The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Election Day In Virginia Is Just Five Days Away; A Look At The Races, Who Has Largest Win Margin?

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the I Love Sevo Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on a Thursday afternoon in downtown Charlestville. Day before Halloween, two days removed from November. What is that? 40, you know, less than two months from Christmas. Geez, Louise. New Year's right around.
Starting point is 00:00:30 around the corner. A lot to cover on the program as we are smack dab at the middle of the final quarter of 2025. We are now at that point of the real estate calendar where unless a house goes under contract like today, tomorrow, this weekend, you know, certainly by close of business next week, you're looking at a pretty finalized snapshot of what 2025 and the Charlestville Area Association of Realtors' footprint is looking like from a data standpoint. Because homes that go pending much later in November are going to reflect on the 2026 modeling
Starting point is 00:01:15 and the 26 sales data and sales reports. So we're going to have a snapshot, and we'll talk about that probably in the middle to the end of next week of what 2025 is going to look like from a real estate vantage point on the I Love Seville show and, of course, on Real Talk with Keith Smith. Tomorrow's episode of Real Talk with Keith Smith will not feature me. It will not feature Keith Smith, nor will it feature Judah Wickhauer. Instead, on Real Talk with Keith Smith, tomorrow at 1015. AM right here in the I Love Seville Network, you will see Batman in spandex with mask on. Batman is not just protecting the streets of Gotham, but Batman is protecting the very mean streets of Charlottesville, Elmore County, and Central Virginia.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You will also, ladies and gentlemen, see the boy wonder, Robin. You'll see Captain America. You'll see Alfred. and the chatter in superhero circles is maybe a villain will be on set as well. Early Scuttlebutt has Hellboy making his way into the I Love Seville Studio tomorrow. But that's just Scuttlebutt at this point. We know for certain that Batman, the Boy Wonder, Captain America, and Alfred will be on a dial and network that's most important to you, and that's, of course, the I Love Seville Show and the I Love Seville Network.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We remind you that there's a significant football game on the horizon on Saturday, on national television, ESPN2. Virginia is a favorite, but that number is dropping. What was the line for the Virginia game? Is that in the headline that I, in the pre-production meeting that we talked about at all? I know they're 15 in the country. It's a 345 kickoff. It's on ESPN2 against Cal where UVA goes across the country. That line has moved the Standardsville odds makers.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Do we know what the Standardsville odds makers have that line at right now? Is it minus 3.5? The Standardsville odds makers, yes, have the Virginia Cal Berkeley line as the Wahoo's a three and a half point favorite. The Standardsville odds makers have the line open at four and a half. It's since dropped. This is a trap game for Virginia. Virginia. This is a trap game for the Wahoos as Tony Elliott tries to make a push for the ACC championship. And Virginia has a clear path to not only the ACC championship, but the
Starting point is 00:04:00 college football playoff, 12 teams dancing on the national stage to be the best football team in the country and the corresponding glory and legacy that accompanies such a stage and such an honor. Virginia travels to California Saturday, then they finish the season with Wake Force at Scott Stadium, at Duke in Durham, and then Virginia Tech at Scott Stadium. There are four games left for Virginia, the 15th ranked team in the nation, who is 7-1 overall and 4-0 in conference play. Judah Wickhauer, if we can go to the studio camera, I'll welcome you on a two-shot before we give some props and accolades to Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes, just class. It's a class. people, Oak Valley Custom Artscapes.
