The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - CVille Filing For Worrell To Reconsider Judgement; Get To Know UVA's Acting President

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the I Love Seville show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Good Thursday afternoon to you. Thank you kindly for joining us on the program. A lot we want to cover today. We will talk real estate development with Home Depot, primed and positioned to be a key developer of a very important gateway in Amaro County. Home Depot, by now you've heard, opening in the Fashion Square Mall location, a redevelopment
Starting point is 00:00:34 project that includes demolishing the former Sears and creating 134,262 square feet of home improvement store space. We're very close to opening. Have you driven near, around, or close to Home Depot, viewers and listeners? If you're in that area, I encourage you to do so. It is very close to opening. This is a significant project.
Starting point is 00:01:02 $26 million invested into the property, more than 100 new jobs, tax breaks and Home Depot trusted or accounted to, relied to redevelop the old Red Lobster restaurant as well. This gateway, a prime gateway into Alamaro County from the northern feeder pattern. I'm going to ask you, is this project as significant a project that Alamaro County has seen in some time and the reliance on Home Depot to make this gateway a thing of improved planning? What's your take on that? How do you stand on that?
Starting point is 00:01:47 That conversation on today's show. We're gonna talk on the program, ladies and gentlemen, about Winsome Earl Sears, a governor that has a new campaign manager. Some would say it's eyebrow raising to replace your campaign manager just a couple of months before a November governor election, but that's what the Republican candidate has done.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We'll have that conversation on today's show. I will make a crystal ball prediction. If you watch the program, we feel our crystal ball is pretty darn accurate. From my standpoint, Spamburger looks like a cruise control double digit percentage point victor in this governor's race. Luna Labs is expanding. I woke up to an email from Conan Owen, the CEO of Sir Speedy, about the expansion plans for Luna Labs in the city. Twenty new jobs created from Luna Labs as it expands. This is a pretty big deal for a company that is a launch pad for early stage biotech and defense ideas. Biotechnology in
Starting point is 00:02:56 the city of Charlottesville and Alamaro County, remember those phrases, those terms, that sentence, biotechnology in the city of Charlottesville and Almaro County and the impact that biotechnology will have in the next 24 months. We'll unpack that on the Thursday edition of the I Love Seaville Show. We're going to talk artificial intelligence and whether we think, you think, that AI will make Charlottesville, Almarmar County, and Central Virginia a better place or a worse place. I'm torn on this topic. Judah Wickower, a two-shot. Studio camera and a two-shot as we welcome you to the program. Good as gracious, the governor, the candidate for governor, replaces her campaign manager. She handpicks an initial campaign manager that's a preacher that doesn't
Starting point is 00:03:47 have any politics experience and now has to make an announcement that there's a new campaign manager just a few months before an election. That is not a good headline for a party that is embattled at best. I continue to be pestered and peppered with requests from John Reed's campaign for the candidate to join us on this program. I'm not sure how I feel about that after being stood up by candidate Reed when turmoil hit his campaign. Now they want to come back on after standing us up 24 hours before the interview.
Starting point is 00:04:28 A lot we're going to cover on the show. What intrigues you the most and why? I'm definitely intrigued by the fact that Winsome Earl Sears has been using a campaign manager with no political experience. I feel like that's a pretty major misstep. Faux pas. misstep, mistake. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And I'd love to know more about Home Depot and the plans that surround the upcoming area there. I know they've got at least I've read about some pretty interesting ideas but I haven't seen anything that makes me think that anyone has a solid plan in place. Oh, I mean, massive hardware store. 100 plus new jobs. But they're talking about a like
Starting point is 00:05:25 mixed use green spaces, walking, business, housing. Which would be revitalizing the former Red Lobster. Yeah. That too. A lot of wasted space there. I'm sure there is. We'll talk about it on the show. The city basically begging Judge Worrell to reconsider a judgment. Yeah. Gentry lock on their knees, begging for deadline misdeadline forgiveness, citing past legal precedent where the judge did not need to toss the case because of this misfiling deadline. This story does not go away, Judah. What do you make of this? I mean, there's not really anything else they could have done.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They're obviously, they obviously have no intention of changing the zoning code. So they're just going to throw everything they have at getting it reinstated. I agree with you. I think they have some last steps. The last steps are go to the judge beg for forgiveness. The problem with the judge offering forgiveness in this case is it would further cloud the conflict of interest storyline. If he, he's tossed the case because of a misfiling deadline. The plaintiffs celebrate it. Now the city goes to the judge and say, please forgive us for missing this deadline. There's past precedent where you could basically allow this to move forward. If the judge allows
Starting point is 00:07:25 basically allow this to move forward. If the judge allows it to move forward and second guess his first decision, plaintiffs, people like you and me, folks in this community will point to conflict of interest. He lives in the city. He owns a home in the city. His wife is a housing advocate. She pushed for the new zoning ordinance prior to the new zoning ordinance even becoming a reality. I don't really think that argument holds up anymore. Whether you have a change of heart on this? No, I don't think I've ever had a particular opinion about it.
