The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Could A White Man Have Said What Don Gathers Said?; Spanberger Clogs Legal Weed Pipeline With Veto

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the water cooler of content conversation. It's a Wednesday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. We are in the heartbeat of Charlottesville, Albarra County, and Central Virginia. We're in the eye of the storm. I'm less than two miles from the John Paul Jones Arena, right next to the courthouses of Charlottesville, Nalmore County, a hop-skip at a jump away from the police station and a block away from the downtown mall. This show covers all topics, whether pleasant or on.

uncomfortable. It's the water cooler of content and conversation, where we welcome you, the viewer, and listener to shape the show and offer talking points and content matter that you find compelling, provocative, or thought-provoking. Share it with us. We will vet it. Once we vet it and meets our approval, we'll talk about it on the show. Yesterday, we discussed Don Gathers, one of the most influential activists in Charlottesville, Virginia history. One time he was running for Charlottesville City Council before heart problems, heart concerns, health concerns, took him off a prospective ticket. He would have won a seat on council.

I played a three-minute, I played his comments during a Monday night City Council meeting. It was a three minutes in change that he spoke before counsel, where he called the mayor Juan Diego Wade, basically in Uncle Tom. He called Natalie Oshran, the vice mayor, the love child of Margaret Thurie. Thatcher and Nancy Reagan. And Nancy Reagan. Thank you to Wickhauer. And he called Lloyd Snook

Charlottesville's version of Rudy Giuliani, while then converting Snook's last name into a verb called snookering. I will forever use the word snookering now, thanks to Snookering the people of Seville. Snookering the people of Seville. He's exactly right. I'm going to ask you guys

an uncomfortable question. And this is a conversation I'm having via email with a very influential person that I trust. He has not given me the approval that I can utilize his name and his thoughts on the show associated with his name. So I may read his thoughts without his name associated with it. But this is a person I respect. I trust a man of clout and influence locally. This viewer and listener of clout and influence locally believes that if a white man had used Don Gathers' script, Don was

reading from a piece of paper thoughts that he had prepared in advance that if a white man was was using don gathers his script that white man would have had his microphone turned off and would have not been able to continue speaking to counsel i'm inclined to agree uh uh with that notion um but this viewer and listener as is has said that if a white man was using don gathers his script that he still would have been able to continue. I want to be very clear here. I won't utilize his name, but this person says that a white man would have been able to continue with Don Gathers' script. I'm of the impression that absolutely not a white male would not have been able to say what Don Gathers said to Charlottesville City Council. I want to unpack that topic on today's show.

I want to talk on today's show. Governor Abigail Spamberger clogging up retail weed as if it was dirty, nasty resin in a side car or on the stem of an 18-inch Jerome Baker with double bubbles. Spamberger has absolutely, absolutely ashed retail weed. And today we have Scuma Boutique dispensaries owner, David Tricorici, a friend of the program, a partner of the program, offering his thoughts on what Abigail Spamberger has done. We will relay them live on air today. on the water cooler of content and conversation, the I Love Seville Show. We're going to talk a seven-story, 100-unit apartment tower of the luxury variety coming to the Rose Hill neighborhood, potentially. It's not just Fifeville that's going to gentrify rapidly with marginalized community members about to get taxed or pushed out of the neighborhoods that they have called home for so long.

It's going to happen to West Haven. It's going to happen to Rose Hill. It's going to happen to Teth and Page. Giddy up and get ready. Rose Hill is next. We're going to talk Jim Ryan on this program. He offered his thoughts to legacy media on what he's doing on his paid sabbatical. Jim Ryan, the former president at the University of Virginia,

earning hundreds of thousands of dollars to not work. Yes, hundreds of thousands of dollars to basically live a life of leisure is kiteboarding. He's surfing. He's skiing while collecting hundreds of thousands of years. of thousands of dollars on the backs of Virginia taxpayers. We'll talk about that on today's program. I'll talk, speaking of the University of Virginia, a vice president at UVA, denigrating, ripping, mocking, throwing shade at the school's founder Thomas Jefferson during, believe it or not, graduation and final exercise ceremonies. All those topics and more on a show that is

unaffiliated, unafraid, unabashed, and unfiltered with its commentary and analysis. Remember tomorrow, Matt Green from the Salvation Army Board of Directors. We'll join us in studio to talk about what the Salvation Army is doing on Ridge Street, a $28 million capital campaign, 17 or 18 million raised already. The Salvation Army is looking to bring a high barrier, high barrier, high barrier shelter, additional high-barrier shelter infrastructure to Charlottesville, Virginia. We'll give some attention to a partner of the show, Charlestful Sanitary Supply. John and Andrew Vermillion are the owners of Charlottesville Sanitary Supply,

a business that's proudly served the community for 62 years. The Vermilions are five generations in Almara County, and Charlottesville Sanitary Supply is locally owned and operated. Anything swimming pool related, including pool construction, above ground pool, in-ground pool construction, water testing, pool robots, pool covers, swimming pool shade from the sun. You contact Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company online at Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company.com, the sister company to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply,

and anything cleaning related, janitorial related, vacuum-related, Bona hardwood floors related, the first phone call is to Charlottesfell Sanitary Supply or the in-person visit at East High Street. Judah Wickhauer's studio camera. The Jack of All Trades, the Jack of All Wits, a gentleman that has a voice of reason on our talk show, a man I respect tremendously.

