The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Forbes Magazine Names UVA "New Ivy League;" UVA National Recognition & Accolades Continue
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On the sets.
Thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville show.
Good Tuesday afternoon to you.
We're going to ask questions of you, the viewer and listener,
that pertain to Charlottesville, Admiral County, and Central Virginia.
Questions like this.
Which superintendent, Dr. Matthew Haas or Dr. Royal Gurley,
has the most difficult job as the leader, as the superintendent of their respective school system?
I'm going to argue it's Dr. Matthew Haas.
Judah's going to make a compelling case for Dr. Gurley.
That topic on today's show.
I'm going to ask you, the viewer and listener,
which of these iconic brands, Lumpkins in Scottsville, Mel's Cafe on West Main Street,
and Jack and Jill's on High Street, has the best shot of serving customers two years from now. Jack and Jill's saw the passing of its owner,
Zenise, late last week.
Mel Walker of Mel's Cafe,
he passed a couple of weeks ago,
and Lumpkins has now closed,
at least for the time being,
as the ownership team,
not tied to the Lumpkins family,
seems to have run the restaurant and motel incorrectly.
So which of those three brands, two years from now, is most likely to be serving customers?
We'll have that conversation on today's show.
There's another restaurant for sale on the University of Virginia corner.
I'm not brokering the deal for this particular one.
I'm not brokering the deal for this particular one. I'm not representing this
client. So I have a little bit more freedom of what I can and cannot say. We don't know what
the restaurant is. We do know it has a Mediterranean theme. We'll try to figure out which the restaurant
is. It's an out-of-market broker. Why someone would use an out-of-market broker to sell a business in
Charlottesville makes no sense to me. Still, I'm going to take a look at this listing in fair and
straightforward perspective. On today's program, we want to highlight the first medical marijuana
dispensary in eastern Henrico. A couple of strings attached to this one.
Jude is going to offer that perspective.
We're going to talk unstably housed students in Charlottesville public schools.
We're at an all-time high for unstably housed students within the school system in Charlottesville.
And ladies and gentlemen, on today's program, we will highlight elder fraud, which is at maybe an all-time high right now.
So much to cover on the program, but Judah Wick, I will weave you in on a two-shot.
I found this compelling. You found this compelling.
Forbes magazine has named the University of Virginia a new Ivy League school because of its fresh look
at higher education. Forbes magazine says this, the University of Virginia is
turning out smart driven graduates craved by employers of all types. They've added 10 public universities as members to what is now a new
Ivy League. Forbes used 2022 admissions data, the most recently available, and looked at schools
where at least half of applicants supplied standardized test scores. They did not include Forbes magazine, military schools, nor did they
include scores from California. They did not include the schools from California because
California universities do not consider test scores. Although Stanford is backtracking on that,
Stanford university just announced it is reinstating the requirement for test scores.
California, is that part of the free union?
Is this a completely different country in 2024, the state of California?
My brother lives in Los Angeles.
My brother's got a pretty posh pad.
I would put it in the neighborhood of somewhere between $2.5 and $3 million.
And 8 to 12 hobos in tents adjacent to his front yard
did they come with the house they did not come with the house they do not uh convey um as uh
picture frames or mirrors or fixtures generally do in the sale of the home. They do not convey with the house.
Let's get to the topic du jour.
A new Ivy League school.
Here are the universities that made the Forbes magazine list of, air quote,
the new Ivy League.
Binghamton University, Georgia Tech, the University of Florida the University of Illinois
Urbana
University of Maryland
College Park
the Terrapins, come on, give me a break here
the University of Michigan
Michigan's a fantastic school, Ann Arbor
big ups to John Blair watching the program
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, pains me to include
the Tar Heels
on the list. The South's oldest rivalry, UNC and UVA. The academic standards at UNC, extremely
difficult, especially for out-of-state students. The University of Texas, Austin, and the University
of Wisconsin, Madison. I'm going to highlight a couple things before I pass the microphone
on to you. Our astute, our charming, our conversationalist
director and producer Judah Wickauer. UVA is now deprioritizing legacy admissions.
