The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - AlbCo Cyber Attack/City Parking Garage AI Liabilities; Just The World We Live In Now Around CVille?

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you for joining us on a Thursday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. It's great to be with you and connect through the I Love Seville Network. This is our flagship show, the five-day-a-week program, the water cooler of content and conversation. A lot to cover on the broadcast. Take a look at the screen for today's headlines. We'll talk an Admiral County cyber attack and concerns around artificial intelligence and the Charlottesville parking garage.

We're the first to break the news about the parking garage and the AI technology on the program here. We asked the question about the parking garage, artificial intelligence technology to manage parking, inflow and outflow at the Market Street garage and the Water Street garage. The other media outlets have since followed suit. I'm going to utilize that topic as a platform point. to ask you, the viewer and listener, and Judah Wickhauer, my esteemed colleague, is this just a world we're living in? I mean, Al Morrow County has got a ridiculous cyber attack, Judah. They are now offering Al Morrow County's instructions on how to check and preserve and protect

and analyze credit and other data points that were exposed to Igor, the Russian hacker. The parking garage is a vulnerability waiting to happen, a liability for the city of Charlottesville waiting to happen. It's so obvious, is it not, that what's going to happen in the Market Street and the Water Street parking garage is a S-H-I-T show waiting to happen? Yeah, potentially. Igor, the Russian hacker, is going to get your data there as well. The Daily Progress had to pay out $9 million, Lee Enterprises, the parent company of the Daily Progress for for data subscriber credit card information addresses personal information data birthdays obtained by Igor the Russian hacker is this just the world we live

in I mean is it going to get to the point Judah where the hacking of our data at the local level it's one thing for this to happen at like the macro level with like the banks it's a one thing for this to happen at like, you know, the macro level with some like Fortune 500 companies. It's another thing altogether for you to go into the Amaral County office building, pay your taxes, and have your data stolen by Igor, the Russian hacker. It's another thing altogether for you to pull the family Ford Explorer into the Market Street parking garage next to the police station and have Igor, the Russian hacker, um, capture your credit card information, your license plane information.

the make model and vehicle of your car and basically when you're going in and out of the parking garage five days a week for 52 weeks a year geez louise daily progress is the same is this just the expectation at the local level it's going to continue happening as well we'll talk about that on the show i also ladies and gentlemen want to discuss on today's program the most dangerous roads in the city of charlesville the charlesville area almore county included is dickwood's road on that list of the most dangerous roads is old ballard and ivy that connects um you know into floridan and then kind of goes across that bridge by ivory nursery on that road how about some of those roads in st george or dyke virginia some of those roads in earlysville what is the most dangerous road in the greater charlesville

area. How about profit road, that one lane bridge? Yeah. Where does that stack up is one of the most dangerous roads? Or is it so obvious it's something like Route 29, the most dangerous road in Charlottesville. There's a hill near UVA that might count. Judas says the most dangerous road in the Charlottesville area is a hill near UVA. We'll talk about that. I almost killed someone on it once. On today's show. You drive like Mario Andretti. Just to watch him bleed. No, I'm just kidding. You drive like Mario Andretti. I was not

driving like Mario and Dreddy. The man is talking off camera with his face, not being on camera again. Makes me look like I'm talking to no one here on the broadcast. This is a big no-no in broadcasting 101, but that's okay. That's okay. It's the holiday spirit and we're in the holiday mood today. I'm going to highlight why I

love the Borshead Winter Wonder. And Judah is going to highlight why he hates the Borset Winter Wonder. On today's program. There was a proposal yesterday at the Boershead Winter Wonder with the lights. I heard about that. A gentleman asked his fiancé

to marry him through the Boar's Head lights in the sky. And we are happy to let everyone know that it was not in vain. She said yes. She said yes. What's the tagline? Are you two-shot it? Can you two-shot please?