Starting point is 00:04:47 My friend, the Thursday before Friday, your favorite day of the week, I think payday is tomorrow? I think you're right. At the Miller organization, so it is your absolute favorite day of the week. My friend, before we get to some Oak Valley Love, which headline most intrigues you today and why? I mean, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. We've got plans for Gordonsville to take over some portions of orange that have fallen through. We've also got, you know, we've got the elections coming up. The races have really, you know, really closed the gap in the last few weeks, and it's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I'm eager to find out how they turn out. Which race are you following most closely? Statewide, local, where are you most intrigued? I'd say I'm intrigued with the Spanberger Earl Sears fight, considering that one has gone from quite a gap in the numbers, the polling numbers, to actually being kind of, close now, not a squeaker, but Earl Sears has made up a lot of ground. Obviously, I'm also interested in the school board, the Almar County School Board race. I'm friends with Jim
Starting point is 00:06:23 Dylanback, go to church with him. He's really pushed to get on the school council. I know it means a lot to him, and I think he would be great for the county. I had a conversation. I had a conversation yesterday with a mover and shaker about the Spamberger Wilson Earl Sears race. It's significant for a number of reasons. Obviously, it's for the governor of Virginia. From a University of Virginia standpoint, there is a very reputable and direct talk that if Spamberger gets a win and it's expected that she will win, that one of her first moves in office will be to potentially replaced Rachel Sheridan as rector of the UVA Board of Visitors. And it may also cause Porter Wilkinson, the vice rector, to kind of come in the Spamberger
Starting point is 00:07:17 crossfire as well. So from a University of Virginia standpoint, five seats Spamberger has at her disposal in early the first quarter and potentially a move to decapitate Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson as rector and vice rector. And that scenario, you have a completely different B-OV and whose main focus at this point is navigating the next hire at the University of Virginia from a president standpoint, a number of other prominent and prestigious positions, and the navigation of this white-collar racketeering lawsuit against the Kenner Prize and UVA Health. If you have yet to read the lawsuit, it is available online, the documentation. I spend even more time today looking at it, and goodness gracious. There's some really grossly concerning storylines, alleged storylines, alleged.
Starting point is 00:08:27 allegations. Allegations and fractions in that lawsuit. I mean, it's just, it's gross. And I have to use the words alleged, but it's absolutely gross. Philip Dow says he'll be working the polls for Jim Dylan Beck, Judah. Vanessa Parkhills is watching the program. It leads me to ask you, the viewer and listener to this question. Ray Cadell is watching the program as well. He says, interesting time and music and real estate. Absolutely from a real estate standpoint. And Ray, we're going to know probably at the end of next week what the sales data for 2025 is going to look like for the for the car footprint maybe in some cases you could stretch it to what what do you think ray to the 15th 16th 17th of November but with the holidays a lot of closing time and runway is lost so unless a home is going pending in the next week to 10 days you're probably looking at it closing in 2026 and not 2025. Curious of your take, Ray, Cadell,
Starting point is 00:09:30 you've been in this game we call Real Estate for a generation plus. What you make of the current market. Balance, sellers, buyer, standstill, quicksand, upside, what it could look like into 2026 as rates potentially drop, time will tell.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Cadell, I'm curious of your take. Which margin of victory is more significant? Spam burgers over Witsboro Series. Fred Missile over Scott Smith. Leah Purrier over Jim Dillenbeck. Jason Mayari's over Jay Jones. You've got to think Miyari's the incumbent, the Republican, especially with the Jane Jones text message saga,
Starting point is 00:10:13 where he basically is texting other people that he wants people shot and killed, including their children, that Jay Jones is a significant underdog. Spamberger, clear-cut favorite. Missile, clear-cut favorite over Spam. Smith. Per year, a clear-cut favorite over Dylan Beck. Which margin of victory is the most significant? Which margin of victory is the least significant? Election Day is Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen. Your thoughts, June. What about Reed? I mean, I'm less inclined to follow that race because it's such a, I don't want to call it inconsequential. I mean, the lieutenant governor is, you know, window dressing when it comes to
Starting point is 00:10:56 Virginia politics. Could he not pose problems to Spanberger, if she takes it and he takes it? I don't see. You don't think so? No, no. Of the ones I outline, which is the greatest margin and the least margin of victory. Oh, man. That's a tough call.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I'd say Spanberger is probably the most, the most, going to have the, the largest effect, whether it's Spanberger or... Which margin of victory, votes-wise, is the greatest? Spamberger beating Winston-Murals Sears, Missile over Smith, Miari's over Jay Jones, per year over Dillenbeck. Who wins by the most margin? Who wins by the least margin, do you think?
