The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Disastrous Hollymead Child Predator Meeting; AlbCo School Leadership Unprepared/Defensive W/ Parents

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the water cooler of content and conversation. This show, this hour, Monday through Friday from 1230 to 130 across all platforms, is the most watched, listened to, and engaged upon media platform in all of Central Virginia. There's only one brand, in fact, that reaches more people across all platforms, and that's UVA. It's UVA1, it's I Love Seville Second, and it's not even close. The reason what we're doing is working is because we have long-form content. We can take deep dives into topic matter that's important to the community.

Frankly, the reason this works is we're unaffiliated, we're unafraid, and we're unabashed with our commentary and our analysis. I've been working in media for nearly 25 years now. Jerry Rackleff hired a rising third year at the University of Virginia. I walked in into the Daily Progress Newsroom on Ryo Road, not with any kind of newspaper clippings, but I walked into his newsroom with some creative writing essays that I did for a creative writing course my first year at the University of Virginia. And I basically begged Jerry Rackleff as a rising third year for a part-time job because at the time I was not sure what I was going to do professionally with my life. And I was watching all my classmates,

all my fraternity brothers in FIcapa-S-I have internships on Wall Street, internships and finance, pursue graduate, you know, past graduate degrees or pursuing the entrance exams and the entrance applications to those graduate programs all while I was pounding beers and closing down the bars at Coopteville's. Then it was called O'Neills, then it was called Orbits, then it was called Biltmore. I was lost. I knew I liked the right. I knew I had things to say, and I knew I love sports. So I walked in the summer before my third year with two essays from a creative writing course my first year, walked into Jerry Rackcliffe's newsroom, his sports department. He was eating a big bacon classic from Wendy's at the time, had some French fries on his desk, a Coca-Cola

next to his computer keyboard, and I said, Mr. Rackleff, I love your writing. I read it as much as possible. I'm a diehard UVA sports fan. Here are two essays that I wrote. two papers that I wrote in a creative writing class. One was five page and one was one page. I left it with him and I said, may I please prove my worth to you, sir? I then arrived back to his newsroom. Two days later, we sat down, we spoke and said, I'll give you a crack in a part-time job.

And here I am nearly 25 years later, 25 in August, of working in media in some capacity. And I'm going to tell you, and those 25 years of working in media, and those 25 years of connecting with people through the written word, through the spoken word, through broadcast television,

through AM radio, and through now live streaming on 27 unique podcasting platforms at the same damn time. There is not a storyline that infuriates me more. There is not a storyline that makes my blood boil more than adults praying on kids.

Okay? There's gray area of behavior that happens all the time in life. But adults praying on children, especially elementary age kids, when they're in school, when their parents believe that they are at their safest, safest scenario, except maybe when they're in their home themselves, is the most despicable of behavior. And I mentioned with my wife, had this have been our two sons, one of our two sons, both of our two sons that were caught up on this, the devil's rage would have been felt. Lucifer himself would have been present.

And I swear on that. And last night there was a meeting at Holly Meade Elementary. You had two Almaro County school board members, Supervisor Berlin, Supervisor Lee. you had the superintendent of schools Dr. Matthew Haas and you had the principal of the school. His name McCauley, is that right? That's correct. McCauley?

Yeah. That allocated one hour of time. They said it wasn't going to go over an hour to answer the questions of parents in a town hall fireside chat scenario. Of course it went more than an hour and of course they tried to shut it down and of course the parents didn't listen.

And by the end of the first hour, we had a screaming match, we had profanity, we had tempers raised, and we had school board members, Berlin and Lee, Superintendent Haas, and Principal McCauley, basically and, you know, embarrassing Almaro County. Their behavior was defensive, their behavior was unprepared, their behavior was nonchalant, and that further infuriated the parents who were wrong, rightfully angry. And when your elected leadership, and when your superintendent leadership, and when your

principal leadership acts petty, rolls their eyes, acts combative and defensive, and clearly shows tendencies of being unprepared, it's going to piss a whole lot of people off, and that's what's happened. And today, we have parents that are infuriated. We have one mother who is openly offering her commentary on Reddit and on Facebook, openly offering her commentary on all and any social media platforms for anyone who will listen. And is basically saying, my child is one of these kids, 11, that got caught up with this teacher. Like she's being as vulnerable as it gets. Her name is associated with these posts on Reddit.

it, it's anonymous. On Facebook, it's not. And she's openly saying that I'm going to do whatever I possibly can to figure out what happened, whether we were lied to or not, and how this was mismanaged.

