The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Creigh Deeds' UVA Investigation Deadline In 7 Days; Respond/React To Creigh Deeds' UVA Investigation

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us. Good Thursday afternoon to you. A lot to cover on the program. Take a look at the screen for today's headlines, kind of a game plan for what we want to do with the content. But we encourage you, the viewer, and listener,

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Cree Deeds has got a deadline for the University of Virginia and its board of visitors that's seven days away. This is a letter that CREEDES penned to the B-O-V that I think is fantastic. I mean, CREDIDS is a savvy and seasoned politician, and he's asking questions that we all should be asking as it applies to Jim Ryan's resignation, how much influence the Department of Justice had, and whether B-O-V members that were yet on the board, specifically the rector and the vice rector had anything to do with Ryan's resignation

behind the scenes in conjunction with the DOJ and while they were kind of on in the on deck circle before being appointed to the BOV we're going to set the table with that to lead the show judah will give us to who what when where why and a fascinating article that's in the cavalier daily I bring this up now because the deadline is legitimately seven days away We're going to talk on today's program, tourism. How about this number? Was it $96 million a day in 2024, Judah? Something like that.

Let me see. Tourism in Virginia in 2024 record-setting total of $35.1 billion, a $2 billion year-over-year increase for 2020. That works its way out to be. Was it $96 million a day? It's right under the lead headline. $96 million a day spent on tourism in Virginia in 2024, ladies and gentlemen. That is just mind-boggling. We'll talk about that on today's show, a topic we didn't get to yesterday. Why are homes not selling as fast in Central Virginia?

This is not across all of Central Virginia, but it is a common denominator. There are still pockets in Central Virginia where when a home is listed and moves quickly, that Lewis Mountain to Croze, 240-250 corridor, that IV corridor, the homes are still moving extremely quickly within days. But for the most part, Central Virginia, ladies and gentlemen, the listings are getting long in the tooth and price improvements or price cuts are happening left and right. What gives? I want to spend some time on that conversation today. I didn't get to it yesterday. The interest rate environment is virtually the same. So what gives? And this scenario. We'll talk about that on the I Love Seville show today. And I want to get to the best use of Guadalajara on Fontaine Avenue. It's for sale. $1,400,000. I mean, is this a brewery? Is someone

crazy enough to get in the beer game at this stage of the world where young millennials and Jen Ziers are not drinking as much? Is this a restaurant play again? Is this a demolish the buildings, Guadalajara and Atlas, and build something else in its place? One thing we can say about that Guadalajara location and that Fontaine Avenue location is the proximity to the interstate, to the bypass, to the University of Virginia, to the Paul Manning Biotech Institute, it's a fantastic spot. And it's in a lot of ways one of the key pieces of real estate that will determine that urban Fry Springs setting. I'd say probably your two most key pieces of real estate over there are the pizza place, Pineappo, that's owned by front of the program, Terry Hinderman, who's a fantastic squash player. He also owns the shopping center across the street from the Fry Springs Station, Pizzeria,

and that's that Mori Avenue shopping center. There's a Chinese restaurant there. That's where bar, is it, Sabarkos? Donut shop is there. There's a bike shop there. So I've dubbed friend of the program. program, Terry Hinderman, the mayor of Fry Springs, because of his ownership of those two commercial real estate parcels. The late Mr. Wendell, who has since passed away, he owns the Dirty Nellie's food mart parcel in Fry Springs.

That one is extremely valuable as well. So what would happen with Goalajara? What happens with Atlas is the University of Virginia, pursue it. A lot of questions that I want to ask today and hopefully we can figure out the answers together. I want to highlight the Vermillion family, John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion. The Vermilions are five generations strong, ladies and gentlemen in Almorel County. John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion are class acts. The Charlestful Sanitary Supply is located on East High Street. It's online at charlesville'sadetary Supply.com. That business is keeping our

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that interest rates need to drop to the mid-fors for homes to start getting more affordable and for homeowners that secured 2% and 3% interest rates during COVID to start putting their homes back on the market. They suggest that number's in the mid-fors. last year that number was in the mid-fives. It had a five-handle with it. It's dropped to the fours because the inventory is getting more expensive.