It is without question more difficult for an in-state student, for a legacy student, for anyone to get into the University of Virginia
right now than when I got into the University of Virginia in 2000. Certainly when my dad got
into the University of Virginia in 1968. The academic standards are extremely more rigorous.
The legacy priority is a thing of the past.
And now known commodities in the media game like Forbes are calling UVA new Ivy League, the Ivy League of today. It's no secret the OG of Ivy League, the Harvards, the Yales, the Princetons, the Cornells, the Browns. They are facing scrutiny of significant proportions
as wokeism, as political turmoil, as protests
have infiltrated these esteemed and prestigious universities
to the point of making them unrecognizable.
The turmoil that is happening at schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell,
Brown, OG Ivy League is the fodder of global media. And it leaves many applicants asking
themselves, do I want to enter a political brouhaha for four years of college where there otherwise should be a rite of passage where
I learn, I party, I meet some friends, I hook up, and then I try to figure out a job post-college.
As a result, Forbes magazine and other media outlets have said schools like Georgia Tech,
the University of Florida, University of Illinois Urbana, University of Maryland,
College Park, Michigan, UNC, Texas, University of Wisconsin, UVA,
may be the new Ivy League because you don't have that attention and scrutiny on campus and on grounds.
Have they seen UVA lately?
I was hoping you would say that. Have they seen the University of Virginia lately with its pro-Palestine pepper spraying pickle?
Was that what we called it?
Something like that.
Where do you want to go?
Another media outlet giving UVA significant attention.
This is the second recent national allocate for the University of Virginia.
Earlier this year, the U.S. News and
World Report ranked UVA the number five public school in the nation and the number five best
public school for veterans. It's a Christmas list, a good boy's Christmas list of attention
and accolades for the University of Virginia that certainly is going to drive more interest
into the school, more esteemed applicants into the school,
and is going to make the school more difficult to get into. And whether we want to admit this or not, we'll continue to gentrify and influence Charlottesville City, Albemarle County, and Central Virginia in totality
as folks get four years, perhaps the best of their life, and choose to stay in Charlottesville
to continue their professional career or otherwise move back in Charlottesville to continue their professional career or otherwise
move back to Charlottesville after working in a professional setting, bringing Scrooge McDuck
bags of gold coins with them to change the landscape of our community. Judah Wickhauer,
my friend, the show is yours. I wonder how much the school pays for these accolades. I don't think this is purchased media.
I know, I'm joking, but seriously, it almost wouldn't be surprising if there was a campaign to get named in as many big magazines as possible.
Certainly a good thing for the school, no doubt.
But like you said, it could just lead to more gentrifying,
though UVA is always going to do what UVA is going to do.
I don't know that more or less accolades are going to slow the influx of people into Charlottesville.
Deep Throat, number one in the family, has got a comment on this topic.
Deep Throat's photo on screen as you're putting lower thirds on screen.
Deep Throat, number one in the family, live from Montana,
says one thing about the University of Virginia with several other schools on this list. UVA is much less
truly public in terms of its funding and demographic profile. UVA has a $14 billion
with a B endowment. UNC's endowment is about $5 billion. Florida's endowment is $2 billion.
Then he also says Binghamton in-state tuition is less than half of UVA's. Florida is less than one-third of the University of Virginia's.
Wow.
Great points from number one in the family.
Deep throat.
Keep the ammunition coming.
The student that attends the University of Virginia, Kevin Yancey, I'll get to you in a matter of moments.
Bill McChesney, I'll get to you in a matter of moments.