Starting point is 00:08:02 There's a look, there's a, you know, it's, it might not be the best look that his wife is a zoning advocate, but the fact of the matter is, I believe he's shown himself to be fairly impartial here. And he's a judge and that's his job. And if, if, I think if there were a chance that this entire thing would be thrown out or taken to a higher court because of his association with his wife, I think we would have heard more about it before now. I think at this point the judgments that he's made show that he's fairly impartial about this and isn't afraid to make a decision based on which side of the law lands on.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'll give you my take in a matter of moments. Put the lower third on screen. First we'll give some love to Conan Owen and Sir Speedy. Sir Speedy of Central Virginia is locally owned and operated by a Darden School graduate named Conan Owen. If you have a logo they can find an application for it. This banner directly behind me, the step and repeat banner cursey of Sir Speedy, window decals, signage, branding, graphic design, direct mail, you name it Sir Speedy can do it, locally owned and operated by Conan Owen. In Arlington County, Judah, multiple judges
Starting point is 00:09:32 recused themselves from presiding over a radical zoning ordinance case because of conflict of interest of owning a home in Arlington County, right? In this case, in Charlottesville, the judge owns a home in Arlington County. Right? In this case, in Charlottesville, the judge owns a home in the city and on top of that, he's got a wife who's a huge housing advocate, housing evangelists, housing activists that's trying to push the new zoning ordinance through. If there was conflict of interest in Arlington strictly from owning a home in Arlington County, housing activists that's trying to push the new zoning ordinance through. If there was conflict of interest in Arlington strictly from owning a home in Arlington County,
Starting point is 00:10:10 well you have that in Charlottesville. Then you have the additional wrinkle of the spouse pushing what the judge is presiding over through. So do we then say that any judgment he makes is suspect? I've said that all along. All along I've said, all along I've said he should have recused himself from this. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:35 All along I've said that. But he hasn't. And we've got a lawyer on city council. Defense attorney. Yeah. And there's no outcry. There's no outcry from City Council. There's no outcry from, you know, I just, sure. It is an argument that he may not be impartial.
Starting point is 00:11:11 that he may not be impartial. Does that throw uncertainty on the current judgment? I'll leave that for the public to decide. Let's go to comments that are already coming in quickly. Number one in the family, Deep Throat. His photo on screen. He says, I do not understand the city's legal strategy. Why motion for reconsideration? Right now the city can try to simply re-pass the ordinance. The court has made no factual determinations. But if the city wins the motion for reconsideration, that would just mean a trial in a year. For the next year, what developer would put a shovel in the ground with a trial pending? A trial could end in a judgment that makes it
Starting point is 00:11:52 substantially harder for the city to simply re-pass the ordinance. Not to mention the fact that Worrell is a prickly fellow, very unlikely to grant the request, and much more likely to become annoyed with Gentry Lock and the city. But then again, Deep Throat says, the city's legal strategy has never made sense. Deep Throat adds, Jerry is right that the potential conflict applies either way, world comes down. You can say he is biased because of his wife's advocacy, but even if he judges for the plaintiffs,
Starting point is 00:12:25 you could say he was overreacting to avoid the perception of bias. That's my point. He's in a terrible spot. And he put himself in this spot by not doing what the judges did in Arlington County. He's in a lose-lose position. The biggest loss or the biggest lose position would be him saying to the city, to Gentry Lock, to the plaintiffs, OK, I've second-guessed myself. I'll give you grace and forgiveness with this misfiling deadline. We can proceed forward.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Then we don't know until 2026. Well, I think Deep Throat is right in that that would be the biggest loss for everyone involved. That would be... Because then, like he said, right now the default judgment isn't about whether or not the zoning code is legal. It's about a misfiling deadline.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. And, yeah, if the judge decides to let them go ahead, then we have potentially a year more of court cases, uncertainty, and the city risks, like he said, the eventual judgment being, you know, throwing out the zoning code because of its legality, not just because of a, you know, because of a misfiling. And now they're back to square one where they can't just try to repass the zoning code. They've got to fundamentally change it. That's why I said earlier. Which I think they should do anyways.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We both think they should anyway. Take what you've learned in a year and a half, go back to the drawing board. Doesn't mean you have to scrap the entire thing. Learn from it. Rewrite the parts that are... Radical. Infuriating. Go to the plaintiffs that are suing you and tying you up in court and ask them what is