She said yes. What's that tagline? She said yes. Is that Jared? Is that Jared or Debeer's? No, I think that's Jared. She said yes, right? She said yes. It's a popular phrase for engagement. I think that's a Jared. Is that a Jared tagline, ladies and gentlemen? What's the Jared tagline? Some of the best taglines ever in Virginia, Charlottesville, Virginia history, there goes to the fire truck. I'm doing the cross, although I'm Southern Baptist. I'm doing the cross here. Southern Baptists do not do the cross, but I was reared. I was educated in a

Catholic school in Williamsburg, grew up in a relatively Jewish neighborhood. Religiously confused. A religious mutt. Some of the best taglines locally, who's got your back, Scott Wagner, chiropractic and sports medicine, and interstate a home's best friend, ISC, taglines that we had our hands on here at our firm. Also on the program, we're going to talk about that line moving with Virginia football. It opened at seven points.

It's now four points. So the betting public. saw that seven-point spread when it initially opened Missouri, UVA's opponent, as being too much. So some of the betting public put their money on the University of Virginia, which made the line move and become more narrow. I had a conversation yesterday with Wayne Crawford of Crawford and Crawford remodeling, diehard Virginia fan. I saw him in passing, Jude on the downtown mall. he stopped me we talked about virginia football we both were in absolute agreement that this was going to be virginia's stiffest competition yet missouri at eight and four eight four overall

uh janus boyce travillian has a has a answer on the most dangerous roads in the greater charltsville area and one of the roads she suggests is in the louisa county area what are the most dangerous roads out there it's hard to beat dickwood's road i'm going to ask you juda wickower What are the most dangerous roads out there? Albert Graves watching the program. He's a fantastic human being. Lives, I think, in the Crozay area. His nickname Warrior A.G., Albert Graves.

He's a hokey fan, a commander's fan. He's got some comments about the cyber attacks in Amaral County, and he highlights the $20 million anonymous donation that Virginia Tech was bestowed. The largest donation in Virginia Tech Athletics History a $20 million anonymous donation. I'll tell you what, Albert Graves, I hate to say this because you know I'm a die-hard orange and blue fan.

You know, I have tremendous respect for you, sir. But Virginia Tech has got some momentum with the James Franklin hire. I'm curious to see if Marcus Biscuit Higgins goes to Blacksburg and joins James Franklin, his former head coach, as an offensive assistant in Hokie Land. It would be a challenging choice for Marcus Biscuit Higgins because he's one of the greatest football players in University of Virginia history, a punt returner, a wide receiver, and most known as a

quarterback who dawn number 18, who had many years of success in the National Football League, assistant coach at UVA, a little bit of fallout with Tony Elliott, as we learned on the Jerry a Jerry show this week. Then he heads to Penn State, James Franklin. Interestingly, Vanessa Parkhill is watching the program. She sent me a direct message late. Vanessa Parkhill, you were up late. What were you watching on television, my friend, when you were up late? I think you sent it to me in the 2 o'clock hour. The subject of her Facebook message to me was the play-calling responsibilities of Anthony Poindexter. Anthony Poindexter, the safeties coach at Penn State, the UVA former safety,

one of the best football players in Virginia football history. He will be the play caller defensively for the Nitty Lions when they, when they play in their bowl game in the pinstripe bowl. So Poindexter, the defensive play caller for Penn State in the bowl game, Anthony Poindexter needs to be a head coach. He's a head coach waiting to happen. Bob Yarborough, Vanessa Parkill, James Watson, we'll get to your comments in a matter of moments.

I want to set the stage on our first two headlines. Do you want to start with the cyber attack of Almaro County, and let's welcome the debonair, the charismatic, the conversationalist, the confident, the charming, the colloquial, Judah Wickhauer to the program. You don't buy a colloquial? Do you even know what that means? Yeah.

Having a dialect and vocate word choice that's tied locally to this area. I have that? I would say you do. I don't know how. You live here for 20 years. Okay. Geez, 20 years. 20 years is not going to have an influence on your life.