And she's looking to connect with the few community members who would be willing to help with the serious student safety and district accountability concern. I salute this mom, good God, the vulnerability this woman is showing openly. saying that my kid is one of them that got sexually assaulted, and I am willing to be the alpha dog, the courageous one to organize, strategize, and galvanize the community for transparency,

to seek transparency, to seek better communication, and to hold people accountable. God, that is superhero walking on the planet right now. Because there's a lot of parents here, and it's not right or wrong. I'm not calling behavior right or wrong. there's a lot of parents here that would fear anger that would yield shame or anger that would yield clandestine response. This is anger that is yielding clarity of thought and leadership. And that right there, ladies and gentlemen, is an indication of a leader. Someone that is taking an emotion that can otherwise cloud judgment, but use that emotion to fuel fire, to galvanize a group of people to make the right steps in decision making,

those are few and far between those type of community members. That's one of the things that I admire about Mike Koch is the chief of police in Charlottesville. This guy's got a level of confidence that's contagious, a level of communication that yields engagement. He listens to learn, and then once he learns, he acts and people follow. And this mom that is doing this on social media on the Charlottesville Magic Mama's Facebook page, on the Charlottesville subreddit, this mom that's posting as herself on social media, I salute you.

Because you would handle this so much differently. You are handling this so much differently than me, and I'm going to be straight up. Maybe in this circumstance, I would be nearly as good as a leader of you. I would respond it in a way that would probably put my family in more jeopardy than it already was. So I want to respond and react on the Thursday edition of the I Love Seville show

on what was an utter shit show last night in Halloween. And now you're watching a community in crowdsource capacities calling for heads to roll. And Superintendent Matthew Haas, the embattled leader of Almore County Public Schools, basically has his face on a dartboard in a lot of parents' basements right now. We're going to ask some very real questions on the show today. And I want you, the viewer, and listener to join us in the discussion and ask the questions as well, because neither Judah nor I will profess to be experts in anything like this. We have a platform, and we talk about topics that are local that matter.

That's what we do. And we encourage you, the viewer, and listener to join us in the discussion and shape the conversation. I have questions like this. why was leadership unprepared and defensive with parents yesterday? I have questions like this. Parents, you should be lawyering up right now and pursuing some kind of legal action against Almore County Public Schools, some kind of class action. Judah's got questions.

Let's weave you in on a two-shot. So in our pre-production meeting, you asked questions that I thought were very pertinent as well. We'll take your questions to viewers and listeners as well. Judah, your questions that you had that were pertinent to this storyline. Please pass them on to the viewers and listeners. Let's see. I had some concerns about the fact that all school employees are mandatory reporters. I have to believe that the teachers, since we know that reports date back to August of 2024,

we have to believe that some of the teachers, the teachers made reports on this guy. And I think the only plausible answer to that is that they were ignored, which is horrifying to think of. As we mentioned yesterday, and again, you know, the fact that the report started almost two years ago and the police didn't start an investigation, weren't told about anything until January of this year. Just speaks of a... I mean, how do you not act on information like this? Do you not believe that the accusations are real?

I mean, I think that's part of what makes... Why we have mandatory reporting in schools. It's not about what you believe. It's about if there is any, even the slightest, reasonable belief that an accusation like this is real. You take it 100% serious. 100%. I have questions like this. How is a teacher able to take an elementary age student into a classroom and lock the door behind them? That is terrible. And the fact that this guy is... How is that allowed, folks? Well, do you know what the guy's role is?

Go ahead. He is, let me see if I can find it. He's a... He's a social, emotional learning coach, which I believe during the meeting last night, it was superintendent Dr. Matthew Haas. Yeah, said he's not considered a licensed physician. He's more like a teaching assistant. Which the parents then push back on that. How is a teaching assistant allowed to be in meetings with administrators, teachers, and parents? Yeah.

Because a teaching assistant is not in a private meeting when it's a mom and dad, a school administrator, the kid's teacher, and then this swine guy. TAs don't do that. Another parent pushed back yesterday and said, yeah, this dude was also carrying a walkie-talkie and had communication mythology within the elementary school. Teaching assistants don't have that, Matthew Haas. Right. So, Superintendent Matthew Haas in the meeting yesterday is trying to. marginalize the role, marginalize the impact, diminish the impact, the influence, the involvement, this swiney fellow had at the elementary school. When teachers at Almaro County and its public

school system are saying, no, that's not true. Teaching assistants don't have walkie-talkies, and teaching assistants don't sit in private meetings with administrators and teachers and parents. That's BS. The locking of doors with kids inside, is, I mean, that is absurd. Locking a door in a school with a kid in it and a white adult male in his upper 30s, there's also one of the moms that's leading the charge here has done some heavy investigation and has found this swine fellow that there was nasty, nasty rumor mill and allegations swirling around him while working for a group home.

