The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Albemarle Co School Board Meeting Tonight, 630PM; Allison Spillman Will Officially Quit School Board

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the water cooler of content and conversation. This is the number one watched and listened to media platform in Charlottesville, Almaro County, and across Central Virginia, and it's not even close. We appreciate you, the viewership, and the listenership for being a part of our family and for helping shape the discussion. There's a lot we're going to cover on the broadcast today. I'm going to ask you to Wickhauer what intrigues him about today's show. We were off yesterday, back at the saddle today. Did the city do Charlottesville a disservice by not, I don't think commemorating is the right word,

remembering, acknowledging August 11th and August 12th. Should A11, A12, which is what, nine-year anniversary? Should that have been acknowledged in any capacity by Charlottesville City City Hall in any capacity? I'm not saying we throw a parade, obviously, but should there have been any acknowledgement, any mention about these events? I want to have that conversation with you, the viewer, and listener on today's show. Is the video choppy? It should be better now. Okay.

We're good. The video is good? Okay. Judah Wickhauer is behind the screen. We will see Judah Wickhauer. matter of moments. We'll talk on today's program about the Albar County School Board meeting from tonight. The last appearance for Allison Spillman on the Almore County School Board, remember this is the vice chair, Allison Spillman. We have a prop bet, Judah Wickhauer and I, Holly Foster's covering Judah Wickhauer's

action, a bottle of scotch. Will Allison Spillman cry tonight or not in her last meeting? I will be watching that meeting closely. I think it's going to be probably the most watched and listened to a school board meeting in Almaro County in a very, very long time. We'll talk about 191 apartments planned for the holiday in on Emmett Street. Some of those are affordable, Judah.

I want to talk UVA football training camp. Really, the training camp headline. The sports headlines should always be in slot seven, J-Dubs. Headline 7 is always the sports headline for our rundown. So if you want to substitute the North Point headline with the UVA headline, in our rundown, that would be preferred. So sports is always in the seventh slot.

And if you need to make the North Point headline a little bit shorter, you can use 250K, with a big K, to gain some character spacing on that headline. I want to talk North Point in a refined 250,000 square foot commercial footprint, ladies and gentlemen. North Point is a place, ladies and gentlemen, north of Almoreau County that is going to be, you know, I'm talking about a driver, if you may, of economic vitality, housing, live, work, play. We'll talk about that on the show today. I want to give some attention to Snow Nose, Corbyn's Snow's firm.

You can find Snow Nose at Snownose.com. Let's give them some attention with some visuals, Judah. We will, at Snow Nose, you need to put those together. I thought we talked about that from the website. Snow Nose has been in business since 1912, beautiful and distinctive outdoor spaces at Snow Nose. Online at Snownose.com. My family is working with snow-nows on an outdoor fire pit and patio that we're going to bring to life on this talk show and on the I Love Seaville Network. Excited to showcase that on the show alongside my wife and alongside Corbyn's, gardens, curb appeal, patios, pools, complete outdoor living spaces.

Snow's has helped Central Virginia families love where they live since 1912. Judah Wickhauer, studio camera, and weave you into the show. What tickles your fancy about today's show as your scatter shooting on the show today? Glad to see that Sweeney is not going to be out to do any damage to anyone. I'm glad that they've made that decision. He also won't be able to run. He will hopefully face up to his crimes and we'll find out what his punishment is. Mike Sweeney denied Bond today.

Thank you for that. Mike Sweeney denied bond today. I'm being told that there are some even more unfortunate details into the allege many child sex assaults with Mike Sweeney. that will be made public. Media in attendance today this morning at the Sweeney hearing to determine if he should be released on bond. CBS 19, NBC 29 and CVL right now were there. His bond has been denied. Unfortunately, there is a lot more to this horrific story than what the community knows so far.

and some of that horror will present itself as these proceedings unfold. So prepare yourself. The news, if you're watching and listening to the show, you should have that lower throat on screen, is that Mike Sweeney has, in fact, been denied Bond the social-emotional learning coach that allegedly terrorized Holly Meade Elementary and perhaps even Woodbrook Elementary. I think time's going to tell on that. has been denied bond. I would hope that, and I would expect this,

and the Commonwealth Attorney of Almorel County, Jim Hingley, is a good man, he's an honest man, he watches and listens to this show on a regular basis. Jim Hingley and correspondence with him, my correspondence with him, highlighted here on August 11th and August 12th, the participants of A11 and A12 were held accountable by Almaro County. That's something that I think in the past that you have disagreed on.

