The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Chris Beck Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show!”

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Chris Beck of Risen Ridge Ministry joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

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And I thank you for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, Carl, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. We're very excited for the show today. I'm going to have my brother, Chris Beck. He's going to be our featured guest today. But you know, guys, I promised the Lord when I started this show that I would allow him. This is his show. It's not my show. It's his show and that we would be spirit led. And so today it was very interesting. I was not even supposed to be in the country today, but things happened. Our trip to Africa got canceled and I am here in studio. So this is a very, about 30 minutes ago, maybe 30, within 30 minutes to an hour, the Lord did something very supernatural and he put it on my heart that these men had to

come on the show. So this will be part of our testimony time today. and this testimony just happened um a young man who uh is from uh is which country syria damascus yeah damascus syria and so we know about damascus in scripture don't we it's the same to damascus right yes yeah so carl and we some are going to join us if you want to put them on the screen uh judah that would be great and so it was just such a beautiful thing the lord put it on my heart that these guys had to come share. So Carl, are they on the screen yet, Judah? Yeah, so my brother Carl Selman has been in Charlottesville for a long time. We've been good friends for many years now.

And Wiesem, who we actually just met about an hour ago, is on the show. So you tell me that's not Holy Spirit-led. But it's just one of those stories, guys, that our testimony is so powerful. And this is one of those testimonies that I really do believe is meant to be shared with the world. And it really is a real-life Joseph from the Old Testament testimony. And so he's going to share a little bit about that. But first, Carl, I want to introduce you. Good friends for many years.

Say hi. Hey, Nate. Thanks for having me on the show. Yeah, of course. Anything on your heart just to share? Nate has been helping me walk closer with the Lord for some time now. He baptized me four years ago. It's been amazing.

And watching him grow in the Lord is helping me grow in the Lord. It's great. But this is just incredible. The Lord talks to us in many ways. And today he talked to me, talked to all of us. Yeah. And, you know, so much of this show, guys, is to really abolish religion. And I baptized Carl in a hot tub.

That's right. You know, it wasn't done in any, you know. Your father's house. Yes. And it in a hot tub. That's right. It wasn't done in any... Your father's house. Yes. And it was a beautiful thing, and that's what we're doing here today five years later. We're still in each other's life. We're being used by the Lord everywhere we go,

out on the streets, and that's what it's about. It's not about a building. It's about being a light for the kingdom of God everywhere we go. And today, as soon as I stepped in the line to meet Wiesel, I knew that the Lord was going to do something. I was standing in the restaurant line with Carl, and we just started laughing. I said, I don't know what's going on, but we said the Lord's doing something today. Yeah. Nate and I have lunch often. Maybe we should have it more often. But I met Wiesel just two days

ago at church, and his friend Colm brought us together, and I wanted them to meet you. So that's how this all started today. And you were open to that, which was great. Yeah, and so we started talking and Wissam started sharing this beautiful testimony. And some of you guys know who watched the show, it's amazing because the Lord, I mean, in the Middle East, you're hearing more and more of these testimonies where Jesus himself is coming to the Muslim to the muslim world and to the middle east and people's dreams and envisions and you know we found out that we some like he had an encounter with with jesus many years ago and so we some just say hi to the audience and maybe just

feel free to just start um sharing do you think we should share the testimony that what happened today before or after he shares? Yeah, you tell me. So today I met my brother, Ned. This is my first time I met him. Carl, he introduced me to Ned. And Ned, he asked me a question. Can I listen to your testimony? I said, yes, I can tell you my testimony.

And I start telling him, I'm not Christian. I come from culture, the good culture, but we have different belief. But I grow up, I have three churches close to my home. I want to know about God, but I don't know how. I was living in Damascus and have small business baker. And some guys he show with his wife telling me about Jesus. He was customer. He buy my food from my restaurant.

And he telling me about good news. And he get me, he handle me the New Testament. And I was take the New Testament and just, okay, I heard about Jesus, but I don't know Jesus very well. But I would like to know Jesus. Second day, my mom, she called me and she asked me, she wanted to go to the mountain because my granddad, he's best. And I was sad for this news. And I decided to go to help my mom with her death situation. And I love my grandma.

And after we got over there, we don't find any books at the library. And my mom, she said, where's my dad's books? And her sister, she says, everyone take his book because he was a math teacher and he was riding the donkey to the school more than 10 kilometers every morning to teach people. That's the transportation he

have. And he was a good believer. Then I found book. I say, mom, I see there is book on the shelf. One book left. And my aunt, she say, no, that's not our book. That's a different book, different God belief. Then I say, we need it. It's from my grandma.

So it's the Bible? It's the Bible, yes. We opened the book, found like old Bible. And my grandma, he was writing message for the whole family. He said he believe in Jesus Christ, but he kept this in this book. He kept this secret in his book. Right, he kept it quiet.

Because the quiet, the culture, and his teacher. Because of all the persecution that would come against him. Yes. Tell us about what happened with your brother. I started to be happy because before, one day someone,

he got me the Bible in my business. Then my grandma, he died, and I have another Bible now. I have the whole testament. I start reading, found a lot of good information, a lot of important information, and start to read it at home, read it everywhere, read it at work. Then my brother, he heard about that, and he's been upset. And he told me, stop doing what you're doing.

You have to respect the culture, and that's not our way. That's not our belief and i say i cannot stop because i was feel something is you're on fire like there's something is is hub and i feel like i'm happy i have energy i'm excited i want to keep talk about jesus you cannot stop me talk about jesus and i'm only telling you today i'm going to the church in damascus as It's called Matthew. God knows there's been some amazing things that have happened on the road to Damascus.

That's right. And he said, if you go, I will kill you. He's his brother. I think he doesn't mean it. Yeah, your own brother said he was going to kill you. Mostly, he's threatening me. He's older than me, and he's always stronger than me. He can't beat me.

And I said, you're not going to kill me, because I like God. I left him, then I went to the church. always has stronger in me he can't beat me and i say you're not gonna kill me because i i like god i left him then i went to the church it was bible study on tuesday in 2011 in damascus and i was share my my story about my brother he tried to to say something make me uncomfortable to come to the church and my brother in the church he can put his hand on me, and he telling me, God, he will save you and save you from your family. He telling me a story about David when he was in dangerous, how God, he was saving him from the death. He just say, all you do, just to pray. If any time you be in dangerous, just back to God in a prayer. And that's what I've been doing it all my life. And then I back home after the church.

It was evening. It was winter time, I remember. And there was construction from my apartment where we live in the area. They put like a tube for, like a big tube. Like they've been digging

like a 12 foot. Like a hole. So I have to work very carefully to get to my home. Like they've been digging, like a 12-foot is like a hole. Yeah, a pit. So I have to work very carefully to get to my home. So I feel some hand from the back has hit me. And I don't remember. All I remember was I was full. 12 feet down.

