The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Blue Tidal Wave - Democrats Dominate Virginia; Why Did Democrats Dominate This Election Cycle?

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

The I Love CVille Show headlines: Blue Tidal Wave – Democrats Dominate Virginia Why Did Democrats Dominate This Election Cycle? Why Is Local/Statewide Republican Party So Bad? VA Dems Legislative Trifecta To Advance Agenda How Will Dems Impact UVA, Abortion, Marriage Rights? What Surprised You From AlbCo & CVille Elections? Orvis Closing In Stonefield, The Forge Moving CVille Business Development News & Notes Read Viewer & Listener Comments Live On-Air Conan Owen, Owner of Sir Speedy of Central VA, joined me live on The I Love CVille Show! The I Love CVille Show airs live Monday – Friday from 12:30 pm – 1:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The I Love CVille Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible, Rumble and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on a post-election day, Wednesday in downtown Charlottesville. A blue tidal wave is among us. I mean, it's emerged. It was a decisive election cycle for Democrats across the country, certainly in the Commonwealth of Virginia, as the wake of Donald Trump is still being.

felt, and it was certainly felt yesterday, certainly in the Commonwealth. The Department of Justice, the Department of Government Efficiency cuts, the overreach with the Department of Justice, the now the longest closing of the federal government in American history, just to name a few, all these factors pushed Virginians to polls at aggressive clips, ladies and gentlemen. And today on a Wednesday, the day after election day, the Democrats in the Commonwealth of Virginia have a legislative trifecta, control of the governor's mansion, control the House of Delegates, control the state senate, and that influenced, that blue tidal wave trickled down significantly to Charlottesville, to Almore County, and beyond. The only upset that was not

predicted on this program was Jim Dillenbeck winning in the Ryo district. Jim Dillenbeck, who certainly leans right, is now on the Almore County School Board. I was shocked and sadden, frankly, that Jay Jones beat Jason Miari's in the Attorney General race, especially with the despicable text messaging that's come up from the Jay Jones camp. We'll talk about that with our guest today. It's Conan Owen. He's the owner, Judah, of Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. If you have a logo and you need visibility for it, and you want increased application for your logo, there's one firm you call, and it's Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. He's a darted graduate Conan Owen. Sir Speedy of Central Virginia does the signage for the I Love Seville Studio, literally the vinyl lettering on our storefront, the banner that's

behind us, the signage in our office building on Market Street, and he is the point of contact and a key source for business development for hundreds of small business owners across Charlottesville, Almore, and Central Virginia, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia, and Conan Owen are who you call. Studio camera, Judah Wickhauer, and then have a three shot ready to go. It's going to be three guys at the local watering hole talking about what we saw, night. We will pass the audio baton to Conan first. I start with a good afternoon. It's great to have you on the show. And then I start with basically what did you see last night? Scatterchute with me. What tickled your fancy? What struck you of last night's election cycle?

Well, thanks. Great to be here again. I'm missing my water at this watering hole, so very bad service. We can get you a beer or water. Any preference? Just water for now. Okay. We'll get him Water, yeah. As for last night, I don't think it was really a surprise, mainly because, yeah, I went to vote out in Ivy and there was only one competitive race, which was for the, one contested race, I should say, which was the Board of Supervisors race out there. And when you only have one out of three local races being contested, it's kind of a foregone conclusion. It also tells you who's going to win that contested race for the most part, you know, Jim Dellenbeck notwithstanding. Yeah, same in Charlottesville.

It's just like, yeah, okay, they had four people running for three spots on the school board, but they were all pretty much philosophically aligned, so we knew where they were going. I will say, you know, we were very lucky to work with Jen Fleischer and Ziana Bryant this election cycle. They both ordered a lot of yard signs from us. A surprising number, I thought, for a local election. Both of them came out number one in their races. Can you put in perspective what a surprising amount of yard signs is numbers-wise? Three orders of like 50 each.

Yeah, so 150 yards each. That is a lot. That is a lot. That's a lot of yards signs. Sure. Dylan Beck wins Ryo District School Board. Outside of that, a complete blue tidal wave. Why don't we start Zion Bryant?

Look, I'm clear on my stance on Zion Bryant. I've said she's either the most noteworthy or the most notorious activists in Charlottesville history. And that's kind of tomato, tomato, glasses half full, glasses. half empty, it's in the eye of the beholder. My standpoint, the most notorious activist in Charlottesville history, she is now on the city school board and is one of a handful of people that will

determine how hundreds of millions of dollars are spent, of taxpayer dollars with educating our children. She's a client of yours. I understand that maybe the commentary is different for mine as it should be. Probably if I was in your seat, it would be the same. What did you make a Ziana Bryant winning a spot on the

school board? Well, I will say the other day you said something about, okay, she doesn't have kids her only qualifications are she went to school here it's like well honestly yeah you can push back on that yeah no because because honestly i'm you know look at all the experts who told us what to do during covid and it turned out all to be wrong so i'm all for having a fresh perspective i mean i personally think i could tell a school board how to do things spend money a lot more efficiently stop growing the administrative class you know really focus on resources and discipline and getting things you know getting the buses running i agree with all that yeah

So I don't think you have to be a parent. I'm not a parent, but I think I could tell them a thing or two about how to run a school district. You also are not 23, 24 years old. You also are a master's in business from the Darden School. You also have run multiple small businesses. You also have significant life experience. But some people, you know, they just may have some really good ideas. I mean, I'll wait and see.

I don't hold her, you know, as Ronald Reagan said, I don't hold her youth in an experience against her. But we'll see. It'll all come out to see, you know, to see what she comes up with. And I want to get you in on a three shot. Are you on a three shot now? Chime in on any discussion here, Zion and Brian included here. I want a gentleman, this topic for you, the viewers and listeners, and deep throat chime in, John Blair, chime in, Vanessa Parkeld chime, Lloyd Snook, Andrew Vermilion, Bill McChasney. We got supervisors and counselors watching the program right now.