I'll ask you the first question I ask you every single day. I try to throw you a softball to get the wheels greased and moving in the right direction. There's a lot of quality content on today's rundown. Which headline or storyline most intrigues you and why, as handsome Hank Martin is watching the show William McChesney is watching the program Vanessa Park Hill is watching the show I have a city counselor watching the program

and Almore County Board of Supervisor a Nelson County Board of Supervisor Louisa County Board of Supervisor folks in City Hall a state delegate a state senator watching the program right now Judah Wickcaro, the show is yours my friend I think the most interesting topic to me is probably

the Spanberger veto of the legalization of weed bill that the General Assembly put forward. And I believe she had sent it back with some revisions that were a lot of people have complaints about. And when the General Assembly refused to, I think, even acknowledge her changes, she just straight up vetoed the bill. Have we seen any governor in the federal? their first four and a half months in office face more criticism, shade, or disdain than Abigail Spanberger.

Virginia Democrats now are splittering in their support of the governor, Virginia Republicans. I don't even know if I'd call it splintering. It sounds pretty universal that she's maybe despised too strong a word, but I think a lot of people are disappointed. and showing their disappointment. The disgust and the disdain for Abigail Spamberger is palpable and tangible. It is amazing what has happened in four and a half months, very much like Donald Trump did when campaigning for his second term. Abigail Spamberger, when campaigning for her first term,

as the first female governor in Virginia history, is doing in a lot of ways the exact opposite of what she promised Virginians if she was elected. She is no longer focused on affordability. She is criminalized weed. Look at what she's done for collective bargaining and labor rights and labor leverage with teachers. Look at what she's done with unionization. She is clearly, clearly, gun rights, taxes. She's Louise.

No different than Trump. I'm going to focus on affordability for America. Americans. I'm going to focus on domestic issues. I'm not going to get us into global or international wars. I'm going to strengthen the, I mean, I'm going to strengthen the balance sheet for middle class America. The opposite, once they're in office, ladies and gentlemen. I have a couple items that are in my notebook that I want to relate to the viewers and listeners, Judah. Lars Tiffany, by now you know, has been either let go or fired. Certainly looks like a fire. It certainly looks like a to me, a press release of less than 40 words from Carla Williams issued on Monday.

Jerry Rackleff will give him some attention. $8 a month to subscribe to Jerry Rackliff.com. The price of a cup of coffee is covering this story. He is all over this story like White on Rice. Evidently, according to reporting from Jerry Rackleff, insider, paywall reporting for Jerry Rackleff. I will give you a tease to encourage you to subscribe. There was a group of UVA players on the lacrosse team, more than a dozen UVA players who utilized the leverage of being a group. They approached Carla Williams, the athletic director, according to Rackliff's reporting. They said to Carla Williams, if Lars Tiffany is coming back, this group of more than one

dozen UVA lacrosse active rostered players would enter the transfer portal and it would never return to Charlottesville and the University of Virginia. Wow. It is a wild time we live in where players at the collegiate level can get a head coach fired or his contract not renewed. This according to Rackcliffe, Jerry Rackleff, content provided to his $8 a month subscribers. The player has more leverage now than ever because of the transfer portal. He no longer, she no longer has to wait a year before they can play again after transferring.

They can play immediately. Often they can play immediately at another school, making more money than the school that they were transferring from. There's other storylines in that article that are even juicier than what I just passed on to you. And if you want the rest of the juice and goodness gracious, boy, oh boy, the juice is worth to squeeze. $8 a month at Jerry Rackliff.com, the price of a cup of coffee. If you want the soap opera behind the Lars Tiffany firing, the cherry on top. This isn't even the best part of the Sunday, but the cherry to the Sunday is more than a dozen UVA lacrosse players.

Backroom wheeled and dealed with the help of one parent. He alludes to which parent it is in the story. And they form a group. They form a union. And they go to collect, they go to Carla Williams' office, the athletic director, and say if Lars Tiffany is back, we're out of Charlottesville. We're hitting the road, Jack. Now, the league of the program, Judah Wickhauer, is. Don Gathers. Probably the most compelling three minutes of content I've seen in a very long time.

My wife watched it. She said not only was it compelling, but it was cringe-worthy, compelling for her. She said it was of distasteful how she was speaking, how Don Gathers was speaking to the city councilors yesterday. I heard from, if I had to put a back of the napkin estimate, somewhere between 100, 200 DMs, emails, text messages, comments on Don Gathers's public portion of a city council meeting commentary within the last 24 hours. The feedback has been significant. Don Gathers's three minutes before council was seen by very limited people because no one attends these meetings and very few watch them on the YouTube or Facebook channel during city council meetings. But when the I Love Seville show plays the three minutes, tens of thousands of people in central Virginia

and beyond watch and see it. Now it's common knowledge. I want to play the three minutes again, and I'm going to ask you this question after playing the three minutes. You have it ready to go? If a white man had used this script and was the man behind the microphone speaking to counsel, where Don Gathers called the mayor, basically an uncle Tom, called the vice mayor, the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Natalie and Nancy Reagan,

and compared Lloyd Snook to Rudy Giuliani and a number of other unfavorable adjectives, would the white male had the opportunity to finish the three minutes of public comments or would counsel of shut off the white man's microphone as he was speaking to the five most, I guess, on paper, influential politicians in central Virginia, on paper at least. Judah, let's play the three minutes, and then I want you and I to go back and forth on this because, boy, oh boy, boy, hot diggedy dog, this is, this is, this is something. This is something. Get your popcorn ready, ladies and gentlemen. Heck, you might need your scotch in three, and two, and one.