The Almore County Commonwealth's Attorney's Office successfully prosecuted some of the marchers who committed crimes on A11, 2017 here in Charlottesville. That was after the fact. You and I went back and forth on that. I would expect a level of accountability and a level of legal pursuit with Mike Sweeney as well from Jim Hingley's office, the two-term Amoral Commonwealth Attorney who watches and listens to this program.

Viewers and listeners like and share the show, do us that favor. Anything you want to add to the Sweeney case. I want to segue to A-11 and A-12 and how it was handled, but anything else you want to add on the Sweeney storyline. No, I'm glad to not know the details. I'll let the court take care of Sweeney. Vanessa Parkhill, welcome to the broadcast. Philip Dow, welcome to the broadcast viewers and listeners like and share the show.

Should A11, A12, lower third on screen, have been acknowledged in any capacity by City Hall, Judah? I mean, we certainly shouldn't glamorize it. I certainly don't think it needs its own special day. We already, you know, it's already got... Acknowledged or honored in any capacity by City Hall. There is Heather Higher Way. Yeah. There's still the mural at the base of 4th Street as it connects to Water Street.

Honored by City Hall in any other way, or is the right path what they did, which was nothing. I mean, do we really think that it should be remarked upon every year? That's the topic for the show. That's what I'm asking you. I personally don't think so. I don't think it's something that we want to glorify. It's certainly not something we want to, I mean, we don't want it to be an albatross hanging around the neck of Charlottesville. A constant reminder of what? Is there a purpose for that constant reminder? I don't see it. What do you think, viewers and listeners? Should they're moving, I mean, next year is the 10-year anniversary. Is there any acknowledgement that should have happened in any capacity? Here, my take, I'll offer my take here for the viewers and listeners for you, Judah, and Karen.

Yes, city council, a statement should have been offered from the mayor Juan Diego Way. What sort of statement are you thinking? Should have said this is the nine-year anniversary of the one of the darkest days in Charlestville history. On August 11th and August 12th, the world, it's a 10th. was drawn to Charlottesville for all the wrong reasons. A-11 and A-12 nearly broke Charlottesville, nearly broke our spirits, and certainly damaged our brand. But Charlottesville, Almore County, and Central Virginia, we are resilient people, and we have

worked hard together. We've worked tirelessly to rebuild our brand, rebuild our image through empathy, through goodwill, through including men and women of all backgrounds, religions, races, skin colors, shapes and sizes and lines of work.

And we took a horrific turn of events and we understand it's part of our history and will forever be woven into the fabric of our community's image. But we have used these events to make our community

an even stronger place, an even kinder place, more open, empathetic, and community-centric city to live within. That right there is called public relations. That right there is called community goodwill. That right there are statements like that from Mayor Juan Diego Wade or city manager Sam Sanders or public, the communications director, Afton Schneider. They go a long way into acknowledging something that nearly broke our spirit that became part of the Biden-Trump rhetoric that drove the global new cycle. And it presents and positions it in a way where the world understands that Charlottesville is now stronger than it's ever been.

That's not just strategic. That's honest. I believe it. Have we rebounded A-11, A-12? in every capacity, no. But we are a community that is unafraid and a community that is very willing to include people of all backgrounds, shapes, races, sizes, religions, mindsets.

I mean, you think about this community right here? Is there, that's something, one thing Charlottesville prides itself in is being inclusive. Supposedly. what's that mean that means that's very now this is

Albemarle County but come on we're talking about Charlottesville Admiral County Central Virginia it's easy to say that and it's also very easy to break that I still don't know what that means

for instance we've got a school board member who is leaving the school board today who was not tolerant of Turning Point USA Western Outbarrow. Devil's Advocate on there?

