The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Elk Hill School Buys 321 Hillsdale Dr For $3.4M; City Of CVille Buys 2000 Holiday Dr For $6.2M

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on the program. A pleasure to connect with you guys through the water cooler of content and conversation. This show airs on 27 unique social media and podcasting platforms. And we ask the viewers and listeners of each platform to offer us your thoughts and your perspective of what's going on around Charlottesville. We want to be the water cooler of conversation. We don't want to break the news. We want to offer our commentary on what's going on. We don't want to to be the originators of what we're discussing. We just want to have it all collide here on the show. I want to compare and contrast on today's show, two purchases that have been made within roughly six months of each other, January, February, March, April, May. Yeah, six months of each other. 2000 holiday drive and 321 Hillsdale Drive. 2000 holiday drive was purchased by the city of Charlottesville for 6.2 million in November of 2025. 321 Hillsdale Drive was purchased for 3.4 million in May of this year, just a few days ago, that transaction closed. Let's compare and contrast the two deals.

Let's compare and contrast the value and the upside. Who won, who lost, if you may. A very competitive person. Yours truly. We'll talk about that on the show today. I'm going to do something different. We have headlines on screen, and I'm going to put Judah Wickhauer in on a two-shot. Ask him about one of the headlines.

As we were going live, another idea came to me, and maybe we replaced the headline that's on-screen services or housing, colon, what do the homeless really need in our area? And what we could potentially replace that headline with is this, Judah. If you want to punch this out somewhere where we can copy and paste it easily replace. If not gentrification, if it's not gentrification, what's the word to describe what's happening in Fifell? That might be long. How about this?

If not gentrification, comma, what's out? actually happening in Fifeville or how would you describe what's happening in Fifeville question mark i want to weave you in on a two shot i'll ask you respect your opinion tremendously what your idea was with the services or housing what do homeless really need locally i think it's a great headline and a great talking point we cover it a lot there was some commentary shared with us we'll keep it off record uh with local police on what's happening in

the Rivana River Free Bridge Zero East High Street encampment. Do you want to put it in a nutshell, what we'll share with us from local police? Yeah, I'm just kind of putting a lot of things together. There's an article right now on CBS 19 about HUD, and that's the

U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and how they've recently made announcement that they're that they're shifting four billion of funding away from a housing first model and they're going to prioritize services focused on

treatment and recovery and as Jerry mentioned there was a I was made aware of I would choose your words carefully here yeah I was made aware of a walk through of the encampment near the

near the Ravana River and the fact that a lot of these people are addicts and are in need of services. And if you just try to put them in housing, there's no, how do you get them? We want them in a good place. We don't want them to be homeless or houseless. We also don't want them to be addicts. We want them to be productive members of society who can rejoin us all. and just giving them a place to live is not solving that problem.

And for all we know, they're going to be right back out on the street, either looking for drugs or just because the roof over their head doesn't work for them because of their addictions or whatever. You should offer, you know, you shared it with me. Offer the color of the play-by-play. Okay. I would, again, and you're a professional, I trust your judgment. I would choose your words very carefully here.

So, just came from a, yeah, I'm going to paraphrase some of this. I'm going to make sure I don't. Yeah, I would really much do that. Just came from a community walk amongst the tents along Riverside Trail. Best estimate is 49 tents, 57 people. One guy burned his camp down while cooking heroin on a spoon. I don't know if that was the same guy that we reported. reported on a week or two ago who had his tent burned down.

So this could be a separate incident or the same one. The walk began with an airful from River Road business owners. And he talks about how the fact that the Charlottles of government wants to redistribute the campers, some into an open field just east of the kayak place and some in the woods behind Holiday Drive and some other spot as well that the person that sending this couldn't remember.

So there's interesting pieces of news here that we're going to pass along to you, the viewer and listener here. A recent fire that calls the torching and the burning of a tent and then some. We've been told by trusted and reliable people,

which we will not name, was a direct cause and effect of cooking heroin on a spoon in the Free Bridge, Rivana River, and Camden. Second piece of fresh information, then you jump back in. I'm just putting the Cliff Notes version out there,

is the city is now actively looking to reposition relocate the free bridge encampment from under a bridge because of obvious reasons, which I've highlighted on the show, if a fire were to happen under the bridge, tens of thousands of people every day use that bridge to get to in and out of Charlottesville. So they're going to move them from the bridge and relocate them to what, east of the Rivana River Company.

Would that be zero east high street? the dirt they purchased from Wendell Wood. Probably. Probably zero east high street. And the woods behind Holiday Drive. As well as a third spot that we're aware of the location of. So that's fresh news for the viewers and listeners. Go ahead.