His employer prior to being at Woodbrook Elementary. Huh. So here you have... If she found out information like that, it goes to the question of how was this not picked up by a standard background check? Yeah. I mean, what is going on? And to go back to locking kids in rooms, Haas told parents yesterday that they're going to look at changing the policy so that those types of meetings are not allowed.

But he also said that most neighboring counties, that there are sometimes prohibitions against that type of thing. It's an industry-wide standard, that you don't allow a single teacher to be in a locked room with the student. Stacey Baker-Patty is watching the program. She has proven to be a fantastic viewer and listener of this show.

Stacey Baker-Patti, a trusted viewer and listener of this show. She's been commenting on this show for years now. And Stacey Baker-Patti leaves this comment on one of the 27 social media platforms that this show is airing upon. When was this swiny guy awarded the Game Changer Award by Al-Moral County Public Schools? It was on a Facebook post that was, of course, now removed. Was it after any of these allegations? Almore County Public Schools acknowledged the Swiny Fellow with an award called the Game Changer Award

and posted the acknowledgement on social media. And that social media post has since been scrubbed from the interwebs. Conan Owen is watching the program. His photo on screen echoes of the Loudoun County fiasco with the bathroom rapes. here in Alamara County Public Schools. I, you know, she's posting all over social media. I'm going to highlight what Lisa Ann has posted all over social media,

including the Charlottesville Magical Mama's group. This post has been sent to me probably a hundred times today. And I'm going to read what I think is true leadership here from Lisa Ann. and I'm going to read verbatim what she's posted on social media so it cannot be taken out of context in any capacity. You have lower thirds that you can be rotating on screen, headlines associated with this. This is from Lisa Ann.

I'm reading verbatim what she posted on social media. I am looking to connect with a few community members who may be willing to help with serious student safety and district accountability concern. At this stage, I am trying to stay focused on facts, documentation, proper reporting channels, and public records requests. I am not looking to spread rumors, make accusations online, or discuss confidential student information.

I would especially appreciate help from anyone with experience in public records and FOIA requests, education law or school board procedures, child safety and mandated reporting, Title IX or student protection policies, organizing documents, and timelines, taking notes at public meetings, and communicating with state agencies or oversight bodies. The goal is simple. I want to make sure the right questions are asked, records are preserved, proper agencies are notified,

and students are protected. If you have relevant experience, you're willing to help quietly and responsibly, please message me. She also posted this. I went to the meeting at Holly Mead, and it was an absolute disaster. They spoke in circles, were disrespectful.

At one point, the woman from the school board started yelling at parents. They refused to take accountability on anything. I'm worried I made a fool of myself because in front of everyone, I confronted Principal McCauley. But I truly believe that Superintendent Matthew Haas needs to be removed. He openly shrugged. He rolled his eyes. He refused to answer and basically said he does not feel like he did anything wrong.

me and other parents brought up multiple times that Haas does not reply to emails or phone calls ever and he just kept saying, quote, that's not true, end quote. I want to attempt to figure out how to go about getting the school board to vote on this because he mismanaged this whole thing. He refused to explain why Swiney was allowed to transfer from Woodbrook. He refused to tell anyone what steps they'd take next. He admitted that they have no policy for students. being alone with adults and that it was common sense not to be alone.

When it was brought up that they've had six months to prepare, but they were acting like this just dropped yesterday, he just floundered and stared at everyone. And then Haas refused to answer any more questions. Last night's meeting at Halee Mead is the definition of piss-poor public relations, and last night's meeting at Haleemie was the definition of piss-poor-poor-collar collateral damage management. There was no strategy in play.

And today, parents are more infuriated than they've ever been. And correct me if I'm wrong. There's a school board meeting tonight. Any viewer and listener can confirm? Can you pull up the school board calendar? Vanessa Park Hill watching the program. So resource officers are danger to students, but the social and emotional coach accused of abuse

was given an award by Almar K. public schools. Make it make sense. We live in a society. Okay, I should change the words here. We live in a community called Al Morrow County and Charlottesville City where police and schools are villainized and criminalized. And we live in a community called Charleston, Almorea County where the social and emotional teacher is able to be a deviant with children and pray on kids. as Vanessa Parkhill said make that make sense William McChesney watching the program

and the scouting organization too deep leadership is mandatory adult leaders are never allowed to be alone with an individual or scouts dude I in a sport scenario in an athletic scenario in an area

