The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - A Timeline Of Crisis & Dysfunction At UVA; J Ryan v R Sheridan - Hoos Not Telling The Truth?

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Sewell Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on a Monday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. I hope the weekend treated you well for Virginia sports fans. What a weekend it was. Virginia dazzles in Durham, the Wahoo football team, absolutely dominant against the Duke Blue Devils. And I want you to consider this.

And I'll offer a, did you know, from this weekend, Duke's starting quarterback is on a two-year NIL contract to be the gunslinger of the Blue Devils. And you know, did you know that the Duke quarterback is making $8 million over two years, $4 million a year? He was the, in a lot of recruiting rankings and services, the top transfer portal target going into, this football year was the Duke quarterback, and he garnered an $8 million two-year contract to lead Manny Diaz's football team in Durham. And goodness gracious, did Chandler Morris outplay the Duke quarterback? Chandler, a sixth year at the University of Virginia, he's just a few days younger than Jada Daniels, the banged up quarterback for the Washington commanders.

Chandler Morris earning about $1.3 million. a year. The Duke quarterback, $4 million a year, two-year contract, $8 million and guaranteed compensation with some bonus money also associated with the contract. And Chandler absolutely outplayed. The Duke quarterback in Virginia finds itself in the driver's seat for an ACC championship appearance. And just a few hours before kickoff, the basketball team dismantled Marshall. I'm going to try to ask this question, answer this question. Can you as a fan base remember a tie? where the football and basketball team look this damn good at the same time. Look, we've had national championships with Tony Bennett. We've had one double-digit win season when Sean Moore and Herman Moore and Terry Kirby and George Welsh were here in Charlottesville. This is a long time ago with the football program. But can you think of a time where the football team and the basketball team were this dominant at the same time? And I know it's early for basketball, but they got talent all over this roster, paid talent. I mean, Your top score in DeRitter is 22 years old, and he's a freshman.

He's a first year, a 22-year-old first year who chose not to go to the NBA draft where he was going to be a second round pick potentially. Instead, chose to enroll at the University of Virginia because he's paid more money, ladies and gentlemen, to play on the basketball team in Charlottesville than he would earn as a professional basketball player across the pond in Europe or someone that potentially is jumping from the G-League to the NBA. a lot to cover on the show I'm going to talk

Dino Haxhaj Close You want to help me with that last name I just call him Dino and give him a bear hug every time I see him Are you on a two shot over there? Not you know

You want to help me with that last name? I'm not 100% sure either I think it's Hacha But I could be off on that It's been a while Our good buddy Dino who is the mayor of dairy market.

He's the Duke of dairy market. Let's cut to the chase. If there's no Dino, there really probably is no dairy market. And someone texts Dino, direct message Dino, give him a little nudge and let them know we're giving them some props. If there is no Dino, there is no dairy market. The guy has got moo through, it's got Dino's wood-fired pizza, rotisserie chicken, he's got the Basta Pasta, Judah. Dino does. He's got an ownership steak Dino does in the Cumbra Bakery. That's at Dairy Market. I do not believe he's a part of the Cumbra over in the downtown area, the old barbershop.

But the dairy market one, he's got an ownership stake in. And he's expanding his real estate empire. He's got a pizzeria in Fluvana County. And he's now expanded, ladies and gentlemen, to Green County, where Dino is taking over the lease for an embattled restaurant tour, Miranda of Miranda's Grill, who had to close her location in Green County because of a failure to pay meals taxes. The Green County government said, dude, you're not going to stay open and run this business if you're not going to play meals taxes. Her name's Miranda Durr, David. She had to shut her doors down. Dino's going to take over the spot. And goodness gracious, I think he's prime for some big time success there. That market is booming. I'm going to ask you,

the viewer and listener of this question, who can rattle off restaurant owners locally that are expanding and what is the most, one of the most challenging food and beverage climate in a long time as right now? You've had some challenging ones without question. The pandemic, especially early on was challenging for food and beverage. A lot of the closings we're seeing happening now is because of debt that was accrued during the pandemic, whether it was, you know, mortgages taken out against houses, floating loan debt, whether it was, you know, hard money lending. A lot of folks got caught in that, that mouse trap of debt with the pandemic just for survival. Dino, Kit Ashy, Annie McClure three off the top of my head that are literally, it seems to me, the only restaurant