And then I'm going to ask if a headline should be replaced that's on screen with a, what do we call what's happening in FIFIL if it's not gentrification. A lot of people have pushed back and said, gentrification is not the right term to use what's happening in the Fifeville neighborhood. There's another apartment tower that's being percolated right now. This one by local developer Woodard properties, Keith and Anthony Woodard, who are good stewards. They come up on the show a lot. The reason they come up on the show a lot, because they do a lot of stuff.

They're building stuff. They're builders. They develop. They're going to come up on the show a lot. I see Anthony often. So almost a couple days ago. They come up on the show. they will come up a love show a lot. If it's not

justification, what's happening in Fytheville? Continue with the first topic, add some color from our anonymous source. So here's the final little bit which states that most of the people, he's talking about the houseless people in the encampment, most of them

have been housed. I think he means while they were in their current position and he says that they've been kicked out. They all have criminal records and one of them was recently in the UVA hospital where he groped a nurse. So again, like I said, I'm putting a lot of these things together, and I'm asking,

obviously we're not going to have the housing available at Holiday Drive for years. My question is, how are we getting these people services? Region 10, drug programs. Like, if they don't want to be a part of those, is there anything we can do these people? Do we do for these people? Do we just create housing at Holiday Drive

and offer it without any conditions? Obviously that's part of what the problem is for a lot of these people, with finding a place with Salvation Army because there are conditions. But at what

point do we say, look, you're not seeking help. We can't support you, indefinitely. What do you think, viewers and listeners? Is it the city's responsibility to provide a city-owned land to men and women that refuse to seek drug and alcohol counseling and continue to be either a nuisance or a criminal, basically a criminal in our community? And building on that, And we're getting this information, folks, from as close as you could possibly get. And building on that, while we're waiting for Holiday Drive, how do we get these people into the treatment that they need?

And if we do manage to do that, do we end up with far fewer people who end up needing help at Holiday Drive once it is finally available? Like, should we not be acting now to help these people? Obviously, we can't give them housing at Holiday Drive because it's not. not ready. But if we can get them, if we can get them help, if we can get them services, if we can get them to a point where they no longer need housing because they can get a job, then is that not far better than waiting and just, you know, shifting them around Charlottesville and hoping that, you know, they don't, something horrible doesn't happen. I mean, they're basically, the city of Charlottesville is basically playing homeless monopoly here. Yeah. Instead of boardwalk

and Park Street and passing go. You have Zero East High Street. You have an area under a bridge, and you have the woods behind Holiday Drive. And unfortunately, the most concerning of all of them is the Zero East High Street location, which is not only adjacent to a commercial corridor in the heartbeat, right in the middle of a commercial corridor, a ton of businesses around High Street, but it's literally by neighborhoods by homes where people live, a ton of them. That is where a ton of people live, Judah, that area. So they're playing homeless monopoly, the city of Charlottesville. And if you're just

tuning into the program, some fresh information to you on what's going on there. A fire recently started at the Rivana River Freebridge Encampment. We are told by sources who would know, cooking heroin on a spoon. We're also told, by people who would know, the city is actively relocating or trying to reposition the homeless from under the bridge, and they're targeting the woods behind Holiday Drive, Zero East High Street, and I guess moving on slightly from under the bridge, right? Yes. And I'm going to ask you, the viewer and listener, should this have been a headline on screen, or maybe this is one of those times, because you and I can make the calls on the fly,

should this have been a better headline, and might as well put it on screen, the FIFIL handline. Can you put that as lower third? What is the headline you went with with the character count that would fit our lower third in our headline rundown?

If not gentrification, what is happening in FIFIL? Question mark? Yeah. Fantastic. Put that on screen. I'll ask you that question. A lot of people have pushed back on me that gentrification is not the right description

of what's happening in FIFIL. And it's a perfect sense. segue into the next storyline, Woodard Properties. Give them the who, what, when, where, why. I believe this from Sean Tubbs. It's right in front of you. Yeah. We've got another proposal from Woodard Properties. Again, on Cherry Avenue, this time, it's 801 Cherry Avenue, where the old IGA was 501 Cherry Avenue. they are going to stick to, they're going to stick to zoning code

so they're not asking for special exceptions. They're proposing a five-story mixed-use building with 83 units. So you've got the mark coming to Fifeville, 770 bedrooms, 180 units, directly behind the First Baptist Church on West Main Street. Controversial is an understatement.

This done by national developer landmark properties, the same developer that developed the standard on West Main Street where Potbelly Sandwich Shop is, got the building the least residentially commercial that could care less because the real money was in the residential student UVA apartments, the big money there. They went through a couple of rent cycles and then they just sold in a wrapped up deal where they wrapped up some additional students. Towers elsewhere outside of Charlottesville City, and they sold in a billion-plus exit to a group led by Morgan Stanley. The one that's happening, the conversation that's happening now is with Woodard Properties on Cherry Avenue. So another apartment tower coming to Fifell. If that's not gentrification, what is it?

