The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Eljo's Traditional Clothes For Sale; Eljo's Has Been In Business Since 1950

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. area, the connector road to Ivy Road to get out of our neighborhood was flooded. We were uncertain, my wife and I, I drive our oldest son to school, and we were uncertain if our family Toyota, we have a family Ford Explorer and a family Toyota Avalon could make it over this treacherous path, a flooded road right in the urban ring, right across the city line in Ivy. Fortunately, the roads cleared. We navigated the flooded, treacherous path, and I got the wee land to school in time on a Thursday, a soggy Thursday, but I've heard reports that Old Garth Road has been flooded. And I've heard parents ask the question, why were schools not delayed because of these types of conditions? The rain we had over the weekend, excuse me, over the night was a severe thunderstorm. If it did not wake you up, it certainly woke up
Starting point is 00:01:25 my wife and I, rattling the house and brightening our bedroom with lightning strikes and thunder rumbles. And the crazy thing is more rain, ladies and gentlemen, in the forecast. I think we went through the dog days of summer with very little precipitation, our yards, our grass, our gardens, and our plants browning and dying. And it seems in the last, what, 10 days, you got Noah's Ark. We just need a pair of giraffes and a pair of hippopotamus, a pair of koalas, and a pair of grizzly bears to trot their way onto Noah's Ark and look to stay afloat. All right, let me get to today's rundown. There's a lot we're going to cover on the show. Looks like the fourth headline, Jude, on your rundown is cut off and needs some massaging. And you can just strike a manning there
Starting point is 00:02:25 to get Institute on. We're going to talk Eljo's Traditional Clothes and the fact that an iconic business that's been around for 74 years is now for sale. Eljo's is a clothing store that I think is as iconic as just about any business in this community.
Starting point is 00:02:47 First started in 1950 by a pair of brothers. A pair of brothers, one who graduated from the University of Virginia, one who dropped out of the University of Virginia. Joe graduated in 1949 and L dropped out of the University of Virginia. And together, the brothers started a store in 1950. And L and Joe Hyman had an eye for taste in class and they had an eye for the finer things of life. And Miles Thurston, during his senior year of high school, he had no plans to go to college because his expectation was to be drafted into Vietnam like many his age. He joined the Marine Corps on his 17th birthday, went to active duty after high school graduation, and served until he was 19. Miles returned from service in 1964, was not called to Vietnam, came back
Starting point is 00:03:48 to Charlottesville, and found a job at Aljo's Traditional Clothes. Now Miles Thurston and friend of the program, his son Trent, have their iconic business on the market and are looking for the third generation owner to continue their fantastic legacy of dressing alumni, locals, tourists alike with some of the finer clothing possible. We'll cut to the chase. Times have changed. Another piece of collateral damage, I think, since COVID and the pandemic and lockdown and this Zoom world. Look around. Working professionals just are not wearing the same kind of, how would I characterize this? The suits, the business suits, the sports coats, the ties, the button down shirt. I think this is something yours truly has fallen victim to. Prior to COVID
Starting point is 00:04:52 on this talk show, you found me in one of 10 sports coats and button down shirts of the 25 or 30 variety slacks that were pressed and iron and, and yes, rainbow sandals, but from ankles up, it was always, um, dressed to the nines. And since COVID,
Starting point is 00:05:14 I find myself now wearing rowbacks and Lululemon, um, slacks and tennis shoes. Today, I have a pair of white Asics gel rockets on. COVID's changed so much. This Zoom work from home and COVID has changed Trent Thurston's perspective on carrying on the family business. Trent, again, a friend has said, look, I for two months did not go into work at Aljo's. The store was closed in 2020. And in that time, I realized that I
Starting point is 00:05:47 needed a change before I became much older. And now that his father is retiring, Miles Thurston, who again started working at Eljo's in the 60s, the business is in a bit of transition. The Thurstons are going to give Eljos to the end of the year. If they can't find a buyer, they are going to have a fire sale and have one last hurrah with their customers and clients. I've been told that there are a handful of interested parties potentially looking at purchasing Eljos and continuing the legacy. But we will be straightforward.