Starting point is 00:14:22 it that you want from us that will help you reconsider this lawsuit? This is just basic business. Go to the people that are in opposition to you and figure out what they want and give them part of it so you can get what you want and everyone wins. Everyone wins. It's baffling to me what's happening here. And the longer this stays
Starting point is 00:14:48 in the news cycle on our binds on this program where all of print, radio and television is watching us right now in local media, the longer this is going to cause uncertainty for developers. And I'm still baffled that in a year and a half, not a single person has had a thought as to how this could be written better. Yeah. And I don't put this at the feet of counsel. I put this at the feet of staff. Counsel relies on staff for guidance here.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah. Because they're not all zoning code experts. Are they? Should they be? But are they? »» I mean, we can take a look at the five council members. I'm fairly certain that ‑‑ »» None of them are.
Starting point is 00:15:33 »» They may have done some reading. »» Elliot Harding watching the program. Defense attorney, his photo on screen. Aaron King, welcome to the broadcast. Bob Schade, hello. Thank you for watching. Lottie Murray, Georgia Gilmer, Kevin Yancey, Chad Wood, Greg Leske, J. Who Martin. Elliott Harding says this, the biggest issue is the outside council that blew the filings. Cities should
Starting point is 00:15:55 call that into question and seek alternative representation in my opinion. I'm most interested in the outcome. Do we expect the city to enforce a less inclusive code against developers who relied on the code that the city itself wants to have in place? I'll give it to you again, Judah. Do we expect the city to enforce a less inclusive code against developers who relied on the code that the city itself wants to have in place? Elliot, we love when you watch the program. Nora Gaffney, thank you for watching the show. Believe talented realtor Josh White watching the program. Look, the longer the story stays in the news cycle, the more uncertainty is created.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The more uncertainty that is created, the less likely development will happen. The less likely development will happen means housing prices will continue to escalate. There's a rental property on Perry Drive in North downtown across from the baseball field, across from the baseball stadium that's next to the county office building. You know where I'm talking about? Yeah. The baseball stadium next to the county office building. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:07 The baseball stadium next to the county office building. Across from the baseball stadium is a road called Perry Drive. There's a duplex there. 20 years ago, my girlfriend at the time rented that duplex with a roommate. I would stay in there all the time at her house. Fantastic duplex. You
Starting point is 00:17:25 drive by this Perry Drive duplex now and it's been completely gutted. Completely gutted. It's been revamped on the outside, remodeled completely to the inside. It looks beautiful this duplex. The rental requirements for this duplex which is super tiny, two bedrooms and one bath, very tiny kitchen, we're talking barely 1000 square feet, probably less than that. The rental requirements for this is an income, combined income of well over $8000
Starting point is 00:18:02 for one side of the duplex, for a two bedroom, one bath. They're asking for nearly $3,000 a month in rent. They want fantastic credit score. They want combined income of over $8K a month. They want all the I's dotted and the T's crossed. You will have more of these asks and more of these requests and more of this type of housing stock unless something is done. And the longer this story is in the news cycle, the longer we're gonna have housing that's expensive like this.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Citi can't get out of its own way. It's unfortunate. Home Depot headline, put that on screen. John Blair's got a comment on this. I will mention one more time on Home Depot, I would encourage anyone in central Virginia, Charlottesville or Amarillo County to drive by the Home Depot. It is very, very close to opening right now. It's looking good. Have you been recently?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, not too long ago. It looks phenomenal. And A, I hope Home Depot raises the bar for all hardware locally. A, I encourage you to shop locally like a Martin's Hardware. B, the lows across the street on Route 29 is god awful. If you've shopped at a lows, the lows on Route 29,