Yeah, that was my question. What's the word that is better used to describe it? Gentrification really just refers to urban neighborhoods transforming as well. your residents move in. See, that's why I thought using gentrification was the right term. Yeah, I would think so. What I utilize. But for James Watson watching the program, William McChesney, Travis Hackworth,

Philip Dowell, Georgia Gilmer, Michael Guthrie, Jeremy Rowe, Olivia Branch, Curtis Shaver, watching the program, handsome Hank Martin. If you're watching the show, what's a better use? I don't understand a better adjective than gentrification to describe what's happening in Fifeville. Do we just chalk it up to change? Like, is it just the expectation? I mean, what is a word that I can use to better describe of what's happening?

Displacement. Is it displacement? Displacement is what happens when property taxes skyrocket and long-time, lower-income residents have to sell or move. But that phenomenon is deeply intertwined with gentrification, blah, blah, blah. So, I mean, I think we're still fairly correct using gentrification. I thought gentrification was a good word to use. I was surprised, though, with the feedback I received from stakeholders of many different backgrounds.

Well, if they didn't give you an alternative, then... I think the stakeholders, the stakeholders that offered me the feedback that I shouldn't use the word gentrification to describe what's happening in Fifeville, one stakeholder said, Jerry, it was an Irish. neighborhood before it was a black neighborhood. And it's already a white, yuppie, young professional neighborhood. And to describe it as a black neighborhood today is not a good description of what's actually happening in Fifeville. I mean, I think gentrification still fits. I thought gentrification fit.

Even if it's been gentrified multiple times, there's also a term super gentrification, which happens when, when the... I think, go ahead. I'm sorry? Well, when one set of people has gentrified another set out, And then they themselves get gentrified out by even more affluent people, the ultra, ultra wealthy. I think why the stakeholders are pushing back on me using the word gentrification is because of the negative connotations associated with the word. And all the stakeholders that push back on me describing the mark and what it was going to do to Fifeville in the next two to four years as as gentrification, all those stakeholders had one thing in common.

You know what that thing was? They were extremely pro-housing. They were yimbies. Yes, in my backyard. Very pro-new housing rooftops locally. And those people are saying that this is not a case of gentrification. Right. Because I would think that the pro-housing crowd doesn't want someone of, you know,

we have a significant reach. Let's cut to the chase. Significant reach, viewership and listenership, setting the narrative or dictating the pace in tempo with the narrative that gentrification is what's happening. These same folks also follow what's happening in the development pipeline and probably a lot of them realized that there were other projects coming as well. Like wooded properties, wooded properties is going to get tremendous flacken resistance for this five-story project on Cherry Avenue that Sean Tubbs is reporting about. But it's not wooded properties and I hope Anthony hears this and Keith hears this. I really do hope you hear this. It's not

Woodard that's doing anything wrong. They're doing what the zoning allows. They're doing what the government encourages, and they're doing it because the community does need more housing. The developer is not the devil. That's exactly what makes the mark development. So, what's the word I'm looking for? Frustrating, the outcry around it,

because what did you want? You changed the zoning code. You asked to build more housing. and now people are building the housing and you're crying. I'm sorry, but yeah, like you said, the developer is not the one who is... The devil. They're not the devil.

They're also not in charge of what happens to surrounding neighborhoods. And then on that... If they buy land and the city approves a building, which everybody seems to want, and then you say, oh, but it's going to change the neighborhood. Well, you know what? even if they don't build that, the neighborhoods are changing. Prices are going up.

People are getting priced out. And it's not because some developer is building, you know, luxury student housing. Deep Throats got comments. I'm going to get to Deep Throats comments in a matter of moment. Viewers and listeners, put your comments in the feed. I'm going to push back on you then. Okay. Earlier this week in a conversation we had about property owners and landlords of

the commercial variety. You compared Alan Cajin, who owns the Tonic Restaurant, Wild Wing Cafe, the Wild Wing parking lot, Commonwealth Sky Bar, Alan Cajin, the bi-coastal attorney, who's one of the most significant commercial property owners in the Charlottesville City. Also is the co-owner of the Ix Park with Ludwig Cootner. He owns much of Midtown, Alan Cajin. Alan Cajin owns the Purple building, the main street market where Orzo is, most notably. Yeah. He owns the real estate that's public fish and oyster. He owns the real estate that's Oak Heart Social, Alan Kajin.

