. And let's call it $325,000. $835,000 plus $325,000. You're at $1,160,000. That doesn't include carrying costs. That doesn't include all the other mumbo-jumbo.

They very easily could be in at this at $1,200,000 before they list this house. Wouldn't you want to get this off your books as quickly as possible and find the easiest way to profit? 100%. And if you list it at $1.6 million, let's say they list the house at $1.6 million.

Very well could be $1.6 million. And let's say at that $1.6 million, if you're offering 3% to your representation, I believe one of the people involved with Evergreen is a realtor, if memory serves correct. So he's probably working on reduced commission. Let's just say if you listed at $1.6 million, after realtor fees and all other fees,

you're walking with 94%. Let's build a conservative model and let's call it 93%. $1.6 million times 0.93. That leaves you $1,488,000. And you subtract the 1.2 million I initially said. If I'm building a conservative model, you're looking at potential profit, meat on the bone, of somewhere between $250,000 and $300,000. And I would bet you the evergreen folks did that kind of back of the napkin number. I have basically a napkin in my hand. I have a pen here. All right, so it. $835K plus $325K gives us $1,160,000 into this property. Let's,

for the sake of argument, build a conservative model. We'll put another $50K into it if the you-know-what hits the fan. We're going to add $50,000 into that. That means we're into this at $1,210,000. Well, what's the list price? Well, the comps would suggest we could probably list this in the neighborhood of somewhere between $1,600,000 and $1,800,000. Let's build a conservative model and say we're going to do that at $1,600,000.

$1,600,000. And let's, in this conservative model, say we're going to walk with 93% of our 1.6. So 1.6 times 0.93 gives us $1,488,000. And we're into it 1,28,000 and we're into it $1,210,000 $1,210,000 $278,000 for that flip. Your walk away. That ain't bad. And then you do it again.

And you do it again. And you do it again. Evergreen, if you're watching this program and after this show, I assure you, if you're watching this program and after this show, I assure you, you're going to watch this program. I would highlight the massive potential of a rancher that is new in the market right now. Just came on the market. It's a few days old. Tim Grossman has the listing in the Wesley neighborhood in Ivy Road. Only house on the market right now in Wesley. This one right here, you could do the same flip that you did in Lewis

Mountain, again in Wesley. It's got an asking price. Timmy Grossman has the listing, $869,900, $2,190, Devonshire Road. Open house on the 23rd of June. This house has significant upside. Anything you want to add to this, Judah B. Wickauer, Jack of all trades, Jack of all wits. I want to highlight Luke Cole again for doing a fantastic job with this listing.

No, I got nothing. No ad? Randy O'Neill, welcome to the broadcast. Kevin Yancey, welcome to the show. He says it's two and a half blocks from Grounds, Kevin Yancey. He says you're due for a haircut, Judah Wittkower. I know. He also says you're not going to go in with builder grade rehab and get that kind of money.

It's not going to be builder grade. They're not going to use builder grade on this, Kevin Yancey. And I agree with you, it's not going to be builder grade. They do, Evergreen does a damn good job. I'm pretty sure Evergreen was the one that just did this fantastic Spanish-style house. It was white stucco house that they renovated and just sold.

They bought a lot, bought a house with a lot next door and they're going to build a new home from scratch next door. Pretty sure that was Evergreen that did that in Ivy. All right, I'm going to follow closely. I'm going to close with this on this topic.

Before I get off this topic, I'm going to say this. If this ends up being a $1.6 million, $1.7 million listing, it is something that the naysayers on upzoning, me being one, I said there's no way upzoning was going to create affordability. John Blair was one. He said there's no way upzoning is going to create affordability. Deep Throat was one. He said there's no way upzoning is going to create affordability. John Blair was one. He said there's no way up-zoning is going to create affordability. Deep Throat was one. He said there's no way up-zoning is going to create affordability. Mr. DL, watching the program, said there's

no way up-zoning was going to create affordability. If this becomes a $1.6, $1.7 million remodeled single family house in Lewis Mountain, this is going to be the first thing we point to that say, see, we told you so. TV station down the street watching us right now. Deep Throat says Evergreen is doing an enormous single family house on Oxford Road right now. I'll check that one out. I would also encourage them if they're watching the program to see the massive potential of 2190 Devonshire Road and I want you to cut this sound

because whoever buys this house is going to buy it for probably $775,800 it's empty right now call it $775-800. You put 200, 250 into it. Then you come on the market for 1,000,003, 1,000,003.50. Sells all day, every day, twice on Sunday.