Starting point is 00:19:30 you know what I'm talking about. The customer service is terrible, the return policy on equipment that breaks is horrendous. Home Depot across the street competition is great for all of us and is gonna force lows to raise its game. We're talking 134,000 square foot home improvement store, 26 million plus invested into this location,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and more than 100 new jobs, and it's a couple of weeks away from opening. John Blair's comment, his photo on screen. One of the more interesting aspects of the Home Depot project is that at one time, the idea of redevelopment included Fashion Square and Almaro Square as well as some other nearby parcels. Given Almaro Square's reinvigoration and Home Depot's arrival, I have to think that the idea of a large mixed-use community is scotched.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Also, give the owners of Almaro Square some credit. Five years ago, it felt semi-abandoned with fresh market leaving. Now it's got a lot fewer vacancies. All of Route 29 has improved its vacancies. During the pandemic, COVID, and coming out of the pandemic, Route 29 was a ghost town. Rio Hill had points of concern. The Rio Hill shopping center. Seminole Square had points of concern. Alvaro Square points of concern. The Rio Hill shopping center. Seminole Square had points of concern. Al Marl Square points of concern. Fashion Square mall was a ghost town. Shoppers World had points of concern. Look at 29 now. It's completely revitalized. Seminole Square has done a complete about face. You have Pickleball, Epicenter, Seaville Smash, very near opening. We did that interview
Starting point is 00:21:08 on the show a couple of weeks ago. You have what's Dr. Halpert's business, Coco's Adventure Central, an indoor entertainment center geared for kids, going to open next to Seaville Smash. You have Home Depot opening. It's done a completely about face Route 29. And it's going to even get stronger once Home Depot finishes its project. It's going to revitalize that entire small area. Red Lobster. And I'm going to ask the viewers and listeners this question.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Is there a more important gateway into Alamaro County than that Rio 29 gateway? That Rio 29 gateway into Alamaro County from the north into the urban ring, is it not the most significant? It's more significant than the Pantops Gateway, right? East of town. Yep. Southeast of town, what is it? The Fifth Street, Avon extended,
Starting point is 00:22:11 it's more significant than that. West of town, what's the entry point there? Ivy, there's not really any development there. No. More significant than North Garden, Pippin Hill, Crossroads. That's the most significant gateway into Alamaro County. And look at what it's done in the last five years from ghost town to revitalization. Pretty significant. Got to give props where props are due to supervisors, Lottie Murray, maybe planning commissioners, to real estate owners. Bill McChesney watching
Starting point is 00:22:57 the program. He says I've gone to Zion's crossroads and Ruckersville lows with good results. I think the Zion's Crossroads lows is the best of all of them. And there's some anthropology or sociology experiment there. The Zion's Crossroads lows is staffed with country folk. And the customer service you get from the Zion's Crossroads lows and the experience and know-how and
Starting point is 00:23:25 nuance is vastly more impressive than the lows on Route 29. Interesting. I don't know the Rutgersville lows. I never go that way, but I can tell you from many experiences that Route 29 lows and Zion's Crossroads lows are completely different. Elliott Harding adds this, I'm excited for Lowe's to have some competition. I'd say it's the most important gateway because it's my barrier of how far north I'm really willing to go. Yes, important as an entry point, but a lot of locals hate going north of Rio Road. I don't go north of Barracks Road. That's fair. I try not to go north of Barracks Road folks. Well you're on the other side.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Ivy side of town. Yeah. Ivy side of town. And I'm very, maybe linear is not the right word, but very specific in my travel during, especially during the work day. You're very as the crow flies aware. 100%. I've just not wasted my time doing stuff that I don't need to do that's taken me away from
Starting point is 00:24:28 work on a Monday through Friday standpoint. Dave Butler watching the program, this might be Dave's first comment. He says, Waynesboro Lowe's Home Depot set the standard for customer service. 100%. I think there is some kind of anthropology or sociology study waiting to happen where Brad Wilcox, the UVA sociology department, although he focuses on marriage, but some kind of sociologist says, why is the customer service at Lowe's, Zion's Crossroads or Lowe's Waynesboro vastly superior to the customer service at Lowe's Route 29?
