The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Does City Need To Do More To Remember A12?; City Public Schools Starting Today

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

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Good Wednesday afternoon, guys. A belated start to the I Love Seville show. We apologize for that. We're slowly getting our streams online today, the Wednesday edition of the program. We have good content to relay to you, but the infrastructure just is not responding according to plan. We will update viewers and listeners in real time as we get the show up and running. I think you can see some of the headlines on screen for what we want to cover today. The city I think kind of torn on

how the A11 and A12 seven-year anniversary was handled. I heard from a number of viewers and listeners that asked us to further discuss this topic, in particular if the remembrance of A11 and A12 was done the right way. There's a fine line with remembering and honoring and healing and moving forward. I was surprised with the feedback we got

from Monday and Tuesday's show on that topic. So I wanted to kind of cover a little bit more on that as well. I also want to talk on today's show, City Public Schools starting school today. I want to wish all the students that are starting in Charlottesville Public Schools the best of luck. There are new safety enhancements at Charlottesville High School that we're going to cover. We're going to talk Sean Tubbs' story in the Seville Weekly about an

apartment plan, apartment tower plan in the Willoughby Fifth Street extended area. This apartment tower is, some would say, being ramrodded down our throats despite the road infrastructure being prioritized. At least that's what the Willoughby neighborhood is talking about. We'll talk about UVA Pickleball and a national championship and now the Pickleball team evolving into a business with sponsorships galore. We'll talk Judah's topic, 12 amazing places to enjoy a po'boy around the city of Charlottesville. And UVA's 10 highest paid employees are now getting additional pay increases.

Fantastic story from the Cavalier Daily, which we'll cover. It's the Wednesday edition of the show. We give some thanks to our partners at Pro Renata for being a part of the show. It's beer. It's a music venue. It's a place for family, for date night. The food is there. The sports bar is there. And Pro Renata is growing to two different locations, ladies and gentlemen, downtown Stanton and the Shandow Valley in the old Skipping Rock location. So when you think Pro Renata, think you got three spots and realize that a local brand is doing pretty impressive things in this community. The team at Pro Renata, we're proud to have them as a partner of the show Dr. John Shabe and his team

doing absolutely amazing amazing things Judah Wickauer in on a two shot looks like Judah we are now live on Twitter which is good thank you for getting us up there thank you for doing your best with some infrastructure

that is not cooperating today I ask you the same question to start each show. Which headline do you find most compelling today? Crap. Just a second. We got some commentary there, J-Dubs? I'm working on the cameras. You can just go with some audio as you get the cameras set up. Let's see.

I'm excited that the schools are getting some safety features in place for the students. I think that's a good start. I'm a little concerned about the key fob for the students. I think that's a good start. I'm a little concerned about the key fob for the doors. You're concerned with the key fob of the doors? Are you on camera now? No. Okay, he's trying his best today. The key fobs on the doors are a safety mechanism I think is

great. I thought the e-hall pass system was the best one, where now teachers and staff can digitally track which students are in the hallways at Charlottesville High School, and they can use that digital

e-pass system to determine if certain students don't get along, they shouldn't be in certain parts of the hallway together. We'll highlight some of the safety mechanisms at Charlottesville High School. This is a statistic that surprised me. CHS has an attendance of over 1,400 students this year, which is one of the highest numbers it's had in a very long time. Why did the key fob system concern you? The problem is that I get not allowing people in,

but having exterior doors, having all the exterior doors be blocked by a key fob that you can't leave, isn't that a little bit concerning? Well, the doors were already locked from the outside. Locked from the outside? And they started locking them from the inside as well. Is the concern as if there's a fire is that your concern yeah i mean i would i would think that they would have the ability in that

scenario to use a digital system to unlock the door i know i'm sure you're right well i mean i know if the macklin building here we can unlock the front door it's key fob to get in but property management team has the ability to unlock the door without being on site through a computer. Yeah. We also know that electrical and computer systems sometimes fail. Yeah. That's my concern. That's fair.

What did you make of the fact that they're going to use weapons detection systems at events, ticketed events, where attendance is anticipated of over 250 people, but the weapons detection systems will not be at the schools themselves? I think it's a good start. I mean, a weapons detection system is a metal detector, isn't it? I don't know if it is anymore. I think they may have to be more sophisticated these days as 3D printing gets bigger and cheaper. I think it's... Are students 3D printing guns themselves? I certainly hope not, but it's definitely easier than going to a gun store and buying a gun.