Someone pushed you in a 12-foot hole. And I start to feel the death. I feel something wrong. I feel the accident. And I start to feel the death. I feel like, feel something wrong. I feel the accident. And I start to pray in my mind. I remember Jesus. I remember the guys he'd been telling me, anytime you be in dangerous, remember Jesus' name and you will. And then I feel the dirt on me. And then I went... His brother was pouring dirt over him. So he was trying to like bury you. Yes. Literally. Yes. Because he was... Alive, dead, he didn't know, but you were gone. Yeah.

He was meaning to kill me, I feel it. And then I went trips with Jesus and dream. And I feel like I don't want to come back. I feel it. Then someone woke me up. He said, no, you want to come back, telling people. You said you saw a light. I saw a bright light.

It's big. And I was inside this light. And something inside this light is like this. It's not like a human. It's not like women. But it's this. I saw this bright light and very quiet, like very, very, very deep voice telling me, I want to come back and telling my family about Jesus. And then when I opened my hand, when I opened my eye,

I look at my brother's face and he starts screaming and scared. And he ran away. Then I stand up. He thought you were dead. He thought you were dead. Then I stand up. I stand up. Then I went out from there. He thought you were dead. Yeah, he was. Then I stand up. I stand up. Then I went out from the, I was strong.

I was a big sucker. Then I jumped from the, but I was having bleeding in me. I feel like there's a bleed all over my body, my back. Then I went, I knocked the doors, and my family, my mom and my sister, they're just like screaming and scared, what's wrong with you? What's happening? It's like you're in a car wreck. You're a mess. Then I tell my mom, this is and scared, what's wrong with you? What's happening? It's like you're in a car wreck. You're a mess.

Then I tell my mom, this is the story, what happened with me. And she was upset from my brother. Then they take me to the hospital. And the police, they come to the hospital asking me if I want to swimming. My brother is saying, no, I'm not going to swimming. I want to forgive him. And then after the doctor, he was checking me. He said, I don't find anything broken in your in your skeleton

right wherever the wound was it was healed it was already healed where's the bleed come from the bleeding come from

your eyes from my air from my mouth and a lot and he said where's this come from how's this stuff

and there's nothing broken you get to go home you're washing me and I was back home I was saying hallelujah hallelujah and after that you had a car with Jesus he healed you nothing broken. You get to go home. You're watching me. Awesome. And I was back home. I was saying,

hallelujah. Hallelujah. And after that, you got a car with Jesus. He healed you. He saved you. Yes. And after that, you said that your, your brother, my, my brother, he, he, he, he went a long time. Was he in wrong way, but he back, he, he now believe in Jesus Christ. He now believes in Jesus. Yeah Yeah, after a bad experience, he's back to believe in Jesus. But at this time, my family, all my family, all my sister, all my big family, my family more than 2,000 people, like we have a big community, they became believers in Jesus Christ. And everyone, he has his experience. Everyone, he has his experience.

He was invested. That's right. And that testimony, I think you said you haven't really hardly shared with anybody in like 10 years, right? Yeah, I was scared to share my testimony because when I was leaving California, there was a channel called Al Hayat. It's a Christian channel. They offered for me to come share my testimony. But my ex-wife, she's not Christian, and she said, if you want to share your testimony, you want to put our endangers. And I'm not going to stay with you.

Well, it's an incredible story. And thank you for sharing. And, I mean, it really is like a real-life Joseph story. You were literally thrown in the hole by your own brother. You were saved. You had an encounter with Jesus. And now your whole family is giving their life to the Lord. Praise God. And after that, I want to serve Jesus Christ,

and I want to share my testimony every time for people, because that's the belief I have. And if I've been hiding my belief because I'm human, I can be wrong sometimes, but I believe. Well, I can tell by your heart that you have been hungry to share this, and Lord, I just thank you for using, you know, just our obedience today and just this man's heart to come on and share this testimony with the world, because many people are going to see this. Guys, share this. That's how this testimony, the goodness of God, Jesus is

alive. You know, we're having encounters with him all over the world. Share this, share this, because that's how people are going to see this testimony share the the link to the show and so um something else we're going to share really quickly because today there's another part of the testimony you said that basically he's had a severe neck injury uh fear of having to actually be in a wheelchair and um surgery necessary and all these things and i knew the lord was going to do something with you. It's always with specific intent. I did not feel like I was supposed to put my hand on you, so I had Carl. I said, Carl, will you put your hand on Sam's neck? And then Carl, explain what happened when I started praying for Sam. So I was sitting next to Sam, just like we're sitting here, and Nate was across

the table, and he said, Carl, put your hand on Wiesem. And I put my hand on his neck. And Nate was praying. And while he was praying, Wiesem didn't, like, move his neck or anything. I could literally feel his neck realigning. And it was just amazing. I've had, you know, fears of praying for people's health in the past because it's like I want it to work and what if it doesn't work and have all this stuff and Nate's been trying to encourage me and the Holy

Spirit shows us he showed it all I did was just trust and I felt it I'm a witness to a miracle yeah so how's your neck feel now just, seriously, like yesterday when I was with Collins, he told me, Sam, there's something wrong in your neck. It was a crack too much. Like every small move in my right side, I feel crack. It's like I feel like something is very wrong. Noise and hurt. So today when you put your hand on my brain, I was like, really, believe it.

I was, believe it. God, he's been healing me before I was like really believe it. I was believe it. God, he's been healing me before and he keeps healing me. I don't know why I'm sick. I don't know why I'm sick. And like I start to feel something crack without moving. Like to crack it, I have to move it. Then I was have a problem too. Like now I can't do that without crack.

Before, if I want to move it. Praise God. Thank you, Lord. Thank you for what you're doing today. And thank you for giving people a voice who have not been given a voice to use this platform. Lord, we just praise you, God. So thank you guys for coming on today. We're going to get Chris on here.

But bless you. Thank you so much. Awesome. Thank you so much. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

Well, hello, Chris Beck. Hello, Nate. How are you, sir? Great, brother. Great to be here. Yeah, thanks for coming on with us today. Thanks for having me. That was an awesome testimony, wasn't it?

Wow. Wow, what an encouragement. You just don't know what's going to happen each day. You never do, man. This is called kingdom life, guys. This is life in the kingdom of God. And this man knows all about the kingdom of God. And the night we met, it was all about the kingdom of God. It was such a God orchestrated, bless you guys. Thank you. Such a God orchestrated relationship, a God orchestrated encounter. And maybe even before we get into that, just tell

the audience a little about yourself. Well, i grew up outside of the city of richmond moved here in 1996 took a job with the almar county police department served for 20 years have a lovely wife uh six children god called me out of police work to start a ministry using horses to bring healing to hearts and share the love of Jesus. So that's it in a nutshell. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. I know there's a whole lot going on there, Chris. Yeah, there's a lot packed into that, but I'm thankful and blessed.

