The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Francis Pereira Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Francis Pereira of Spread the Fire Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. We thank you for watching. We thank you for listening. We thank you for praying. We thank you for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. We are excited what the Lord is going to do through the show today. We have Francis Pereira with us live on set. We will excited what the Lord is going to do through the show today. We have Francis Pereira with us live on set. We will introduce him in just a minute. A lot of you already know Francis. We thank you for joining just because he's on the show today. All right, awesome time

last week with these guys. We got to praise and worship over the airways. Even for the man, Jerry Miller, that was a new one. So I want to thank Jerry. I want to thank Judah. I just want to honor them just for a quick second on my heart right at this moment because they allow me to do the things that I'm good at. They handle all the technology. They handle everything, getting the guests on the show. And they give us the freedom to speak what the Lord has for us, which you cannot take for granted these days. So Judah and Jerry, I love both of y'all. And I just thank you for embracing and truly being a part, really, of what the Lord is doing through this show. So look, guys, a lot of people, you know, 2.30 in the afternoon. We appreciate you, those who are watching live.

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So look, I'm going to share really quickly a testimony that I felt in my heart. The Lord started downloading some things to me this morning. So before I introduce Francis, this is his show today, but it's going to be a quick testimony time. And a lot of it has to do with childlike faith and hearing from God. Because we so often put God in a box. There are so many different ways that you can hear from the Lord. So he may speak to us in visions. He may speak to us in dreams or pictures, other people through his word.

There's so many ways. I don't want to limit it. But one way that he has started to speak to me in the past year, which is really unique, is actually through my son. He has a prophetic gift and he hears, he gets pictures from the Lord. He draws them out. And many times these pictures, these visions that he gets actually come to pass. And it's a really beautiful thing. He's only eight years old. The first time that I realized that he was hearing from the Lord, he drew a picture. It was a picture of him here god here god was

handing him something it could have been a banana guys it could have been a bottle of water it could have been a piece of pizza he doesn't know scripture on that level but i asked him what it was and he said it was bread the lord was giving him bread And that's when I started to know, wow, he really is hearing from the Lord. So I had the honor this weekend of going to Troy, Ohio to speak at my friend John and Linda's conference. They were guests on the show this season already. And I asked my son who was coming with me, I said, Kai, I said, can you draw a picture, see what the Lord shows you about the trip? And he wanted to watch TV or something. And I said, don't rush it, make sure it's Lord, or I'm going to send you back down there. So he came up really quickly. I'm like, son, are you sure that's the Lord? He said, this is what he gave me. So he drew this picture. He did

it really quickly. I think he was just trying to be able to watch TV, but he showed the picture to me. He basically scribbled it. He's a good artist, but I'm going to show it on the screen right now for those that can see. He drew this very quick picture. And the interesting thing is I asked him what it was. And he said that this is a picture of the church that we were going to this weekend. He said, this is me after I speak. And he said that this is someone in the audience who came and gave their life to Jesus. And so it was a really powerful picture. The interesting thing is the church that we attend has couches, which these I knew were not couches, or that's what the Lord was showing me. They were not chairs. He'd never really been to a church that had church pews, but I saw these and I saw church pews. So I said,

all right, Lord, I said, if I go into that church and I see church pews, that's going to be a sign to me. I walk into the church and I saw the church pews immediately. I'm like, wow. So at the end of my message, I got up and I basically shared what I'm sharing to you guys right now about the picture. I did not show it. I didn't even have it with me, but I just say, you know, I really feel like in my heart because when we talk about giving our lives to Jesus, guys, we talk about baptism, you know, just saying a prayer to go to heaven because mama told you to, or your spouse told you to, or, you know, you weren't really giving your life to the Lord. That's not what gets you to heaven. It's, it's a, it's a heart posture. God knows our heart. Are we really giving our life to him? Are we giving our

life to him? And what I felt in my heart at that moment was that there was someone, and I felt like it was a younger girl. When I saw the picture, the Lord just spoke to me female. And I felt like my son confirmed that. And I said, you know, I think that this fits you. I think you may have even been baptized in your life before, but you didn't even really know what you were doing. And if now is the time that you want to give your life to the Lord, I encourage you to come up. It was after the fact I realized a big step of faith there, Francis. And the place got quiet. You know, that can be an intense moment.

And I sat there for about two minutes, and it got quiet. You know, that can be an intense moment. And I sat there for about two minutes and it was quiet. And I said, I'm going to wait because I really trust in my son's ability to hear from the Lord. Guys, I'm sharing this right now because this is a teaching moment. You know, the Lord, there is no JV Holy Spirit. The same spirit that lives in my eight-year-old son is the same spirit that lives in Francis, that lives in me, that lives in your favorite guy on TV, Christian pastor, whatever it may be. So anyways, after about two minutes, this young girl comes up. She gives her life to Jesus. It was actually the pastor's daughter of the church that we were at. It was a fairly, let's call religious church. They weren't necessarily operating in the gifts of the Spirit.