Starting point is 00:11:47 I think Missile gets the largest margin over Smith. Missile over Smith in the Samuel Miller District, the Amar County Board of Supervisors? Why are you based that? Just the history of Amar County? Yeah. I'd probably inclined to agree with you on that one. The latest poll show, what, Spamberger's ahead of seven points
Starting point is 00:12:09 over Winston-Burl-Sears? That gap. That's the last one I saw as well. That gap is narrow considerably. Scott Smith, while he out-fundraised Missal in the latest fundraising report, released. He's got a Sisyphean uphill battle.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, he's got a run in Almaro County that is not a run that I would want anyone to take. Jim Hingley pushes back on my lieutenant governor. Lieutenant governor is just window dressing. He says the LG could be important as a tiebreaker
Starting point is 00:12:46 and a closely divided Senate. I get that. Historically, how about if I use these terms? Jim, historically the lieutenant governor window dressing. Is that more in your acceptable and your accepted commentary for me? Historically window dressing? Is that fair? Look, how Reed was treated, terrible, right? Yeah. How he was treated absolutely terrible. But the talk, and he agrees, historically it's window dressing. But the focus on on this election cycle is attorney general governor clear cut focus not nearly the same attention for lieutenant
Starting point is 00:13:30 governor yeah and in almore county with sally duncan crushing dave shrieve by double digits which was predicted on this program for the jack jewett seat on the board of supervisors there's one race of merit almore county board of supervisors the only race and it's a republican versus democrat I love the narrative that you have a competitive race in Al Morrow County for the board with a Republican and a Democrat. Historically, it is lopsided Democrat, Ken Boyd, the last Republican disorder, serve on the Board of Visitors, on the Board of Supervisors in Almore County. He was the Ryo District, the financial planner, Ken Boyd. I see missile winning by double digits as well.
Starting point is 00:14:13 If Sally Duncan beats Dave Shreve in landslide capacity double digits, you'd have to say at least at this point on paper that missile's going to win in double-digit capacity. And I have not seen anything optics-wise, campaign-wise, strategy-wise, that would suggest anything other. Like, what has Smith done? He's a likable guy. He's a likable guy. But what has Scott Smith done to narrow the gap here with Fred Missile? What aggressive maneuvering, what political maneuvering, what political science, strategyry has he done to narrow the gap. And if missiles on the board right there, you have
Starting point is 00:14:52 another very democratic board and for those that are pro-green space, for those that are potentially concerned about infrastructure and quality of life, your next thought is maybe Mike Pruitt gets off the board by winning the fifth district
Starting point is 00:15:08 in Congress, but even in that race, he's a tremendous underdog, despite his fundraising success. And Pruitt's doing the best kind of fundraising. Mike Pruitt's doing micro-fundraising. He's got a boatload of many donors contributing a little bit of money to his campaign,
Starting point is 00:15:25 way better than having one or two big donors contributing money to your campaign because it shows the power of the populace. It's one thing to have Sonia Smith and her man strike hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars to your campaign. It's another thing altogether
Starting point is 00:15:40 to have thousands of people contribute micro-donations because it shows that you have power and numbers in the populace in your corner. a lot to cover with with an election my favorite time of year what four or five days away one two three four five days away i'm going to be bringing uh my wife and i are going to be bringing our two boys to the polls with the we voted sticker on our chest proudly on on on on tuesday the conversation that we had from yesterday the feedback significant with liberty mills and the closing
Starting point is 00:16:14 of an iconic business because a few rotten apples spoil an entire barrel. You've had 24 hours to reflect on this, and I know thoughts are on your mind over here about what we talked about and may not have a chance to talk because I certainly was monologuing a lot yesterday. Give me what's on your mind with Liberty Mills in that closing. Well, I think the news of Liberty Mills farm closing for the the season and potentially not opening again. From what I've seen since news came out yesterday, it sounds like even if they do decide to stay open,
Starting point is 00:16:59 they would not be managing the business from here on out. And I don't know. I think it's probably a slim thread that they'd actually open it and find someone to take that on for them. But what's interesting is I've heard that a lot of business, a lot of other business owners, small business owners, have, I don't want to say come out of the woodwork, but they've raised their voices to say that this farm is not the only place