owners that are expanding right now in this tough climate. I want to unpack that topic with you, the viewer and listener, unpack that topic with you, Judah Wickhauer. And I'm going to ask you, the viewer and listener, who are the most prolific restaurateurs now as we head into 2026? Stefan Freeman is certainly off that list. Stefan, I've been told through the grapevine that you caught wind of us chastising you for empty storefronts about a week ago. And I will stand by my commentary, Stefan Freeman. Your empty storefronts, Little Johns, Bonnie and Reed, your empty storefronts, Stefan Freeman, draft tap room, your empty storefronts, Stefan Freeman, the old Metropolitan Hall event space. One of his restaurants, Ace Biscuit and Barbecue,

caught fire over the weekend. Did you see that on Harris? Yeah, the patio. Patio caught fire. Bad luck for Ace Biscuit and Barbecue. Serves great food. They had an employee earlier this year vandalized the restaurant, and now the restaurant has caught fire. He's off that list of prolific restaurateurs, Stefan Friedman.

We're going to talk about that on today's show. We're going to talk on today's show a timeline of events for the University of Virginia. I'm going to try to ask this question, who's to blame? Is there someone most to blame for what's going on at UVA? I want to get Judas take on that. Does the blame start with Jim Ryan? Does the blame start with Rachel Sheridan, the rector? Does the blame start with Glenn Yonkin?

Does the blame start with the Department of Justice? Does the blame start with the Trump administration? Well, I have that question and that topic on the program. If you watch the program, we ask nothing of you except you help us spread the gospel. Hit the like button, share the show, tag a friend, and let them know the I Love Seville show is on air. Only thing we ask of you, Janice Boyce Trevillian, thank you for watching the program, and she's exactly right. Dino is at Unionville and Patch and Orange as well. Annie's got a pizzeria in Fluvana.

Dude is expanding left and right. We're going to get to that in a matter of moments. Judah Wickhauer, I'd love to give some love to Conan Owen of Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. He is a Darden graduate, and Conan Owen is a fantastic resource for a business that's looking for visibility with their messaging or their logo. We utilize Conan Owen and Sir Speedy's services for our tenant portfolio. We have 24 doors, and their signage needs are being serviced by Conan Owen. So is our studio in downtown Charlottesville, which is the home to our brokerage, our investment company and our firm, the signage, the vinyl that you see on our Market Street location done by Conan Owen, as is the banner directly behind me. If you have a logo and you need an application for it, he's who I would suggest you call locally owned and operated Conan Owen in Surcepedia, Central Virginia.

Judah, a headline you find most intriguing today. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts. That's my friend. The Jim Ryan and Rachel shared in competing letters is certainly compelling, as is the entire soap opera slash drama surrounding UVA and Jim Ryan's resignation. I guess help me understand this. Over the last week, okay, here's how I see it over the last week. On November 13th, Abigail Spamberger, the governor-elect, she instructs the Board of Visitors... I think that was the 12th.

November 12th. Thank you. She instructs the Board of Visitors to refrain from choosing a president until Abigail Spanberger herself can appoint new board members. Abigail Spanberger, the governor-elect, first woman governor in commonwealth history, female governor and commonwealth history. She says on November 12th, which Judah Wickhauer, that would have been this past Wednesday.

Do not pick a president. I want my say, I'm a UVA grad, Abigail Spanberger, and I want my say as the governor of Virginia on who the next president is going to be, she tells the current board to stand down. The very next day, the 13th of November this past Thursday

Governor Glenn Yonkin rips Abigail Spanberger and he says what the hell are you doing Abby what do you do in Abigail yeah you're overstepping your bounds you're not even in office and you're trying to dictate policy and tempo for the Commonwealth

and it's flagship university you can't do this this is my board they can do what they want and if they want to pick a president they're going to do it yeah okay that was this past Thursday. The intriguing storyline with Spamberger and Yon

and their brouhaha was 48 hours after this media brewhaha within 48 hours of that media brouhaha, they were photographed together passing the proverbial torch and showing this like cross aisle

harmony and peace in what was a nasty Wintermorele Sears, Abigail Spamberger, governor's race. Yeah. So they show early last week a photo of peace, unification, and the passing of the governor's torch. Then almost the next day, Spamberger on record,

saying don't pick the next president. The day after that, Yoncuncukes and chastise his Spamberger. Then we have a weekend of quiet as Virginians are digesting the governor-elect and the incumbent governor fighting over who has the power and influence are we leaving out rachel and jim oh we're going to rachel and jim rachel and you're right it wasn't a weekend of con a weekend of peace at the end of the week then we had rachel and jim i think rachel's letter she beat jim ryan i don't have the date for rachel's letter no it was thursday i think it was thursday it was thursday and jim's came out