Devil's advocate there? That same school board, and I'm not an Allison Spillman fan. Anyone who listens to this program knows I'm not an Allison Spillman fan. Devil's Advocate, though, that same school board ran on a transgender platform of championing and supporting gender fluidity and won an overwhelming capacity. Okay, so now I don't know what your point is. My point is she did label Western Amarral Turning Point USA, the Ku Klux Klan,

but at the same time, she is the loudest champion and supporter of trans rights and trans students in Almaral County. And that voice has been... That's exactly the problem, though. That voice has been missing in Almaral County. And this isn't about trans rights. This isn't about minors and gender fluidity. this is about an adult, Allison Spillman, who carried the flag for a very, very small pocket of people now moral, and did so in unafraid capacities in a public race, maybe one of the most public races in school board history in America.

Right? Certainly one of the most finance races in school board history in America. And she did it unafraid, and she won in 20% plus. capacity against Meg Bryce. My point is this. That's a perfect example of this community being unafraid to stand for even the smallest of populations. I get she stepped in a pile of crap

and it was an absolute idiot move by Allison Spillman, the Turning Point USA reference to the KKK. And if Spillman had not have had too many white claws or too many too many i mean is she a white clause is she she a spritzer drinker whatever if she hadn't had done that she probably would still be on the school board you disagree on that maybe i'm not your last statement you may be right maybe it was too many white claws uh but uh it was an after hours post at night my problem with this whole line of reasoning is that it yes it's

very easy to say oh look how inclusive we are look how look what wonderful people we are uh while under the surface, the reality is that if, in this case, if you have the wrong hood, and that's a poor joke, my point is, if you, in a different era, it was the wrong color skin. Today, it's the wrong ideology? Is it the wrong side of the political aisle? It's very easy to say we're inclusive and also very easy to see that if you look through Charlottesville's social media, any of the platforms, that that's very much not necessarily true. What's not necessarily true? That's inclusive? The inclusivity. The the tall, the the tolerance.

Charlottesville's intolerant to conservatives? We've talked on the show about conservative shop owners potentially getting doxed. They were doxed. Conservative business owners were doxed on the

dregs of society, the Charlottesville subreddit, where they created a list of Charlottesville conservative business owners and said we should boycott them, because they assumed there was a Trump vote there, without even knowing it. That absolutely happened. I would say that completely tears apart the argument that Charlottesville is so inclusive.

So you're up the platform and stance, and I apologize for interrupting, you're of the platform and stance that Charlottesville and Alamara County, this is Judah's stance here, that Charlottesville and Alamara County are extremely far from being inclusive as a community. I think most communities are. We all pick and choose. In this case, there's an incredibly heavy dislike, disdain. Is there another good D word?

Anyways, for, yeah, for conservatives. And it's easy to say, oh, well, but look at Allison Spillman. She's championing her child is one. It's not a surprise that she's championing. trans children. I don't have a problem with her championing it. I don't have a problem with her child being trans. Neither do I. But I do have a problem with the KKK reference, which I'm sure you do as well. It's very easy to say, hey, we're so inclusive until we're not. And as soon as we're not, it proves the lie that, hey, we're so inclusive. Viewers and listeners, let us know your

thoughts. Are Charlottesville and Alamara County an inclusive, open arm and welcoming community? and we say this the day after August 11th and August 12th asking the question should A11 and A12 have been remembered in any capacity there was not a statement issued by council I mean are you not a statement issued by City Hall are you suggesting that there should be a statement every year I think there should be every year it's I mean this is the ninth I would tent is a little more on the nine year anniversary of A11 and A12 this is what

Charlottesville and the surrounding area has learned. A joint statement with Juan Diego Wade and Nad Galloway, the chair of the Amarro County Board of Supervisors. This impacted Almaro County as well. Why was there no statement in any capacity by local government leaders or county executive or the city manager? Because most people want to forget about it. Is the, okay, so then that's a strategy. is the strategy, we are just going to bury our head in the sand and forget that it never happened and hope that everybody else forgot about it as well. And then what does that make Heather's mother Susan feel like? We'd have to ask her.

Right? We can't know if she would be horrified. Whether we like it or not, this is part of Charlottesville's identity. And it's still part of Charlottesville's identity, whether we like it or not. You know, it's... I mean, I don't know that I see it as part of Charlottesville's identity. Some of the planners may have come from Charlottesville or UVA. Jason Kessler.