He owns where Shananagan's Toy Store is and the financial advisor next to shenanigans, the bridal salon behind it. He owns the Mickey building over here, Alan Kajin. Okay. This guy owns some of the most. He owns Rapture Restaurant, not the business, but the real estate that Rapture restaurant in. Alan Kajin, first off, watches and listens to the show. His preferred viewing platform is YouTube.

And earlier this week, you compared Alan Kajin to John Dewberry. And you said, isn't Alan Kajin basically John Dewberry? And I quickly snapped back that, you and said, that was not a fair comparison. Because John Dewberry does not take care of his property. Alan Kajin does. I said, Alan Kajin does have vacancies. Commonwealth Sky Bar is a good example. Tonic restaurants, a good example.

And I said those vacancies may be attributed to the fact that they're overpriced right now. The asking for the monthly rent is too much money. The market is suggesting that. But I said he's not John Dewberry because he's actually committed to the betterment of Charlottesville. And I appreciate that. Guess who I had a 30-minute conversation with yesterday on the phone. Alan Kajin? Because of your John Dewberry comparison.

I picked up the phone, called me, not sure where Alan Kajin was. He called me, I'm looking at my phone log here. I missed a call from him on Tuesday. I called him back yesterday morning, and then we finally touched base yesterday evening at about 545 and spoke for 32 minutes. and bristled as he should have with your John Dewberry comparison. It's all right.

And I immediately said on the show, Alan, I stood up and had your back and said it was an unfair comparison. He said, yes, you did. And he says it's not a fair comparison to say that I'm John Dewberry. John Dewberry is under serious shit right now and serious fire in Atlanta for having a piece of property in Atlanta in almost in a similar condition to the skeleton on the downtown mall. where local government is fed up.

He's like, my properties don't look like that. And Commonwealth Skybar, I pointed out, using to my argument why he's not John Dewberry, he's spending thousands of dollars building a patio outside's Commonwealth Skybar to make it even more leasable, have more potential. So just for the record,

a lot of heavy hitters are watching and listening to the show, even if they're not in Charlottesville at the time, they're watching and listening to the show. His preferred platform is YouTube. I also want, Alan, when you do hear this, when you do watch and listen to this, I want you to also hear this. I very much enjoyed our 30-minute conversation together. You and I both had a good laugh or two on a number of different topics. Most of that conversation is 95% of that confirmation, sir, will remain confidential, as it should.

You can count on me for that. And I look forward to working with you on a number of different projects. I hope you hear that. I'm very good at what I do. okay and i push back on you because i'm also a landlord okay and someone like mr kajin once top dollar for his property why because he's put so much money time effort the opportunity cost of effort time and money into owning these trophy properties i mean i remember when alan kajin had the surface lot across from mya restaurant and continental divide the parking lot that was right next to

wow wing cafe and remember when when it was just a dust bowl, potholes, gravel, and dirt, and when we would not have rain for weeks at an end, like similar conditions to what we've had of late here, the dust got to be so bad that the restaurant's front of the program, Peter Castellione, who's a co-owner of Maya restaurant,

actually he's probably the only owner now. His co-founder, Christian Kelly, is no longer a part of Maya restaurant. Christian is now the owner at Duner's Restaurant where he's also the executive chef. Christian's son, Will Kelly, is a hell of a squash player, by the way. Fabulous wife, Christian Jen Kelly, a part of Dunors as well. They still own with Peter and another gentleman, the real estate over there.

Okay? But I remember at the time when that parking lot, when we wouldn't get rain, the dust was so bad that West Main Street, as a collective, was complaining to Allen about how dusty this was and how it was impacting our customers and folks that ate alfresco or ate on outside patios and the impact it was having on HVAC units because the dust was getting into filters and just causing damage to units that were on roofs or outside.

And that parking lot, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, is now paved. It's not dirt anymore. You know, it used to be a parking lot attendant, a human in a hut that would be the gatekeeper for in-and-out access of that parking lot and who can park. Now it's automated.

I mean, just take that parking lot, lot, how much money he's invested to the parking lot alone. Consider the carrying costs, ladies and gentlemen, of keeping vacancies like Commonwealth Skybar and Wild Wing Cafe. Skybar and Wild Wing Cafe have been vacant for years. Wildwing Cafe has been vacant since the start of the pandemic. I think Wild Wing Cafe, viewers and listeners, closed in April of 2020. The pandemic was in March of 2020. Remember the NCAA tournament, basketball tournament, March Madness was canceled.

