The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Asher, Zach, Rebecca & Zion Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

Asher Surratt, Zach Erb, Rebecca Beckstrom and Zion Jackson joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for watching. I thank you for listening. I thank you for praying. And I thank you for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. We are very excited for what the Lord is going to do today. This is going to be a very different show. You can't see them yet, but I do have a packed house on set. Myself plus four other beautiful, amazing people are here, which my understanding is the Jerry Miller told me this has never been done in the program's history. He's over there squirming right now. And you know what? God is not in a box and Jerry Miller is not in in a box and so we are excited to do something new that

the i love seville network my understanding has not done before so i just want to say a couple little points before we get started before i welcome my guests um guys people are watching the show i have people that are stopping me in the streets who are being impacted by the show. People who will maybe never like it, like it, who will never comment, who will never share, who may never watch live. But I just want to tell you, this show is for you because there are a lot of hungry people out there. There are people that are tired of doing church and maybe a Bible study during the week. They're hungry for more. And I know that people are getting fed. We're blessed and honored by that. And today is going to be no

different. We're going to be talking about some really just cool, amazing thing that God is doing in the Shenandoah Valley. But I will say for those who are watching live, we would love to interact with you a little bit. So if you can you can write in comment tell us where you're coming from where you live any questions that you may have during the show and look i really do encourage you guys to share the link to the show because that's how people are going to watch it it's not a show that has a five million person platform if you have 2 000 friends on your friends list that are not friends with me and you share this, that's 2,000 people they could watch, listen, be blessed by the show that would have never heard it or seen it any other way. So we thank you guys. All right, I have a little word for the week. Hopefully this

will go quick, but I'm going to read a passage. So this is going to be about childlike faith today. So we're going to Matthew 18, which in my book, the NIV today is titled the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. So at that time, the disciples came to Jesus and asked who then is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. He called a little child to him and placed the child among them. And Jesus said, truly, I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. So we're going to go into childlike faith. I took some notes today. I'm going to read. I rarely read, but I'm going to read just a little bit.

So childlike faith is sincere. It's authentic. It's pure. It's innocent. It's fun. And childlike faith is trusting. Children trust their parents to teach them. And this is why it's so important for us as parents to teach our children the truth. It's not believe whatever you want, guys. Sometimes I hear that from parents. We think that sounds like a good thing to let our children believe whatever they want. Of course, they have freedom. We want to provide them freedom, but it's up to us to teach our children truth. Children are dependent on their parents for food, shelter, love, and this trusting spirit and absolute dependence is what our heavenly father wants from all believers. So about a year

and a half ago, I went and heard something was brewing in the state of Kentucky. I told my wife, I said, the Lord is calling me today to go to Kentucky. She said, why are you going to Kentucky? I said, I have no idea, but the Lord's calling me. He's doing something big in Kentucky. So I woke up at four or five o'clock the next morning, got in my car. I drove eight hours to, I think it's called Wilmore, Kentucky, is the city and the state. Some of you guys have heard of the Asbury Revival. And I went to this Asbury Revival. It was one of the most beautiful, childlike, authentic things that I had ever seen.

And when I came out, I was so impacted. And I remember feeling like I truly brought a piece of that place back with me. Rewind, or should I say, fast forward a year from then, the Lord had called me to have an event to unite both sides of the Blue Ridge Mountains, the Shenandoah Valley, Central Virginia, to have an event to call it Bridge the Gap to Unite the Regions. Look, as Barry, some of these things, guys, I don't believe that it's really duplicatable because it's something that's so authentic and it comes from the Lord. We're not trying to duplicate it. But I remember I had on my heart that I wanted the childlike faith to be at that event.

And I reached out to my friend Asher, who's on the show today, and Zach, and I said, you know, you guys are young. I've seen you at other events. I just love the child likeness that you have. Would you guys come lead worship at this event? And so they did, thank God. And it was just so beautiful the way that they, you know, I had this thing of Asbury in my heart. And, you know, I was involved with the event, trying to put everything together. I got 10 things going on at once. So I don't think I actually realized in the moment what the Lord was doing. But so the last night of the event, my dad, we had done the event on our parents' property. He said, you know what, we're going to open the house another night for anybody who wants to stay. And I wasn't even thinking, I didn't know if anybody wanted to stay.