So even if the rates drop, the price points have gone up, so they counterbalance each other. The inventory is not moving as fast in Charlottesville. We'll get to that in a matter of moments. But my friend, this Creed's Cavalier Daily report, this investigation that's got a deadline of a week away, is absolutely fascinating. it is i don't know how much uh does does he have the um does he have the

the influence in the so authority to uh to force them to answer these 46 questions that came up that very question came up i'm not going to say who brought it up i was touring some real estate yesterday in downtown charlestville commercial real estate beautiful real estate class a real estate huge everybody loves the real estate and someone we came across while this unnamed gentleman and I were touring a known commodity locally David Descano we ran into David Descano and we started talking about this Cree deeds investigation and the deadline and the questions that Cree is asking and you bring up those questions here in a matter of moments and the unnamed gentleman says does he have the authority to do what he's doing with the Board of Visitors?

And David Tiscano said absolutely Cree-Deeds does. Really? He absolutely has the authority. And David Tiscano, ladies and gentlemen, would know. I mean, you're talking about a city councilor for Charlottesville, a mayor for Charlottesville, a delegate in the Virginia House for decades, a 57th district. representative. The 57th, of course, was made up at the city of Charlottesville and part of Almorel County. He served as House Minority Leader from 2011 to 2018. He first won a Democratic

nomination in District 57 in the House of Delegates in 2005. I mean, here's a guy that made a living in the House of Delegates for decades, and he said absolutely Creed's does have this authority. that's wild set the stage for us with some of the questions Creed's is asking well

one of the reasons I say it's wild is because there's an interesting article in Bacon's Rebellion this written by Gordon C. Morris and he notes the fact that there are 100 delegates

and 40 senators and imagine if they all had 46 questions to ask over the board of visitors fair that's 6,440 questions Fair? And that's crazy.

And he also went through the document, I believe it's six pages. And in the 46 questions, there are 183 repetitions of did you. And. Which, I mean, that's a man. I mean, come on. He's writing 46 questions about did you this, did you that, did you this. And here's one of the questions. The guy's a lawyer by trade.

Here's one of the questions. Creed E's is a lawyer by train. Yeah. Will you hear this? You'll believe it. What is your understanding of the significance of having lost the confidence of the people who educate students in that university? Make put lower thirds on screen.

There should be two lower thirds we were rotating on screen for this. Go ahead. Would you want to answer that question? I mean, what's your problem with the question? You think it's too broad? I think it's. I think, I mean, it's not specific. It's not pointed enough. I mean, what's, just out of curiosity, your standpoint, you're a very reasonable person. What's the problem with how he's asked these questions? Is it the number of questions he's asked? I think it's the number of questions. I think it's the fact that he thinks they have the answers. He's asking these two people. They were, I don't believe they were in their current position. No, this is before they were on the board. Before they took their spots as rector and vice rector on the first of July. they were meeting prior to being on the board

meeting with the Department of Justice prior to being on the board right okay I'm curious here viewers and listeners before they're appointed to be on the board of visitors before they were the rector and vice rector on the BOV

they're meeting on behalf they're meeting on behalf of the Board of Visitors before being on the board of the board? You don't have an issue with that? Do we know that they were meeting? Do we know that they were representing the board at that time? A few days before they're the rector and vice rector.

They're meeting with the DOJ. And let me get this straight. They were not on the Board of Visitors at all before them. Not at that time. Not until July 1. That's the point of Cree Deeds' investigation. Did you read the Cavalier Daily article? Yeah.

I mean, do you think that's odd? I think the whole thing is odd. I think it's odd that nobody has answers. I think it's odd that the Board of Visitors has been like tight as a clam. that they've waited this long to to meet in the first place? The deadline's seven days away. There's so much more to this story.

So much more to the story. Did a conversation happen with two people before they were officially on the board of visitors? Did a conversation happen with these two people who are now the rector and vice rector? Did they meet with the DOJ and say, if Jim Ryan resigns, will we still get this federal funding? And will you back off the intensity of what you're doing to us? So is the allegation that they came on the board, went and met with President Ryan, and said,

if you leave, everything will be dropped? That's one of them. Did they broker a deal with the DOJ before they were officially on the board for the DOJ to stop investigating the University of Virginia and to keep and maintain federal funding? That is significant. Do you disagree? No, I don't disagree. It is significant. And Deeds, and, you know, granted how Deeds is asking these questions, there's a lot of them, how he's

presenting the questions is more in presenting as an attorney than he's presenting, you know, as, you know, what? Open-ended questions like you would want to see in other investigations. But seven days from now, I think if the B-O-V responds, we're going to have a lot more clarity of what's going on. Yeah, no doubt. What else are you following on this? I mean, the assistant attorney general at the Justice Department has unequivocally denied asking Ryan to resign. I do we really, I don't know, I, this all seems like a fishing expedition for someone that has no actual information. You think Cree Deeds is doing a fishing expedition? Essentially.

