The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Daniel Murphy Joined Nate Kibler Live On "The White Mountain Ministries Show!"

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Daniel Murphy, Owner of Murphy’s Coffee & Bagel House and Author of Christianity Is Not A Religion. It Is Relationship., joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com. “The White Mountain Ministries Show” is presented by Opening Doors Real Estate.

Thank you for watching the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I just thank you for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today, for watching, for listening, for praying. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. And today we, as always, are going to bring the kingdom of God. I am very excited. We have an amazing man, Daniel Murphy, live with us in studio today from Queensland, Australia. That is literally on the other side of the world. So we'll talk about this more at some point about what are the chances and why and how did God bring a man and his spouse and his family from Queensland, Australia, to be part of what the Lord is doing in Central Virginia. So I'm going to introduce Daniel in just a second. We're very excited for

what he has to share. But just for a little word of the week, today is October 15th, I guess, election day for the next president of the United States of America is, I believe, on November 5th, isn't it, Judah, November 5th? Yes. And so if you can see here today, and this is not a political show, this is not a show about politics, and I'm not even going to go there. I'm not going to tell you who to vote or any of those things, but I went and voted early today, which I almost never do that. I'm a vote. I always go to the polls on election day, but for whatever reason, I went early today. And so anyways, it puts some things on my heart, guys, because I said, I'm not going to tell you who to vote for. But I encourage you to ask the Holy Spirit who you're supposed to vote for for this election.

I remember about I guess it was four years ago in the last election. I had my views. I had my opinions that I feel so strongly about. And it's like, OK, Lord, I don't want to vote for the person that I think should be in office. I want to vote for the person that you have called. It's your will and your desire to be the president of the free world. And whether it aligns with what I think, it's okay because it's not about what we want. It's about what we are called to do for the kingdom of God. So I prayed on it. I interceded for our country, and the Lord made it very clear who I was supposed to vote for in that election. Now, this election, to be honest with you, I didn't have to do too much praying because I already

knew who the Lord was calling me to vote for. And here's the thing, guys. If we think that God does not care who is the president of the United States, who's the president of the free world, we are being greatly deceived because you look throughout biblical history, you look at Joseph, you look at David. There are many others. God has anointed, God has appointed kings and leaders throughout history. So we need to be praying for our country. I do not believe that the Holy Spirit told me to vote for someone that he's telling you to vote for the opposite person. We really, I believe, as a body of Christ should be united on who is going to be the next president of the United States, that we are interceding and praying for that, guys, because the power of prayer, it matters so much.

And government officials, if we think that as the ecclesia, that we can't change, that we can't alter elections, we absolutely can. God has given us the power and the dominion and the authority, and he's also given us the opportunity and the dominion and the authority, and he's also given us the opportunity and the freedom in this country to vote. So I encourage you guys to intercede, to pray, but to also go vote. All right. So that's my word of the day. And so let's get into the show. Again, I want to thank the sponsors of the show, Opening Doors Real Estate, and Melanie Morris, her husband David. They are amazing people of God. We're just honored that they are being part of what the Lord is doing through this show.

And also just like the show, like our page, guys. Comment on it. Tell us where you're coming from today. This has become an international show. People are watching it all over the world, and we're so grateful to you. So tell us where you're watching and listening from today. This has become an international show. People are watching it all over the world, and we're so grateful to you. So tell us where you're watching and listening from today. And most importantly, more than almost anything you can do for the show, guys, is to share the show. Share this. This is how people are seeing it all over the world. So bless you. All right, Judah, you ready to roll? We're going to introduce Daniel. Let us know when we can see him.

All right, you're good. Welcome, Daniel. Thank you, Nate. Awesome voice. The first guest officially from Australia. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. Yeah, so I always start the show because I'm not just plucking people out of thin air because they're known or anything like that to come on the show. These are what I call kingdom connections. So you are our kingdom

connection for the day. And I love it when I meet people and I know it's the Lord and I know it's, it's divine. And, you know, the interesting thing is it's like, in some ways, time does fly because you and me actually met, I thought about it today, it was in February of 2020. So almost five years ago we met. And until about two months ago, we never spoke or talked to each other since that day. No, that's correct. But the fascinating thing is, my friend Carl Seelman, he was going to, I had been, let know, let's say discipling him and leading him back to the Lord. And anyways, he made the decision to give his life that he was going to get baptized.

And he asked me to baptize him. And we ended up, we talk about this ain't church y'all and your book about, you know, it's not about religion. It's about relationship with Jesus. Well, we baptized him in a hot tub in the back of my parents' property on a middle of the week. And you didn't know me from a hole in the wall. You didn't know Carl from a hole in the wall, but you were having a meeting with another man talking about the Lord. He had been invited to this baptism and you said, well, can I come? Yeah, that's correct. So you showed up at this baptism in the middle of the week in the backyard of my parents' property and that's how we met.

Yeah. And so, I mean, I love that about you. It shows you you have a heart for the kingdom of God. So I don't know if you remember that day. It was quite a long time ago. Yeah, absolutely. I remember like it was yesterday. Do you?

Yeah, absolutely. You held him under the water. Ah, that is. You know what? You do have a good memory. That is very good because, guys, you know, this is not, you know, just a little splish splash to me. Like you are going under that water when you give your life to the Lord and like that center identity, that person of who you were born into, into this world. Like you're dying.

Like you're going under that water and you are dying. And you're right. I will hold him down until that last bubble, you know, and then I'm going to bring them up. And it's new life. You're a new creation. All that sin, all that darkness, all that past history, it's gone. New life in Jesus Christ. That's beautiful you remember that. Yeah, that internal washing.