Starting point is 00:25:02 It's the hiring pool. Could be. Next headline, what do you got, Judah Wickhauer? Get to know UVA's acting president. There's a great Q&A on UVA Today on JJ Wagner. You're talking about, I mean, goodness gracious, what a power player. JJ Wagner is the acting UVA president.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They ask JJ, what does JJ stand for? She says JJ stands for Jennifer Genie. She says, in my second year at Penn State there were at least four Jennifer's living on the same floor in our dorm. Back in those days we had a communal phone that everyone on the floor used to call home. When my dad would call and ask to speak to Jennifer, he got tired of having to explain which one. So he started asking for JJ and it stuck. Penn State undergrad. JJ, a nickname given to her by her dad when he's trying to call his daughter when she's in the dorm.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I didn't know that. They asked her, what are exactly the duties of an acting president? She answers, UVA has a continuity of operations plan which goes into effect in the absence of the university president. The plan designates the executive vice president and chief operating officer to serve as acting president
Starting point is 00:26:33 until the board of visitors selects an interim president. These are my words now. UVA has a deadline of five o'clock tomorrow where the public can help nominate the interim president for UVA. I continue to push Ken Elzinga as the interim president. So right now JJ is filling a role. Listen to some of the responsibilities she has. She's managing a $6.5 billion operating budget. has. She's managing a $6.5 billion operating budget. She has not just the acting president role but she is a role as executive vice president and COO. Again, the $6.5 billion yearly operating
Starting point is 00:27:20 budget. She leads the team to oversee a 2 billion with a B capital construction program. She administers human resources and payroll services for 30,000 employees. I mean, this is so significant, this power player. And I will say this, she's been thrown into the fire here at UVA after spending 20 years working in state government in Delaware before moving into over to higher education. And props to JJ, I think she's done this with grace. Yeah, sounds like she's got a firm grasp on how to handle things. I like that she mentions that she was a volleyball player and she's used to team sports and that this is no different. It's just a chance to
Starting point is 00:28:15 pull in, pull in staff members that can help her accomplish the the tasks that she needs accomplished and and delegate authority. Her passions are hiking with her family, volunteering at the Wildlife Center of Virginia in Waynesboro. Her favorite animals to care for are baby bats and owls. care for are baby bats and owls. The Q&A really humanized J.J. Wagner. I enjoyed the read. It's on news.virginia.edu, ladies and gentlemen. I thought it was a humanizing read.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And before we get off this topic, we'll highlight yet again that five of UVA's eight most important positions, six actually with Kola Chihi and the UVA Foundation as John Blair pointed out earlier this week, are currently vacant. President and Provost, CEO of UVA Health, Dean of the Medical School, CEO of the hospital, Kola Chihi's position at the Foundation, six of the eight most important positions are currently vacant. And still the Board of Visitors of UVA has not held an in-person meeting. Troublingly silent. What is going on? Next headline, what do you got? Let's see, Luna Labs. Guys, we've emphasized to you over the last probably three years coming out of the pandemic we started emphasizing that biotechnology was going to dramatic
Starting point is 00:29:53 dramatically revolutionize Charlottesville and Alamaro County and it's a hundred percent proving to be correct. I am being told by people with checkbooks in their hands that biotechnology and data science will uptick the population somewhere between 5 and 8,000 people. Incremental new people outside this area with six figure plus salaries. There was a ribbon cutting with Luna Labs. Juan Diego Wade, the mayor, was at the ribbon cutting. This ribbon cutting, ladies and gentlemen, happened yesterday. And at this ribbon cutting, Luna Labs CEO James Garrett indicated that how many new jobs are going to be hired, Judah? 20 new jobs from Luna Labs and its expansion. The expansion and the space expansion is going to support drug
Starting point is 00:30:55 delivery for cancer treatments, PTSD diagnostics and military tools. They're also working with city and state programs, lunar labs and universities to strengthen the hiring and training in Charlottesville. When the biotech institute, the Paul Manning on Fontaine is finished, you're going to see an ecosystem not just of academics and biotechnology, but you're going to see an ecosystem of private business latching on to the talent coming out of the biotech institute, the Paul Manning namesake institute. And there are also connections between the biotech and defense industries.