Why? I just out of curiosity. I mean, do viewers and listeners, do you agree with that? We're talking to, he's a state senator. Why not ask these questions of Ryan? Ryan's resigned. He's on sabbatical. And he's the one that knows why he resigned.

Ryan, Ryan, okay, so you're saying, why not ask Jim Ryan, these questions? Yeah. Yeah, why not ask the guy that resigned? Because the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act requests, and correct me if I'm wrong, viewers and listeners, this is a great question for John Blair. Does it not apply directly to the communication with the BOV instead of someone that's on sabbatical? I mean, technically is he, I mean, I guess, technically is he still an employee of UVA? I mean, I guess he's still an employee of UVA because after the sabbatical is over, which is 14 months, he's going to go work on the law school as a professor.

While he's on sabbatical, he's still getting paid by the university. Still getting paid from, yeah. So you think deans should have, the BOV is much more likely to have to respond than Ryan. That's fair, I guess. It still seems odd when I ask the guy that resigned, why he resigned? Janice Boyce Trevillian suggests, Jason Noble says he agrees with you, Judah, on asking about Jim Ryan. He also says asking vague questions, probably looking for vague answers so they can be interpreted in the most damning way. I don't trust him, but I'm biased. Jason Noble says of

Cree Deeds. I don't think Cree Deeds is coming. I don't trust anybody, frankly, to be honest. Especially not if they're in the government. Yeah. Especially if you're not, if you're a politician. But I don't think Cree Deeds is coming at this from a disingenuous angle. I think Cree Deeds is coming at, I mean, maybe the disingenuous angle that Cree Deeds is coming from is that he's a staunch Democrat and he's vehemently opposed to the Trump administration. So he's asking questions through a lens that may paint Trump and the DOJ as ones of overreach. But I think what Cree Deeds is really trying to get after is what did the current rector and vice rector do before they were officially on the board?

and I find it odd that the current rector and vice rector were meeting with the DOJ when they were not officially Board of Visitors members. I find that, what's the word? Is it shady? I don't know if it's shady, but I think it's overreach for them. Overreach for them to be meeting with the federal government and potentially having a discussion.

You go ahead here at a second. Potentially having a discussion about the president, in federal funding. You make it sound like they approached the DOJ with, you know, like a hairbrain scheme. And I'm sure they were probably called to the DOJ. Do we know that? No, of course we don't know that. Do we know if they were called?

Why would the DOJ, just clear, hear me out, why would the DOJ ask to meet with two people that are not on the board yet? Did they know they were going to be on the board? Of course they did. Yonkin may announce the appointments well earlier, but they officially were not on the board. Why would the DOJ ask to meet with two people that are not officially on the board yet? Or did the two people before they were rector and vice rector reach out to the DOJ, utilizing the clout and influence that was days away of being the rector and vice rector, vice rector and being board members.

So these two people, knowing that they're going to be on the board of visitors, approaches the DOJ with a plan that I don't, but the DOJ didn't need them as leverage against President Ryan. The DOJ's entire, there's one thought that the Department of Justice, its sole motive was to get Jim Ryan to resolve. you've heard that motive right and how they were going to get Ryan to resign was leveraging federal funding

yeah so was there some kind of back room deal brokered that said if Ryan resigns we extinguish our heat and you maintain the federal funding but that's kind of understood

anyways it doesn't seem like the kind of he Ryan wasn't going to resign it caught everyone by surprise the George Mason president is in a similar situation the George Mason

a board of visitors said we're going to stand by our guy and then paid him more money to show how much they're going to support him a raise yeah that's the complete opposite with what happened at UVA right John Blair's got comments photos on screen for Blair Jerry, in answer to your question from yesterday, in 2012, Bob McDonald replaced some of the Board of Visitors' members at Norfolk State.