And I said, guys, who wants to stay another night at the farm? And all of these kids, I say kids, they're mostly college students, but they all raised their hand. They're like, we want to stay. And that was the moment for me that I really realized that God was doing something there that weekend. And about three days after the event, I started reaching out to these guys just to thank them for coming, thanking them for being a part of what the Lord did that weekend. And they all responded with pretty much the same thing. They're like, Nate, you have no idea. They're like, everything changed this weekend.

I'm going to introduce these guys on the show. Can we get them on live now? Is that a good time? And we're going to talk to to them i just want to clarify i am in no way shape or form taking credit for this this is all the lord if you're hearing that like just that's just nonsense get that out of your mind there's all kinds of people that have planted seeds that have stewarded this it was something that was building there were other events that led to it and god knows there's a whole lot that's happened since a whole lot whole lot of people that have been pouring into it.

But it is something beautiful that the Lord has been doing. And I'm glad and honored that we have the platform to share that on this show today. All right. So, can I see the guests on the live yet? As you can see, we have a full house today. They are ready. We have Asher. We are ready. We have Asher, we have Zach, we have Rebecca, we have Zion. Everybody, y'all say hi. Welcome to the show. So look,

why don't you guys just introduce yourselves real quick. Say something about yourself, Asher. I'm Asher. I'm 19 years old. I've been walking with the Lord my whole life and encountered him this last year through many of things like what Nate hosted and it's just been a fiery community since. I'm Zach. Very similar, 19 years old and I've been walking with the Lord for a while but just this year he really gripped me and brought me back in and put me in a community of people who have been building me up and drawing me closer to him. I'm Rebecca and I'm a mom of two boys and wife to Dan, homeschool mom as well. And recently in the last year, my husband and I started a ministry called The Lighthouse where we're running with all of these guys and many more yeah i'm zion i am 24 years old and i have lived here my whole life i love this area my heart is for this area um i started collective two and a half years ago in fishersville um and my heart was just burdened for revival so yeah all right So everybody's talked and all the nerves are gone, right?

So now we're just going to let the spirit flow. That's good. All right. So when I talked about that, when I reached out to you guys, actually the first question is going to be for you. When you guys started reaching out to me and you're saying, Nate, you don't understand everything changed. Can you explain what happened that weekend

and the days that really transpired right after that. Yeah. So first of all, leading up to that, we'd experienced the Lord in so many ways in the community. There was just a heart for unity. And we had events that we'd come together in different campuses, different churches and denominations and groups would come together to worship. And we had an event called 11-11. And all these different young adults and groups came together to worship. And we encountered the Lord, and there was just this heart of like, man, I don't know anybody in this room.

And there was just this burden for unity, this joy in what the Lord did in worship. We went probably two and a half hours later than we were supposed to. And there was a beauty in that. And so we all wanted more. But there was nothing to form that. And so coming to Bridge the Gap, you hosted the regions coming together in a form that brought all these groups back together but us staying in the house it was like we built and we fellowship we ate we grew in depth as friends and from that moment

someone like Landon Stumeler was one of the guys who was encountered there leads worship with us now and there was so many encounters and things that happened there that it built friendship rather than just acquaintance. And from that built a community that was formed that has overflowed into all that's happened since. So when we talk about what happened since, a lot of people love to use the word revival as a way to describe something that God is doing.

I really don't like the word revival, but I love what it means. And so, Zach, when you got, you know, when this revival, when this, whatever God is doing with these young people in the Shenandoah Valley started, like, what did that look like in those days? Because I came on Tuesday,

I think it was like three days after the event, um i went i had a meeting over at the harvest table in bridgewater and there was about a dozen or more of you guys and y'all were praising and worshiping and jumping up and down and you had not been to sleep yet from the night before and i think that happened for like weeks basically yeah so talk about that like what was the lord doing yeah yeah i mean like when we talk about revival too and like what the lord is doing like this it didn't start at at bridge the gap it didn't start at 11 11 like it started this started we can take it back to at least a year ago if not further like the lord just like building a longing and a desire in us.