Starting point is 00:06:25 There are headwinds for the fine clothing market and how people purchase fine clothing. The Internet has changed so much of our consumer behavior, and it certainly has with Eljo's. So we'll talk about Eljo's, its legacy. There's not many businesses in this community that have been around 74 years, ladies and gentlemen. And we will compare and contrast it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Frankly, Judah, you have to update this list, iloveseville.com forward slash old Seville restaurants. Do we have one? Actually, this isn't a restaurant. Do we have one that is not tied to restaurants, an iconic business? Not yet. One on I Love Seville? I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Maybe that could be a piece of content we create on iloveseville.com. You did a fantastic job, Judah Wickauer, of creating this list, the oldest and longest running restaurants around Charlottesville, Virginia. You can find that at iloveseville.com forward slash oldseavillerestaurants. In fact, a friend of the program that is watching right now, Stephanie Wells-Rhodes, her family business, Interstate, fits that model. Stephanie, is it 1969, if memory serves correct, your family business launched by your grandfather with one truck and pay phones around the Charlottesville area? I believe it's 1969. That could be another one we add to the iconic business list. We'll unpack some of the institutions in this community that have proudly served Charlottesville,
Starting point is 00:08:00 Albemarle County, and beyond. I'm excited for this show. We'll also talk on this program, the Richmond Times Dispatch. I hate to say this. Pink Slipping, David Thiel, and Mike Barber. They laid them off. I grew up in Williamsburg, Virginia, and I grew up reading the Daily Press. And the Daily Press, its star columnist was David Thiel. David Thiel was laid off by the Daily Press and found a new home at the Richmond Times Dispatch. And within the last handful of dozen hours, Mike Barber and David Teal have both been told by Lee Enterprise and 60s that are potentially having to reinvent themselves professionally. I want to talk about what's happening with legacy media. I want to highlight the careers of David Thiel and Mike Barber on today's program. You're looking at two reporters, sports writers, that are as iconic as that you will find in the Commonwealth of Virginia, frankly, the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Okay. The only one potentially that has more of an icon status is my colleague and friend, Jerry Hootie Ratcliffe, the co-host of the Jerry and Jerry show. We'll also talk on today's program, the University of Virginia climbing in the U.S. News and World's Report National Rankings. I want to highlight tomorrow that Neil Williamson is going to be on the show. He's going to co-host Real Talk with me. We will find out if there are additional guests from Neil shortly,
Starting point is 00:09:59 but he will be in the co-host saddle tomorrow at 10.15 a.m. And next week, on the 3rd of October, we have Jefferson Council President Thomas Neal in the house to talk about the state of the University of Virginia. So much to cover on the show. We'll highlight Johnny Ornelas and Mexicali Restaurant Judah with some imagery. Mexicali on West Main Street
Starting point is 00:10:26 50 parking spaces on site Johnny and his friend River just built quite an impressive business a business that if it continues with this kind of success is going to be an icon very shortly and very soon thereof Johnny and Mexicali
Starting point is 00:10:42 thank you for being a partner of the show Pro Renata I think is heading into icon status. The Disney world of Crozet. Pro Renata's got points of sale everywhere. Real estate development, hiring nearly 100 people, buying brewery equipment that's nearly a million dollars in value from the old Skipping Rock location, and now improving its product.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I mean, I'm so impressed with the beer baron, John Shave, and what he has done going from dentist to beer baron. Judah Wickower will welcome you on a two-shot. Let me know when you're on there. I start the program with the same question every week, every show. What is the headline, Judah, that you are most intrigued to chitter-chatter about today? I think Aljo's is compelling it tells a story
Starting point is 00:11:28 not just how businesses have changed but also how styles have changed. I think we don't realize sometimes that that Aljo's being on the corner was actually used by students. There used to be a time when students were dressed as well as lawyers, and LJS is where they got their clothes. My dad went to the University of Virginia, first started as a student in 1968.
Starting point is 00:12:00 He was a graduate of Hampton High School in the Peninsula District, a proud Hampton crabber. The middle child of three brothers, my dad. His oldest brother, Jack, went to West Virginia University in Morgantown. My father dropped off by his father, Jules Miller, my grandfather, who has since passed away a long time ago. And times were different. My grandfather visited my father
Starting point is 00:12:32 twice at the University of Virginia, despite being less than three hours away. The first time when he dropped him off for school as a first year. And the second and last time... When he graduated?
Starting point is 00:12:49 When he graduated from school. Every time in between, when my father had to come to and from Charlottesville to his home in Mary Mack Shores in Hampton, Virginia, he caught a ride with friends or he hitchhiked home. He hitchhiked home from Charlottesville to Hampton as a first year, as a second year, as a third year, as a fourth year. When he started at attend classes in a coat and tie, a requirement. If it's 105 degrees, he wore a coat and tie, slacks and nice shoes, button-down shirt. If it's freezing cold, coat,
Starting point is 00:13:38 tie, slacks, button-down shoes, button-down shirt and nice shoes. Then he vividly remembers the University of Virginia when he started, which was all men, all male. In the middle of his time at the university, women were admitted. And what started in 1968 as a coat, tie, butt-down shirt, pressed slacks and nice shoes finished, he said, with tank tops,
Starting point is 00:14:11 shorts, Birkenstocks, sandals, and long hair. While he was still there? While he was still there. Wow. Said it was in a complete 180. And as you highlighted, students, when they first, male students, when UVA was all men, it was dressed to the nines. When I went to UVA, when I chose to go to class, it was in rainbow sandals, cargo shorts,
Starting point is 00:14:34 and tank tops, much like what my dad remembered upon graduating from school. When Aljo's first launched, it was positioned in an iconic location to help grow its iconic brand on the UVA corner. That's when I first got a taste of the Thurston's brand was on Ellywood Avenue as a student. Then much to my much to my enjoyment and much to my pleasure and much to my pleasure and much to my enrichment, I got to meet Trent Thurston. Trent is a diehard UVA sports fan. Trent used to travel with the basketball team during the Pete Gillen era.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And I used to host a sports talk show for multiple media companies. The first one, when it was Clear Channel Communication on Sports Radio 1400 WKAV, then Monticello Media and George Reed, an out-of-market radio baron, purchased a handful of stations from Clear Channel Communications. Some of those stations were Country 99.7 WCYK, Hot 101.9.