Here's a link to the article. I asked the question yesterday, is there a precedent for a governor replacing Board of Visitors' members? I think yesterday I asked it in relation to the University of Virginia. But John has highlighted that Bob McDonnell, who I believe is from Virginia, B., in 2012 replaced board members at Norfolk State. John Blair also says Bob McDonald didn't technically fire them, but he asked for their resignations and they comply. Also a different scenario, John, thank you for this color and background.

Also a different scenario than Bert Ellis, who refused to tenure his resignation and instead was fired by Yonkin for malfeasance and malpractice. Because he was asked to lie, and he still believes in the honor code honor code right so what bert ellis did you can say is stand up we we we bird ellis is who we thought bert ellis would be yeah and it's glen yonkin had to know that john blair adds as to creed deeds i'm curious i don't know of any legal authority that gives him the power to compel answers from uvaa he can file a foyer request like anyone else but i think the state senate

or a committee of Senate or a committee of the Senate will need to subpoena documents and witnesses. Again, I can't think of any legal authority that a single senator has to compel answers to his questions except for document requests under FOIA. That's from John Blair. He's in the game. He would know.

David Tuscano, yesterday in person to me, I'm going to reach out to David Tisano and see if David Tisconno will join us on the show to talk about this. I think David Tiscona would offer tremendous perspective. In fact, viewers and listeners, this is what I'm going to do. I will text David Tuscano when this show is over and ask him if he can join us on the I Love Seville show next week.

Tuscano told me in person yesterday, downtown Charlottesville, that Creed's absolutely has the authority to do this. You wondered the same question. Maybe there's some context that we're missing with your question to Tiscano. perhaps I'm just wondering I'll ask them we'll ask them in person on the show because he's a friend of the program

David Tiscano John Blair and David Tiscono are both too extremely both attorneys and I don't think Jim Hinchley's got comments here go ahead I don't think it's likely that one of them is wrong here I think maybe we're just missing some contacts okay I 100% agree I don't think I don't think

Tuscano or Blair are wrong we'll get Tiscano on the show in fact if someone can ping David Tiscano and let them know we're giving them props on the program right now. And John also says this, any document produced in the transaction of public business while Ryan was president is still subject to FOIA regardless of whether he resigned or not.

If the documents existed before he resigned, then they are subject to FOIA. So that goes to the question that you wondered. John, I got a follow-up question for you. The rector and vice rector currently, Judah, the rector is Rachel Sheridan, the vice rector is Porter Wilkinson. They're meeting with the DOJ prior to being on the board.

Is that FOIA? Can you FOIA that correspondence prior to being on the board? Why would you not be able to FOIA it? Because they weren't official board members yet. But you could still fore. Boya, I mean, it's a request for information, right? Do they have to turn over the information if they're not on the board yet? That's what I'm wondering.

Maybe Jim, that's what Jim Hingley is texting about. I'll get to Jim Hingley, his photo on screen. Smart people watching the program today. You guys make the program better. I'm by no means. This is by no means my professional skill set are Baileywick. But the viewers and listeners that are watching the program are. And I did not stay at a holiday and express last night either.

That's a commercial joke. Let's see. They were on the B-O-V in June. They had not taken office as record. Okay, so Jim Hingley is correcting me. I apologize. I stand corrected. I am absolutely incorrect.

Thank you, Jim Hingley. They had not taken office as rector and vice-rector until July. Sheridan appointed in 2023, Wilkinson appointed in 2024. So I stand 100% correct. Thank you, Jim Hingley. 100% corrected on that. On the B.O.V. then. This is why we have a show right now where we have smart people watching

that are holding us accountable. Thank you, Mr. Hingley. Thank you right there. So, absolutely foiable. Yeah. What Creed Eads is doing, I think, is asking very legitimate questions that we all want to know, right? to know, right? I mean, I haven't read all those questions. I'm sure. Somewhere in there, there's the information we'd all like to know. Janice Boyce Trevillian. Why didn't creededs go after the information about the shooting and other information at UVA unless this is political?