So it was maybe about, I don't even know when we met. What was it, like two years ago? Yeah, it's been about two years. Is that about right? Two years? Yeah. we met what was it like two years ago yes is that about right two years good yeah yeah so we being led by the spirit i have a feeling this show is going to be a lot about that as we we just saw we're meeting guys out on the streets and bringing them in and getting on the on the

on the tv the radio the podcast whatever you want to call it but uh the lord put it on my heart a couple years ago he said you're supposed to go to Rayfeen, Virginia, which I had never been to before. I don't even think I'd actually heard of Rayfeen. Do you know Rayfeen, Judah? I do not. Yeah, well, it's not. Even Judah hasn't heard of Rayfeen. It's not that far from here, but I'd never heard of it.

I think it was maybe about an hour and a half from my house. But he said, go to Rayfeen. I knew of this prayer house there. And I knew there was like an intercession or a prayer group. And so I just drove and just listened to the voice of the Holy Spirit had no idea why he was sending me down there and I came to this group and there was maybe seven or eight people there but immediately the Lord highlighted Chris to me and the Lord highlighted me to Chris yes and so I don't know if you want to talk about kind of what happened even like as soon as I walked into the room if you remember

that yeah so we come together every Thursday to intercede for the body, for our community, whatever God wants to do, where we need to be, where we need to be praying. And I remember I never met Nate, never seen Nate. I remember seeing this man come through the door, and he walked in, and the presence just fell on me. I began to prophesy over you, speak life. I remember it was beautiful. It was an encouragement.

I don't remember the exact words. When the presence is that deep and strong, I know it's specific. I just let him speak. So it was really God speaking to you. There was a specific purpose for that encounter and that meeting for our lives as we're sitting here today. But it was beautiful. And when that happens in my life, I know I'm to pay attention, that there's something special here. This is unique and different, set apart for a purpose.

And I knew that from that day, but we didn't know what that looked like, did we? We didn't know. Yeah, but it was a beautiful moment in the room but it was really just like an immediate connection with us like i look back and i know that like there was just something the lord was going to do in our lives together yeah and something else that was really interesting because i had a lot of resistance to go there that night and i mean i rarely get sick but i was feeling it going down the highway like in my in my, it was some kind of, and I mean, I was sick as a dog and you guys were prophesying over me and there was just power that was

flowing through me, but I was sick as a dog. So I guess the reason that I'm saying that is that like, whatever it is that we're going on, have going on in the natural, uh, it does not change who he is in us. It doesn't, it doesn't it doesn't the obedience and the faith to continue on to continue the drive there was a purpose behind that god was driving that with you to get you to that location right yeah so yeah so a beautiful way that we met and you know one of the things we were going to talk about today is god's timing and um you know that has been such a critical thing in my life even before i had my experience

where i was dramatically delivered if i can look back about um you know almost nine years ago now before our son was born we had years and years of infertility and that was before i knew the heart of god and it's like are you even real like are you letting us suffer like why don't us to have a baby? The things, the kind of questions that we ask when we don't really know his heart, when we don't really have a deep relationship with him, I was just a casual Christian. And so my wife ended up finally after five years of trying to have a child, she became pregnant. And so I don't even know if you know all this about yes he shared some i've shared not all details but um anyways when when we decided on the name for our son we we didn't have a real reason why we chose the name other than we liked the name and we named him kai roman and we decided we were going to nickname

cairo and i went to my mom and i was like told her the name she started crying and she said well do you know what that means i said said, I have no idea. She said, well, you have man's timing and you have God's timing, which is Kairos, which is that perfect supernatural timing of God. And I remember at that moment, like it hit me to my core that after all these years, all this thing, like it's not that he wanted us to suffer, but it happened on his timing, which was perfect timing. And he also, I believe, we believe that he truly named our son. Yes. And so we ended up having a, I wrote a book back in 2016 called A Quest for Kairos. And at the time we had started a foundation to help people who were going through infertility, the Kairos Fertility Foundation.

So God's timing has, even before I really knew him, he was teaching me about the importance of his timing. So share on that. Yeah, it's a critical point in our life when we encounter him at an adult age. Timing is so important. The same thing for me when I encountered him in person. I just had a powerful experience that changed my life. It wasn't necessarily a full-on deliverance, but I was in my police car on Route 29 in Ryle Hill Shopping Center.

Are you familiar with Ryle Hill Shopping Center? Oh, yeah. I was eating lunch. That's where ACAC is, right? Yeah. They just got a free plug. You're welcome. Yeah, amen.

Yeah, right? Yeah. And listening to the radio, eating lunch, and I got pulled into a vision. It was beautiful. It was this beautiful blue sky above me, and I was in a robe, and I was white, and I was pure. That wasn't where I was in my walk at the time. So were you a believer at that time then? I was pursuing God, but I was not ever taught about the Holy Spirit or the gifts of the Spirit. I was raised in a Baptist church. I was taught very well scripture, knew scripture well. I'd reached a point in my life where I was seeking more and I was hungry for more.

I was desperate. I was hurting. It was year 14 of my police career. And I'd hit a crossroads of life. And I was just seeking I was hurting. It was year 14 of my police career. And I'd hit a crossroads of life. And I was just seeking the Lord out. I needed some healing. I needed some deliverance. I needed him. He brings the healing and the deliverance. I couldn't do it in my own strength. And he pulled me into that vision. He showed me where I was going who i was then i came out of the vision what was that what just happened never experienced that like that he pulled me back in and i heard this voice

like thunder i've been waiting for you and i saw a cross and i saw jesus leaning on the cross and he had leaves going from one hand going up in in the air, and to his other hand. So he's got my attention, the voice, the thunder, the power, the love in that voice. And then he comes at me, comes straight at me, and he comes inside of me. He's inside of me. I'm wide awake in my police car, in uniform, And he begins to talk to me. And you know, you have that occasion. If you could ask Jesus any question, what question would you ask Jesus? You want to know what I asked him? Yes. I asked him, I says, my dad's saved. Wow. And he said,

he had already passed? No. Oh yeah. He's still alive alive. He said yes. I said, is my niece saved? He said yes. I don't know why that was the question in my heart. I can think there's probably a thousand other questions I could have asked Jesus, but that was a priority to my heart. That's who I was. I just didn't know that. Seeing people saved. Seeing people know Jesus. I began driving my car. I'm weeping. I'm driving down Route 29. Coming down from Ryle Hill Shopping Center.

Coming towards Charlottesville. And Jesus begins speaking. He says, the Father wants you to have the spiritual gift of healing. And I knew in that moment, I could say yes or no. It wasn't, this is yours. Boom moment I could say yes or no. It wasn't, this is yours, boom. I could say yes or no, and I said yes. So I'm driving, and I'm thinking it's done after that, right? I'm driving towards the county bus shop over near Alamoor High School. I get close to there, and he beats on my heart. He goes, I'm still here.