friday yeah his was i think it wrote his was i think responds to everybody 100% i think Jim Ryan saved the TNT and the real dynamite till after Spamberger initial, you know, came out with her call of BOV and don't hire the next president, Jim Ryan probably realized that Yonkin was going to tell Spamberger to stand down. And then Rachel Sheridan and the UVA Rector, she releases her timeline of events that led to Jim Ryan's resignation, basically her, I'm not to blame here message. And then Ryan closes the week this past Friday, but by releasing his 12-page letter since Ryan's 12-page letter

even later on Friday the UVA faculty Senate met and passed a resolution basically saying that they have no confidence in the board of visitors and that they too want to

pause the presidential search and they would also like the resignations of the rector and Vice Director, Rachel Sheridan, and Porter Wilkinson. Lower thirds on screen, because it's so much to keep up. I can barely keep up with this. For the viewers and listeners that are watching the show, put the lower third headlines on screen, and we should just rotate them around. So here we are on Monday, Judah.

And on Monday, we're left asking these questions, or at least I am. I'm curious of the questions that you're asking. Questions that I'm asking are this. Why is the dysfunction and the soap opera and the in university fighting at such tangible and palpable and significant levels. I'm wondering this question as well.

Who's most to blame here? I'm wondering this question. Who's the puppeteer in the background dictating the pace and tempo? Who's the man or the woman that's throwing the gas and then lighting the match and then from afar like Mr. Burns

kind of, what does Mr. Burns do with his fingers like this? What does he say? Excellent. Excellent. Watching from afar as Homer and Moe and the guys at Moe's tavern are fighting outside the tavern

after having one too many. Who's Mr. Burns there going, excellent. Because it looks like, from my standpoint, that Rachel Sheridan certainly has egg on her face. Rachel Sheridan looks like she is on the cusp of being one of the most hated board members in UVA history. The only thing that's keeping Porter Wilkinson from that title is that she's the vice rector and all the heat is Rachel Sheridan. The best thing that ever happened for Porter Wilkinson on this board is that her bulletproof, her

teflon right now is rachel sheridan you don't want to be rachel sheridan right now yeah you don't want to be rachel sheridan okay jim ryan even looks like he has egg on his face here does he not yeah he he he looks like he's uh you know i don't want to use the word weasley but but you know how would you characterize what you're seeing with with ryan in perception and appearance i mean he's definitely tattletailing he's definitely like oh i got the skeletons in the closet and I'm airing the dirty laundry for everybody. I mean, without question, he's tattletailing here. Yeah, he waited, waited until everybody else got their stories out before saying, now hold on a second. Yeah. He's got a different story. Right. Yeah. It's tough. I mean,

I, first of all, you have to, you have to gauge how, how well you believe any of these actors, whether you think any of them are capable of lying or prevaricating or shifting their narrative to make themselves look better. But really it's without concrete evidence, it's mostly just a bunch of he said, she said, here's my letter with my sequence of events, and here's this person's letter with their version of events. and it's really hard to make your way through them. It's a maze. Jim Ryan in his 12-page letter, and deep through, I'm going to get your comment here in a matter of moments.

I think your insight is often good. Jim Ryan and his letter, his 12-page letter, one of the mistakes in Jim Ryan's 12-page letter, one of the mistakes, from my standpoint, was bringing Paul Manning into the conversation. Jim Ryan in his 12-page letter almost threw Paul Manning under the bus. He as much as implies it.

He basically, in his 12-page letter, letter implies that Paul Manning, who is the nine-figure contributor to the Paul and Diane Manning Biotechnology School. Paul Manning's a billionaire. He's on the board of visitors. He's legitimately a billionaire and one of the most influential and powerful people in this community. He's the money behind dairy market. Okay? That's just one small example of his significant contribution. He's the hundred plus million dollars behind the biotechnology school who led AstraZeneca to open a $4.5 billion facility in northern Amar County. When Mr. Manning was doing this nine-finger plus donation, before it was announced, I was told, and now I can speak about this now,

because it's news, before the nine-figure check was struck, I was told that this donation was coming, and it was going to have a population impact of 6 to 8,000 people incremental moving into this area. And that's why since before COVID, I've been talking about the significance of biotechnology locally because I had intel that a nine-figure donation was going to come and that nine-figure donation that was coming from people that were at the table of receiving the donation were letting us know that 6 to 8,000 people, their estimation were going to move. here because of this biotechnology epicenter. To

to what, tarnish to sally his name like Jim Ryan did, I can assure you that Mr. Manning awoke on Friday over his coffee, maybe at