That's an interesting take. What would that information provide? The release of the report, I think, is what she's going for. The release of all of the information that was blacked out? Yeah, the redacted report. I think that's what she's saying. Why didn't creededs go after the redacted information in the report? I mean, yeah, there's a lot that he could have asked. So she's basically saying the only reason that he's doing this with Jim Ryan, the DOJ,

the B-O-V-U-V-A is because CREEDs is vehemently opposed to Trump and his administration. I don't know if... That's what I think she's alluding to. Is that what you're alluding to, JBT? I don't know if that holds water for me

because the whole reason for him writing this letter is to learn more about President Jim Ryan's resignation. I think that's the whole purpose of what he's doing. So I'm not sure I'm not sure how asking other questions about Jim Ryan

would be relevant, but I'm not sure what you're saying. But still, it's, I mean, yeah, everything. What are you saying? I'm saying, why would Creedids ask about the shooting? If his goal is to find out

why Jim Ryan resigned. Her point is, if his true motive is transparency, then that motive for transparency, that pursuit for transparency, would apply for other events that have been covered up. And one of the events that was covered up was the investigation and some of the details with the triple murder at UVA. I mean, one of the darkest days at UVA history, if not the darkest. And for comparison's sake, a triple murder, lack of better phrase, jumps Jim Ryan's resignation from a historical significant standpoint, does it not?

Maybe for us, but I don't see how that would hold true for creedes. Jim Hinchley says the release of the UVA, and he would know, the release of the UVA triple homicide report was controlled by the court. It is not political in response to Janice Bois Trevillian's comment. So, J.B.T., Janice Boyce-T., on I Love Seville, Facebook, Mr. Hingley, via text message to me, says the release of the UVA triple homicide report was controlled by the court, and it is not political. So answering Janus Boyce Trevillian's comments there. This is what we got to do.

This is what we got to do, because, frankly speaking, I'm being straightforward and genuine with everyone that's watching the program. I try to read all the stuff, so do you, all the news that's out there to prepare myself for this show. News junkie, I love reading. Even with reading all these news platforms every day, I genuinely feel a bit overwhelmed with this story of Jim Ryan's resignation. I feel overwhelmed with this Jim Ryan resignation story because I have a lot of, of questions. I'm really close to it. As a guy who went to UVA, his father went to UVA, his brother went to UVA, live in Charlestville, would love if our kids went to UVA. So perhaps how I'm

looking at this is bias or through a lens, even subconsciously or unconsciously, that's a biased viewpoint or lens. I also don't truly understand all this backroom wheeling and dealing that's happened. So I will do my best to try to get folks that are smarter than me on this show. And I think a good person to have on this program on this. And frankly, John Blair is a great guy to have on this program. Jim Hingley is a great guy to have on this program. I think John with his professional role with Stanton and Jim with his professional role with Almore County

would perhaps not be able to speak is freely on a show as someone like David Tuscano who is now retired and who I ran into yesterday and talked about this with him yesterday. So I will do my best, and I think he's willing to do it because he said yesterday he would come on the show. I will text him after the show and see if we can line up an interview for tomorrow. And when we line up that interview for tomorrow,

we'll promote the interview in advance and ask you the viewer and listener if you'd like to crowdsource any questions with us that we can ask David Tiscano. The first question we're going to ask him is the basic one. Does creed deeds have the authority to do this? And does UVA need to respond?

The second question we can ask them is, was this politically motivated what CREDEDs is doing with this investigation? Another question I'm going to ask them, what if UVA says we're not going to do anything, CREDEs? Even if you do have the authority, we're not going to give you anything by the 15th. UVA did that with the Department of Justice.

And last check, the DOJ has more clout than CREDIDS does in the Virginia State Senate. But it's not even UVA. It's two board of visitors members. Right. What if they say we're not even going to do anything? Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, these aren't, you know, these aren't, these aren't, these aren't you and I, normal, you know, normal schmows. These are, you know, I don't know what they're... Very sophisticated individuals. Yeah, and now they're getting a six-page letter with 46 questions. It sounds like something your teacher sends home with you in, in sixth grade.

Teachers would even do this kind of question after. A take-home quiz. And, yeah, I mean, are Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson going to, you know, going to zoom each other like half an hour every evening to suss out the answers to these 46 questions? John Blair says,

I have unbelievable respect for Delegate Tuscano. I do not think he and I, are in disagreement. Senator Deeds can conduct this investigation. However, I'm just pointing out that viewers and listeners should not be surprised if he just gets a FOIA response. UVA can answer his questions that aren't document requests, but I have a suspicion they won't do so.

