The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Activist Gathers Rips City Council On Record; He Calls Mayor Wade "A Negropean & Mike Signer 2.0"

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us. It's a Tuesday afternoon in downtown in Charlestville, and what is the water cooler of content and conversation. In Charlottesville, across Central Virginia, the Commonwealth, the country, and the world, folks, everyone in Charlestville, Almore County, in Central Virginia is watching this show.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We discuss topics that matter to you, even if they are uncomfortable. We're going to play a clip from Charleston, City Council a meeting from last night where Don Gathers, one of the most significant activists in Charlottesville, Virginia history. And Don's watching the program. He is one of the most significant activists in the history of Charlottesville, Virginia. If Don Gathers had not have had some health issues tied to his heart a few years ago, Don Gathers would be on counsel now. I think you need to frame the shot a little bit better. I'm too low on the framing there, Judah.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Too much space above my head that you could frame differently. I want to talk about, I'm going to play the clip for you, and then we're going to assess it, break it down, and analyze it. Always go to studio camera before reframing so the movement doesn't happen on the one shot. That's something we learn in broadcasting school. In this clip, Don Gathers basically calls Mayor Wanda Diego Wade and Uncle Tom. In this clip, he rips Natalie Oshran the vice mayor and calls her the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan and uses an I Love Seville show moniker or term
Starting point is 00:01:57 Oshronomics that the I Love Seville show has monikered and coined. And then he goes on the attack against Lloyd Snook, you know, calling him what, mean-spirited? Oh, yeah. He said he was, let's see, he was verbose, mean-spirited, and wrong. And then says he's snookering around with people. This commentary from Don Gathers was a result of Wade, Oshran, and Snook,
Starting point is 00:02:32 approving the mark, the luxury student apartment tower for Fifeville that will most certainly gentrify the Fifell historically black neighbor. The historically black neighborhood we call Fifeville is about to be absolutely eviscerated. And I'm telling you, the communities that are next for evisceration are 10th and Page and Star Hill. If you live in 10th and page or if you live in the Star Hill neighborhoods around West Haven, your neighborhoods are next. They're going to be destroyed and eviscerated by apartment towers that are clearly going to be approved by Juan Diego Way, Lloyd Snook. and Natalie Oshort because they've set a precedent on the mark. How the evisceration happens.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It happens slowly initially and then aggressively and quickly through tax assessments, through gentrification tied to folks in the neighborhood selling their homes to chase some short-term cheddar as opposed to the long-term gain. And as folks in the neighborhood, whether it's second generation or third-generation owners, that cannot keep up with the maintenance of their home, the upkeep of their home, the taxes of their home. They chase the cheddar. They sell out to developers, to flippers, to speculators, to investors, to entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Then the remaining folks in the neighborhood get priced out of their neighborhoods. And just like that, a historically black and brown neighborhood, 10th and page, a historically black and brown neighborhood, Star Hill, historically black and brown neighborhood, Fifeville, become white, wealthy, and homogenous. Cut to the chase. Facts on facts on facts. We're going to play the darn gatherer sizzle reel here in about four minutes on the program. Giddy up and get ready.
Starting point is 00:04:18 This is one of the most straightforward, aggressive, in-your-face comments I've ever seen in a city council meeting, and I've been following this for 26 years. Juan Diego Wade, there was a point in that meeting where Juan Diego Wade, I thought was going to cut him off. I thought during that commentary, Juan Wendezer, Wade initially thought that Don Gathers called him the N-word. Yeah. Because Juan Wade interrupted him and said, what did you call me?
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah. And then Don Gathers looked at him and said it to him directly. And then Juan Wade basically backed off and bristled. Because going toe to toe with Don Gathers is no easy task. But Juan Wade initially thought that Don Gathers was calling
Starting point is 00:05:05 him the N-word. Ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot we're going to cover on the broadcast today, including the Virginia Supreme Court denying an appeal on their redistricting judgment, their redistricting decision. Virginia Democrats look into appeal. The Virginia Supreme Court said, nah, dog. We ain't entertaining appeal. Our decisions are our decision. And now it's time to move forward. Nah, dog. Not Virginia Democrats. We'll talk on this program about a UVA vice president that ripped and denigrated Thomas Jefferson during graduation. Goodness gracious, what a time to be alive that vice presidents at the
Starting point is 00:05:45 University of Virginia are ripping Thomas Jefferson during graduation. We'll remind the viewers and listeners that Matt Green will join us on the program on Thursday. He's a board member with the Salvation Army. We're going to talk about what they're doing on Ridge Street with a $28 million capital campaign. There are about $17 or $18 million raised so far, $17 or $18 million raise. Their target is $28 million for a high barrier shelter on Ridge Street. Additional high barrier shelter services on Ridge Street with the Salvation Army. We're going to highlight that effort on Thursday show with one of the Salvation Army boards of directors. I want to highlight Jerry Rackliff.com, Judah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Jerry Rackliff.com. $8 a month. The price of a cup of coffee gives you access to the best UVA sports content possible, and it's not even close. If you bleed orange and blue, if you like football, basketball, if you're following the Lars Tiffany coaching fire. I mean, the chatter right now with Lars Tiffany is a family tied to the University of Virginia men's lacrosse team, a very aggressive father with very talented athletes on this team,