And there's just been a hunger, like that's how he's just, he's captivated us so powerfully over the last year. It was just like there was this desire growing in us, and we're just longing for more and more and more. And it got to the point where, you know, we just, there was nothing left but him, but it was just, there was such a fullness. We all like, and then through that, you know, when we start asking for more and laying down and saying, Lord, like, we're going to submit this to you. Like it starts with a couple of people, a couple of guys and turns into like a

huge small group. And from there we meet more friends and it turns into this young adult group and we meet more friends and now we're doing worship together and the lord's building a community of worship a community of evangelism a community just of like fire like of passion and of zeal for the lord yeah and man like that's that to me is like the revival too because it's like it's not just a blip. It's not something that happens momentarily that takes off and shuts down. Right. It doesn't just happen.

Like, it does, but it doesn't just happen. Yeah. You know, we see signs out on the highway that says revival here at the church on Saturday night. That all tells me that it's not revival. All right. So, you know, it's authentic. It's pure. It's unadulterated in a sense. Right. Yeah. So, but you guys started experiencing some very supernatural things. All right. Correct. So, Zach, I remember that you told me that the Lord, basically, you know, you've been a musician for a lot of your life and had never played the keyboard. And the Lord essentially supernaturally taught you how to play

the keyboard during this time. Is that right? Yeah. Can you talk about that? Yeah. Yeah. So like I started doing worship last summer around this time. Like it was the first time I really stepped in and I was dead nervous. Couldn't, could not sing and play at the same time on my guitar. And as I stepped into worship and stuff, the Lord just, like, imparted that to me, and, like, I mean, all fear of man just went away as I played, and, like, when I got to a posture of just worshiping the Lord, it just would flow naturally. But I received a prophetic word probably in December or late November that it was really simple.

It said you'd sit down at the piano and songs would start flowing. You'd just pick it up instantly and songs would start flowing. To me, I was like, that's a little crazy. I think it would gradually happen. But there was one day, I think in January, a couple months later, where I was at school in the music hall and I had some time to kill so I went down and sat at the piano and I was worshiping and I was like hearing out first but it took him maybe like a

minute and a half and in a minute and a half I'd just like I can't even explain it I just knew like an entire key so I'd play in the key of G for a while and then as we start worshiping more we go to different keys and stuff so then it's just from there it's just become like to the point where I can just hear the music you know I can just like start playing it it's and I mean I mean, yeah, to come from a place of like being too scared to worship in front of another person, like, and just being like, now it's like the only person is Jesus. I think that's the key is just like, it's a gift, you know, it was a gift. That's amazing. Yeah. All things are possible through God. So Zion, I remember

when I first met you, the Lord highlighted you to me because you spoke up and I don't even remember what it was you said but you had some revelations and knowledge on something and the Holy Spirit just showed me like this girl's got some depth to her so maybe you can get real deep for us and talk about what the Lord what the. Yeah, yeah. I actually love that you brought up the Azari revival. I went myself. And during that time, the Lord highlighted what revival really is. And more specifically, even what Zach was saying about the hunger and how that started, like, a while ago. Like, that's not a new thing.

Like, we are seeing this hunger in young adults. We're seeing this hunger throughout different ministries and different churches, but also on the streets, right? Like people are hungry and they don't know what they're hungry for. And so we're seeing this hunger. And when I went to Asbury, I realized that the hunger that people are experiencing and what they're really looking for is this like unity with the Holy Spirit and this like genuine repentance. So the Lord has been teaching me that like it's not an event, right? Like you can't say revival is an event or plan it out. But it is a move of the Holy Spirit in such a way that he comes on and he's like burdening your heart for him. And yeah, I don't know. I've just been

seeing it with young adults everywhere. I've been seeing it more and more with just like people coming together and asking questions, like people coming together and asking questions. Like people coming together and like you'll see people coming in and just kind of be like, what is this? Like what is this about? And I think Asher says this too, but like seeking his face draws people in. Yeah. Like just coming to a place where there's like four or five of you and you're just seeking his face, it draws people in. And that makes people ask questions.