Cumbra Bakery at Dairy Market and was reading this 12-page letter and said why is Jim Ryan talking about a private lunch that I had with him. Why is Jim Ryan saying that I was his friend or he thought we were friends? And then why is Jim Ryan airing the dirty laundry of our conversation where I told him to retire or resign because he no longer had the support of the board? That cannot be good for the hallmark

Christmas card receiving lists for Jim Ryan when Paul Manning is sending him out to many many people in his network. Do you agree with that? Yeah, definitely. I mean, what did he say in his letter? I thought he was my friend. I thought he was my friend. But really he wasn't. I don't think he outright says that no, he wasn't. But it's very much implied. Yeah, it's very much implied that he was in the middle with Sheridan and Wilkinson in convincing him that the DOJ wanted him to to resign and that that would be the end of

UVA's problems, which it wasn't. Now we're left with this, okay? And then I'm going to get to your comments. Dethro, we'll go with you first. Janice Poistreville and we'll go with you next. I have two local radio stations, a local newspaper,

one local TV station watching the show, as do we have reporters from the paper in Richmond. We're left with this. we're nowhere closer to getting a president named no we're nowhere closer to getting this these key positions that are filled by interim talent the interim talent we're nowhere close to having those positions full filled by full time talent we're we're nowhere closer to having uh clarity with what 2026 is going to look like.

We're nowhere closer to having closure. I don't know if we ever will. Rachel Sheridan, my advice to her is to probably offer her resignation before she's the second Board of Visitors member in UVA history to be fired from the board for malfeasance or malpractice. Rachel Sheridan, you're going to get fired by Abigail Spamberger. You already know this, Rachel Sheridan. Professionally, you may want to resign before you're pink slipped by Abigail Spamberger.

Porter Wilkinson, you're the vice rector. You're probably going to get fired, too, by Abigail Spamberger. You're next. Porter Wilkinson, you may want to resign before Abigail Spamberger fires you. Jim Ryan, your next commentary to the community should be one that comes across less tattle-tale and less airing of secrets, including conversations you had in one-on-one fashion with powerful billionaires, where you basically threw him under the bus, and your next optics or strategy or PR play should be one that, comes across as more victim. I think it depends on what he wants

to do. I think Jim Ryan, what he's very concerned about right now, is trying to shift the history books on what his legacy looks like once he's out of academia and six feet under. Someone like Jim Ryan

is very mindful of his legacy like a lot of academics are. And I think that 12-page letter was in some way his attempt to paper the trail of protecting, preserving, or repositioning his legacy? Writing his own history. Writing his own history? Perfect description, Judah,

as opposed to having the Board of Visitors, Yonkin, Spamberger, DOJ, write his history. Now, Deep Throat has made this comment, and I'm going to butcher her name. She is the United States Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights division. Her name is, is it, Harmeet, Dylan, Deelon?

I mean, there's an H in the last name, which is throwing me off. I think Harmeet is right. I think you'd just call it Dylan. Okay. Harmeet Dylan. She's a Dartmouth University undergraduate. She's got her degree, her BA from Dartmouth College, Dartmouth College. She's got a JD from UVA law school. and she is a power player.

I mean, she's the one that's initiating a lot of the... She's the hammer for Trump with the DOJ. She's the hammer, the educational hammer with the DOJ that's trying to revamp what colleges and universities look like from most notably a diversity, equity, and inclusion standpoint. The interesting thing about, Harmeet, Dylan. Are we going to go with Harmeet Dylan, Judah? Yeah, I think so. She was born in India. Her family first moved to London before eventually settling in the United States.

She attended elementary school in the Bronx before moving with her family to Smithfield, North Carolina, where her father became part of a medical practice there. She is Indian. and someone that is far from white and American is Trump's hammer in destroying and dismantling diversity, equity, and inclusion at colleges and universities of higher learning. Deep Throat believes, and I don't think he's far off here, that she may be the puppeteer in the background.