The student that attends the University of Virginia, Vanessa Parkhill, I'm coming at you in a matter of moments as well. The student that attends today's school is a student that I don't in a lot of ways even recognize. I talk to my friends that are bar owners, restaurant owners on the UVA corner. I talk to friends of mine that are landlords with off-grounds housing. I got a number of buddies that own a properties off grounds around UVA,
a number of buddies that own businesses around the corner and they've said, Jerry, the student
today is completely different. It's not a student that's concerned with Benny Dodd on
the patio of Coupe de Ville's or $2 pitchers at the Biltmore or $5 steak and potatoes at Buddhist Biker Bar.
It's not a student that's as much concerned
about dollar burger night
or shooting pool at Orbit,
playing shuffleboard at Orbit,
ripping shots at Trinity,
fraternity and sorority parties on Rugby Road.
It's a student that is much more astute with geopolitical turmoil, focused on academics.
A lot of ways they've said it's a wealthier student.
You see that in the vehicle profile around grounds.
When I was at the University of Virginia from 2000 to 2004, there weren't that many of us that had cars.
And the ones that did have vehicles certainly were not driving $80,000 plus, $100,000 plus luxury automobiles.
Yeah.
You have a student that's coming to the university that is well-heeled with mommy's and daddy's money.
And that's probably an understatement. I mean, with the numbers that you read from Anonymous,
it's hardly surprising.
I mean, if some of these schools are charging less than half or a third what UVA is,
it's not really much of a surprise that the young people entering UVA have the money not just to pay the piper,
but also rent nice houses, drive nice cars. And obviously that's not going to be
every student at UVA. In-state tuition for the University of Virginia, I'm going to include
fees, room and board, books, supplies, transportation, and personal expenses.
What do you think the rough estimate is for the 2023-2024 school year? Everything
included? Everything, my friend. For one year? In-state. Everything included. Room and board,
fees, books, courses, materials, supplies, equipment, food, housing, personal expenses, everything included, in-state tuition, first year in-state student.
My guess is I'm 70,000.
In-state?
I don't know.
I don't know anything about in-state or out-of-state.
70 Gs is astronomical.
That's probably closer to your out-of-state student.
40 Gs plus for your in-state student.
Jeez Louise.
When do you ask yourself if it's worth it?
Yeah.
40 G's plus for in-state.
That number only going up.
Yeah.
Out of state.
Let's try out of state.
Probably in your neighborhood,
flirting with 60K for the out-of-state.
If you're able to afford this type of in-state
and out-of-state tuition,
you're not coming from the middle class,
the upper middle class.
You're clearly set in upper class.
And the folks that are attending these type of school,
paying these kind of rates and covering this kind of overhead,
these are the type of parents that are doing the, what do they call them?
There's a term for it.
It's called kiddie condos.
Do you know what a kiddie condo is?
That's what they've been monikered, kiddie condos.
And it doesn't just have to be a condominium.
It's probably like what my friend's
family did or my friend's dad he i believe he was a dentist and he bought a cookie cutter house in
on one of the islands near uh near savannah and my friend lived there.
I was a tenant for a little while before I moved out.
Had some other friends that paid rent to him and it was an investment.
I mean, it's a house.
His dad bought a house,
lets his son use it while he's in college
and then when he's done with it,
he can sell it for hopefully a profit.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah. It's the moms and dads that buy a piece of housing, even though UVA requires first years to live on grounds and say second, third, and fourth year, you get this house
off grounds. You get the dope room. You get to bring some of your buddies to live with you.
You have to stay here for your second, third or fourth year
and when stuff like that happens
it quickly gentrifies communities
very quickly
that's happening undoubtedly here in Charlottesville
if you're tuning into the program
Forbes magazine has called the University of Virginia
a new Ivy League school
a school that...
Even though we've kind of had a spotlight on us
with this pro-Palestine pepper-spraying pickle,
and folks have asked,
will Jim Ryan survive the new appointments
from Yunkin with the Board of Visitors?
The clock is ticking on those appointments.
I can't wait to hear the new four appointees to the board.