Like they want more. So she started Collective Fishersville was lord was doing something so special there in the form of what collective um harrisonburg was formed from was literally a group of like five of us it was like five or six dudes we just come together and do a bible study and what happened was it was like we were just there to serve the lord to minister to his heart and the lord began to draw in people and it was too big to do a Bible study. We formed into a young adults group. And it literally was just young adults.

There was no specific one leader or anything. It was just all of us coming in complete unity to worship the Lord. And it doesn't form the outward expression that I think of revival as not the outward expression. I think of the inward thing that's happening. The way that the Lord has moved in my life has never been, like you said, one moment. It's a continual process of revival being an inward shift that's happening inside that overflows into an outward expression of what releases all-night worship or gatherings of the Holy Spirit. And it all forms from literally just a small group of people saying, we're going to get together and read the Word and allow the

Holy Spirit to direct that wherever He wants to to and that forms the outward expression of whatever you want to call it so good um so rebecca you and dan your husband have been pouring into the youth for quite some time um you basically turned your garage into a worship center. And you guys have really been, along with others, have been stewarding these kids. Like I told them, you guys might not want to be called kids, but to me, I'm old enough to be all your dads. So to me, you're kids. And what has that looked like to steward something? Because I still would like somebody to get into more like what this looks like like what as far as you know you guys were not sleeping for almost weeks and you were just worshiping like around the clock and you know people were getting baptized in the river

and like literally zero degree weather like i witnessed people in zero degree weather and people just started praying in tongues who had never spoken in this before. So I want to get into some of that that people are like, whoa, this is supernatural. Just talk about maybe all of the above. Well, yeah, side note, first of all, they spent a few nights in the lighthouse too, our workshop. So that was really fun. But it's really hard to put into words it's just so humbling because it was like um it was a prophetic word given to me 11

years ago now but but we started the lighthouse last september um so 10 years from then and it and the i didn't even know what it meant at the time, but it was Isaiah 4, 6. It will be a shelter and shade from the heat of the day and a refuge and hiding place from the storm and rain. I didn't even know what a prophetic word was. That was my very first one. First didn't mean anything to me. I was like, okay.

But last year, God just started showing me this is what it's about. And it was challenging because we had just like the space, this giant space with vision, but not knowing what it was supposed to look like. So and that's that's been the journey is just like keeping it. What does a Tuesday night look like? Yeah, that's the thing, like keeping it open to whatever it is that Holy Spirit wants to do and just like taking our hands off. So typically we always start with worship and then just go from there. So much of what you guys have been doing,

the Lord has been doing, I should say, through a lot of people. I mean, there's a lot of people that have played a part in this, right? There's a lot of adults too. But, there's a lot of people that have played a part in this, right? There's a lot of adults, too. But so much of it has been centered around worship. You know, and it's like we talk about revivals, and we think that it has to look a certain way. It has to look like Toronto did or it has to look like Azusa did, but it's different.

So a lot of this has been led, you know, through worship, right? Yeah. So that's what people ask us that, and we're like, we don't really, you just have to come and experience it because it's different every time. But we always start with worship. Yeah. Do you want a personal testimony of what's happened on a Tuesday? Absolutely. So a lot of times, that's the beauty of it, is that we don't understand it.

And I don't think we're meant to understand it. Because every time we come to gather at the Lord, it's like when we meet his face, something new happens. Every night is completely different. And so there was one night where we came and we just started in worship. And it was a powerful night. We were going, this is a night where it was like zero degrees outside. There was snow on the ground. And this one song came on that was talking about running to the river.

I don't know what it was, but half of the room just had this burning to run to the river. So we got up. People were in socks, shorts, whatever, and they're running barefoot in the snow. And we ran to the river, and we started shouting Jesus' name and worshiping over this river. We didn't even understand what we were doing. And the Lord was speaking so much through that.

And so we come back in. We're like completely warm. I didn't understand. I personally wasn't even cold. And I was in shorts. It didn't make any sense. But we come back in, and're like, they're completely warm. I didn't understand. I personally, like, wasn't even cold. And I was in shorts. It didn't make any sense. But we come back in and there's just this drive in worship. And we kept worshiping and most people leave and then you get that remnant of people left in the room.