And then the first restaurant to close in Charlottesville City because of COVID was Wild Wing Cafe, followed very closely by the downtown grill. At the time managed by Robert Sarver, fantastic guy, Robert Sarver. A restaurant group, I think, out of Lynchburg owned the Downtown Grill. Was it the Stephen Perry Restaurant Group? And they closed second. Wild Wing Cafe and Downtown Grill had one thing in. common. They had massive restaurants from a square footage standpoint. And because lease rates are

determined by square foot used, the first restaurants to close were the big-ass ones like Wild Wing Cafe and Downtown Grill because they had to go extended periods of time without in-house dining, in-person dining. So they're like, to hell with this. So I push back on you with the characterization that he is John Dewberry, that's not fair to him. I don't think I ever said he was John Dewberry. I saw a parallel and I mentioned it, and I appreciate you correcting me, and I apologize to Alan Kajin.

I was not trying to disparage his name. Well, and I'm sure, I don't want to speak for him, but I'm sure he accepts the apology. He bristled and was offended by it. Okay, I apologize. And it was a 30-minute of my conversation, post work hours, which I very much enjoyed with him. He's going to watch and listen to this,

so I hope you hear that I'm saying that out. This comment has come in, okay? If it's not gentrification, what is it? This is from Deep Throat. Deep Throat's number one in the family, okay? Number one for a reason. And he says to all the viewers and listeners that are pushing back on what I'm saying,

to the folks that work over at Weldon Cooper that push back on what I'm saying, to the folks that live in Fifeville that are pushing back on what I'm saying, to James that's pushing back on what I'm saying, what's happening in Fifeville, these are deep throats words, is 100% gentrification. He says, citywide residential assessed value per square foot is 370, the median. This is so good. This is why he's number one in the family. He says, Charlottesville, citywide, the residential assessed value per square foot is $370.

That's the median. For Fifeville, it's 305. West Main, which is what Fifeville is trending towards, is $3.95, the median assessed value per square foot. So that's a great metric to use. Citywide, residential assessed value per square foot, the median is $370. Fifell, it's $305, so $65 below the median. West Maine, Alan Kajeen owns much of West Main. ladies and gentlemen.

The parking lot, the Wild Wing Cafe, O'Card Social, public fish and oyster, shenanigans, the finance firm next to shenanigans, the bridal salon behind shenanigans, the main

street market, the purple building, is Al Morrow baking company there? Orzo Kitchen is there? This guy owns much of West Main Street. He says that is 395, the means. median price per square foot. But is that mostly commercial?

No, he said literally use the word residential. He said citywide residential. Oh, you're asking me if West Main is mostly commercial. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying is there a difference in that because of that? No question that the price per square for commercial is going to be different than the price per square foot, the assessed value for residential. No question.

The point he's making is that FIFIL metric, I, Can you give us a comp? Can you find this data point deep throat of what that metric was, say, prior to COVID? If it's 305 now in FIFIL, what was it prior to the pandemic? Yeah. Has it been... I'm going to stand by the use of my word gentrification. And then I'm going to push back on the people that are pushing on me saying it's not

gentrification because it was an Irish neighborhood before it was a black neighborhood. And now it's a white yuppie neighborhood mixed with a black neighborhood. And I'm going to push back. and say all these folks were overwhelmingly pro-housing, and they know that if an influential platform like the I Love Seville Show that has more reach viewership and listenership than any brand in the region except for the University of Virginia uses the word gentrification and gentrification and gentrification over and over again, that that narrative will become the talking points of the community, and that will create friction headwinds for housing in the neighborhood.

And it's a perfect segue into what Woodard's doing now. And I'm going to say it again, if you want to make some money and you want to return on investment, and I can guarantee you you will be almost late to the party if you go with this strategy. I think there's still scraps where you can make a boatload of money, though. There's still scraps there. If you want to make some money and you have some dry powder or you can pull a syndicate together, some kind of investor group together, you go and start buying the making offers, on houses in Fifeville, and you try to make offers on houses in Fifeville that are in close

proximity to each other where you can eventually assemble or potentially assemble some lots. That's lots that are next to each other. And if you want the best strategy possible, you go to the homes that are in the worst shape possible. You do not go to the homes that have already been gutted, knocked down, or massively remodeled and renovated. Go to the dingyest, once and see if you could put three or four of those together and then you'll make a lot you can make a lot of money doing this ladies and gentlemen now that's a natural segue into the the purchase that the i love seville show broke yesterday we got a we got a tip from you know someone in the community that's sophisticated in nuance i'm not going to utilize this person's name. I believe this person is watching the program right now. This person is as connected as

anyone. And this person suggested, hey, this would be really good for your I Love Seville subscribers. I love what you're doing with your $8 a month content, Jerry. It's absolutely fantastic. You're making the community smarter by publishing this content. Take a look at 321 Hillsdale Drive. And at 321 Hillsdale Drive, They just said, take a look at it. I'm like, all right. I know a tip. I've been doing this for news and media since 2002.