Starting point is 00:07:02 very aggressive father behind the scenes, the chatter has got, Lars Tiffany can't. Okay. Jerry Rackleff is trying to get to the nitty-gritty of that story, and subscribers are the ones that are going to get that information. It's $8 a month at Jerry Rackliff.com. The best content possible, anything orange and blue related. Studio camera, Judah Wickhauer.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Two-shot Judah Wickhauer with city counselors watching the program right now, from Charlottesville. Elmorrow County Supervisors, two of them watching the program right now. A Nelson County supervisor, a Louisa County Supervisor, a Louisiana County supervisor, a Commonwealth's attorney watching the program. We literally have City Hall watching the program right now. I encourage you, the viewer and listener, to like and share the show. We work hard for you, and that's the only thing we ask in return.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Before we play the clip, and we're going to play it in a matter of moments. Curtis Shaver, welcome to the broadcast. Love you, C. Shave. What did you make at the Don Gathers fireworks? I mean, it was certainly exciting. Exciting. Well, it's definitely livened up the city council meeting. I mean, it's interesting to hear someone go all out in a city council meeting
Starting point is 00:08:23 and lay it down how he feels about the counselors. I'm going to ask you following this clip, and I'm going to listen to it with the viewers and listeners. I'm going to put my earbuds in now. Guys, get your popcorn ready. Pop your popcorn. Frankly, after this clip, get your bourbon. Get your bourbon ready.
Starting point is 00:08:45 This is Don Gathers, one of the most significant activists in Charlottesville, Virginia history, absolutely lambasting Juan Diego Wade, Natalie Oshran, and Lloyd Snook on the record. It's three minutes long. Do you have that ready to go? Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Don Gathers in three, Don Gathers, in three, Don Gathers and two. Don Gathers right now. Thank you. Don. Good evening. Don Gathers, City resident. I do not come here this evening in peace.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I come today trying my best to understand why some of you still continue to ignore the will of the people. Some of you have seemingly sold what's left of your soul to the countless stream of of developers that continuously swoop into Charlottesville. Councilor Payne, Council of Fleischer.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I applaud you for standing firm, listening to the people in doing what you knew was morally right. The other three of you, Lloyd, Natalie, and Juan Diego. The egregious, horrific vote that you placed at the last City Council meeting will probably be your lasting legacy. You all routinely and systematically go against the very direction of the boards and commissions that you've impanled. You disregard the words of the citizens heard during community matters. Lord, you have morphed into Charlottesville's version of Rudy Giuliani, brazen, verbose, mean-spirited, and wrong, all while snookering the people of Charlottesville. Natalie, you would seemingly be the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan could procreate. Your astronomy bear the hope of trickle-down housing that does not, has not, and will not manifest itself in any meaningful way.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And you, Juan Diego, you are turning into the Mike Signer 2.0. To hell with the people, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. You will sit on the precipice of becoming a modern-day Negro pen. What? Negro-Pen. You are the Charlottesville's answer to Clarence Thomas, leading the charge for the newest version of Jim Crow redlining, betraying the people of Charlottesville. I would like to think there is presently a crisis of conscience, yet I'm left to wonder if
Starting point is 00:11:19 there is a conscience. What you demonstrate is not leadership, it's cowardice. Coward is in its worst form. You're being used as a modern-day racist tools of white supremacy. You're seemingly thoughtless actions will surely drive up the homeowners' cost and taxes, causing many of them to have to leave their family homes. This at best is backdoor gentrification. These developers are Charlottesville's weapons of mass destruction. And you would never allow this to go on in Greenbrier or Park Street or Belmont. You may think that this fixes the previous screw-up on the zoning ordinance but in reality it's the moral equivalence of changing your shirt because you've crapped your pants. While your
Starting point is 00:12:04 actions will surely expand the city's tax base it will simultaneously change the very landscape of the Fifeville community. It will most assuredly change the fabric of an established community that you were elected in part to protect and not to destroy. You were elected to represent all the people, not just the rich, but here you've missed
Starting point is 00:12:28 the mark. Thank you. That was literally some of the best content that I think I've ever seen in my entire life. Changing your shirt to crap your, because you crapped your pants. Yeah. You're changing your shirt because you crapped your pants. He's,
Starting point is 00:12:46 I mean, Don Gathers, just called Juan Diego Wade, the mayor of Charlestville, Virginia. and Uncle Tom. During a city council meeting on the public record and something that will live on the public record forever. He called Lloyd Snook Rudy Giuliani and said Natalie Oshran was the loved child of Nancy Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
Starting point is 00:13:07 He turned snook the last name into a verb, snookering, which is a reference to shooting pool or billiards. When you snooker an opponent, you hide your intent behind something else, which Don Gathers used appropriately. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts on Don Gathers's comments. City Hall is all over the broadcast right now.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Employees that are walking with Charlottesville, that are working for Charlottesville City, are watching everywhere on our show right now. Barbara Becker-Tilly says, I am absolutely shocked that they let Don Gathers continue speaking. I will say this, that if it was just about anyone else in Charlottesville, Virginia, they would not have allowed to keep speaking.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You think? Oh, no. If it was. How would they have stopped them? I mean, we saw. You're allowed to stop people speak. Yep. You can try, but how would they've actually accomplished it?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Turn the mic off. Could have turned the mic off. So it would not have been picked up by the I Love Seville Show and then played for thousands of people or tens of thousands of people. because the reality is very few people attended the meeting yesterday. The seats were empty. You can actually see it behind Don Gathers,