Yeah. Appreciate that from John. We're going to ask these questions of Delegate Descano if he's willing to come on the show, which I think he will. crazy this story just is getting more

conspiracy more backroom wheelin and dealing more politically motivated more disingenuous it's almost been politically motivated more I just it's

I don't think it's close to going away no I'm surprised he's he's focused his spotlight on these two. It seems much simpler to just

ask Ryan himself. But of course, maybe this is It's easier for Creed's to ask these two on the B.O.V because they were appointed by Yon and the Republicans, where

Jim Ryan, asking Jim Ryan, is peppering the martyr, the metaphorical walk-on water guy. I think this is more visible. This is more public perception welcomed than going after Ryan who fell on the sword for the school. If Creedeeds goes after Ryan and ask him these questions, it's kicking a dog while it's down. But he wouldn't ask these 46 questions of President Ryan.

He could just ask what's the reason that you step down. But I think in this regard, Janus Boyce Trevillian is. probably correct. This is political. This is meant to be seen. It's meant to make the news as it has. Otherwise, he could just, I doubt there's a, I doubt there's a, what's the antagonistic relationship, if there is any relationship at all, but I doubt there's any antagonism between Creed's and Jim Ryan. He could just, just ask Jim Ryan? If he asked Jim Ryan, he comes across as a guy that's kicking a dog that's down.

Really? For asking a question, it doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be. If he goes after Jim Ryan, he goes after a guy that's beloved, where he's going after the Board of Visitors that is appointed by Yonkin and Republican, the opposite party of him. political as I stated next headline what do you got there have been

three letters sent to the board of visitors aside from from Creedede's letter since Ryan's resignation and a lot of people apparently are focusing

on focusing their questions on the B.O.V. We've got, this was from... The three letters are whose? The most recent letter was from 142 former professors of UVA. And the other two letters were from the general faculty council and the faculty senate. All, I believe, asking fairly similar questions, what happened? How are you involved?

and ultimately, why did Jim Ryan resign? The story's not going away. Nobody's asking Jim Ryan why he resigned. We know why. Why are you surprised by this? No, we don't. Why would they be asking questions if we knew? Because you're kicking a dog that's down.

You keep saying that, but I don't think asking Jim Ryan, he's... Okay, Judah, then why are they not asking Jim Ryan? These questions. What is your take on that? That's the question I just asked. Okay, so what is your take on that? I think there's a lot of politics involved, and a lot of people are trying to make the Board of Visitors look bad.

I think they definitely have a reason to ask the Board of Visitors. The Board of Visitors may have some answers here, but ultimately, I think it's nuts that, Nobody is asking the obvious question of Jim Ryan. Whoever asks the question of Jim Ryan? Looks like they're kicking a dog when he's down. Loses the perception game. So you're admitting that it is a perception game.

We all know that. We all know that. If you go and ask a board these questions, you're asking what could be seen as an institution or people that Yonken appointed. Right? People tied to Trump. People tied to a Raticane DEI. People tie to the bull in the China shop. Right? But if you go after Jim Ryan, then you look like you're going after the guy that is the one who walked on water and fell in the sword to keep the money coming to UVA that took the arrow in the chest himself, then allow the employer to take it. He's the martyr. And whoever attacks the martyr is the one that's going to lose the equity of public perception.

I'm not sure why you keep characterizing questions as attacks. Because questions are another way of using the word investigation. Questions like creed deed. Do you, do you, do you sincerely mean this? What he's doing, what creed deeds is doing, do you characterize those as just questions? Or do you characterize that as an investigation? I would characterize it as an investigation, but do you honestly think that he would ask the exact same questions of Jim Ryan?

There is not the antagonism between a Democratic senator and a largely, if not totally Republican Board of Visitors, that there would be, there's not the same antagonism if Cree Deeds were asking a question of Jim Ryan. He wouldn't phrase 46 questions in very, what's the, it wouldn't seem like he was grilling a prisoner. Okay, the 46 questions he's asked of the rector and the vice rector, would you say that those questions are antagonistic in their approach?

Or would you say those questions are looking for the most information possible? I'd guess that there's some mix of both of those. Okay, I'll give you that. The questions that were asked of the rector and vice rector, wouldn't they be the same questions that he would ask Jim Ryan? No. No, no, definitely not because... You don't think they would be somewhat similar questions?

