The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - CVille High School Protest Divides Community; Did Teachers & Admins Encourage Student Protest?

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Good Wednesday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville Show. It's a pleasure to connect with you guys through the flagship show of our network. This is the water cooler of content and conversation. I'm going to be very straightforward. And I'm basing what I'm going to say now on statistics, metrics, and facts. Across all social media platforms, I Love Seville has the most significant reach in the entire region, except for the social media platforms. I Love Seville has the most significant reach in the entire region, except for the social media. for one brand, and that brand is the University of Virginia. We are in a clear-cut number two slot, and there continues to be examples of holes or gaps in the legacy media coverage. In the last month alone, the UVA health system debacle, white-collar racketeering, allegedly,
Starting point is 00:01:10 medical chart changing to maintain national and performance standards, malpractice, medical malpractice, surgeries that are dangerous that should not have been performed on kids, but the C-suite allegedly pushing doctors to perform the surgeries, profits over patients. Last week it was the Stefan Freeman saga. We're in correspondence with a number of restaurateur Stefan Freeman's staff members, including one who is, indicated to us that he is significantly behind on pay and is even alleged that ownership was taking his tips. Did you read that, Judah? Yeah, that's despicable, especially for someone who's got what ownership of how, what was seven storefronts and eight businesses. Yeah. One of the staff
Starting point is 00:02:06 members who's corresponding with us that may come on the show has passed on to us. It's information that ownership was taking his tips and his weeks behind on compensation and paychecks. Why has that not been covered by print, radio, and television? Seven storefronts and eight businesses that are collapsed. Now this Charlottesville High School protest has just been fumbled by print, radio, on television. You spend 15 or 30 seconds of a news broadcasts showing photo. of teenagers walking to downtown Charlottesville with signs.
Starting point is 00:02:51 That was the story. Charlottesville High School students protest ICE, leave school, carry signs, walk down McIntyre Road to the downtown mall, police department called. We're going to take it a step further on the broadcast today. A lot we're going to cover on the show. It's going to be a shorter show for us today as I have a 130 meeting that I'm going to have to get to, so we're off-air at about 105 today. I want to talk this protest and how it clearly is dividing this community with folks on many different, I just don't, I don't even think
Starting point is 00:03:27 there's two sides of the fence here. There's one contingent of people, one group of people that are adamant, the students are absolutely in the right with their First Amendment rights to protest and to leave school. I get it. I'm a huge proponent of the First Amendment. There's another group of people that is so disgusted by ICE, immigration customs enforcement, and what the Trump administration has done with policing our borders, that anything anti-ice, they will champion and celebrate. Look, I'm also disgusted with a lot of what we've seen from immigration customs and enforcement. It's gross. People should not be dying. The extent of violence with policing our borders is one that will mark history negatively for generations to come in the
Starting point is 00:04:23 United States. What's happened in Minneapolis is disturbing. It is beyond unfortunate. There's no place for murder and violence of this magnitude. Should our borders be enforced? Yes. Should people be dying at the hands of of masked men that are acting in militia capacity? No. There's another group of people that are so adamant in their support of Donald Trump that anything he does, they will support. We see that with this Charlottesville High School protests. There's another group of people that are asking questions about the safety of their kids. These are the parents that are like, hey, I didn't know what was going on here, man. Our kids are leaving school and we didn't know about this. Were they supervised?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Like, why weren't we told that our kids were going to leave Charlottesville High School when we drop them off or they go to school. We expect them to stay on school grounds and be safe. Now we're hearing they're walking down snowy and icy, dangerous roads, miggling amongst strangers, unsupervised and playing Frogger with their lives amongst traffic on their way to downtown Charlottesville. So it's not just like lying down the middle and one side of the fence and one side of the fence. There is many different, it's a Venn diagram, if you may, of groups of people. And I want to try to understand the sociology, the anthropology of this Venn diagram on the I Love Seville show today. I have a couple of programming
Starting point is 00:06:04 notes for you. Police Chief Mike Cottius will join us in studio in person on Friday. Mike Cottius, the George Clooney of policing, in studio. in person on Friday's episode of the I Love Seville show. Also, one other programming note, and goodness gracious, this is going to get some of the viewers and listeners that are, you know, absolutely angry and infuriated with my commentary from this morning. Again, I'm going to read that commentary to you in about 30 seconds. But these people that, and you're entitled to your opinion,
Starting point is 00:06:42 I don't, I'm totally fine with the fact that you're infuriated. I want the viewers and listeners to know that are angry with my commentary and infuriated with what I wrote, which I will read to you at a matter of moments. I am so secure in my skin, my approach to life, my comfortability, where I am professionally and personally, with my wife, our two sons, our friends, our passions, hobbies, and interests, that my comment, if it elicits anger from you, it really is no sweat off my back. I sincerely, humbly mean that. The group that is infuriated will be even more infuriated when they hear this. John McGuire, the congressman, will be on the I Love Seville show next week.