Starting point is 00:14:24 and very few people actually watch the YouTube video. But everyone and their mother and their daddy and their love child, Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan and Natalie Oshran, watched The I Love Seville Show. I want to play this clip one more time. The only reason I'm going to play this one more time, I thought it was an absolute popcorn-worthy moment. The only thing Don Gathers did not do well with this speech
Starting point is 00:14:45 was the stumbling over words on a hand-fathers. of occasions. And outside of that, he delivered a popcorn-worthy moment. Now, I will say that Natalie Oshran, to compare Natalie Osharing to the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan, is not a true indication of understanding Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan. Carol Thorpe says Natalie Oshran is much more Hillary Clinton, or excuse me, Conan Owen says this, Conan Owen, that Natalie O'Sherin is 0% Margaret Thatcher, much more like 94. percent Hillary Clinton with a splash of AOC is what Conan Owen says. Deep Throats got comments.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Hank Martin's got comments. Carol Thorpe's watching the program. Like and share the show of viewers and listeners. I want to play this clip one more time. Then we're going to unpack this because I think it's extremely clear viewers and listeners that Juan Diego Wade, the mayor of Charlottesville and Natalie Oshran, the vice mayor of Charlottesville City, have lost almost near total support. of Charlottesville City taxpayers and voters and residents.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And I'll make a convincing argument of why that's the case. This is why someone within City Hall was willing to bet me money, the proposition bet that I talked about last week. I gave this individual four to one odds that Natalie Oshran would not finish her term on counsel. I put up my $100 against their $25. This is someone that works inside City Hall. a four to one bet, four to one odds, that Natalie Oshran will quit her first term on council before the term expires. I don't think she will, but after stuff like this, I mean, Natalie Oshin right now has now changed jobs, no longer works at Pippet Hill, now works at Harvest Moon.
Starting point is 00:16:38 We're told that her partner, her significant other, has moved out of Charlottesville, and her ties to the city are becoming fewer and further between, and now. she's losing support of the voter base, taxpayers and residents. Let's play it again. Do you have the clip ready to go? This is worth another three minutes from Don Gathers. Don Gathers, you're watching the program. I respectfully and kindly invite you on the show, sir. Will you be kind enough to join us?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Nikaya Walker, you're watching the program right now. Nikaya Walker, I respectfully and kindly welcome you on the show. I am willing to take the verbal arrows and the barbs from Nikaya Walker if she comes on the show. and I will offer a platform for the former mayor of Charlottesville, Virginia that will be open-ended questions. I will allow her. Most certainly, if she comes on the program, she will rip me in some capacity.
Starting point is 00:17:30 She will try to label me in some capacity, and I will take it on Teflon and thick skin. Nikaya Walker, a seat is yours. You've already come on the I Love Sevo Show once. Do we have the Nakaya Walker photo that we can put on screen? somewhere welcome you to Kyle Walker to come on the program
Starting point is 00:17:48 anytime you want Don Gathers you come on the program multiple times please come on this show and explain this three minutes that will forever live on the public record and I believe of what Don Gathers said dude Lloyd Snook's
Starting point is 00:18:03 legacy and Juan Diego Wade's legacy and Natalie Oshran's legacy will be the voters on council that eviscerated Fifeville just like Viteger Hill was raised in urban renewal. And the legacy behind urban renewal is Charlottesville City wanting the coveted land that's where Staples office supply is, where Vision Barbecue is, that parking lot, vision barbecues parking lot, that little Vinegar Hill shopping center. That was home to the black community in Charlottesville 50 years ago, you know, 60, 70 years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:39 That was home to the black community, the city wanted the land. and said, we're going to take it from the black community. We're going to shut down their businesses, close their church, take their houses away from them, and then we're going to put them in public housing, which is now West Haven, urban renewal. But the legacy with urban renewal is linked to Charlottesville, city hall, and kind of this government,
Starting point is 00:19:03 this entity that is Charlottesville. The mark in Fifeville are forever going to be linked to Lloyd Snook and Juan Diego Wade and Natalie Oshran. forever that will be on their digital tombstone. Do you have the Nakaya Walker photo? Yeah. Let's put the photo on screen. Just come on the program once.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Nakaya Walker, please join us on the program again. It will be a fair interview, and you can also verbally go after me. I'm sure you will. That photo on screen. Then I want to play Don Gathers again. I want to play Don Gathers again. Do you have that clip ready to go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's worth another three minutes. My favorite line in this whole commentary was, what? Taking your shirt off because you shit your pants? You crapped your pants. What was the line? Yeah. You said it's the equivalent of taking your shirt off because you crapped your pants. Yeah, that's the best line of it at all. And then turning snook into a verb, snookering was amazing. It's absolutely amazing. Three, two, one. Donny Gathers. Again on the Island. Thank you. Don. Don. Don. Good evening. Don Gathers, city resident.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I do not come here this evening in peace. I come today trying my best to understand why some of you still continue to ignore the will of the people. Some of you have seemingly sold what's left of your soul to the countless stream of developers that continuously swoop into Charlottesville. Counselor Payne, Counselor Fleischer, I applaud you for standing firm listening to the people in doing what you knew was morally right. The other three of you, Lloyd, Natalie, and Juan Diego. The egregious, horrific vote that you placed at the last city council meeting will probably be your lasting legacy. You all routinely and systematically go against the very direction of the boards and commissions that you've impaneled.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You disregard the words of the citizens heard during community matters. Lord, you have morphed into Charlottesville's version of Rudy Giuliani. Brazen, verbose, mean-spirited, and roneled. all while snookering the people of Charlottesville. Natalie, you would seemingly be the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan could procreate. Your astronomy bear the hope of trickle-down housing that does not, has not, and will not manifest itself in any meaningful way. And you, Juan Diego, you are turning into the Mike Signer 2.0. To hell with the people, damn the torpedoes full speed
