The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - ACPS Superintendent Will Receive $258K To Resign; AlbCo Republicans Call For Haas To Donate $258K

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

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Good Monday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville Show. This is the water cooler of content and conversation in Charlottesville and across Central Virginia, the Commonwealth country in the world. It's a show where we encourage you, the viewer, and listener, to shape the discussion by passing along your ideas, by passing along your comments and perspective on what we're covering on the show today, our talking points. And if you have an idea or a talking point that is suitable for ahead of the which you see on screen right now if you're watching the program, send it to us, DM us, pass them along. We want to be the water cooler of conversation. We don't necessarily want to originate or break the news on the show. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast today. Matthew Haas, he is an embattled superintendent. He's now officially resigned and he's going to resign well-heeled. $258,000, Matthew Haas is going to receive as the now resigned superintendent of Almar County Public Schools. We'll talk about that on the program today. We'll talk about Philip Reese, the chair of the Admiral County Republican Committee. They issued a statement this morning. The Alamara County Republican Committee is calling on Matthew

Haas to donate his entire severance package and severance pay to the Alamore County Public School Student Recovery and Victim Support Fund. I want to talk about that on the show today. I doubt Matthew Haas is going to do that. I did like the statement from Philip Reese and the Almar County Republican Committee today. We'll talk on today's show as well. Sam Sanders, the city manager, he is putting his foot down. Some would say finally. He says, tent town under Free Bridge can not go on anymore.

What that means, time will tell. But Sam Sanders is firm. That tent town must be cleared out. Where is the city going to relocate the residents, the inhabitants of tent town? Is the expectation the city will relocate the tent town under Freebridge up High Street to zero East High Street? The land the city purchased from Wendell Wood to block a multifamily development led by developer Bo Karrington a little while ago, year, year and a half ago. And if so, how is High Street going to respond to that?

How is the neighborhood going to respond to that? How are businesses going to respond to that? Another question I have for you, if they relocate tent town and they do not position the inhabitants, the residents, on Zero East High Street or Two Zero East High Street, do they consider 2000 Holiday Drive? If so, what does that look like? currently the city is struggling to find an operator to run the building as is for 2000 Holiday Drive.

You have a 27,000 square foot office building that's empty that the city owns, and right now the city has no solution on how to operate the building, including in its current form. Let's unpack that on today's show, viewers and listeners. Also on the program, we have some fresh news for you. Pro Renata and Croixie has got a new restaurant concept coming. This is the location of the former Dino's Pizza that was there for an extended period of time. Dr. John Shave, the owner of Pro Renata, front of the program, is an enterprising and savvy businessman. He's got a new business concept coming to Pro Renata, which will talk about it on the show today.

We will also discuss on the program John Dewberry and the downtown mall skeleton. if you have not heard the Dewberry Hotel on the downtown mall is not just ugly, painful, it's not just a blight on the downtown mall. It's now a rodent and rat infested haven. If you're walking downtown in any capacity and evening hours, you will see rats by the hundreds flocking in and out of the Dewberry Hotel. And currently, John Dewberry is paying his taxes, property owners have rights, If you pay your taxes, you're able to keep your property in a certain condition, if you may.

I think we're past that condition of healthy, past that condition of safe. Along with the rodent population, there's a number of, I don't know, teenagers, vandals, vagrants, mischiefs that are breaking into the Dewberry Hotel. shockingly they are scaling the building, literally scaling the building, climbing its various floors, and graffitiing or tagging the outside and interior of the building. It's infested with tags or graffiti, and not of the Banksy variety. I'm talking of the crappy variety. Just, I don't know why anyone would risk their life to get a can of spray paint to then tag a building with something that's indistinguishable or lacking memory and talent in any capacity,

but that's what's happening. In Atlanta, Georgia government is going after John Dewberry. They are pursuing John Dewberry from a blight tax standpoint, from a policy council standpoint. I'm going to ask the question, why is that, again, not being done here in Charleston? We have the 50-year anniversary of the downtown mall, and in the dead center of the building is a rat-infested, graffiti-dominated, skeleton of a building owned by a developer that does not live in Charlottesville that is doing the absolute bare minimum as a community steward, and no one is holding them accountable. We'll talk about that on the program today.