I mean, I've had, what was it? I don't remember who it was. Somebody recently was like asking me about my, about where I was from and I was like, kind of a mutt. You're from Charlesville, Judah. No, I'm not. You've lived here for 20 years. That is virtually half your life. when people ask where are you from i've lived here for 25 years that's more than half my life was i born here no was i raised here no but i've lived here for 25 years i came here as the first year at the university of virginia i'm from charlesville you've been here two decades a generation you're from charlesville what are you going to say california you're going to say main originally california you're going to say charleston charleston i had a great dinner there once but uh Set the stage, my friend, as we give some love to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, 61 consecutive

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It is a fantastic website. Beautifully designed and develop Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company.com. Whoever did that, well done. 100%. 100%. Anything swimming pool related. It's Charlottesville Swimmingpool Company.com.

A sister company to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. cyber attacks in Almaro County, a second one. Geez, Louise. Yep, the first one, June this year, took down Lee Enterprises. There was no newspaper for how long? No, Almarl County. Admiral County. Almarl County.

You're talking about a cyber attack with the daily progress. I'm talking Al Morrow County's cyber attack. That's where you're supposed to, this is your headline, my friend. I think it fits the theme that we're talking about. The who, what, when, where, why is your job on the show? Well, I don't have the who what, where, there was a cyber attack in Admiral County. And a lot of, the second cyber attack in Albemarle County, ladies and gentlemen. And a lot of, a lot of records and information were dispersed and potentially, you know,

shared with people who are not going to do good things with it. Igor, the Russian hacker. Or, let's call it, uh, let's call it, uh, let's call it, uh, let's call it. at Rodian, the Russian hacker, because that's a character in a Russian novel, who uses an axe to hack people. I have no idea what you're talking about. I have no doubt this is actually true. There's a Russian novel that you've read and a gentleman that's Russian hacked people with an axe.

It's a Dostoevsky novel, Crime and Punishment. There's a character named Rodion who uses an axe to murder a pawnbroker. I thought it fit. perfect timing perfect timing the extent of my reading is Who Moved My Cheese by Spencer Johnson

have you read Who Move My Cheese If you haven't I promise you can read it about an hour to 90 minutes Who Move My Cheese is a fantastic book that anyone should read I read it, I own it I love it, I suggest it

Who Move My Cheese It'll take you about an hour to 90 minutes to read Regardless this is the question I have for you in the last six months, my friend, we've had two cyber attacks at Almaro County, where Almaro County's data has been exposed to hackers in the black web

to the point that Almaro County is now offering a punch list of what we can do as Almaro Countyans to protect, preserve, rehabilitate, analyze, study, basically resuscitate, credit scores, vulnerability data points that were revealed to bad actors. And then within the last- That checklist should be S-O-P anyways. S-O-P?

Standard operating procedure. I mean, they should have that available to everyone everywhere. Shouldn't standard operating procedure be Almaro County, the county we live in, we pay taxes to you. More than $600 million a year, your budget, should be protect our data? This is the second hack by, Amarro County. Daily Progress expose the data points Lee Enterprises of its subscribers,

$9 million plus lawsuit, or excuse me, a $9 million plus payout for Lee Enterprises. Okay. We also have the flock cameras that people crapped all over, activists, 150 of them in this community. Actually, I think the new number for the activists that activate in this community, I'm going to put it right at like $100,000. 11, 112 activists in this community. So what does flock, what do

flock cameras have to do with hacking? I'm just saying, this world we live in is a world where everything is tracked. We're going to now be going in parking garages. Oh, yeah. The city council clerk, the clerk of city council legitimately said, and Sean Tubbs is reporting today. And remember, we put this in the news cycle days ago on the I Love Seville show.