I want to offer a little clarity on a comment I made earlier. The 1,430 students enrolled at Charlottesville High School for this school year is the highest enrollment in school history. That according to an article today in the Seville Weekly. So Charlottesville High School has 1,430 students, the highest enrollment in CHS history. That's a good thing that we've got a new Catholic school. New Charlottesville, I'm not sure why the new Catholic school. Is it an additional option? Yeah, if the school is taking on more students than they can take on, then it's good that there are other options, right?

Well, the new Charlottesville Catholic High School is a pay-to-play model. It's not a free model. I didn't say it was. So it's not an apples-to-apples comparison there. I will say this, that Charlottesville High School does have a new principal. And the new principal, Justin Malone, I think has an opportunity to turn a school into the right direction. Look at the safety mechanisms that CHS is rolling out. Classes starting today at Fluvanna County as well, along with Charlottesville High School Justin Malone the principal newly minted principal has outlined enhanced security mechanisms like exterior door access control not only using key fobs to control people coming in the building but also leaving this one I find the most compelling in e-hall pass system

mm-hmm where not only can the number of students be controlled converging in one hallway or area, but students can be kept apart who counselors and teachers have identified as not getting along with each other. This is some good coverage from Seville right now on the enhanced security mechanisms. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. The one mechanism that I thought should be rolled out at the school

is the weapons detection system. They're now calling metal detectors weapons detection systems and not metal detectors. They're going to use weapons detection systems at ticketed events with attendance anticipated of over 250 people. Look, if you're going to have it at a basketball game or a football game, and really the only events that consistently get over 250 people, football and basketball games. If you're going to do it at football and basketball games, why wouldn't you do it at the school themselves? If cost is an issue, you're already paying for these at football and basketball games, go ahead and roll them out at the school across the board. That's my suggestion.

And to Judah's point, Bill McChesney is making the point, the weapons detection system might just, you know, may not just be the metal detectors of our youth because of the 3D printing capabilities, I guess, that some youth have. Maybe it's not just that. What do you have in jail when you have a shiv? Is it a shiv? Like a prison shiv? A shank? I guess the shivs and shanks, are they metal or those are plastic? Anything you can make out of them.

Shiv and a shank would probably not show up on a metal detector, right? Especially not if it was a filed down toothbrush. A filed down toothbrush? That's a heck of a weapon right there. Well, it's not like they've got forges in prison you think they're making metal shivs they're taking anything that's the slightest bit pointy and putting a you know either a point or a or a blade on it putting a point or a an edge on it and you got yourself a weapon. A number of newsy tidbits from public schools today and yesterday. Another newsy tidbit, the Albemarle County Public Schools say they now have enough bus drivers for everyone to get a ride to and from school. Now, they did highlight that there's going to be

some kids that are going to arrive late to school. But right now, the director of transportation, who that's a job I would not want to have, is saying that all kids in Albemarle County public schools for the first time in a long time have rides to and from school. So congratulations. They probably got one of those

one of those big motivational posters on the wall that says better late than never. Better late than never. There we go. And I guess that's where we're at in today's today's world. I think we cover the schools with a microscope type lens, our coverage. So we should give them some positive attention today. Here's the positive attention on the official opening of Charlottesville Public Schools and Flavana County Public Schools. Number one, CHS has a new principal who's very excited to right the ship.

His name, Justin Malone. Number two, their are enhanced security mechanisms at Charlottesville High School, including an e-haul pass system that I'm most excited for, where students are not going to be allowed to randomly, unsupervised, roam the hallways. They are going to be digitally tracked,

digitally tracked through an e-hall pass system and that digital tracking mechanism is going to allow counselors and teachers to keep students who are troublemakers from aggregating together in the hallways. That's extremely

exciting. I'd like to hear more about that because that's pretty wild. Wild how? I mean, they're not just talking about, you know... I would imagine the e-hall tracking system is you get like an Apple tag when you leave the classroom. Yeah, but how would that know who you are? They're going to log you in when you take the e-hall pass in your hand.