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and their business, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, for anything, folks. They are fantastic people. Judah Wickhauer is a key component of the program. We now know Judah, as we weave you in through a studio camera and a two-shot, that the embattled superintendent, Dr. Matthew Haas, who has been, I guess the straw that broke the camel's back, was the awful, horrible, terrible nightmare of a child sex predator that was a social and emotional learning coach at Hollymead Elementary.

The investigation is ongoing. We do not know how many kids so far have been impacted by Mike Sweeney, who is now in jail. Compounding the matter is another teacher at Woodbrook Elementary that got arrested for child pornography possession and charges. And here Matthew Haas is coming to crossfire again, not the first time Haas is in the crossfire, but we are now in a final chapter of the Matthew Haas saga here at Amar County Public Schools,

and that final chapter is an expensive one. It's going to cost taxpayers $258,000 in total, I mean, how do you put this in perspective? Compensation? Yeah, I mean, comp package, pay and benefits. I think you would call it severance, a severance package. That's the best description. $258,000 the man's going to get, Judah, from taxpayers.

Put that in perspective, your thoughts for the viewers and listeners. I mean, it's a lot like what we saw with Jim Ryan. Obviously not as large a payout, but certainly up there. And, you know, getting paid for a year of work that you don't have to do. is a pretty great way to go out. Especially considering there's, I don't think there's really, I mean, you know, we can point to all the things we dislike about Haas, but he's resigning. He's not, you know, he's not getting saddled with any kind of bad press, really.

Oh, he's respectfully, significantly disagree with this. You don't think there's bad press associated with Matthew Haas? I think there is. considering that he gets to go out, that he gets to resign and get paid for another year. I think he... Do you think that really looks that bad for him? 100%. I would doubt Matthew Haas is hired as a superintendent ever again.

I think the evergreen or forever nature of the internet, the internet doesn't forget. And this will forever be associated with Matthew Haas' digital resume and his legacy, his digital tombstone. Now, I had a question with, I had a conversation with a very, very heavy hitter on the phone this morning. He heaviest of heavy hitters locally here in Charlottesville and Almore and across Central Virginia. He said, Jerry, why didn't they just fire him? I asked the same question. The obvious reasons of why you didn't fire Matthew Haas here, the Almore County School Board, is legal exposure and the concern that this could be a lawsuit initiated by Haas and his case or his claim, his attorney's

defense would be I was not fire with cause. I had no knowledge of Mike Sweeney and this sexual assault, this child sexual assault. I was distance away. And there's an argument to be made there. He wasn't patrolling the elementary school. He wasn't the principal. He wasn't the vice principal. He wasn't the guidance counselor. He was atop the academic totem pole. He distanced himself potentially from culpability. Now, the flip side of that argument is, is this, the school board and the school system must establish trust, reestablish trust, find a way to show parents, connect with parents, that your kids are in fact saved in our school system. Is the first way of creating that trust or rebuilding that trust,

firing a superintendent with costs and saying, darn it, we will not accept this behavior in any kind, we won't offer a cent of severance compensation, and we will fight this until the very end, even if that means legal fees and opportunity costs may outpace the $258,000 were distributing to Haas to basically be quiet and do nothing and not bring this up again. I'm very curious if there's some kind of non-disclosure agreement associated with this, is Matthew Haas ever allowed to speak on the record about, what happened at Albar County Public Schools

with his resignation. My instinct would suggest there's a non-disclosure in NDA. He gets the $258,000 in total compensation. Shockingly, that includes a 3.75% raise. Shockingly, that includes

an $800 bonus this month. I mean, what a slap in the face. You're bonusing the superintendent this month, $800 for performance? How do you bonus a man that is the face of school system that's snarled in a child sex assault scandal, any kind of bonus money. Mere days after the investigation comes to light.