And I'm driving. It's like, Nate, it's like this supernatural experience. I don't even know how I'm driving. I'm out of time and space. I don't know how I'm driving. And then I drove over to the county office building, and he said this three times. He said, leave your job. He said, leave your job.

I said, leave my job. He said it again, leave your job. And his voice got firmer with each one. Leave your job. And then a little more happened. I don't want to share everything. So more things happened, and he said, I will return to you. Okay, I didn't want to leave my job.

So first, God, I just got to a place where I didn't have to work holidays or nights. Monday through Friday, I was behind a desk at the police department. And the natural seemed pretty good, huh? I was in a good place. I had just arrived there. You know, it's like I had set my plans, what I wanted to achieve in life, you know, get to the point in supervision. I enjoyed it, but, you know, there was some freedom in that. I could come and go as I pleased.

I had enough annual time. I had been there 14 years, and I built up time. You know, he's so patient with us. We talk about obedience. I thought I was being disobedient. I didn't know what to do. I couldn't even tell anybody this story I'm telling. I haven't shared this with many people.

It took me two weeks to share it with my wife. My wife was raised in the Catholic Church. I was raised Baptist. But I was very happy. I was having these experiences with God. I had this great joy that I had never had before. But you know what came out of that the most? How pure and lovely he truly is.

And that experience I had with him in that amount of time. And when I came out, how broken I was. How hurting I was. I didn't know. I didn't have anything to measure that to. You know, we think we're doing okay. We're providing for our family. We have a good job.

We have health benefits. So how long did you wait before you quit your job? Well. Because I don't know the answer. Sorry. Right. Well, I struggled with that issue for a while. And then finally.

So you didn't quit the next day? I did not. But here, this is where it goes. He showed me a vision. He opened the word of God up. And he said, Chris, it's time for you to learn and grow. So he gave me peace about leaving my job. Learn and grow. Okay, what is this?

A lot of it was deliverance. Inner healing for me. It sounds like he might not have been asking you to leave your job the next day. He was preparing me for the future. It came five years later when the call came. So that's what we're talking about with God's timing, right? Yes, it was five years later. And sometimes we get a prophetic word or we get a word directly from the Lord like that.

We think it's immediate. Well, yeah, we think it's going to happen on Tuesday. Right. Yeah, right. If it doesn't happen by Thursday, we're mad at God or or we think we heard it wrong. And I was so, so anxious about it. I know what I just experienced. What do I do with that? And I wasn't mature enough. He knew that though. He knew that I wasn't mature enough to make that decision. Would he have met me if I made that decision? Absolutely. But I wasn't ready. I knew nothing of the spiritual gifts. I began having all these experiences. And we can talk more about that. They were in my life sooner than that experience, but I didn't know what they were.

Right. Well, that's similar to me. I shared this on the show before that, you know, they used to call it my spidey sense because I knew things about people. I sent things on people, which I, I didn't know what was happening. I thought it was a curse and I ended up really finding out that it was a gift. It was discerning of spirits. And I know that you, I mean, you are, you know, we can talk about some of your giftings cause I've seen you in action many times and powerful man of God and your gifts are very important to the body of Christ. But, you know, it sounds like you've told me that you started experiencing things as a young child. I did. But you really didn't know how to steward them.

So maybe you can talk about some of the things that you experienced and what that looked like we can help, you know, some of these parents or young people. Yeah, with their children. Yeah, so they're experiencing this with their children. And that's so important. So as a young boy, I remember i was very sensitive to things around me like discerning those things what was happening i was very active it caused me to be very active almost hyperactive i'm sure if they could have labeled that back in the 70s they would have labeled that something getting your age now yeah yeah right aging myself. They would have labeled that. But I was very active because I didn't know necessarily what was happening, but it wasn't wrong.

I was just very intuitive, very active. I experienced visions and dreams. I remember my mom telling me that they were concerned, and I would act out my dreams. I would walk around the house. It concerned them. They were afraid I might leave the house, you know, things like that. And I know what I was experiencing. I can recall it was God things and it was things of the devil, spiritual things. I remember those very vividly. I remember one dream I'll share as a little boy. I was afraid to go to bed at night. I was afraid to go to bed because things happened in my sleep spiritually that I

had no framework to understand. And you had nobody to help you. Nobody to help me, to teach me, even to share it. But I had a dream a giant was chasing me in the spirit and I was running from this giant he was huge and he was chasing me and I'm running and I'm scared and then I cross this like river or creek and there's a home there and when I cross over this river I find peace a sanctuary and that giant had to stop at the edge of that river I'll never forget that as long as i was probably eight years old but god was giving me peace in that moment of what i was experiencing at night and the things um but as a boy i didn't have anybody to relate to the other kids weren't experienced i didn't hear conversations about that so i i kind of just squashed i said this is this is different i'm different than everybody else the things God was revealing to me.

Not an easy thing to tell people. Not. You know, most boys were playing sports, active in other things. And I did those things, but I was experiencing other things I didn't know what to do with. Or even, I was afraid to even share. Yeah. You know. And you were seen in the Spirit at a very young age too, right?

Yeah, at a very young age. Having vision. I remember sitting on my parents' bed one time and just an open vision of a train going through a tunnel. And the tunnel got very dark and then it lit up. It got through the tunnel and it was light outside. So that almost simulates your journey. You know, you're going to go through a dark time, but then you're going to come out into the light. You'll see with more clarity in life. You know know he's giving me things i don't know what

to do i didn't understand that at the time but i but when i can look back i have an understanding of what i was experiencing but so was there ever a time in your life then i know the gifts weren't taken away was there a time where they ever felt to be dormant or were you always just kind of not really knowing it was a gift? The discernment never left me. I always had an intuition about things happening around me or with people. So that never left me, but I never acted upon it or never spoke out about it. And the enemy comes after your gifting at an early age.

He wanted to silence me. He didn't want me to speak. Steal your imagination. speak out what your experience to be quiet that's been my battle is intimidating be quiet don't use your voice my voice speaks life or death i choose life i choose what god reveals and there's power in that so the enemy wants to steal your power that god's put in you to speak out what you see or understand or it's the enemy wants to steal your power that God's put in you to speak out what you see or understand. It's the revelation of God. It's not mine.