Why was there a blue tidal wave this election cycle? Conan, we start with you. Judah Wickhauer, we follow. Well, in Charlottesville, because it's Charlottesville. You know, it's just the majority of the population around here. Yeah, a little different than 20 years ago, you know, especially in the county. But that's obviously changed with the incredible growth that we've had here. You know, statewide, I think a lot of it is a reaction to, you know, the changes that are

the structural changes that are having at the government level. Yeah, it sucks to have, you know, people out of it. of work, but I think part of that is a byproduct of the way our federal government is so ridiculously structured to have so many federal jobs in a single area. So naturally, that's where the pain is going to be felt the most. You know, but you also look at, you know, the job cuts that, you know, the government trade, you know, they made a lot of noise about that, but it really didn't change that much, the actual number of people. I think on the flip side, it's telling it's like, you know, how many real government services have been, you know, has any,

or their kids not getting educated because the Department of Education has been closed for 38 days? No, they haven't. They're still chugging along, you know, there's still things being done. I think it's absolutely a travesty that anyone in Washington, in the congressional side of things and in the executive office is drawing a paycheck while the rest of the country isn't. Amen, brother. That has to change right away, but it's not going to. And part of it, you know, comes back, you mentioned, you know, with the, and we'll get to this more in depth with the Board of Visitors and Spanberger having her way, and what's going on in Washington with this talk about, you know, getting rid of the filibuster, which, you know, I just have a real problem with both sides in terms of their just absolute hypocrisy. And it's the one thing, it's why I hate all politicians. It's like, sorry, even my clients who are politicians, I don't like you because I know at some point you're just going to be a hypocrite because that's part of the job description. you know, this whole idea of, oh, let's get rid of the filibuster. Well, when Schumer proposed it, it was a bad idea.

Now, Trump's proposing it. He thinks it should be a good idea. Schumer got rid of the majority vote on the justice approvals, and it came back to Biden when Trump got elected. You know, Schumer voted for a clean CR back in the fall, or in the spring, and he won't do it now because of an unrelated issue. You know, we try to get pork out of the budget, and everyone says, oh, that's great, but you turn around,

and it comes back. So they're all just absolutely worthless in my mind. And it's not going to change because of the money and the pressure and it's all about retaining power and your position in office. Comments coming in faster than I can keep up with right now. Caitlin Mancini Lawton, welcome to the program Georgia Gilmer, Carol Thorpe, Jason Noble, Bill McChesney, Bob Yarborough, Jeremy Wilson, and Eastern Tennessee. We're going to get to your comments. Marlene Jones, print radio and television watching the program. I'm going to you on Blue Tidal Wave. Your thoughts on that, Judah Wickhauer, in about 20 seconds. Democrats have a legislative trifecta now, House of Delegates, State Senate, Governor, all under Democratic control. This will most certainly

impact the University of Virginia. You see why State Democrats were so angry with interim President Paul Mahoney, who entered into, entered the agreement with the DOJ and the Trump administration weeks ago. They knew what was coming last night. We all did. This is no surprise. I agree with 99.9% of what Conan said. This is collateral damage of what Donald Trump has done in a very short time in office. Whether good, whether bad, it's impacted Virginia, ladies and gentlemen, and it's impacted Virginia enough to drive Democrats at aggressive clips to vote. Much greater clip than we saw in the Yonkin-McCullough race when there was not a presidential election at that time. So that's the comp. The comp is McCullough and Yon because there was no presidential election

on the ballot at the time, and Democrats came out in significant more masses this time versus the Yonkin and McCullough election cycle. Judah Wickhauer jump in. Conan Owen will get to you, and then we'll get to viewers and listeners comments. Judiwick Howard go. I think there's a bit of the metronome going on where, you know, every few years we bounce back and forth between one and the other, but I feel like somebody, you know, usually it's either you know it's either steady or you know if you know anything about about physics eventually eventually you need to put more energy into the system in order to keep it going

it feels like you know whether it's whether it's Trump being arrogant whether it's Trump's policies whether it's things like the DOJ trying to force UVA and other universities into deals. I feel like they're pushing, they're putting energy into that system and we're seeing the, we're seeing the result in a deeper swing. A, you know, New York City going for Mamdani. Like you said, the blue tidal wave. There is, you know, this big reaction to Trump's Trump's America and we're getting, you know, we're getting the return on that, on that energy. William McChesney says amen. Conan Owen. George Gilmer agrees with you. Money, influx of left-leading folks. Carol Thorpe says Virginia should be absolutely embarrassed for electing Jay Jones

and blue wave or not. Bill McChesney shocked Jay Jones elected. Jason Noble, in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons we lost the lost is because the Democrats are unified. The moderate Dems are unified with the extremists. This is not the case for the Republican Party. He also highlights, thank goodness, his kids are not affiliated with city schools. Deep Throat says, by the way, did you see Charlottesville City went 85% for Jay Jones, 85%. He also says all the things Coden said make total sense,

and none of them are things Zai Bryant would support. He also says this, Deep Throat, don't read too much into New York City. It isn't America anymore in the last five years out migration of native-born Americans over one million from the state and new immigration from abroad a bit less than that. And guess how many people from poor countries tend to vote? That's what he's highlighting with Manhattan and New York. Conan Owen, a lot, comments are coming in faster than I can keep up with that. Where do you want to go?

One thing I will say, I think you're a little off on your statistics. Overall turnout was down from the McCallough-Yunkin race, and the difference was... Democratic turnout was up? Was it? Yeah, Democratic turnout was it? Overall turnout was down. Democrat turnout was up. Yeah, because the Republicans lost a half million voters.

And I think part of it was gets back to, you know, what's wrong with the Republicans? There was no good, clear message. No messaging. Honestly, you know, it was like for weeks I'd see these ads for Spanberger and the rest of them. And it was just like, is there another side running here? And then the messages they came out with weren't very good. You know, but getting back to what I said earlier about, you know, hypocrisy. It's everyone complains, oh, you know, bad, you know, rhetoric and inciting this.

and inciting that it's just like but then you turn around and and nominate an attorney general who's said what he said so it's just like i'm sorry you know you've given up the moral high ground on on that and that's the problem is each side has launched their nukes and they've all done their worst and now it's you know a bunch of zombies running around and running the country because none of them have any principles and that's something i've said for for years and years is that if what you believe doesn't change in terms of what you know it's a framework of analyzing the world and that's a principle if it changes based on what you need today then that's a that's politics you know like schumer saying oh we need a clean CR and then in terms of it goes no we need to link it to health care

you know it's just like no I'm sorry that's not a principle that's that's your politic you're trying to make a political point and same thing you know if you say oh well you know violence and all you know and this and that and the other thing it's like but then you will act somebody who talks like that you're talking Jay Jones yeah And that's why it's just like, you know, they're all just trying to get what's good for them. I think this is like everything else I mentioned earlier with the extreme positions of, you know, the filibuster and all that. I think you've got a similar problem coming down the pike with the Board of Visitors. If, you know, the Senate had been blocking appointees just like Mitch McConnell blocked Merrick Garland from getting on the Supreme Court.