Starting point is 00:07:41 The embattled Congressman John McGuire in person on the I Love Seville show next week, giddy up and get ready. I'd love to give some attention to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, 62 years in business. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. John and Andrew Vermillion are five-generation strong in Almaro County. Their business is doing well on East High Street, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. It's located online at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com. It has a sister company, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, that will offer consultation and concierge services for anything swimming pool related. We use Charlottesville swimming pool company for our family swimming pool at our house and Charlestville sanitary supply for anything sanitary related. They offer free in market
Starting point is 00:08:26 delivery. They have price points that the big box stores cannot beat and the product will be on your doorstep before the big box stores. Sixty two years in business, eight plus people, the vermilions. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company. All right, I'm going to read the commentary, and then I'm going to weave you in on a two-shot. We have a hard stop at 105. Here's what I wrote this morning on the I Love Seville Network. I'm going to read it verbatim. It's gone literally viral with more than 225,000 people unique IP addresses, seen it so far,
Starting point is 00:09:04 and I published it not even three hours ago. Here it goes. Charlestville High School students skipped school on Monday to protest ICE. The swarm of students marched unsupervised to downtown Charleston, Virginia, amongst traffic and strangers. Charlottesville High School teachers and administrators were aware of the planned truancy, and some even encouraged the unauthorized absences. Congressional candidate Tom Perrello
Starting point is 00:09:36 cheered the teenagers on. Allowing students to skip school to protest outside of school is a dangerous Pandora's box and an injury lawsuit waiting to happen. The First Amendment neither forgives nor permits truancy and it certainly does not protect against injury, crime, or evil.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Freedom of speech does not preclude consequences. Charlottesville High School is setting a dangerous precedent and some teachers, administrators, and politicians are emboldening the behavior. Which teacher, administrator, or politician will accept culpability if the unthinkable happens to a student during an encourage truancy protest? I published those one, two, three, four, five, six, paragraphs on the I Love Seville Network, the water cooler of content and conversation, not even three hours ago, and minutes before the show started, our IP counter suggested 225,000 plus unique IP addresses had read or interacted with my commentary across all platforms. That number
Starting point is 00:10:56 will rise and it will rise dramatically following this show. Studio camera, Judah Wickhauer. Two shot, Judah Wickhauer. a trusted voice in this community, Judah Wickhauer. You had a novel idea of trying to destabilize the outcry. You had a novel idea, I'll try this again, of trying to decompose the outcry by comparing the protest on Monday with a field trip. Maybe a field trip to the paramount. field trip to the museum for Charlottesville high school students. And the idea with decomposing
Starting point is 00:11:42 the protests, taking the outrage, which is anything tied to immigration, customs and enforcement, Border Patrol, and the Trump administration, out of the equation, and setting a baseline with a comparison and a, a comparison, a study of a field trip to what happened on Monday afternoon. I thought it was a pretty good idea. My friend, the show is yours. So what I saw in a lot of the comments was, you know, there was the usual support or, you know, opposition. Some people are, you know, some people are gung-ho, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:26 go students, we support your, you know, your right to protest. Other people are like, no, that's not right. I think what we're getting too much caught up in is the idea that this is a protest. And the fact of the matter is this is students leaving school. Now, I don't think anyone here is saying that kids can't leave school. Most of us, I know Jerry and I both skipped school, whether it was one time or 20 times, doesn't matter. We did it, and we survived. but what we're talking about here is not one or two kids playing hooky.