Yeah. But on the other hand, I think we have to acknowledge that a lot of these people came from out of town, including Heather Hire's killer. James Fields. And so it was definitely an event that happened here, but I don't know that it encompasses the, the feelings, the politics, the, it doesn't, it doesn't really describe, I think, most of the people in Charlottesville. I don't think A11 and A12 describes the people in Charlottesville at all. But I do think it's part of Charlottesville's macro identity and Charlestville's brand. It's, I agree 100% with you. It's not, that's not Charlottesville. Yeah. Charleston.

Charlottesville. There was, you know, but that is Charlottesville's brand because it happened in Charlottesville. But do we want to keep bringing it up so that it maintains its supremacy as Charlottesville's brand? It's not us that's bringing it up.

It's Charlottesville's digital tombstone. Yeah, but we of all people should know better than to think that a digital tombstone is written in actual stone. You can A11 and A12, which influence an election, Trump and Biden, a lot of ways Biden won because of this.

And a perceived faux pas intentional reality not manipulated by Trump. I mean, the Trump, good people on either side thing, whether he said it or not, or whether it was taken out of context or not, is the same kind of political foepa of a Terry McCullough saying not once, twice or three times that parents should not be involved in their kids' education, public schools in Virginia. It's dumb. It's politically idiot. Right?

It's politically stupid. McCallif was politically stupid. Young kid wins. Trump was politically stupid in that circumstance. Biden wins. Weekend at Bernie's wins. Okay? And Biden's camp jumped on it just like Young kids' camp jumped on it.

But it was, it captivated the world. We can't run on. You know, comments put them in the feed. John Gibbons sides with you on YouTube. John Gibbons 3912 on YouTube. He says we have not learned anything. I don't think we've learned anything from A11 or A12. Yeah.

That's what he says. I don't think we've learned a single thing as a community. There are too many people that think it was just one group and they did everything and they created all the drama and the damage. And I see that as wearing blinders. Carol Thorpe agrees with you, says I don't think we've learned a single thing from A11 or A12. Yeah. And that's not sad?

That is sad. I don't know that continuing to bring it up is going to help that any. Hank Martin watching the program, the issue is that so much focus was placed on a statistically small student population, while scholastic achievement and educational gaps grew simultaneously. There was no inclusivity concerns for the students falling through the gaps. I think that's a reference to Alamara County performance from Hank Martin. We start one of the first topics of the show by asking you the viewers and listeners, are you surprised in any capacity that not a single elected leader or a single county executive or city manager

made any reference to A11 or A12 and the nine-year anniversary? I'm not sure about those in the, in Elmerall County. The helicopter went down in Amar County. Yeah, but that was a tragedy, but I wasn't directly attributable to anything, I don't think. You're just saying it's just a coincidence tied to A11 and A12 and not a direct result of A11 and A12. We're nine years beyond.

Was there something? Do you have information about it? No, it was an accident. It was tied to the event, but it was an accident. It went up because of the event, but it was a completely unrelated tragedy that it crashed. That's 100% fair. 100% fair. What was like, I forgot what I was going to say.

Oh, talking about, I don't really know about Almaral County, anyone there, any statements they might have made in terms of, and I just mean, I don't have a feel for how they would potentially. react or what they would say. I think in terms of Charlottesville, I just don't see anyone on city council wanting to have their name in any way tied with August 11th and 12th. And so, yeah, maybe you're right. They're hiding their heads in the sand because it's not something they're comfortable with. And they don't want their name, you know, associated with a,

statement about those days. Yeah, there it is. And that says as much about the city counselors as anything. That they are more mindful of being co-branded digitally with this event from nine years ago and the fear of associating their name

with the event. Then as mayor, not just a two-term, two back-to-back mayor. Yeah, but logically, I can't really say a black man, a black man saying this happened. It was an awful, awful day.

And I've been in this community most of my entire life, and adult life specifically. And this is my vantage point of a city that I'm leading what I have seen in the nine years since the event. Logically, though, I can't really say that I blame them. We've just got done talking about the fact that, well, we've had multiple people say that they don't think Charlottesville has learned anything. We've also got done just on talking about the fact that Trump's words were taken out of context

and used against him to potentially lose a campaign. Most important race in the world. Yeah. So, you know, I find it hard to put a whole lot of care or blame. in the fact that Charlottesville city councillors don't want to, don't even want to leave the door open for somebody taking something they said out of context about August 11th and 12th. Tushay.