That's a slap in the face to the parents and the kids involved with that. There's two schools of thought here, viewers and listeners, and put your comments in the feed and we'll relay them live on air. The first school of thought is this. The public school system and its leadership, the school board, are trying to minimize collateral damage and exposure with a $258,000 payout to Haas, a non-disclosure agreement potentially, and hope that this resolves quickly. Hope that the $258,000 keeps any lawsuit from happening, which would be much more costly

potentially. The alternative school of thought is they should have fired the man and said, I don't care if you sue us, we're going to fight you in court, and even if those legal fees jump, escalate ahead of the $258,000. And even if that continues the story and drives it in the news cycle further, we need to reestablish trust with the parents that we have a zero leeway or zero tolerance for this type of behavior and this type of leadership that allowed the behavior to happen. Viewers and listeners, your thoughts.

Judah Wickcarry your thoughts. I think it's going to take, I think it would take more than more than a firing to renew parents' trust in the Almar County school system. Agreed. I think that this route is not going to protect them from parents who feel the need to get litigious with the school system. I think they've got a tsunami headed their way. I don't know if there's anything they can do to renew that trust, at least not quickly. It's going to take a new superintendent.

It's going to take time. It's going to take, I mean, this is not something that you can prove. Obviously, they can put together what all the parents were asking for when they showed up last week asking, why haven't you done anything in five months? It wasn't that I don't think most of them were angry about not necessarily getting told details. I think what they wanted was to see that the school system had given this some thought and come up with a plan on how to prevent this from happening in the future. And they didn't show that.

I think parents are going to need to see that. They're going to need to see policy changes. They're going to need to see that there are protections in place. And that's going to take more than just, you know, firing a couple people. Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing with him getting money, it's not unsurprising. I mean, the school board extended his contract. He had a contract, and if they don't, you know, what happens when you break someone's contract?

A few years and listeners, do you remember when Matthew Haas's contract was extended? right before the Meg Bryce and Allison Spillman, at-large race was decided. Everyone was shocked that the Almaro County School Board at the time would extend Matthew Haas' contract under such cloak and dagger circumstances. That extension is paying Haas' dividends right now.

Were it not for that clandestine cloak-and-dagger contract extension, A school board fearful that Dr. Meg Bryce may win the at-large seat. A school board fearful that a spitfire, Dr. Meg Bryce, who was willing to push the pace and tempo and was unafraid of being the voice of reason, even in a room that was crowded with an ideology that was opposite of hers. the school board was concerned that Bryce would win. They extended his contract, and that contract extension is costing taxpayers $258,000. And in the grand scheme of things, $258,000 may not be a lot of tax money for a county

that is running now on a $750 million, three-quarters of a billion dollar yearly budget, but it reeks the perception. The perception of it is the damning aspect of it. The perception reeks of business as usual. The perception reeks as rubber stamping. The perception reeks of backroom dealing. The perception reeks of one party and one class and one group taking care of their own,

despite the nastiest of circumstances. amongst us. Ginny Who is watching the program. I trust this person, this viewer and listeners' judgment and perspective. She says, I'm sure I am not the only taxpayer who would rather have had their money go to legal fees than Matthew Hosses' pocket, even if it costs the county more money. This comment from handsome Hank Martin, as a parent, citizen and taxpayer, Through the corrosion of taxes, a sponsor of pitophilia, and I'm rewarding Haas for eight years of malfeasance? Voters need to keep in mind going forward in school board elections.

Do you want this loss of trust and innocence staining your hands ever again? Vanessa Park Hill is watching the program. She says, the ACPS situation has hit the national media. Rob Shelling and Noah Kaufen were interviewed on Sean Hannity last week. I have not seen or heard any of the interview. With this in mind, I suspect you're correct that Dr. Haas may have a rough time getting hired into another superintendent position. I don't see how it's humanly possible that guys hired again as a superintendent. Not with this track record that's online.