Starting point is 00:13:05 What we're talking about is a large group of students leaving the school and potentially having teachers and administrators and politicians cheering them on. But someone was kind enough to send us, what is this, parental permission for transportation and field trips. That's why I brought, that's why I bring field trips. trips into this. This was Carly Wagner. Carly Wagner said this in the comment section. I find Carly Wagner, I hope she is watching the show to be reasonable, sensible, fact-based, level-headed, practical, how she goes about, I think she has four or five children, how she goes about raising her family being the shot caller. I have no doubt she's the shot caller of her household, raising her kids. I
Starting point is 00:13:59 I admire what she's doing. She sent us that. She's commented on the show multiple times, and I've always found her to be reasonable as well. She sent this about the Virginia government rules for how they run schools, and parental permission for transportation and field trips shall be secured before the scheduled activity. If a blanket permission is used instead of a separate written permission, the following shall apply.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Why? One, parents shall be notified of the field trip. Sounds reasonable. And two, parents shall be given the opportunity to withdraw their children from the field trip, which is also reasonable. However, if the teachers and the administrators are encouraging the children to go out and do this, I'm wondering were parents notified of this field trip or given the chance to pull their kids from it because of the potential dangers of a group of kids walking along Charlottesville City streets, which all of us know to be, you know, not the safest place in the best of conditions. And we are not in the best of conditions, despite the fact that we have a beautiful, wonderful, warm, I'm not going to call it a heat wave, but all this warm weather currently melting the ice and snow on our streets and sidewalks. So, ultimately, I think we need to bring this away from the discussion about protesting, because I think most of us approve of the kids protesting. I certainly do.
Starting point is 00:15:42 At least approve of them, you know, having a political voice, feeling strongly about something and doing something about it. if we are going to talk about the protest, I think the only logical thing we should be talking about is, would everyone be so blasé about the kids taking to the streets to protest if this was a right-leaning argument? If they were protesting something that the left was doing, is are we only okay with this because we don't like one-sides politics? And that was, I think, brought up somewhere else. I don't remember exactly where right now, but is this even, are we being evenly, even handed with the kids in this case? If some of them, if Turning Point USA kids who have been greatly maligned on Reddit and probably other social media places. Including by Allison Spillman, the Almore County School Board member who called Turning Point USA Western Outmoral's chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So if Turning Point USA students decided as a. a group to protest, walk out of the school, go walking around the city, and hold up signs, would we react in the same way? And if the answer is no, then we have to take a look at our, what, our moral compass? Not our moral compass. Okay. It's not about morality. It's about if if something is okay for one side because they don't like what the other side is doing, but it's not okay for the other side because they don't like what, it, then you're not being, you're not, you're not judging with an equal yardstick. You're being disingenuous, you're being hypocritical, okay, all of the above.
Starting point is 00:17:32 If I, the viewers and listeners that are watching this program, I need to caveat and characterize a couple of things before I offer more commentary. I want high school students and teenagers to protest what they are passionate about. I am all for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. Protest. My issue with this entire event is the fact that, A, it happened during school hours. If you want to protest on a Saturday morning, do it. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Sing kumbaya with Kristen Zaco's inside Target, like what happened last week, which was characterized well on the I Love Seville show. Kristen Zekos, you're a hell of a conductor. Hell of a maestro. Do it. But you can't do it during school hours. And you certainly can't do it on the heels of a snow apocalypse where you were out of school for nearly two weeks
Starting point is 00:18:36 and on the heels of Christmas break. Because what is happening is you academically and socially are getting further and further behind. And certainly further and further behind of your private school peers who navigated the snowpocalypse much more efficiently than the public school specifically returning to the classroom to learn. The private school kids are in the classroom longer learning than the public school kids. That creates generational academic gaps. Generational academic gaps breed generational wealth gaps and it's a domino effect of nasty legacy
Starting point is 00:19:14 proportions. My second issue with this is, Judah, is the protests went extremely largely unsupervised. There were no teachers or administrators from Charlottesville High School walking alongside minors as they were navigating car traffic and vehicle traffic streets while playing Frogger with their life as they were hop, skip, and jumping over icebergs. Mike Kachis in the Charlottesville Police Department literally had to send patrol cars and utilize social media notification to ask Charlottesvillians and Almore Countyans and commuters to be extremely careful
Starting point is 00:19:56 because there was large groups of people walking unsupervised around the streets. Those were the exact language that was utilized by the police department. Exact language. Some people are saying, oh, Jerry, there was a couple of parents that were there to help supervise.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Bullshit. A couple of parents supervising 100 plus high school students, give me a break. Give me a break and step into reality. Here's further issue I have, further issue that you jump in. Further issues that I have with this. I have nearly three dozen direct messages, text messages, and emails from Charlottesville high school parents that had no idea that this was happening.