It's God, what he gives to me to reveal. It's the revelation of God. God wants to silence the prophets. You know, you think about the parents that have kids that are hyperactive or they're sensitive to things in the spirit or your kids are having dreams or experiences. To foster that that i want to

encourage parents families exactly what i was about to ask you to foster that gifting in your children talk to them about it invite the holy spirit into the equation if you don't know to teach you how to interact with your children to not shut them down or silence them they have to go through a phase of learning and growing and feel safe and i know we've talked about that i foster that in my children i know you've talked about that fostering that and we have authority over our children yeah we have a responsibility what i always tell people i just mean this if like the kid your child comes to you and says there's a boogeyman in the closet you don't tell them that the boogeyman's not real you got to teach them

how to cast the boogeyman out of the closet that's it but most parents don't know what that looks they don't know what that is they think we haven't been taught that in the church these are the things this is a supernatural world it's around us it's not going anywhere and we you know the veil has to be lifted right yeah yeah you're talking it's just your imagination boogeyman is not real and that's kind of what I was kind of experiencing. That's what people say. Oh, that's not real. It's very real. Our warfare is very real.

Spiritual warfare is very real. It's very important. Intercession, as you know, is very important. Yeah, talk about intercession because you're a high-level intercessor. Most of us, we really, it was funny. We were on the way over here, and I was talking to Carl. And he said, Nate, why do people feel like they have to when they're praying over someone? Because we had just seen that miracle with Wiesel.

I mean, amazing testimony, right? And it's like everything Jesus did was with specific intent. I know that I could have put my hands on that man. But the Lord said, tell Carl to put his hand on his neck. And he got to feel the miracle actually take place. And I believe that's going to be powerful for him. But he saw how, in a sense, easily it happened because that was not hard for God. But we like to have these 15-minute prayer messages and have everybody in the church praying and doing all these things.

When it can be very simple. So he said, Nate, why, why do we always make our prayers so difficult? And I just said, you know, I are so long. He said, so long. And I was like, you know what? I'd rather be able to pray for 10 people in the time that I can pray for one. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But we, we make it so hard. We don't really know how to pray is what I'm getting at. That's not me being mean. It's just experiencing it. And like, we don't really know how to pray is what i'm getting at that's not me being mean it's just experiencing it and like we're not really taught how to to pray and not that we make a method or it has to look a certain way but it's not about like um how long we're praying or even necessarily exactly what we're saying or any of those things right yes yeah so talk about the importance of intercession and what intercession looks like in your life.

Well, so, you know, the growth in intercession is our yielding and dying to self, our growth. So he's revealing things and not me, not speaking over you, or even adding any mixture or advice to what I share with you. Because, you know, if you ask me a question, well, what's the Lord say? And I'll give you revelation from my heart. It's so important to grow into that. We have to die and yield, have things chipped away in our life. Be delivered of the things

that hinder us from closeness to God as God's revelation working through us and to others. There's so much freedom in that, but it takes time to get there. We have to overcome our insecurities, our fears, step into things that are foreign to us that he wants to teach us with spiritual warfare.

I don't want to give people advice. I don't want the long prayers. I don't want the advice if there's a need to pray. God will give revelation or bring a word of encouragement, whatever it is. Think of Jerry, just bringing a word of encouragement, whatever it is. Think of Jerry, you know, just bringing a word. But being available to hear from God is so important. You have, operating in your gifts, you heard from God how that scenario was supposed to go. It was for Carl to experience something beautiful and lovely,

an encouragement for him to continue on his path i mean i could see the glow on him the excitement on carl when he was in here you something transformed not just in him but you know and sim as well something beautiful happened there they're going to carry that and grow from that and learn from that mature you know the whole point of the gifts is to mature us into the likeness of christ moving from glory to glory and the maturity because some people you would have you could have just stepped right into that you know god moves through you and what you allow it um what what a gift for carl today the lord's always teaching and it's always for bigger

picture yeah and how he used that testimony and what happened because i think he didn't even start sharing the testimony about you know what happened when his brother threw him in the hole until after god had already healed him yeah and so like he had a miracle and then he started sharing about how you know all these years ago he met jesus yeah and then he gets to share it where it's been dormant for 10 years and and you know it's beautiful and that that was preparing him to receive the miracle. He had the faith to know that God would heal him. He was able to receive that miracle through that first miracle. It was dormant, but he had the faith to know he had been set free.

And sharing that testimony today is an encouragement to people to have the faith to receive their healing, what they're seeking from the Lord right now. That's why a testimony is so important. It's not theology. It's what we experience with God. Nobody can take it away. You can't.

You can't take it away. You can tell us we're crazy. You can tell us we're hallucinating or whatever, but you can't take it away. You cannot take it away. And that's where we need to walk from and being yielded in that. That's what I want. I want the closeness of God.

That's what I, after that experience in the police car, that's all I've wanted. That's all I've sought after all these years, to die to the secular world that became very much a part of my life. I conformed to the world, and now he's transforming my life into his image. Without tasting that, I didn't have any direction. I didn't know where to go. Where do we go? So I encourage people to experience that just to be touched one time by the Lord. Then you know, then you know where you're going. He's, he's the light. He's the word. He's the lamp to our feet, our path. If we don't know the path, we need to just have that touch,

get that touch. He's alive. He sees us. He loves us. He doesn't want us sick or in pain. We have destiny. We have purpose. He wants to work through us. I've probably shared this on the show today, but when I was delivered, he set me free. I knew that he loved me. He showed me that he loved me. But the next thing he told me, he said, Nathan, you're going to do this too.

He's going to put us to work, and he wants us to go out and be a light for the world. Give people an encounter with him. Amen. He's going to put us to work, and he wants us to go out and be a light for the world. Yeah. Give people an encounter with him. And you see, I mean, these stories, you hear about these stories happening in the Middle East, and I know that they are meant to be shared. Yes. And you're such a light. I think I spoke over you charisma, but not in the sense of the world's charisma. Yeah, share that, because I learned something when you told me that. Tell us about what charisma really is. Charisma really means, you know, the Hebrew-Greek meaning is the favor of God,

divine favor of God on your life. It's through, you know, you have a calling, and God wants to develop character, and then the favor of God comes upon you. As you work those things out, sometimes we want to skip over the character thing. You stepped into a calling and a lot of people just want to walk in the gifts and not really deal with their heart. And that's very dangerous. And you have the character and I see charisma all over. You're an encouragement to me when you share testimonies or when you speak to me, you speak life into me. You bring me to a place of faith and boldness that I need to have as we sharpen one another. You can't be me and I can't be you.

You be you, I be me, and we work together. It's beautiful. It's a great example because not all of our giftings are the same. He puts guys like you, very strong and and prophetic seen in the spirit and guys like me that move more and and healing deliverance that kind of thing and it's amazing when you put that together how powerful that is and you were speaking that when we first met you said you felt like god was drawing you in to circles where more people are able to speak over your life that that was new for you because you kind of operated in one way,

and God wanted to take you into something new. So I knew it was a new experience for you, but for me as well, to step into that while someone is active, engaged, out and about is beautiful. Because a lot of my intercessory prayer, we were there, we were praying out, covering. So powerful. We need covering. There's no recognition. Can you explain that then yeah like covering what you know when you're really interceding for people like why are you doing it prayers move things uh hearing the will of god praying it out going into places where he gives authority for us to move in that's so important

recognizing that as it's about territory. It's about bringing the light into the territory. That God wants to take back. The enemy sets up its high places. We know that. The enemy didn't go away. Because Jesus came. He still sets up high places.