Starting point is 00:15:46 What was Vinny Kais on? Vinny Kais was on, gosh. He was on a classic station. News Talk 1260 WCHV, 107.5 was in that mix, and our little station, Sports Radio 1400 WKAV. So I'm hosting this talk show fresh out of UVA, working for the Daily Progress for Jerry Hootie Ratcliffe. Part-time job leads to full-time job. Full-time job at the Daily Progress leads to a 30-minute Saturday radio show. A 30-minute Saturday radio show turns into an hour,
Starting point is 00:16:19 then two hours, then it turns into Monday through Friday in the drive time slot. And Trent Thurston was a diehard sports fan. He listened to the show. Then he started sponsoring the show as a partner. Then he started offering Eljo's giveaways on the show. And I got to know him. And then once a week he would
Starting point is 00:16:40 start coming on the show and talking sports with me on the program. It was one of the heyday, probably the last heyday of AM talk radio. And at that point, I realized that this guy loves the brand Eljo's. He loves the University of Virginia. He loves Charlottesville. And he has an opinion on a lot of things. And he's quick to offer that opinion on a lot of things. And it's bittersweet. He says that it's absolutely bittersweet in multiple media stories. The latest on the UVA website, news.virginia.edu. He said, I had an awakening during COVID when the store was closed for two months and that i wanted to
Starting point is 00:17:27 do something completely different now both mile both trent and his father miles say the store is doing great yeah the store is doing great i was very impressed with what was it the the uh they do 600 custom sports coats a year each with with a price tag of about $1,200, the first in say. And they've pivoted strongly away from UVA. Had to. Yeah. Had to pivot strongly away from a student walk in, we need clothes. When Eljo's open, the student could go in, be outfitted with clothes, and on an honor
Starting point is 00:18:07 code payment system, could leave with the clothes without paying on a handshake with the owners and say, we'll pay you what we owe when we can. And the owners would be fine with that. I believe that was their stipulation oftentimes. And on top of that, they weren't charging interest. Weren't charging the VIG. Yeah. Well, I hope they find a buyer. I hope the buyer's the right buyer that continues the Thurston legacy, the Al and Joe legacy. I hope we see Al Joe's traditional clothes that is in his 74th year celebrate 100 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I would love to see that. Yeah, it's great to see businesses that have sustained themselves in a community like this continue. This has led. And pass the torch? This has led you and I to ask the question, the icons of icons, the Ragged Mountain Running Shops of the Charlottesville area, the Eljo's of the Charlottesville area, the Timber Creek, Timberlake Drugstore, Timberlake Drugstore founded in 1890, ladies and gentlemen. The fantastic lunch counter with milkshakes and grilled cheeses and a wood-burning fireplace in the back of a drugstore. The
Starting point is 00:19:33 Virginian restaurants that just celebrated a 100-year anniversary founded in 1923. Mickey Tavern in 1928. Riverside Lunch in 1935, Jack and Jill's in 1944, The Corner Restaurant, The Templetons, founded in 1950, The Nook in 1951, The White Spot in 1953, Foods of All Nations in 1955, The Mill Room, 1964 at Boar's Head. The Aberdeen Barn in 1965. How many recruits had their recruitment closed, signed, sealed, and delivered at the booths of the Aberdeen Barn, those circular booths of a classic steakhouse, upholstered with the red covering, with some cheese dip and those pretzel sticks and the prime rib and the coaches drinking martinis
Starting point is 00:20:26 out of martini glasses, the loaded baked potato with the ramekin that would spin in a circle, the bacon bits, the cheese crumbles, the bacon bit crumbles. Iconic. Good stuff. Lumpkins, founded in 1970.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Now no more. Needs to be removed for that list, Judah. iloveseville.com forward slash old seville restaurants the ivn 1973 integral yoga 1975 cno 1976 blue moon diner 1979 millers 1981 dave matthews birthed at millers not literally but a career platformed in trampoline from playing open mics while bartending to make some extra money at Miller's, Dave Matthews.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Mel's Cafe, 1984. I want to ask you, the viewer and listener, this question. Some of the iconic businesses that have withstood the test of time. The Interstate 19, is it Stephanie? 1969, your grandfather with one truck, some stick-to-itiveness,
Starting point is 00:21:37 and pay phones around the community? I believe it's 1969 for interstate. Ragged Mountain Running Shop, the Lorenzoni's have now passed that on to their children to run and to manage and to grow and to expand. What other jumps, what other brands jump out, ladies and gentlemen? Help us crowdsource a list of iconic and institutional businesses. We got a really good one on iloveseville.com. I will share the link in the personal comments of my personal Facebook page. So if you go to facebook.com forward slash Jerry Miller now, I just share the link in
Starting point is 00:22:23 the comment section of my personal Facebook page. Holly Foster and Henrico's watching over there. We love to put together an iconic businesses. Yes, sir. James Watson. We did say CNO and thank you for that suggestion, sir. We appreciate James Watson, 1976 founded. We have a fantastic list of iconic businesses in the restaurant category. We love one that's not tied to restaurants and we need your help. Let's crowd source it together. Eljo's 1950. Logan Wells Claylow watching the program. She says her husband worked at Eljo's for 25 years. I enjoyed meeting your husband at the Boar's Head, Logan Wells-Colello. Good man you got there.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Brown's Lock opened the same year. Oh, you're educating me there. We should start writing a list there, J-Dubs. Oh, you already? Look at that. Judah's Enterprising and on top of it. Brown's Lock and Safe, what year? 1950.
Starting point is 00:23:24 1950 for Brown's Lock and Safe, what year? 1950. 1950 for Brown's Lock and Safe. Okay. We got 1950 for Eljo's and 1950 for Brown's Lock and Safe. I'm going to do a quick Google for Ragged Mountain Running Shop. Literally doing this on the fly with you, the viewer and listener. 40 plus years for Ragged Mountain Running Shop. Let's have it right on their website. So you got 40 plus on Ragged, the Lorenzoni's.