Starting point is 00:20:44 parents literally connecting with me that's saying, we did not know our kids were doing this. Had we have known we would not have allowed it or possibly would not have sent our kids to school. Parents saying when we drop our kids off to school or when they ride the bus to school or drive themselves to school, we expect them to stay at school. It's that trust or expectation of being in a safe, contained environment
Starting point is 00:21:11 that is the whole premise of school. if parents think that kids can leave school unsupervised and encouraged by teachers and administrators, that trust is eroded and the whole premise of school is destroyed. This is so effing obvious. And then my last point, and then Judah jump in. If Turning Point USA, it's a perfect example. If Turning Point USA Western Amory Chapter had chosen to do this, left the high school in Crozé and walked to Fardowners or Crozay pizza or the Dairy Queen by the couple hundred carrying signs that had language that was grammatically incorrect
Starting point is 00:22:01 and referencing the Latina baddies exact words on one of the signs, the Latina baddies that we have to protect at the border. if Turning Point USA Western Al Morrow students had done this by the hundreds, Charlottesville and Al Morrow County would have been infuriated. And Charlottesville and Al Morrow County would have said, danger, cars, trucks, vehicles, road, snow, ice, what are you doing? Truancy, unsupervised, unauthorized, illegal. And when we don't call a spade a spade,
Starting point is 00:22:36 or we use selective outcry, that's selective outcry, a term judicoyne, which I think is brilliant. Selective outrage, even better. When we utilize selective outrage, or better yet, when selective outrage clouds our judgment, we are not the best versions of ourselves as parents, as partners, as citizens.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And that's what we're seeing here. Judah Wickhauer, with nine minutes on the docket. Oh, man. Well, if teachers and admins, this is why I feel like we take this out of the realm of protest and call it a field trip. If teachers and administrators approve of this, that's fine. But why not turn it into a school field trip, send notification to parents, which allows. them the chance to approve or disprove. They can say, no, I don't want my kids going on that. They can say, yeah, I love that you're doing this and my kids can go on that. But then they have a choice.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It's great that two parents or three parents or even five parents, however many parents, went along with all these kids making their pilgrimage through Charlottesville. but if you weren't one of those parents, how do you feel? Bingo. And I want to ask you this question. And we are already hearing that there's future protest plan for Charlottesville High School. There's going to be future, hey, high schoolers at Charlottesville High School. You got the support of roughly 55 or 60% of this community.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Teenagers at Charlottesville High School, there's 60% of this community that support you being truant and skipping school. during the day. Keep doing it. Do it tomorrow. Do it Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Do it every day, Charlottesville High School teenagers. Protest ICE, leave school. The community supports you to the tune of about 60% of them. Make your postcards and your posters. Reference the Latina Batties. Skip school. The community wants you to do at Charlottes High School. And the administrators and the teachers that are encouraging this, Dear God, please do not allow this to happen. But if something terrible were to happen as minors were navigating roadways on foot by the hundreds and someone got hurt,
Starting point is 00:25:24 I can guarantee you, Dr. Royale Gurley, I can guarantee you, Ziana Bryant, Emily Dooley, Lisa Torres, Charlottesville School Board. I can guarantee you Shannon Gilligan, President Charlottesville Teacher Union. I can guarantee you principals and administrators and teachers that a lawsuit will follow. This is, this was, if you, if you'd strip away all of the, the what abouts and the, if you just, if we just take the basic facts, a bunch of students leaving the school and doing whatever they want, and teachers and administrators allowing it, That is gross negligence. I guarantee you a lawsuit will follow. Gross negligence, educational malpractice. And there's this topic, and unfortunately, we only have six minutes on the show.