Starting point is 00:17:35 that has encountered this type of behavior and had to make these types of decisions when it comes to being happy to run a business and having to preside over the safety of yourself, your family, and especially your employees. And that's sad. Yeah, that is sad. And that's on us as a society.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I'm not going to say that we're worse today than we were 20 years ago or 50 years ago. Everybody's got their own metric by which they would measure those types of things. But it certainly is more visible with social media, with Google reviews and Yelp reviews. and it can't be easy as a small business owner to have to navigate those waters of people that are sometimes self-important, sometimes what's the word I'm looking for, entitled, and it doesn't take a whole lot of that
Starting point is 00:19:02 to ruin someone's passion. What's scary is the business owner might be even more fearful of the retribution digitally on social media and on the internet than in-person physical violence. Yeah. Yeah. Think about that, what I just said, viewers and listeners,
Starting point is 00:19:22 that a Liberty Mills farm is more, you know, a Maroo, and I don't know the circumstances, I do know with one of the players of the Maroo situation, and is Ty Cooper, and I respect Ty Cooper, I know Ty Cooper, I find Ty Cooper to be a man of integrity. Yeah, I would never guess he was someone that would bring false charges against the business. I know Ty Cooper, who is on social media and viral, vocal fashion saying the Maroo restaurant of the downtown mall was racist against him. I respect Ty Cooper and I know him. The Liberty Mills farm situation, it's an almost
Starting point is 00:20:01 a similar situation, but in an opposite situation, where in the Liberty Mills farm situation, you have customers that are alleging that a 70-year-old and a 63-year-old that owned Liberty Mills Farm were racist against them. The historical narrative on social media and in reviews would suggest otherwise, as would the narrative of boots on the street at the scene, including multiple police sheriffs who had to intervene, right? what we've learned here, and this is crazy to say, is the business owners in both circumstances, physical violence in person was almost more welcome than the nasty attacks digitally and socially that will follow them much longer, have a much longer tail than physical violence from a short tail in person.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Agree or disagree with that. Yeah, I think I would tend to agree. I think that, yeah, in the Meru case, I haven't heard anything to indicate that violence was ever mentioned or a part of the problem. No, that definitely is not a part of the problem. Definitely not a part of the problem with Maru. Liberty Mills, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Liberty Mills, yeah, there was talk of, having phones shoved in faces, there was a lot of yelling, and at least one of the teenage employees left the area of the people in question because they felt threatened. A teenager. Conan Owen watching the program, Sir Speedy, Central Virginia's Conan Owen, if you have a logo and you need an application for it, signage, window decals, hanging signs in hallway. signage on lobby marquees in commercial buildings, direct mail,
Starting point is 00:22:06 lanyards, the banner behind me, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia is who you call. He will get it right. His firm will get it right. And Conan Owen is a Darden graduate. He owns a business locally that is a proud ambassador of Charlottesville in Central Virginia
Starting point is 00:22:24 does a lot from a charity and philanthropy standpoint as well. He makes this comment, How is Virginia 4-0? I started the show by talking UVA and 4-0. NC State is in the Atlantic Coast Conference. How's UVA 4-0? They lost to NC State. He also says, I guess the same was SMU, Cal, and Stanford
Starting point is 00:22:40 in the Atlantic Coast Conference. These schools should have their geography department forfeit their accreditation. Well, Conan, the NC State game was technically considered an out-of-conference game. While NC State is in the ACCC, it was scheduled as an out-of-conference game, And that's why UVA is unblemished in conference play.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It was officially designated before the season started as a non-ACC game. And I get your point about Cal, SMU, and Stanford being so far away from the Mid-Atlantic and the East Coast. And how are they in the Atlantic Coast Conference? This is the world we live in of big-time money in college football, where the Big Ten, the Big 12, the SEC no longer have the blue-blood OG ties of a generation or a generation. or two ago. It's basically going to come down to three consolidated conferences, maybe four of power. Juan Sormento is watching in the Dominican Republic.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Juan Sormento is photo on screen. He says, what happened to Liberty Mills closing is tragic. It is a strange world when you can't have a freaking corn maze. Yeah, it's a strange world where the owners of a business choose to throw in the towel as opposed to working a business that they've worked for the last. 16 years. Yeah. It's a sad world. Jason Noble watching the program.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Have you all seen the obnoxious gerrymandering push the left is trying to make in Virginia? I'm not optimistic for any Republican in Almore County ever. He's talking redistricting here, Judah, if you want to add a little context. Yeah, this is something that the Democrats have been pushing.