And we went into this time of just the voices singing. Like every instrument stopped. And it was just the words of worship. Singing holy, holy, holy. And I fell down on my face. And I was, like, getting wrecked with the Lord and I was I was went into this vision I don't know Lord speaks to me a lot in visions and just shows me pictures um and speaks through them and so I went into this this moment where I was sitting at a table with Jesus and he was holding my hand across the table like

we are right now and he he said Asher I'm always sitting at the table. You have the choice to leave, but I never leave the table. And he said, when you're here dining with me, when you're fellowshipping with me, we become one. And he like stood up and came into my body. And I physically couldn't, this has never happened to me before, physically couldn't control myself. And Landon Stumler and Jacob Nichols, who are some of our young adult friends from this group,

are sitting next to me and they see me literally like moving, like it was like Jesus was moving my hand. I couldn't do it. And then from this place he like stands up and he walks me into the throne room. And I'm just getting like hit with the Holy Spirit because I can't even understand where I'm at or what I'm doing. I'm like, I feel so unworthy of where I'm at. And he goes and he sits, me still in his body and his body in mine,

at the right hand of the throne. And I'm like, Lord, I cannot be here. This is so wrong. Like, I don't feel worthy. I'm not worthy of this. This is so wrong. And I'm like trying to pull myself off the throne. And on the floor, I'm literally like moving.

This is not something I would do. And the Lord speaks to me. He led me to Ephesians 2.6, where it says, And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus in order that the coming ages

he might show the incomparable riches of his grace. And so he just revealed to me that he's called us to step into oneness with him in the heavenly places. And I didn't understand it. And in that moment,

finally I was like, Lord, what do you want to show me here? And it was like there was these seas of worshipers and I was thrown off the throne And in that moment, finally, I was like, Lord, what do you want to show me here? And it was like there was these seas of worshipers, and I was thrown off the throne into this crowd of worshipers. And a hand reached out and picked me up, and I looked, and it was Jesus. And he looked at me, and he said, you know, and I looked around, and all these people then were Jesus.

It wasn't just people anymore. And he said, do you not realize when you worship me, you become one with me here and on the throne. And now from this place, you can move in prayer, move in worship and all that you do. And from that moment, we went into the most powerful time of intercession and prayer that I've ever experienced. And it's all from meeting his face. So for those who are watching the show that may have never heard or seen anything like that, it's very supernatural. I know some of you guys, even Zach, I think you specifically would probably say that maybe you came out of a little more religion, right? Or in the sense

where some of this stuff you might not have experienced before, or even like praying in tongues and things like that. I'm not sure, but is that accurate at all? Or maybe you can just talk about how the lord has opened your eyes more to being able to experience heaven on earth because what um what asher is explaining really is experiencing heaven on earth yeah um i mean i grew up uh in a more i'd say probably more like not charismatic but very like non-denominational church. It used to be a very spiritual church and stuff. So like tongues and stuff like that weren't, they weren't abnormal to me.

Like my parents have, but it was like a little more conservative, you know. It was something that we, like you did more, you know, in the quiet time. Right. In your space with Jesus. Like, and it wasn't something that I was around a lot. It didn't deter me or anything. I wasn't afraid of it or weirded out by it. But one thing the Lord's really shown me is, especially in community and stuff,

the beauty of just being a body. And especially with the five-fold ministry and stuff, like the different, um, positions, the different gifts, the different things that he gives us and how we all work together without being the same person, you know, like we all have different gifts and different, um, different things that he has appointed us to do and stuff. So like, it's really cool to me transitioning from a place of kind of being like a church body where it's like you know almost like you sign up for a position or like you you know you go into a position and just like seeing like the freedom of people like literally just having a revelation

of like this is what the lord has called me to do in this community and seeing it just like grow from there. All right. So Zion, I'm going to ask you a question. This can be probably taken a lot of different ways, but why would you say that God is doing this? That's a good question. I think really what i've been asking the lord is like what does revival look like in the areas where we're dead and so where there's a death right god comes in and he says i want to revive this and um so the why i think is for the sake of coming alive for the sake of awakening a church. And I don't mean the church within the four walls.