Virginia's UVA is flowing under the radar when it's come to these protests and geopolitical
turmoil on campus and on grounds. It certainly has not met the scrutiny or the media attention
of a Harvard, a Yale, a Princeton, and some of
these Ivy League OGs. Kevin Yancey watching the program. He said UVA has wanted that Ivy League
moniker forever. Certainly when I was there, they wanted that Ivy League moniker. Vanessa Parkhill,
Mr. Yancey's photo on screen. Vanessa Parkhill's photo on screen. Are the new Ivies any less woke
than the OG Ivies? How many of the new
Ivies are public? Maybe some classes are impacting the opinion of the old Ivies. They're all private,
right? The old Ivies. She also says, yep, I knew a guy back in 1991 whose dad bought a place in
Turtle Creek for his son to live while attending the University of Virginia. I would say the new
Ivies are less woke than the old Ivies. I would think if you're
talking wokeism and universities and colleges, you go straight to the Ivy League first.
Why is that? Why is that? Yeah. That's a great question for Deep Throat. I believe he's a Harvard
graduate, if memory serves correct. I would say it's because of the following
reason. The student profile, the type of student that's being admitted, is not necessarily the
type of student that is athletics, rah, rah, rah, rah. It's not just party, rah, rah, rah, rah.
It's a student that is more concerned with
how their choices can impact or change the world in totality.
Could that be in part?
I think today's student is also much more sophisticated with news.
Yeah, but that's fairly true across the board.
Could it be that in the Ivy League schools,
those students have the monetary background
to have the time to worry about those things over...
And whether we want to admit this or not, and this may offend some people,
when you come from that level of wealth,
there's a certain level of guilt associated with that level of wealth
that jades your perspective on life.
Or changes it at least.
It's a type of guilt where you're like,
how have I been blessed with this?
And you feel almost like you
have to do something because of it. Deep Throat Offering Perspective, he's a Harvard graduate.
He's confirmed the Ivy League schools have rich kids who can afford to act out. They also recruit
heavily based on leadership, which they define as having been a loudmouth activist in high school.
He said it made Harvard a miserable, miserable place.
I believe it. Ginny Hu, watching the program, her photo on screen said, I have not heard any
rooster sightings. Where is Rodney? He's been rooster napped. She also said Maryland, UNC,
and UVA are all extremely woke. I will give you, we're in the eye of the storm, Ginny, who you went to UVA.
The woke nature of UVA is certainly way different than what it was when we were in school there.
But compared to like a Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, it is timidly woke compared to a Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.
It's almost like that state when you're waking up and it's right before the alarm and your eyes are kind of half open.
You know the alarm's going to grow off, but you're still in this dream and you're like, maybe I can stay in this dream a little bit longer.
You're not in REM sleep.
You're coming out of REM sleep.
You're kind of half asleep.
That's what UVA is from a political wokeism standpoint.
Compare it to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton.
You've had three shots of cappuccino, done 50 jumping jacks, and you're wide awake.
Todd Rath watching the program,
the King of Cider, Todd Rath's photo on screen.
It would be seriously refreshing to see
one of these reports issue the best ROI
for education by university and major.
That's a good call.
Great stuff from Todd Raff, the businessman.
Real estate investor.
Great comment today.
Anything you want to add on this topic?
Judah B. Wickauer, jack of all trades,
jack of all wits.
I mean, sometimes I wonder
what's behind all these
accolades and
you know
obviously they're
it's a bit of click bait
the magazines putting these out
need something to
get people in
and these are
I mean especially good with
people from the schools that are mentioned.
Vanessa Parkhill says, today's UVA student is on par with those attending Yale and Harvard, right?
I would say so.
I would absolutely say so.
Next headline, Judah Wickauer.
We're going to put this on screen.
You set the stage.
I'm going to spend about 45 seconds on this one. Give the viewers and listeners the nitty-gritty on the first medical marijuana dispensary for Eastern and RICO
and why this stood out to you.