Starting point is 00:24:22 The Republicans have been suing to stop. I don't know it's as bad as as some people are making it. Not that I think that it's a good thing. This is part of the ongoing battle between Republicans and Democrats. What this is going to turn out to be
Starting point is 00:24:42 is not necessarily that they're going to redistrict. They did pass the constitutional amendment in a 51 to 42 vote, but the amendment would allow the old dominion to redraw its house map if another state redraws its lines for a reason that isn't part of the mandated redistricting process, which happens after every 10-year U.S. census, or in response to litigation over its present map. And this would stay in effect through October 31 of 2030.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So this isn't the Democrats saying that they are going to redistrict. This is kind of like a nuke's in a cold war. We've got ours, you've got yours. If you pull the trigger on yours, we're going to pull the trigger on ours. Whether you think that's okay or not, you know, it's up for debate.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well done. Deep Throat, his comment. Sort of funny that we all agree that many people recognize that businesses have to deal with a ton of total psychos and their online retribution via scathing review sites, and then we take online review sites seriously.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It seems like a contradiction. People should put near zero faith in aggregating ratings of sites like Yelp, garbage in, garbage out, 100%. And we're in this business. One of our businesses is brand management. I highlighted this on yesterday's show. Yelp is a review site that is essentially extorting good and bad reviews. They have sales rep,
Starting point is 00:26:25 and there's many, there are lawsuits. that you could find online against Yelp about this practice. Class action lawsuits. Just do a basic Google search if you like a little more intelligence of what's happening. Yelp will have sales representatives call a small business and say you have 200 reviews online. 15% of those 200, a very small percentage, are mediocre or negative reviews. If you don't pay us advertising revenue, and they'll send them a rate card, if you don't agree to this rate card, we are going to position your mediocre and negative reviews at the top of your Yelp profile and bury your good reviews. So the average Joe and the average Jennifer only see the mediocre and the negative reviews.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And we're going to keep those negative reviews the top of your Yelp profile in our Yelp algorithm until you agree to partner with us from a advertising standpoint. That is the practice that Yelp is utilizing ladies and gentlemen. It is a version of extortion right there. The
Starting point is 00:27:35 alternative to that is ignoring the Google reviews, the Yelp reviews, the Facebook reviews, and keyboard warrior commentary. The challenge with that is you would almost have to completely
Starting point is 00:27:53 unplug from social, mobile, and digital. My wife today, we were in the Family Ford Explorer earlier today. We had a parent-teacher conference. It's parent-teacher conference time for the parents that are going through that now. Some of the private schools are doing that. And on the way to a parent-teacher conference, she mentioned to me that Apple earbuds, these earbuds right here that I have in my phone. I'm putting them in my ears now if you look at the screen viewers and listeners. There's now research out or some science out that these
Starting point is 00:28:27 earbuds Judah are way potentially more harmful for us as humans than the earbuds that have wires associated with them. Because the earbuds that have wires associated with them somehow are transmitting much
Starting point is 00:28:43 less like stimulus or much less whatever to the brain than these earbuds. radio waves whatever it is and some speculation early speculation is
Starting point is 00:28:57 these unwired earbuds are more harmful to humans than the wired headphones of when we were a kid I mean remember a walkman
Starting point is 00:29:10 or a CD player yeah and we had the huge wire plugged into the walkman or the CD player yeah that now is proving to be the safer way to listen to the music, early expectation. I guess the point is technology and innovation while done for convenience
Starting point is 00:29:28 eventually is going to erode humanity in some capacity. Does that mean in 20 years we're going to start having cases of ear cancer? Terrifying research that's online. And it's in the absolute first or second inning. But I could see it, and I wear these 10 hours a day, legitimately 10 hours a day Monday through Friday they're always
Starting point is 00:29:52 in my ear because I'm taking calls you see it take 20 or 30 calls a day the another we saw this recently we're not going to say with whom right another crazy thing that's happening is the the
Starting point is 00:30:08 cornering of the market the cornering of the market with big box brands when it comes to digital shopping big box brands like Amazon and Walmart are cornering e-commerce shopping online. Oh, they could not have asked for more than they got
Starting point is 00:30:33 with COVID during the pandemic. With COVID, 100%. You're 100% right. That was such a boon. It was a perfect storm of changing human behavior. And what's happened now? This is collateral damage of COVID. I talk about collateral damage of COVID,
Starting point is 00:30:47 all the time, and how I'm seeing it on Main Street, how I'm seeing it on Preston, how I'm seeing it on West Main, how I'm seeing it on Park, how I'm seeing it on the UVA corner, on the downtown mall in Midtown. Walmart and Amazon have opened up their platforms to vendors, and now you have local vendors selling their merchandise and their skews within the Walmart and Amazon shopping experience, right? Yeah. And Walmart and Amazon,