Before you leave the classroom, you will be logged in by that teacher that you are leaving in the time that you are leaving. Yeah. But it also knows who doesn't get along well with who else. You think, you think it's just going to be somebody punches a name on the, on the Apple tag and the system automatically searches the database and says, oh, he think what's going to happen is before Troublemaker Tommy leaves remedial math, the counselor or the teacher are going to look to see if Troublemaker Terry and Troublemaker Timmy are in the hallways already. And they're not going to allow Troublemaker Tommy to leave the class until Troublemaker Timmy and Troublemaker Terrier are back at their seats. That's what I think is going to happen. That doesn't sound like a very advanced system. That sounds like you're relying a lot on the teachers to know what's going on. Like say a substitute is taking over a class, how are they going to know who... Well, I hope there's a log.

Some kind of log. Are we able... Multiple folks are asking if we can get YouTube up. Chuck Ramey is asking that. Are we able to restart YouTube? I mean, the system would be better than just having an eraser. Like when we were kids. Or no system at all, right?

An eraser? When we were kids, the hall pass was like a big spoon. The bathroom pass. Do you guys remember this? The big wooden spoon or the eraser or some kind of uncomfortable object tied to a pass of some kind when you went to the restroom? When you had the key to leave the class? You sure that wasn't a truck stop? I mean, truck stops do the same. What was your hall pass? How many schools did you attend? You were all over the world, all over the country going to school.

I don't remember hall passes. You didn't have hall passes in the last year? We had the big spoon tied to the bathroom pass and would have to carry it to and from the bathroom. Distinctly remember doing that.

Let us know when we can get YouTube up so we can get the viewers and listeners on that channel watching. First day, Charlottesville Public Schools and first day, Fluvanna County Public Schools. We wish them the best of luck. On day one, there's positive stories galore and there's systems in place to keep safety

and kids learning and heading in the right direction to graduation. I want nothing more than these school systems to have fantastic school years. It's all I want. I think it's going to be the first day of school is an opportunity for all of us to go in with positive expectations and hopes. And that's what we're doing today. What's the next headline over there, J-Dubs? Let's see. Do we want to talk more about does the city need to do more to remember A12? Yeah.

Overwhelming response from viewers and listeners on this on Monday and Tuesday. Overwhelming DMs, texts, or emails on this. And it was a fairly equal split as you put that lower third on screen.

Some said that the city and the university, and they lumped the university in there as well. Some said the city and the university did nothing to commemorate the seven-year anniversary of A-12, A-11 and A-12. Certainly nothing I know about except for closing off the street. Others said A-11 and A-12, the seven--year anniversary is not something to commemorate why would you commemorate and draw attention others said to me to the darkest most disturbing 48-hour period potentially in the city's history good point too especially considering that

everybody else is constantly talking about it jo Joe Biden, certainly. Now Kamala. You heard her talking? Charlottesville, A11 and A12? It's the very first... See, I haven't seen that. That's in her political propaganda? It's... And that's not about Kamala Harris and who I want to win the election.

The show's not about Trump and Harris. But when one of the candidates talk A11 and A12, that's a topic for the I Love Seville show. She... I saw it on Google. When I Googled Charlottesville News, it was basically saying that she's still talking about the other candidate's fine people comment. Come on now. Yeah. How do you characterize the use of that in a campaign?

Desperate. Disingenuous. A political ploy? They actually believe it. And that's not about the candidates. It's just about that Charlottesville is being used in a presidential race seven years removed from an event.

That's what that's about. So do you think the city and the University of Virginia, do you think they did well with how they handled a11 or a12 or did they do a disservice to a11 and a12 i would ask the question did they handle a11 and a12 you're you're answering the question with a question because i don't know they i don't know if they've even done anything so then I would think that would be your answer, that they've done nothing.

So is doing nothing, you're saying they did nothing. Nothing that I'm aware of. So is doing nothing with the 70-year anniversary of A11 or A12 the right play? That's the question I have for you. Okay. I think it depends who you ask.

I'm asking you, Gina. I know. I'm asking you. I honestly don't care. If they want to set up a parade or if they want to have a park vigil, I think they're probably better off leaving it as it is. I think they probably made the right choice and didn't do anything. Okay, there you go. There's a succinct answer, a direct answer from the man over there.

So you're saying, from your standpoint, A11, A12, the seven-year anniversary, should not be commemorated or honored by the University of Virginia or the city of Charlottesville? Yeah, I think they're probably better off keeping their hands off of that. The extent of what? Are they any good at, we've... Fair point.