Starting point is 00:31:38 100%. Including Luna Labs. And complementary synergies with biotechnology and data science and the defense sector. This is going to very quickly be a top five economy driver. Next headline, what do you got? AstraZeneca. That's your headline. Yeah. We've got AstraZeneca bringing somewhere around 50 billion dollars to to Virginia. There is still some question about where
Starting point is 00:32:18 they they're going to to land. Yonkin has sealed a deal with AstraZeneca on building a factory, but there we're not sure if it's going if it's coming to Charlottesville, going to Richmond, going to Petersburg. Still it's a definitely a major major investment in Virginia. What interests you the most? I mean money, bringing money to our to our state, bringing bringing just like Luna Labs bringing innovation, bringing jobs. AstraZeneca a British, multinational pharmaceutical and biotechnology company. Next headline, what do you got? Let's see, Dominion. Dominion is asking for a special asking for a special for special data center rates. Anything that Dominion asked for break wise relief wise, whoever they ask of that break or relief should immediately say no and
Starting point is 00:33:34 not even consider what they have to say. Are you sure? Set the table. Well, as we've spoken, I was, we've spoken about before, data centers are, Virginia is the data center center of the United States. The data center capital of the world. Yeah. Of the actual world.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There are more data centers in Northern Virginia than anywhere in the world. Because of the connection at Virginia Beach, all the data flows through Virginia from across the ocean. So we have a massive number of data centers, and it's growing. And everybody wants to build them. And the problem is that for the places where they're built, it is, in one regard. An enormous water suck. Well, no, I was gonna say it's a financial benefit due to the way that data centers are taxed. It's a huge tax revenue source. Yeah. They
Starting point is 00:34:41 don't employ a lot of people. Because they don't employ a lot of people, they're not utilizing or they're not demoralizing or taxing roads or infrastructure schools. They just open up a wallet and give whatever jurisdiction they're in a lot of tax revenue. it's outsized proportionally because it's not based on area. It's based on the amount of what, technology that's inside the area. And so, you know, for every, what do you call them? For every server mainframe that they have in there, it ticks up how much tax revenue they pay. The problem is, as you mentioned, water and electricity. And oftentimes that comes at the cost of the people living there. It says Northern Virginia Electric Cooperative serves more than 180,000 customers in Prince
Starting point is 00:35:48 William County and six other localities, but they've raised their rates twice this year to recover the additional costs of importing power because of the data demand, the data center demand for electricity. So in this case, while I'm mostly with you on denying Dominion whatever they're asking for, are we sure that that's the right thing to do here? If they can get special rates that require the data center to pay for the excess in electricity. Does that not take some of the pressure off the rest of us? And potentially prevent, hopefully prevent Dominion
Starting point is 00:36:38 from raising rates? I am of the mindset with people or entities like Dominion that if you give a little, they'll take a lot. I'm with you. Dominion is the fox in the hen house. But they're, yeah, but they're in the hen house and there's no way you're getting them out. This is a fox that's has this for an allergy. It's a fox that's eaten so many so many hens and eggs that it's too fat to get back out the door. Geez Louise! Dirty Curdy, Curtis Shaver says the Lowe's in Ruckersville is way better than the Charlottesville Lowe's.is shoots us a text, says he's listening to the program right now from the beach. We have tremendous respect for Chief Kochis.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Enjoy the vacation. Yeah, definitely. You've made the community a better place. I'm torn on the data center. The folks at Louisa County are saying no more data centers now. The folks where? In Louisa County are saying no more data centers. Because they're probably looking at what we're looking at and whether it's water, power, or just light pollution or you know cutting down however many acres of trees you would need to fit one of
Starting point is 00:38:08 these things in there. It's an imposition. Right. Next headline. What do you got? Earl Sears. I mean, I want to spend... Philip Reese sends me this text message. I fully agree. He's from the escape rooms. Oh, yeah. Philip, we need to get you back on the program. It was great conversating with you the other day. He says, I fully agree with Judah. Residents should not have to pay higher electricity rates because of these data centers exceedingly high use of electricity.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Careful with Dominion though. I know, I know, but what's the alternative? Unlocked history escape rooms are from Philip Reese's family business. Great guy. Very reasonable man. With Winsome Earl Sears, I want to spend a short time on this because this is more of a statewide headline. But I think the viewers and listeners should know this.