And now it's going to spin around and Abigail's going to get that. You don't know what's going to happen in two years. It could turn the other way, and then the Republicans are going to say, well, you know what, Abigail, you guys did this to us, so we're going to do it to you. And it just ends up being this childish game of people trying to poke each other in the eye with a longer stick. And at some point you have to get back to, like I said, principles. It's like, does the governor have the right to appoint these people or not? And if not, then everybody needs to go through a Senate vote and a Senate confirmation hearing. And if they do have the event, don't try and hold it up through procedural stuff.

3.3 million Virginians voted in this year's election cycle, and the McCullough-Yunkin cycle that was 2,500, 2,544,000. So significantly more overall in this election cycle. Judah, you jump in here. I totally agree that messaging with the Republican Party, fallout from Trump and some of his overreach, perceived overreach, has impacted the Republicans this election cycle, an extremely unapproachable Republican governor candidate

and Winsom Earl Sears who frankly ran a fractured campaign fired her campaign manager just a couple of months before election day a campaign manager that was initially hired to solicit the black vote and then fired a couple months before the election day her first campaign manager had no political experience you had the Yonken sextortion with John Reed who seemed that seemed absolutely soap opera-esque, which

is crazy. The fact that Jason Miyaris could not beat Jay Jones despite the sex scandal is a travesty. Frankly, these are my words. Virginians should be embarrassed that Jay Jones won with the text messaging rhetoric, the violence that he put out there.

And it trickles down to the local level. Goodness gracious, Fred Missal shellacked Scott Smith. We put an over-under of 10 points. It was almost twice that. What Fred Missal did. 60, 40. It was an utter domination right there.

To the point where Scott Smith wasn't even returning calls from the press, the ass beating was so bad. Okay, anywhere you want to go, we'll talk local here. We still have business news and real estate news to get to, most notably the closing of Orvis and the shops of Stonefield, which will talk about that with Conan. What's on your mind? Then we'll go to Conan. Then we'll get to comments that are coming in quickly. Conan is 100% right about messaging and the last. lack thereof, with pretty much every candidate you could mention from, from Winsome Earl Jones to

Winsome Earl Sears, to Jason Mayaris all the way down. There really wasn't a message. There certainly wasn't a consistent message. And the other side had the consistent message of, oh, they're just MAGA Republicans. And that was really, especially for our locality, the only thing you had to say. I mean, I don't really think you needed any, you didn't need bus stop visits, you didn't need Spanberger coming to town, pretty much just spin that message everywhere you go and you're going to see, you're going to see, you know, as we did, people come out of the woodwork to vote for Democrats. Conan Owen. No matter what. Yeah, this is how, this is how bad the Republicans were this cycle. Look at their ticket. Black woman immigrant, gay man, son of Cuban

immigrants. Incumbent. Incumbent. And two, two out of three are and, you know, running for a reelection. And they got their ass beat. Yeah. It's just like, you know, they walk into a bar, they walk into a, they walk into a polling place and nobody notices. Right. It's, it's, it's like a bad joke. It really, it really was. It's just like how, how did this, you know, it's just like, that's, that's but and the funny thing is that if you look at you know Trump did not win Virginia but Yonkin did and if you look at the difference between you know Yonkin really had the school thing going for him and when some tried to carry that but it was like that kind of has already played out it's like everyone already said you know what they thought about it it got Yonken and he got

a lot of the suburban folks that were kind of those moderate voters a lot of northern Virginia voters that you know may or may not be government employees or at least no government have a lot government employees in their neighborhood. I think that soured a lot of people. You know, whose fault the shutdown is? You can debate all day long just like they're doing up in town, but the reality is that's what you're living with. 100%.

And the Republicans took it on the chin for the government shutdown. And whose fault it is, we can debate that all day. But the people that took the collateral damage for the longest shutdown in American history were the Republicans on the ticket this cycle. Yes, especially in Virginia, very little impact in New Jersey or New York. 100%. 100%. So I'll throw this to you, gentlemen, and comments are coming in quickly. Let's go to Carol Thorpe, the Queen of Jack Jewett. She follows politics closely.

She says the Winsome Earl Sears campaign was one of the weakest and most ineffective campaigns I have ever witnessed. She may have made a good governor, but she was absolutely lousy candidate. She also says John Reed was a ghost for most of this run. Only Jason Miyari's showed any fire at the top of the ticket. Carol Thorpe, I agree with you often. I a thousand percent agree with that comment right there from the Queen of Jack Jewett. Let's ask both you guys this question and the viewers and listeners this question. Judah, I'll start with you on this one. The Democrats and the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, do either of you identify with today's version of the Democratic Party or

the Republican Party? Are they caricatures of their former selves? Where do you stand politics-wise in this two-party system? Judah, I'm curiously your thoughts on this one. I don't know that I really I don't know that I really identify with either either side I think most of the people watching this show know that I tend towards

common sense at least as I see it it is my own common sense it's you know thinking about things and not just endorsing something because that's what everybody else is endorsing

and yeah I really see see, like I said, a metronome, there's very little, that's not true. On the national stage, there seems to be very little, you know, reaching across the aisle, very little moving towards the center, very little trying to find common ground and solutions that work for everyone. It's an either-or, it's a zero-sum game where either you're right or or the other guy is wrong and that's always the case and you it's both sides kona yeah i i agree i mean i think back

you know i grew up in the dc area um i've you know been around politics my entire life i i don't recognize either of the parties you know i think back to you know jack kennedy you know saying tax cuts lifting you know rising tide lifts all boats well you can't say that in the democrat party anymore and you know some of the south even Even some of the stuff that, you know, Reagan talked about with giving amnesty to illegals and agreeing to some tax cuts in 1986, you know, you'd never get a Republican. I mean, look what happened to George H.W. when, you know, he did the read my lips and he got drummed out of office after one term. So, you know, it started shortly after Reagan, kind of for

both parties, is it really started that divide. And, you know, the mud slinging and the real dirt behind things. It just kept getting uglier and uglier and uglier. And I think we've gotten to the point now where there's a lot of, you know, they're just true division. And, you know, you see the comments on social media and people unfriending each other over politics. It's nasty. Yeah, it's just like, I don't, you know, I look at you, you know, what kind of human being are you? I understand. You know, it's like even with my own family, we don't agree on stuff. And, and that's fine. But, you know, there are a lot of things that, you know, are going to change over time. And there's also, there's, I think part of the problem is there's also an expectation that if you don't think the way I do, then there's something wrong with you.