Brian Ruby, Carol Thorpe watching the program. Shirley Presley watching the program. Carol Thorpe says, I have heard the entire audio. You can easily find a link to it on Rob's Facebook page. She must be talking about the Sean Hannity interview. She's right. Hannity interviewed Shilling and Noah Cawthon. I have some other questions on this. And I'll tell you right now, the fact that this story broke in June

and the investigation came to light in June in the summer months, his saving Almaro County Public Schools and its school board, so much attention. It is, it is, the timing of this is as beneficial, if beneficial is the right word for ACPS as any. If this was September or October or coming at a Christmas break, there would be parents picketing outside the county office building. There would be parents picketing outside Hollymead Elementary.

And for the Woodbrook parents that contact me, you have every right Woodbrook parents to feel, like you are being forgotten or disregarded the communication with the Woodbrook parents has been non-existent and for the teacher association the Almore County Teacher Union the Education Union your silence says a thousand words it's not it's it's is where's the school the teacher union with a statement of any capacity there's been no statement from the Amar County Teacher Union the teacher union leadership is not just about leading in good times. The teacher union. Leadership

is not just about we got the educators a raise. We're using collective bargaining to improve compensation perks and benefits. Leadership is also lending a voice of communication, offering clarity of thought during hard times. In fact, many would argue that's the most important time to lead. Yeah. Where is the Amaral County Teacher Union on this? You should be rotating lower thirds on screen here, J. Dubbs. Please. And here's the crazy thing of this story, viewers and listeners.

After Haas gets his $258,000. The sad thing is this story is going to go silent. Yeah. But what is not silent is the baggage, the children, and their parents and family, will carry for a lifetime. That's the sad thing. And don't think what they're setting up at Journey is... The trauma center?

Yeah. Don't think that's for the parents and children's benefit. No. The trauma center that Atmore County Public Schools is setting up for parents to go visit at Journey Middle School, Journey Middle School? Yeah. That is so ACPS can cover. their ASS.

Yeah, so they can get ahead of any other kids that come out with information. 100%. That's a hedge. That's damage control. I would be very careful if you're a parent with a child who is involved in this in any

way. Any parent that remotely fears their kid is associated with this in any capacity should, even before going to the police should contact an attorney. Yeah. To go into a trauma center and think those that are associated with the trauma center are first acting on your best behalf is incorrect thinking.

Yeah. Those associated with the trauma center have been coached up to minimize as much exposure and damage possible for ACPS. 100%. That's the litigious world we live in, how. folks think. Kelly Costello watching the program. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts.

We'll relay I'm live on air. If you're just tuning into the program, we may see, unfortunately, the final chapter of this story, because I doubt there will be any communication from Almore County Police. I think the next level of communication we'll hear is from, you know,

friend of the program, consistent viewer and listener of the show, the Commonwealth Attorney's Office, Jim Hingley. I would imagine the next form of communication we will hear on this is from the Commonwealth's attorney's office. On charges, the next steps in the investigation,

how deep this story goes. I doubt this will be mentioned again in a school board meeting. I doubt this will be mentioned again by Almar County Public Schools. Matthew Haas is probably under a nondisclosure agreement. The police department will say

this is an active investigation we cannot communicate. And even if they could communicate, it involves minors and sexual assault, so they would not. The next communication will probably hear is from the Commonwealth Attorney's Office. At Haas, $258,000 richer here. Megan Hart watching the program. Are they even licensed at this point for a trauma center? I haven't looked at it to it personally just because I don't trust anything about the trauma center. No idea.

and that's a great question, Megan Hart. We know the social emotional learning coach, Mike Sweeney, wasn't licensed. And Almore County Public Schools gave him a walkie-talkie to monitor communication throughout the school with the walkie-talkie, his own office that had no windows, no cameras, and a door that could be locked

from the inside. And a hidden part of the school. Sadly, this story probably ends right now. Yeah. And from an accountability standpoint, you're looking at Mike Sweeney, and these are all alleged, everything's alleged right now. He has a chance in court. But you're looking at Haas riding out into the sunset at $258,000

and the Haile Mead principal, Joe McCauley, now on paid leave. Paid leave. and Matthew Haas's right-hand person is now the interim superintendent. You can't script this. This is taking care of your own, the definition of it. Backroom wheeling and dealing and taking care of your own. Ladies and gentlemen, no accountability. Hank Martin makes a great point.