What information would Jim Ryan have on any of the Board of Visitors' meetings with... Did the Board of Visitors tell you, Jim Ryan, you need to resign so we could maintain the federal funding from the federal government? That's the question. Is that not the whole pursuit? Is the whole pursuit of what Creed Eads is trying to do

say, federal government, did the federal government pressure a Jim Ryan resignation by leveraging federal funding? And to get that answer from Jim Ryan, you don't need 46 questions. You just need one. You phrased it very well. Deep Throat says, my take is they have already spoken to Jim Ryan.

Don't you think so? What Ryan told them is what is informing the questions in these letters. They just had the conversation with him privately. Interesting. So now they're fishing for actionable information from the Board of Visitors. that makes that makes sense that makes sense i mean let's have that conversation with tuscano and he can speak very freely georgia gilmer says why not foyer ryan's resignation letter and asked if he had to sign a non-disclosure agreement philip dowell says in my opinion all this is politically

motivated and planned out once trump administration came out when they asked for ryan to step down. They want to make Trump look bad like most Democrats do. We've got TV, radio, and print watching us here. Constance Wyatt. The Titan of Troy's Queen is watching the program. Barbara Becker-Tilly, it's all political and always has been. Janice Bois Trovillian, I think it's to make the board look bad. You don't want to tarnish Ryan if he doesn't answer. Especially if the plan is, is for Jim Ryan to be reappointed president.

If the plan is for Ryan to be reappointed as president of UVA, you have to leave the martyr in a state of martyrdom. That's fair. You cannot have anything negative stick to the martyr if the plan is to reappoint him. And if the Democrat approach is to take Jim Ryan and put him back into Cars Hill, then goodness gracious, that would be an incredible story or an incredible win for the Democrats.

No doubt. That would basically mean the Democrats staring Trump and the DOJ in the face and doing the exact opposite of what they're saying. That would be something that could be touted in the next election. Look how we screwed over Trump. Look how what we did in standing up to Trump and the Republicans. You had one other thing that you wanted to add, and then we had to go to the next topic at 118. Goodness, we've gone.

No, you're good? You're good on that? Yeah. I've gone 48 minutes. I'll text Descano as soon as the show is over. All right, next topic we've got to get to. What's the next headline if you could put that on screen, please? Tourism. All right, this is a complete opposite type of headline and much more in my lane of content.

tourism ladies and gentlemen is absolutely exploding has exploded yet again in 2024 it was a record year for tourism visitors of the commonwealth of virginia spent a record 96 million per day yeah 96 million per day or 35.1 billion dollars in visitor spending in 2024 yeah a 5.4 increase over 2023 when the number was 33.3 billion. Absolutely an insane amount of money. Overnight visitation to Virginia increased by 1 million people to 44.7 million, 44.4.4.7 million visitors in 2024, up from 43.6 million in 2020. That surpasses pre-pandemic levels for the first time. So not only has it recovered since COVID, it's at a record-sating amount. just goes to show people are leaving their houses

which goes to show that the pandemic in a lot of ways is behind us but in many other ways we're still dealing with it education you're still dealing with it hybrid remote work return to office you're still dealing with it real estate's good god still dealing with it maybe that's a perfect segue into the real estate question if you put that lower third on screen

why is the inventory not moving as much locally. There are price cuts happening left and right. Now there's still pockets of Central Virginia where that's not happening. You list a home from the Lewis Mountain neighborhood to the

240-250 split. The home moves. And in some cases the home is moving above asking price with multiple offer scenarios. But in many other pockets of Charlottesville, Almore County, and Central Virginia, price cuts are happening left and right. You're seeing

in the city. You're seeing it even in Western Almorough. I'm seeing price cuts in old trail. You're seeing modifications and cuts happening left and right. I just have the question, what's the difference here? The interest rate environment's the same. What is the difference and why the inventory is not moving and why the price cuts are happening? It's a good question. I mean, some people might say the prices of houses have gone up, but they've been going up. Everybody knows that. Anybody that's talking to a realtor is being fed the advice to that the best time to buy is yesterday. Second best time is today.

Right. Are the sellers still out of touch with the current market? the home, the buyers are more discerning than ever because the rate environment is still somewhat high. And the prices are high. And the prices are at an all-time high. So the location and the condition of the property is paramount. Paramount.