Next headline, Judah Wickauer is it the Haas headline that's the one I'm most excited about let's see yes set the stage for us and I really want to hear your thoughts on the Haas you want me to set the stage on this

I mean you're able to talk about stuff who navigates politics better than Dr. Haas I mean, you're able to talk about stuff. Who navigates politics better than Dr. Haas? I mean. Who navigates political headwinds, political turmoil involving himself, the organization he works for and leads, the media, taxpayers, the whole kit and caboodle better than Superintendent Dr. Matthew Haas of Alamo County Public Schools. Name me one person in the 300,000 market that we call Central Virginia

that does it better than him. John Blair, give me one. Vanessa Parco, give me one. Logan Wells Claylow, give me one. Vanessa Parkhill, give me one. Logan Wells-Claylow, give me one. Randy O'Neill, give me one. And I'm open-minded to anyone. Judah Wickhower, give me one. Seriously.

The show is yours. The show is mine. Well, I mean, he's headed up the changing of names of schools. He's ignored, locked people in an auditorium to force them to watch a video on... He's talking about Meriwether Lewis, recently rebranded to Ivy Elementary, not quite an auditorium, but the renaming committee. We had a parent on the renaming committee that reached out to us a number of times about what was happening at this renaming committee. This renaming parental committee said we should not change the name. The parents don't want to change. The kids don't want to change. The survey results overwhelmingly say we should not change Meriwether Elementary. The parental committee

that's part of this says we shouldn't change it. We have the votes. We have the surveys. We have the political opinion. We should keep it Merriweather. Haas came in and said, you don't get it. We're going to change the name. And we're going to take a public vote of this parental committee, a vote where everyone knows how you're voting, and we're going to make it private. And before you vote, you're going to watch this video on DEI prior to voting. And we're going to make it a secret ballot. Yeah. That's what happened. And then not long after, I believe it wasn't long after that, he got the board to, didn't he get

the board to extend his contract before? Go ahead. No, go ahead. No, please, please. I'm sorry I'm interrupting. I don't know this. I don't remember the timeline. I remember it vividly. Yeah. Give it to us. Prior to this past November's school board election,

an election where we did not know how the at-large seat would go, Spillman-Brice, the school board, in a very tight window before the school board was going to change, decided to extend Dr. Matthew Haas' contract. Much to the chagrin, even of Allison Spillman, who ended up beating Bryce, she said, what are you doing?

How can you extend this man's contract when a mere short time, it's going to be a completely different board? That's my point. You're looking at a man that is the Teflon Don. You're looking at the Teflon Don here. Who faces more political headwinds than the superintendent of Albemarle County Public Schools? You had the most watched school board race maybe in American history with Bryson Spillman.

You got rebranding and renaming. You got hazing of the JV football team in the locker room that led to arrests. You got anarchy and chaos at Albemarle High School. Sex, drugs, and violence. You got performance concerns when it comes from elementary to middle to high school students reading, writing, and arithmetic. You got third-party consultants being hired to help performance. Taxpayer dollars utilized.

You got parents out of the woodwork calling for his head. You had a bus driver shortage. Literally a bus driver shortage. You had a teacher shortage. You have a teacher union that's materialized.

And dude's all good. Teflon Don. Nearly quarter million a year in compensation. Everything included. everything included you're looking at probably your most capable savvy and sophisticated political virtuoso

in this 300,000 person market there's only one person that can compete with him who is that person Judah Wickhauer Who is that person, Judah Wickhauer? Who is that person, viewers and listeners? Skill set, able to compete with Dr. Haas, with navigating political turmoil directed at him or the organization he works for.

You know this, Judah. I know you know this, Judah. Come on, Judah. I want to give you a flying chest bump and knock you off screen. Judah, you know this. Judah. Come on, Judah. I want to give you a flying chest bump and knock you off screen. Judah, you know this. Judah knows this, viewers and listeners. Who is the only one that can compete with him?

Sorry, I'm drawing a blank. You know this. When I say it, you're going to be like, I should have gotten this. I probably will. You want me to tell you? Yeah. Are you sure?