Not only is the teachers' union silent, Judy Lee and Katea Cuff continue to be tight-lipped, about it. Judy Lee, the Rivana District School Board member, the Rivana District Representative, hasn't issued a statement in any capacity, and this is her district. It's just, it boggles my mind. She has an issued a statement, the school board representative, and it's her district. Elections have consequences, viewers and listeners. Elections have consequences. If you're just tuning into the program, $258,000 payday for Massachusetts. Matthew Haas severance package.

His right-hand person is going to lead the school. The principal of Hollimede Elementary is put on paid leave. What do we think chances of him? Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the driver's seat as the principal again. If you're giving the superintendent a payout, you're basically saying the superintendent's the fall guy. But as the fall guy, you're making him the fall guy in the easiest fall guy circumstances possible. Yeah, no doubt.

Do you think I'm misreading this? Marjorie King Collins says this is a really, really, really bad lifetime movie. 100%. I wouldn't be surprised if this is turned into a Netflix documentary. And the teacher union is completely silent. I see teachers everywhere on the feed watching this show. Leadership, for those that are in charge of the teacher union with the Almore County Public Schools, is communicating in good times and in bad times.

and the silence is deafening. Yeah. Next topic, what is it, Judah Wickhauer? Did we mention that Republicans are calling for Haas? Yeah, and how about Philip Reese, the chair of the Admore County Republican Committee, calling for Matthew Haas to donate his $258,000 to the ACPS student recovery and victim support fund? It's for elementary students and families impacted by the criminal case involving former ACPS employee. Sweeney. Do I think

Matt Haas is going to do it? No. But I like that a statement was made. Yeah. A statement was made. What else you got? Do we trust that fund? Who has the keys to the castle? Who was the keys to the account?

Yeah. I mean, it could be the same kind of thing as... If I was a parent and involved with this in any capacity, I wouldn't trust anyone associated with ACPS. If my kid was involved in this in any circumstance, or if I thought my kid was involved in this in any circumstance. That's why I questioned the fund. Megan Hart says, to me, this just shows you can get away with anything and still get paid.

Honestly, Haas probably doesn't care anymore. He's getting paid to sit at home. Allah Jim Ryan. A la Jim Ryan's severance, golden parachute, much more advantageous. Next headline, what do you got? Well, let's see, city manager. So over the weekend, the city manager, Sam Sanders, is on record saying, tent town under Freebridge must be dismantled immediately.

I mean, hurry up and wait. Now it's immediate. It seems like insanity to me. I mean, we thought it was insane when the tent town was first going up. And the response was to what? them, bring them boxes to put their needles in. And now they have to go. I mean, I agree, but.

Why? I want you to think about this. Viewers and listeners, now Sam Sanders is on record saying tent town under Freebridge must be dismantled immediately. In the most dangerous part of the year, when temperatures are in the 90s and climbing. When a 100-degree feel-like temperature is often the norm in Charlottesville, in drought-like conditions, Sam Sanders is like, you got to go. He didn't do this in the spring when temperatures were in the 60s or 70s. He didn't do this in the fall. He waited to the most

dangerous weather time of year to tell Tentown, you got to go. And if you watch and listen to this program, you know of the mindset, I'm of the mindset that tent town should never have existed. A hand up is not allowing an urban wilderness amenity, the Rivana Trail and the Rivana River, to be commandeered by 50 to 150 homeless people that are shooting heroin and pitching tents and defecating and urinating. on walking trails and rivers we enjoy. And I'm going to ask the viewers and listeners this question. I will bet you that when they choose to relocate tent town from under Freebridge, they're going to screw up the relocation.