where a bunch of kids are playing sports like say squash I don't want to be one on one with any kids I have enough comments everyone has the common sense don't be in a room alone with a closed door with a child that is not yours this is like you need oxygen to breathe

yeah it's simple and this is like when you cross the road you need to look on the left and the right before you cross the road you don't be at a room alone with a kid that's not your own and certainly not with the door closed and without question not with the door locked

yeah I've found an event for June 11th that is today 6.30 p.m. at Lane Auditorium on McIntyre Road. There's a school board meeting tonight. Yeah, regular school board meeting. Rebecca Berlin and Judy Lee should be eviscerated in the public comment, viewers and listeners. Parents of Almaro County, even if you're not a parent, if you had a kid in Almore County Public Schools, if you're a tax in Almore County. The school board should be

eviscerated tonight. And I'm going to tell you right now, the collapsing of the House of Cards, the straw that breaks the back, is a paper trail documentation of one teacher or one

employee making administration and leadership aware about some kind of deviant behavior months or years ago. anything before January of this year. Because if there's any paper trail documentation from any mandated reporter that swine in any capacity was showing tendencies of being a deviant, a predator, an assaulter, whatever creepy,

whatever devilish, lucifer-esque comparison you want to make here, that paper trail is the takedown of the public school system. damning. And I also want to know how many more are involved here, Judah. How many children? Yeah. I mean, that's the sad part. We don't yet know. Because there's 11 counts as of now. Yeah. Stacey Baker, Patty, I trust her judgment on stuff like this. She's a mom. It's odd that the board is just now going to look into the policy about meeting with kids behind closed doors when apparently allegations started in 2020. as he was placed on leave six months ago, but the board quickly addressed a policy on guest speakers allowed in high school.

While I don't think it's a bad idea to have a policy about guest speakers, something like these child predator allegations would be a bit more serious and pressing. Priorities seem backwards, but sadly not at all surprising. Here's what she's saying, okay? This is what she's saying succinctly. The school board, in very quick fashion, put policy in play of who could speak at clubs during school hours and on school grounds, specifically targeted at Noah Cawthon and Turning Point USA Western Amaral High School's chapter.

And specifically to block a speaker that was coming in days. Right. Ms. Kirk. That happened immediately, instantaneously. Compare and contrast to the immediacy or lack thereof, on policy and protocols with white, creepy, adult males, and locked classrooms with 8, 9, 10, and 11-year-old kids. Although in this case, I wonder if the school board even knew. If the principal and the superintendent were receiving these notifications,

and tamping them down, quieting them. The school board may not have even been made aware. Handsome Hank Martin's photo on screen. Hank Martin, Jerry, unfortunately, too many families have little alternatives but to allow Almero County Public Schools to handle their child's education. And Almore County Public Schools knows this. Once you lawyer up, they exhaust those resources as well. Now, what is truly disturbing is this.

Who the hell is Swiny? Teachers said they were unaware that Swiney was not licensed in psychology or counseling, with Hoss at one point comparing him to a teacher assistant. Whiskey, Tango, Fox Trot? How do you explain the failure to follow Virginia Code 6363.2-1509? Any other institution found guilty of this would see staff arrested, facilities impounded, and asset seized. As you say, Jerry, make it make sense. sense. John Blair's photo on screen. I'd like to make two points, John Blair says. First, our children are in a

camp right now, as are a lot of kids in Charleston, Almore County. Think of how vulnerable each parent feels right now about dropping their kids off at camp. But when you drop a kid off at school, you have at least a tiny bit more confidence that the school division will use its larger resources to make sure that children are safe. I think most parents are now thinking twice about the assumption. Second, I think people are focused on the wrong thing. What exactly is the background on his time at Woodbrook? What was his position at Woodbrook?

How long was he there? Were there any complaints at Woodbrook or any of the victim's former Woodbrook students? And what exactly is the circumstance of him going from Woodbrook to Holly Mead? And he also adds John Blair, I think we should all have a moment of silence and prayer for the safety of every child in Almorel County in the city of Charlottesville. Amen. 100%. Tom Stardgill is watching the program. He's an Almaral County public school retired teacher and a Golden Apple Award winner. He says, Jerry, keep the pressure on. If this story goes three days consecutive without aggressive pressure by the public parents or your platform, then it will disappear. Haas will bury it and he wins again and always will. He's got a track record of this. This is what I think is absolutely wild. The mom that's doing the organizing has alluded that some of the law firms locally she's reached out to are refusing to take the work because the law firms do not want to go toe to toe head to head with Almarl County in any capacity. Wow. I'm curious as to why. Well, I would imagine it's because they're practicing law within Alboro County, and they're doing a risk assessment.