You're basically saying it costs Trump an election. Why would I jump into this? Yeah. Does making a statement gain them anything? And if not, then what's the point in potentially losing something? Can it get any lower for the folks that are there now? You're saying City Hall? Counsel in particular?

I mean, the approval rating of counsel right now. Are we talking the approval? You're saying it doesn't matter if they are? Right. Are we talking the approval of counsel? The approval rating of counsel? I mean, is it about as low as you could, I mean, the last time we've seen counsel's approval rating this low

was when Nakaya Walker was using rape allegory and hikus that got published in the New York Times. I mean, remember what she said about Charlottesville? I remember. There's no need to repeat it. Are we not, I'm not saying we're at that level, but goodness gracious. And T minus 18 days, they're torching tent town, evicting the tenants of tent town. You saw in the Charlottesville subreddit, there's police camera set up there.

all over 10 town. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't say the approval rating is that great. Comments put them in the feed. James Watson watching the program. Anyone who's everyone who's anyone is watching the I Love's Evil Show, guys. This is the number one platform in the community,

and it's not even close. James Watson says this. It's sad of what do you travel to other parts of the country, and people look at you startled when you tell. tell them you're from Charlottesville. It was a terrible event, but it's also terrible that people in other states think that day represents every day. That's from James Watson, a friend of the show, a brilliant man who's a consultant that travels

the country professionally for work. Highlighting that in his travels, anytime he says Charlottesville or oftentimes when he mentions in Charlottesville. The first thing that comes to mind is A11 and A12. It's to change the course of the brand and to rebuild brand equity, we have a conversation that reach, we're in the business of all offering consultation to other businesses to help them gain market share so they drive customer base and incremental revenue. One of the ways you gain market share drive eyeballs and incremental. revenue is by changing the narrative, dictating the pace and nepo of how you're perceived.

How you can do that is by papering the trail with the new narrative. That takes courage, though. Georgia Gilmer says no remembrance. That A11 and A12 was poorly managed by the city. The city created a disaster. So did the governor. Sort of the governor. Vanessa Parkill, her photo on screen.

So by your thinking, any possible rehabilitation will forever be overshadowed by past mistakes, Judah? Say that again? Any possible rehabilitation will forever be overshadowed by past mistakes? That's not healthy. That's like saying anyone who goes to jail must always publicly wear a scarlet letter. That doesn't incentivize anyone to do better. How is I saying that? That's the comment.

That's come in. 106 marker. Jeremy Wilson's watching in Eastern Tennessee. Viewers and listeners, put your comments in the feed. We'll relay them live on air. We have to talk about the school board meeting tonight. Tonight starts the 45-day clock, put that lower third on screen, where the school board will replace Allison Spillman with what we think.

Do we want to call the Allison Spillman replacement to be, will it be a school board crony lackey? I mean, what's the word we're going to use for our anticipation of who the candidate will be? Is lame duck a good term for that? Lame duck could work.

Is crony or lackey not a better description though? We think it's going to be somewhat of similar ideology, right? Do you? I mean, you're saying similar ideology to it to five of the six left over

remember. I am, and I'm not trying to throw, in fact, I am trying to throw shade with Dylan Beck. Have as Dylan Beck, as Jim Dylan Beck done what he promised or campaigned, have we saying an assertive, conservative voice that would be outvoted in everything, but still courageous and vocal and willing to paper the trail with a nation, Sayers' accountability perspective. We haven't seen that from Jim. Those are fair questions. We have not seen that from Jim Dillonback.

Eight months, almost eight months into his first year, is he now not lumped in with the five other members on the dais, on the school board? And as a result, do I not say, to piggyback on Judah's question, that six members who were, remain in 45 days will pick nothing but a lackey or a yes man. Regardless they have till the end of the September, 45 days from today to fill the slot.

And Spilman, her, what, nearly three years, two and a half years in change, will be remembered how? As being drama filled and not without a few tears. Drama, divisive. Yeah, definitely divisive. I mean, Allison Spillman's two and a half plus years in a school board in what was the most followed race in Virginia history for a school board seat on the short list in the country, one of the most highly, you know, financed races,

maybe the country's ever seen for a school board race. She quits before the third year of a four-year term, and we describe it as destructive, divisive, dramatic, delusional, delusioned. It's not a good remembrance. And prove me wrong, viewers and listeners. That's what happens when you use the nastiest group in American history, maybe the nastiest group in world history, same categories as Nazis?