I think you should make that point. I was going to make that point. Yeah, I was just going to say, do we really trust them to make a respectful, you know, does this even, can you even call something a spectacle respectful? I think that's what it would end up being. If either of them tried to do something, it would just be a spectacle. It would end up landing us in another news cycle that we don't need. And I don't really trust them to do a respectful job of it. I was surprised with how many people responded about the city and the university not doing enough. The extent of what I saw the city do was close off 4th Street. Yeah. And they closed off 4th Street also on August 13th.

YouTube's up. Monday and Tuesday. And I would imagine it was closed off on Sunday, too. They opened it up at the end of the day yesterday. Okay, at the end of the day yesterday. So when I was coming to work yesterday, 4th Street was closed off. Yeah, it was still closed off for at least part of the afternoon. Many that reached out to me said the city should move on from A11, A12,

commemorating or honoring the darkest day, the darkest 48-hour period in the city's history is not something that is going to do well for the city to heal. You make a face. I don't know if I'd call it the darkest period in Charlottesville's history. What could compete with that? The destruction of Vinegar Hill? Certainly. 100%. 10 times worse

than A12. I'm not going to make light of the death. I think you've got to choose your words very carefully here. I'm not going to make light of it death. I think you've got to choose your words very carefully here. I'm not going to make light of it, but I don't think that that stands up to the destruction of

the black community in Charlottesville in any way, shape, or form. I agree with that. I agree with that. We could position it this way then. And YouTube is back up for those that are asking. Yeah. We can position it this way then, and YouTube is back up for those that are asking. We can position it this way at least. A11 and A12, that 48-hour period, the darkest 48-hour period,

most disturbing 48-hour period in Charlottesville in the last 50 years. I don't know Charlottesville that well. Okay. You want to put a characteristic point? It's probably correct. Yeah. I don't know. Vinegar Hill, let me get the exact.

I should know the exact, Vinegar Hill. Vinegar Hill, Charlottesville was raised. Once I do this, I'll remember this 1965 so we can tell the last 50 years so technically correct stakeholders that reached out to us said stakeholders that reached out to us

said that healing in the city and getting it out of the narrative in the news cycle is in part how you heal. They also highlighted that it still shows up prominently on search. They highlighted that Biden was still using it in politics. I didn't realize Vice President Harris, presidential candidate Harris was using it. That's unfortunate. And they said that does nothing to help the city move forward, certainly not economic-wise. And even one stakeholder that listens to the program, a prominent, prominent real estate owner, reached out and said, you covered the foot traffic drop on the downtown mall, one million less people visiting the mall, as presented by Friends of Seville to City Council. Part of that drop in traffic is correlated to August 11th and August 12th, along with the issues like the houseless and the cleanliness of the mall.

How are all of those things connected to A12? A million-person drop in foot traffic on the downtown mall, I think it was 2017 versus 2023, the data Friends of Seville presented to City Council, that is not just one source for the drop in foot traffic. That is tied to partially the pandemic and COVID. That is partially tied to headwinds in the economy like inflation and less spending. That is tied to the Charlottesville area being expensive. That is tied to the houseless, the homeless, and cleanliness and safety concerns around them all. And it is also partially tied to A11 and A12.

All those reasons plus others are why we've seen a million less people visit the most important eight blocks in a 300,000-person region. Maybe the city's plan of doing nothing and UVA's plan of doing nothing is a plan in and of itself. Maybe that's what's going on. Interesting, the response, though, that we got from folks. A couple of comments coming in.

This is from Deep Throat. He says the e-pass will work well as the principal is willing to discipline kids who are in the halls without the pass. Will there be consequences or is it just a higher tech system that will be as negligently enforced as the low tech system that preceded it?

I think this principal is ready to enforce and hold students accountable. And the interim principal, who's a friend of mine, Mr. Leatherwood, he was willing to hold students accountable. And the interim principal, who's a friend of mine, Mr. Leatherwood, he was willing to hold kids accountable. You saw in the spring semester, the high school have less trouble versus the fall semester.

And it was because the person atop of the power totem pole, Mr. Leatherwood, was willing to hold folks accountable. Ginny Hu says this, I don't trust the city to have a commemoration that would not further divide the community. That's the point Judah made. Yeah. Can you touch on that?