Do I want to fight a lawsuit against the county that I'm practicing law within? That I live here, that my kids go to school here, that I pay taxes to. I mean, it would be, I feel like it would be pretty good. This is a small enough community that, that, any kind of retaliation would be, I feel would be pretty easily actionable, but I'm not a lawyer and I'm not potentially taking this case. So it doesn't mean anything. Carly Wagner watching the program, her photo on screen, most camps, vacation Bible schools, and other child activities have policies that no adult is ever alone with a child. A hundred percent.

Dude, if I'm in a, you want to know what I do, if I'm in the bathroom, I go into a bathroom by myself. I go into a public bathroom by myself and I'm going to the bathroom and in walks after I walk in like a 9 or 10 or 11 or like even like a 14 year old kid I immediately stop whatever I'm doing and leave the bathroom I make an effort

to get out of the bathroom as quickly as possible I don't even think I was taught this I think this was just like common sense like you need oxygen to live or when you're crossing the street, you look both ways. You don't stay in a room by yourself with a kid that is not yours. Yeah. The appearance of impropriety is...

Dude, even professionally, I started this company 18 years ago, prior to being self-employed, when I was working for media general, or when I was working for ESPN radio, or Monicello Media, or NBC29, any of these media companies, even when I was in a one-on-one, setting with a colleague, especially a female colleague, I did not meet in a closed room with that

female colleague in a one-on-one setting. If she came into my office or we were in a conference room, I actively would get up and say, let's find somewhere else to meet. One circumstance, she would say, why don't we meet here in your office here? Close the door. I don't think there was no impropriety suggested. I got up, opened the door, and said, let's take this meeting to the conference room. There was a glass-walled conference room that everyone could see within.

Carly also says, or the law firms locally do not want to do the work because the school board association statewide is in Seaville. I wonder how many local attorneys have had some limited engagement with them, so it would be a conflict of interest. like how they say if you're getting divorced, meet with all the top lawyers so they have a conflict and can't take your spouse's case. That's like Tony Soprano-esque. When Tony Soprano and Carmela were looking to get divorced,

Carmela was making the move. Tony got super pissed, and the first thing Tony Soprano did was get a list of the top five or ten divorce attorneys in the tri-state area and he engaged them in some capacity, made sure that they knew he was Tony the effing soprano.

And when Carmela called up all these attorneys, Tony had already beat him to, and all the divorce attorney said, nah, Karm, get back in that Porsche Cayenne and jingle back to your New Jersey mansion because we're not working with you. We've already been engaged by the Godfather, by Tony himself.

That was literally a soprano's episode. And Tom Stardgill's point, the strategy right now from Albar County Public Schools is a strategy of time and using it against the story. Like the best thing Alamara County Public Schools could have going on right now is a 57-year-old man was found dead at the Free Bridge encampment. The best thing Alamore County Public Schools has on its hands right now is a homeless encampment under Freebridge,

or the 50-year anniversary of the downtown mall. Sadly, I think... New cycle shift. Yeah, I don't think the news cycle is going to affect parents involved in the schools, especially ones who've had children affected by this guy. Well, look who's covered this story. The only platforms that are covering this story are this platform and maybe Seville right now. All the other media outlets locally are staffed by 23-year-olds freshman college that work 18 months

and then take a job at a bigger market. They're not going to touch this story because it actually takes reporting and digging deep and diving into something. I mean, there's something on 29 news. Was it four paragraphs? No, no. It's actually pretty significant. Well, let's see what happens

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anything and everything swimming pool related in central Virginia, Charlottesville Swimmingpool Company.com. Now I have to shift topics 45 minutes into this on the water cooler of content and conversation and it puts things into perspective. Yesterday we put a list together. What's the next topic on the punch list, Judah? Top 10 most underdeveloped Seville City parcels. Yesterday we put a list together of the top 10 most underdeveloped or underutilized Charlottesville City real estate parcels. And the reason we're discussing this is because the market parking lot, the

parking lot on Water Street where the city market is held. This is the asphalt parking lot right on Water Street was purchased very recently by Woodard Properties for $15 million. Mark Brown, the Charlottesville Parking Zarr, sold this 0.99 acre property, less than one acre, to Anthony Woodard and Keith Woodard of Woodard properties for $15 million. And that was a segue. a natural one to talking about the most underutilized parcels for development in the city. Like, hear me out, this Water Street parking, put that on the lot. Put that on the list. The city market parcel, Judah, at 100 East Water Street.