Starting point is 00:39:27 She just replaced your campaign manager. The campaign manager she replaced, this is the Republican candidate running for governor on a ticket that is in absolute shambles. The lieutenant governor was extorted by the current governor with gay sex pics and phony dating websites and phony social media accounts, burner accounts. Literally that happened. I don't think they were sex pics. They were sex picks. I think they were sex picks. No, I think the three pictures that they had were him at a gay pride parade. There were photos that were threatened to be released beyond that. Okay. The candidate
Starting point is 00:40:19 for governor, Witsam Earl Sears, just now replaced her campaign manager. We find out the current campaign man, or the first campaign manager, was a preacher from a church with no... A pastor with no political anything. This is ridiculous. I think she used him thinking that he would help her win over black neighborhoods. We are 100 days away, 110 days away from election day. Three and a half months. And she's replacing her campaign manager after realizing her campaign manager was Ill-suited to the incompetent. I wouldn't say incompetent and she was It says here
Starting point is 00:41:17 Earl Sears low-key campaign has included the focus on black churches Where some Republican oper Republican operatives believed that she would win over enough Virginians to make the difference. Jason Noble, his photo on screen, he says, her campaign has been terrible thus far. It cannot get any worse. When is the last time you have seen a ticket,
Starting point is 00:41:42 the top of the ticket be this bad. The governor, the candidate for governor is going through a campaign manager fiasco. She's being out raised on the fundraising circuit. Was it 27 million to 11 million? Something like that, yeah. Spamberger is out raising her, what's the exact number? Is it 27 million to 11 million? I believe that's correct. Okay. She's replacing her campaign manager three months and change before the election. The lieutenant governor John Reed, his campaign was extorted by the current governor Glenn Yonkin because they didn't want John Reed running. They wanted a guy from Northern Virginia to run.
Starting point is 00:42:28 The guy from Northern Virginia had to step aside because he got sick. So Reed, with no competition, wins the primary because there's no one to run against him. This is all happening at a time where Virginia's primary voter base, Northern Virginia, is extremely anti-Republican because what Donald Trump has done with government cuts and how it's impacted every Tom, Dick and Harry in Northern Virginia who relies on the government
Starting point is 00:43:02 to pay their bills. I will say this again, in November, it is going to be such a blue sweep. Does seem likely. And that Spamburger is going to beat Winston Earl Sears by many double digit percentage points. Next headline, what do you got? Is AI going to make Seville a better or worse place? Do you have a take on this?
Starting point is 00:43:38 I have very little faith that we're going to use AI in a way that benefits enough people to say that it's going to make Seaville a better place. Wow, I disagree with you. You think artificial intelligence is not going to have an impact on Charlottesville's job market? I didn't say that at all. Then maybe I misunderstood you.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Can you clarify what you said I? Said I don't have enough faith in the use of AI that I think it's going to make Seville a better place Okay, okay, so you think artificial intelligence is going to I? Think it'll have a fact. I think it'll make some things better. It'll make some things worse I think artificial intelligence is going to replace a boatload of jobs in Charlottesville and Alamara County. I think artificial intelligence is going to make Charlottesville and Alamara County more expensive to live in. I can see that too.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think artificial intelligence is going to gentrify this community, making it more white and wealthy. That stands to reason. I think artificial intelligence is a terrifying Pandora's box that is opening very quickly. I think a lot of people are gonna get fired. I think afterwards, a lot of people are gonna get either rehired or their positions reopened after the brain trust in charge of a lot of
Starting point is 00:45:16 places starts to realize that AI is not an autonomous, it's not a person. It requires someone who can reliably use it as a tool. And if you think that you can just replace people because now you have AI, I see that as the biggest problem moving forward. There are going to be leaders who think that, oh, we've got this brand new tool, but they think of it more in terms of a way of replacing what they have, which is paying people that work for them. And once they get rid of those people, they're gonna realize you still need people to do all the things that they've always done. AI is a tool, just like mechanization, the process of building factories still require people.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Sure, you can build robots, but somebody's got to service the robots. Same thing with AI. How about artificial intelligence impact on the University of Virginia? Viewers and listeners, have you considered this? Listen to Deep Throat's take on this. On the AI question, artificial intelligence is a major threat to expensive higher education. Artificial intelligence is bad for any city dependent on institutions of higher education that extract rents from students and parents in exchange for credentials. So why don't I put that into layman's perspective for the viewers and listeners? I can help you. Go ahead. So where a lot of the industrialization of the last century has hurt the middle class worker,
Starting point is 00:47:11 where jobs, you know, where you can build robots or you can build assembly lines. Factories. That require less people or at least just require people to to control the things that are that are working in the factories or if not made in this country they took them overseas the scary thing about AI is it's going to it's gonna put a lot more people in in jobs like like plumbing and Carpentry because it's gonna take away a lot of higher up jobs. It's gonna take the jobs where somebody