Because from my standpoint, you have two spots where you can relocate the residents under Freebridge. You can take them to zero east high street just up the road from Tentown. This is the land, the city, from Wendell Wood, United Land Company and his family. And the city purchased this land, what, a year, year and a half, two years ago, because they wanted to keep developer Bo Carrington from building apartments there. They said it's in a floodplain, the community cried foul, they didn't want Bo Carrington and Wendell Wood and their joint venture to bring housing to East High Street.

So the city purchased the land from Wendell and gave them a boatload of money, and the city said they were going to turn it into a park. park. There's already a second encampment there. I would bet they're going to try to move tent town to either zero east high street or they're going to try to relocate tent town across Charlottesville to 2000 Holiday Drive. The problem with 2000 Holiday Drive is you don't have an operator for the building. You can't let them in. It's a 27,000 square foot office building the city owns. The legal exposure, the

potential for disaster, catastrophe at a building that has no operator, manager, overseer, and you just say, front doors open, go 100 homeless people into this building and do whatever you want.

No way. They would destroy the building. They would, yeah, it would be gone. They've already sent, they've already caught tents on fire under freebridge and were told by folks in the know the fire originated from cooking heroin on a spoon there's used needles human feces and urine everywhere yeah i was just reading an interesting discussion over the uh over the ability to uh to provide housing for uh for people who need assistance, whether it's low-income housing, whether it's assisted housing. And the problem

is if when someone doesn't earn something, they have no respect for it. And that's exactly what's going to happen at 2000 Holiday Drive. A hundred percent. Without people watching and taking care of the place, you can't just let, you can't just let 80 plus people into that building, or it's going to require a lot more than just a remodeling the interior. They would destroy it. Yeah. It would cost way more than the money they need to take this and turn into a homeless shelter. It's akin to this. My wife and I give our eight-year-old son a toy for doing well on his report card or reading a book or it's his birthday or it's Christmas. Our eight-year-old son will love that toy in the moment. He will love that toy the days after it. But soon as the novelty of that toy is worn off,

our son is throwing that toy. He's rough-housing with that toy. He's disdemeanorphousing with that toy. he's disregarded the toy, he's forgotten the toy. Our son earns a little bit of allowance money by doing some chores, performing well, doing something academically like reading a book, doing something athletically, practicing. He'll earn a little bit of money. We're talking five to ten bucks a week tops, maybe. He saves that money.

He's very much into Pokemon, graded Pokemon cards. He's using that money to buy back at Black Label Tens, PSA Tens, Charzards. And you better bet he takes care of this. Oh my God. It's like a Holy Bible. Yeah. He treasures it.

It's his money. He treasures it. He won't let his brother touch it. He keeps it hidden. It's under the corner. It's in a binder. It's a locked box. He only brings it out when no one's around.

He clears his bed. He puts it on the bed right in the center. so it can't fall down, he treasures it. You give 100 homeless folks and you relocate them from under a bridge where there's used syringes, human feces, urine, trash, fires, and deaths. And you give them keys to 2,000 holiday drive and a 27,000 square foot Georgian office building,

brick Georgian office building, they'll destroy it. Yeah. You can't put them in the parking. lot over there. Are you going to have tent town extremely visible from the bypass, tent town on an asphalt parking lot in a hundred degree temperature? That's why I think it's going to be at zero east high street where the other encampment already exists. But 2000 Holiday Drive also has some shaded areas due to the trees. There's some wooded areas. I don't know what they're going to do. I don't think there's a good solution because there's, there's,

is no respect for whatever you give them. And unfortunately, you know, I wish there was. But, but we've already seen, we've already seen with, uh, with the Ravana tent town. And I don't think it'll be any different for, uh, for zero east high. Uh, we've seen a disregard for the, for the grounds, for the area around it. Uh, I've heard stories about, uh, about, uh, businesses having their, uh, having their, uh, their tanks, their propans. They're, uh, they're propans. tanks tapped. I don't know how true that is, but obviously that's a major hazard, especially during a drought. Heaven forbid somebody, you know, something happens to one of the, you know, to one of the propane tanks, either at a business or at the encampment.