Or if you aren't part of this monolith. And I think that was one thing that was a, the real big surprise in the last presidential election was the number of Latinos that voted for Trump was through the roof, you know, 40 something percent in a lot. lot of cases, his increase in the black vote was tremendous, one of the highest ever for, I think it was the highest ever for a Republican. You know, but then he lost the, you know, the educated white women. And you see that very much as part of the, you know, the strong protest movement, you know, who are the people out protesting on college campuses and all that? And it's college educated white women. So there's become this real divide in the country that is really difficult to navigate.

And you see it, you know, on some of these comments in social media that we, you know, we've talked about how, you know, people come out and say, oh, well, that business, you know, supported this person or, or, and all of that. It's just like, business is business, you know, I don't, you know, did I ask Zionne Bryant what her positions were? No, she needed signs made. I'll make signs and I'll make them same day for you. She pays you for a service.

She pays me for service. That's all I care about. Yeah. You know, and, you know, the Republicans, if they weren't so damn cheap, they would have bought stuff for me, too. You should talk about this. What are you seeing with that? Seriously.

Well, I got contacted by one of the guy who was the head of the county chairman for all the counties in Virginia. And they wanted 1,500, 4 by 8 yard signs to put up all over the state. And I gave them the rock bottom price I could give them. And they said, oh, well, one of the other chairman found some company in Ohio that will do it for a dollar assigned less. That's insanity right there. And I was just like, so let me get this straight, sir, for 4% less, because I was going to charge him 25 bucks for, that was a big order, it was 2,000 signs or something. They're like, for a dollar less, you're going to send this out of state. It's like, where's this, you don't support small business.

Yeah. No, you're the cheapest, you're going for the cheapest guy on the block. I mean, that's a big problem in general in politics because they're trying to stretch their donation dollars as far as they go. And I learned last cycle to make sure to get paid up front because if your candidate loses, his money dries up and you don't want him holding any bills. A couple. Yeah?

Yeah. Anyone you want to name? No, it's all right. Okay. They got trounced badly enough in the election. lecture that that's enough for that okay all right comments are coming in quickly but yeah that that that that to me is you know it it becomes a really a really difficult thing to say you know what it's like you know I'm here to you know if people that you know for me first of all and everyone that came in that you know

whether they want you know just a flyer for their campaign the first thing I say to them is thank you for putting yourself out there yeah I don't care what you believe I mean that is a brutal thing that you're that you're exposing yourself yeah yeah yeah well I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna add a little bit of color here. Think about the Elmoral County Republican Party. The only contested election in the Board of Supervisors was Scott Smith and Fred Missile. The Republicans of Almore County in the Samuel Miller District could not run a candidate for the Jack Jewett race. Sally Duncan ran unopposed of the general election, right? She lost, she beat Dave Shreve in the Democratic primary. The Almore County Republicans could not run a candidate in the

Rio District for the third straight term, Ned Galloway has run unopposed. And the only candidate the Almore County Republicans could run in the Samuel Miller District was Scott Smith, who's lived in Almore County for like four years and had zero name recognition. And he ran against Fred Missal, who's been here basically his whole life, and it's got a generation of roots and connections in Almore County. That shows you how bad it's a microcos. It's a microcos. How bad the Elmorrow County Republican Party is right now. No candidate for Ryo District, no candidate for Jack Jewett, and the only candidate they ran for Board of Supervisors

was someone who's lived in this area for 48 months and got beat by almost 20 points. I mean, I have the impression that the Republican Party in this area is just a couple people in a dark room somewhere. 100%. And they come out once a year. I'm surprised that they even heard about Smith. and I would bet you Smith found them.

I bet you that's how that worked. I was going to say somehow he stumbled into that dark room and they bumped into each other. Yeah. And if that hadn't happened, he would have, he would have still just ran and said he was Republican and really, I don't think there would have been any days. And there would have been no different. 100%. Comments are coming in quickly for both you guys. John Blair is watching the program.

A couple of thoughts. No Republican John Blair says has won a statewide election in Virginia without carrying Virginia Beach since 1977. 1973 is the last time they won a statewide election without carrying Virginia Beach. Second, I was driving around running errands a few weeks ago. I turned on W.I.N.A.

and somehow caught Rob Schilling, saying the following. He had tried to get Wittemarle Sears to come on his program for weeks and could not get a call back. Now, all three of you know what that means. How in the world can you run as a Republican and refuse an offer to come on a radio show with a friendly Republican host?

Just shocking. He also says, Jason Miari's, by the way, did not carry his home city of Virginia Beach, by the way. John Blair closes with this. As to consequences, you'd have to be an absolute idiot to allocate a single dollar of capital towards multifamily real estate in Virginia over the next four years. You'll see rent control for sure, which will only lead to extraordinary constriction of supply. John Blair, he's a man in the know. Fantastic comments from him.

How about this stat for both you guys? And then Conan, you jump in, go anywhere you want. How about this one from Deep Throat, who's very much a data guy. He says, you know what is another great stat from the exit polls? Winsom Earl Sears, a black woman, got 4% of the vote from black women. Seriously, 4%. Abigail Spamberger earned 96% of the vote from black women voters. Winston Earl Sears, 4%.

Conan Owen, a lot to unpack. Comments are coming in extremely quickly. What's the impact on the University of Virginia? Yeah, because that impacts our business world. Oh, very much so. I think you're going to see what I mentioned is, you know, the Democrats are going to come in and they're going to start naming people to the boards of visitors as they peel off whether or not they're going to be able to impeach them

or whatever they have to do to remove any of the existing folks. I don't know that that's something that you're, I don't know that that's a road you want to go down because it really opens a Pandora's box about what could happen somewhere. And that's the other problem with politicians. they don't think beyond the next election and they don't think about the good of the country or their own policies or what it all means.