The KKK? I mean, that's a topic for another completely different show and for historians to be in the program with us to help us put into perspective. But even putting students in the same breath as the KKK is delusional, divisive, dramatic, I mean, worst than all.

Dirty. Worse than all of those. It's dangerous. Dangerous? Dangerous? 100%. It's dangerous. There are your D's.

That's how she's going to be remembered. And it leads the prop bet that Judah and I have on the show, lower throat on screen. Does Spillman cry tonight? And it's my wife's, my wife is in agreement with you, Judah. That it's a mean-spirited prop. bet. That's what she said to me. And I said, I asked her this question. If the tears are not genuinely authentic, then is it a manipulation or a victim strategy to shift attention from dangerous, divisive, dramatic behavior? If, like, if it happens constantly, like we, we

questioned the apology post-KKK, and there was multiple apologies, right? We genuinely questioned, the first time was like, is this really even an apology? There were alligator tears. Is it playing the victim to solicit unwarranted empathy and forgiveness? And I asked her that and she said, I asked my wife that after she said it's a mean-spirited prop that and she said, no, that's a good point. Who's seen it with their kids when their son or daughter does something that's wrong and they know it's wrong? And the parents are holding their kids accountable and the first thing the sons or daughters do utilize an emotional tactic to pull at your heartstrings for empathy and forgiveness.

How is it any different? Because I don't know that it's... I think my issue here is that we're judging the interior lives of others, which is, again, a very dangerous proposition. Unpack that some more. Okay. I have no problem with saying that Allison Spillman's apology was perhaps insincere. You can read it, you can read through it, you can say, okay, in one breath,

she apologizes and then in the next 30 breaths, she essentially shifts the blame or whatever you want to call it. You can, it's very easy to take a look at the words and parse them and decide how you feel about them. In terms of someone crying, yes, whether it's a child or an adult, oftentimes it can be seen as manipulative, it can be seen as attempting to go. honor, empathy, attempting to lessen the, uh, lesson the, uh, lesson. The punishment.

The punishment. Soften the punishment. Yeah. Uh, but. It's manipulation. It's a strategy. But now we are judging. Do you know that that person is using them in a manipulative fashion? Or is it, uh, you know, is it an overflowing of emotions that overcame them in a time where we're all vulnerable, that is when somebody is calling us out and that doesn't necessarily excuse it, but for you to

accuse someone of being manipulative just because they're crying, is, do you know that? Do you really know that? I am asking the question because I thought her apology post KKK statement on her personal Facebook page

was the least authentic, genuine, and remorse. remorseful apology that, you know. I tend to agree with you. You can offer. I tend to agree. It was not accountability. It was not, I'm sorry.

It was circumvent. I'm sorry you're offended by my words. That's not apologizing for my words. She said, I'm sorry you're offended by my words. My words didn't mean that you took it out of context. It's kind of your fault. Exactly. That's what her apology was.

You were wrong that you're offended by my words. Right. That's what she said. And then cried. Terrible. And then cried. And that became the story. And then this apology,

this resignation statement at the emergency meeting, you're quitting at the time the community needs you the most. Yeah. And you're the at-large representative that's supposed to represent everyone. I'm not disagreeing with any of that. Okay.

And we're going to see it again today. And it's to curry, it's to curry community support. It is my take, a host of a talk show, you're hosting to. It is your take. It's a take out of talk show. My take is it's to curry, emotional support, and distract. It's no different than what my eight-year-old son does. And you very well may be correct, but you are,

whether it's an assumption. Yeah, it's called commentary. That's the whole point of the talk show. I am all for my commentary on this. No, you're changing. No, I'm not. Our job is to offer this show, okay. Our job on this show is to offer an opinion

on topics that are real. Right. And that was ultimately my point, that it is an opinion. 100%. It is completely. separated from, like I said, our, you know, parsing what she said in the apology. Of course. No one knows that but her. She's the only one that can know if that was actually authentic. But there's a hell of a lot of people that call the alligator in crocodile tears.