Yes. Feeling clean inside. So you give them the time. I loved it, mate. You gave them the time to really think about it, what I'm doing here, what I'm doing with my life. I'm about to become a new person, a new creation in Christ. Death, burial, resurrection.

You know, they can go through all of that, and that's what we should do and explain to people what they're doing when they're being baptized and yes they can understand that in those quiet moments just holding their breath under the water i thought it was amazing i thought it was great thank you so much i mean but what you're saying is like it's not just a prayer to go to heaven and we need to it's not about our numbers and saying well we led 27 people to the Lord last month. Like if they got out of that water and the next day they have no idea what they did. Exactly. Right? Yeah.

And so, I mean, yes, it matters that you are a new creation. That life, not to say the Lord won't give us the diaries of our heart because he was, but like the life you were living for you is gone. We're living our life for the kingdom of God. And so you were also fascinating to me that day, not only because you showed up, you know, from Australia and just, just, I know that I look back at it now and I know it was not random because a couple of months ago, the Lord put you on my heart. And, you know, I knew that you lived in Australia, but had business,

you know, business in central Virginia. And I remember thinking, you know, well, what are the chances that he's even going to be around? So I called your coffee shop. That's the only way I knew how to get in touch with you. Murphy's in Ruckersville. You got a free plug. So you guys go check out Murphy's. Tuesdays are $2 Tuesdays free. Go ahead, say it. Yeah, absolutely. Go to Murphy's. You get the best coffee and the best bagel in the district. Absolutely. There we go. So, yeah, I start thinking about coffee now. But, you know, the Lord put it on my heart to reach out to you. And they're like, well, Mr. Murphy's actually here in the country for another week. And then by the next day, we had a conversation and we sat down and met.

And I think that's for bigger purpose for what God's doing in this region. And I know that you play a big part of that. It's not by coincidence that you're from Australia and central Virginia. But that day you started sharing some things like I know you're a man of the word. Right. I'm a man of the word. But the Bible says we worship in spirit and in truth. Yes. So this this Bible is alive. Obviously, we can gain so much from it. But to have that walk with the Holy Spirit is also incredibly vital. And I know that you have that you with the Holy Spirit is also incredibly vital. And I

know that you have that. You've experienced many divine encounters throughout your life. You've seen God do many supernatural things. And I remember you sharing that you were a former Pentecostal pastor and you had been in India and all these miracles. And I remember specifically, and I don't know if you're open to sharing this on the air, but you shared a testimony about a white witch being delivered in India. Yes. And I don't even remember much about the story, but I know it was fascinating. Can you even maybe share that story, that supernatural story, to just get the show rolling?

Yeah, it was wonderful. It was just what happened was straight out of the Book of Acts, Acts 16. And I've actually put it in my book. But what has happened over the years and has grown and developed is that I go to India. I started my missionary work in Papua New Guinea, then in the Philippines, then in India. And I've been going to India now for about 10 years. And I'm watching the greatest move of the Holy Spirit I've seen anywhere. And I saw a great move of the Holy Spirit in Papua New Guinea.

But this is like that on steroids. So could you explain a little bit what's happening? Because I'm fascinated to know. I know people that are going to India. I have friends from India. I feel like the Lord has put India on my heart. So tell me more. So we work, one of the areas I work in is up in the northeast of India.

So it's the most unreached place on the planet. Wow. One and a half billion people. It borders Bhutan, Nepal, China, Bangladesh. So we can reach so many people. The main man that I work with up there is just this incredible apostle, this man of God. And he just doesn't stop. He's just everywhere.

And they are averaging between one and 200 baptisms per month. Wow. We opened, I think it was a month ago or three weeks ago, we opened 11 churches. We cannot keep up. Pastor Argent talks, and the only way he describes it is it's like a river. It is just this flood of God the Holy Spirit moving and people coming to the Lord it started I think about eight years ago they flew me into a place called Silligree up in the northeast we did what I normally do which is a two or three day session and you have four sessions a day.

And then you call people out to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit at the end of every one of those sessions. We're in Siligri, and we were doing this session. And I had noticed this young girl, very unique, very different. And she was totally clothed in white. She had a white headdress on a white underscar and a thing underneath her she looked like a muslim actually and there was probably two to two hundred and fifty pastors and leaders at this session that's what they do

and they bring all the pastors and leaders there and then I go through this and then God the Holy Spirit every time just turns up. He just baptises people in the Holy Spirit. It's just amazing to watch. So over the two days, it was a two-day session. We had four sessions a day. This young girl, lady I noticed, she was about 30, just a lovely little Indian lady full white at the end of every session she'd come out to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit and then we would have

a break for a half an hour or whatever and then we would have our cup of tea cup of coffee biscuit whatever and I would notice she would go to the different windows in the building and just stand and stare out the window, just looking at nothing. But she was faithful. End of every session, she would come out. You just could sense there was something going on with her, though? Well, you just saw it. She'd stand by herself so she wouldn't intermingle. She wouldn't come in and mix with the groups or anything like that.