So I would caution them against going, you know, trying to remove people from the Board of Visitors. But I think, you know, they are going to very clearly move their agenda. I don't think they can do anything about the agreement that Mahoney signed. And it would be really interesting to see, you know, what they end up doing in terms of,

So are they just going to, you know, turn this into a big fight and say, you know, we're bringing back, you know, all the things that the Trump administration opposed to, you know, because they say, I can't undo the agreement, but I can just not follow it and say, okay, what are the consequences? The federal funding. Yeah, and let's see what really happens there. And how much of it really is, you know. Legitimate funding. Yeah, because, you know, one of the things they said was, oh, well, you have to sign this agreement in order to get preferential treatment. in the allocation of funding that doesn't mean the federal funding goes away yeah it just means you may not be you know give it on the line you may not get a gold star in your application you're just put in with the

rest of the people so you know what the real effects were was really kind of hard to determine so it'll be interesting to see how that works out you know does the university dip into its considerable endowment to fund any of this stuff because that's the thing that's always floored me is that they've got so much money that they could easily 15 billion dollars okay 15 billion dollars If you do a conservative return on it, it's like the number of full scholarships they could fund for people, you know, you could give a 10 scholar, you know, a scholarship for the top graduate of every high school in every county in the state. And you could fund that out of your, you know, the change that collects in the couch cushions at JPJ. It just, it just seems that, you know, but you drive around town. It's like how many construction projects are going on right now and how much real.

state are they buying up and you know what exactly are they they doing with that and is it um you know is it really in the academic interest is building a hotel and conference center really in their in the interest of uva if you don't have a hospitality school i mean if you think about it they should have one because they've got you know you've got the forum on grounds which is owned by the darden foundation you've got the new virginia guest house the mansion at birdwood you've got the Boershead Resort, you've got all these dining halls and everything. It's like you could open a hospitality school here, but they don't seem to be interested in that. And that's why I don't know what their decision-making process is. But, you know, they are swallowing up a lot of the real estate,

which, you know, they're not paying taxes. They've got an advantage in bidding. So it would be really hard for, I'm always amazed when, you know, a commercial entity gets a hold of a piece of property that UVA was even remotely interested in just because they have the bidding advantage. But that kind of leads also to what I heard you saying earlier before the show started was, you know, development. It's like, okay, now development's going to be full speed ahead because there's no one to stop them. It's like, well, that used to be the Republican position. But now here in this area, you've got the Democrats are divided between growth and no growth when it used to be the Republicans arguing with the Democrats about growth. The only issue I see that the Democrats are divided on right now is,

actually development of green space in Almaro County. And the city of Charlottesville, we see Democrats that are extremely pro-development and pro-housing and whatever housing stock that is. We saw that with the new zoning ordinance. Al-Morrow County Democrats are divided on development. The only thing, Republicans

in Al-Morrow County are divided across the board. They can't get on the same bus to save their lives here. Comments are coming in extremely quickly on the impact of the University of Virginia. Spamberger is going to get in office. My prediction is the rector, Rachel Sheridan, her days are numbered. And it's going to be a malfeasis, malpractice type of push. The same

thing Yonkin did with Bert Ellis. And Rachel Sheridan's going to be off the board. I also think Porter Wilkinson, the vice rector, she's in extremely hot water right now with Spamberger and the House of Delicates of the State Senate being trifecta, completely controlled by the Democrats right there. Spamberger's going to have five appointments coming up. You're going to see this BOV have a completely different makeup. And then you're going to start seeing these positions at the University of Virginia filled with like-minded people and people willing to take these positions. Remember, being a school president, Jim Ryan's words, it's no way to make a living. His words, this is no way to make a living. You need the board to be on your side. If you want to be a school

president, you want to take this job. Judah Wickower, you jump in here anywhere you want to go. Comments are coming in. I'm going to highlight those comments. We'll go back to Conan. Very curious of your thoughts on Dylan back getting a victory. That could be something that you pontificate about. You know the man well. He's a member of your church, a deacon at your church here. How about the Dillon Beck win in the Ryo District School Board? I think that was, you know, I said he was going to get it, and it turned out to be true. He worked his butt off.

He's been working for, what, four elections, two of them, two of them because I think, let's see, one was because Carlson left the seat to take a higher position. Delegate, then he wanted to get in the mix when Chuck Pace died. He did not get the appointment when Pace died. But throughout his campaigning, he's stuck with it. He's talked to people door to door and where I think a lot of politics is, you know, picking one side over the other. I think Jim Dillenbeck just convinced people face to face that he had

not only what it takes but also great ideas and I think it's going to be a spectacular voice on the school board and I'm excited to hear how things go Is there some kind of dichotomy we can highlight here

fellas with Zayana Bryant getting on the school board in the city of Charlottesville and Jim Dellenbeck getting on the school board in Almar County Dylan Beck and Zayana Bryant are polar opposites and in neighboring jurisdictions, Almore County voters in the Ryo district handpicked Dillembeck over someone that was already on the board and voters in the city council

pick either the most noteworthy or the most notorious activist in Charlottesville history to be on the school board. Is there any kind of dichotomy there to highlight? Well, just honestly, part of the thing is that, you know, the city, it's a city-wide election as opposed to a district election. So if you're in the right district in the county, you might find a very different demographic.

And also when you look at the numbers of people, when you're running essentially unopposed, you know, it's like it's all Democrats coming out. You pick three out of the four on the ballot. So I think it's more kind of based on the structure of who gets in because at the same time, they also, you know, elected the other two. yeah one uh two two incumbents yeah emily duly emily and larsson so you know it's like is there a dichotomy there no it's just it's it's just charlottesville versus you know city everything citywide not ward based and and and the county being you know on a district basis lisa larson torres uh cooper the shot cooper has lost another election might be time for mr cooper to hang on hang up his spurs on time will tell he is an extremely influential member

of the Charlottesville Democratic Party. I believe the vice chair of the Democratic Party, Mr. Cooper. Let me throw this question to you. You are in the business of doing business with other businesses. You are B2B. Do you feel more bullish or bearish today with running a business that's B2B in Charlottesville, now Mara County primarily? No change. No change. Wow. Okay. change. Wow. Explain why. I thought there could be, I thought it might be more bearish today, but am I, I read that role? Well, I mean, part of the thing is, you know,

you've got the major news coming to, you know, the big employers, you know, they're not, they don't change very much. AshtraZeneca, okay. And part of it is, you know, whatever it was, whatever Yonkin Magic had, the one thing I would be, actually, I will say this is one thing I'll be concerned about, more about the state, wide level, more so than the Charlottesville wide level, the other day Spanberger came out and said she will not work with Trump on job creation.