Well, as we know, we've had some issues with the governor vetoing some of the attempts to legalize marijuana in virginia and um
this company cannabis is opening a opening another another legal dispensary, medical marijuana dispensary in eastern Henrico.
They are cannabis.
This is what drew my attention.
Cannabis is the only company that is legally allowed to sell medical marijuana at dispensaries in Virginia.
And that's got to be worth
a fair amount of money for them.
Definitely.
I mean, I'm not saying
that there's a connection between this company
and Governor Youngkin.
But if there was, I mean, it's a great way to make money.
We'll get off this topic because there's some other ones I want to cover on today's edition of the talk show.
I find it extremely odd that Youngkin has not legalized it across the board, especially
with this free market business background. Perhaps he keeps it, retail marijuana, still
illegal because he wants the support of staunch conservatives, far-right conservatives. The
reality is you can find it anywhere, from anyone,
anytime,
anyplace.
There's six or seven points of sale
around downtown Charlesville alone.
Just go ahead and legalize it and tax it.
Because it's basically legal.
And you're just not getting the tax revenue from it.
This just seems like common sense to me.
Police are turning an eye to it.
Walk anywhere in this town, you smell it.
You can buy it pretty much from any brick, not any, a couple dozen brick or mortars in town.
Just get it over with.
Yeah.
Next headline, my friend.
Oh, another restaurant for sale in the UVA corner.
So I don't have this listing.
We're part of the Krobi's deal.
You've seen the sign up.
Tangerine Kitchen coming to the old Krobi's location.
We helped broker that deal.
Very excited for Tangerine Kitchen.
The announcement for what's coming is going to be the announcement of our client.
I'm not going to break the announcement of our client.
I'm not going to break the ice or release that news yet.
But there's an out-of-market business broker who's got a business for sale on the UVA corner.
It's priced at $149,000.
And he calls it in the listing a Mediterranean restaurant. It was a listing sent to me because we have clients that are looking to
go into the Virginia, into new restaurant locations. Mediterranean restaurant on the corner.
Clean, spacious. $149,000 asking. Rent $4,000 a month. Gross revenue $175,000. Established year 2022.
Does $149,000 asking price with gross revenues of $175,000,
does that make sense to you?
Within an established year of 2022.
You're saying they're trying to get out of something that may look better on paper than it actually is in reality?
Would you pay $149,000 for something
that has gross revenues of $1.75
that's been around two years
in an industry that has significant headwinds?
I mean, I don't have that kind of money.
I get you have to start somewhere
when you're making a listing.
I get you have to start somewhere with an asking price.
But sometimes when you do these type of deals,
if you start too high,
you just make it such unreasonably
fathomable for potential buyers. They just completely ignore
it altogether. You're much better starting out at the gate with an accurate price.
And oftentimes you see with this, it turns into what you don't want as a broker is you don't want
it to turn into an asset sale. You want it to have the value of the assets plus some of the value
of the brand, the upside and the opportunity. And if you come with a price that's unreasonable,
it eventually becomes just an asset sale. My prediction for this, no shade to the broker.
Oftentimes they're hand forced by the client, him or herself. We'll follow it closely. I would imagine this is
going to sit for an extended period of time. Next headline, Judah Wickauer. What is that headline?
Oh, this is your headline. Set the stage for this. This is from city council meeting yesterday put the lower third on screen this is from Molly Conger, the socialist dog mom
reporting from the city council meeting
she live tweets them
I've got some
numbers that she posted on
images, if you want me to put them up
you can put the images up.
Those images are from City Council meeting.
They were presented to Council last night.
Set the stage here. We've got 60 seconds for this.
90 seconds for this topic.
I'm putting you on the clock. Judah's
a very efficient speaker
and explainer.
Well, then I will skip.
Siri, set the timer
for 90 seconds
I will skip the
I'll skip the graphics
the educational barriers
this is for unstable housing
and that creates barriers of lack of documentation
few resources for school fees for supplies, losing credits when transferring schools, gaps in instruction.