So it becomes very noticeable. So did you think that she was originally there for the right reasons? Or was that she was? She came out faithfully at the end of every session. Pastors would go and pray with her and pray for the baptism of the Holy Spirit and pray for whatever need she had. At the end of the two days, and I had a really busy schedule, and I had to go and connect, jump onto another plane, fly to the next city. We had the two cities the following two days and I had a really busy schedule and you know I had to go and connect jump onto another

plane fly to the next city we had the two cities the following two days and we were just doing the wrap-up and Arjun who was the head pastor there and the head of this region was doing the wrap-up from the front and sitting next to me was the regional director for the whole of the north of India, Binu. And we're sitting together and we're just listening to Arjun do this wrap-up. And Arjun said he was talking about this woman that was... This person, he didn't say it was a woman. This person that he walked into the dorms... He has at his house where he resides, he has a dorm for males and females. And this person, he walked into the dorms he has at his house where he resides he has a dorm for males and

females and this this person he walked into the dorm and they were levitating off their bed in a demonic way you mean right yes well i i nudged binu and said come on you know arjun's joking isn't it right you know that levitate and bina went no he said we've seen it before he said down in in um carolina down in the southeast of india southwest he said we my brother and i and our two sisters were only teenagers we're on the street in the city one of the main cities in carolina and this man was getting people to lay on the footpath and he was levitating them off the ground. Like a witch doctor or something.

He was a witch doctor. So they all said to each other, I wonder if we started praying in tongues what would happen. So they all started praying in tongues. Boom, it was all over. This guy couldn't get them off the ground, so he went ballistic. He started going. Binu was telling me that he started going nuts, screaming, yelling.

I believe that's what we call a manifestation. Yeah. And so they said, oh, we just got frightened and we ran away. So I said, oh, okay. So I just said, oh, okay, oh, well, right. But I put it away then as we're about to go and jump in our cars and head off to the airport Arjun and two other pastors walked over with this young lady walked across the room and and I'm sort of thinking you know this is a bit

odd what are you coming here for you know so they brought this woman over and they said dan can you pray for this woman i said yeah okay absolutely so i got her to sit in the seat and um i i got down on my knees beside her and i put my hand on her forehead and i i started praying and i was praying to see god and as soon as i started praying she just started going like this on the side of her head and i went it's a pretty good description well i pushed back and i said and i looked up at arjun i said what's happening and arjun said she's got all these voices going on in her head this explosion of voices and i said oh right she's demon possessed no problem. Jesus knows what he's doing. Yeah. So.

And guess what? Jesus lives in you. Well, he gives us his authority. Yeah. We just got to learn to understand how we walk in that authority. Absolutely. It's got to be all him. None of me.

None of anyone else. Absolutely. It's got to be all Jesus. It has to be. So I said, right, okay. So I went back and it probably took about 15 or 20 minutes. And this little young lady is just speaking. And then all of a sudden she'd come out in a new tongue,

just started speaking in tongues. And then I pushed back and I looked at this young girl and she just had these little tears streaming down her face and this great big smile across her face and I went Lord you just filled this young lady with the Holy Spirit you took the demons out right and you filled her with the Holy Spirit anyway I sort of I just prayed with her a bit more and then just left her and then Binu because I can't speak their language Binu come and jumped in beside her and he put his arm around her just to comfort her and

make sure she was okay. Then he said to her, what happened? Tell me what happened. And the little girl said she saw this vision. She said she saw these two angels come down and take something out of her body and take it away. So good. So we're driving, we're racing around getting ready to go and we're heading to jump in the car and Binu said to me, do you know what just happened? He told me the story of what happened the way this little girl described it.

Then when we're in the car going to the airport he got the phone call from Arjun saying that was the little girl that he saw levitating off the bed in the dorms so she we found out she was a white witch and she was she had been used by her husband to make money um the next day when we're driving we flew into patna and we had to drive from patna to johannabad which is about an hour and a half two hour drive another leader up there a man called abraham was with me and he got a phone call and the phone call virtually went for the entire trip the husband had gone to the authorities in bhutan she'd escaped from bhutan from her husband he'd gone to the authorities in Bhutan she'd escaped from Bhutan from her husband he'd gone to the authorities and he'd created all these problems with the police the political people everyone

and there was this furor it was just erupting everywhere and so I'm just unbeknownst to me I didn't know we're just going to the next place the next say all you did was just be obedient and pray for that woman that needed the the heart and needed to be touched by the Lord, right? It was amazing, Nate. The power of the one. It goes then so much further. So I got back home after that trip. I went.

We had several more cities to do, and we did all that. And there was this incredible move of the Holy Spirit wherever we went. And people just kept getting baptized in the Holy Spirit, 400, 300, 200 at a time. And it was just, it's amazing to watch. Wow. I got home and about three months later. And they need the Holy, we all need the Holy Spirit. But those people, I mean, they get, they're worshiping what?

A million other false gods, right? I mean, they, they, they're're hungry for spirituality they're just searching in all the wrong places right that's right and we need to know that god is a real that he's alive that he's powerful that he loves them but they have destiny for their life and so many of them live in complete poverty they need some hope yeah we don't understand how close god actually wants to be to us we don't hit the relationship is, again, what my book's about, the relationship that God desires is not this matey-matey, oh, good on you, casual chat, you know, hello, how are you, shake hands.

No, he wants to be closer to us than any marriage is. Yes. And we become one flesh. The Bible talks about one flesh. In Papua New Guinea, when I refer to my wife, I refer to her we become one flesh. The Bible talks about one flesh. In Papua New Guinea, when I refer to my wife, I refer to her as my one body. We are one body. God wants to be even closer than that. The closest he can get is when he comes and lives inside of us through the Holy Spirit. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit take up residence in temples not made with human hands. Our spirit becomes one with his spirit. Well, that's what he requires.

That's how close and intimate God wants to be to us. And we want to push him out there and just have him on this occasion and that occasion. It's not the desire of God. God wants intimacy. He wants closeness. He wants constant communication. And it's so much more simple than we make it because we think, so many even Christians, we think that, like, where's God? Well, we're praying out there to the heavens.