Starting point is 00:21:47 ahead. You won't sit on the precipice of becoming a modern-day Negro pen. What? Negro-Pen. You are the Charlottesville's answer to Clarence Thomas, leading the charge for the newest version of Jim Crow redlining, betraying the people of Charlottesville. I would like to think there is presently a crisis of conscience, yet I'm left to wonder if there is a conscience. What you demonstrate is not leadership, it's cowardice.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It is in its worst form. You're being used as a modern-day racist tools of white supremacy. You're seemingly thoughtless actions will surely drive up the homeowners' cost and taxes, causing many of them to have to leave their family homes. This at best is backdoor gentrification. These developers are Charlottesville's weapons of mass destruction. You would never allow this to go on in Greenbrier or Park Street or Belmont. You may think that this fixes the previous screw up on the zoning ordinance, but in reality,
Starting point is 00:22:55 it's the moral equivalence of changing your shirt because you've crapped your pants. While your actions will surely expand the city's tax base, it will simultaneously change the very landscape of the Fifeville community. It will most assuredly change the fabric of an established community that you were elected in part to protect and not to destroy. You were elected to represent all the people. not just the rich, but here you've missed the mark. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's Don Gathers for a second time, one of the most significant activists in Charleston, Virginia history. That is the best three minutes of content I have seen in 2026 period and I'm including the I Love Seville show on that statement. That is the best content that I have seen
Starting point is 00:23:46 in the year 2026, all the content that I've absorbed, including the content that I create yours truly. That beat my content and was better than mine. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts. And I'm going to take a stance on this program that's going to make you the viewing and listening public uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's going to make you the viewer and listening public uncomfortable and perhaps you as well, Judah Wickhauer. And here's the statement in the stance. If a conservative had made those comments or something similar, their mic would have been shut off and they would have been told you can no longer speak. If a white male had made those comments to city council,
Starting point is 00:24:30 their microphone would have been shut off and they would have been told you cannot speak anymore. If a white female had made those comments, she would have had her microphone cut off and would have been told they could not speak anymore. There's very few people in Charlottesville, Virginia, that are able to make comments like that on a record that will live in infamy
Starting point is 00:24:50 in perpetuity, like what Don Gathers just at during a city council meeting. Deep Throat has this comment, a little historical perspective for you. His photo on screen, number one in the family. Hey guys,
Starting point is 00:25:08 hey viewers and listeners, do you remember when Kevin Cox spoke before city council after being hit by a car over on Cherry Avenue? Kevin Cox, a white male, was stopped by city council from speaking because he criticized the traffic engineering department. He did not use any insults. He did not mention anyone by name. All Kevin Cox did was critical,
Starting point is 00:25:35 was be critical of traffic engineering. If the council tries to stop anybody after this, I will happily fund a lawsuit on their behalf for violating viewpoint neutrality. then Deep Throat has some pointed pointed feedback and pointed criticism of Don Gathers. The nerve of Don Gathers to criticize City Council for helping developers when Don Gathers himself was supporting the new zoning ordinance that allowed this. Don Gathers himself called anyone
Starting point is 00:26:10 who opposed the new zoning ordinance a racist. No, Don we don't dislike you because you are African-American, we dislike you because you are mean-spirited and have a short memory. That's from Deep Throat, number one in the family. I will say this. I remember when Don Gathers was going balls to the wall for the new zoning ordinance. I remember when activists in livable Seville were going balls to the wall for the new zoning ordinance. And if you remember at the time, yours truly on this platform in front of thousands of people,
Starting point is 00:26:46 said you're making a really, really, really, really bad mistake with this new zoning ordinance. But city council listened to Matthew Gilligan and Stephen Johnson and livable Seville. And they ramrodded a new zoning ordinance through. And now guess what? You've made your bed. And now guess what? Fifeville's going to be eviscerated. The Star Hill neighborhood will be next.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Tenth and page will follow soon thereafter. You will, with this new zoning ordinance, have historically brown and black neighborhoods eviscerated. And Charlestville City will become more homogenous, white, and wealthy facts on facts on facts. We said this was going to happen. I got this comment. We wrote a thorough analysis on I Love Seaville. If you're not an $8 a month subscriber of our substack on I Love Seville, you're not getting
Starting point is 00:27:35 the true nitty-gritty of what's going on around here. Yesterday, I published a piece called Livable Seville's Yimbie Agenda is driving black families out of Charlestville, Virginia. As of this afternoon, hundreds of people have read it. Our subscriber base is spiking. It's blowing up. I got a comment from one of the paying subscribers
Starting point is 00:27:57 named Barry Sisson. I might be butchering his last name, S-I-S-S-O-N. I found his comment compelling. I'm going to relay it to you, the viewer, and listener. This is his comment in response to my insider analysis that is blowing up right now. This is Barry Sisson. I apologize if I'm butchering your last name. Verbatim, I'm going to read it to you, the viewer and listener.