Thank you. Don. Good evening. Don Gathers, City resident. I do not come here this evening in peace. I come today trying my best to understand why some of you still continue to ignore the will of the people. Some of you have seemingly sold what's left of your soul to the countless stream of developers that continuously swoop into Charlottesville.

Counselor Payne, Councilor Fletcher, I applaud you for standing firm listening to the people in doing what you knew was morally right. The other three of you, Lloyd, Natalie, and Juan Diego. The egregious, horrific vote that you placed at the last City Council meeting will probably be your lasting legacy. You all routinely and systematically go against the very direction of the boards and commissions that you've impanled. You disregard the words of the citizens heard during community matters. Lord, you have morphed into Charlottesville's version of Rudy Giuliani. Brazen, verbose, mean-spirited, and wrong, all while snookering the people of Charlottesville. Natalie, you would seemingly be the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan could procreate.

Your astronomy bear the hope of trickle down housing that does not, has not, and will not manifest itself in any meaningful way. And you, Juan Diego, you are turning into the Mike Signor 2.0. To hell with the people, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. You will sit on the precipice of becoming a modern-day Negro pen. What? Negro Pian. You are the Charlottesville's answer

to Clarence Thomas, leading the charge for the newest version of Jim Crow Redlining, betraying the people of Charlottesville. I would like to think there's presently a crisis of conscience, yet I'm left to wonder if there is a conscience. What you demonstrate

is not leadership, it's cowardice. Cowardous in its worst form. You're being used as a modern-day racist tools of white supremacy. Your seemingly thoughtless actions will surely drive up the homeowner's cost in taxes, causing many of them to have to leave their family homes. This at best is backdoor gentrification. These developers are Charlottesville's weapons of mass destruction. You would never allow this to go on in Greenbrier or Park Street or Belmont.

You may think that this fixes the previous screw up on the zoning ordinance, but in reality it's the moral equivalence of changing your shirt because you've crapped your pants. While your actions will surely expand the city's tax base, it will simultaneously change the very landscape of the Fifeville community. It will most assuredly change the fabric of an established community that you were elected in part to protect and not to destroy. You were elected to represent all the people, not just the rich, but here you've missed the mark. Thank you. Okay, I sincerely want to say this again. I've had some back and forth direct message conversation with Don Gathers, who's watching the program as we speak here. I said this yesterday. I'll say it again. That is the most popcorn-worthy content that I have consumed in 2026, period, bar none, including the content I produce Monday through Friday on the I Love Civo show. That three minutes is better content than I have.

produced in 2026, period, bar none. He had, he was premeditated in his commentary. There was a script he was reading from. Oh yeah. He'd read that before and knew he was going to be under the three minutes. He, he timed that script, he practiced that script, that script had language that was strategic, pointed, and aggressive. The only thing that was executed not to the level of 100% execution was the delivery where there were a handful of stumbles that took a little away from the execution of what he was trying to do. Regardless, I need to highlight certain favorite aspects of that script for me. Mine, taking your shirt off because you crapped your pants. I laughed out loud. I laughed out loud that time. People in the crowd laughed out loud. I thought it was

effing hilarious. I don't know what you thought about that, Judah Wickhauer. That was definitely worth the price of admission. Worth the price of admission. Very well. said, my friend. The love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan. I found it absolutely hilarious. I think it's incorrect. I think it's more the love child like Conan Owen said on the show yesterday

of AOC and Hillary Clinton. I think that's a better reflection. I don't think that's Margaret Thatcher. Those are just my own words. No, definitely not. Okay. Rudy Giuliani with Lloyd Snook. Rudy Giuliani 1.0? Rudy Giuliani in Manhattan

in New York City? That man was hero. Rudy Giuliani 2.0? That man, not so heroic. Okay? A bit disaster. The initial version of Rudy Giuliani was heroic. The whole broken windows theory of cleaning up Manhattan in New York City, Rudy Giuliani, that version, hero. The Rudy Giuliani we know today, not so much. The use of snookering with Snook's last name, I'm going to work that into my lexicon into my vocabulary. I thought it was phenomenal. I'm sure Lloyd Snook will appreciate that.

I thought it was absolutely phenomenal. Conan Owen sent me a text this morning. He was doing some signage this morning in the Macklin building. We have a portfolio of 24 tenants, 24 doors. A lot of them in the building we're in right now on the first and second floor. He was updating the signage for some of our tenants. He owned Sir Speedy in Central Virginia. Just gave this man a free plug and throw him a crap load of business.

Goodness gracious, Conan. McCallin, 12, please, and back to sponsoring the I Love Seville Show, with the business we're throwing your way, and the mentions we're giving of you on this program, the water cooler of content and conversation. As he was doing the signage, Lloyd Snook walks in, into the lobby. Lloyd Snook says to Conan Owen, hey, is someone moving into the building?

I see you're updating the signage. Conan Owen looks at Lloyd Snook and dead pantom in the guy. Yep, Don Gathers is moving in. He just signed a lease. Lloyd Snoke heard it, turned ghost white, and then offered a belly laugh once he realized that Conan Owen was joking. I don't know if that story is true or not, and honestly, I don't care. It's 100% true. It's a great story.