I mean like the church, the body of Christ. And I've seen locationally different revivals look like different things, right? And it's because there's an area that's dead. And so when we die in some area of our life, whether that's like we are now dead to the miracles of the Holy Spirit, right? Then that's the area that he's going to revive. Like he's going to come into that place and he's going to say like this is the Holy Spirit. Be alive in the Holy Spirit.

Or if an area is dead to the truth, like we're talking about like the word of God. If you're dead to that, then he's like we're going about like the word of god if you're dead to that then he's like we're going to bring the word alive and so i've seen it kind of experienced in different areas where the lord you know answers that question depending on the people you know like why am i here and how am i going to revive the specific location and the specific group of people so it's good yeah i mean you know revival it's it's refreshing, it's restoring, it's freedom. There's a hunger, a humility, a repentance, character development. I believe that all these things come through it, and in many ways it leads to revival. So, Rebecca, you've had a unique role and you know dan jason crystal blake you know there's there's others and it's like i've been able to play a role in this but it's been more of like a bird's eye view

you know some get to to plant some water like and i've been that a lot of times where it's like i'm planting seeds planting seeds planting seeds in this occasion it was like I really got to see it grow like right away. But you guys are the ones that are stewarding these young, you know, 17 to 23, 24 year old kids. And it's a big responsibility. And there's a lot to it. And I laugh because I'm glad it's y'all and not me. I have four kids at home already to take care of, and you have your own children. And I know Jason and Crystal, these guys have their own kids. And

it's like, you just all of a sudden pick out a whole lot of, you know, kids to help steward. And I know it's beautiful and it's fun, but it is a responsibility. So I don't know if maybe you can talk about some of that and what that's been like. I think for me personally, yeah, it really, I feel such a like weighty responsibility of like for me personally in holiness and purity in my own heart, which also goes along with revival. But yeah, as more of a shepherder pastoring personality, for me what's challenging is just loving all of them so much and only having so much capacity. And also knowing that it's not just up to me, but yeah, just wanting everyone to be shepherded, discipled. And so i am

so thankful too for the collective and other ministries pouring into them um but yes it's also it's been a very challenging not because of them but a very challenging year but also like the year of joy and it has enriched our family not just us our children too, like to have them as part of our lives. So, yeah. So we talk a lot on this show about how the kingdom is fun. I know that you guys are having fun. And there's a lot of childlike faith. You know, at the beginning of the show, I talked about childlike faith.

So I see your generation, the next generation, those younger than you, these guys are not dumb. They see sometimes the church is not fun and people are hungry for more. People are hungry for spirituality. And so they're looking at the world. They're looking at all the wrong things for the and people are hungry for more. People are hungry for spirituality, and so they're looking at the world. They're looking at all the wrong things for the new age stuff, and God is a spirit. We live in a spiritual world.

We live in the kingdom of God. If these young people knew the power, the authority that they could carry, the things that you can see supernaturally in the kingdom of God with Jesus on the inside of you. And to see that it's not just about going to church or going to Bible study or trying to be good doing the work. People would want this. And so what you guys are doing is different. And I believe more and more young people are going to want this. They want this relationship with Jesus, this childlike, this fun kingdom life.

Can somebody talk about that? Do you want to talk about it, Asher? Sure. So I really also like to add on to what Rebecca was saying. There's such a beauty in the community of the Lord's form because it's not on just one person. It's not on just one ministry. The beauty of what the Lord is doing is he's bringing together different ministries, different churches, different campus, like people who go to different colleges or work. And the beauty of it is that we're all coming together with one goal, to worship Jesus.

But outside of that, there's discipleship happening individually in the relationships people have and the churches they're a part of. And it's not like we're pulling groups from different churches. It's like we are acknowledging we all go to different churches. We all are a part of different ministries. But the Lord is pulling us together in unity and worship. And so it doesn't have to be stewarded by just Rebecca. There's a beauty of the Table 61 and Lighthouse and Collective and all the different ministries involved pouring into it. Yeah, that's so

what would you say to those within the church and i know that you guys have faced some of this what would you say to religious minds that say that you guys this is not biblical this is out of control what you're covering does anybody want to touch on that i see you anybody i think this i think this really this was not planned to be discussed i think the holy spirit wants this to be shared right now yeah yeah yeah you want to go first yeah absolutely let's we can tag team this one i think this is interesting because um to me like when i thought of religion i was like yeah christianity is religion um but i mean, you know, you were talking about New Age and stuff, all the spirituality and stuff.