Starting point is 00:28:22 There are lots of interesting thoughts and comments here in your analysis, Jerry Miller. In the end, much of the zoning and development code was overwrought and driven by purposeful ignorance and emotion. Rather than focus on areas in the city where it would be beneficial to increase density, City Hall incorporated the idea that neighborhoods were in themselves bad and racist. This thought allowed them to create a code that ignored the good of many of their citizens. With this cover, this allowed City Hall large developments to Ramrod, large developments into small neighborhoods, apartments without parking, and in the case of Fifeville, large imposing buildings hovering over a neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The CORE neighborhood designation was in itself racist and that it is a thinly veiled cover for trying to limit the damage to historically black neighborhoods that they knew that they were bringing to neighborhoods in general. In my opinion, there is a lot of damage inherent with the new zoning code. Think for a moment about the provision in the code that if you were to build over 10 units in a project, you must include affordable housing units as well. These units must be affordable for 99 years and must be built with the same amenities and features as the full price units. Basic economics notes that the cost of a project must be rationalized to the rents or sales price. By putting in this provision that these units must be affordable for 99 years, the full price units will now be priced higher from a four-sale standpoint or a four-lease standpoint. This will drive up leases and values everywhere around those apartments, those condos, those units for sale or lease.
Starting point is 00:30:18 This results in the buildings having an extra level of complexity in their management and costs will go up further. Under the new code, many projects will not be built in Charlottesville at all because of this new code. Everything is more difficult and costs are prohibitive. But we all know that everyone deserves a home in Charlottesville. This was repeated over and over in the process. Of course, their slogan left out the in-Sherlsville part, but in their actions it was clearly implied and the taxes continue and rise.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I'll unpack what Barry said in this comment. Very straightforwardly. A, livable Seville is absolutely the definition of moronic in their take with the new zoning ordinance. city council listened to morons with a perspective on real estate and development and and their take on what will happen in the future when city council listened to morons they passed a new zoning ordinance when the new zoning ordinance was passed the smart people the sharps those seeking alpha those with alpha those that are insiders those that do it professionally took a period of time to digest the ordinance to figure out what was going on.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They hired Valerie Long, a fantastic attorney, who does development, jurisdictional interaction, lobbying, policy, zoning, development. And she said, here's the upside. Here's what you can do. When the smart people got together with extra smart people, they went before council, the Board of Architectural Review, who does not nearly have the acumen and intelligence of the private sector. The private sector realize what we told you all along
Starting point is 00:32:08 that the most affordable dirt in Charlottesville City, 10.2 square miles, was in the black and brown communities. That if you approve this new zoning ordinance, it will go directly the new development of the luxury variety into the black and brown communities. I was told I was a racist for saying this. I said, go ahead and do it. I live in Ivy on four and a half acres in a HOA neighborhood that's never going to be developed.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And land that's in easements that's protected forever. I strategically paid $1.3 million for this property because I know this property will never be developed. And I'm going to go in my backyard and look at four acres of flat grass in the urban ring and my swimming pool while you guys deal with this. call me whatever you want and now exactly what we said has materialized and now the people that said oh
Starting point is 00:33:05 this is BS Lloyd this is BS Juan this is BS and Natalie are flip-flopping where 24 months ago they were pushing it through and you know who's quiet and hush-hush livable Seaville not an ounce of commentary
Starting point is 00:33:22 on social media from that group about the mark not an ounce of of commentary from the tower that's about to block the sun over West Haven. If you live in West Haven, you might as well be living in Anchorage, Alaska, because you're not going to see the sun with a student tower blocking your sunshine. Another one. If you live in 10th and page, get ready. You're next.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Star Hill, get ready. You're next. Fifell, another one's coming your way. Get ready. Because the investors, the speculators, the developers, they're looking at the properties that are dilapidated, and they're going to look at the properties that are dilapidated next to each other. Any investor, developer, or entrepreneur that has dry powder or money at their disposal