I mean, even between you and me, we have differences of opinion. You want to get the city council or UVA to try to come up with a respectful, I mean, there's really no way to commemorate it. There's not really anything, there's nothing to celebrate or commemorate. I mean, I could see having some type of evening vigil as a remembrance for Heather Heyer. But I don't think there's really anything else about those two days that's worth bringing up today, tomorrow, or next year, or ever again. Bill McChesney says August 11th and August 12th created a boycott of the

Charlottesville city. A group is choosing to boycott the city because of A11 and A12. His point being you should not be commemorating or honoring these dates. And he also says city governance created the July 8th and August 11th and 12th events. They screwed up on all three dates. I think part of that's true. Part of that's true. A lot of that's true. Let's cut to the chase. Next headline, what do you got, Judah Wittkower? Let's see. John Blair, one more on this one. I am curious what Heather Heyer's mother and the families of the state troopers feel about the monument or an annual remembrance. Or do they feel that closing off 4th Street each year for a few hours is appropriate? It's a great question.

I wouldn't want to be the one to ask them. Our studio is right next to 4th Street. The city put barricades on 4th Street and barricades at the Mall Crossing. Down by the Heather Heyer memorial. Over that 48 hour period of time, those two days,

I saw dozens of people honoring Heather Heyer's legacy. But not all at once. Every time I look down there, I. But not all at once. Every time I looked down there, I saw dozens of people at once. I wouldn't want to speak for what her mom would want. I wouldn't want to ask. You would not want to ask?

No, and I definitely wouldn't want to ask. Should she have been asked? By whom? The city. No, I don't think she should have been asked by the city. If I was in a position like that and somebody came knocking on my door asking, I don't think I would be very accommodating, and I might even get rude. Get off my lawn!

Good night. Goodness gracious over there. We've also got buyers from these metro areas are moving to Seville. Or at least they're pretty heavily on the apps looking at properties. This is data. This is a fantastic. The data, I love data. If you haven't watched the show or know of what we cover on the show, most of the topic is based on data. Stacker is a How would you characterize Stacker, Judah? Media outlet, news outlet They analyze data from Realtor.com

On where the traffic was coming from For the listings in the Charlottesville area Cross-market demand report Basically, who's looking to buy homes in Charlottesville These are the following metro areas, according to the News Outlet stacker, of who's looking at houses to buy in the Charlottesville metro area. Number 10, Chicago, Illinois. You can find this article right now on CBS 19 News. The headline is, people from these metros are looking to buy homes in Charlottesville. 10, Charlottesville,

Illinois. 9, Stanton, Virginia. That's your neck of the woods there, JB. Number eight, Lynchburg. Number seven, Philadelphia. Six, Roanoke. Five, Virginia Beach. Four, Atlanta. Three, Richmond. Two, New York, and one, D.C. I want to highlight a handful in particular. The top metro area that's looking at buying real estate in the Charlottesville area is Washington, D.C. Yeah. The second metro area that's looking to buy real estate in the Charlottesville area is New York City, Manhattan. Number four is Atlanta, Georgia. Number seven, the city of brotherly love, Philadelphia.

And number ten, the windy city, Chicago. These are the largest major metros in the city, save maybe the Los Angeles metro area. You're talking the most affluent East Coast and Mid-Atlantic metro hubs that according to the Stacker News site, IPs from these areas are actively studying listings and real estate in our home. Folks, I've said this so many times. the influx of Scrooge McDucks with bags of gold coming to our area,

in particular the city of Charlottesville and Alamaro County, to scoop up real estate that is available, we are at the tip of the iceberg and we have not seen true momentum here. And this data backs it up. It says they're looking. Why would you be looking if you're not interested in buying? I'm surprised there were so many Virginia locales that were looking, and I wonder if they're doing it for LOLs.

For what? For LOLs, for LOLs. Can you believe how expensive these places are? I thought with the Lynchburg, Stanton, and Roanoke, Lynchburg, Stanton, and Roanoke, throw even Richmond in there, that those metros

are much more affordable. Number nine is Stanton. Number eight is Lynchburg. Number six is Roanoke. Number three is Richmond. I think six is Roanoke. Number three is Richmond. I think you discount those as potential people buying in the Charlottesville area because

their current metro areas are way more affordable than this metro area of Charlottesville. I think that's window shopping. I think Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, New York, and D.C. is more than window shopping. Get me the hell out of here.