Yeah. Jim Ryan. Okay. Right? Yeah, I suppose. Makes four times the salary. He's got a board of visitors that's completely split and will be even more split when Yunkin's appointees get on the board

when it comes to their support of Jim, President Ryan. Under his presidential watch, students got pepper sprayed by a militant state police. Students were murdered on his grounds. But did he really handle those situations as ably as he could have? Did Haas handle the situations as ably as he could have? Did Haas handle the situations as ably as he could have? I don't know. The point of this argument is, the point of this topic is,

who can navigate turmoil and headwinds directed at him or her or their organization while maintaining their job and their quarter million to a million dollar a year compensation. No one else can do it better than Haas or Ryan. That's fair. Gurley doesn't face these type of things as superintendent

of Charlottesville. There's not a single person on council that's facing this kind of scrutiny. There's not a single person on the board of supervisors that's facing this kind of scrutiny. City manager Sam Sanders is not facing this kind of scrutiny. County executive Sam Sanders is not facing this kind of scrutiny. County Executive Jeff Richards... I'm sorry, Jeff. Albemarle County Executive...

Jeff Richardson. I'm sorry, Mr. Richardson. They're not facing this kind of scrutiny. Here's the question. Who is navigating it best? Haas or Ryan? That's the sub-question of the main question. Creed Eats ain't facing this kind of stuff.

Katrina Coulson is not facing this kind of stuff. Amy Laufer is not facing this kind of stuff. Amy Laufer is not facing this kind of stuff. Who is doing it better? Hoss or Ryan? Question for you. I mean, in regard to Ryan, I honestly feel like he's saving up something for getting out. But who knows? I'd almost say that Ryan has a little more on his hands

in terms of the board of visitors and the fallout from the student massacre and dude there is no question that Jim Ryan has way more on his plate than Matt Haas. All is quiet on the Western front when it comes to Matthew Haas right now. Yeah.

Summer break. Contract extension. Rebranding and renaming done. Maybe he's got to build a school in the western Alamaro district. A school in the North Feeder pattern, northern Alamaro County. Maybe he's got a little SRO headwind. But we don't have any prolific or attention-grabbing school board races coming up. Right.

So teacher union is pretty much done. Jim Ryan, this summer, might be fighting for his job. Yeah. With Yunkin and four new appointments to the Board of Visitors. When do we find those out? Any day now, right? In the next 10 days.

Yeah. We know who they will be. And I can assure you that they're going to partner behind the scenes with Razorblade Burt Ellis of the Board of Visitors and the Jefferson Council. That's why I make the argument that Haas, look at what he's done. You could make the argument that the last year was the most challenging year he has had

in his superintendent career. Interestingly, it's coincided with Jim Ryan, who's probably its most challenging year of his professional career. In a one-year period of time, the president of the UVA had to navigate a pro-Palestine pepper-spraying pickle. Roughly a one- year period of time, three students murdered on grounds.

They're not releasing the report, the audit of how they handled it. At that same time, you had the Zianna Bryant, Water Street protest, debacle. Yeah. That's a conversation for your cocktail party this weekend.

Who's navigated headwinds better in Central Virginia? It's these two, and who's done it better, Ryan or Haas? What's your next topic? The next ones are yours. Make sure we get the PTIs on if we can, the headers. It's the McGuire-Good, too close to call, 5th District. Republican race close enough for a recount. Who do you guys want? Bob Good? This is a tough one. I, you know.

Whoever wins this is your congressman. You got John McGuire that's backed by Donald Trump. You got Bob Good who wants to be backed by Donald Trump. You got Bob Good who wants to be backed by Donald Trump. You got Bob Good who was thrown under the bus by Donald Trump. Because DeSantis, I mean, it's such a And then Bob Good's got Donald Trump's back

despite being thrown under the bus by Donald Trump. It's insanity. I, you know, I would love Trump. Yeah. It's insanity. I, you know, I, I would love, I know some people have problems with the idea of rank choice voting, but, uh, Sally Hudson's rank choice voting RCV.

I would a lot of people got beef with rank choice voting. Yeah. I think it would make, I think it would make third-party candidates an easier sell. What's happening in the 5th District is a taste, a microcosm, a small sample of what's going to happen in November with a Biden-Trump. Oh, don't remind me. Part two. Yeah. You are left with a ticket of picking. I don't know if anybody is going to be voting best of two evils someone that they actually want or if they're just going to be voting against the person they don't want that's

what i'm saying with trump and biden voters are going to vote not for who they want against who they don't want but who they hate the least. Yeah. And in the fifth district, you're not voting for who you want, but who you hate the least. Politics in 2024 in America, in a lot of ways, we're voting for people we hate the least. Yeah. As opposed to a man or a woman that is inspiring us. That is encouraging us to be better Americans. That was not always the case. I know. And Republicans

and Democrats used to work together. Oh my goodness. We're now voting for people we hate the least. Yeah. It's a sad state of affairs. And in the fifth district... I almost didn't go vote yesterday.