But we know we have the victory. We can overcome. So tearing down strongholds is so important. And then God can move his people into that territory that we need to take back for the kingdom. It's such a lot of training. It just doesn't come over. I mean, we're talking years of training. We're summarizing it into a little time.

But for you to go out, for you, we can share about this show, to have intercession over the show, over each guest that comes on the show. You have people covering you, praying into each show. And it's unique and different each time. It took me some time in the last couple years even. I've started to understand the importance. Maybe I can explain this in a simple way because I feel like so many times we wait for something to happen and then we ask for prayer but we should be having prayer to prevent it from happening so that you're not you know not going to just get a direct shot in your back but

you're literally building a wall around you in the spirit than anything trying to come after you they got to get through that wall yeah to even come near you yes to be on the offense and not the defense to be in front with god we we are not the tail we are the head he doesn. Yes, to be on the offense and not the defense, to be in front with God. We are not the tail. We are the head. He doesn't want us to be the tail. We need to recognize we are the head. We need to be out front.

We need to be. We should not be running. No, we're taking ground. Intercession is taking ground. God, where are you moving? Where are you working, God? Where can we go? Where do you want to go?

I don't know. I have to seek him. Where do you want us to go? And that intercessory team is powerful. It's unique. Prophetic people get involved, ask the Lord where you're to go. Sometimes it requires change from the old to the new. Timing, Change from the old to be okay moving into new circles. Our tendency is to get comfortable in what we know. And yes, your gifts are maybe operating, but God's opening a new door for you to step in to enter another circle. I've entered many circles over the years,

and he's bringing me full force. I never lose the people that he wants me to be connected to from the first circle. I can move to the next circle, the next circle of people that he wants me to be connected to from the first circle. I can move to the next circle, the next circle of people. It grows me. It changes me. I have something to give and I have something to receive from each circle of friends God takes me into. I'm in your circle now in your life. Right.

Right? I didn't know you two years ago. Never met, never crossed paths. It's beautiful. I'm growing. We're experiencing God in a beautiful way. But I want to encourage people to be okay with change. Don't let an anchor set on your feet. Don't let the enemy, the enemy wants to put an imaginary wall. Imagine a wall there. He doesn't want you to come through. It's not his wall. He's not preventing you to move

through that wall and see what's on the other side. Taste and see what he has, and you will see that it's good as he leads. Can you give us an example of intercessory prayer where something shifted, something changed, something that you know was prevented through intercessory prayer. Well, let's talk about taking down a stronghold, talking about preventing things from continuing, things from happening. So this is a cool story. This is probably the most challenging story.

This was pre-COVID, probably 2018. I was in an intercessory group, amazing people, God's senior to me, mature, encouraging to me, very open to me, seeing in the spirit and sharing. Well, they called me one night and said, hey, I've got a friend up in northern Virginia, and I need you, would you be willing to come with us? They're experiencing all kinds of demonic activity. She owns like two or three farms. Will you come with us?

She needs help. And I said, Lord? He said, yes. Next day, we go. We're driving. It's an hour away. And on the way up, the Lord says, don't back down.

Like, well, I was a police officer you know i'm like i'm used to going into crisis yeah i'm used to going into things that are not good so that doesn't bother me this was different and unique he said don't back down i'll make this a short story it's but it's powerful as you talk about change bringing change to our community we get up to this farm it's a huge farm. We're walking around and, you know, interceding, dealing with some low-level things, nothing that I hadn't experienced before. There was an apartment there. These people had just been fired from the farm. They worked for the farm, and there's two ladies in there cleaning, and I remember I walked up

these steps to the door, and I just walked from light into the lair of the devil. I started coughing. I said, excuse me, let me go back outside. I wasn't expecting that. Go back outside? I tell my friends, I said, we got to go back in there. There's something deep and sinister

in this apartment. I said, all right, let's go in. So we go in. I go in. The spirit immediately comes and challenges me and goes, who are you? I go, I come in the name of Jesus. I say that in my spirit. And then it's on.

The darkness, we're praying. I'm praying in the spirit. And the key to this type of warfare is getting the power. This was a dark power to manifest they want to stay hidden right they do not want to the the lower level things they manifest all day long we can deal with those staying in the battle all i want to do is if i can get it to manifest bring it into the light we've got victory it doesn't want to things are all over the place yeah i'm just going to interject really quickly.

Pastors, I hear people say, well, there's not any demons in our church. And I say, if you think there's not any demons in your church, that's because there's not any power flowing. And those things are real comfortable right where they are. And they have not been exposed. And they're not coming out. You've got to call everything into the light. So we're praying. I'll speed this up.

It manifests. it's this dark power they had established an altar there a high place it was like dark lava and had like fire coming inside his eyes and i said it's i'm telling the guy that's manifested let's join hands i didn't have enough power to overcome it we joined hands presence of god fell. The tongues fell. We took this altar down. We tore it down. God came in. I saw angels come in and new soil come into the place. It was an opening.

It was a porter. You know what God told me? This was a strategic location. The enemy had created the stronghold here for the valley. It was at the top of the valley, New Market. It was at the top of the valley, New Market. It was at the top of the valley coming in. We needed to take it back and establish God's kingdom in that location. The power was so strong.

I remember one of the ladies that was just watching, she said, can I join you? I said, yes. So she held my hand. She asked for a prayer. And the next thing you know, she just falls down. That's what we needed, the presence of God to come through. She was seeing God and she wanted to see what that was.

It was good for her, but it's allowing God to work. God needed to do a work that was a stronghold. If you're not aware of that in your church, if you don't have an intercessory team, you need to be aware of that. It's very

common. You think you could give some, because that's probably what you experienced. Of course, we have dominion and authority, but you know that, and you have experience with that. So that might be an awesome testimony, but maybe something a lot of people wouldn't feel necessarily comfortable with doing themselves. I don't know if maybe you can just talk about maybe some basic things on, let's call it, warfare. Oh, boy, yeah. Well, you know, on a level of just daily things, you know, the enemy's all around us. It's in our environment.

Do we truly want to see it or not, right? Do we want to open our eyes be aware of it and and warfare is is it can be through a prophetic word of what someone's experiencing seeing something happening with someone having the boldness just to speak something over somebody right some of my greatest deliverances came from prophetic people that were willing to say what they saw happening to me that's at at the relational level, you and I. If I can't do that with you, I don't love you. If God's revealing something to me, I don't love you. I do love you, but I'm not loving you.

You're saying if you reveal something, you don't bring it forth. Some of my greatest transformations came from three prophetic women at different times speaking what they saw. I could tell they were uncomfortable releasing it, but I praise God for them. I lift them up every day because they released it. They had the boldness and courage, and it wasn't anything crazy. Saying the tough things. Yes. It's so important.