Everyone's responding to it now. the clerk of Charlottesville city council said and Sean Tubbs is reporting today you will not be allowed to leave the parking garage if you don't download the app wow good luck I what if my 75 year old father and mother going to the parking garage if there are no key of flip phone they don't even know how to text when she texts me she texts tries to text me stuff and it just ends up being dot dot dot

dot like a blank text shows up they have a burner phone they pay by the minute and by the text my parents on their Nokia good lord literally why you haven't like dragged them into the the 21st century

dude we would need to sit on a family therapist and psychologist couch for about six months to unpack this relationship, my friend. Yes, I've suggested they should get an iPhone, a droid, or some kind of smartphone. Yes, I've suggested my 75-year-old father who needs two knee replacements, who walks by himself at night without a flashlight and a phone, recently off quadruple heart surgery, diabetic and early onset Parkinson, to have at least a phone with him when he's walking at night for exercise. Yes, I've suggested they should not drive to California to visit my brother and his wife, my two nieces, their granddaughters,

my niece and nephew, their granddaughter and grandson, from North Carolina, they're driving to California, a 75-year-olds. It falls on deaf ears. You need six. months of therapy to unpack this relationship. But what happens if they come and visit? They're like, son, we're proud of you, Jerry. We don't know what we're proud of. We're not exactly sure what we're proud of, but you're our son. We would like to see the office building that you have slowly acquired and what you've done with it. Your father can't walk. We're going to park in this parking garage that's right next to your building we're going to pull in we don't see that well we're 75 we don't see the signs that

says you can't exit without a phone and when we do see it we don't care and when we do see it we don't care you're 100% right because we're cremuchins what are they going to do what are they going to do they're not letting you out of the garage mom and dad don't do it don't do it mom and dad that's when you drive through the uh the arm no that's that's Then I get the emergency phone call. You've got to help us. Use your phone, mom and dad. We can't download the app.

You can't download the app. They won't let us out, Jerry. Come help us. Is this just the world we live in now? It is. And it's not just... But it's happening at the local level. I have these expectations at the macro level, not the local level.

But it's not just hacking. It's electronics. We've, you know, remember when, remember when the phone was attached to the wall and had a cord that, that stretched, and... Love that time. I remember in third or fourth grade, prank calling Jennifer Dively. She would pick up the phone when I was in third or fourth grade. She'd say hello. And for some reason, Jerry...

You'd ask her if she had Prince Albert in the can. Jerry's third or fourth grade in mine just decided to hang on the phone and not say anything. Hello? Is that you again? Hello? And I wouldn't say anything. Did it three or four times. Didn't realize they had that figure out phone number. Is it 411? Or what is it? What's the numbers you pushed on the keypad of the rotary phone? To figure out the callback number? Did that number? Do that four or five times? Jennifer's dad calls you right back. My dad answers the phone. What do you mean? We've been calling you all night. Jerry? Mr. Daively's on the phone. You've been calling them all night? No? No. learned a lesson that way such as life i expect the data vulnerability at a macro level a national level i don't expect it in charlesville and how would i curb or change my behavior is it to an extent of paying everything in person interestingly when real estate taxes are less and less of that available well almore county still has the real estate tax box outside the office building

where you can drop off checks and the white box. City of Charlottesville still has the tax box outside of City Hall where we can drop off real estate and personal property taxes outside and the white box. Are we better suited as we head into 2026 paying things like personal and real estate, personal property taxes and real estate taxes with a check and an envelope, in a box, in the cloak of darkness, in a dimly litted asphalt parking lot across from a Wendy's

where we can then get a junior bacon cheeseburger and a frosty? Or make some money behind the dumpster? What are you doing behind the dumpster? I don't. Okay, I don't want to know. It's a joke. So, my question is how many people even still have checks?

I mean, the business community still has checks. Yeah. Although I am now doing my invoicing to clients, the team, the firm started, is doing its invoicing to clients, and we're now including a business VEMO, a business Zell, and other credit card digital waste. It's wild. I would rather now in 2025, going into 2026, have the monthly retainer checks pay through Zell or business Venmo or even credit card than have one of the clients

mail the monthly retainer checks in the mail because those checks could come weeks later. Yeah. And we have a PO box at the post office. Or they get mysteriously lost. That happened to one of our clients. We had to go pick them up. Think about the bad business practice.