They have at this encampment under the bridge, propane tanks inside tents that are zipped closed next to sleeping bags, sleeping bags and trash. and they're operating propane tanks during one of the most significant droughts in Charlestville history at a time there's already been fires at Tentown at a time when two people have already died at Tentown

at a time when nearly 70 calls for service with the Charlottesville Police Department according to Chief Kachis who watches and listens to the show have transpired and now Sam Sanders once Tentown done Yeah Let's watch the relocation strategy Conan Owen pushes back on us.

He says you do not need an operator at 2000 Holiday Drive. You need some security folks and some showers. Set it up Barracks style. You buy that Judah Wickhauer. I mean, he's in a way he's not wrong, but at the same time, guards, a few guards aren't going to stop the kind of... What are you going to get, Conan? The yellow shirts from Scott Stadium?

and the John Paul Jones Arena, the event staff, where are we going to get the downtown mall ambassadors? Asking security, asking a couple of security guards to police, to oversee 50 to 150 homeless people that are drug and alcohol-induced? I'm not even sure the final setup for this place. is going to be enough. The final setup for the place they said is barely 80 bets.

And that's with the $20 million renovation. And we're looking at about 80 people in the encamping on the day, somewhere between 50 and 150. The roundabout is in the 80 to 100 vicinity, yes. Yeah. So my point is that I don't know if the problem is that this is a high barrier, I mean a low barrier shelter. unlike what is being done by the Salvation Army.

And a low barrier shelter, by its nature, is not going to stop people because of drugs, because of police problems. And you're thinking that we're somehow thinking that these people are going to treasure and take care of 2000 Holiday Drive once it's set up. I just don't see it. And asking for

whoever is hired by C.R. H.A. and Pacham and City Council, City Hall are in a conversation with Patcham, the Blue Ridge Area Coalition for the Homeless, and the Haven. Yeah.

And neither of them right now once they'll manage the interim solution shelter at 2000 Holiday Drive. I think they all realize that they can't do it by themselves. Of course. Who wants this job? Who would want a job in an interim shelter, a building not set up for a shelter, an office building, to take 80 to 150 homeless folks

that have shown already under the bridge that there will be, they will defecate, urine, throw syringes, trash, light things on fire, and potentially die. Who wants that job? Well, they certainly want the job. This is why Sam Sanders and city manager in Charlottesville should have said from day one,

you are not allowed to camp in public places or store your possessions in public places like thousands of cities and jurisdictions all over America do. Yeah. We are being progressive, is not synonymous with getting taken advantage of. Being a progressive city doesn't mean you have to bend over and take it

where the sun don't shine like the city's doing right now. Sarah Williams on YouTube, my dad had a great idea, why not put them out on Route 20 in the new park that was created by a donation? They should have something, they should have built something in that donated land anyway, away from everything.

I'll tell you, what Sam Sanders, I bet you is not going to do. I don't think he's going to do anything, ladies and gentlemen, before the 50-year anniversary of the downtown mall is completed. I bet you Sam Sanders waits to the 50-year anniversary of the downtown mall is done. It starts July 3rd and then does something. That way, hopefully the people stay where they are and don't come back to the mall? The only positive from Tentown on an urban wilderness amenity, the Rivana Trail, the Rivana River, is it's removed the houseless from the downtown.

downtown mall. Largely, but not entirely. Very largely. Maria Marshall Barnes watching the show. Conan Owen brings to our attention. The news that broke about an hour ago that the University of Virginia has named Darden, the Darden Vice Dean is the business school's new

leader. A long-time professor and current vice dean at the Darden School of Business will become the first woman permanently appointed to lead the school in its 70-year history. I'm going to, I hope I, I apologize for messing up your name. Is it, how would you say your first name, Y-A-E-L? Y-A-E-L? Yel, I'd say Yale, Yale, or Yael.