It's 100% true. I can show you the text message. Literally told me that's what happened. Now, here's the uncomfortable conversation we're going to have on the I Love Seville show, because this is the water cooler of content and conversation. So buckle up and get ready for some awkwardness. Something that's going to make your skin crawl a little bit, okay? are you ready for this, Judah Wickhauer?

Viewers and listeners, are you ready for this? If a white man had used Don Gathers' script before city council, would the white man have gone from start to finish on the script or would the white man

have had his microphone turned off and would he have been forced to stop talking during the public comments portion of Monday night city council meeting? Judah Wickcower, my friend, your first to offer your commentary and thoughts on this topic. My first thought is that who controls the off button?

If it was Juan Diego Wade, I don't think it would get turned off. In fact, Don Gathers even got thanks, I believe, from Juan Diego Wade at the end of his speech. The thank you, Juan Diego Wade offered at the end of the speech was not a genuine and sincere thank you. It was just the, oh, thanks, dude. And if you notice, Juan Diego Wade tried to break the ice before the speech started, when he said, good evening to Don Gathers, to try to make it affable, likable, more gentle, because he knew that

Don Gathers was going to come after him with some serious firepower, because he's been posting about this on social media and their friends. Don Gathers, of all the commentary in that three-minute speech, the one that was, I think, most out of bounds, of line and offensive is the, I mean, he basically called Juan Wade at Uncle Tom. Did he not? I mean, I've got it right here. He called him Mike Signer 2.0. He said he was on the precipice of being a modern day Negro pean. I didn't even know what that word was. Did you know what that word was? I didn't either. We looked up the definition of Negroopian. Did we not? Yeah. And what is the definition? I mean, it's nothing really special, but it basically is just, uh, I had never heard of that

word in my entire life. Negropian is a slang. For those who don't know what a portmanteau is, it's when you take two words and put them together. So obviously, Negro and European. Cultural sociological term that's primarily used within black American and Afro-diasporic online commentary.

And it's basically someone who perpetuates the agenda of elitist, colonial Puritan basically pushing non-black agendas, I think is

a succinct way to put it. He is basically called the mayor and Uncle Tom. Yeah. Also said Seville's answer to Clarence Thomas leading the charge on Jim Crow redlining and betraying the people of Seville.

So here's the uncomfortable conversation. If a white man had used the Don Gather script, would the white man have gotten from start to finish with the script? That's highly doubtful. Highly doubtful. We referenced Kevin Cox on yesterday show when Kevin Cox, who was, was he, how many jogged my memory, he was on the Cherry Avenue corridor,

was he hit by a vehicle, or was he? I think it was Elliot. Oh, was Elliot? And it was, oh no, Kevin Cox painted a crosswalk. Yeah, it was a woman who had gotten hit. That's right. Like maybe, was it a year before, I think? And died.

Died, yes. Yeah, a woman died at the Elliott intersection. I believe in her 50s. Yeah. And had a son. Yeah, she died trying to cross the street. And so he fed up with, what's the guy's name, Elliot? No, that's the street.

Who's the guy that he was exploring? Brendan Duncan, the traffic engineer? Yeah. fed up with Brendan Duncan not doing anything in terms of putting a crosswalk. He works for City Hall, Brennan Duncan. Cox went and put his own crosswalk in there with washable paint and then had a bit of an issue with the city saying, hey, we're not going to wash it off or wait for it to wash off by itself.

Was legitimately facing jail time, Kevin Cox? Because they sent someone to paint over the washable paint and then we're going to charge him for the use of the city's time. Kate Sharts got good comments here that we're going to get to. Ginny Who's got good comments that we're going to get to? Deep Throats got good comments that we're going to get to. Would a white man using the Don Gather script have had his microphone turned off or would that white man using the Don Gathers' script been able to get from start to finish

in the public comments. That's the topic that's uncomfortable that we're talking about on the water cooler of content and conversation in the I Love Seville Show today. The influential viewer and listener who has not given me approval, this is an extremely heavy hitter,

who has not given me approval to use his name, so I will not use his name. I will not use his name, but it's a heavy, heavy hitter, absolutely agrees, absolutely believes, absolutely believes,

absolutely believes that a white man would have been able to speak to counsel that way from start to finish. Absolutely believes a white man would have. Would have been able to issue or utilize the Don Gather script from start to finish. This person says, I don't have this person's approval yet to utilize their name. I'm a man of my word. One of the reasons I get all this content and inside information is because people understand that I know the concept of on the record and off the record.

Sourced material that's on the record or off the record. background information, and I respect boundaries. This individual, I do not agree with your contention that counsel would have cut off any speaker other than Don Gathers for saying the things that Don said on Monday. Of course, it's speculation on your part to make that assumption, just as it is equally speculative on my part to believe counsel would have allowed a different speaker to continue making remarks in the same vein as Don's. The applicable rule from counsel meeting guidelines is that personal attacks against

Councilors, City staff, or members of the public are not permitted. While it is not stated in the rule, I believe counsel would be right to draw a line between counselors and city staff or members of the public with deciding whether remarks during community matters amount to unpermitted personal attacks. The reason I say this is that counselors are elected public officials. I believe, and I hope council also believes that wide latitude must be given for criticism of counselors' voting records and that strong language.

in expressing that criticism should be permitted. The essence is democracy. This is the essence of democracy. City, staff, and members of the public, however, deserve a different level of protection so that I can understand that Don's comments might be viewed as unpermitted personal tax

if directed to a staff member or the public, but to counsel, it's different. Bottom line for me is, I trust counsel to apply the rules fairly and not to discriminate on the basis of viewpoint or any other factors such as gender or race. Kate Sharts, the Queen of Ivy, her photo on screen. She offers this. I trust Kate Sharts. Kate Sharks is a reasonable person, voice of reason in my notebook. She says the county, Alboro County School Board shuts down the microphones immediately.