Before my third year at the University of Virginia, I got a part-time job at the Daily Progress working for Jerry Rackleff. I've known Jerry Rackleff legitimately for 24 years. Now we're partners together with Jerry Rackleff.com. Love working alongside him. my first real boss professionally was Jerry Rackleff. 24 years I've known the man.

So when someone that's connected to tell someone who's been in an industry for 24 years, hey, take a look at 321 Hillsdale Drive, I'm going to do it. I go look at the GIS at 321 Hillsdale Drive, and I'm like, oh, this piece of property sold on May 29th. Write these things down. I'll write them down with you here.

Viewers and listeners, write this stuff down with me, okay? we're going to compare and contrast two real estate transactions that traded in Charlottesville City within the last six months. I want you to create two columns. The column on the left should be headline with 321 Hillsdale Drive. The column on the right should be headline with 2000 Holiday Drive. Okay. Are you ready, Judah? 321 Hillsdale Drive, $3,400,000, $400,000, $2,000 holiday drive. In fact, I have the GIS open for both. $6.2,000, $600,000 the sale price for $2,000 holiday drive.

Boy, oh, boy, good golly, Miss Molly. That's a difference of $2.8 million. is Judah. 321 Hillsdale Drive sold for 3.4 million and 2000, 2000 Holiday Drive sold for 6.2 million, ladies and gentlemen, and they sold not even six months apart, boys and girls. Not even six months apart, these closings happen. A delta of 2.8 million. That's a lot of money. 2,800,000. Okay. Let's first figure out if there are apples to apples comparisons. Okay. Are you with me, Judah? Are you with me? All right. All right. Let's talk. square feet first. Why don't we go square feet? How about that, Judah? The square feet, ladies and

gentlemen, for Holiday Drive is 27,000 square feet. So on the Holiday Drive, Colin, put 27,000 square feet. In the 321 Hillsdale Drive, I want you to put, from a square footage standpoint, 26,664, 26,664 SQF. Whoa, whoa. Oh, God. Goodness gracious. Good golly, Miss Molly. 27,000 square feet for 2000 Holiday Drive. 26,664 square feet for 321 Hillsdale Drive. That looks pretty similar to me. Good golly, Miss Molly.

The square footage is at is the same. Okay. All right, let's take it a step further. Oh my gosh, I think we might be on to something here when we're comparing and contrasting two pieces of property to each other. Okay. Deep Throat also offered some comparison, as well. Okay, 27,000 square feet with Holiday Drive. 4,000 of that square feet is in a basement. Last I checked, square foot that was underground in a basement is not as valuable as square foot that is above ground.

So of that 27,000 square feet, 4,000 is in a basement at 2,000 Holiday Drive. Well, let's compare and contrast to what's that 321 Hillsdale Drive. Oh my goodness, Hillsdale Drive, what? Is not in a basement? There's no basement for that? You're telling me on the GIS that Hillsdale Drive has a first floor, second floor, and third floor, and it's all above ground? 8,88, 8,88 square feet on floors one, two, and three.

Let me times that by three. Holy crap. 8,888 per floor times three floors get you 26,664 total square feet. That means there's no basement. That means the structure potentially just on square feet on Hillsdale is more valuable. Okay? Let's keep going. Let's keep going.

Let's go acreage, okay? Now remember, the Holiday Drive parcel was a combination of two parcels. Not only did they buy 2,000 Holiday Drive, the city of Charlottesville, but they also purchased the adjacent parcel as well. That's a total with the adjacent parcel of 3.87 acres, 3.87 acres at 2000 Holiday Drive. The parcel at 321 Hillsdale Drive is 1.87 acres. So there's a delta of two acres, two acres at 2000 Holiday Drive versus, two acres more at 2000 Holiday Drive, 3.87 acres versus 1.87 acres at the other. Now, let's take a look at that acreage.

We are not really sure, ladies and gentlemen, that the Holiday Drive second parcel is actually buildable or not. Because if you know, if you remember the working group with the Haven, the Blue Ridge Area Coalition for the Homeless, Patcham, City Staff and City Council, the last working group, city staff and city council told the nonprofits to, Accs incremental building at the job site, at the potential homeless shelter. They said, Jesus, you guys are asking us for the Lamborghini

or the Rolls Royce of homeless shelters. Can you guys operate in a budget in any capacity? For Christ's sake, cut the new building attachment that you're doing to this project. So this additional acreage, this additional two acres, what's the actual value of it if it's not utilized? Do we need to have walking trails, and do we need to have like those benches tucked away in meadows next to a large oak tree so the homeless can leave the shelter