It was just a relationship that the guy having the conference had. And, I mean, this girl was getting rocked by Holy Spirit the whole weekend. She was getting delivered at one moment. And the Lord just, he took her to another place. She gave her life to the Lord, and they baptized her the next night. Oh, my gosh. So this is something I wanted to share guys because childlike faith and you know god will use a donkey of course he'll use an eight-year-old child all right and and something

else that the lord was really putting on my heart about that today um you know we've had shows where we talk about the five-fold ministry and this is why it's important the evangelist the pastors the teachers the prophets i have more an event evangelistic gift healing deliverance my son is more of a seer he moves in the prophetic so you take these gifts together the prophetic gift of my son and the evangelistic gift of me and god use those together to help lead this girl to the lord come on and it's really it's a powerful thing. So please don't say that these things aren't important. Please don't say they aren't for today.

The power of our testimony of the one. And now that's what I'm going to share for today. So I thank you guys for hearing me out on that. And now I'm going to introduce Francis. If you can put him on the set, put him on the screen. Let me know when he's ready, Judah. Say hi, Francis. If you can put him on the set, put him on the screen. Let me know when he's ready, Judah. Say hi, Francis. Hi, everybody. You see that beautiful smile? This man carries the joy of the Lord. Everybody knows it. Jerry said as soon as Francis walked in the set today, he could feel

something different. I said, that's the presence of God. That's the joy of the Lord on this man. So, Francis, we thank you for being in the studio. Just introduce yourself. Well, my name is Francis and I live in Stewart's Draft. I mean, now moved to Stanton, fellowship with a good church called Greenmont Fellowship at Cold Springs Road, Stewart's Draft. And I love this man, Nate. You know, each time you get spurred you get spurred on for God man and that's like an ignition takes place you know you connect with Nate and you get ignited you get reminded that's beautiful yeah and we moved from India we used to pastor in India my wife came as a missionary there and and now we're here in the states

networking taking teams to India touching people with the love of God to be renewed transform and destined into their calling that God has a call over you God has his hand over you and God will never give up on you so that's what we do here in the valley spur one another also to stop and and and look out for those that God has got his hand upon they always tell everybody that Jesus stopped for the one you know life is so busy, right, Nate? We've got a list of things to do and sometimes we think we have to save the whole town and such a burden we have to carry and we say, oh God, that's not happening and we get nervous. But think about Jesus, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, this click of his fingers, he could have saved the whole town here but he stopped for the blind man yes

and he stopped for the paralytic and he stopped for the sinners here and that's what our heart is you know stop for the one make time for someone and that's what Jesus did he built bridges into communities he built bridges into synagogues by stopping and giving them attention and that's who we are we are God's representatives here I mean we are kings and priests we are peace personified we are joy rolling on you know I mean we are in the light darkness is evident before us all we need to do is step out of that comfort zone. That's the number one thing. Stepping out.

Right, Nate? Absolutely. Getting over the fear of man. So much as it's getting over the fear of man. Yeah. I think we've talked about it on this show before, but if you look at somebody and it's on your heart to pray for them, it's on your heart to bless them,

and you're wondering if you should do it, let me tell you, it's not the devil that's telling you to bless that person it's the voice of God yeah and when you step out in those moments you step out in those moments in obedience when you hear the voice of God it's amazing how people amen amen and I also can get trapped mind you by the enemy in order to hold back. And I have to affirm my mind and affirm myself and say, God is with me at this moment. I am in the light. They are dependent on me for hope.

I am hope personified. They are looking at me, you know, and build a bridge, connect with people. I remember I was at Walmart a couple of years back and there was this beautiful girl on the cash counter. Her name was Alex, you know, and she had piercing right in her forehead and in her nose and, you know, in her chin and cheeks. And I looked at her, I said, Alex, you look beautiful. She was stunned. And I said, yeah said yeah I said do you go to any church she said no I said good churches are boring I didn't tell him about church but I said if I were

you Alex I will read my bible I would get to know Jesus yeah he loves you Alex just the way you are in fact you should come to India, I told her. I mean, they will put a rod in your cheek from this side and get up from that side. They love piercing. And she said, you know, Francis, you're the first person who's encouraged me. Wow. Christians ridiculed me as soon as they see my piercing. I said, Alex, I'm getting late.

You read your Bible and I'm going to pray for you. And I left, yeah. And we had this, you know, Harry Potter that comes to town every year in the month of September and we have great mover and shakers there, Louisa and Roger and

Gerard. We put up a stall there, trained people up and we had about eight people that day, the first evening of Harry Potter. You know, with table and he dressed like Harry Potter. You think it's another Harry Potter stall. And guess who comes walking in? Alex. And the hostess, mind you, there are eight tables and the hostess brings her straight to my table.