Many times the important things are the tough things. Yes. And our greatest growth comes from that. I experienced that. And experiencing that, I want to share that as well. God does it in such a gentle, kind way. It's not me going, you got a devil on you and it's coming out. God does it in such a subtle way.

He doesn't want to bring embarrassment or shame to anyone. That's right. And so we have to have the maturity to say, hey, can I talk to you maybe with another person or one-on-one? Not in a group setting. You might see something on someone. You sit in a group. Things reveal themselves. When light and darkness intermingle, well, the darkness is going to manifest.

It has no choice. If you sit there long enough in a group, for me to have the courage to say, I see this happening, but not in front of the whole group. You should not have to embarrass someone for me to have the courage to say, I see this happening, but not in front of the whole group. You should not have to embarrass someone for them to be set free of oppression or torment or darkness. That's it. That's exactly it. And in most people, like, I think this is important. We weren't planning to talk about this, but this is important because most people who have a devil don't even realize it. They don't. And if you're saying, God, you come out right now, devil.

People get scared. Yes. You don't have to do that. And God does it in such a way. It's teaching. Helping them, empower them to overcome things. And you know,

because a lot of people don't know, they become familiar in their life and they know they're battling something. It could be like, oh, I'm fearful or I'm insecure about this or that. So we need to walk them through it and empower them. Typically, if I'm praying for somebody and I already discern that they have something going on,

I'll speak to the unclean spirit without that person even knowing what's happening. And I'm like, infirmity, spirit of fear, whatever. Like you come out now in the name of Jesus. And most people don't even know what you're doing. They don't even know what's happening. But if you say, you get out. I mean that that's weird for a lot of people right yeah it's not it's not the likeness of christ and a lot of times we don't have to stand up and puff ourselves up and make us look gail and hooten holler really don't have to get in wrestling matches with no with

unclean spirit yeah so much can happen like you're saying and and the spirit just speaking it out i've encountered things where i've had to tell spirits to sit down. Sit down. You're trying to control the discussion. You're trying to control the prayer time. It's okay. You speak it in your heart, and I see the authority. I see it happen.

So that builds my faith. I have the authority to do that. I'm not embarrassing the person. It's not calling attention, and it's not taking away from what God wants to do in the intercession because that's valuable. So, so I think we have maybe about 10 minutes. Oh, wow. The time's flying. It always goes by fast. Um, I know that we wanted to talk some on obedience, right? You still have some things on your heart to talk about obedience. I don't want to call you out. Um, no, I mean, obedience is, faith comes first. Faith, trusting, and then whatever the calling is. So God.

Well, we've had some interesting conversations in the last week. This is just real talk about like, you know, even in my life about, you know, about the Kenya trip. And I felt like I got a very clear sign from the Lord that I was supposed to go to Kenya. I could not find peace about it. Even somebody in my life, you felt like that I was probably supposed to go, but I just couldn't get there. I couldn't find peace on the trip,

but I didn't want to be disobedient to God. But I couldn't get there. And so it ends up turning out the entire trip got canceled. Oh, wow. Yeah, I didn't even tell you that. I didn't know that yet. So the whole trip got canceled. Oh, wow. Yeah, I didn't even tell you that. I didn't know that yet. So the whole trip got canceled, so nobody's going.

So we can probably talk about that more off the air. But it's just interesting because, anyway, just talk about the. Well, I want to talk about that. Yeah, go ahead. You know what I saw in that? What's that? I saw your, you gave a word at the beginning of the year at Bridge of the Gap. And you know what I saw in that experience with you and this manifested in your life?

Humility. You said some things to me and you were so humble about it. There's humility in you. And that was the word you gave at Bridge of the Gap. Humility. That's the word for this year. We have to walk in that. And I saw that just now as we were talking.

And we didn't know the whole trip was going to be canceled. But something transformed and changed. You made a decision there. It was so much humility in that decision. Yeah, I mean, the Lord knows our hearts. He knows my heart. And, you know, we're all, it's always a red flag to me. If we think we never miss it, we're all learning to hear the voice of this invisible God to have this intimate relationship

with this invisible God. And, um, you know, it takes time. And like we were talking about through obedience or disobedience, God is always teaching and the things that we can learn through these decisions that we can learn through these decisions that we make, even if they're the wrong decisions, right? That's right. That's right. We're always growing. He never abandons us and are using us or being close to us. That's not, that's not his word. That's not his promises. And sometimes, you know, he's so good and he loves us so much. And, you know, it seems like there are times, and you even talked about this as well, he could be calling us to do something,

and for whatever reason, we just can't get there. That's right. We can't align with it in our own hearts. And he releases us from it, right? He does. I've had a similar experience. I was supposed to go to a training. The Holy Spirit said, I want you to go to this training.

It's for a whole weekend. It's down in Charlotte. And I knew I was to go. I reserved a ticket. And this wasn't a cheap trip. I reserved a ticket. I said, all right, I have the money for the ticket. But I didn't have the money for the trip.

So it's getting closer and closer. And I'm like, Lord, where's the money for this trip? It's going to be hotel, gas, food. We don't have it. We walk in faith. Our family walks in faith. He provides. So I'm thinking any moment now, right, the money's going to come in.

And it got closer and closer. No money. And I'm just fretting about this. Like, Lord, this is hurting me. There's no money. What am I going to do? You know, we just go back and forth. Am I going or not?

Do I have enough faith to believe that I get there, you're going to provide the money? I wasn't there yet. I wasn't there yet. And I said, okay, God, I can't, I'm threatened. And finally the Holy Spirit comes over and says, you're released from going. But I'm spending all that. He's bringing things up to the surface in my life that he wants to deal with. And I want to deal with it too. I got to get free in that to have the faith that, yeah, maybe, maybe next time he does that, I can say, I'll meet you there, Lord.

Sometimes these things will teach us that we're not as far along as we think we are many times. That's right. We think we've arrived, right? Yeah. Finances are a big one in my life. You've prayed over me. You've encouraged me in that area. Even though I've been walking in faith, it's still hard.

It doesn't mean it gets easier. Some things take longer to work out in our hearts than others. Some of us have other strongholds that are greater in our life than others. Some have a lot of freedom in that. I want to be there. I would like to be free of that at some point. I'd love to sit here and tell you I'm there today. I'm not. That's

why I have friends to encourage me. We're not supposed to do it alone. No, not at all. It's beautiful that we have real conversations conversations like our conversation we have very intimate conversations it gets to the heart of the matter it really does each time and that's so valuable to have that in your life and you know what like even today what you know not that i don't know these things but he shows us it's like i felt like in some ways i was being disobedient by not going on the trip.