Starting point is 00:23:57 What else comes to mind? How about Bailey Printing on Harris Street? I mean, look at Bailey Printing. That jumps out to mind for me. To the Google of Bailey Printing viewers and listeners, let us know your ideas. We don't have all the answers. Company history on Bailey Printing on the drop-down menu.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Bailey Printing opened for business in 1950. As an architectural blueprint provider for local architects. Bailey Printing opened for business in 1950. Another 1950. As an architectural blueprint provider for local architects. That's another 1950. So you have Aljo's Traditional Clothes, 1950, Bailey Printing, 1950, and Brown's Lock and Safe in 1950. What else comes to mind? The other men's shop. What's the year on that one?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Let's see. How about R.E. Lee Enterprises? That one is a pretty significant history behind it. Let me see if I can find that. The Lee Building Company. R.E. history behind it. Let me see if I can find that. The Lee Building Company. Oh, there's a Sevillepedia probably created by Sean Tubbs of R.E. Lee and Son.
Starting point is 00:25:16 R.E. Lee and Son is one of the oldest construction firms in Virginia which originated in Charlottesville. 19... which originated in Charlottesville. 1949 for that one. Oh, excuse me, 1939. R.E. Lee was co-founded in 1939 by Robert Edward Lee, a mechanical engineer, and his son, Robert Irwin Lee. The Lees moved to Charlottesville in 1911.
Starting point is 00:25:50 The younger Lee, 1908 to 1978, his time on this planet, attended Charlottesville High School and graduated from the University of Virginia School of Engineering in 1929 with a BS in civil engineering. He served as a major in the Army Corps of Engineers in World War II from 43 to 45. I love this stuff, man. The third generation representative of this family-owned business is Robert Irwin Lee Robin. I'm doing some business with Robin now, the treasurer of the company. This business, R.E. Lee & Son, founded Judah in 1939. And if you think that's good, I don't have the actual year yet, but they're touting themselves.
Starting point is 00:26:35 The men's and boys' shop touts themselves as the oldest continuously operating business in Charlottesville. Wow! I'll have to get a year on that though. Oldest continuously operating business in Charlottesville. Well, we know for a fact that's got to be, we need a year from them because Timber Creek drugstore has been around since 1890. Yeah. You do some quick math for me on that. 1890 to 1990 is 100 years, plus 134 years for Timber Creek, or excuse me, Timberlake. 134 years for Timberlake Drugstore. Is that the longest running icon in the Charlottesville area? We need a year from the men and boy shop. Bill McChesney, this is right up
Starting point is 00:27:23 your alley, sir. Logan Wells Claylow, this is right up your alley. We'd love to crowdsource a list of the longest running businesses. We have them for restaurants. And the Charlottesville, James Watson's offering some perspective. He says Fitzgerald Tire. Judah, can you do some recon on Fitzgerald Tire? James Watson, I love that you're contributing to this show sir you're making us better james watson you let us know fitzgerald tire if you can find any recon on intel on recon uh fitzgerald tire james watson also says brown's dry cleaners on
Starting point is 00:27:55 preston it's now called skyline cleaners i met the gentleman who owns it a few weeks ago when i dropped something off and i think he said it had been in the same family for about 40 years. Brown's Dry Cleaners is one to put on the list, as is Fitzgerald Tire. Vanessa Parkhill, the queen of Earleysville, watching the program. She says Allied Concrete. Let me see if I can do some recon on Allied Concrete. We could do this together, viewers and listeners. This is going to be a flip book of Charlottesville history, this Today Show. Allied Concrete, since 1943, Vanessa Parkhill, that's a great one, VP. Since 1943 for Allied Concrete. Our history, let me read a Our history. Let me read a little history.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Allied Concrete was founded as Allied Supply Company by Wilson McNeely, a 1943 graduate of the School of Architecture at the University of Virginia. In the beginning, Allied Supply Company manufactured concrete block done manually using wooden molds. Still today, Allied Concrete is locally owned
Starting point is 00:29:14 and has grown to be the premier manufacturer of concrete masonry units and a supplier of masonry supplies to contractors and homeowners with locations all over Virginia. Excellent call, VP. What did you find on Fitzgerald? Fitzgerald Tire was 1973. 1973 for Fitzgerald? So what's that, 27 and 41?
Starting point is 00:29:41 You do some quick math on that? 51 years for Fitzgerald? That's a good one, James Watson. Anything 50 plus. Make sure you have interest rate on there. Rob Neal. Hansman and Weeble. The CPAs, right, Rob?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Right down the street from us? Gosh, Rob, you make the program better, my friend. 1928 for Hansman and Weeble, Judah. They're about to hit 100 years on that. God, that gives me goosebumps. Creating something that has 100 years of sustainability and longevity in business. Neil Williamson, he's going to co-host Real Talk with me tomorrow at 10.15 a.m. He's got two for us, Judah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Neil, you make the program better all the time. Support the free enterprise forum. Love this guy. J.F. Bell Funeral Home, 1917 for J.F. Bell Funeral Home. Is that the one right down the street from us here on the mall, Judah, in downtown? I believe so. He also says the Charlottesville Regional Chamber of Commerce, Judah. 1913 for the Charlottesville Regional Chamber of Commerce.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Rob and Neil, you're making us better. God, 1913 for the Regional Chamber of Commerce. Neil's got another good one for us. The Charlottesville Area Association of Realtors turns 100 years old next year. 100 years old for Carr. Think about an organization that has had to pivot and navigate headwinds. All of these have.