Mail us the check for your monthly retainer. It gets lost in the mail. and then I pay a staff writer to get in there, I pay a staffer, a colleague, someone's on salary, to take part of their day, to get in the car, to go pick up the check that's taken 50 days to come to us through snail mail on company time. How many times are you losing there

as the small business owner? And you don't know if they actually sent the check. I mean, that's the big part of it. I give them the benefit of the doubt. Well, yeah, of course you give people the benefit of the doubt. Well, historically, historically the clients we have on our roster have been with us for, I mean, many of the clients we have on our roster have been with us for, you know, years, if not, almost, you know, 15. We have some clients on the roster that have been with us like 15 plus years.

Yeah, but we discussed it today. It's not always, you know, whether it's, whether it's the client, whether it's mismanagement or forgetfulness, or whether it's the, you know, do we place all. all the blame on the United States Post Office because we all know that the post office in Charlottesville has its issues, but I don't think they are the worst of the worst. I think they get the job done fairly well most of the time, and they deserve credit for that. But yes, there are mishaps, which makes it easy for someone to say, oh, you know, I put it in the mail, whether they did or not, and just blame the United States post office.

I'm at the downtown post office because we have a PO box and that's where we collect retainer checks and services render checks at the PO box. I'm out there, what, once a day, Monday through Friday? You're there, what, twice a week, three times a week? Yeah.

And in the best case scenario, the post office downtown has two people working it. Most scenarios, it has one person working the post office. I mean, I think there's always two people there. Sometimes one of them gets a break. I think that's okay. I mean, it is bananas that a downtown postage hub has one, max two people work. Yeah, but it's not the, you know, it's not quite the hub that the 29 offices.

It's downtown Charlottesville, gee. I know that. It's a huge hub. It's downtown Charlottesville. The point is this. What are you doing viewers and listeners to protect your data points going into 2026 when at a local or micro, grow level, our data is compromised constantly. In the last six months, the jurisdiction, Almaro County has had two cyber attacks. In the last six months, Charlottesville City crushed

the flock cameras and then did the exact same thing in the parking garage at a much more risky exposing standpoint with the parking garage. And in the last six months, the paper of record has shared your potential data with Igor the Russia. This is all in six months in Charlottesville. I mean, are we going to go back to carrier pigeon, snail mail, and the checks, real estate property and personal property, real estate taxes and personal property at the windows in person? I have that question for you, the viewers and listeners. Comments are coming in. Albert Graves, he highlights his concern with the second cyber attack in the county. And he also highlights that the Hokies got a huge $20 million donation, the most significant donation.

in Virginia Tech history, athletics history, a $20 million donation. Ray Cadell is watching the program. He says, I'm a proud hokey dad. Janice Bois Trevillian, her photo on screen, my 93-year-old dad text messages like a champion. Janice Boyce Trevillian, my mom is British. She moved to England, moved from England to Georgia.

Her accent is very interesting. And Janice Bois Trevillian highlights that Shannon Hill and Louisa is an incredibly dangerous road. Logan Wells Claylow, welcome to the broadcast. Thank you for watching. James Watson is watching the program. He says this. The Virginia Tech Hokies have to win

because they don't really have anything else. No trophies, nothing, nothing at all. James Watson throwing some shade at the Hokies. Bob Yarborough, the King of Redfields, one of the best neighborhoods out there, Redfields. Literally, for the money, it's hard to argue with Redfields not being one of the best neighborhoods out. there. I sincerely mean that. I used to live in Redfields. Rockledge Drive. Fantastic house at the end of