I'm glad you did. I was thinking about it. I was running around, picking up... So can I ask who you voted for? No. Okay. You're right. But... I won't push you on that. But I went there and I was like, man, do I even care?

Like, if it's one guy or the other, do I even care? Is one of them going to be better than the other? Or are they just like different faces on the... Vanessa Parkhill. Janice Coyne. Vanessa Parkhill. Janice Coyne. Vanessa Parkhill. Great suggestion. Get Vanessa's photo on screen.

iloveseville.com forward slash viewer. What's the URL? iloveseville.com forward slash viewer rankings. Vanessa Parkhill, queen of Earliesville, one of our favorites. Number six in the family. She says Dr. Wes Bellamy has navigated political headwinds as astutely as Dr. Matthew Haas and President Jim Ryan. That's. Great suggestion from VP. What you see with John McGuire and Bob Good in the 5th District, Congressional District,

is a sampling of what we will have with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Is anyone inspired by Joe Biden or Donald Trump? You're most likely feeling disenchanted or dispirited or worse. Two old white men who, it doesn't even matter if you think their politics are divisive. I would say that just the names and the personalities are divisive. Because obviously, like we've said, who are you voting for this year?

Whoever I hate the least. Ginny Hu said, my husband got home and forgot to vote. I made him head back out and get it done. You see in the email, Judah, you see in your inbox, viewers and listeners, prepare yourself from this. The email from Shelly Norton in your inbox. Yeah. What did she say?

What did she say 49 minutes ago? What's that? What did she say 49 minutes ago in that email? Can you read that to the viewers and listeners? Oh, let's see. This is from Shelly Norton, SBMA Marketing and Outreach Chair. She says, good afternoon. I just watched your show that addressed school boards leaving the VSBA. We are the group that formed that most of them are now joining. The school board member alliance launched in January 2023. Attacks against us are increasing as more boards

vote to leave the VSBA. We would love to do an interview with you to let Virginians know who we really are and why we started. Please feel free to contact me anytime. And then I respond to her and then she responds right away. And what'd you say? Uh, I only have your response.

Tomorrow afternoon works for me. Anytime after one, would it be possible to have our executive director on the interview too? Please schedule this interview. If we can do it tomorrow, that would be fantastic. Any time after one is tough because we have a Thursday afternoon show. This might be best off

on Friday or Tuesday of next week. Friday or Wednesday of next week because we don't have afternoon shows. Friday of this week or Wednesday of next week. Friday or Wednesday of next week because we don't have afternoon shows. Friday of this week or Wednesday of next week. I want the world to know that there is an alternative to the Virginia School Board Association and it's the School Board Member

Alliance. And I think what we're about to see in Virginia, and I've said this on previous shows, is we're going to see a divide when it comes to education and school systems that choose to be members of either the Virginia School Board Association or perhaps this newly-minted School Board Member Alliance. Orange County has left.

Rockingham has left. If Carly Wagner is watching the program, I won't forget this again, Carly. What was the one your sister, a school board member in Northern Virginia, she led the charge, the first school system in the Commonwealth to leave the VSBA. Carly Wagner's sister led that charge. I believe there's three, three that I know of that I've left. Rockingham County, can you confirm it was Rockingham County? Yeah, it was Rockingham. It was Orange.

Let's see. I'm seeing here the Hanover County School Board is considering ending its membership. Oh, it's considering, then that's not the one. This was from two days ago. Okay. What was the first one? The first that I knew about was Orange. Okay, but there was one in Northern Virginia that Carly's sister led the charge on. She let us know during the show.

I should know this. It's my fault. 100% my fault. All right, next topic. Does anyone know? Put it in the feed. What's the next? I'll find it on the fly here.

You give us the next topic, J-Dubs, because we've got to stay focused. All right, next topic is Lake Anna. Oh, what the heck is going on at Lake Anna? The worst possible time, too. During a heat wave. Oh, Ginny Hoog! Thank you. I love you, Ginny Hoog. Carly's sister was Warren County.

Oh. Oh, and she said, did you see the DM I sent you about Bedford and Isle of Wight leaving, too? No, I did not. Ginny Hoog's making the program better? Do you have Ginny's photo on screen? All right, we should keep track of this list. School boards that have left the VSBA.

Can you write these down? And then we'll create a database of some kind. Tell me when you're ready. All right. Warren County was the first. They were the earliest, yeah. Warren County. Wait, now you see it?

Well, I looked up Warren, and the first thing I see is one of the earliest to decline to renew its membership. All right, Warren County Public Schools. We've got to write that down. Warren County Public Schools. If I write this down, it will help me remember as well. Warren. Orange County Public Schools. What was the other one?