You know that I struggled with that, right? Which I don't ever want to feel like I'm letting him down or go against what he's calling me to do because so much of my walk has been based on obedience, listening to his voice and stepping out, like going to Ray Fiend, doing the crazy things that don't make sense, but God's showing up and the miracles and these beautiful things happen. But it's like, okay, I'm supposed to be on a plane right now to go to kenya thinking that maybe god's upset with me right and then i sit

there he can take all things and turn it for good i'm sitting there at the restaurant and this man's neck who's been in pain for many years five years talking about surgery and wheelchairs, gets instantly healed, comes on the show, shares this amazing testimony to glorify God. And guess what? What I'm trying to say is like, we don't want to be disobedient, but gosh, he has so much grace. He's going to give us another chance. Yes, indeed. Oh, that's so beautiful. It's encouraging. So I know that you have, is there anything else on your heart i know that you have something specifically that you want to share but was there anything else on your heart before you share that you'd like no i think i need to share this yeah and release this word and this is this is for the body of christ um and he said it would come at the end we're we're at the how much time yeah we're at

the end and i haven't addressed the audience too much. I've been in the moment today. But bless you guys. Thank you for watching. Like, comment, tell us where you're watching from. Share the show, guys. That's how it's getting reached to the masses. People are watching this around the world really because people are sharing it.

So please share the show. And we thank you all for watching. Yeah. All right. So this is for the body of Christ. It deals with times and seasons. The season we're in right now, and we've been in that. We've been seeking, where are we, God?

What is this resistance we're experiencing? So part of this word came at multiple times, but I'm going to get into it. This is from the Lord. The body of Christ, those who love God, are transitioning into a greater move of God. We are in the transition now. There's lots of turbulence, lots of pressure pushing us through. The Lord's pushing us through. We're leaving the old into the new.

In this new space, in this move of God, there will be rest, provision, and planning. And then, Nate, when you call me and ask me, or texted me and asked, would you come on the show this week, last week, I took it to the Lord. He gave me three quick visions, short, just short, just confirmation to come on, but it's for the body of Christ. When I get to Trinity in a vision or a dream, I know it's a word for the body of Christ, so I knew I needed to release it. So the first image, he said the word hatchery. It's a hatchery. And then he showed me eggs, lots of eggs lined up in an incubator.

They're going through incubation. They crack and they hatch. And the chicks were bright yellow. So I'll come back to the interpretation of each one. The second vision, I was taken up into the clouds with an angel. And from the clouds, I could look down and see the whole earth. Then all of a sudden, I saw these bright lights light up in these homes that were dark. The lights were so bright in each home.

That was the second vision. The third vision, I saw a lady standing in front of me. She was nicely dressed in clothes, and the Lord told her to dance. Well, when she started to dance, she just started to move. I saw ice began to break off of her entire body, off her skin, off her clothes. It just broke off as she began to dance and fell to the ground. So I want to give the interpretation. So we have the Joseph story, and now we have the Joseph gifting. Yeah. Right?

Amen. Praise God. He knows what he's doing. Yes, sir. So the interpretation of the hatchery, the eggs, and incubation. This is what the Lord said. The yellow chicks represent uniqueness, brightness, something new.

These are people I've kept hidden for a time, but I'm now revealing them and assigning them to their posts. I'm teaching them how to use their gifts and their new position. So this is those, he's awakening, they're walking in a greater closeness with God. I want to read the scripture

because I want to honor God. The anointing will teach us. So sometimes we get a word and we act on it or we give a word with God. In our walk right now for these people, the anointing will teach you. You're walking it out. It's synchronized with God. Like today, there's a synchronization with you and Carl. So we're walking this out

first john 2 27 but the anointing which you have received from him abides in you and you do not need that anyone teach you but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things and is true and is not a lie and just as it has taught you you you will abide in him. This is abiding. This is a new walk for a lot of people. He showed me that in another vision. I don't want to get into that, but a synchronization working together is beautiful. So the second vision taken up into the clouds with the angel seeing the lights turn on.

The Lord said, I'm restoring households. Their lights will shine brighter than ever I've positioned my families to be strong and mighty in their communities they will be beacons of light to many who are seeking me out be ready families that's beautiful he's been working on my family for this past year restoring us to be stronger to be. It's beautiful. I'm so thankful I've been seeking that. So much power in it. It is. And you're really united in your home.

Oh, it's beautiful. Your spouse with your children. My marriage, everything. That's why the enemy tries to destroy it. Yeah. There's so much power in it. We don't even really realize it, but he does. He does.

It's valuable to him. And the third vision, the lady standing in front of me, and the Lord told her to dance, and the ice broke off. Yeah, that's cool. The old has fallen off. Your walk will be lighter. My hands have closed the doors to your past. The new will be embraced with vigor.

Mighty warriors of God, challenges you used to face in the past will be no more. As you face them now, you will recognize the transformation you have come through and the power and authority you walk in for this new assignment. So vigor, he highlighted vigor. That's good health. That's physical strength. That's energy and enthusiasm. We need to walk with that vigor. We don't walk as weakened vessels. I don't want to walk into things as a weakened. So we're in a new place. We're strong. We're vitality. It's powerful because we're the light. Arise and shine. Let your light shine. People, I respond to your light. You respond to my light. People need to see something different. This is God's birthing people into new positions, new assignments. I want to encourage you to step into these new things God has for you. He's with you and He's going to teach you. It might be uncomfortable, but the anointing

will teach you. That's His promise. So be comfortable with that where you are. I think that's speaking to our friend. Mr. Jerry. The anointing, God will teach you. It might appear challenging.

That's where we're at. Hope you're listening, Jerry. Times and seasons. It might appear challenging. Yeah, so that's where we're at. Hope you're listening, Jerry. Times and seasons. It's so important to have people around in your circles that can speak into that and growing that. I'm growing in that. I can't sit here and say I figured it all out, but I'm trusting what God's teaching me and releasing to me in this new hour. So we're in a new day. We're in a new day. We're in a new day.

God said the transition is now. It's not tomorrow. We are breaking through now. Amen. So. Anything else? That's it. Thank you for sharing that.

That's awesome. Love those visions. Yes. Gifted. Awesome. You know, Chris, you've obviously, dear and, uh, somebody that, uh, the Lord has put in my life with very specific intent and I'm, I'm grateful for you and thank you for coming on the show and sharing beautiful. And, uh, so yeah, so guys, we're going to go on to next week. We are

going to have Jonathan Brenneman is going to be on the show. He is going to be coming on from Brazil. Amazing man of God. Judah, was he supposed to be on today? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, anyways, so he just wrote an awesome book. It's called The Mechanics of Miracles. So I'm just going to go ahead and give a plug in for that.

But Jonathan is awesome. We're excited to have him. But bless you guys. Thank you for watching and being with us on the show today. I speak life and love and healing over your bodies in the name of Jesus. And bless you, and we'll see you next week. Amen. Bye-bye.

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