Like, we're striving for something, right? People are searching. They're searching for God, and they don't know it, you know? And the church has kind of, I mean, it has in different ways, like Zion was talking about earlier, like taking God out of different areas. And so it's not full. It's not the fullness, you know, and a lot of times it turns into religion. If it doesn't look like spirituality, it looks like religion, you know.

And that's where, I mean, like when I think of religion now, you know? And that's where, I mean, like, when I think of religion now, you know, it's not, I mean, the religious people are the ones who killed Jesus. You know? Which is, I mean. And the Pharisees are out in full force today. Yeah, exactly. There's, you know, there's, in Ephesians it talks about, you know, our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against spirits and principalities and stuff. And like the principalities, like the law, the law is, you know, it tells us that we don't amount to the things that Jesus says that we do, you know. And we can only find that fullness in Christ, right?

We're only made perfect in Christ. So if we leave that out of the picture, if we leave him out of the picture, if we leave the Holy Spirit out of the picture, the one who talks to us, who intercedes for us, you know, we're left with this kind of emptiness, you know, it's almost like a despair, like the spirit of religion is left. And it's the spirit that tells us we have to be confined to this schedule, that we can't worship freely like this. You know, it has to be reverent like this. Because, I mean, not to say we don't need to be reverent. You mean there's people out there that say that God has to look a certain way? Absolutely.

Yeah. I can see you're chomping at the bits. Please share on the sign. Oh, man. I'm only chomping at the bits because, I mean, originally, starting something that's not denominational, that's not under a covering, that's not within the four walls, was like it was on the edge. A lot of people were like, I don't like that. You have to have a covering.

You have to be within a church. You have to have a denominational background. And ultimately like the unity of the body of Christ is really what we're fighting for. And so like my answer to religious leaders in that sense, isn't like, well, we just were against the church. That's not the point. The point is that we are building the church, but we're building the church with the unification of different denominational backgrounds, different perspectives of the same Lord. And so I think really the church is not deviating from the church, but if anything, it's leaving the four walls in such a way that it can be built up again. Like we are seeing God moving outside of the four walls and within these

groups of different people from different backgrounds. Like some of us grew up Southern Baptist. Some of us grew up Pentecostal. Some of us grew up, you know, X, Y, Z. And we're coming together and we're finding that we all stand on the same common ground of Jesus Christ. And when you stand on that and that firm foundation, you can't argue with it. Like really, if you're calling yourself a believer and you're saying, I love the Lord and I love Jesus, then like you can't argue that we should come together and love Jesus together, regardless of covering, regardless of background. And that's, you know, it's a fight. It's a fight for unity. The religious spirit, I want to say for those who don't know this, who have not heard this, the religious spirit literally is the Antichrist. And that religious spirit wants to do anything it can

to really keep you from knowing Jesus and walking out heaven on earth. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, we've been going through Ephesians 4 kind of as a body recently. Like the Lord's been putting that on us and stirring us. And it talks about.

I want to hear from Rebecca real quick. Sorry. I want to hear from you because I do. Tell me if I'm mistaken. Do you have a theological seminary degree from Harvard University? Am I right or wrong about that? I do not. Oh, how dare you?