Hear me out. You bought, you got a piece of dirt that has an asphalt parking lot on it that a company, a local developer, paid $15 million for. It hosts the city market on Saturday mornings from, what, 8 a.m. to 12 p.m. Are we to say that the best use of that 0.99 acres is a once-a-week farmer's market? I love the farmer's market. I love my Shandot Joe's Coffee. I love getting the tacos from the fantastic Hispanic community that makes the tacos. I like donuts. I loved craft jewelry. I like all the baked goods. I like trying the free samples.

But that's not a good use of that parcel in a under housed, landlocked, 10.2 square mile city. So the natural segue was to put a list together. I love lists. And discussing lists, I get an email yesterday from a viewer and listener that I trust that's been on the show in the past. His name Chip Boyles, the one-time city manager. Chip Boyles is dapper. Chip Boyles is likable. Chip Boyles is a conversationalist.

Chip Boyles is a guy I would belly up to a bar with and just talk about life. He said, one more very underutilized lot in Charlottesville is the, unless it's changed since I left, the Amtrak parking and building lot owned by Ali Kajin. Three plus acres privately owned train station, one of the busiest stations outside of Northern Virginia, state and federal government could help to acquire the property to become publicly owned trade station with necessary improvements to the station but privately owned development for parking and housing. Conceptual plans were developed about eight years ago and then he closed by saying, Fantastic show on Wednesday.

I want to thank Chip Boyles for watching and listening to the show and thank him for the insight that I didn't know that conceptual plans were developed for this lot eight years ago. that frankly speaking should be number three on the list here's my ranking and viewers and listeners of all shapes and sizes of all intellects of all ideologies and all persuasions help me put this list together the most underutilized parcels underdeveloped parcels in the city of charltsville that are ripe for luxury development number one is Ali Kajin and Ludwig Kooteners Ix Park. 17 or 18 acres that is home to the farmer's market part due in an eclectic mix of retailers,

a thriving brewery, and a mural of an ass with a heart on it, of a butt with a heart on it. Don't forget bad luck ramen. The looking glass. Pretty darn good. And Ludwig Kootener navigating truss. trash cans to see what treasures he can find in trash cans around his 18-acre property.

One of the most odd sights you will ever see in life is a suit-clad Ludwig Kootenar on a hundred and degree day. His beard Santa Claus-esque, his luscious gray locks, draping over his ears, tapping his shoulders that are suited with a sports coat or a jacket of some kind, the hundred-plus millionaire with his bare head. hands navigating trash to see what treasures he could find underneath them. Saw it the other day at the farmer's market, one of the most curious things I'd ever seen. I'd watched it as if I was watching a train wreck or a car accident with my car, the family explorer, Ford Explorer, driving right by it.

I'm like, what is Ludwig doing? I'm sorry. Park is number one on that list. Number two on that list, the Staples Shopping Center, also known as the former home to Vinegar Hill. More on that later. Does anyone think an asphalt parking lot that is home to a retailer that sells thumbtacks and trapper keepers and spiral three-ring binders and staple guns and printer cartridges is the future? and geez Louise how many effing parking spaces do you need for an office supply store that has no one ever in it? You've got gear hearts as well, but the fact of the matter is, you're right.

I don't think I've ever seen that parking lot more than a third filled, if that. Third filled, good night. I've never seen that. And I do the illegal thing of cutting through that parking lot all the time to avoid the traffic light at the former Lewis and Clark statue at the corner of what, Ridge and West Main? Yeah. That's number two on the list. More on that later.

Number three, I think Chip Boyles is right. It's the Amtrak Wild Wing Cafe parking lot. What the hell? On West Main Street, the gateway or the connector between downtown and grounds is a massive parking lot next to a restaurant that's been closed since the start of COVID by one of the most thriving, busy, and popular Amtrak hubs in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Two of the top three locations are owned by Alan Kajee. Number four, and he listens to the show.

Judah ridiculed the man, and I pushed back on Judah Wickhauer with his comparison of John Dewberry and Alan Kajin. I said, that's not right, Judah Wickhauer. He didn't like that. He scolded you. Okay. Number four on that list is his parking lot next to the Main Street market. That actually might be number five.

Number four on the list might be the parking lot by Sweethouse the candy store in front of Sweethouse, the former candy store. That thing is effing massive. Put that on the four spot, the West Main parking lot in front of Sweet House candy store. Just call it the Sweet House West Main parking lot. Number five on the list is got to be the. Main Street market parking lot that's for sale. Number six on the list, is it the city yard? Please explain to me why Charlottesville is storing its heavy equipment, its pickup trucks, it's heavy machinery on vast significant acreage in the Star Hill neighborhood. Why and everything

that's holy are you putting your work F1-250s and F-150s and F-3-50s and your dump trucks and your and your chainsaws and your jackhammers on significant acreage in the dead center of the city. Adjacent, touching, shadowing, historically black neighborhoods, 10th and page, Star Hill, and Fifeville. And speaking about city-owned, wasted, underutilized, and underdeveloped property. What number are we on now? Let's see.