I can work remotely or hybridly. There's flights from Cho to LaGuardia every day. Don't do it, folks. Don't do it. We've done it. I know. It wasn't that bad. Is it 45 minutes to laguardia show up

there dude remember the one time we had to make the flight to service the business in jersey i showed up as you were boarding the plane to the airport i know i had to hide your ticket because i had it you hid my boarding pass under a chair in the airport and sent you a photo and sent me a photo because i think we had car trouble my wife and i was driving to the airport i think it was raining and you didn't leave enough time to get to the airport no i'm pretty sure it was car trouble i'm 100 sure it was raining i didn't show up i showed up in an uber that day i was already on the plane i have no idea yeah we were having car trouble and i had a flag and uber from 250 anyway the point was this i got to the airport as you were boarding the plane and still

was able to get on that plane i was comfortable in the in the airplane when you when you got to the airport yeah and had literally no problem going through security and getting on the plane i mean it's one of charlottesvilleesville. That's why I've called it many times my favorite airport out there. People are quick to complain about the delay of flights or flights getting canceled because of weather, especially the flights coming into Charlottesville. And they're quick to complain about the lack of volume

or flight options, that there are not more options available. But you find me an airport out there that has direct connection to major metros where you can show up 15 minutes, 20 minutes before boarding and get on no problem. It's less than advisable, but it is doable. I've done it dozens of times. The Charlotte Airport is another one that I love.

That one's excellent, easily navigatable. The one that I hate with a burning passion, Atlanta. LaGuardia is another one, although it's been remodeled, that I hated traveling out of. We were making, when we were hitting there goes Cliff Fox, the commercial broker over there. We were hitting

flying out of Cho to New Jersey to service New Jersey business once a quarter where we would stay up there a week, Judah, the team, and I, for what, five years? Wasn't that long? Four or five years. I got old quick.

You're telling me. I mean, you do what you had to do when you're growing the business, though. Anyway, we got off topic here. DC, number one. New York, number two. Atlanta, four. Philly, seven.

Chicago, ten. Hybrid remote work is going to gentrify this community at rates we have yet to see. It's not just going to be this community, but yeah. This is from Deep Throat. I mean, the stacker thing picks up a lot of looky-loos, but it does track the IRS migration data.

That's what makes me worry about rezoning. Create more product for folks, and they come here and drive up the cost of everything. If you want to keep it affordable, make sure we have the same stale housing stock as always. They'll move on to places that suit them better. This one from Ginny Hu. I flew out of Seville a few weeks ago and was shocked to have 25 minutes to wait at TSA. She also says, I'm grateful that John Blair brought up the state troopers as well they are often forgotten in the August 11th and August 12th conversation

I agree but I feel like they're less connected oh I'm curious I'm gonna listen to here because the I mean it was it was a horrible accident there's no denying it you're talking the helicopter crash. Yeah, but it's almost coincidental to the actual date. It's not like there was sabotage or malice. It was just a terrible accident. And that doesn't lessen the fact that they're another part of the tragedy of August 12. But, again, it was an accident.

I think the troopers should be remembered. I'm not disagreeing. The point that you're saying is, are the deaths less significant than the higher murder because she was murdered and they died in a helicopter crash? Some would say it could be the fault of their own. I'm not going to say it was their fault. I'm not placing blame. I'm just saying, you know, that's just saying that's like the principal at Henley where we were talking about

last week or a few weeks ago when the Henley principal was arrested for abuse of a minor we said that or the conversation came up the abuse of the minor a minor tied to her family,

off school grounds, that was less significant than if it was abuse of a minor on the clock at Henley when she was the principal. Yeah, I don't know if... That's a slippery slope. I think it's like lumping in

every crime that happened on A12 with A12 and saying, look at all the horrible things that happened when some of them were just things that happen every day in cities across America. I mean, I understand your point. The troopers should be remembered. Yeah, I don't deny that. I just, let's remember them for, you know, for the men and or, let's remember them for who they were and the job they did and not for having died on August 12th.

Randy O'Neill, thank you for watching the program. I understand the point you're making. It's a fair point. It's a point we should be on the show. Let's talk about anything you want to add about the migration data. No. I think it's interesting. But I think it doesn't tell the full story.