If anyone in the public comments of a school board meeting mentions in nasty form anything about Almore County and it's school board. I wonder why it's not the same rules for the city. Conan Owen responds to her and says, I don't think the school board should be cutting off anyone's microphone until their time is up. But Kate is right. The school board

has done that. Kevin Cox had his microphone turned off. This influential person is saying he had his microphone turned off because Kevin Cox was attacking Brennan Duncan, the traffic engineer. And not one of the council members. And not one of the council members.

Ginny Who offers this on Twitter. Here's Ginny Who and then I'll go to Deep Throat. Ginny Who says if a white man, a white man would have been doxed and had his life ruined by now if he had used the Don Gather script. Oh, if there were as many people as were in the city council meeting as were at the presentation that was given on the no-campus. BAMPing ban. Yeah, I think the, I think a white man probably would have been dragged out of the city council, uh, city council meeting, uh, unless police stopped it. Yeah. I mean, deep throats comments on this. Let me go further than you on the claim about the Don Gather script. I am quite sure a white male would not have been able to finish. We saw what happened to Kevin Cox, but where I go further is this. I think quite a lot of black men and women would have been

cut off two. Counsel may have been, may have a bit of a racial double standard, but the real double standard is what activists can get away with versus the ordinary citizen. So deep throat is his stance is that Don Gathers has so much equity and influence locally because of his platform as an activist and had an everyday Joe or everyday Jennifer citizen. even if they were black had made those comments to council, they would have had their microphone shut off.

That's basically what he is saying that it's like, I could count on one hand. You're probably talking what? Tenisha Hudson, Nakaya Walker, Don Gathers? Do we think that some of the, do we think that someone like Gilliken would have been, would have been...

You're saying if Matthew Gilliken, that is a great talking point. If Matthew Gilliken, Like Deep Throat said, if it's more about, it sounded to me like Deep Throat was almost saying that city council is afraid of the activist. And so that is perhaps. Oh, that's exactly what Deep Throat is saying. A larger part of why Don Gathers was allowed to say what he said rather than race or sex. That's exactly what he's saying, that city council is afraid of the activists.

So you're asking the question the most notorious. white activists in Charlottesville as Matthew Gilliken. And if the most notorious white activists in Charlottesville had used the Don Gather's script, are you of the mindset that the most notorious white activists in Charlestville, Matthew Gilliken, would have been able to execute the Don Gather script from start to finish? Ah, man, that's a tough call. I'm not sure if they would have given him the same latitude. I don't know if I really believe that he would have been allowed to get all the way through

the three minutes. but he may be one of the closest people besides some of the names that you mentioned. I think the only people that could have used the Don Gather script from start to finish are Don Gathers, Nakaya Walker and Tenisha Hudson. Yeah, you're probably right. If I had gone on there, I have influence in this community. It's facts or facts here. And I used that Don Gather script from start to finish.

There's not a doubt in my mind my microphone would have been turned off. not a doubt in my mind but you know what's wild is here you have Don Gathers on Monday night using a script where he called Mayor Juan Diego Wade and Uncle Tom Mike Signer 2.0

verbally attack Lloyd Snook and said Natalie Ocean was the love child of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan and had some other nasty things to say about her and the only platform talking about this is the I Love Sevo Show. It's not a story at all in legacy media in any capacity. Right.

And that right there is, A, a microcosm of what is wrong with our society today, and B, that right there is a microcosm of why the I Love Seville show is at the forefront of content in media in this 300,000-person region. and outside of the UVA platform and brand, the most influential driver of content currency in Central Virginia, period, bar none. Good job from you on this. And we should save that three minutes forever. The best three minutes of content I've seen in 2026.

Period, bar not. Period, bar not. Next topic, what do you got, Judah Wickcarrow? Oh, comments are coming in. Let me get to comments. Oh, okay. Let me get to comments. I apologize for that. Handsome Hank Martin. Jerry, your anonymous commenter may be accurate.

Currently, with all the recent mistakes made by Charlottesville City Council as of late, turning the microphone off on anyone presently would simply pour gasoline on an already growing conflagration. Conflagration. Oh, there you go. Gosh, let me butcher some more words. You guys are so smart. constantly different words here, SAT words,

of its optics from handsome Hank Martin. William McChesney's photo on screen, if I delivered that speech, I would have to move. If I was able to make it home after the speech, I'm not sure I would have been able to make it home after that speech. But if I did make it home,

my wife and I would have to pack up our Samsonite and go elsewhere. Vanessa Park killed. Like I said, I don't think there were a whole lot of people in that council meeting. No one knew about this. So I think... Judo, when I was looking at the YouTube video from that,

and I apologize for interrupting, when I was looking at the YouTube video from Monday night on Tuesday morning of that city council meeting, there was 53 views. And I personally accounted for seven of them checking it on seven different occasions on Monday night and Tuesday morning.