Starting point is 00:31:23 John Blair watching the program. Ah, John Blair's watching the show. He's got history and knows it inside and out. Heartwood Books on the Corner, Judah. 1975 for Heartwood Books on the Corner. Judah's burning through the pen and the paper over there. Heartwood Books on the Corner, 1975. He says, if you know anything about
Starting point is 00:31:48 Ellywood Avenue, that used to have some interesting businesses back in the day. He also says, Virginia National Bank opened in 1998. So they're 26. What, Virginia National Bank started by the Craig family, if I'm correct, right? Crozet Hardware founded in 1949, Judah.
Starting point is 00:32:14 How about Martin's Hardware? John's got me thinking. Making us better there, John Blair. Martin's Hardware. I'm going to the About page. We're literally doing this together, guys. Good Lord, Martin Hard hardware was founded in 1893 tell me if you need me to slow down here jdubs i mean this is going to get unwieldy uh before long
Starting point is 00:32:35 we're going to have to set a threshold of at least 50 to 60 years to be on this list yeah martin harbors 18 what 1893 for martin hardware man that is amazing i bet they weren't selling gas grills back then that's judah joke right there but i'm that's a good one give you some props on there that means martin hardware is i'm literally having to do some quick math here 124 131 years old yeah Martin Hardware is 131 years old. Here's the history of Martin Hardware. Martin Hardware has been around for more than 131 years, almost 60 years ago. And this is a little off because they haven't updated the copy on their about page in some time here. But we moved to our present location at 941 preston avenue that was about 70 years ago
Starting point is 00:33:27 they moved to preston avenue since the beginning martin hardware has served the community offering builders hardware paint and lacquer plumbing electrical welding supplies and now an extensive line of weber and traeger grills martin hardware even offers a convenient propane tank exchange right at our store we also maintain a stock of housewares and seasonal items services like duplicating keys and re-keying of locks, look at how they've had to pivot to stay relevant
Starting point is 00:33:56 and to compete with the big boxes like Lowe's and now soon Home Depot there used to be a viewers and listeners help me remember this, there used to be a, viewers and listeners, help me remember this. There used to be a hardware store directly across from Martin's. Remember? Directly across from Preston Avenue, there used to be a hardware store. They were competing directly with each other. Oh, Janice Boyce Trevelyan helped us suggest Martin Hardware. Thank you, JBT. I didn't see
Starting point is 00:34:24 your comment. She said 1893. Logan Wells Claylow's got another one for you. Logan, you're great at this. So are you, Janice. You ready for this one, Judah? New Dominion Bookstore, 1924, by her great uncle, C.C. Wells. 1924 for New Dominion Bookstore.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Nice. She's got another one for you. Tell me when you're ready. I know I'm throwing a lot of stuff at you here. All right. McGuire Woods Law Firm. 1834. Good God.
Starting point is 00:35:00 1834. But McGuire Woods Law Firm. That means McGuire Woods Law Firm. That means McGuire Woods Law Firm is 190 years old? Who's going to beat that? The McGuire Woods Law Firm was founded in 1834
Starting point is 00:35:15 according to Logan Wells Kaleilo. And she knows this stuff. She knows Charlottesville like the Pope knows Holy Water. Maria Marshall Barnes says, you should look into Tarleton Oak Service Station. That's the one right over here
Starting point is 00:35:32 where it's downtown, heads into North Downtown on High Street. In fact, there's a big sign in front of the Tarleton Oak Service Station that it's for sale, and they're hyping the development potential of Tarleton Oak Service Station. But she says, let me see if I can look into that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And Logan Wells-Claylow is exactly right. Thank you, Logan. You're making me better here. Across from Martin's Hardware was Meadowbrook Hardware. I remember as a student at the University of Virginia going to Meadowbrook. That one didn't win the hardware wars. Oh my gosh, look at the website for Tarleton Oak right here.
Starting point is 00:36:12 This is legitimately a website that was last updated on April 17, 2012. It says it on the bottom. So that means Tarleton Oak Service Center is 47 years old, Judah. Nice. 47 for Tarleton Oak, Center is 47 years old, Judah. Nice. 47 for Tarleton Oak if you're writing that one down. Good call there, Maria Marshall Barnes.