Starting point is 00:47:52 who could read a CAT scan, now you can just run the information by an AI, and once you've got it perfected enough, that you have to worry less about negative, about having false positives, you're going to start getting rid of all those people. So lab techs, just any industry that's got people that go to UVA. I think this is what Deep Throat is trying to say here. I'm gonna put it very succinctly. Artificial intelligence and technology and education,
Starting point is 00:48:31 a university is eventually gonna become a diploma mill where diplomas are earned on screens and through internet service providers. As artificial intelligence becomes more ubiquitous and more available and more approachable, why will a student need to go to a city away from their home and spend a hundred grand a year with room, board, rent, and entertainment for four years to get a degree? I don't know. I think I believe that the problem is more along the lines of getting rid of the need for a lot of the jobs that kids would be going to universities to learn for.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Or replacing the professors in totality. If you can go online and learn like we can now. You know, my wife uses YouTube as if it was Google a search engine. So when she learns to do something and she's very similar to you in that she is extremely the complete opposite of me. Very good at figuring fixing things handy, likewise. Her father's a mechanic. Her mom's a nurse. My wife inherited the traits of her father and her mom in that she is very good at solving problems with her hands, fixing things.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You have that skill set. I can barely screw in a light bulb. Legitimately, you know this. My job, what I'm good at is fixing things that are problems tied to business. The point we're making here is artificial intelligence. Can it replace the professor, can it replace the institution of higher learning where the next generation of kids that grew up with this technology get the information strictly from the Internet, putting less need on an institution? Yeah, but if in terms of jobs, those generations, those kids are still going to need some type of certificate, diploma. Again,
Starting point is 00:50:50 I see the problem being that a lot of industries are going to start using AI and no longer needing people in some of those fields. Or, and Deep Throat alludes to this, think about how rampant cheating is at the Darden School. If the Darden School does not get cheating in check, when do the J.P. Morgans and the Goldman Sachs and the Blackstones and the Black Rocks start saying, what's the value of this Darden graduate? Well, it's far more widespread than just UVA.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Oh, it's all everywhere. I'm reading about kids that, you know, kids in like seventh grade who are barely reading at a third grade level. People, you know, turning in all of a sudden, half the class, turning in papers. That are the exact same. No, not so much that they're the exact same, but kids going from like, you know, C or a
Starting point is 00:51:54 B minus average to all of a sudden turning in all A papers. Whether or not you can prove that they're using something like chat GPT or one of the other AI large language models, the fact of the matter is, if you're getting your essay off of, you know, write it for you, one of the other things I've read about teachers having these same kids, you know, turning in A papers, but then when asked in class about what they wrote the paper on, they don't know anything about the topic. Not even just like don't know something about what they wrote in the paper, but literally don't know anything about what they're learning in class because they can just run their answers get their answers from Chad GBT yeah is the new classroom setting or the new way
Starting point is 00:52:52 of learning or the new test the new proctorate exam a test where the teacher is in a lecture hall and is asking students questions and how they answer the questions determines their grasp of the material and then their grade? Is the new grading system class participation? Because class participation is an example of understanding the material where taking a test and being able to do that test in any room or any way you want with your phone in your hand is not an example of grasping the material. I mean I think that's a better classroom model
Starting point is 00:53:30 anyways even without the onset of AI and the problems that it brings. But I don't know that our country has the will to make that change to classrooms. our country has the will to make that change to classrooms. Well then the Darden Degree is what value? Less, less, that's less important to me than the fact that we're raising a generation of people that can't think. Which begs this question, the ones that can, how far can they go? What advantage do they have?
Starting point is 00:54:12 Well, they've got a large advantage. But we shouldn't be looking at, we shouldn't be saying, hey, great, we've got some people who are going to have a big advantage. We should be saying, hey, how can we lift up the rest of the things? See, you and I look at things very differently. You and I look at things very differently. I would rather... I look at things much more Darwinistically than you.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You look at things much more equitably or through a lens of pursuing equitable... No, I would rather mitigate the problems so that we raise children that use their minds. See, you look at it, you would rather... See, you're a pure hearted person than me. You look at it, I would rather mitigate the problem, and I look at it where I wanna raise my kids where they can utilize the problem to their advantage. That's the difference right there.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I look at it like, how can I position our two boys in a way where they can see the playing field and take the playing field and find a way to their advantage. Yeah. It's a perfect way to end the show. You did a great job today, Jude. A fantastic work from Jude Wichower. We'll give some love to Charlottesville Sanitary
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Starting point is 00:56:11 John Reed was not invited to the campaign event. The governor, the attorney general candidates, and the lieutenant governor not invited. That's how much dysfunction is with the GOP. That's the show. Get over yourselves guys. We'll see you at 10 15 a.m. tomorrow with Reel Talk. So long everybody..

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