He says this. And you got me thinking over the weekend about your text, Deep Throat. So this was his from Friday, which I didn't have a chance to read because it came in after the show. He said, my two cents of the B-O-V stuff, when behavior suddenly changes, look for some other change that provoked it. The obvious one is Hermit Dillon and Greg Brown at the DOJ. Two UVA grads who stand in relation to their alma mater as do as I do to mine. They would love to play Rome to UVA's Carthage.

okay maybe in reality their first choice is to change it to be ideologically balanced and non-woke but failing that just messing the place up is not a bad second choice for them dollars to donuts he says Dylan is the chess player moving the pieces he also adds if the bov people were doing this on their own and wanted to be rid of jim ryan they could just point to triple murder by an affirmative action admin who was reported to having a gun on campus hiring a failure from Ohio State University

to run the UVA health system which opened the door to fraud charges and pepper spraying protesters. There's three strikes and you're fired. Yeah. I think I tend to agree. Nothing in any of these really

makes me believe that Sheridan was a, was a Machiavellian, you know, working behind the scenes, like moving people around, getting them to act against each other. I feel like she was just really kind of stuck. Oh, Rachel Sheridan got screwed and used by Yonkin. Yeah, no doubt. This is, here's the analogy.

Harmeet Dylan of the DOJ. Harmeet is to Donald Trump as Rachel Sheridan is to Glenn Yonkin and the difference between Harmeet and Rachel Sheridan is Harmeet has true power and Harmeet is much better

of a behind-the-scenes puppeteer and a significantly more influence because she has the Department of Justice and the federal government behind her where Rachel Sheridan all she has behind her was a governor who was in his last year of

term on his way out with a Virginia governance that was about to be dominated by the Democrats from the governor's mansion to delegates to the state senate and beyond. Rachel Sheridan was like a lame duck coach. And a lame duck coach in football is like the head coach that's coaching on a contract that only has one year left. Or a lame duck coach is like a coach who is coaching without an athletic, the athletic director that hired him, the athletic director got fired, and he's now coaching with a new athletic director in place. Rachel Sheridan got used. She was unfortunately a pawn in a game of chess

that was made to be a sacrificial lamb on this chessboard. And who the king is? Is the king in this scenario, Trump? Potentially? Is the queen in this scenario, Harmeet Dylan? is the night in this scenario Glenn Yonkin? Is the other night in this scenario, Paul Manning? The pawns clearly are Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson.

Yeah. What was Jim Ryan on the board? Is Jim Ryan a pawn on the other side of the board? And what, damage does this do to UVA, if any. Does it do damage? In the long run, I don't think it really does a whole lot of damage. Does it do damage? I'll tell you who it doesn't do damage for is it doesn't do damage for Glenn Yonkin. He didn't care. It doesn't do damage for Abigail Spamberger. In fact,

this is just going to make Abigail Spamberger. It's going to springboard her come her term in 26, it's going to springboard her into change, immediacy, and change in the new, and policy, decision making, and very much plan her in the new cycle for an extended period of time. It does tremendous damage for Rachel Sheridan. Does tremendous, Rachel Sheridan is about to be the second Board of Visitors member fired in UVA history. Does damage for Porter Wilkinson? Yeah. Ladies, resign before you get fired.

Does it do damage for Jim Ryan? I think it does. It doesn't do damage for Paul Manning. I mean, he says this, deep throat. Personally, I'm going to give a hell of a lot more credence to Paul Manning, a guy throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at UVA out of the goodness of his heart than I would to Jim Ryan or even Harmeet Dylan. I'm going to say this.

Paul Manning, and I've been told they watch the program from time to time. I'm not saying it's every day. I will say this. Paul Manning's contributions to UVA will far outweigh and legacy and history and remembrance than Jim Ryan's ever will. Paul Manning has got $100 plus million at the Biotechnology School. His name and his footprint are all over this university. You have to think Paul Manning is on the Mount Rushmore of the University of Virginia.

That Mount Rushmore of University of Virginia, what is it? Thomas Jefferson, right? Yeah. John Castine A president of the UVA Two presidents ago What? Jaffrey Woodruff

Front of the program Who's donated more money Behind the scenes than anyone In University of Virginia history And it's not even close The only reason you don't know about this Is because he chooses not to put his name on anything The complete opposite M.O.