Starting point is 00:36:33 We're doing some crowdsourcing of the most iconic and institutional businesses. Ah, more are coming on my page. Stephanie Wells Rhodes, 1969 for Interstate. So I was right on that. I'll tell a little glimmer of the Interstate story. I know this one firsthand with working with this fantastic family business. Stephanie's grandfather started Interstate as a pest control company in 1969. This gentleman, who has since passed away,
Starting point is 00:37:06 had his personal truck and he used pay phones around the Charlottesville area to call his customers and give them a heads up that he was coming to pest control their house. To offer pest control services to their house. Then her grandfather brought his son, Stephanie's father, into the business, Mr. Greg Wells.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Mr. Greg Wells, fantastic human being, an American Legion baseball coach. And Stephanie's father took what was one truck in a man's business and boomed it into the American dream success story. Interstate, a handful of years ago, was acquired by American Pest, the pest control portion of the business. The service company
Starting point is 00:38:06 is still in operation and is doing fantastic work with Greg Wells leading the charge. Stephanie's brother. You're looking at a three, four generation business right there. I love this kind of stuff. Neil Williamson says, tools, jewelers.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I saw Mary the other day at Tool, outside Tools, walking to her jewelry store. She's changed. I talk about how the world has changed. I used to wear, uh, and I still have them nice watches, very nice watches, three or four of them that I would rotate and I'd have to change the battery on them. And I take them to tools, talk to Mary. She'd change them for me. She'd do any repair work for me. Now I wear an Apple watch
Starting point is 00:38:53 that is not nearly as nice looking. Basically, it's a plastic piece of crap that I think is made in China. But the reason I wear it pretty much is for this purpose here. Where's my iPhone? Oh, there it is right there. And the ability to count calories while working out.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I often look at this watch and be like, why am I wearing this plastic piece of crap from China instead of the nice watches that I have? Often I think about that. He says tools 1945. Here's another one, Judah. Rob Neal, UVA Credit Union 1954. Nora Gaffney, you guys are awesome. Do you have WA Hartman memorials? Are you writing these down? Trying to. Let's see. You don't have W.A. Hartman Memorials. No, she asked that question.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I know we don't have them on there. W.A. Hartman Memorials, 1925. They're in their 99th year? That is amazing. Congratulations. As someone whose business is 16 years old, I hope to have that kind of longevity. 99th year for WA Hartman Memorials.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'm getting goosebumps over here. We'll do our best. John Blair's got one for you. Ready for this one, Judah? Yeah. WINA was founded in 1949. Wow. This is their 75th anniversary.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He says, am I the only one a little surprised that they haven't made a bigger deal out of their 75th anniversary? Absolutely champion that. The general manager, is he the vice president right now? Friend of the program. Garrett Klingle. Oh, he's the president and general manager.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Garrett Klingle is making moves, baby. The president and general manager of the Charlottesville Radio Group, Garrett Klingle. Now this radio cluster, News Radio 1070 WINA. 75 years, unbelievable. Garrett Klingel, the president and general manager of 97.3, 3WV, 97.5, 3WV, Z95, country 92.7, 106.1 in the corner, 1450 Fox Sports Radio and News Radio 1070 WINA he started as an ad sales representative
Starting point is 00:41:29 that I was doing business with with some of my clients he was repping some of our clients like Scott Wagner Sports Medicine we were doing business placing ad sales and now he is the president and general manager of this radio group props and kudos to you, Garrett Klingel.
Starting point is 00:41:47 An amazing trajectory, professional. Unbelievable. Such an incredible community we live in. I know oftentimes on this program, we talk about the challenges the community faces, the headwinds. And I highlight what I find to be dysfunction at times with the burden placed on taxpayers and the don't see the force through the trees decision making with elected officials. And I highlight how UVA is expediting gentrification in our community and I highlight those headwinds
Starting point is 00:42:31 and those challenges because I love the community so much it's not citizen it's points of concern that I'm seeing that I want to potentially help change by utilizing our platform to bring them to the attention because we see media outlets are watching the program. Why are media outlets watching the program? Look at what the Richmond Times Dispatch just did. They just laid off their two most iconic and institutional sports writers, Mike Barber and David Thal. And now those beats and columns will be covered by rookies. Lower paid, cheaper personnel that is going to have to work harder for less money. Do more with less. And when you have to do more with less, you are
Starting point is 00:43:19 devaluing the product you're providing readers and you're doing an injustice to the community. I see with the platform, we have media outlets all over Central Virginia watching the show, scouring news coverage. And I want to put the platform and utilize it in a way where it's the water cooler of our community. But today's program highlights how much we love Charlottesville. We've spent the last 50 minutes championing the most iconic businesses in a community. Judah's already done a hell of a job putting together the iconic restaurant list. When you put this iconic business list together, make sure you co-promote, make sure you mingle or cross promote the iconic restaurant list. So viewers and listeners and readers alike can toggle from the list of iconic businesses over to the list of iconic restaurants. We want cross traffic on both, please, sir.
Starting point is 00:44:23 UVA Hospital, judah 1828 maria marsh our janice boyce trevillian 28 1828 the uva hospital about to celebrate a hundred year anniversary uva hospital better do some pr and damage control and i'll leave it at that 1828 for uva hospital. Do we have Hill and Wood on there? Not yet. Hill and Wood is another one. Good night. Goodness gracious. I think we have three funeral parlors in there. Being in the business of death must be a... There sounds like there's some upside in the business of death. What are the things that we're always going to face in life?