You don't need to do that. He's right here. You pray right here. Jesus said the kingdom of God is within you. All you've got to do is invite him in. Surrender. Submit yourself. And then he will come in. oh the story didn't end there

i was just a little bit no no we've got a bit sidetracked you're good i mean it's an amazing it's an amazing testimony and you know it's interesting that it stuck with me for five years so i believe it's meant to be shared with the world. So now it is. And, Nate, God went even further. It's always something bigger. You know, like he loves that woman. He wanted her free. But it's always a bigger picture, too. Yeah.

Well, what happened then, and I actually have the video on my phone, the husband came down, and he became a christian and he is now argent's number one evangelist wow gosh that is so good only god can do that absolutely and they even sat down they sat down they got argent to do it good and that the young couple they sat on their bed and they just wanted to thank me. Wow. And it just brings tears to your eyes. Yeah, that's amazing. So they filled this. You know, the Lord is transforming their whole family.

Amen. And it's just amazing. We don't know what he's going to do next. Yep. You just follow the God dots, right? Yeah. It's just a beautiful story. No, that's so good.

So, you know, I do want to hear, I know you said you don't really like to talk about yourself, but you are a fascinating man. I don't know you that well, but you are fascinating. And, you know, we talked a little bit before the show today about, like, really how you started. This ain't church, y'all, right? We're not talking about church i'm talking about your walk like really with the lord in the kingdom of god how that began and you had an empire in australia as a businessman can you can you share how that led you to the lord really i came to the lord when i was 31 i'm now, so I've been 40 years in the Lord. I came to the Lord to take my wife out. And I had this massive business at 31. It was huge. I had 300 employees. I had 53

salesmen. We had airplanes. We had real estate development, right? Yeah, I was a property developer. And we were pumping out this huge amount of of stock every year and building stuff and commercial everything and it was and it was just crazy and i didn't want to be a christian i thought this is the last thing i want to do i'd rather someone put a gun to my head and be joking thank you for the honesty christians wear rags and eat dirt you know i'm hearing and that's a lie, right? 100%. But there's a lot of people that think that, so I just wanted to clarify.

It's a fallacy. God doesn't want us to be poor. He's our Father. He wants us to give us every good gift that's there possible. And it's not a prosperity gospel, but we're His children. We have inheritance for the kingdom. Keep going. In every situation, he gives with people in India what they need.

He gives us here in America or in Australia what we need. And he gives us whatever we need for the kingdom. If it's a kingdom purpose, it's going to serve a kingdom outcome. He supplies everything, the resources, the people, everything. He just gives and gives and gives. He's given us everything. There's nothing he will hold back. He even gave his son.

This is crazy. Yes. Our Lord Jesus Christ, God himself, came and dwelt on this earth. It wasn't the first time he'd been here. We look through scripture. He was here. He was the one that walked in the garden with Adam and Eve. He was the fourth man in the fiery furnace. He was the rock out of which the water flowed in the desert. You know, he was the one that met Abraham with the three men.

Jesus has been here many, many, many times. And he's coming back. And he's coming back to spend a thousand years on earth to rule and reign with his people. It's a bit of a misunderstanding. We think we're all going to heaven and that we're going to be sitting up in heaven. When you read the scripture, when you really look through the scriptures, Jesus is coming back. He's coming back to rule and reign on the earth for a thousand years. He's coming back not like what we saw him go. The church and we have failed to communicate to the world really what Jesus is like.

Oh, yeah. We have painted an effeminate picture of Jesus. God loves everyone. The Bible doesn't tell us that. God is unconditional love. That is not in your Bible. There are all these things that we quote, and therefore we only see this soft, you know, an easy pushover, someone we can tell what to do, we can manage, we can handle. When you look at Christ, man, it is just shuddering.

Well, you know, I talk about this on almost every show, almost every time I preach. It's like John 17. Eternal life is not saying a prayer to go to heaven or going to church or being good during the week. Eternal life is to know Jesus Christ, to know him intimately, to have a deep relationship where you do know his heart. You do know his character. Because so many of us, even in the church, we love him. And I say this about Job. We love him, but we don't know him.

Well, that's a scary note because in Matthew 7 it says, when they come to the Lord and they said to the Lord, haven't we cast out demons in your name? Haven't we done many mighty miracles in your name? Jesus says, go away. I don't know you. I never knew you. I never knew you. I never knew you.

We could get on a conversation about that. We'll have to do that off the air. So tell me more about how you had this business and you didn't really want to be Christian. So how did the Lord, what did he do in your life? Well, for about two or three weeks, I actually slept on the couch in my house. My wife wanted to go to church I went okay, you go to church we had two young children, five and three

and I said you go and do that, I'm actually I don't want to be a part of this so I did everything at home to try and talk her out of going and becoming a Christian, nothing worked she was just behind every great man is a great woman.

We thank you, Judy. Sounds like you helped lead this man to the Lord. She did. Thank you, Judy. 100%. It is Judy, right? Yes, that's right. And then she just persisted.

And I thought, oh, well, I know. I was raised a Catholic and been to churches and all that sort of thing. And I just wrapped it all up in a box and went, if I go along, I'll be able to see the hypocrisy, pull it apart, and then say, look, see, no, no, let's get out of here. The exact opposite happened.

I went with these people. It was a spirit-filled church, not what we imagine charismatic with all of this silly comings and goings. Not like the charismatic zoo where we're jumping off chandeliers? No. This was straightforward. They operated in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. They all received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. When I went there, I saw something I'd never seen anywhere in my life before. And it took me two or three weeks more because my stubborn hard heart. And then I got to a point and I said to myself, if you walk away from this, you have got to be the biggest fool on the planet.