She said, you know, that's like helping the arsonist rebuild the house after he burned it down. Big problem with that is they overlap for three years. So three out of her four years in office, she's saying, I'm not going to go help bring, you know, because it isn't just the governor that brings these things in. A lot of it also comes. I mean, look at the discussions Trump's having right now with Eli Lillian Nova Nordisk about bringing lower prices for the, the weight loss drugs, you know, and guess what happens when you cut that from $600 a month to $100 a month, your demand goes up, and those drugs haven't been in huge supply, so they're

going to have to build manufacturing plants somewhere. And if, you know, if Trump's the one who helped them get their volume up, he's probably, you know, his administration's going to have an influence on where those plants might go. And if Spanberger's like, no, I'm not going to talk to him, well, guess what? They're going to Tennessee or they're going to Texas or Florida or some other place that will welcome them so that i think from a statewide um would it have an impact on on on this area possibly but i think that's my biggest my biggest concern um but i think there's so much upside in this area as well in terms of you know you've got all this great real estate in wainsborough that would be

amazing for manufacturing um all those abandoned warehouses um lots of great space you've got lower cost you know i don't think you have the development restrictions there that you have i know i know, Atlantic Builders and Greenwood are putting up lots of developments over there, mainly as a bedroom community for Charlottesville, but, you know, Stanton's growing a lot with the hospital and all those distribution centers out there. I think there's enough momentum for Virginia as a place to do business that I'm not too, I'm not too worried about it in this market. I'm more worried about kind of the day-to-day low-level, and I mean not low-level because

it's not important, but kind of much below the good. governor's purview but things like you know safety and cleanliness of the downtown mall you know what is the long-term plan for our shopping centers on 29 that are stumbling and even you know pan at the base of pantops because there's a lot of commercial real estate out there that is kind of on that that teetering of you know are we going to be able to really take it to the next level even stonefield now with the orvis leaving you know in that restaurant traviz India has been empty for, Lord knows how long. Beginning of COVID.

You know, yeah, the one thing I will say, they are getting, they are staying a swing on that as you drive up, uh, Bond Street there on the right, you're getting, um, steak shack is taking over the old burger box space. You've got this new chicken salad restaurant concept that's coming in there. Is that going on Stonefield or Barracks Road? That's Stonefield. That's Sofield, the chicken salad chick. Chicks.

Yeah, the chick, chicken salad chicks, I think is what it's called. And then I just saw that there is a. clothing store going in in one of the spaces there near lulu lemon called s h franklin their website didn't say a whole lot but i saw a related post somewhere that there used to be a men shop in lynchburg years ago called s h franklin so i don't know if they borrowed the name or this is a reincarnation or what so you're getting you know three new tenants there relatively quickly which i think will help but now you know you've got orvis coming empty and you have the and Crate Mara went out last month.

So there's a lot of turnover there. There's significant turnover. Whereas Barrick seems to be doing much better. There's a new tenant already signed for the Peter Chang space. You've got Roeback going in at the North Wing. There's going to be an announcement relatively soon about the bedbath and beyond space. And they're also doing a very large renovation plan for next year for the whole shopping center are going to connect the island.

So the island's no longer going to be an island. They're going to be public dining spaces and outdoor spaces. That's a genius. Yeah. That's a smart move. So that's going on. That's a good thing. There's a couple of other interesting happenings.

It's kind of north in the county. There's this, I don't know, the forge. It's a game shop. So if you like Pokemon and Magic the Gathering and things of that nature, They're moving up to Holly Mead on the left-hand side next to Tony's Diner. The very nice young couple that is moving this business, they've outgrown their space on Angus Road. It's a world I don't know anything about.

I gave up my Dungeons and Dragons geekiness in my 20s. I'm now entering the Pokemon world as a father of two young boys. Well, you'll probably spend lots of time up there. They previously were by Kinnit Brothers. Yes. And they're moving to a bigger space, more Class A at high. Yeah, ground floor retail. Hollymeet's seeing some movement over there.

They are. Another one of your clients, is that Hollymean? You broke that news on this program. The Fox Den. The Fox Den is getting outfitted right now. They're hoping to open by Thanksgiving. But the Forge is going to be an interesting place. They have been chosen to host a regional competition for a Star Wars role play game.

Fantastic. Which I don't know anything about. All I know is they're saying they have to rent a ballroom like the Omni or something to house all the pointy heads that are going to come play this game. So, I mean, that's kind of a big deal if you're getting hundreds of kids from the region coming, you know,

and you have to rent a ballroom to entertain them for the day. So that's going to be an interesting business model there. But, yeah, the Fox Den is going to be opening very soon. And their owner who owns the Seville Blues Football Club, they're getting ready for another season. They're probably going to be back at Charlottesville High School, but they may be moving to a bigger venue, waiting to hear on that. Comments coming in.

Carol Thorpe's got a good one here. When Abigail Spanberger is sworn into office as Virginia's first female governor, it will mark the first time in more than a decade that Democrats will lead D.C., Maryland, and Virginia at the same time. The last time Democrats led all three was in January 2015. Back then, Terry McCullough was governor. Martin O'Malley was finishing his second term as governor of Maryland, and Mariel Bowser was just starting her first term as mayor of D.C. Carol, I appreciate your comments on the show today.

This is from William, the mayor of McIntyre. Will the recessionary decline continue in downtown Charlottesville or will the homeless shelter move the metronome back the other way? One of the things that I'm hoping will move the metronome when it comes to the houseless back the other way is the homeless shelter, $6.2 million plus millions more to upfit it all in. The city's going to be on the hook for more than $10 million of taxpayer resources, and then they have to fund the day-to-day operations of this 27,000 square foot homeless campus

that you can see from the bypass. Any more thoughts you want to offer on what you're seeing with that homeless campus? My big question is what's the mechanism for getting the people off the downtown mall and off of Market Street, you know, so they're no longer congregating around the haven. And does the haven? go away because as long as it's there. Haven, I've been told we'll go away for $5 million. That's what I've been told. And I continue to mention that on the show.

It has got me in hot water with some, but that's just the facts. If folks want the haven to go away, the folks run in the haven say it's going to take them $5 million. Well, probably because they're going to want to open another facility. They just want to exit. And they say their numbers $5 million, which is considerably more than market value.

They're like, we're going to continue doing this unless you give us $5 million. So what does a nonprofit do with $5 million? I think the man that owns the real estate gets a nice little payday. Got it. Okay. That's what he's being played out. Okay. But now, my big concern with that is, I mean, just because you put the, you know, if you build it, will they come?

because you're not allowed to forcibly remove them and take them there under our local current set of laws unless there's, you know, maybe they'll change that with some kind of mechanism to say, well, if you are like in a business's doorway, you were considered trespassing and you will be removed after so many violations. I don't know what the, what it is. I think it's a great idea. You know, and yeah, it is unfortunate that it may affect, you know, the Aberdeen Barn. And a few other business, but at the same time, it's just like, look at what the people on the downtown mall have had to deal with for over a decade. It's just like, I'm sorry, you know, somebody has to bear the brunt of this. You can't, they can't exist in a spaceship. I showed some commercial real estate a couple weeks ago, downtown, showing what, phenomenally well, phenomenally well. It was going to be three offices leased as we're walking out of this tour, second tour, most positive commentary after the tour ever. Literally, two homeless guys are fighting, throwing punches at each other, much to the horror of the folks on the tour who chose not to rent the space.