and sit on this bench and do a kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya. No, we don't need that. So this second parcel that they included, that was adjacent to the first parcel, what's the actual value of that? Okay? So when comparing 3.4 million for 321 Hillsdale Drive

to the 6.2 million for 2,000 Holiday Drive, what is the conclusion due to Wickhauer Weekend make? That the acreage doesn't really mean anything. No! That is not the conclusion we make. What is the conclusion if 2,000 holidays, Holiday Drive was purchased by the city for $6,200,000. And 321 Hillsdale Drive was purchased by a private school with brokers involved in the deal

for $3,400,000. They have the same square feet, the building. Hillsdale actually has no basement where Holiday Drive has 4,000 feet of basement space and acreage that is basically a wash. What is the conclusion we can make here? They paid too much. Who? The city.

There it is. There it is. Either 321 Hillsdale Drive was the steel of a century when compared to 2000 holiday drive as a comp, or the city of Charlestville overpaid for this piece of property by $2.8 million. Because I want to ask you a question. Is the homeless shelter best suited for 2,000 holiday drive right next to a beltway of traffic, the bypass? Or is it best suited for 321 Hillsdale Drive? I don't have that answer for you.

But I can make a legitimate and compelling argument that the city overpaid for something. And the city overpaid for something because it's not its money. the Elk Hill school was spending money that meant something. The city was spending money that it could constantly go to men and women and say, we need more of what you work really hard for. And you're going to give it to us because your house is here, your job is here, your kids go to school here, we have leverage over you.

And you can't do anything about it. In terms of the two properties, a little color from deep throat, Hillsdale Drive and zone NX10, very dense zoning. It's got a floor plate of 8,888488 square feet, and it was assessed at $6.7 million. 2,000 Holiday Drive has no driveway or road access. There is a wetland on the property. it's also zone NX10, and it's assessed when you add the two lots together at 6.8 million. So until you add the two lots together,

you didn't get nearly the assessment of what Elk Hill purchased. So either the Elk Hill School got an effing steel, or city council and city hall gave the deal of the century. to the 2000 holiday drive property owner, a piece of real estate that was vacant and for sale for how long, easily months? Was it for sale and vacant for a year plus? I should know that information. I don't.

And that right there is why you watch and listen to the I Love Seville Show. Viewers and listeners put your comments in the feed and I will relay them live on air. The first individual I go to is Judah Wickauer. And before you offer your thoughts, let's give some attention to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, ladies and gentlemen, have been proudly serving this community for 62 years. John and Andrew Vermillion are the owners and the stewards of Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company. Anything swimming pool related, including swimming pool construction, you first contact Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company. for 62 years, guys. They know a thing or two about swimming pools. And you talk sanitary supplies

and janitorial services and meala vacuums and bona wood floor product. These guys know, they know those product lines like the Pope knows holy water. John Blair, he's got comments. Conan Owen's got comments. Let's go to John first. One aspect of drug addiction, John Blair says, from a clinical perspective is this. Addiction is a response to pain trauma in a life when there aren't other alternatives. The keys to treatment are, first, you have to address the underlying pain trauma

that causes the turn to addiction to a substance which temporarily alleviates the pain trauma. Second, even if someone temporarily abstains from the substance, the first moment of real turmoil on their lives will lead them to return to the substance. So you have to have serious supports in place for them. None of this is easy nor is it cheap. people may not like that explanation but it is a reality when you meet someone who says but i've used

marijuana cocaine etc i'm not i'm not addicted the difference is usually this they don't have underlying pain trauma that they're self-medicating for the non-addicted usually have fairly healthy lives i want to add a little color to what's happening in charlesville are you guys seeing the evolution of San Francisco. San Francisco for nearly a generation was the epicenter of homelessness and all the collateral damage that was associated with it. We saw San Francisco get eviscerated by the homelessness epidemic, pandemic, crisis, whatever you want to call it. San Francisco has had a change in leadership, a change in governance, a change in how it manages its city. And San Francisco, San Francisconians, is that right? San Franciscans? San

Franciscans are fed up and frustrated. And there's now a less progressive government in place when it comes to homelessness and they've cleaned it up. And the city's done an entirely, an entire about face. An entire about face. Conan Owen is watching the program. How does FIFO get gentrified if the residents don't sell. You can blame investors for gentrification all you want, but it requires the willing participant of the black and brown homeowners to sell out their neighbors. I don't, thank you for the comment, Conan Owen.

I don't blame the developers. I don't blame the residents that are selling their homes. Right. You know who's to blame? Is anyone to blame? Yeah. You know who's to blame? Okay.

Go ahead. You and me. and the viewers and listeners of this show. Of all shapes and sizes and all wealth backgrounds, and all religious backgrounds, and all different ideologies, because we continue to vote in single-party capacity here in Charlottesville City.