The migration data? Yeah. Like we said, I believe it was Deep Throat that mentioned that it could be a lot of people just checking out housing markets. As we mentioned, it could be people going, would I really want to live in Charlottesville? The last time I checked out this property, it was $400,000. Now it's getting close to a million. Kind of a morbid curiosity, possibly.

Oh, man. That's a great way to be dispirited. Looking at stuff that is morbid and you can't afford. It's like going to Beverly Hills on Rodeo Drive and looking in the window at the Rolex shops. John says, from 2020 to 2022, UVA Law School placed 450 of its grads in New York City and D.C., only 20 in Richmond. That is part of the story. Here is a link to that data and he shares a link to law.virginia.edu website. I used to play squash with a Darden graduate. He's now in, I tell a story about Manhattan. His girlfriend is at Deloitte and he works in

finance somewhere in Manhattan. He had a quarter million in debt tied to the Darden School at 7%. She was fortunate to have much of her grad school paid for by her parents. They had combined household income

of like $260,000 before bonuses. They each were getting bonuses. And still they had a hard time affording an apartment in Manhattan because they had to put first month's rent, last month's rent and security deposit down. I think that was like $16,000 or $17,000. Long story short, he mentioned to me, his girlfriend went undergrad, played sports at UVA, then graduate school at UVA, Darden. And he went to Princeton, played baseball at Princeton

and graduate school at UVA. And he mentioned to me that they would absolutely consider Charlottesville a home after paying their dues in Manhattan. Making some money, paying their dues, and coming back here. I have a family member who works for a firm in Manhattan, and he lives in Stanford. And the criteria that if you work, if you live 90 minutes away from your employer, then you don't have to come into work each day. You can work remotely. I think he's like 93 minutes away according to Google map directions, which is a strategy.

Yeah. And now he's Stanford, Connecticut, lower cost of living, working remotely, which is genius, which is genius for him. Because the alternative is commuting on a train, waking up super early, then commuting on a train, getting back very late. I'll continue to make this comment. We're on the cusp of a significant housing wave, housing influx of out-of-towners buying real estate in this area. We are at the tip of the iceberg, and I've been consistent with that message on this show. Two other headlines I think we have left. More than that, I think. Let's see.

We've got roads can't accommodate apartments planned for Fifth Street. And it's more than just accommodation. This is Tubbs' story in the Seville Weekly? Yeah. Sean, you do a good job. I'm finding we're hiding

we're highlighting stories that Tubbs does almost every day on the show. Support his sub stack. The headline in this story is, this is kind of a little bit of sensationalized headline, but I understand why they did it. A dangerous Charlottesville intersection could become more crowded. I mean, he's not wrong. He cites the fact that there have been multiple T-bones.

People get T-bone on 5th Street all the time. I used to live in Redfields on 5th Street Extended, and coming off was that Country Green or Old Lynchburg Road to get onto 5th Street to go into work. That is, you're playing frogger with your life

going against oncoming traffic to go back into town the south side of the city of charlottesville because there's no traffic light well in this case and i'm not as familiar with uh the uva side of the city but I think I've been through here. A lot of the problem people have with putting a large apartment block there is that I believe they talk about the fact that there's a hill there, which is part of the problem. There was something about line of sight,

and I think the problem is people are coming over the hill going faster than they probably should. One thing. Go ahead. You have a very short runway for correcting if there's someone in the crosswalk or stopped in the way or, you know, so on and so forth. I'll give, I often hold Livable Charlottesville accountable or question what they're doing. I will give Livable Charlottesville and its co-chair Matthew Gilligan some props today. I think Gilligan lives in the Prospect neighborhood and he's often lobbying city council to slow the speed and do speed enforcement on Fifth Street after the Food Lion in particular, as you're heading

the Food Lion shopping center, as you're heading into town and I completely agree with him. People are going 45 50, 55 miles an hour on that road and that road should be a 25, maybe not a 25, but a 35 much closer to the Albemarle

County line than it is now. People are going way too fast. There is a T-bone traffic accident that leads to a death almost every year on that road. Yeah, and they mention, he mentions, what is it, road diets. We were talking about that a while ago, especially. Natalie Oshren wants the road diet. Especially when Natalie Oshren... The road diet is a slippery slope. The road diet is a narrowing of roads to create more safety. Yeah. People tend to drive slower when they have less room.