Yeah. Literally, this happened to me within the last 30 days, and you know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. In the last 30 days, that happened to me. Yeah. It was three offices. We're talking many thousands of dollars a month in rent rule. And, you know, and if that happens in the middle of the day, you can imagine.

And you can imagine what happens at night. Literally day-time. And, you know, what does that do for your meals tax? And, you know, we've talked in the past about, you know, the decline in the meals tax and the decline in the foot traffic. And part of the thing is now you've gotten, you know, areas like, you know, Belmont is really sprung up now. The Jervi got to eat there a couple of weeks ago. It was amazing. The steakhouse at Belmont.

The new, yeah. Tell us about that experience. That ain't cheap. No, it sure wasn't. But then again, nothing in Charlottesville is. The fine dining scene in a restaurant, you know. Let me answer you this question. What was the total bill?

two people you and your wife did you guys drink yeah we usually we'll split a bottle of wine when we go out no dessert with tip

pretty much anywhere we go now is about 250 so this is 250 bucks yep okay did the experience in the food justify a 250 bill the jervy was

pretty close so you say you give that a yes yeah okay now you had another dining experience yeah I did have another dining experience. I'd rather not. Okay. I'd rather not say where. Okay. But another new restaurant in town.

Same price point. The wine was very good. But otherwise, it was mediocre at best. Not justified the $2.50. No, the service wasn't great. The food wasn't great. Place was packed. I'll give them that. Maybe it's curiosity. Novelty? Yeah. Is it sustainable? They got to turn it around.

interesting location for that one that we're not going to be they they they got to turn it around but part of the thing is you know we go to black cow we go to tabela on a regular basis those are the best of the best those those are the best the best we go to um petty paw on kind of a catty paul's the great not anymore not anymore because the weather change we love sitting outside um despite the homeless entertainment but what he what brian hellenberg has done at peti plaw is build that wall of gardening yeah that garden wall around the outdoor patio it keeps growing and it and it helps a lot it's genius it gives a great ambiance. But yeah, you know, if you go to one of the top places when get a bottle of wine, you know, it's $125 a head by the time it's all in. That's bananas. Yeah, well, you've

also got that 10% meals tax. Yeah, 12%. You know, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it is bananas. And it's, it's getting to the point, you know, and then if you, and this guy and his wife have money here. Well, uh, well, you put a lot of money into your business. How's that? That's true. I'm starting to get it back out. It's, it's been a, it's been a slow process. But, no, there's, you know, and then if you have to pay to park in one of these parking lots for anywhere from $5 to $20 for dinner, it really does add up. I want to highlight the Vermilions, John and Andrew Vermillion, Charlestful Sanitary Supply, 61 consecutive years in business. John and Andrew Vermillion, their business, Charlesville Sanitary Supply, run by the same family for three generations, located on East High Street and online at charlesfulanitary Supply.com. They have free in-market delivery, ladies and gentlemen.

They literally will offer better service, better product, and free delivery that's faster on your doorstep than any of the big box stores can do. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply for anything sanitary related. Carly Wagner has comments. She's fantastic. Was it the quote something like $58 million to run 12 bus routes on one day a week? I can only imagine the annual cost for operating the new shelter. My friend from out of town had a work retreat in Charlottesville. and as a reward as a reward for hitting their sales goals their feedback the downtown mall is absolutely gross saw a man pooping in the bushes that's what carly says your friends my parents visited the downtown charlesville they also said the same thing my wife had a friend that was in a wedding and they stayed at the omni and this friend was a made of honor and my wife and i's wedding so she saw downtown charlottesville they live in massachusetts she saw downtown charlesville pre-covid and then because she saw it

pre-COVID literally booked a room on the Omni because of what you remember the downtown mall was and then came a month and a half ago the downtown mall to try to have the same enjoyment she said what the hell is happening here our exact words yeah when i when i moved here 20 years ago we loved coming to the downtown mall everyone did and i'm actually meeting with greer this week to talk about their holiday planning because it's moving to a new location friends of sebo yeah yeah among other things but yeah there's just so much going on i did want to mention one thing, UVA football. Yeah, please.

I thought it was going to be another same, another year of disappointment. And after the NC State game, I was convinced as like, what's the point? But like Ted Lassow said, believe. So I made up Believe UVA football laptop stickers. You can get them at Moes, you can get them at Popitos,

you can get them at Mincer's, and a few other places we'll be announcing. They're for free. Just go in and ask for one when you make your order. because, you know, they've got a cake schedule the rest of the season. Why know it's for Speedy branding on this? You don't want to do it? It's not what it's about. It's not what it's about.

Okay. It's about the UVA football. I respect this. I like this. It's about UVA football. Just like when we did the posters with the rotunda and it said UVA Strong, we gave those out for free, didn't put our branding on, and we just wanted to get it out in the community. I respect that. I respect that.

And then the one thing I will say where I will give a shameless plug is we're getting to holiday season. So if you need any swag for your employees, if you need wearables, you need things embroidered, you need coffee mugs, technology gifts like wireless charging pads, briefcases, anything you can put your logo on. We just did an order of a thousand insulated spigot covers for a property management company to give to all their tenants so that their pipes don't freeze. Which one is that? Real Property Presidential.

Yeah, Doug Brooks. Yeah, Real Property Presidential. Oh, that's Cheryl Reynolds. She's one of our tenants. Yes, she is. Second floor here. She's awesome. Yeah, she stopped by yesterday to pick those up.

Cheryl Reynolds. But yeah, but literally anything you can put a logo on, we can provide for you if you want to step and repeat for your holiday party. Just like the banner behind me and Conan. We can do one of those for your selfie spots. Did you do Diana Bryant's? Seven repeat? Fantastic.