Rockledge Drive up on the hill on a cul-de-sac. Hard to argue for the money, not one of the best neighborhoods out there. And Holmes and Redfields appreciate every year, ladies and gentlemen. Demand is significant. Holmes rarely stay on the market in Redfields. Bob Yarborough, the king of Redfields, interesting John Blair tied to Redfields. Mr. Yarbril says, I, S-H-I-T-U- not. This is the third occasion that our info has been exposed in a hack in the past 18 months. None of these because of my laxity or carelessness on my part. You are right. It is a fact of current life from Bobby Arbor. Yeah. And it's not just, it's not just your city halls and your, it's everything. I mean, whether it's Netflix, it's Amazon. It's everywhere. It's

personal attacks. I mean, I'm hearing, I hear ads on the radio for, uh, for worrying about, uh, worrying about your, uh, your mortgage, not your mortgage, but your, uh, you know, your, your, your title, how somebody can go in, file a few things and next thing you know, you're getting messages that, uh, that your home is being foreclosed or whatnot. Uh, there's, there's, there's personal, I mean, I don't know how many people have been, have been hit by, uh, by an email scam, fishing scams, whatever. There are obviously various different kinds of them. I've been hit by them.

My dad got text messages from someone claiming to be his partner's mother, wanting to get some gift cards for her son. And I don't remember how much he spent, but eventually one of us in the family was like, wait a minute here why are we buying gift cards and sending the numbers

to some to your partner's mother at which point we realized well that money is gone how much was that? It was a few hundred dollars you need to lay off the gummies that are in the fridge. That wasn't

trust me my dad is not the only person getting hit by these types of scams and I've been hit I got hit by one where I at work on the clock what at work on the clock you got hit by one you went and pulled out like $1,800 in cash didn't you not on the clock and got it back no I didn't do that on the clock thank goodness you had a forgiving boss that was okay with you figuring this out on the clock I was not figuring it out on the clock you were figuring it out on the clock you don't realize that we have cameras all over here tracking every keystroke you do sure

I believe you 100%. Comments coming in quickly on the program. John Blair says this. As a former Rockledge resident, I bet you remember that awesome Halloween trail there. I truly hope you, Judah, and everyone has a great holiday season. Kickback, have a cocktail, and enjoy yourself. John Blair, thank you, my friend.

Thank you. Cheers to you. All right, next topic. What do you got? Let's see. And Vanessa Parkhill makes this comment, the queen of Burlesville, the city seems to be creating more reasons for people to stay away from downtown than to attract people. And that's in reference to the artificial intelligence parking garage. I'm just, I'm flabbergasted by it. Not just that, but, uh, this is literally

someone who has so much skin in the game downtown. That is, it just, ah, not just the parking garage, though, but mixing the, nixing a, a ordinance that they themselves came up with and then decided, uh, you know, we don't like our own idea. we're going to table that indefinitely and just, you know, we'll wait because, you know, we already have like half a tool in our toolbox and that's more than enough so, yeah, but next up

we have the most dangerous roads. What? Do you have a suggestion for the most dangerous road? And this is the Charlottesville area. It doesn't have to be the city. The Charlottesville area. Do you have a suggestion for the most dangerous road? I don't know the name of the... This is like, What do you mean you don't know? This is the whole point of the show.

18 years ago, I almost killed someone near UVA because I was heading down a hill and I was not driving like, what did you say it was? Mario Andretti? No, Mario Andretti. I was not driving like that. It was snowy out. And this person was crossing the road against the light

and I'm rolling down the hill, not going fast, but as soon as I, so much as tap the brakes, I just went into a straight-up slide. And I'm heading straight towards this person. And not once did they look at me. Just walked, walked, walked. Then how'd you not hit them? I probably missed them by about six inches or foot.

And did they know? No, they never once looked over at me. I just slid right behind them as they walked on with their umbrella, snow falling across the, you know, the halogen lights. at UVA it was nuts as as someone who spent was beating out of my chest many years lord please don't let me kill this idiot as someone who spent many years deep throat you're on deck as someone who has spent many years friends viewers and listeners stumbling around grounds in the UVA corner um i can attest from firsthand experience point of view and perspective that the university of virginia

students that are walking around grounds and UVA legitimately think they are invincible that cars will not hurt them and that you, the driver of the vehicle, will stop at all costs to protect their life and safety. That's the way some people think. 18 to 22-year-olds are wild with their thinking. Or in my case, 18 to 24-year-olds. I never thought that way.