That means there was 46 unique IP address, 46 views on that YouTube video. There was barely any people in a table. attendance at that meeting. Yeah. It's not until the I Love Sevo show covered this that it's become a talking point in the region. No one knew about this.

Yeah. Go ahead and make your point. I apologize for interrupting. I was just going to say, yeah, yeah, I think, Bill, you would have been fine at this particular meeting. However, you may be right about the having to move after. Once word got out. Jason Hampshire watching the program.

Sarah Bowling Hogan watching the program. Vanessa Parkill, what exactly is, quote, the black agenda? I'm a mature white woman, but I expect the agenda of most black families is similar to mine, to raise my family in a community free of crime. For my kids and me to have the opportunity to learn and utilize skills that can support my household. It should not be that complicated. Oprah Winfrey said it best. everyone has the same wants.

Everyone wants to be seen, heard, and understood. Everyone wants a household, a roof over their head, food for their family, a couple of dollars left over to do something they want. We all have a lot of similar common denominators, and we're not that different from each other, ladies and gentlemen. It's the politics, it's the social media, it's the corporate America that wants to divide the country. community for their personal gain.

Feeding the fire. Feed the fire because there's opportunity and division. And I'll tell you right now, one of the best pieces of advice I've ever received in my life is comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah. You want to be joyous? Comparison is the thief of joy. You want another?

It's an extension of the grass is greener quote. 100%. You want another very good piece of advice for the viewers and listeners that are not married? or that are single, for you, Judah Wickhara. Judah Wickhauer. Marry someone that is happy. Find a life partner that is genuinely a happy person. Yeah.

Seriously. Okay. You want some other advice, viewers and listeners? Stop comparing yourself to your neighbors. The Joneses are always going to beat you. Make your profession, your passion, you'll never work a day in your life. And speaking about that, let's segue. directly into Jim Ryan.

Jim Ryan speaks at graduation. Someone called disgraced former UVA president. I think that's fair. Others would call unfairly scapegoated UVA president. Someone called the fallen UVA president.

Someone called the collaterally damaged UVA president, Jim Ryan. He sits down with legacy media for half an hour and he offers a glimmer, a glimpse, some inside into what he's doing today. Remember, he's on sabbatical. He's being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, nearly a million dollars, 75% of what he was earning at the University of Virginia, and he was clipping a million plus. So this dude is making about

$750,000, $750,000 smackaroos to basically walk around in his tidy whitties in his home in Ehrlichsville. No longer at Cars Hill. Do whatever he wants. Walk around, buck-ass naked if he wants in Orleansville, Jim Ryan. He sits down with Legacy Media and he says, this is what I've been up to. Are you ready for this? I've been surfing. I've been skiing. I've been kiteboarding.

Turns out it has a lot of, I have a lot of hobbies. And I love the life of luxury. And I'm going to do it. And I'm proud to say it. First, I want to give props to Jim Ryan. Walk around, Buckass Naked or in his tidy whiteies in his earlysville home. Props to Jim Ryan for doing that. I'm going to give props to Jim Ryan for having a contract where he could get basically fired

and still have $750,000 in compensation for 13 months and a lot of other pompant circumstance and then have a job waiting for him at the law school when the 13-month window was over where he has to work less than he did as a president and still get paid virtually the same amount of money. Great job, Jim Ryan. No doubt. Great job, Jimbo. I'm going to give props to Jimbo for skiing, for surfing, for kiteboarding. Man, that man's pectoral muscles and his biceps and his lats and traps must be jacked.

He's got more time than ever to do outside experiential activities. Props to Jimbo for that. I will offer a little bit of pause and a little bit of a strategic advice to Jimbo here. Gasoline is $4.50. Groceries are more expensive than ever. Dominion Electric is on the cusp of being purchased by a Florida utility company that is basically using a smoke and mirror scheme of electric credits, electric credits, so we can get this monopoly to be approved.

And once the electric credits expire for Virginians, we're going to grab you by the short and curlies and squeeze your cajones and raise your utility bills even more. I mean, I just drove by a gas station that was at 449 a gallon. We have floating debt more expensive than ever. The Fed likely cutting interest rates in 2026. Every day that ticks by becomes less and less of a reality. Donald Trump is basically telling America, I could give a rat's ass for middle class America. I'm going to do whatever it takes to win this war in Iran. I don't care if I'm negotiating with the most unethical people on the planet, people that look at Americans as if they were the devil incarnated Lucifer himself. They're going to do what I want. want dark triad personality traits from Donald Trump think he can win any circumstance just because he's Donald Trump. He's literally negotiating with the devil that will never do what he wants. He's going to continue this cycle of $4 and $5 a gallon gas that is crippling middle class America

all at the same time when groceries are off the charts expensive, floating debt is off the charts expensive, utility bills are off the charts expensive, housing is off the charts expensive, rents are off the charts expensive health care is off the charts expensive and Abigail Spanberger the only saving grace we may have is a little effing puff puff pass of Samariazuana and she's saying

no way dog I'm gonna I'm gonna ash out that green and I'm gonna get that side card that double bubble Jerome Baker 18 incher and I'm gonna clog it up so you can't even enjoy it that's what Spanberger's doing what is Jimbo Ryan doing Let's tell the world I'm kiteboarding. Let's tell the world I'm surfing.