Starting point is 00:45:14 What's the saying? Death and taxes. Death and taxes. There's an accounting firm in there and there's some funeral parlors in there. Death and taxes, ladies and gentlemen. Hill and Wood was 1907. 1907 for Hill and Wood. That was a great one.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Death and taxes. We've got CPA firms and funeral parlors. Kevin Higgins, we got Martin Hardware. Yes, sir, 1893. James Watson, I often wonder what the future of classic old school high-end watches is now that we have all these Apple watches. I think the, James, I know one of my hobbies is the, is watches.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm still wearing an Apple watch, and by no means are any of my fancy watches of the, you know, Rolex variety. They are not. They're pegs lower than the Rolexes, but I like to follow this category well, closely. The high-end watch category, the Rolex, the Pateks and above, they are crushing it. They have proven to be over centuries of time a fantastic investment and do a very good job of holding their value, especially if you maintain the condition of the watch face and the band and you keep the box and the paperwork that come with it. You're talking about something that returns value,
Starting point is 00:46:48 not like a car where it's dropping 30% or 40% in clip as soon as you drive it off the lot after purchasing it new. The Rolex return on investment is significant over time. And that's a piece. It's not even like a watch. It's a timepiece that can be passed on from generation to generation. Olivia Branch, the JFL Funeral Home. I believe we have that on that list. Do we, Judah?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. Thank you, OEB, the Queen of Keswick. Love you, Olivia Branch. Vanessa Parkhill says Crutchfield. I know you've got your hands full over there, Judah. I'll look at Crutchfield myself here. Let's look at Crutchfield. Crutchfield myself here. Let's look at Crutchfield. Crutchfield. Gosh, Crutchfield's got a Wikipedia Bill Crutchfield Jr.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Unbelievable 1974 makes Crutchfield having to do some quick math here 50 years old 50 on Crutchfield 1969 until 2020 for Interstate. Stephanie, thank you for that. Beck Cohen. Maria Marshall Barnes. Beck Cohen. I'll do the Google on Beck Cohen. I know you've got your hands full. I already found that one 1955 1955 for betco that's unbelievable a heating cooling plumbing a duct sealing and generator company has transpired and
Starting point is 00:48:34 sustained and maintained since 1955 we have to do this is just unbelievable charlottesville glass and mirror maria marshall barnes they've got a big sticker on their window char Charlottesville Glass and Mirror, Maria Marshall Barnes. They've got a big sticker on their window. Charlottesville Glass and Mirror? Yeah. How about that one? I think it's 70 years. Oh my gosh, Charlottesville Glass and Mirror, established in 1954.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm on the website. 1954, they're on the list. 70 years. That is crazy, that's 70 years. That is crazy. That's 70 years. Listen to this. Charlottesville Glass and Mirror, established in 1954 by John Corley. C-O-R-L-E.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I'm sorry if I'm butchering your last name, sir. I think it's Corley. Charlottesville Glass and Mirror was the first glass company in Charlottesville. Mr. Corley opened his business bank. This is incredible. Listen to this. Oh, my God. I'm reading from the website.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Are you ready for this? Charlottesville Glass and Mirror was established in 1954 by John Corley. Charlottesville Glass and Mirror was the first glass company in Charlottesville. Mr. Corley opened his business bank account with a deposit of $2. His collateral was strong moral values and the ethic of hard work. The original shop on Vinegar Hill was quickly outgrowing. Mr. Corley built a new shop on Meade Avenue, just east of Jack and Jill, where Blue Ridge Graphics is currently located. In 1958, the Army Reserve Building became available. John Curley saw this
Starting point is 00:50:07 as a great opportunity for relocation and decided to move the company to its present spot at 1428 East High Street. It's unbelievable. And listen to this. In 2000, Dwight Curley purchased a company from his father, continuing the family tradition, serving the commercial and residential class needs of Charlottesville. Dwight expanded the business in 2008 by opening another store in Ruckersville, a small community just north of Charlottesville. Six years later, in the spring of 2014, the Ruckersville location became the commercial fabrication shop. Oh my gosh! With a bright future on the horizon, the third generation of Charlottesville Glass and Mirror is poised to continue and improve the strong moral values and ethic of hard work started by John.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Dwight has worked to instill the values and ethics taught to him by his father and pass them on to the next generation. I love that. I love that. Maria Marshall Barnes, Cosner Brothers, 1957 Judah. Cosner Brothers Body Shop.
Starting point is 00:51:21 The whole East High Street corridor. Cosner Brothers, Jack and Jill's, Charlottesville Glass and Mirror. You Google Blue Ridge Graphics. Scott Harris says Timberlake's Pharmacy. Absolutely, Scott. We mentioned that earlier in the program. Timberlake Drugstore
Starting point is 00:51:38 founded in 1890. Let me know what Blue Ridge Graphics is, J-Dubs. Unbelievable. Neil Williamson. I love Neil's jokes. Funeral homes. People are dying to work with you.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's a dad joke. Dying to see you. As a dad, I now very much appreciate dad jokes. Melissa Peterson-Carter. I don't think you've commented on the show. Have you ever, Melissa Peterson-Carter? If so, I apologize. I'm going to send you a friend request.
Starting point is 00:52:14 She said, better living building supply, fellas. 1893. Wow. That's amazing. So that's 131 years. Quick math. For Melissa Peterson-C that's 131 years. Quick math. For Melissa Peterson Carter's Better Living Building Supply.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Thank you, ma'am. Thank you very much for that suggestion. Was that 1893? 1893. Unbelievable. Love the area. Absolutely love it. Blue Ridge Graphics, 1979. 1979 for Blue Ridge Graphics. So that means
Starting point is 00:52:49 quick math. Blue Ridge Graphics, 20, 44, 45 years for Blue Ridge Graphics. Putting some of the best t-shirts and graphics and merch and memorabilia out there. That's a second generation that's running it. Unbelievable. I love this stuff, guys. How many do we have on that list? I'm putting it down on paper. What's that? I'm putting it down on the computer now. I'm trying to organize them by name. He says it's not a business, but Christ Episcopal Church was founded in 1820. I think you put Christ Episcopal Church on there.