And in 2020 to 2021, there were 55 students who were identified as unstably housed. Two years later, from 22 to 23,
that was up to 141 students. That is astronomical, Joe.
And in the 23 to 24 school year, it is slightly down at 136 students. That may not seem like an enormous number compared to the number of kids
that we've got in schools around the area, but as any parent will tell you, that's too many students
that are unstably housed, and that affects their ability to do well in school.
It affects their home life.
I can't imagine.
It's certainly something to keep an eye on.
This is a perfect segue.
Oh, look at that.
Done.
90 seconds on the dot.
Judah Wickauer, props to Judah.
You're on point today.
Perfect segue into Superintendent Gurley,
Charlottesville Public Schools,
Superintendent Haas, Alamara County Public Schools.
Who's got the more difficult job and why?
We're going to set the clock for two minutes.
Siri, timer for two minutes.
Two minutes. Counting down.
Judah Wickauer, you say Dr. Gurley has the more difficult job. Go.
60-second argument waiting to happen.
That was just my first call. Dr. Gurley has the more difficult job. Go. 60-second argument waiting to happen.
That was just my first call.
I'm sure you're probably right about Haas, but... Okay, can I jump in here, and I'll extend your time here.
If you're going to make a compelling case or a compelling argument...
I don't have a compelling...
You don't diminish your compelling case by saying,
that was just my first hunch,
and the guy I'm arguing with is probably going to win.
I don't have a compelling argument.
My first thought... For the sake of a talk show. My first thought
was that we
know Haas has
done things his own way.
He's given polls
on whether or not
to change school
names and then gone ahead and
changed them despite
despite people wanting the opposite.
Surveys, parents.
So my initial impression was, if this guy's doing whatever he wants, then he's probably
having an easier time than Gurley, who's got to deal with, I mean, even though it's only one school, right?
Charlottesville?
Charlottesville High School?
Well, he's the superintendent
of all Charlottesville public schools.
Granted, there is only one high school in Charlottesville.
Yeah, that's fair.
So, but, you know, Charlottesville has had
more than its share of news articles recently.
Okay, Jerry's turn.
This is how you make a compelling case.
Dr. Matthew Haas has the most difficult job of the two.
Here are the reasons why.
He's got more schools.
He has Alamaro High School.
He has Western Alamaro High School.
He has Monticello High School.
He has three high schools.
Gurley has one.
There is a much larger population of students in Alemarle schools versus Charlottesville schools.
Albemarle County Public Schools are vastly larger
than Charlottesville Public Schools.
That's point number two.
Point number three, because of that population base,
he faces more headwinds and problems.
Point number four, look at the school board race that just transpired.
Bryce versus Spillman, it had global attention.
The attention on
Albemarle County Public Schools is significantly greater because there's more parents in Albemarle
County Public Schools, and because there's more parents, more media covers Albemarle
County Public Schools. Albemarle High School, for example, had the same headwinds in Charlottesville
High School when it came to brouhaha's, backyard brawling, fights, brawls, whatever the hell you want to call them.
Students running amok, stampeding students through the hallways,
students not listening to parents.
You had the junior varsity football incident, the hazing.
That led to arrests.
You have drugs, you have sex, you have cell phones.
Haas by far has the more difficult job, and it's not even close. Haas has navigated
landmines almost expertly well. You look at the people navigating landmines professionally in the
Central Virginia market, and you make a legitimate argument that Dr. Matthew Haas understands how to navigate political headwinds and political
landmines better than anyone. Give me someone in Central Virginia. This is a topic for tomorrow's
show. Write this down for a headline. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts. Give me one
person in Central Virginia who knows how to navigate political landmines and headwinds
better than Matthew Haas, the superintendent of Alamo County Public Schools.
I'm open-minded to anyone giving me
that insight.
That's a headline for tomorrow. That could be our lead
headline. He's a
virtuoso at that.