Starting point is 00:34:06 or access to any kind of capital whatsoever, this is what you should do. You should get into your GLE Mercedes-Benz. You should get into your X-7 BMW, your Land Rover. You should drive through 10th and Page, Star Hill, and Fifeville with a notepad, you should look at homes that have care that are dilapidated issues with care or upkeep and say, okay, there's one at that address and see if you can find another property that's next to the one that's in bad shape and another one that's next to that. And then you assemble some lots together. You go in to those three lots and say, I will homeowners offer you 10 or 15% over market value right now for your homes.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Give them $900,000 for the three homes. And then you have three lots assembled and do exactly what the mark has done. Is the feed okay? I'm getting comments that the feed is messed up. Is it good? Looks good. That's what you do, viewers and listeners, if you're in the real estate game. Get in your GLE and your X-7.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Go to 10th and page, Star Hill, or Fifeville, and assemble some lots together. The cost to purchase is going to run you just shy of a million dollars. Then get the permitting in play to do the mark and sell the permit suite to an out-of-market developer and four or five extra money without lifting a shovel. Because Osher and Snook and Wade just set your precedent for you. And that's why you watch the show, because we spare no expense. Anything you want to add to that, Judah Wickhauer? No, that's pretty good. but I think my big question is about something that Don Gathers had to say about these developers are Seville's version of white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Go! I mean, that's the question. Does anyone agree with that? Is this a matter of, I mean, is this honestly, does anyone think that this is honestly a picture of developers doing this? because it's because of color? Because I think it's just a matter of, it's just a matter of business. I mean, maybe just another instance of profits over people, right? I don't really think that there's a consideration of color involved here. No, the only color that, you know the only color that discriminates? You know the only color that discriminates, Judah? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:54 What's the only color that discriminates? I'm not sure. It's green. Green is the only color that discriminates. The Almighty Dollar? That's the only color that discriminates is green. Only color that discriminates. And if you want to point a figure at somebody, you point a finger at the lobbying group,
Starting point is 00:37:21 livable CBO. They're the spokesman for out-of-market, deep-pocketed developers. I'd love to see the fundraising that's been done with livable C-Vo. It's an official nonprofit. I'd love to see some of those dollars. Hank Martin, Carol Thorpe, Mark Micah Ferugio. I believe he ran for City Council at one time.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Carly Wagner watching the program, her photo on screen. Hearing all this conflict and criticism, my constructive question for all to think about is this. Can the government enact any measures that will stop gentrification, or is the free market always going to ultimately govern? Is the only option declaring historically black communities as historic districts in issuing highly restrictive regulations on changing the looks of the building and homes in those neighborhoods?
Starting point is 00:38:18 But if they do that, what does that mean to the homeowners in those neighborhoods? Well, if you're a homeowner in those neighborhoods and your neighborhood is restricted with upside, it's going to diminish the value of your house because there's restrictions on it. Here's what happened. By making these by right, it took away the mechanisms
Starting point is 00:38:45 that the black and brown community had at its disposal to slow gentrification. And it was called activism. By making these developments by right, by stripping through zoning and policy, this single family detached, classification by loosening the zoning, by forcing density through livable Seville's new zoning
Starting point is 00:39:12 ordinance, it took away the activism that the black and brown community was able to do to pump the brakes on development. Do you remember when Chris Henry of Stony Point Development was trying to develop the 10th and page neighborhood with his father-in-law's money, Paul Manning, the billionaire's money, Chris Henry went to the Black Church in 10th and page, and he sat there for hours and was verbally massacred by Zion Bryant, Don Gathers, and the activist community. That verbal massacre kept Chris Henry from doing Dairy Central 2.0. Do you remember viewers and listeners?