We vote in single-party capacity, and we do it with our left hand, and with our right hand, and on the right side of our mouth, we complain about how expensive it is to live here. So with our left hand and on our left side of our left hand, our mouth, we vote the same way and we do it generation after generation. And on our right hand

and out of our right side of our mouth, we complain about how expensive it is to live here and how our friends and family and our actual children and our husbands and wives are getting kicked out of the community because the tax base is too high. I blame us. Mark Hunt, the co-host of the Life Unedited Show on the I Love Seville Network, is watching the show. We appreciate you, Mark Hunt. It's a 125 on a Friday. I want to remind the viewers and listeners that there is no episode of the I Love Seville show tomorrow at 1230. The I Love Seville show is off tomorrow afternoon.

Real talk at 1015 will happen. Keith Smith will be in studio. But the I Love Seville show is off tomorrow. We will be back in the saddle on Monday. Anything you want to add to this, Judah Wickhauer? No. Any headlines we've missed Judah Wickhauer? I think we got everything.

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He's pumping 50 stories per 30-day period on UV. sports 505-0 for $8 a month. Goodness gracious, the steel of a century. And what we're doing with our I Love Civo brand at $8 a month, goodness gracious, every real estate transaction published for you, I'll close the show by saying this. I genuinely and truly love living in Charlottesville and Amarro County. My wife and I, we just celebrated our nine-year anniversary, my wife and I. Our nine-year anniversary, my wife and I, was yesterday. We've been together 11 years, married nine years. My wife and I have two sons, an eight-year-old boy and a three-year-old boy.

Our two sons are the equivalent of Jack Russell Terrier puppies who have pounded jolt cola and then followed the jolt cola by funneling mountain dew. They are a thousand miles an hour and everything they do. And for my wife to stay strong and stand by us for nine years married 11 together is the definition of Darwinism,

survival of the fittest. And I love her and thank you for that. And I don't speak for her ever, but I'm confident she would say the same in this regard. We are proud to call Ivy, Virginia, our home. We own four acres in change. We have a five-bedroom home. We have four and a half bathrooms. We have a swimming pool, a safe street to play on, massive backyard that's relatively flat of grass. It is a slice of Americana, and it's the American Dream. I work in the

city in downtown Charlestville, where we run a firm that just celebrated its 18-year anniversary. on the 28th of May. We get to work alongside some of the best businesses in the community, businesses that are doing, I couldn't even put in perspective how much top-line revenue Stanley Martin is doing. I wouldn't even wager. They're a partner of the show. Stanley Martin Holmes, and the last 24 months, Stanley Martin Holmes has built 600-plus homes. They have a 45 rooftop project in the Fryspring,

neighborhood, an 80-plus rooftop project in Breezy Hill and Keswick, and what, a couple of thousand homes that are coming to Green County all in the next, what, five years? I have no idea what they're doing. We work with the Stanley Martins. We get to work with the interstates of the world. We get to come up with the tagline for Scott Wagner and who's got your back? That's one of our brainchild, brain children. Help interstate. build a brand, then watch as their family business gets purchased by an international company creating generational impacts for the family. We get to help people buy and sell things.

We get to help people lease things. We get to help people grow their wealth and change their lives. I get to sit in an office and have people come into our door and sit at our desk and tell us the good, the bad, and the ugly of what they have going on personally and professionally, for then me to offer advice strategically at a $2.95 an hour rate, and they're willing, able, and excited to pay the money because we offer value proposition, tangible and palpable, documented, historic, and proven value proposition consulting. I love what I do. I love working here.

I love raising our family here. I can't wait for the future. I'm so pumped for the future. I love what I do. I'm so bullish on the future. All that being said, I can have all those feelings while also hold this community accountable

for what I think is a number of things done incorrectly. I think we're eventually going to follow a path like San Francisco. where San Francisco had to go to a toilet, be a toilet, before folks basically said enough is enough. And we're not at that status yet. But if something doesn't change, we're heading there. We're off air tomorrow. But the flip side of it is, now you see San Fran, it's beautiful.

It's clean. You saw it in D.C. Asheville's going through the same stuff as Charlottesville. Los Angeles is going through this. Oh, yeah. I've heard some horrifying things and was recently introduced to, what's the guy's name, Platt? Yeah, the mayor.

How does house burn down? There are some of the funniest videos, some of the funniest AI videos I've seen surrounding Platt recently. If you look them up, you'll have a chuckle. That's the water cooler of content and conversation. Thank you, Holly Foster. I appreciate your kind words and your support. For Judah Wickhauer, my name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for watching our show. We'll see you Monday at 12.30 p.m.