Starting point is 00:31:22 what they do to leverage engagement, what they do to encourage engagement of vendors, is they say they say, they say, we'll help you make money? We have significant traffic here, which will lead to immediacy
Starting point is 00:31:40 in sales, as opposed to you going through the organic battle of attracting said traffic, the ad spend, the effort, the sweat to get the traffic to your respective website. The challenge with selling your local goods, your local commodities, your local skews within Amazon and Walmart's portal of sale, their app, their websites, is the margin that's left is 65 to 70% less than the margin that you can make at your physical storefront
Starting point is 00:32:19 or if you sell it directly online on your own platform. And the challenge you have is how do you navigate this world of driving incremental sales but doing it a way that preserves the business in the long term. And the more that you have, drive incremental sales through an Amazon and a Walmart in the short term to capture quick,
Starting point is 00:32:47 easy, low-hanging fruit revenue, the more that you're strengthening those platforms for the long-term, which could work against you on the back end. So we've become this world, and COVID and the pandemic amplified this. We've become this world of immediacy and convenience, and this world of immediacy and convenience, I want it now. I want it at the cheapest price and I want it at my doorstep has resulted in a lack of human connection
Starting point is 00:33:19 and because the human connection the experience of doing something in person face to face has diminished the consumer is less likely to show empathy to the brand or business it's looking to pay or it's expecting a service from and when that brand or business
Starting point is 00:33:40 doesn't have consumer empathy or patience or connection like it did before COVID. You see these fallouts like with the Liberty Mills Farm scenario, or you see these fallouts where the average Joe and the average Jennifer just wants the product on their doorstep at the cheapest price point as possible, no matter what the damning impact it could have of buying it from a Fortune 50 big box brand and not their neighbor down the street. Yeah, 100%. I think there's also, I think there's also an issue with, it's interesting. Linguistically, language, we tend to shorten things as they become more often used.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And there was an old saying, the customer is always right in matters of taste. And we've shortened that to the customer is always right. And we've now taken it to mean that the customer. is always right. But that's not what the original quote is, that so many people seem to believe in their heart of hearts that they are always right when they go into a place of business. That is not the case. It was meant to be that the customer is always right in matters of taste. If you want a blue car, you want a blue car. You can't argue that. But now it's come to mean that, you know, if you want to,
Starting point is 00:35:10 something cheaper, if you want special treatment, then you're entitled to it. And I think entitlement is destroying businesses. Entitlement is destroying mankind. It's destroying us. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny because the customer is always right. That is like you're saying, that is not actually the case. No. If you're running a business and you want to keep it in operation for the long term,
Starting point is 00:35:46 the customer is not always right. Exactly. The customer is right within the parameters of the business that you are running. Yeah. It's not carte blotch, the customer is always right
Starting point is 00:35:59 of what their expectation is. Yeah. One of the hardest lessons I've learned in being self-employed for 20 years is the value of the word no. Routinely, we almost did this last week and you talked me out of it and you know exactly what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:36:17 and we're not going to utilize who it is but last week I straight up said no we're not going to do that project it was a you know nice payday but it was how would you
Starting point is 00:36:37 characterize this without? I mean, from my perspective, it was an insane turnaround. Yeah, well, of course. How would you characterize the project? And after 20 years, I basically was like, no, we're not doing that work. And you're like, no, I think we should consider doing this work. And you explain why. And it started off going the way of, see, I told you so, Judah. And then in the middle, it was like, see, I told you so, Judah. But in the end, it ended up being, all right. It was an all right project to do. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. It wasn't too bad. But there's always a question of, you know, is the customer going to insist on the rightness of their requests, even if those requests continue ad nauseum? And you get to the point where it's like, wait a minute. You know, we penciled this out as being worth it to do this process, for this much and if you know if the end point gets pushed if the goal line
Starting point is 00:37:45 gets pushed further and further and further away because the the the customer believes they're right and they want more or they want something changed or they want something changed again and you know and the customer and the customer when realizing that they are pushing the goal line over and over pushing it further and further away changing the playing file then utilizes tactics like, well, I need this to be able to survive, you know, need this for my business to grow. No, I can't do anything additional. A little sympathy, empathy from you, woe is me. Pull on my heartstrings type deal. And with each push of that goal line, the margin gets