That's the whole concept of the road diet. This is something that... Willoughby is one of the few neighborhoods that is in the city and in Elmira County. Part of the Willoughby neighborhood is in Charlottesville City. Part of the Willoughby neighborhood is in Elmira County. And that HOA association, that homeowners association, is actively lobbying against this project by Woodard Properties. They have a subsidiary, an LLC called Morse Creek LLC. It's a company tied to Woodard Properties,

a company now run by Keefe's son, Anthony. And the plans are, before the city, to build a development called Willoughby Place with 84 two-bedroom apartments in two buildings on 4.8 acres. This according to the Seville Weekly story authored by Sean Tubbs. The driveway to this by-right development would be 350 feet from the Harris Road intersection, which is one of the reasons Willoughby Property Owners Association is opposed to the development. Sean's got great reporting on this. 84 two-bedroom apartments on a road

that's had massive development already. You're going to put more apartments on an intersection where the Wawa, the Wegmans, there's a Wawa coming to where the Hardee's was located. You know the Hardee's? Where the Exxon was? That intersection to Cluster Duck? I need to see a picture of this. That's down where your parents live. That stretch of road is going to get even more congested. This will impact Southside, Charlottesville, Alamo County neighborhoods as well.

You add another 84 two-bedroom apartments, what are you going to do? Add another 200 and plus cars and traffic going to and from those apartments? Yeah. And that brings us back to a topic that we, I think, touch on quite a bit in the fact that we seem to be getting a lot more, well, the city seems to be planning for development by rezoning without doing any of the, without taking into account how the city needs to. The city's doing housing before infrastructure. They're prioritizing housing before infrastructure. Yeah.

That's what he's saying. That's what you're saying, right? Yeah. They need to grow their infrastructure, and they don't seem to be addressing the fact that we want more housing, but you need to be purposeful about what you're doing. And that means, you know, that means fixing the infrastructure where you think growth is going to happen. Yeah.

Strategic growth is what it's called. Yeah. Strategic growth. I sounded this message for at least a decade. You can't, this applies to transportation, busing kids to schools, where the city's responsible of doing it itself. The city itself buses the kids to schools.

You know, we can't just allow density without prioritizing infrastructure, or we're going to become Fredericksburg. Drive through Fredericksburg and realize what could become of Charlottesville. No one wants that. Ugh. Two other headlines, right? What are the last ones?

Please, sir. Let's see. UVA Pickleball? This is one that I found interesting. This is from the news.virginia.edu today. The pickleball team, UVA's pickleball team, it's a club team. They won a national championship. They're the top pickleball team in the nation.

Wow. Then the club team turned into a business. The president of the UVA Pickleball Club was a McIntyre School of Commerce student. And that McIntyre School of Commerce student has got the following revenue streams to fund the club. Paddle sponsors, shoe sponsors, ball sponsors, sock sponsors, ball machine sponsors, net sponsors, recovery product sponsors, hydration drink sponsors, and energy drink sponsors. The club signed a one-year apparel deal with premium sportswear Sergio Taccini. This pickleball club that is a national championship, that is a national champion, has turned the pickleball team's success into a name, image, and likeness behemoth. Behemoth. Behemoth.

A 2023 national title confirmed its status as the top club in the country. And because of that status, more than 700 members are in the club, with 24 competing on the tournament team.

Pickleball is exploding in popularity, including right here in Charlottesville. 700 students are part of the Pickleball Club. Of that 700 students, 24 are being vetted through competition to be on the traveling tournament team. That 24, because of their talents and their notoriety and success have garnered sponsorships for paddles, apparel, balls nets, machine, socks shoes

recovery products, hydration drinks and energy drinks you're talking the fastest growing sport in America and the fastest growing sport in America and the fastest growing sport in Charlottesville area right here. I was impressed by that. I want to save this topic for tomorrow. This could be the lead for tomorrow's show. This was on the Cavalier Daily yesterday. The University of Virginia's 10 highest paid employees got salary increases in 2024. The 10 faculty and administrators received over 8 million combined, a 1 million increase compared to last year's top 10. This is through a Freedom of Information Act

request. We'll talk Craig Kent, we'll talk Jim Ryan, and some of the heavy hitters at the University of Virginia as the lead headline tomorrow, Judah, on the I Love Seville show. We apologize. We started late. It was the fault of no one in this studio. It was the fault of the technology that we utilize where we're pretty much band-aid and

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