That was 40 years ago. Then Jesus has taken me on this incredible adventure. It's just been amazing. And I just wouldn't swap it for anything. I just think it's important for people to hear that because it sounds like by the world standards, you had it all. Yeah, we did. But there was a part of you that was not fulfilled because you did not have Jesus Christ. Yes. We can, we can, there's this, like, I believe there's like, it's almost like there's this hole in our heart that like we, we try to bandaid it and fill it with so many things and money and, and, and cars and houses and even our own family, but it can only be filled with Jesus Christ. And until you've,

that hole has been filled with Jesus Christ, you're not going to be fulfilled. Yeah. But he still has blessed you along the way with business and finances, but you did not put money on a pedestal and you said, God, I put you first. Am I hearing that correctly? That's exactly what happened. If we have Jesus, we have everything. If you don't have Jesus Christ, you don't have anything. You're right. It doesn't matter if you're Elon Musk. Yeah. You're still poor and destitute. You have nothing. Eternally, you're going to end up totally void. So good. So we're going to shift. You have a book sitting in front of you. I know you've written multiple books. I don't know if maybe you can also even put it on the screen, Judah, or how you'd like to do it. But you know you guys know who watch the show regularly

this ain't church y'all this is all about the kingdom of god uh daniel's book christianity is not a religion it is relationship tell us about the book it starts where what happened from the start god god is a story the bible Bible is a story. So I go through how sin entered our world. We had a sinless world. That's what God created. That's what he made. And we had a world totally without sin. No disease, no war, no corruption, no pollution, no hate, no strife, no anger. That was the world that God intended for mankind. What happened was when, and we read it, and you have to read the scriptures and look at who Satan was called

before he was named Satan and all the names he has now. He had these incredible names. He was a high angel in heaven. Right. What happened was that when God said, God made a declaration, I'm going to create a being that is going to be second to us, second to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, above the angels, above all you angels. And the only way I will do this, if I give them free will. And then if they then choose me just for who I am, not what I can

give them or what I can do for them, just make that choice. God, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, just for who He is. This beautiful, this amazing being that loves us incredibly. That's what He declared in heaven. Love always gives a choice, right? It gives us a choice. He doesn't force us to love him. Well, then Satan and a third of the angels rebelled against that. You're not going to make this creation

that's going to be above us. You're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. That's the sin of Satan is rebellion. That's the sin of modern day. You look at one of the greatest causes of all of the strife we have it's pure rebellion yeah against god so therefore he set about to turn around and rob god of his children god wanted had one incredible son he wanted a bigger

family that was us and he gives us that opportunity to be his family. He loves us so much and he cares so much about the nuclear family. It's one of the reasons the enemy tries to take it out. Yeah. So the book is about that. The book is about understanding God, the being of God, the aspects of God, the infiniteness of God, the all-powerful. Hey, you're a brilliant guy too. And so I don't always have the best habit of always reading a book all the way through, but I have read a decent amount of your book. And I believe you talk about uh the scientific because god is in

science and you talk about the scientific part would you call it apologetics is that what you call it and some of your the things that you talk about right yeah it's actually quite fascinating it's really good because i know people um i'm not like necessarily i don't call that like my strength but i know a lot of people who are all about that. It's a great book as far as that component as well. We don't understand God. We finite do not understand infinite. We do not understand omnipotent or powerful. Right.

We don't understand omnipresent everywhere in every part. We don't understand God. It's kind of like an ant trying to understand metaphysics sometimes. Well, but we do because of what we've now discovered in the universe. We can start to see the being of God. There are one to two trillion galaxies they believe in the universe. In our galaxy, the Milky Way, there are 100 to 400 billion stars. Our galaxy is 100,000 light years across.

The galaxy Andromeda next door is 200,000 light years across. It is 2.2 times the size of our galaxy. Our star that this planet revolves around is one of between one and 400 billion stars so when the scriptures tell us god goes that's the universe measures it with the span of his hand then we get some understanding of the magnitude of god and then we get some understanding of the awe and the respect of god instead of trying to shrink him down to a man all the time, we can push around and we can tell what to do and we can create this idol that we want to imagine about God. God's not like that. Right. It's interesting because I was actually speaking last week in front of a group and I was saying, you know, all on the same lines. I mean, God, can you imagine if you were standing in

front of the sun right now what that would be like the the sun like the i'm talking about the sun that rotate the earth rotates around it'll burn you up in seconds god created the sun we talk about a healthy fear of the lord i mean god created the sun well all stars 600 billion trillion stars get all their energy from god they don't get there's if you look at and you can do anyone can google it you can look at the hottest temperature that they believe has ever been recorded in history and it's 142 with 30 zeros after it degrees centigrade. That has no impact on God whatsoever. If I boil a jug of water to 100 degrees centigrade and I put it here on this table and I get the strongest or the most powerful man on our planet

and say, stick your hand in that water, only 100 degrees centigrade, you see how long they can put their hand there. It would be a split right so that's gives us some ideas of the magnitude of god we are just i learned a new word last week you're obviously a very smart guy you probably know this word but um theophany you familiar with theophany no i haven't okay Okay, well, you can learn something today too. It's called, it's a physical appearance of God to a human being. Because if God came to us

in all His glory, we can't stand that. Our bodies, our souls, He comes, you look, He came as a, you know, God appeared as a man. He came as this, right? Through Jesus. Appeared as a man. He appeared as a burning bush to Moses, right? Through Jesus. Appeared as a man.