Starting point is 00:38:27 slimmer. Exactly. And now I've gotten to the point after 20 years of doing this where I just from the beginning say no. And the tug on the heartstrings doesn't have the same impact it once did. Nor does the need to chase every dollar. Yeah. Like 20 years ago when you first started, because not everyone's created the same. Yeah. Comments coming in quickly. John Blair, his photo on screen. I live in the Samuel Miller District. Our house has received 11 Fred Missile mailers in the past two weeks. Nothing from Scott Smith. My wife does not follow politics very closely. She doesn't even know Scott Smith is running. I think you're correct. Fred missile, 60%, Scott Smith, 40%. Yeah, I think so too, John Blair. I think the Scott Smith
Starting point is 00:39:11 Fred missile race potentially could be even more lopsided than Dave Shreve, Sally Duncan. The best prop bet out there for Election Day and the Almore County Board of Supervisors is not an over-under with a 10% margin missile beating Smith by 10%. I'm taking the over on that. the better prop bet out there is this. Does Fred Missal beat Scottsmith by a larger margin of victory than Sally Duncan beat Dave Shreve? Well, Duncan and Shreve were both Democrats. Democrats. Yeah, but Shreve was perceived to be a center aisle Democrat and had a professional affiliation,
Starting point is 00:39:56 had a job that some associated with extremely right wing. I'm saying you're probably right, though. You're saying Smith, you're saying missile wins in a larger margin than Duncan Beach Reef. Yeah, I'm saying you're probably right. Yeah, I think I would, if I had to take a prop at, because it's Democrat versus Republican. Yeah. And Almar County is not even going to know who the candidates are. They're just going to vote DNR.
Starting point is 00:40:21 100%. Especially in a governor's race, where it's a DNR vote. Yeah, I'm with you. John Blair has this comment. He says, it's interesting. You mentioned the online show. shopping dominance of the big boys. Virginia elects its Attorney General next week.
Starting point is 00:40:36 The AG's office has an antitrust unit, just something to think about before people head to the polls. You know, my standpoint, the Attorney General race is a clear cut who you have to vote. What Jay Jones did text message-wise is
Starting point is 00:40:50 inexcusable, disgusting, it's disturbing. A vote for Jay Jones is a vote for lunacy psychotic psychosis voting for someone unhinged
Starting point is 00:41:08 someone that could even say those things right and then putting them in writing which is different worse than saying I mean it's bad enough that it's bad enough that you find out somebody actually thinks things like that
Starting point is 00:41:23 yeah K-charts watching the program the Queen of Ivy for what it's worth both Scott Smith and Fred Missal door knocked at my house. That's a response from Kate to John Blair. Both Kate and John live in the Samuel Miller District. I know which neighborhoods both live in, both fantastic, fantastic neighborhoods. I will say that John's neighborhood has more doors and density and potential voters than Kate, just because there's more houses where John lives.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm not going to say where it is. So the point that John's making that Smith did not doork his neighborhood is an indication of maybe not knowing the lay of the land versus Kate's neighborhood because of volume of houses and potential voters. I get this text message from Lauren and Ivy, who highlights a link from TechTimes.com. More than 250 scientists warn EMF from wireless devices such as Apple, AirPods, poses cancer risk.
Starting point is 00:42:29 More than 250 scientists have signed a petition calling for international public health organization to create stronger guidelines on wireless devices. In a letter addressed to the heads of the United Nations and the World Health Organization, a group of scientists expressed concern over the public's increased exposure to non-ionizing electromagnetic fields, EMF, generated by electric and wireless devices. They cited scientific studies that showed the ill effects of EMF, which include increased cancer risk, genetic damages, neurological disorders, and learning deficits, among others.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And Apple AirPods, the main culprit, which uses Bluetooth technology, it emits EMF radiation. I literally have these in my ears like 8 to 10 hours a day, Monday through Friday, which is terrifying. That's interesting. I was, last time I went on vacation, and I was driving my mom's car a little bit, She had this USB thing plugged into her car.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like, what the heck is this? And apparently it's some type of EMF blocker, protector. I don't know. But it was pretty wild. She said a lot of the newer cars are either getting them or suggesting people get them to protect themselves. These Apple AirPods, AirPods, were a Christmas gift. And I use this Christmas gift more than any Christmas gift I've gotten in an extremely long time,
Starting point is 00:44:02 except for maybe like a squash racket. No, no, no, I take that back. I use this Christmas gift more than any Christmas gift I've gotten in probably 10 years. I use these more than I use a squash racket, which is like an hour to two hours a day. Okay? So use these more than anything right here. The convenience and the quality of life improvement from these AirPods, these Apple earbuds, has been off the charts. But it goes back to my original statement.