Seven? How about zero east high street? The city in a housing crisis buys the land from Wendell Wood on High Street and decides to turn it into a park. This, during a known housing shortage crisis, this at a time when we're going through a zoning rewrite, and the city, instead of

hurting this into a park where Charlottesville taxpayers and Almorel County taxpayers can utilize, instead makes it the epicenter of a drug den, makes it the home of a tent town, makes it the calling card of hobos that pee and crap everywhere, and spray their DNA everywhere, and leave dirty syringes everywhere. Make it make sense. Let's buy from Wendell Wood dirt Let's take it off the tax rolls, forcing more pressure on taxpayers because now we own it and we're not collecting tax revenue from it. Let's do it because we want to keep Bo Carrington from building a housing tower and apartment tower on it that will yield incredible amount of tax revenue in perpetuity in a shitload of front-end jobs at a time coming out of COVID where job creation was important. And we're going to give Wendell Wood and his family already filthy, dripping, Scrooge McDuck rich, a shitload more money.

And we're going to tell the community, we're going to take Zero East High Street, and we're going to turn it into a park. And now it's the home to Tentown, where people are dying and fires are being started by men and women that are cooking white china on spoons to inject into their forearm veins. and if we're speaking of items on that list, what am I missing viewers and listeners? Is it the lot? Is it the parcel at 601 Almarl Street, Judah? 601 Almaral Street for your list where Woodard Properties is trying to build a seven-story residential building?

Actually, let's put that on the receiving votes of the top 10. The what? The top 25 for college football and college basketball has a portion outside of the top 25 called the receiving votes section. The receiving votes section are the colleges and universities that didn't get enough votes to show up in the top 25.

Put 601 Almaral Street, 601 Almorel Street in the receiving votes section. What number are we on now? Eight. Let's see. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Do you want me to put 100 East Water Street

parking lot in there? Yeah, I told you where to put that. That's the city lot. The city market lot. What number did you have that on? We don't have it in there yet. What? You want me to read them off to you? Yes, please.

Ixart Park. Okay. Staple Shopping Center. Okay. Amtrak Station parking lot. Okay. Sweet House West Main parking lot. Okay.

Main Street Market parking lot. Main Street Market parking lot. City yard. Okay. Zero East High Street. All right. Put the city market next on that list. God.

$15 million is the $15 million purchase. Is that in slot eight? City market parking lot. Yep, that's eight. That's eight is city market. How about number nine, the Woodard owned Kim's Market? Kim's Market, over there across from Tonsler Park. That's got to be in the nine slot.

That's a Pandora's box that Sunshine Maython and Piedmont Housing Alliance have poo-poohed. old poo-poo? What's the 10 list, Judah Wickhauer? Yeesh. Ten list viewers and listeners. It's got to be anything on Cherry Avenue. The most underutilized and underdeveloped stretch of land in Charlottesville City, period, bar none is from Roosevelt Brown Boulevard until Rich Street.

You take anything from Roosevelt Brown, Brown, Boulevard to Ridge Street, anything on that. Woodard owns a boatload of that. That whole stretch of land. What am I missing? And this is a natural segue into the next talking point of that entire list,

that entire list, that entire list, ladies and gentlemen, that is going to be targeted for development, whether in market or out-of-market developers, that entire list, which parcel on that list will face the most significant. significant hatred, the most significant backlash, the most significant stigmatizing and villainizing and criminalizing and bullying. Which parcel on that list, Judah Wickhauer? Which parcel Judah Wickhauer? I mean, I think we've already seen the issues that have arisen around...

It's a very straightforward answer. Around Cherry. You say Cherry Avenue? Yeah. Is that, is Cherry Avenue 10? You say Kim's Market? Or you say the entire Cherry Avenue stretch. Good night. William McChesney said, what about the dingleberry? I didn't even put the dingleberry on there.

No one likes a dingleberry. I certainly don't like a dingleberry on the most important eight blocks of my city. Put the dingleberry on there. The Emperor of Empty Lott says he's dubbed by Bloomberg magazine. Is that 10 on the list? The dingleberry? It is now. The dingleberry probably is higher once I give it some more thought.