I don't care what age I was. Deep Throat makes this comment, number one of the family, his photo on screen. Can you imagine how many times the entire garages at Market Street and Water Street will be paralyzed by someone, a car that is blocking the exit because they could not get the app to work for them.

That's a great point. Yeah. It's a great point. What if you forget your phone? And what happens when the parking garage gets hacked and nobody can get in? Well, I guess... What is City of Charlottesville thinking here? and the heels of the eradication of flock as well it's just what are they thinking yeah next headline

what do you got oh the most dangerous roads i got to add mine my most dangerous roads i think are dickwood's road that windy road off ivy road that leaves you to ragged mountain farm uh rosemont that area over there i'm sure by the 64 entrance and exit and ivy Dickwood's road is a, I mean, it's scary, scary road, especially at night. The road that is, I think, Old Ballard that connects, is it Old Ballard? What is the name of that road that runs it connects to Florida? Gosh, I'm so bad with directions. I kind of see if I can find it on a map.

That connects to the one-lane bridge by ivory nursery. that road is dangerous as all get out let me see if i can find it you know what i'm talking about right judah help me out here this is where we're supposed to be complimentary and broadcasting skill set i think i had to take that road once yeah everyone's taking that road haven't no i think it was uh i couldn't i couldn't get out of your place because uh i think it's old baller because there was a train i think it's old baller that one's on my most dangerous list i mean route 29 as dangerous as all get out. I don't care what you say.

29? Yeah. People haul an ASS on that road. We've been in and out of traffic as if it's Formula One? What are your most dangerous roads out there, viewers, and listeners? Put the comments of the feed. We'll relay them live on air.

Mine is a clear-cut old Dickwood's road for me. Next headline, what do you got you to work? Next, we have... Why Jerry likes Winter Wander, why Judah does not. Bah, humbug. That's not exactly fair. Just so our viewers know, this is more for discussion's sake. Entertainment and Lightman and Education.

Disliking Winter Wander. Okay, how about this? Do this. On a scale to 1 to 10, Winter Wander at the Borset. And if you watch or listen to the show or know anything about me at all, I'm a huge fan of the amenities. and the activities, the work environment offered, the live, work, play, everything at the Borset.

I take many meetings there. I play many a squash match there. Our children enjoy life there. It's a good spot. Okay. I am a huge fan of Winter Wonder. I think it's a lot of family entertainment. I think the light show every year,

Kevin Thurman has done a great job of improving it and making it more dynamic. I think they've widened the window of engagement and participation. It's longer now. It's before Thanksgiving. It's after New Year's now, Winter Wonder. They offer discounts. If you're going to make the argument about price point, there are discounts out there. You just got to find them.

Find them online with a little bit of elbow grease with digital search. I like the light show in the sky. I like the walk around. It's new. it's new this year i've heard they've got something like that uh i think they should expand on their uh their puzzles a little bit they're a little simplistic there's children doing winter wonder like my three-year-old and seven-year-old of course the scavenger hunt puzzles have to be simplistic and they're all being led around by their parents who are the ones actually doing do you actually think

three and four-year-olds are writing down the letters on the baby boers and spelling out whatever it is that it's supposed to spell our seven-year-old leads the winter wonder scavenger hunt puzzle solving goodness gracious bah humbug no photos with santa claus ever in the history of juda wickhauer's life enough with the personal attacks on a scale of one to louis Ginter, I give... Oh, you're going to say, because the Richmond Christmas Light Show at Lewis Ginter, that's the comparison. How can you not make the comparison?

Have you been to Louis Ginter? I have. Probably two or three years ago. How long has the Louis Ginter Light Show been around? Oh, they're celebrating their 40th anniversary at Lewis Ginter. It's impressive. 40 years. Winter, winter is what?

Five years? you give Kevin Thurman and you give Russ Kronberg and Borset a chance to get eight times the lifespan that Lewis Ginter has you might have something comparable and aren't you driving to Richmond

throwing shade on Christmas what's the on a scale of 1 to 10 I'm a 12 on Winter Wonder I like the Christmas with Santa the most authentic Santa Claus you will ever see as that Winter Wonder that is Santa Claus that is St. Nick

most authentic one ever So, let's see, they do have, they do have some great hot chocolate. They also have, I filled a, I filled a couple napkins with those, those colored, they're basically Smarties. You know what I'm talking about? Smarties, candy. Okay. But they're shaped like stars and moons or whatever. I don't know.