Conan, you're doing a good job over there. We did her stickers as well. We did her sample ballots over. She brought them in Monday at five. Comments coming in. This from the King of Redfields, Bob Yarborough. I trust this man, respect this man. He says the J. Jones victory should not be a real surprise. The quality and decency of our public political discourse has been devolving for quite some time without any real consequences for the offenders. Look at Trump. He talks of grabbing women by the, you know what, and openly muses about training rifles on Liz Cheney. He's elected and even reelected. Jones regrettably texts loose impact when lost in a sea of rhetoric that regularly devalues the lives as not only opponents, but a whole segment.

of our population. Absent that shock, voters could more easily sideline those texts and focus on the issue that impact their everyday lives. That appears to be what voters across the nation did last night. The electorate rejected the policies and actions of the current administration and the candidates aligned with the GOP paid the price. For all the challenges Jones presented as a candidate, his campaign made an excellent decision by focusing on Jason Miyari's closeness with Trump. Quite simply, the majority of people are no longer in transatlantic. by the POTUS and his psychophants. The messaging for Democrats was this.

This is how the Democrats won. We are the opposite of Trump, so vote for us, right? That's how they want. And Bob Yarborough wants to highlight, I will say I absolutely love downtown Charlottesville. I love downtown Charlottesville, too. Bob, I think we can be an agreement here that downtown Charlottesville needs some. It needs some fixing. Fixing. It needs some fixing. And, you know, that comes from leadership.

Tom Powell, watching the program, the founder of Toy Lift. You need the young people from the forge on your show. The gaming community is large and growing in our area. A great opportunity for families to get together and have fun. Multiple people are highlighting that 85% of the city of Charlottesville elected Jay Jones, and they're calling that absolutely shameful. I do want to highlight Oak Valley custom hardscapes. We've got to get you. with them. Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes, anything Hartscape related at your house, at your place of business. Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes is who you call. The hardscapes they're doing not only drive return on investment, but ladies and gentlemen, they drive return on experience and return on life. I know firsthand. Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes, fantastic office in the downtown mall

in the Wells Fargo building. Conan and Judah, we are 65 minutes in. I would love closing thoughts from your guys. Anywhere you want to go. What do you make of the Orvis closing? Deep Throat says this. Orvis is closing half its stores. It's a dying brand. Tariffs were a kick to the guy on the ground. And he says it shouldn't really be taking as evidence of anything at Stonefield,

but he agrees that Stonefield does seem to have extremely high turnover. Yeah, I mean, it could just be very bad luck. But, you know, I'm pretty, well, you know, Orvis stores are corporately owned, so they're taking that decision at a different level. This is good for Almore Angler. Yeah, it's very good for Anger, who's one of our clients. This is the Barracks Road Shopping Center. And they're local.

Yeah, they're very local. And that's a nice thing is, you know, I'm sure they were not happy when Orvis opened. But, you know, they're surviving and Orvis isn't. So, you know, that's... It reminds me of the happy cook with William Sonoma. And is it the Amar Angler? Is that what it is? Yeah, Almar Angler.

And the Almar Angler and Orvis. The big box brand loses... To the little guy. Yeah, well, and that's getting harder and harder because our society has gone so much to convenience and the delivery services and, you know, not, you know, not supporting the, I mean, look what, you know, the delivery services are doing to the restaurant industry. Yeah. I wish we would just as a society just stop that. And it also impacts the labor market horribly is you have an entire generation of people who are working when they need money, not. creating a career. So you have all of these delivery folks and gig economy people and, you know,

they've got three different emblems on their car for who they work for and, you know, they do what they want. And then it's like, oh, you know, working is something I do when I have nothing better to do or I need money. But there's no savings. There's no growth. There's no career opportunities. And it makes it really hard for, you know, some of these service businesses and, you know, even me to find an entry-level person that I can train. It's like, you know, people don't want to show up and work a nine to five job where it's hard and there's some manual labor and there's math involved. You know, you'd be amazed how many people don't know how to use a ruler. It's like what's kind of hard to cut a five by seven postcard if you can't use a ruler to figure out which side is the five and which side is the

seven. But it's, I think it's doing a lot of, you know, a lot of damage to our long-term economic liability. You know, if you think about bringing in manufacturing, it's like, who's going to go, who's going to go do this stuff? Because you have to go, you know, BRCC has a great program in advanced manufacturing, but you have to, you know, spend time in school and learn how to program, you know, CNC routers and things like that. And, you know, a lot of these folks are just like I'd rather sit home and play video games than go pick up a shift on DoorDash.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I just got a notification on my phone sent by someone that I trust that is very connected. The Charlottesville Police Department is currently responding to an, armed barricade. The Charlottesville Police Department is currently responding to an armed barricaded individual at the Ocano Lodge on Holiday Drive. Expect a significant police presence in the area. Avoid the vicinity until further notice.

This is the same area where the homeless shelters are going to be. This is literally next to the homeless shelter here. Right next to the Aberdeen Barn. Next to the Aberdeen Barn, 100%. This comes in. I'll remind you, but don't say my name, please. Fred Missal came by my hand. house and basically told me he leaned center aisle but is running Democrat and I said

because you will win that way and he kind of just smiled but didn't confirm but didn't disagree he said there won't be an R or a D by my name on election day but I had to pick something which of course D works better for the area but with that said I wish him the best and pray for success that's for a mom that's that's from a mom who has four kids that are in or will be in Amoro County Public Schools but I will not utilize her name Judea, any closing thoughts that you want to offer the talk show? We should get more candidates with that kind of wisdom. He knew how to play the game and win the election.

Fred Missel is no dummy. Good job. That's for sure. Fred Missal is no dummy. He's a smart man. And I don't want to knock Scott Smith. No. But Scott Smith, four years in the area,

embracing the R as if it was an S on his chest and he had a red cape on was crazy thinking. Yeah. It was absolutely crazy thinking. And it's no knock because he at least tried. But that was never going to win.

This comment's on the feed and I'll highlight it by a comment from the Queen of Jack Jewett. Fantastic show today, Jerry Judah. Thanks to Conan for his contributions as well. Today's show was excellent. That is all over the feed today. I will highlight this as well.

Conan is someone I try. trust with our dollars, our firm's money, my family's money. He's done very well by our building, our tenants, and our firm, and I sincerely mean that. Sir Speedy, Central Virginia, has done well by us. Judah Wickhauer is off the camera, on camera today, but oftentimes behind the camera. 16 years at this shop, he is fantastic people as well, and this is the I Love Seville show. It's 70 minutes straight of content today. Conan made the program better, Judah made the program better.

It was nice to sit shotgun alongside you guys. I thought you guys were fantastic today. That's the I Love Seville Show, guys. Thank you for joining us in so long. Thank you, we're awesome. Well, thanks. You were very... Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.