Of what Mr. Manning is doing Yeah Probably the fourth one on the Mount Rushmore Is it Mr. Manning? Is it Paul Manning? could be I mean some people would say maybe it's a basketball coach like tony Bennett or a basketball player like ralph sampson but you're you're four first whether you agree with this or not

it's thomas jefferson john castine jaffrey woodruff paul manning then your your your last bus how many around mount rushmore i should know that jude how many around mountain rushmore there are four okay so that's all the bus right if we wanted to do another one would it be five George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Abe Lincoln surrounded by the beauty of the Black Hills of South Dakota, the Mount Rushmore National Memorial,

a massive sculpture carved into Mount Rushmore and the Black Hills region of South Dakota, completed in 1941 under the direction of Gutson Burglum. Why can't these names just be like Tom Jones? or Tom Smith Harmeet, what's that? It'd be impossible to look up. That's fair.

You're saying it allows us to have an easy Google search. Yeah. Okay, that's fair. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts. Comments are coming in quickly. If you have some comments, you'd like to relay, you'd like for me to relay on air,

put them in the feed, and I'll mention them for the viewers and listeners that are watching our fine and fair talk show. Conan Owen, why should they care if Spamberger fires them? Their professional achievements far exceed being a political pawn on the UVA soap opera. They should stand up for themselves. Won't be a great look for the new governor either. I get your side, Conan.

Here's the opposite side to it. Anytime Rachel Sheridan's name is going to be Googled, and Google is the world's history. book, it's going to show the top link on her search is fired from Board of Visitors. And that impacts people, and especially people in clout and wealth and power. She has an opportunity, Rachel Sheridan, for the top link when anyone in her family tree, generations from now should they search her name

on the interwebs I don't even know if we're going to be even using the internet three generations from now maybe you're tapping your temple and it shows up from a contact lens that's on your eye who knows right okay she has an opportunity to include the top link

to influence the top link on search the metadata and what it reads about her and if she leaves it up to Abigail Spanberger it's going to say fired as opposed to if she does it resigned Conan Owen says

Frank Batten should also be on the list Frank Batten is a powerful player too Janis Boyce Trevillian watching the program her photo on screen Jim Ryan is also under the microscope of the trial coming up since he has refused to release reports for years and release them redacted

I think he comes across as shady. Janice Sports Trevillian says she's referencing the triple murder and the redacted reports and the fact that the public doesn't know what's happening. More importantly, the parents of the murder football players don't know what's happened. She also says, I'd make Spamberger fire me if I'm in the right and know what I did as far as Jim Ryan's concerned. So she's of the Conan Owen mindset. Fire me.

That's fair. And in defense of Janus and Deep Throat, I think that waiting to be fired could come across as not admitting to guilt. Like if you resign, it could be seen as, you know, I know what I did and I'm going to step down before I'm fired. whereas waiting to be fired could be you know like I know what I did I'm fine if you want to fire me come and get me okay so that's another question here

so you're saying someone who's fired looks less shady than someone who resigns different people are going to see it different ways but is that what you're saying but that is one way of looking at it if that's what you're saying what did Jim Ryan do

what did Jim Ryan do in terms of he resigned if based on your theory Janus Boyce Chavillian's theory Conan Owen's theory that's a different case how is it a different case he resigned he didn't get fired it's a different case because he resigned

thinking that that was going to at least by his account his resignation and his deciding to resign early was a bid to protect UVA from further

heat from losing federal funding from the Trump administration. Yeah. That's why he said he resigned. But if Jim Ryan thought he was in the right, he would have waited to get fired and figured out a way to maintain that federal funding. And the alumni is certainly

wealthy enough to do that. But in his letter, he was arguing that he was receiving conflicting messages, but largely, one of the consistent messages was if you know the DOJ wants you out they don't trust you with the

with the DEI initiatives and if you if you step down now like post haste like today or tomorrow then the DOJ will step back from their from their investigations

his words I get yeah I know his word that's all we have to go by his words right I get that. Deep Throat makes this point. Do you trust someone like Paul Manning who's donated $100 million plus dollars to UVA and driving the entire emergence of a new economic sector biotechnology?

Or do you trust an individual who for the next 14 months is getting paid his $1 million presidential salary for not really working much at all? I will say this. If 99.9% of us, if we were Jim Ryan and we were paid $1 million plus dollars for 14 months, when a large portion of that 14 months was also our vacation time and our personal leave time, we would all take that too. Yeah. Like, I'm not going to hold him, I'm not going to hold a retirement or severance package,

whatever you want to call it, an exit package against Jim Ryan. Wild times to be following what is often seen as the number one public university in the country. Absolutely wild time. And I just don't see a solution inside until Abigail Spamberger nukes this board. I mean, it's almost a foregone conclusion. Yeah. And I'll close with this. I'd expect a lot more fireworks.

over the holidays and into the new year, ladies and gentlemen. So giddy up and get ready. Tina, Wyatt, Breeden, and Venice, Park Hill. Thank you for watching the program. Logan Wells, Claylow, and Randy O'Neill. Thank you for watching the program. All right, it's 117. We've got to go to the next topic.