Starting point is 00:53:35 1820. How about First Baptist Church on Park Street? Let's see First Baptist. First Baptist Church. Man, what an iconic spot for First Baptist. History. It's got a history page. That's a good sign. 19.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Oh, my goodness gracious. I'm just going to say something else, but I'm talking about a church here. On Tuesday, August 16th of 1831, a delegation of 12 members of Pretty Creek Baptist Church went to Charlottesville and began to preach. They preached Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, and then baptized 18 converts on Wednesday evening in the Rivanna River. On Tuesday morning, August 18th, a new church was organized as Charlottesville Baptist Church with 31 members,
Starting point is 00:54:38 12 male and 19 female. Originally, the church met in the Charlottesville Courthouse, and at the turn of the last century, we became known as First Baptist Church with a new building. 1831 for First Baptist Church. Unbelievable. Praise. Rob Neal, trust this man and respect his commentary. I've been fortunate to work for multiple local family businesses that exceed 50 years at this point and been on boards for a lot of them. Seeing the acute impact for local families
Starting point is 00:55:22 and those they employ in community fabric these have woven for Charlottesville is such a part of what makes this place special. Interesting to see how many current startups continue this trend with the more transient and second home community we are becoming with remote work. Great comment. Barrett Early Learning Center, Judah, 1935 from Nora Gaffney. Nora Gaffney, Barrett Early Learning Center, Judah, 1935 from Nora Gaffney. Nora Gaffney, Barrett Early Learning Center, 1935. Unbelievable. We should also turn this into, as you compile the list, include into it a piece of video content like we've been doing
Starting point is 00:56:03 for YouTube publication, if you could please sir Kevin Higgins Crescent Inn Zion's Crossroads see if you can find Crescent Inn Zion's Crossroads J-dubs and Vanessa Parkhill says Grace Episcopal and Keswick churches will take this list way back to time the Virginian, yes ma'am, Olivia Branch we highlighted that one, that's a great one they're 101 years old
Starting point is 00:56:35 what was the one for Grace Episcopal? Crescent Inn, I know you've got your hands full I will do that Google right there Crescent Inn and Zion's Crossroads. I'll take care of that Google. Dude, my phone is blowing up. Crescent Inn. I hope they have an about page. Troy, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:57:04 They're hyping their burgers. No, they don't have an about page. That's a bummer. Oh, the website is under construction. That's a frustrating one. This is what we'll do. We'll spend some time. You got Cosner Brothers on there?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Crescent Inn Restaurant? Yeah. Only restaurant between Charlottesville and Richmond for many years. Opened in 1956. 1956. And you have Barrett Early Learning Center from Nora Gaffney. It's 1835, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:45 1835 for Barrett? Oh, it's 1835. Oh, okay. What did I say it as? I wrote down 1935. Okay, 1835. She said Jerry Barrett, 1835. Thank you, Nora Gaffney. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:57 We're going to take the Ronald Reagan approach, trust but verify with these as well, please, sir. And the beautiful thing about this is the ones that are being suggested in this crowdsource. This is very unique crowdsourcing here. Done in a live video and podcast through the comment sections of six or seven different social media platforms. Grace Episcopal Church. The original was constructed in 1745. I think that's the earliest date we've got so far. Stephanie? The second building.
Starting point is 00:58:28 1745? The second building was built between 1846 and 1854 and consecrated in 1855. 40 years later, the church burned. The present church was rebuilt and consecrated in 1896. I don't know which of those dates we'd put up. The first one. 100%. 100% the first one. Do we include the churches in the list? Maybe we make a separate
Starting point is 00:58:56 list for every different type of business out there. I mean, I think I haven't even gotten all these down now. No, I know. I think this has value that we're providing the community. We also have to be mindful of time spent on the clock over here. Just throwing that out there. You've got to be mindful of time spent on the clock. Why don't we put together a fantastic list of all these, combining the churches, and then see where it goes from there,
Starting point is 00:59:26 because I think the community will appreciate this. This is in some ways like documenting the trail, papering the digital trail. Wow, I did not anticipate the show going in this direction. Love you guys. Just got an email from Yaz Washington about the 2025 election. Haven't heard that name in a while, right? Oh, Melissa Carter just sent an email to me. She says, the Blue Ridge Swim Club, 1913 for the Blue Ridge Swim Club.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Thank you for that email, Melissa Carter. Man, I'm getting comments and text messages. We've hit something positive here. Say 1913? Yeah, 1913 for the Blue Ridge Swim Club. And remember, we've got to trust but verify these. I'm sure what's going to happen. Riverview Cemetery, Philip Dow in Scottsville,
Starting point is 01:00:37 says you need to look into Riverview Cemetery. Why don't we put together this? I think you have at least 30 of these, don't you? Oh, yeah, definitely. St. Ann's Belfield Academy. Stab. Vanessa Parkell says you need to look into that one. I think Tommy Brannick,
Starting point is 01:00:56 was he part of the first graduating class of St. Ann's Belfield? I believe he was. Tommy Brannick. Let's see, Tom... I'm looking at St. Anne's Bale film. In 1975... Oh, St. Anne's and a different school were...
Starting point is 01:01:21 There's a pretty significant history of St. Anne's that merged with another school. All right, I've got to go generate some revenue here, do some meetings. Oh my goodness. I did not anticipate the show going in this direction.
Starting point is 01:01:39 We've been on air now for 70 straight minutes. We've got to do some work here. All right, why don't we close with this? We'll do our best today and tomorrow, maybe today, putting this list together, and we can maybe spotlight it tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Publish it on ilovecevil.com, and let's see if we can do a corresponding YouTube highlight reel, highlight clip. What are we going to call those things? Highlight show. That one we going to call those things? Highlight show. That one's going to be a while. All right. And then that'll get something in the digital paper trail for the community to enjoy.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And I bet that turns into some legacy media coverage. Okay. That is the Thursday edition of the show. We hope you enjoyed it. Just literally impromptu, on the fly show, unplanned content. We adapted to you guys. Judah Wickower, yours truly, Jerry Miller,
Starting point is 01:02:41 thank you kindly for your insight. You guys made... This is exactly what we want with the show. You, the viewer and listener, made the show today. We just want to be the water cooler of the conversation. You guys made the show today. You guys are the absolute best. Tomorrow, 10.15
Starting point is 01:02:56 a.m. with Neil Williamson on Real Talk and 12.30 with the I Love Seville show to close it down. So long, everybody. Thank you.

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