As a result,
I win
this argument. Dr. Matthew
Haas is the more difficult job
you did a good job teacher
alright
Jack and Jill's
Mel's, Lumpkin's
which is the most likely to survive
put that lower third on screen
we're going to spend two minutes on this
actually we'll spend three minutes on this
this is my favorite topic of the show here
we'll spend four minutes on this
Siri set the clock for three minutes.
Siri, set a timer for three minutes.
Three minutes. Counting down.
Thank you, Siri.
Jack and Jill's,
Mel's, Lumpkin's.
Most likely to still serve customers
two years from now.
I give it to Jack and Jill. I give it to Jack and Jill's, Lumpkins. Most likely to still serve customers two years from now. I give it to Jack and Jill.
I give it to Jack and Jill's too.
I give it to Jack and Jill's.
I don't think Lumpkins is going to be Lumpkins.
Mel's Cafe's got a GoFundMe.
Mel Walker's family has launched a GoFundMe.
They launched it, I'll tell you when.
I got the GoFundMe open right now.
I mean, just the fact that they launched the GoFundMe
kind of tells me that they don't have a path forward yet.
And then you've also got...
They launched the GoFundMe on May 30th.
We are now on the 18th.
They launched the GoFundMe basically three weeks ago.
They asked for $20,000.
Why $20,000 seems... That's like peanuts. $20,000 for that GoFundMe. Nearly
three weeks later, that GoFundMe has not even reached the 50% marker. It's raised $9,793.
It has not opened since Mr. Walker's passing. Where is Rodney the rooster? Why has Rodney the rooster been kidnapped?
And how the hell do you steal a seven-foot porcelain rooster
without anyone knowing?
There's not a chance in H-E Double Hockey Sticks
that Lumpkins is going to be serving people two years from now.
Right.
Especially since they took the sign down as well.
Jack and Jill's is still in operation right now.
Zenise's daughter is running the business.
Two years from now, Jack and Jill's is still in operation right now. Zenise's daughter is running the business. Two years from now,
Jack and Jill's, the family
owns the real estate and the location.
The Lumpkins family
owns the Lumpkins real estate.
Mel's does not own Mel's Cafe.
Mel's is already for sale right now.
Listed earlier this year
by the long-time owner of the real estate.
Two years from now, that's not going to be Mel's Cafe.
And that sucks for Charlottesville.
No doubt.
In a two-and-a-half-week period of time, a three-week period of time,
we've seen potentially the demise of three of the most iconic businesses
in central Virginia, Mel's, Jack and Jill's, and Lumpkin's.
And only one of those three is going to survive,
and that's Jack and Jill's on High Street.
Why are they going to survive?
Because they had a plan in place to pass the business
from one generation, the founders and niece,
to the second generation, the daughter.
They owned the real estate.
They had a secession plan in place.
You've seen the HBO show Secession, right?
Of course you have.
It's a fantastic show.
They had a secession, right? Of course you have. It's a fantastic show.
They had a secession plan in place. Mel's did not.
And Lumpkins, the current owners, have run the business into the ground.
Jack and Jill's will serve. Lumpkins and Mel's will not be here.
And I'm curious to see what happens to the $9,793
that have been raised into GoFundMe.
Does it go through if you don't raise the amount that you were aiming for?
Great question.
I don't know the GoFundMe rules.
That's three minutes on that topic.
What happens to that?
You say it goes back.
Bill McChesney says Jack and Jill's all day, every day, and twice on Sunday.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, and I could be wrong,
but I believe GoFundMes that don't reach their goal.
Money gets sent back to the originals, to the people?