Starting point is 00:44:34 The convenience and innovation has side effects, and those side effects are humanity, erosion, human connection, erosion, health erosion. Small business erosion, community erosion, ideology erosion, goodwill, golden rule erosion. The convenience from technology and innovation eroding all that. And ask yourself if it's a better, if it's a better community, if it's a better a world than pre-COVID. think a lot of this is a COVID collateral damage. Now, a lot of this was going to happen regardless, but it was certainly expedited. Yeah. Janice Boyce Trevillian says, you do not want brain cancer, Judah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I certainly do not. She also says EMF blockers are available for your home as well. Lynn Snyder says Liberty Mills is not the only farm in the area, and at what point do we as a society get off the crazy wheel? I mean, where would Sam Walton be if he shut down every single thing that upset the apple cart? I mean, it goes both ways, but if we are in the position now that people that close down and take their game home, I don't want to play with you anymore. I mean, as a business, are you not in the position to always, always the customer is always right?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Are you not in the position to say the customer is not always right? I bet you Sam Walton, if he saw what Walmart was today, Sam Walton would be disappointed in the Walmart that he knows today. Batonville, Arkansas, Sam Walton who created a the first Walmart would not be happy with the Walmart he saw it's making a boatload of money it's one of the most powerful companies in the world
Starting point is 00:46:30 there's no question but it's putting out of business the Sam Walton's that's crazy Walmart today would have put Sam Walton out of business think about that no doubt
Starting point is 00:46:46 William McChesney, welcome to the broadcast. We appreciate you, William. Print, radio, and television, welcome to the broadcasts. All right, we'll close the program with this, and we appreciate all the viewers and listeners that are watching the show. Watch the game on Saturday, Judah. I know it's not your cup of tea, but 3.45.
Starting point is 00:47:11 They get this ballgame. It's downhill to an ACC championship. Three games left. Wake Forest. Virginia Tech, two of those at home, front runners to play in an ACC championship with a birth in the college football playoff on the horizon. What are the chances of those in those last games? I mean, I would imagine you beat Cow your favorite in every other game except maybe Duke,
Starting point is 00:47:33 which is a toss-up, pick-em. And that's only because it's in Durham. I'm not going to say it's a slam dunk to beat Virginia Tech at home because of the history against the Hokies. It's pretty amazing. If there's any year where Virginia Tech is a good. going to be a double-digit favorite to win at home, according to the Standardsville odds makers.
Starting point is 00:47:51 It would be this year. We still know the history with the Hokies. It's 345 kick ESPN2, ladies and general. We'll give some love to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. They've been in business for 61 years. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. Online at Charlottesfelsanitary Supply.com, located on East High Street.
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Starting point is 00:48:24 Free local delivery. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply on East High Street and Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com. I highlight our friends at Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes as well. I talked about them at the beginning of the show. I've seen firsthand what they do with custom hardscapes.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It is gorgeous. And the return on investment at a custom hardscape at your house is not just financial, it's experiential, its quality of life, it's memories, it's love, it's lasting. Oak Valley Custom Heartscapes, ladies and gentlemen, the heartscape vendor for Charlottesville, Almarron, Central Virginia. Tomorrow at 10.15 a.m., Batman, the Boy Wonder Robin, Captain America, Alfred, and perhaps a villain. I think it's Hellboy, but I'm not certain. I do know that the Cape Crusaders will be here as long as as as well as alfred hell boy's not a villain hell boy's not a villain yeah
Starting point is 00:49:20 hell boy is a good boy what's what's how boy's uh gang affiliation or group affiliation uh it's uh bpr d what's bpd br pd i'd i'd have to look it up it's uh it was then maybe it's not hell boy because i'm i'm i'm told we're going to have a villain but think with the name like Howboy would be a villain? I don't know the as you do. He kind of teeters on the edge at times
Starting point is 00:49:51 but I don't think we need to get into the details. He's a good guy though. Okay, maybe Hellboy time will tell. That's at 10.15 and then we close the show with the I Love Seville show tomorrow at 12.30. For Judah Woodcarrow, I'm Jerry Miller. So long, everybody.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Thank you. Thank you.

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