Starting point is 00:26:19 When we were planning on doing the show today and having a 1.30 meeting, I never anticipated my commentary literally being seen by a quarter of a million people in less than three hours and going viral. But such as creating content and adapting to new and fresh content, on the fly, which is what we do on the show every day, which legacy media does not do. There's someone who I have a lot of respect for. I believe she still owns Iron Poffelz and Coffee. Her name is Catherine Matthews. She has since moved from the community.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I think she lives in Michigan or Wisconsin somewhere along those lines. Catherine Matthews, if you're watching the show, I have tremendous respect for you. A tremendous respect for the entrepreneurial journey, the brand you created, iron paples and coffee on Water Street. It's fantastic. She's a newly minted mother. She has a wonderful family, very intelligent husband. She's very intelligent.
Starting point is 00:27:09 She's successful. Props and praise for Catherine Matthews. I hope she hears that. She leaves this comment on my Facebook page. We cannot expect, this is how it applies to teachers and administrators and principles politicizing education. I do not think that teachers, administrators, and principals should politicize education. I think it's up to my wife and I to determine. and what our two sons learn from a politics standpoint, a sexuality standpoint, a gender identification
Starting point is 00:27:45 standpoint. And as a result, my wife and I have chosen to pay a lot of money. We're talking darn near close to 25 grand to send our second grader to a private school locally. It's a lot of money. But we do this because we love him. and we see the curriculum he's in, the track he's in currently, as what's best for our family and for him. I said education should not be politicized.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It should not be politicized. It's up to the parents to determine sexuality or not determine, have the conversation. It's up to the parents to have the conversation with their offspring, their children about sexuality, about gender identification, about politics. And it's not the teachers in the schools. She responds by saying this, we cannot expect students to leave their humanity at the door.
Starting point is 00:28:38 When policies like ice raids affect their peers and community, it isn't the school politicizing life, it's life demanding a response. Telling teachers and students to just study is asking them to ignore the world. They are prepared to live in. That wasn't even the comment I wanted to get to. She's basically saying it's up. to the teachers to politicize or to, excuse me, it's up to the teachers and support staff to have the conversations with minors that are the type of conversations about politics and protesting and gender
Starting point is 00:29:22 and sexuality. I would say the point of school is to, is to promote discussion, promote critical thinking and part of that is not teaching with only one side of your political viewpoint so that students can discuss things in school so that they can come
Starting point is 00:29:43 to whatever conclusions they come to and expand their minds by actually thinking and not just parroting what the teacher says because the teacher is is only teaching one side of the story? I want my kids challenged on reading and writing
Starting point is 00:30:08 and arithmetic and history and communication and socialization and following the rules and athletics and I want my kids challenged on the academics of life. I don't want my kids challenged by strangers, teachers, administrators and principles that my wife and I don't really know on politics and protesting and sexuality and gender identification. Border Patrol and Trumpinian policy. That's up to my wife and I to have that conversation when we are ready to have that conversation with our two children. We could go deeper on this. I have a 1.30 meeting. It's quintessential.
Starting point is 00:31:01 you know, set a meeting and then you have one of the hottest topics you can talk about. We will carry this discussion into tomorrow's show. I'm going to have conversations with parents that did not know that this protest was happening. I have phone calls lined up. I also have a phone call lined up with one of Stefan Freedman's employees that is telling us that tip money was taken from him, and he's behind on a number of paychecks. You saw it as well. He just sent me a text.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I'm free the rest of the day. I can chat with you whenever you're ready. Okay. There's a Pandora's box that's opening right here at Charlottesville High School. And Dr. Royale Gurley, the superintendent, the school board, and the teacher union, better figure out how it's going to open this, manage this open box. And if we live in a community where 60, 70% of the community is fine on minors skipping school and being truant and protesting that I would encourage Charlottesville high school teenagers and students to do a protest tomorrow
Starting point is 00:32:09 and one on Friday and one on Monday and one on Tuesday and one on Thursday and one on Friday of next week and heck, why don't we do it until summertime? Yeah. That's the I Love Seville show, a shortened version on a Wednesday, in the saddle tomorrow at 1230 on a show that's going to be red hot. Judah Whitcower and Jerry Miller. Thank you.

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