He appeared as a burning bush to Moses, a pillar of a cloud of fire. Nobody actually saw God's face. And I actually read this. Nobody saw God's actual face to avoid such fatal encounters. But he loves us so much. I mean, it's amazing when you think about how great he is,

but then he comes and he makes his home in us. Yeah. He loves us so much. I mean, it's amazing when you think about how great he is, but then he comes and he makes his home in us. Yeah. He loves us so much. We read in Deuteronomy 33 where it says that if you see the face of God, man can't see the face of God, yet he dies. And yet in the same chapter, and this is where people get, they confuse the Bible. They don't understand the Bible. They don't understand God. In the same chapter, it this is where people get, they confuse the Bible. They don't understand the Bible.

They don't understand God. In the same chapter, it turns around and it says that God dined with the 70 elders. Aaron, Moses, and the 70 elders. He died, had a meal with them. And they saw him face to face. Who's that talking about? Jesus Christ. Yes.

So we can't see the face of God the Father, but Jesus and God the Father. To see me is to have seen my Father. So we don't, because we don't understand, and then we say, oh, the Bible contradicts itself. No, it doesn't. It never does. The Word of God written by 40 authors over 1,500 to 2,000 years. Men contradict the Bible. Not one word in it contradicts it.

Right. It's amazing. That's really good. So we're talking about the relationship. Clearly, you've been walking with the Lord for 40 years. So can you talk about that relationship and maybe just some of the things that he's taught you just from hearing his voice, from spending intimate time alone with God, maybe what that's looked like.

Maybe you can teach some things to our viewers. It takes time to get to know anyone. You've got to spend time intimate with them. And he's the senior partner, so we subject ourselves to him. We humble ourselves to him. What happens in prayer with all of us? We go to prayer and it's all I want, I need, you this, you this, you that, boom, boom, boom, boom, my list. Genie in a bottle, what can you do for me, God?

Right? Don't go to God that way. Exactly. Matthew 11, verse 28. Come unto me, all you that are laboring and heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Come and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart,

and I will give you rest to your souls. For my yoke is easy, my burden is light. When we go to the Lord, and I talk about this, how you pray into the Holy of Holies, then when you're there, then how you pray out from the Holy of Holies. You're praying in partnership with Christ, with Jesus Christ, the maker of heaven and earth. When we do that with him,

and he is teaching us and he is showing us, we just grow and we grow and we learn this aspect of god and then we want to know more and we read his word and we just sit down and we meditate on that and drink it in and let the living word of god speak to us don't read your bibles just to read your bible right don't have a bible with commentary in it. If I can tell everyone. I agree 100%. And I teach the same thing because that might be one man's opinion of what the Scripture is saying. And you will never.

And they could be wrong. And a lot of times they are. No matter how intelligent you are, you will never walk away and be able to separate the Scripture from a man's interpretation. That's the first thing that will happen. The second thing that will happen is you will not develop your relationship with god what is john 14 you know you know what john 14 says the holy spirit is the ultimate teacher he will teach you all things that's right the holy spirit will give you the revelation on the scripture that's the new covenant yes you know jeremiah 31 hebrews 8 and 10

written three times in our bible i will teach you and they know me to teach you I will write my laws on your mind and place them on your heart when we do that so when we're reading our Bible and we're communicating Jesus says come as a child come and ask me why that why this why that

why Jesus why why yes childlike faith my friend John Martin who's been a guest on the show, he says that questions are portals, which I love that. Ask questions. Ask him, why is the scripture like this? Why did you say this to these people? Why did you do that? Yes. What's a little kid do? Children come up and they go, please, daddy, please. Yes. Why? Why? Drive you nuts. Yeah, I have four of them at home, and three of them just turned four a couple days ago. I get questions all the time, all day long.

And I love it. Even though sometimes it is a little annoying. But you know what? God has more grace than I do, too. But what's it doing, though? It's building the relationship. Yeah, of course. Because you're looking them face to face.

You're answering their questions. You are developing their relationship with you.. You are developing their relationship with you. And they're developing their relationship with you. It's building this trust and this beauty. God is no different. He's this perfect father. He wants us to approach him the same way. Absolutely.

That's why I always say, you know, if eternal life is to have intimacy and to know Jesus Christ, the relationships that we have with each other matter so much too. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. That's good. So we, you know, Tom always flies on the show. Thank you guys for watching. Thank you for listening. Thank you for commenting and liking. Thank you for sharing the show. I mean, this is, I think it's been a fascinating show and we've got so many, you can't ever say we don't talk about the Bible on this show. We have a lot of good scripture on this show today, don't we? We've spouted out a lot of scripture.

I can see you are a man that knows his word, knows the scriptures. I love it. So we are going to go into another segment of the show here. We're about 15 minutes left, but time flies when you're having fun, doesn't it? So here we go. All right. This is interesting. I think this is, this is exciting for me. And I think this is going to be exciting for you. So I remember when we sat down and talked last week and I asked you about prophecy, I said, do you believe in the spirit of prophecy? You said, absolutely. So I actually have a word for you. Are you okay,

Daniel Murphy? If I release a prophetic word for you. Are you okay, Daniel Murphy, if I release a prophetic word to you live on the show? Yes. Okay. So this is from my friend, Chris. He's what I call a prophet seer. He's a high level intercessor. He intercedes for our show. And many times when the guests come on the show, before they come on, he will go to my Facebook page. He'll just look at a picture of them. The Lord starts downloading his stuff. Well, he said for you this week, a lot of times it will happen like an hour before the guest comes on the show. He said for you, when I announced who our guest was for this week, last week, he didn't see a face.