Rockingham. Rockingham. Rockingham County Public Schools. And now. She sent us a DM. School boards that did not renew with the VSBA membership. List as of June 14th. God, Ginny, you just made this so easy for us. Darn it, I should have seen this.

Bedford County Public Schools. Isle of Wright County Public Schools. There's five of them. Isle of... Isle of Wright. I-S-L-E of Wright County Public Schools. I know how to spell isle. It's Wright.

Is it R-I-G-H-T? W-R-I-G-H-T. And I told you the wrong thing. There's no R. W-I-G-H-T. What? Isle of Wight. W-I-G-H-T.

Okay. So there's five. This is multiplying. We said on the show this was going to multiply. I want to know where Louisa County Public Schools stand. I want to know where Fluvanna County Public Schools stand. And I want to know where Green County Public Schools stand. Last week during the show,

we had some news break on the program that Madison County Public Schools was going to stay with the VSBA. That shocked me. What about Nelson? I'd love to know where Nelson County Public Schools stand. They're the one that I would like to see leaving. Louise is more conservative than Nelson. Really? We know Albemarle ain't leaving. Right. We know Charlottesville ain't leaving. Definitely not. And I want to know this question. Will we see parents move into school districts based on their Virginia School Board Association membership or their School Board Member Alliance membership, the SBMA? I am going to ask that question of the executive director

when we interview them on this talk show. Any other topics we need to cover? Let's see. Besides the E. coli, be careful out there. Good night. There was also, you go close to Lake Anna,

you get E. coli. There was also a father and son who were found dead there, drowned. Well, I don't, very tragically. I don't even want to touch that. I believe out of staters.

But man, in the middle of a, in the middle of a heat wave. I was impressed that the Virginia State Senate has decided to honor Mel Walker. Oh yeah. Alright, we'll close on this. Is this the last topic? Yeah. It's 134. The Virginia State Senate,

Cree Deeds led the charge as honoring the late, great Mel Walker of Mel's Cafe. There was also an interesting article in the Seville Weekly about Mel Walker. Really? Honoring his legacy. How long was Walker's cafe open?

Well, we talked about this. I know. He opened it in 19... Let me see if my memory is good. He opened it in 1984. He closed it in 1989. And then he reopened it again. Let's check.

Opened the restaurant in 1984. Five years later, 1989, he closed it. And then in 1995, he reopened it. Interestingly, the Sevillepedia has been updated. I bet you Sean Tubbs made this addition. It says in 1995, he rented the building and reopened the business. Prior, when he initially passed, it did not have he rented the building in there. So the Seville PD has been updated,

and I bet you Sean Tubbs did that update. Nice. A couple of takeaways from the Seville Weekly article. In the Daily Progress story, it quoted Tanisha Hudson, a local activist, and she said in that story that she was the niece of Mel Walker. And the Seville Weekly story that came out today, it highlights that she's known Mel Walker for a while and she calls him his uncle. So she's not really family to Mel Walker. Also in the story, in the Daily Progress story that came out last week,

she said that this was going to completely open again. 100% spoke with certainty. In the CVO Weekly story that came out today, she said that she was taken out of context with what she said about it opening again. And she said it should open again. Interesting. A couple of tidbits there. I'm sure a lot of us were rooting for her.

All of us want it to open again. All of us want it to open again. Yeah. All of us. The likelihood of it opening again every day that goes by becomes less and less though.

Especially with the GoFundMe that's stalled. Has not hit 10K. $20,000 ask. Yeah. And honestly... The real estate's for sale. Honestly, without a plan, I don't see how it would happen. There it is.

Even if somebody owned the land and didn't have to worry about the landlord potentially selling or developing that entire block of real estate, somebody still has to take the responsibility of being in charge and making sure the bills get paid, making sure the payroll gets paid. And you can't just continue on without leadership. Exactly. All right. That's the Wednesday edition of the talk show. Judah Wickauer, Jerry Miller, we'll keep you posted on that interview. Maybe as

early as tomorrow. Tomorrow might be tough though with the Kyle Miller show at 2.15. Because if they can't do it until after 1, I want extended time with this new organization. I would encourage you to try to do the interview on Friday or Wednesday of next week. Yeah, if they can't get here until after 1, they would be— Please, Friday or Wednesday of next week. 20 minutes is not enough. Yeah, Friday or Wednesday of next week.

All right, that's all she wrote. Thank you kindly for joining us. So long. Thank you. Thank you.