Why'd you fill them in a napkin? To put them on my pocket. That's called stealing. No, it's not. Felt them in a napkin and I put them in a pocket? They had like a vat and it was all there to like to put in your, put in your, your hot chocolate or on your whatever else you got that. Those are ornamental or toppings for hot chocolate, not to pack in a napkin and put in

your denim. And I got hot chocolate, as did half my family. Tusha. Tusha. Tush. Curtis Shaver watching the program, his photo on screen. He says, old Garth Rose. a.k.a. 21 Curves is the deadliest. I believe Curtis Schaber, if memory serves,

I've known Curtis Schaber for almost a generation, dated a beautiful lady that lived in that old Garth area. Is that, is that correct, Curtis? Now married to the most beautiful lady of them all, fantastic human and Julian. He also says 29 past Halloween. I see an accident at least once a week. 20 towards Scottsville and Free Union Road, also extremely dangerous. There says 20 south going to Scottsville between 5 and 6.30 p.m. on the weekdays is a dangerous as all get out. I'll give winner a 10. Let's go to 1 at 10. I'll give it an 11.

What do you give it? I give it a 7. I'll be generous and give it a 7. And is it because of price point? Is that why? That's a part of it. I mean, it's not a big part of it. But, I mean, having gone there like three years in a row, there's not a whole lot of variance between the visits.

I'm just being honest. It's a light show. Jason Johnson, his company does a fantastic drone show at Winter Wonder. Good job, I'm sure. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that having been there three years in a row, it's like, okay, we were here last year. It was very similar to this year. The puzzle is a little simple.

deep throw bah humbuging with judah over here i'm with team judan winter wonder we have gone every year this year is the first one we skipped even my kids were over it even with all the hot chocolate of marshmals it's just too damn cold there was a giant one of these in austin called the trail of lights felt the same way too cold i call it the trail of tears because i was crying with cold by the time we made it halfway good lord gentlemen i love you both trail of tears got so Scrooge McDuck getting visited by the three ghosts of Christmas pass over here. Old Scrooge. Next headline.

Oh, I got a 145 over here. What's the next headline? What do you got? Top vacant storefront. All right. Let's save this one for tomorrow's show. I'll wet your appetite with this, viewers and listeners. What is the most appealing vacancy that's now on the market?

And there's a lot of them. Jeez, Louise. Little Johns. Yep. Tonic restaurant. Soon to be. Commonwealth Skybar. And that leads us into the next headline.

Did Dirty Aces Bar and Grill ever open in the old mooses? Remember the Dirty Aces logo? Make sure you have the Dirty Aces logo for tomorrow's show. We'll save this for tomorrow's show as well. The only logo in Charlottesville, Virginia history, potentially, of two buxom blonde beauties, bikini-clad. Brunette. Okay, sorry. You've really, sorry.

I mean, come on now. One was a brunette. Two buxom blonde bikini-clad beauties in a logo over the old Moose's diner. Why is it dirty Ace's bar and grill ever open? Their last, I believe that the last Facebook post was in September.

Their September in the comment section said were days away from opening. And they gutted the place and renovated it. Has Jordan ever opened? I'm fighting a frog in my throat here. All right. And the last headline, we'll put it on screen.

That line for that football game, UVA and the Gator Bowl is moved. Mizzou open as a seven-point favorite. Now a four-point favorite. The betting public says, and the words of Lee Corso. Not so fast, my friends. Now I know this quote.

For good Lord. For Judah Wickcaro, take us out of the show. for me, me, Judah Wickhauer, and Jerry Miller, who's no longer on screen, let's see if we can get him on camera somehow. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful weekend. We will probably see you tomorrow. Thank you.