On top of that, finding someone to do the work on your house is challenging. Because if you're buying a house that does need work, a lot of the quality folks that do the work are months out before they can help you. Why are the price cuts happening and why is the inventory the DoM getting longer? That's what I ask. That's a great question for Real Talk with Keith Smith, Friday's at 10.15 a.m. on the I Love Seville Network. Next headline, is that Fontaine Avenue? Yes.

All right. So I'm going to ask you the viewer and listener to this question. Guadalajara restaurant on Fontaine Avenue is for sale for $1,400,000. It also includes the Atlas Coffee building. One million 400,000 asks for the Guadalajara and the Atlas Coffee. Who's the buyer for this? What's the best use for this? What's going to happen? Is this UVA chomping at the bit to buy that? Will UVA buy this? That's a great question. UVA bought the Moes Barbecue real estate, the landlord of Moes Barbecue on Ivy Road. We helped broker the sale of that restaurant from Mike and Ashley Abrams to Derek Bond, who also owns the melting pot.

Derek Bond is a fantastic restaurateur, fantastic restaurateur. Moes Barbecue is crushing it. His landlord is UVA, the UVA Foundation. they purchased this restaurant to essentially play Monopoly with its pursuit of Ivy Square Shopping Center purchase I think it was like $22 million they bought Ivy Square Shopping Center where Foods of All Nations is. Moes Barbecue is right next to it

and they're playing monopoly with connecting an academic village from the Boershead to grounds proper as we know. Is Moes included, is the property that Moes is on included in what the, what is it, the UVA Foundation that doesn't have to pay taxes, or is that, I'm just curious because I don't know that UVA has a whole lot of businesses on property like this that would normally, like whoever's, if it was originally owned by the owner of the, of, by Derek, he would obviously be paying. property taxes to I'm sure that's probably Alvara County. Is that now off the

tax rules? Foundation pays taxes UVA does not. Okay. And is this owned by the foundation? Believe this is owned by the foundation. Very confident it does. All right. Sorry that question took so long. Yeah. Ivy Square Shopping Center taxes. Okay. Gotcha. In regards to Guadalajara Fontaine and Atlas, does

UVA buy it to connect the dots with Paul Manning Biotech Institute? Or does it stay a restaurant? Is this a restaurant owner operator buying this? Is this someone to buy it to knock it down

and build something in its place? Fantastic location. No doubt. The 1-4 seems reasonable to me. Curious to see what happens to it. I see a much slimmer buyer pool for owner-operator. I see a maybe slightly more robust buyer pool for a buyer who then leases to a restaurant owner.

I see potentially a slightly larger buyer pool for a buyer who then pursues another. opportunity for the location because the dirt's the value and I see maybe the biggest buyer pool with UVA pursuing it the biggest likelihood with UVA pursuing it very interesting anything else on the docket nothing on our list Friday tomorrow at 1015 is a big Q&A, big debate, Q&A with Missile and Smith. Yeah, no doubt. Scott Smith and Fred Missal. Are you, I'm intrigued by that. Yeah. I wish we had more of these.

Yeah, well, that's, I should, I should put more effort into lining these up. I mean, that's not on you. That's on me. Oh, I mean, it's, I don't think it's on you either. I mean, it is. I just don't see there being a lot of, a lot of debate on, around our, our political appointees in central Virginia. Do the viewers and listeners want more content or more shows tied to us bringing guests?

Like genuine question for the viewers and listeners. Do you like it with Jude and I doing the show and talking about stuff and featuring your, opinions and takes, viewers and listeners? Or would you like to see us welcoming more guests on the show? I open to the feedback. In some ways,

getting the guests on the show makes the show easier for us. In other ways, getting the guests on the show makes the show also more challenging because you're booking guests and trying to work schedules, etc. I wasn't trying to suggest that we need to have guests all the time. I just like the fact that

every once in a while we can have some political opponents or people running against each other. I would love if we had contested elections all the time because it would give us more content to talk about. One of the golden ages, one of the best times to do this show

was when Allison Spillman and Meg Bryce were going toe to toe for the at-large seat and the school board. That was content for days. All right. Wednesday, no Thursday edition. of the show. Thank you kindly for joining us. He's Judah Wick Howard. He does a fantastic job.

My name is Jerry Miller, 10.15 a.m. tomorrow, guys, for Smith and Missal. And that I'll text David Tuscano right now. Thank you for joining us so long. Thank you.