All he heard was a name. And the Lord started downloading him stuff about Daniel Murphy. Very interesting. So very interesting. So he was excited when he released this to me today. All right. So, and what excited me is because what I feel the Lord has been showing me about you and what I've seen in just the short conversations we've had, you just need to know that I have not, did not mention one thing about you to this man. So you're just going to have to trust it's the Lord. Okay. So he said, while praying for Daniel, the Lord spoke the following words, man of mystery, intriguing. The definition intriguing is arousing one's curiosity or interest. Fascinating, which that's already a word I see for you is fascinating. I want to know more.

Then the Lord spoke, finances are a strength for you. I have given him assignments. Heroes is what I call them. Those that listen to me and follow my lead. He has been obedient and will continue to follow my voice. Trustworthy, excels in all he puts his hands to. I have given you the green light to continue down this path, the one we have constructed together. There are roadblocks ahead, but you will have the ability to work through each one. Then the Lord showed him a vision in the spirit,

I thought this was interesting, of a real estate developer, as of a large bulldozer driving down a road and the Lord spoke, this is a huge project. He has the right, you have the right equipment. Ministries are depending on this project. It will feed the lost and the broken in many ways. The financial cap is astronomical.

A term used, worldly term, but anyways, this would describe what you are about to embark into in the coming days. The words he needs to hear are written on this page. Go, go, go. That's from the Lord is what I say. I got your back. Nothing can stop you. I've seen the beginning and know the end. You are a knight covered in armor, escorted by my heavenly host. You are fierce and you are a fighter. And then the Lord said, victory. And I hear cheering in the heavenlies. Hallelujah. You receive that? Isn't that so spot on? 100%. I mean, for what we've talked about. And so I don't know if you're open to talking about this on the air, but I found it fascinating to how God is orchestrating our relationship for the region. And, you know, we had this event, a lot of people

know have been part of, or even united the regions, we united both sides of the mountain, bridged the gap. And I did not know what that looked like for 2025. I didn't want to just put an event together because it was amazing this year. I want to do, you know, people will put things together just because it was great one year and try to duplicate it. I'm not trying to duplicate that. I want to see what the Lord wants to do for this coming year, right? And so I started talking to you about this vision and you guys are building a barn, a beautiful barn in Greene County. And we had a discussion and now that I'm saying it on the air, I guess we got to do it. But that barn is supposed to be finished in the next one to two months.

And so this event for Bridge the Gap 2025, it looks like we're going to be doing that on your property in Green County for Bridge the Gap. Yes, that's right. And it's a massive project, and it's for the kingdom of God. And there's so many components to it. Are you okay to talk about some of this project, or do you prefer not to on the air?

No, I'd love to not. Because I mean, I would like to hear more about it. I know our viewers would too. What God is calling you to do because I'm not going to give labels, but God has given you apostolic vision. How about that? Thanks, thanks, Nick. So talk about what he's calling you to do in this region.

The Lord has called me to do something fairly specific. Well, it's very specific, Nate. What we're watching right now is the death of our world. And it's going through these death throes. It's terrible to watch. As we move away from God, we're killing our world. It's suffering under sin yes it's under the weight of the sin we're just destroying our planet my next book that i'm

writing is is called the death and destruction of a death and resurrection of our world so what god's wanting us to do is to prepare for his return jesus christ is coming back i believe that is now so close no one can can date the day. We know the time because it's in scripture, but we don't know the year and we don't know the date. But Jesus said, look, you will discern the seasons. What God is asking me to do, or has been asking me to do for some years now, is to prepare places for people, Christian communities, where we can come together and we can actually get people through it. The gospel will be preached right up until the day Jesus returns.

How is that going to happen? We've got to have communities. We've got to have people that can go through anything, no matter what comes. So God is calling us to do that. I'm doing that in India, Australia, and here in America. God is opening doors in other places as well. So that we can function like the first century church. Jesus, he's not happy with a lot of the stuff we do. He is not happy with what we have introduced into the church. He is not happy with what we have thrown out. I agree.

He's not okay with us doing just whatever we want to do he doesn't want a cookie cutter church just pumped out the same this the same that he's wanting people that are his subjects submitted surrendered to him if he's not lord of all he's not lord at all, he's not Lord at all. It's very simple. Is Jesus Lord of everything in your life? Can we honestly say to ourselves, any one of us, that I live out the great commandment? I love the Lord thy God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. Can any one of us really, truly say that? I can't. I honestly cannot make that statement but yet i can you know why because god to me is more important than life he is more important if i want god the father son and holy spirit i'm so much in love with jesus christ that it is more i'm so hungry to be with him. He is more to me than the very life I live.

Therefore, I live out that great commandment. That's what he wants. This is not negotiable. There's no a second one and a third one. God said the great commandment. So what we do is we love him. How we display that love? Through our obedience.

That's what he said. If you love me, you'll obey my commandments. And it wasn't, if you love me, obey my commands. It was, if you love me, obey my commands. Amen. And if you don't, don't. It's fine. I can see that you're an obedient man of God.

I'll ask you this. You said you're doing this in Australia and India. Why, as he revealed to you, and if you can't say that's fine, but why do you think he's called you to do that in Greene County? It was amazing. Because I don't know why you're here. I don't mean that in a bad way, but I don't know. It's like, why are you here? Because I don't meet people like, and Jerry and Judah know this because they're all me. Sometimes they're like, well, let's get more people in the studio because many times we're doing it on Zoom because these kingdom people like they're amazing, but they're in different parts of the world. I just don't see people like you running around every street corner here in central Virginia.