Let's tell the world I'm skiing and I have all the money and all the hobbies in the world and I'm living the life of a luxury. As middle-class Charlottesville, middle-class America and middle-class University of Virginia is trying to rub a couple nickels together to turn it into a quarter and heading to the Harris Teeter to buy out all the robin and it has on the shelves and the meat that's marked from yesterday. that. That is called out of touch. I want to give the man props. He's a hell

of a negotiator. He had a great contract. I want to give the man props. Everyone wants to walk around in their tidy whiteies are buck ass naked at 1 p.m. in your Earleysville, Alboro County estate. But we can't do that. Am I missing anything, Judah Wickcower? I think you covered the basis.

Is it out of touch, Judah Wickcower? I think so. You know, yeah. He's talking. about, yeah, I mean, he's living the life that a lot of us wish we could be living. Hank Martin makes this comment. Jim Ryan in his graduation speech was cracking jokes. I'm really good at not working describing his post-presidency life,

which is full of travel, skiing, golf, surfing, and kiteboarding. He's enjoying the luxury of closure. The community he left behind is still dealing with the fallout by a letter-suffer. by 128 physicians expressing no confidence in the UVA health system because of fraudulent billing, falsified medical records, and a toxic culture of workplace intimidation. What are you doing, Jim Ryan? There's been a Christmas list of examples, a good boy and a good gal's Christmas list of examples of Jim Ryan being out of touch as president of the University of Virginia.

He threw shade at the Daily Progress. called the Daily Progress on Ethical. He told the anonymous 128 doctors that they were like the cry babies and the little wusses and weenies that didn't get invited to the prom that were now malcontents because the cheerleaders

and the star quarterback from the football team didn't choose them for a little boom shakalaka on prom night and instead they have to watch reruns of friends and reruns of science in reruns of Melrose Place and reruns of 90210 instead of going to prom because all they are are malcontents and cry babies that couldn't get along in the corporate health care culture of the University of Virginia. They should be ignored. That's what he called them. These 128 are small potatoes ignore them. He then had to apologize for that. Never got the report on the triple murder at the University of Virginia. Pepper spraying students at a pro-Palestine protest on grounds. Had the back of Craig Kent, told Craig Kent, told the world that Craig Kent's the man. He's the gold standard.

He's a doctor of ethics. There's a long list of examples of being public relations out of touch here. And this one is the best one of all. Sorry, Almar County, and sorry Charlottesville and Flouana County, and Louise County, and Orange County. And sorry, Wahoo Nation. I know that the groceries are expensive, and I know that the gasoline's expensive, and the floating debt's expensive,

and the utilities that are expensive, and the mortgage is expensive, and the escrow's going up, and the insurance is going up, and the taxes are going up, and the landlords are raping you and sticking it when the sun don't shine. But have you tried kiteboarding?

I know all this is expensive, but goddamn kiteboarding is a lot of effing fun. Holy crap, I can go surfing on a Tuesday and my speedo and my speedo bikini. Yeah. He actually said, I have a large number of interests and hobbies. I love to ski. I love to surf and kiteboard.

I don't know if you know what kiteboarding is, but Google it. See, we can't make this shit up. We can't make this up, ladies and gentlemen. I could not come up with the Don Gather script. I could not come up with Jim Ryan telling graduation that I'm really good at not working and being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars on the back of Virginia taxpayers. I can't make this up. Carol Thorpe says don't forget about Morgan Beninger what he did to her.

I can't make this up. It's the best place in America to live for a content creator. And speaking in the University of Virginia, put the headline on screen about a vice. president from UVA, put that lower third on screen. Speaking of graduation and speaking of UVA's administration, one of the many vice presidents, that fat on the payroll that is absolutely, that is absolutely dripping with hundreds of thousands of dollars at administration bloat. One of those vice presidents, Judah's going to give us to who, what, when, where, why? One of these vice presidents at graduation, at final exercises tells anyone in

everyone that's listening, which just happens to be the parents of the students that pay their salary, that Thomas Jefferson is a piece of crap. They use graduation and final exercises to call Thomas Jefferson a piece of crap. Tell him the story, Judah. Jeez, Louise. This comes from Kenyon Bonner. He's a, he's UVA's vice president of students. affairs and during graduation he said among other things for all his brilliance his unfounded and ethically corrosive claims about human capacity reflected his ignorance and hubris history teaches us that ignorance precedes injustice referring to Thomas Jefferson in a caricature of I mean

here's the guy that built UVA He is UVA. Built Monticello. And graduation and final exercises were utilizing the speech portion, the keynote speech portion of graduation and final exercises, to call Thomas Jefferson a piece of crap. Ignorance and hubris. Holy Toledo.

We are in Looney Tunes land. and we haven't even got to the governor. How about that lower third on screen? And then David Trekirichie's comments, the owner of scumaboutique dispensary, Spamberger, Spamberger, Spamberger. She campaigns on affordability for Virginians. Spamberger, Spamberger,

campaigns on gun rights, Spamberger. Wait. Did she campaign on gun rights? She didn't want to talk about the guns, but now she's talking about the guns Spamberger taxes Spamberger weed legalize it in

Puff Puff pass Get me the spliff get me the blunt The 18 inch Jerome Baker With the double bubble in the sidecar Now Abigail Spamberger says I'm ashen that joint I'm clogging that stem With some nasty nasty res