So what does that look like? I mean, you know, because I know you faced some heat from this, right? You guys have faced heat for this? We were expecting more. Surprisingly, not too much. But we have heard the phrase a few times, where's your covering? What church is covering you? But Zion just summed it up so well. Like, I don't think I have. That beautiful yeah it was beautiful okay yeah all right i thought you had more to add to it but zach go ahead and finish what you were going to say bro yeah i mean like just like zion was saying though like um that oneness in the body like the thing that unifies us is christ right like um and in ephesians 4 it talks about you know he says

he's paul's prayer says you know i pray that you be brought together through the one spirit, one baptism, one faith, one God of all, like one father of all. You know, and like that's the beauty of it and the picture of it really is just like, like in this, I don't know, I feel like that was a missing piece for kind of all of this was just like how do we seek the lord's face like where do we how do we get out of a place of needing an organization or needing infrastructure or whatever and just bring it back to like what is it what does it boil down to what is it stripped down to and it's like um psalm 24 you know the one who climbs the mount of the Lord has clean hands and a pure heart. And it says a generation that such as a generation who seeks the face of God, you know. And like I feel like that's just where he's bringing it to. He's just cutting it down to like face.

It starts with the face of God. It starts with Jesus. And then from there, all else is added unto that. Yes. Yeah. Do you guys have, we're going to step into something else here, but anything that any of you want to add before we move on? I mean, I'll just say too, I think the Bible says it really clearly,

you will know them by their fruit. And so I think there's so many things that we can say about what we believe or what we're doing. And I think that it really boils down to what is the fruit? Are we seeing lives changed? Are we seeing people stepping into face-to-face encounters with Jesus? Are people actually being moved? And I mean, each and every one of us are a testimony of the way that the Lord is moving in this community and the way that God's done things. And so I think it always boils down to what is the fruit of what's happening? You about the joy of the Lord like man I growing up always thought it was the most weird thing when I saw people laughing like in the presence of the Lord I was like that's not reverent like and I love reverence I love the holy moments with the Lord but I like encountered

the Lord through a moment of joy and the Lord shifted and he's like what's the fruit what's the after point of what's happening it's It's never really about the outward expression that happens in a moment, but about the continual fruit. And so I think that's the important thing to focus on too. Amen. You will know them by their fruit. That's good. So we're going to do something a little bit different. We have maybe about 15 minutes left of the show today. And sometimes during this time, we will do testimony time. Other times we will pray and have ministry time for the people that are watching live. And if you are watching live, if you're watching at any point, like I said before, we appreciate you. Please comment.

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as well. So with the last 15 minutes today, we are going to praise and we are going to worship. And I hope and pray that wherever you are, that you're going to close your eyes, that you're going to jump up and dance around. Here's the thing about worship guys. We all worship the Lord differently. And, and, and some people raise their hands high. Other people drop on their knees. Some people cry like you worship the way the holy spirit is leading you to worship many times when i worship you will see me here like this and that does not mean that i'm checked out i am very you know listening to the lord i'm just praising him whatever that may be sometimes that's the position that i get in so we're going to give you an opportunity while

you're watching this show today and we are going to release the sound of heaven. That's one of the things that the Lord taught me coming back from the Asbury revival and from my friend John Martin's conference last year, is that we all carry a unique sound of 8 billion people on this planet. Every single one of us carries a unique sound. The sound that we carry carries a unique sound. The sound that we carry can heal the sick. The sound that we carry can cast out devils. The sound that we carry can raise the dead. And there is a unique sound that this group, that this revival is carrying. And we are going to release that sound of heaven, that sound of revival into your living room, into this atmosphere, into this city, into the air waves. So you guys go get your instruments.

And so we thank you guys for staying with us i'm just going to keep talking um i just talk about the show for next week because again we're going to have about 15 minutes of worship here i don't know if i'm going to talk anymore or not we'll just see what the lord does but you're going to see that this is freedom um i don't even know what these guys have planned and that's kind of how it was at Bridge the Gap. I was like, you guys just play and we'll just see what the Lord does. And I know that that's how it is for a lot of the places that you guys are gathering together. So, yeah, we just thank you, God.

We praise you. We glorify you. We honor you. We thank you this is all for you. We just thank you that you live in us, that you work through us. And we just thank you for the voices, the platform you have given us, Lord, to share you with the world. In Jesus' name. Thank you. This way Every day, every night I know how the past

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the sound of heaven is being released into your atmosphere, released into your living room, released into your car, released to wherever it is that you're watching, that you're going to be touched by the Holy Spirit. You're going to be touched by the living God. We speak healing and freedom and life and truth and love over you all in the name of Jesus.

We'll see you next week. Bless you. Oh, oh, oh. Thank you.