So I'm blessed that you're here. Very appreciative you're here. But why? It's the Lord put it on my heart a years ago to do this and then covid really made it happen um we came to um i think it's probably 10 or 11 years ago we we had just been in israel we flew across to philadelphia and then i've always i've wanted to be an American and live in America for 30 years America's in the Bible twice and I just know God's got your Judeo-Christian DNA it's your DNA you scratch an American you're going to get Jesus some way it's that simple hey I know the Lord

loves America how about that oh he loves Americans So you people, and there's not an American I've ever spoken to, and you talk about Jesus, you will get some in some way. In Australia, they go, oh, ho-hum. Oh, okay, yeah, right. It's not like that here. You guys have got this DNA in your character. That's good to hear. I like that.

So we started driving down from Philadelphia. We come down, we hit Culpeper, you know that's good to hear i like that so we we we'd started driving down from philadelphia we come down we hit cold pepper you know and we just went man this place it's like no other place on earth it is just beautiful it is beautiful isn't it yeah and then the lord over those coming years he gave us one farm then two farm he gave us one farm, then two farm. He gave us our commercial property where Murphy's Coffee and Bagel House is. He's given us 20 acres of commercial property right on the edge of Albemarle County and Greene County. So that doesn't happen. God's just joining the dots and going,

and then, look, I don't know the end story, but he does. So therefore, I'll just be obedient and go, righto, you do a farmer's market there and a barn there and you do this and you do that. Well, talk a little more about the barn specifically, about what it's going to, I mean, your purpose is for the kingdom, but it'll also be a, I guess you can call it a business as well, right? Can you talk about that component of it?

Well, we want to do a farmer's market there, which will connect us to all of the farmers in Virginia. But we're also seeing it being used, utilised for exactly the sort of thing you're talking about. It's going to be like the grand opening, in a lot of ways, of that barn, this Bridge the Gap 25. Absolutely. Which very much excites me.

Yeah. And then from there, I would love to see us set up what we call in Australia a bush church. What you could then have is you won't get a lot of people, you will not get to go to a normal church. They just feel they wouldn't fit in. They feel they're embarrassed and they're the marginalized and they're the different and they're the marginalised and they're the different and they're the ex-cons and ex-strategics and that sort of thing. God wants them to. So God will give us a place where they can come and they can be relaxed and we do it in Australia and then we can sit around all in a very comfortable, easy place, and help them to understand their creator. Help them to understand their savior.

And we'll do that. So we want to do that there as well so we can reach the totally unreached, the ones that will never get reached. And we can bring them to Christ to come to know Christ. Amen. Well, I'm excited, brother. I'm excited that you're in our community and that God has called you here. And through your vision, the Lord has given you and your properties.

And I'm just excited for it. So we are about to wrap up on time. I always ask people, and you're not prepared for this, and you may not have anything on your heart specifically, but I always ask people, what do you have that you want to, for the city of Charlottesville, just for this region, anything else you want to add, or for the show, our show here, White Mountain specifically, anything on your heart? I think I've pretty much said it all night. You know, you just... I love the church,

but we've got so much we've got to get back to and so much we've actually got to push away all of this really, really bad teaching, you know, and we need to push it away. It's been introduced. Read the Bible. In virtue, all of the New Testament for Acts on is where the apostles are fighting

to stop stuff coming into the church and fighting for the church to maintain itself, to maintain the body of Christ in purity and in holiness and in righteousness. They fought that fight and they died for it. They died for us to have the truth. And now we've just turned around and thrown so much of it away and introduced all of this rubbish. You're right.

Well, we've made it into religion and not relationship. Exactly. And that sums it up, right? So I'm honored that you came on the show with us today. I had a lot of fun. And, you know, it's a funny thing we talk about, you know, this is about being about the kingdom of God and not church or religion. We were getting ready to do the show. And every time I've met you, I'm a hat guy. Are you a hat? You're a hat guy, right? Every time I've met you, you have on a hat. And I guess you're about to show some respect for the

show. I mean, you look good in that hat, but you're about to take it off. We got two good looking bald men here, but we look good in hats, right? And I said, Daniel, i said daniel i said this is not religion here brother i said if you want to wear that hat you wear that hat you kept the hat on so i know you're a hat guy so anyways you know i what i was laughing before the show i said god does just as much through me when i wear a hat as when i'm not wearing a hat yeah let the religious mind take that in okay so? So bless you, brother. We appreciate you. We love you. And, again, we're just excited to have you in this region when you're with us. And I know this is the beginning of our, you know, I shouldn't even say the beginning, but this is just part of the journey.

And so honored to be connected with you. So, guys, we appreciate you for watching and listening today. Please share the show. Go to Murphy's Coffee Shop. Check it out. I mean, I've had so many divine encounters for that place. we appreciate you for watching and listening today please share the show uh go to murphy's coffee shop check it out i mean i've i've had so many divine encounters for that place people that i've prayed for uh staff members that i've prayed for you don't even know this i've prayed for staff members over the years that have been crying the lord will just clear out the store and i've prayed for them when they've been behind the counter people crying tears and so i know that the lord is uh i remember one time I went there and

was meeting with another pastor and two bald eagles flew right in front of us, right in front of that pond out on the back. And they were there for like a minute, just hanging out. And then they went their separate way. So I've seen some supernatural things on that property. So I know it's being used for the kingdom of God. So check out Murphy's. And so next week we are going to have John Questenberry on the show, another local man who's going to be in studio. Been doing amazing things, you know, for the region here for many years. So we're excited to have John. So I just thank you guys once again. Share the show. I speak life and love and healing of your minds and your bodies in the name of Jesus.

And I thank you for watching and God bless. We'll see you next week. Thank you.