I have a phone call at 130 with a investment group that's looking to purchase a prominent local business and is looking for some funding and counsel. Next topic, what do we got, Judah Wickower? We got Dino. I mean, how about the Dino news? The Dino news is awesome. I mean, Dino is now taken over Miranda's grill in Green County.

Miranda's grill closed because the previous owner just basically didn't pay her meals taxes. And that's a big time crime. ran a durer Davis because you collect the meals taxes in advance from your customers when you pick that receipt up there's like uh 12% roughly 12% of your bill is tied to taxes that's before the tip 12% and a lot of that 12% is tied to the taxes meals tax for your local jurisdiction you collect that money in advance with the expectation you will pay that money or pass it on to the jurisdiction. You're basically a middle manner liaison for the tax money. Yeah. That's all you are. And Miranda Durr Davis, Green County General District Court presiding judge Kenneth Sneatherin found in favor of the landlord because they were behind on rent and even worse on being behind on rent with the landlord as they were behind on tax allocation to Green County.

Miranda Durr Davis specifically on the taxes. Her future as a restaurateur, and I think this is the second one she's gotten in hot water on, second location. Now Dino takes Miranda's grill and is going to turn it into a wood-fired pizza joint, and he very quietly has become perhaps the most prolific restaurateur in town.

Now I have a correction. The Facebook page Cheers VA, which follows craft beer and the Commonwealth is watching the show and Cheers VA knows craft beer like the Pope knows Holy Water. They said, Jerry, Dino is no longer at John Craig's

Patch Brewery. Patch Brewery now owned by John Craig by himself. Andre Xavier, not a partner in Patch Brewery, just John Craig. He says, Dina was no longer at Patch. Not sure why that did not last long. But it was a relocation, but he is at Unionville. Janice Boyce Trevillian

brought this to my attention. I trust her. Dino's is at Unionville Brewing Company. But not at Patch. So thank you for letting us know that's in Unionville. So we now have Dino with wood-fired pizza at dairy market, rotisserie chicken at dairy market. That's two.

The mooth through at dairy market. the pasta pasta at dairy market he's a partner in the Cumbrae at dairy market I believe in very

non very behind the scenes you know fashion he's the owner of the burger joint is it sizzle shack at dairy market he's the owner of the sizzle shack

at dairy market he's got a pizzeria in Fluvana County you're going to have to help me count these okay let's figure out these together okay I'm losing count Okay, Dino's wood-fired pizza is one. Dino's rotisserie chicken is two.

Muthroo is three. Basta pasta is four. Sizzle shack is five. Cumbra at Dairy Market, he's a partner. That's six. Fluvana County Pizzeria is seven. Green County Pizzeria is eight. and Unionville

Brewing Company is nine Dino's got nine points of sale right now and that's just off the top of my head granted I follow this very closely nine points of sale in food and beverage and in an economic time in an economic climate where no one is expanding food and beverage

and in an economic climate where Wendy's and Burger King to put into perspective are closing hundreds of stores. You're looking at maybe your most prolific restaurateur in the Charlottesville area. The only one that I can think of that may be able to compete with Dino

is Kedashi. Friend of the program, client of the program, one-time tenant of the program. Help her, broker, a number of restaurant purchases, Kid Ashie, including one that's on the near horizon. It's not my business to announce when this new restaurant opens, but I think it's going to be absolutely fantastic. She, I wish I can figure that out.

Let's see if I can. Kid Ashie, Charlott. I wish there was a spot on one of our websites where all of the restaurants were listed. She's got... oh man she's got monsoon on market street right can you write these down judah yeah monsoon on market street she's got a monsoon in madison wisconsin so that's two she's got a partner in that one that's two she's got pineapples tied kitchen that's three she's got coconut tide kitchen and crozee that's four.

She's got Tangerine's kitchen in the old Kroby's location. We helped her buy the Krobe's restaurant as a broker that deal.

How many is that? That is five. Okay. She's got camellias where the old Millie Joe's coffee was right across

from Almore County office building. She's got a camellia's bakery and coffee shop next to Guajeros. That's another one. She's got one coming in the UVA area.