Starting point is 00:39:59 I do. Do you remember when Bo Carrington of seven developments, had a contract in place to buy Zero East High Street from Wendell Wood, and he was going to build apartment towers in a floodplain on East High Street. And then the activist community tied to the environment, went to City Council and said, Floodplain, 50-year floods, went to City Council and said,
Starting point is 00:40:30 impacts on the Rivana River, impacts on sea creatures, whatever the hell that means. Impact on plants, whatever the hell that means. Impact on water, two miles down the Rivana River, whatever that means. And the environmental activists forced the hand of the free market and kept Wendell Wood from selling his dirt to Bo Carrington to build apartment towers on Zero East High Street.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Bo Carrington had assembled so much land over there. He even owned the double horseshoe saloon. He was going to use the double horseshoe saloon as an entry point to his apartment tower development on Zero East High Street. But the environmental activists in this community lobbied in politic counsel and kept them. Cock blocked them. Cocked blocked Wendell Wood and Bo Carrington from building this project. Tens of millions of, hundreds of millions of dollars with this project. Cock blocked because some folks were concerned about some.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Rivenna Seagull or some Rivana sea urchin or some Rivana mino or some green grass that was growing on the banks of the Rivana. And that cock blocked hundreds of millions of dollars of development. And instead what we have is dirty used white china syringes in the sea creatures place and hundreds of pounds of human waste instead because city council owns city hall owns zero east high Street. Those are examples, Dairy Central 2.0, where Ziona Bryant and Don Gathers and the black community verbally attacked Chris Hedry in a black church and kept him from developing Dairy Central 2.0 in the 10th and Page neighborhood. A second example is the apartment towers on Zero East High Street where the environmental community kept that housing from happening.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And livable Seville and the Rory Stolzenbergs and Matthew Gillikins and the Nicole Scrowes, and the Stephen Johnson's of the world said, hey, look at what happened on Zero East High Street, and look at what happened on Dairy Central. And when you don't make housing by right, these apartments buy right, this is what happens. They get cock blocked,
Starting point is 00:42:46 and that means the cost of existing construction is more valuable. This is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong. And they built this narrative, this marketing campaign, this branding campaign that said, if you're in favor of R1 zoning, of single family detached zoning of neighborhoods in Charlottesville City in Almore County, then you're nothing more than a racist.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That was their whole plan. They did it subconsciously. They did it through this veiled threat of labeling. And that at a time when Charlestville was racially charged, still recovering from August 11th and August 12th, still searching for its identity, was the perfect vulnerable time and place to thread this needle. And I said this, deep throat said this, John Blair said this.
Starting point is 00:43:34 We stood up and we said, if you do this, it's going to impact Fifeield, 10th, and Page, and Star Hill. We said it. Why? Because we effing do this professionally for a living. Literally, we're nuanced. Literally. And then the livable seville crew got the activists on board saying, this is good for you. This is good for you.
Starting point is 00:43:59 and here's what we got. And you can't flip-flop Don Gathers. You can't flip-flop Don Gathers. You can't flip-flop to Kyle Walker. You can't flip-flop Steven Johnson. You can't flip-flop Matthew Gilliken. This is the bed you made, and you need to sleep in this bed. We told you this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You can't flip-flop. You got Versace and Jim Jimmy Chew and Patagonia, Mercedes, and Jeep Cherokee, and BMW X-7s. And you got Roebuck and button-down shirts and sundresses and raybans about the hit Fifeville to the tune you've never seen before. And when the mark is finished, all the dirt around the mark is going to be exponentially more valuable. And when all the dirt around the mark is going to be exponentially more valuable, there's
Starting point is 00:45:00 going to be folks that can't afford the taxes and the upkeep and the insurance all at the same time. And then somebody like me is going to assemble two or three plots together and they're going to take the assemblage of two or three parcels of land, get it permitted and improve, get it ready to rock and roll with a Justin ship with a Valerie Long and they're going to sell the suite to somebody. And then you're going to have the Mark 2.0. And when the Mark 2.0 happens in Fifeville, Star Hill is going to be next. And 10th page is going to be soon there. And then after. Mark it down. And I'm giving you a timeline. It is May 19th, 2026. My timeline, and when this is going to be done, Fifeville, Tethad Page, and Star Hill eviscerated is May 19th, 2031, five years from now.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's May 19th, 2026. By May 19th, 20131, Fifell, Tethed Page, and Star Hill will be no more. Mark it out. I'll give you five years. Don Gathers, best content I've seen. Best content I've ever seen, Don Gathers, including the I Love Seville Show. Welcome to come on the program anytime you want. Best content I've seen of 2026. Carol Thorpe, the queen of Jack Jewett, her photo on screen. Jerry, the result of Don Gathers and Matthew Gilkin's support of upzoning has blown up
Starting point is 00:46:28 up spectacularly in their faces. They've conducted a master class in self-afflicted leftist nonsense. Bravo, gentlemen. Neil Williamson, President of the Free Enterprise Forum, to be fair, applicants are putting their money at risk to construct the community vetted comprehensive plan. Yeah, I get it. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:46:53 The landmark properties is putting its dry powder on the line to build the mark. Well, landmark properties, landmark, you want to handle this, Judah? We have a, I don't think I have a 130. You have me on a one shot? It's 121. I wouldn't have scheduled a meeting during this time. Step outside if you could, please. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:25 What was that about? Oh, that's for a tenant? Yeah. Okay, fantastic. Oh, awesome. Okay. Closing leases and closing deals and raising funding while talking to the community on the I Love Seville Show.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Just got a new lease. I think that's called multitasking. Can people not change their mind, Carly Wagner? People can't change their mind. People can't change their mind with the zoning ordinance that involved a lawsuit. People can't change their mind that went years to put this together. You can't change the rules of the game. When you're playing in the Super Bowl, you don't say, oh, we're going to go from four quarters to six quarters.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And we're going to make the football field 150 years, 150 yards long. And we're going to make touchdowns. now 10 points instead of six, and the extra point's going to be worth five. There's no changing the game. There's no changing the rules. They already changed the rules, and now they've shot the bet. You've got to sleep in the shit. There's no changing the rules.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Michelle Sneed watching the program. The long-term effects of changing the landscape or charm of a place could have negative economic impacts. It's economic incentive clearer and simple. However, I don't understand why the city and the county doesn't have ordinances to prevent the deterioration of the aesthetic. landscape of the area. Ray Cadill says the feed is okay. The county has the best rules in place. I love the county. Don't change those rules county. Five percent of Alamoa County is allocated for
Starting point is 00:49:23 development. Five percent of it. I don't care that the topography of that five percent is not conducive to a full five percent of development. That five percent is not close to being fully developed. Do not expand that five percent Almore County Board of Supervisors. You were not elected by voters in Amarro County to expand the 5% development area. You will be held accountable on this talk show if you try to expand the 5% development area. Plain and simple. Your voters did not put you into office to expand the development area from 5%, period, bar none. And the 5% is not even close to being developed.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And if you're a viewer and listener that doesn't want to be a part of this cacophony of craziness, find yourself some dirt and a home in an HOA community where covenants and restrictions supersede zoning and then find yourself an HOA neighborhood that's adjacent to conservation easements and land that's in conservation protection. That's what we did. No changing the rules.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Changing rules. play a game of squash. Now the game's 15 points and not 11. Anything you want to add to this? No, I think you're doing great. Changing the rules. This is what happens when you let, this is what, you know what this is?