I agree. And we'll see if it happens again tonight. And they may be right again. Correction on the Vanessa Parkhill statement. She says, and she's offered multiple comments on this. She says in this particular circumstance, she was agreeing with you on the A11 and A12. Okay. Okay. There's 300 comments here that are all coming in at once. Yeah. And it's oftentimes hard to tell what they're specifically...

On what topic matter, especially since there's a 10 second delay. And we also can't go back, you know, in the video and see, oh, let's see, this comment came in at three minutes and 14 seconds. Thank you. And they were directly referencing this. oftentimes when we go back and look at the comments, it's like, wait a minute, you say you agree, but I don't know what you're agreeing with. Deep throat ads, number one, in the family, I don't know what inclusivity really means, but I can tell you this place is the least tolerant of political dissent from the community consensus. That's exactly. Which is progressive left of any place I've lived.

Of course, most of the places I've lived, I've lived there before the summer of 2020 and the political freak out that occurred nationally then. He also says the reason the city doesn't memorialize August 11th and 12th is because this turned from an obnoxious protest by evil people into a chaotic riot due to the rank and competence of Seville City Police and City Hall at the time. And he says New York City would not hold September 11th memorials if the towers had fallen because NYPD helicopters had crashed into the towers. Yeah, that's a good point.

New York City does hold 9-11 memorials. They, and they should. They lost a great member, a great number of, of fire and police servicemen in the, you know, in the, the tower, the terroristic attacks. In the act of, of saving as many people as possible.

And, and I'm, those people 100% believe, deserve to be memorialized. John Blair on LinkedIn. There's no such, there's nobody you can point to that fits that bill in A1112. John, who? Who's your hero for A11 and 12?

It's a simple question. What do we call Heather Heyer? Do we call her the victim? Victim? I mean, I don't want to get, I don't want to get eggs thrown at me when I go out of the street,

so I don't think I'm going to say anything about this, but she's not a hero. I'm sorry, but... You just call it the martyr? A martyr is somebody that... You call her nothing but you're saying...

These are your words here. You're saying Heather Heather Heyer is the victim that got murder. She was a victim in the terrible excesses of August 11th and 12th. John Blair, his photo on screen. I didn't work for the city during August

11th. August 12th, 2017. I will not comment on the city's actions. I did not work for the city then. But the event really upset me and has stayed with me for nine years. Every year I walk Heather Hire away on August 12th to honor her memory. Kudos. I was in front of our studio on August 12th for much of the day, watching it unfold.

It very much sticks with me as well. I think about it often. I don't doubt it. A11 and A12. George Gilmer says, scrap the bet. I appreciate that comment, but the bet will not be scrapped.

It will not be scrapped. We will watch very closely to see how it plays out. We'll give some attention to Charlestville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company. John and Andrew Vermilion at Charlestville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company are who you contact for anything cleaning supplies, any Bono Wood Floor product,

any meal of vacuum product, any vacuum repair, anything water testing with your swimming pool, anything new, pool robots cleaning, pool motors, pool covers. They have a vacuum division that's soon to launch that we're working with them on. I'm excited to showcase on the show. John and Andrew Vermillion are good men. They're good people. They're honest people. 122 marker. There's some topics that we need to save for tomorrow's show.

Let's save North Point for tomorrow. Let's save the Holiday Inn apartment transition for tomorrow on Emmett Street. It's 190 apartments. Yeah. There's a lot of multifamily and a lot of apartments coming online, which we've documented on this show. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a lot of rentals coming online in the next 24th. Vermont in Charlestville.

The Verve, the Bloom, Spring Valley, which is the Grey Star development off the bypass, this Holiday Inn project, North Point. There is a lot coming online, ladies and gentlemen. Bill McChesney says Heather Hire was wrong place, wrong time. I tend to agree. So we'll close by giving you this topic, okay? And then we'll get off air with this. This is something for you to contemplate viewers and listeners.

August 11th and August 12th, 2017 in Charlottesville, nine years of reflection. Was there zero heroes? Was there not one hero present at A11 or A12? Not one hero. That's what you're saying. It's not counsel, not city hall, not police, not a single hero was present. And an A11 or A12. That's a topic for you, the viewer and listener.

Wood Coward. I'm Jerry Miller.