Yael, Grushka, Kakein. Kakain. An award-winning teacher, scholar, and academic leader will become the school's 10th business dean 10th dean on august one congratulations on this that's some breaking news just released by the university of virginia yeah carol thorpe's exactly right there's been 70 plus calls for service from the police department at tent down why would they expect anything different at 2000 holiday drive right 100% carol hundred percent marcia marshall barns on house is nothing new however this group is very different from the people that used to hang out

under Belmont Bridge. 100%. I'm Maria Marshall Barnes. 100%. This is a completely different group that previously was the houseless population in our community. 100% agree with you. Next headline. What is it, Judah? Let's see.

Balanced bowls. This, I find out over the weekend. There's a new food concept coming to pro-renata. The new food concept is called balanced bowls. What is it? Akiah bowls?

Akiahs. Fress fruit. Yeah. Is that what it is? Is that how you pronounce it? I think so. Fresh smoothies, salads,

grain bowls, wraps, toast, avocado toast. Asa'i. Asoi bowls. Nourish, balance, and thrive.

There's nothing like pounding 20 ounce IPAs while maintaining your health with some grain bowls and some avocado toast. Balance bowls. I love everything about Pro Renata. I love everything about the Disney World of Crozay. I love everything about John Shave. I appreciate John Shave.

I'm a fan of John Shave. I think Pro Renata set up wonderfully for kids, live music. It's indoor, outdoor play is awesome. They've built the Disney World for Croze. I love it. love that he's found a new restaurant concept for the old Dino's location, balanced bowls. And I cannot

wait to eat my avocado toast while pounding 20 ounce IPAs on a Saturday afternoon while staring at the Blue Ridge Mountains. Balance bowls coming to pro ronata. Next headline, what is it? John Dewberry?

Let's see. Yeah, Dewberry. John Dewberry is getting hammered. Ladies and gentlemen, by Atlanta and its government. He's running the same playbook. Blight towers of real estate that are hideous eyesores. Atlanta is pursuing a blight tax.

Charlottesville is a Dillon Rule State and needs authority from the General Assembly to kind of go after John Dewberry, although there is some wiggle room to say it's blight. and to potentially start the proceeds or the early stages of eminent domain. I, look, it's a microcosm, Judah, the houseless situation under Freebridge. It's a microcosm $20 million for a homeless shelter. It's a microcosm zero-ease high street, buying zero-ease high street to prevent housing.

It's a microcosm, the disaster of the new zoning ordinance. It's a microcosm, the extortion of our taxing system in the city. It's a microcosm, the management or the allowance of John Dewberry of keeping a building in this state on the eight most important blocks in the city. It's governmental malpractice. Atlanta has said enough is enough. Michael Payne is now speaking up about it. The irony of Michael Payne being the voice against the Dewberry Hotel now will not be lost on me.

Michael Payne is the reason the DuBerry Hotel is what it is right now. When he was running for counsel in his first term, Michael Payne made a big stinking to do about a white businessman Versace suit wearing Italian loafer wearing John Dewberry getting parking spaces and tax breaks. Parking spaces in the Water Street garage and tax breaks from the city of Charlottesville to bring an expensive hotel to market on the downtown mall. And he used that to win a spot on council on his first term.

And John Dewberry said, what are you doing, Michael Payne? You're not even on council. And you're screwing up this deal that Mike Ziggner, who's on council negotiated with me and kiboshing it. And as a result, Dubberry got so pissed off. He said, I'm done dealing with Charlottesville. and now we got this skeleton. Now Michael Payne is like, no, no, no, John Dewberry's wrong here.

The irony is not lost on me, Michael Payne. There are very few people who are right in this situation, but... Who's right in the situation? Give me one. That's my point. The folks that are right in this situation is the hundreds of rats that live under the Dewberry Hotel that have an epicenter of trash, food, grime, protection from dangerous elements where they can thrive.

That's the only people that are right. Anything you want to add, Judah Wickhauer? No. It's the Monday edition of the I Love Seville Show. We're back on the saddle tomorrow at 1230. Judea Wickhauer, Jerry Miller. Thank you for watching.