Starting point is 00:51:00 This is what happens when you let the dodo bird try to fight for survival with the bald eagles. You give a bunch of road kill on the 250 bypass and you say, here's three dozen bald eagles and here's three dozen dodo birds and this is the only food that you have left
Starting point is 00:51:24 whoever gets the food gets to survive and keeps their breed alive, go. You got a bunch of dodo birds fighting bald eagles. In this free market we call capitalism and Darwinistic, the strong survive. And when you look, let the speech therapist and the UVA professors bully the $18,000 a year salaried employees that formerly were parks and wreck employees into a zoning ordinance that was ripped and reap with disaster and peril.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The bald eagles just sit back and wait to see what happens. And then the bald eagles get all the roadkill and they stay alive while the dodo birds go extinct. I'll save all the other topics on the I Love Seville Show until tomorrow. Judah Wickhauer and Jerry Miller, we're going to close the show with the best popcorn possible. The only time in I Love Sevo Show history, we've played a clip three times. It's so damn good.
Starting point is 00:52:30 My favorite comment from this is when he says, that's like taking your shirt off because you crapped your pants. Even Judah Wickhauer is laughing hysterically to it right now. Took his shirt off to crapped his pants. Do you have that ready to go? Always. We'll close with Don Gathers and then sent us to the Market Street camera on what is the water cooler of content and conversation. The water cooler of content in conversation.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's the I Love Seville Show. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Donne Gathers. Thank you. Don. Don. Good evening. Don Gathers, City resident.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I do not come here this evening in peace. I come today trying my best to understand why some of you still continue to ignore the will of the peace. Some of you have seemingly sold what's left of your soul to the countless stream of developers that continuously swoop into Charlottesville. Councilor Payne, Councillor Fleischer, I applaud you for standing firm listening to the people in doing what you knew was morally right. The other three of you, Lloyd, Natalie, and Juan Diego, the egregious, horrific vote that you placed at the last City Council meeting will probably be your lasting legacy. You all routinely and systematically go against the very direction of the boards and commissions that you've impanled. You disregard the words of the citizens heard during community matters.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Lord, you have morphed into Charlottesville's version of Rudy Giuliani. Brazen, verbose, mean-spirited, and wrong, all while snookering the people of Charlottesville. Natalie, you would seemly be the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan could procreate. Your ultronomics bear the hope of trickle down housing that does not, has not, and will not manifest itself in any meaningful way. And you, Juan Diego, you are turning into the Mike Signor 2.0. To hell with the people, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. You won't sit on the precipice of becoming a modern-day Negro pean.
Starting point is 00:54:49 What? Negro pean. You are the Charlottesville's answer to Clarence Thomas, leading the charge for the newest version of Jim Crow redlining, betraying the people of Charlottesville. I would like to think there is presently a crisis of conscience, yet I'm left to wonder if there is a conscience. What you demonstrate is not leadership, it's cowardice. Coward is in its worst form. You're being used as the modern-day racist tools of white supremacy. You seem your seemingly thoughtless actions will surely drive up the
Starting point is 00:55:27 homelessness, the homeowner's cost and taxes, causing many of them to have to have to have to leave their family homes. This at best is backdoor gentrification. These developers are Charlottesville's weapons of mass destruction. You would never allow this to go on in Greenbrier or Park Street or Belmont. You may think that this fixes the previous screw-up on the zoning ordinance, but in reality it's the moral equivalence of changing your shirt because you've crapped your pants. While your actions will surely expand the city's tax base, it will simultaneously change the very landscape of the the Fifeville community.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It will most assuredly change the fabric of an established community that you were elected in part to protect and not to destroy. You were elected to represent all the people, not just the rich, but here you've missed the mark. Thank you.

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