John Blair says maybe receiving votes the old Meadowbrook Shopping Center. There was a plan to put a lot of housing there. Is the old Meadowbrook Shopping Center, John Blair? Is that Preston Plaza, the Meadowbrook Shopping Center? Which one is the old Meadowbrook Shopping Center? Help me understand that. I know Chris Henry owns Preston Plaza. I know Chris Henry was going to put an apartment.

towers where the SUD's laundry mat is, is that the Meadowbrook shopping center? Oh, that is because that's where Meadowbrook hardware was. At one time, 20 some years ago, across from Martin's hardware, was Meadowbrook Hardware. There was two boutique hardware stores opposite of each other on Preston Avenue. That's where that was, right, John? Where the laundromat and Meadowbrook hardware was? That's right. Chris Henry had the laundromat and Meadowbrook hardware that real estate

owned and that parking lot where the used car lot is, that parking lot that's kind of adjacent to dairy market and he was going to build the next phase of dairy market and then he went into the historically black church for a fireside chat, the same historically black church that Mike Cottius had a fireside chat in

and he told the community, I'm going to build housing here, and then the community absolutely ripped him. Ziona Bryant tore him a new one, remember? Yeah. And Ziona Brian and all the activists in this community said, said, oh, okay, sorry, John Blair. He says El Puerreto is where Meadowbroke is. It's where El Proto is located across from the intersection of barracks.

That's also a good one. Let me focus on my story of Meadowbroke Hardware across from Martins on Preston Avenue. Chris Henry goes into historically black chart. and says, I want to build housing. You're telling us all that we need more housing, because if we have more housing, it's going to stabilize prices. And if we stabilize prices, it's going to create affordability. And Charlestville's really, really expensive. And everyone was all for it. You wanted a zoning rewrite. And then I go in, I try to explain it. I'm Chris Henry. I'm a developer. I'm going to explain what I'm going to do here

at Dairy Market next to 10th and page. And tell everybody what I'm going to do. I'm going to take the pressure off of your neighborhoods by building these apartments. So these these young professionals, these white yuppies, these white yuppies can have a place to live and they won't target your 10th and page neighborhood. And then the Zayana Bryant said, no way, Jose, you devil. You're not going to build more apartments here.

We want more housing. But damn it, we don't want it next to 10th and page. And damn it, we don't want it on the banks of the Rivana River on East High Street. And damn it, we don't want more housing in Fifeville. And damn it, we don't want more of housing, shadowing West. Haven and Star Hill.

And damn it, we don't want more housing at Willoughby. And damn it, we don't want more housing. We don't want more housing at 601 Al Morrow Street. And damn it, we don't want more housing at Kim's Market. All we want is a grocery store that's 5,000 square feet

that's got prices better than food line, the shitty kitty. That makes sense. All we want is the housing to go to the barracks neighborhood in north downtown and the white people's neighborhoods, but we don't want it to go So here, make it make sense. And I'm going to tell you right now, the parcel, the parcel, the parcel that is going to get the most community backslash, the parcel that's going to get the most community backlash, once it's targeted for development, should it be targeted for development?

Maybe it's being targeted for development. Maybe it's not being targeted for development. The parcel, ladies and gentlemen, is the Vinegar Hill site. because when you take a parcel that was rich in negative history and goodness gracious, I read some of that history yesterday on the I Love Seville Show, the water cooler of content in conversation, when you take a parcel, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to have a breath here, when you take a parcel that was a historically black neighborhood that was raised in 1964 as part of urban renewal, and you take a parcel where hundreds of black families were taking

against their will and put into West Haven where businesses and homes and churches and community centers were shut down because a bunch of folks in the 50s and 60s wanted to annex their land and they called it urban renewal and then here we are what 50 60 70 years later and an out-of-market institutionally financed back developer may pursue the dirt we call Staples to build a $2,000 a month, $2,500 a month apartment, bedroom tower, or a $700 a night hotel room. Goodness gracious, the backlash on that is going to be one that we will never, ever, ever forget. And that's when you're going to see Natalie Oshren and Michael Payne and Lloyd Snook and Juan Diego Wade

and Jen Fleischer face a legacy test of our lives. unwanted proportions. If a site formerly home to the black community of Charlottesville, Vinegar Hill, is targeted by out-of-market institutionally backed developers to build hotels or apartment towers, and whoever votes yes in favor of that, Lloyd Snook, Juan Diego Wade, and Ocean Economics, I'm looking at you. If they vote yes on that, that will forever live on their digital tombstone. It will say birthday, birth year, who they're survived by, and voted yes to 2,500 a month bedrooms at Vinegar Hill.

That will be their digital tombstone. And that's how we close the Thursday edition of the I Love Seville Show.