Yeah, kind of like a Kickstarter where if it doesn't reach its goal,
then nobody ends up actually paying what they had um what's the word donating yeah what they
had promised to donate john blair watching the program get john blair's photo on screen this is
what he says tough to think mel survives the property was already for sale before his passing
here's a twist for you i don't think lump Lumpkin survives as a brand, but the building
itself may become another restaurant. Jack and Jill, I'm assuming that there is the ability for
the brand to continue in the same building, 100%. Family owns the real estate, daughter's running
the business. Yeah. That crushed ice, those footlong hot dogs, that bean soup and that chili,
it's going to survive. Will the ouzo and the cigarettes after hours survive? Probably not. I'll miss that. All right. Final topic of the talk show.
Elder fraud is currently at an epidemic scale. Judah Wickhower topic. Ginny Hu watching the
program first. She says this. I have, she said,
I taught at two colleges.
My niece just graduated from Maryland
and while our eldest goes to a smaller school
down south, she is currently in the summer law
program at Berkeley. What many do not
realize is schools like UVA have grad
students
and grad students teaching class
who got their undergrad degrees from the Ivy
Leagues and they have been spreading their wokeism at schools like UNC-UVA in Maryland for decades.
Great comment right there from Ginny Hu.
Remind everyone it's primary day and to please go out and vote.
And she says, I think Jack and Jill will make it as long as the daughter still wants to run it.
I agree.
I'm going to quote retweet this one.
I agree with Ginny Hu.
Quote, retweet for Ginny Hu on Twitter.
Roosternapped!
Deep Throat and Deep Throat's oldest son, High Voice,
have put some very compelling photos together
of where Ronnie the rooster is.
They're not in the Twitter DMs.
I've chosen at this point
not to show those photos on screen,
although they made me laugh hysterically
over the weekend.
Hi, voice.
Hi, voice.
I miss seeing you.
And same for you, deep throat.
The photos are pretty effing hilarious.
They're pretty funny.
You're laughing at them. Elder fraud. The photos are pretty effing hilarious.
Elder fraud.
Don't take advantage of elderly people.
It's happened.
God.
My dad got hit by someone.
Got hit by someone?
They robbed him?
They punched him in the face and took his wallet?
He has like a man purse, doesn't he?
He does.
What, did he get robbed?
Not robbed, Rob, but he had someone,
this was a few years ago,
somebody called and, or no,
I think they were texting him.
Put Jude on the clock for 30 seconds.
And pretending that they were his partner's mother.
Good Lord.
And saying, hey, I've got to get a present for the kids.
Can you, I mean, you know, they mention in this, and he mentions in this article that it's oftentimes they get you
by creating a false sense of urgency. If anyone texts you and says,
I need $15,000 right now in the next 45 minutes
or my life is over, I'm getting arrested
or everything bad, catastrophic is happening,
that's a scam.
They're using urgency against you.
That's like scam artist number one technique.
If it's someone that you think you know texting you...
Call them.
Call them.
FaceTime them.
If it's a...
If it's a...
Who gives $15,000 to a person over text message?
If it's a business or a bank,
again, call them
because somebody could be spoofing their number.
But the thing is,
it's easy to fall for
these things. My dad, before he knew, you know, before he thought better of it, got a card that
he gave to this person, you know, gave the number to online, you know, go have a statistic that in 2023, Americans older than 60 lost $3 billion to online scammers.
That's just last year.
That's terrifying.
Because one day we're going to be 60.
And our loved ones are 60 plus.
And if you've seen the AI photos and
AI
voices that
are going around now. They can scale pretty
much everything. Mimic pretty much everything.
Yeah. In 10 or 20 years
they'll be able to copy your
father's voice, your
kid's voice. They'll call you up. This is what they're going to say. They'll call you up. Jerry,'s voice, your kid's voice.
They'll call you up.
This is what they're going to say.
They'll call you up.
Jerry, get your ass in here.
On a spoofed phone number.
Jerry, USOP, get your ass in here.
Don't take advantage of the elderly.
Whose voice is that going to be?
It's my father's.
Pretty much my entire childhood.
Judah Wittkower, Jerry Miller, the I Love Steve will show on Tuesday. Thank you kindly for joining us. So long, everybody.
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