That's not my announcement to make. But you can put that down. She's got maple pine on pantops next to Darden-Tal Park. You don't have that on the list, right? Not yet. Maple pine. How many is that?

Let's see. We got... Nine. How many? Nine. Is that exactly what Dino has? Yep. You're looking at your two most significant restauranteenths in the Charlottesville area, Kit and Dino.

Your two most significant restauranteurs, influential, impactful, significant restaurant tours in the area are the embodiment of the American dream. Yeah. talented intelligent hardworking connected visionary people not born on u.s. soil coming to the united states of america with a dream of building a business starting in the back of the house at restaurants kit as a back of the house server runner do jack of all trades at monsoon and dino at the college inn in in the kitchen washing dishes literally that's how we started in a restaurant

the college inn on the UVA corner dino and now someone that goes from running the dish pit at the college inn and someone that's running doing anything for anyone and everyone at monsoon in kit ashie they each own nine restaurants

Annie McClure in the third slot who just opened the jervy most known for Citizen Burger Bar on the downtown mall, which we help launch. I have goosebumps on my body. I swear to God right now.

And the goosebumps I have on my body are over the story. And you're rotating lower thirds on screen, right? The goosebumps that I have on my body are literally, ladies and gentlemen, about a woman from Thailand who comes to Charlottesville to work in a kitchen at Monsoon who puts in the effort and now has nine restaurants

and a gentleman from Eastern Europe who comes to Charlottesville and works at a dish pit at the College Inn that now has nine restaurants. Bill McChesney, Dino is no longer at Pro Renata. He was at Pro Renata at one time. James Watson's exactly right. Papitos pizza is also expanding in this economic climate.

Papitos opening a new restaurant in the old Mono Locos spot. And they have the Rio Hill location. Very interestingly and coincidentally with this story, they purchased the Rio Hill spot from Dino when it was the brick of it. Unbelievable story. All right, 127, I have a phone call in two minutes. My phone is now off airplane mode. I'm going to put my earbud in my phone, so when this phone call rings, I'll be notified.

But I still have now two minutes to offer more commentary. Last topic, what do we got you to Wiccaro? We got a change for Plaza Azteca. All right. Rebranding. This is on the Charlottesville subreddit. Coden Owen also texted that to me. Plaza Azteca is rebranding as

as Mexico Mexico Viejo Plaza Esteca is a big chain in Virginia, a Mexican restaurant chain. So the fact that's rebranding as Mexico which means old Mexico

means that whoever was running this location, it would lead us to believe they had beef with Plaza Esteka corporate. and because they had beef with Plaza Esteka corporate they said to hell with you guys we don't want the corporate support we don't want the brand recognition we don't want the institutional knowledge we're going to do this on our own and we're not going to pay you the fees now we have Mexico Viejo and that is a massive restaurant with obscene overhead

and that's why when you go there and you're a family of four like my wife and I with two kids our bill was like 140 dollars and all we had was a round of drinks food etc but 140 gone to the days where you could go in with like 40 bucks husband and wife and two kids and leave with a bill of like 33 and put two 20s on the table yeah and from what it sounds like the prices have gone up even further

since the rebrand I can't imagine with the overhead tied to the rent with that location is that the old Mavericks location no that's the old outback location no which one is it the old I'm trying to remember where it's moved They used to be the old Mavericks location. It used to be, but Plaza Azteca has moved away from there. That's now the, what is it, piers?

Oh, yeah, the seafood. Yeah. North of Barracks Road, you know. North of Barrett's Road. All right, I got 30 seconds here. In fact, I'm getting the phone call right now. The last topic I want to talk about is I'm going to talk about this on the Jerry and Jerry show with Jerry Hooty Radcliffe tomorrow at 10.15 a.m.

You could close the show with the commentary. You close the show. 10.15 a.m. tomorrow, I'm going to have this topic. the show. When is the last time the football and basketball team have both been this dominant at the exact same time? 10.15 a.m. tomorrow with the Jerry and Jerry show, Virginia Sports Hall Famer, Jerry Rackleff. Judah Wickhauer is going to close the program on a one shot with him as I take this phone call. Hello, this is Jerry. I don't have much to close the show with except to let you know that Plaza Azteca, which is now rebranding as Mexico Viejo.

is currently in the former Applebee's spot on Branchlands just by the food line. So take that as you will. Have a wonderful afternoon. Thank you.