And there's no paper clip or hanger in sight What did Spamberger do well first she she took the bill that was offered by the general assembly she sent it back with some provisions that she wanted some changes they did not like those changes and one of them I think was particularly egregious and has caused many of her

current detractors to say that she's just you know she's CIA she's always been CIA and she always will be and there's a lot of disappointment that she's moved away from the left. Essentially, she was keeping in the criminalization of walking around. If you get caught walking around, you could potentially get jail time. And I think the worst was that, the worst, from what I've seen, people dislike the most is the fact that

if you go across state lines it could mean life in jail and you know that whoever's in charge of whatever operation it is is not going to be the one driving the car across state lines it's going to be some poor kid it's called a mule who ends up getting life in prison for

you know for what for something that's legal it's called a mule for something that's legal here So scumaboutique dispensary, David Trekirici, he's got the dispensary on the downtown mall that looks like an apple store, the first dispensary in Charlottesville and on the downtown mall. David Trekirichie is a military veteran, a husband and a father of three, and all around three or four. I mean, he's popping out Bambino's, he and his wife left and right, and all around A plus human being grew up in this area. David Trekirichie posted his comments on Facebook about Spamberger and what this is going to do. to Scuma and his business and all his employees.

Do you have that screenshot on? Look at the screen. Look at the screen. Look at the screen. David Trekirici, exact words. I am ashamed of every level of government from our lying spook governor to the demonic foreign country

that controls us for their genocidal intentions. This country's disgrace has finally outweighed its propaganda. May our shared God grant me the strength. rank to revoke my service, connected disability entitlement, my citizenship, my slavery while I spit on the flag. Crash-out signage on the downtown mall is coming soon, and I will sacrifice my business and life to scream it from the rooftops. Just wait. Holy Toledo! What is he about to do? I don't know what a crash-out is, but I can't wait to see it. Spamberger is incredibly disingenuous with so many

things. Now it's in cannabis and Mayor Joana. They're calling her a Lockhart Liberal among other things. Lockheed liberal, I'm sorry. Lockheed liberal, because Lockheed is part of the military industrial complex.

They're calling her a corporatist Democrat. Lockheed Martin, a leading global security defense and aerospace contractor. What is David Trecoranji going to do at Scuma when he means crash out signage on the downtown Mo is coming soon and I will sacrifice my business and life to scream it from the rooftops. Just wait. David, you're my friend. You have a wife and children. Please be careful. No doubt. What is going on?

Did we cover all the headlines? Are there anything left? Let's see. Holy Toledo. We've talked about Rose Hill. Geez, Louise, I'm at a loss for words. How about this one? Livable Seaville, Matthew Gilliken, Stephen Johnson, and the new zoning ordinance.

Guess what? You wolf and sheep's clothing you. The Rose Hill neighborhood is now on the cusp of facing a seven-story, 100-unit luxury apartment building. I don't think this is going to be quite as egregious as the mark. If you look at the area, you know more about this than I do. I just, I don't see this overshadowing, you know, smaller, smaller apartments.

It seems to be in a more business-centric area, I'm just saying. In fact, this is like a roughly a block of. away from that garage I visited recently. Deep throat, yeah, I know exactly where it is. Deep throat, deep throats got this comment. 601 Almaro Street. The Preston and Rose Hill neighborhoods are going to be lit. City Council chose to listen to the siren call of livable Seaville.

So you know what? Now Fifell, Rose Hill, West Haven, and Tenth and Page are going to be vaporized. we will see in real time that the Carlton Avenue Rose Hill, Fifeville, West Haven, 10th and Page in Star Hill neighborhoods, the residents will be scattered by the wind.

All this because of livable seaville. And he also adds Virginia voters and Virginia Democrats, now you're surprised that a CIA spook is in playing it straight with you? Suck it. Deep throat. Oh, man.

You can't make this up. Seven stories, 100 units, and historically marginalized in black Rose Hill neighborhood. They're building apartment towers that are going to block the sunshine at West Haven, where you're basically, if you're a West Haven resident, you're going to be living in Anchorage, Alaska. You'll see the sunshine,

a few days a year. Fifeville, they put a luxury UVA student tower on some side streets in the middle of Fifell that's going to forever gentrify that community.

Between a church and a neighborhood. Between a black church and a black neighborhood. Rose Hill, you're getting a luxury apartment tower in the Rose Hill neighborhood.

And guess what? Tenth and page, you're next. livable seaville thought that relaxed zoning was going to create affordability for black and brown people. Instead, livable seaville is eliminating black and brown people from Charlottesville.

Sadly. I mean, do you see what's happening? This is not impacting Greenbrier, Belmont, North Downtown, Rugby, the Blue Ridge neighborhood, Meadowbrook neighborhood, the barracks neighborhood. It's only impacting the marginalized neighborhoods. And who told you this was going to happen? Who told you this was going to happen?

I told you this was going to happen. And the entire time I told you this was going to happen on this talk show and the spoken word and written word, I was called every nasty word under the book, under the sun. And look who's right. Look who's right. And yes, I'm saying I told you so. Stanley Martin Holmes, a partner of this program.

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We'll talk of the economy. We'll talk real estate. We'll talk to VALVALE. element. Matt Greed in the house. The dude is an absolute unit in the wait room. He is a specimen like a grizzly bear. Judah Wickhauer, yours truly Jerry Miller. We can't make this stuff up, Judah. All we have to do is wake up in Charlottesville and Almore County and open our ears and just be like, do that really happen? For Judah Wickhauer, I'm Jerry Miller. And that's the Wednesday edition of the I Love Seville Show.