And you know what? Alex didn't recognize me. I mean, it's over a month I last saw her. And I said, God, let's have some fun here. So she sat down. We kind of just encouraged them. Hope you're having a good time with Harry Potter, magic mischief. We'll just wait on the spirit and we'll see what the spirit has to say to you.

And she was game for it. And I pointed my finger to her and I said, your name is Alex. Whoa, she jumped. No way. I said, hold on, hold on, Alex. You work at Walmart. What?

Oh, she shook. I said, Alex, it's Francis. We met at Walmart. What? Oh, she's sure. I said, Alex, it's Francis. We met at Walmart. Oh, yes, we met. But think about it, Alex. We have eight tables here. What are the chances? I'm the only guy who knows you.

What are the chances the hostess brings you straight to my table? And this word depression was coming to you. I see, Alex, you've been struggling with depression you know and it's hard for you but Jesus is reaching out to you today Alex God has a story shot Alex gave her life to Jesus wow right there and she gave me her number begin to send scriptures to her and we had a great time you know and you know what's so amazing about that story and what you're sharing? You may have been, she was burned from religion, burned from church, burned from other people. You may have been the only opportunity that Alex ever had to have a real encounter with Jesus.

So that's a good one. You took advantage of that opportunity and the joy that the Lord in you, she saw that. She responded and she wanted to give her life to Jesus. And that is amazing. And what I also think is really amazing, I had a call this morning. I was talking to a friend on the phone. He's very prophetic. And he said, your show today is going to be a lot on evangelism.

None of my notes had anything to do with evangelism. And guess what? We're talking about evangelism. Come on. And I love it. So, all right. You carry something very beautiful. Thank you.

I have a lot of amazing men and women of the Lord that come on this show. We have great conversation, but I'm pretty good at being able to keep like a straight face. You know, but the whole time you're on the show, I find myself smiling. There is something about you that brings joy. It brings joy. You know, Jerry felt that when you walked in. Can you, like, talk about that a little bit? How did that happen?

Have you been like that your whole life? I mean, share. Oh, man. Nate, I was a dead man, a pathetic man, lost in burnt-up heroin and marijuana. Oh, heroin, you said? Yeah, just burnt-up heroin, the cheap heroin. We couldn't even buy good heroin. Is that in India?

In India, man. I was so messed up. Crisis of identity, stereotype, insecure. I was a mess till one day God looked out on me. Till one day Jesus looked at me. And man, he picked me up from the streets of Mumbai and he began to fill me up and began to change me

and began to give me a relationship see all I knew was religion Nate you know you go to church and I was outstanding Christian you know you stand out of church you know and when the sermon is you go for a smoke cup of tea Catholic Roman Catholic where I was you know and when the sermon is you go for a smoke cup so you're actually christian catholic roman catholic where i was you know and i was such a bad influence to everybody yeah but jesus came

in and changed my life he filled me with joy yeah you know and that is what is my strength joy and there's one thing i don't want to lose in this world, is joy. And I lose it sometimes. Joy of the Lord is our strength. Yeah, when I mess it up, I lose joy and come back with a repentant heart. Repentance is a gift. And that joy comes back. So it's just, as the word says, my presence brings joy.

It's just the presence of God, Nate, and nothing else in me. I don't have that. Man, I know what a mess I am. I know how crazy I am. I cannot offer hope to people. Yeah.

So, pursue the presence. Pursue the presence. Continue to spend time. I tell people, you know, whenever I'm preaching or sharing, find time, 30 minutes in a day to just sit quietly before him. One thing Christians cannot do is sit quietly with God.

And that's what it is. We always want to do, do, do, do, do. We're not saved by our works. We're saved by grace through faith. Grace through faith. But have an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. How do you get to know someone? You spend time with them.

Yeah. Go sit and spend time with them. Come on, come on. That's the key. Because he wants to pour himself, you spend time with them. Yeah. Go sit and spend time with them. Come on, come on. That's the key because he wants to pour himself in you. He loves you more than you love him. He's waiting in that place and in expectation more than you can even think of. He's more excited about you coming there

and to embrace you and love on you as a father and say, man, we're going to be friends now. That's why he said, I don't call you servant, I call you friend. That's the he said, I don't call you servant, I call you friend. That's the key, knowing God as a friend. And it has been a journey, you know, for me all these years. Knowing that a friend loves at all times. Proverbs 17, 17, a friend sticks with you.

A friend never gives up on you. I mean, you read the Old Testament stories. Any of these men finished well, the most, the best man messed it up towards the end david messed it up i mean solomon messed it up jacob man that guy was a mess from the beginning but yet god calls them friends yeah god reaches out to them and that's what it is here spending time in his presence and that i believe is why you're able to have these encounters when you're out there in the world because you

spend intimate time alone with him. You know what it's like to hear his voice. You know when he's putting it on your heart to speak to someone, right? Yeah, absolutely. That's all it is. I mean, we had a wedding on, when was it, Friday at Keswick, you know, and Thursday morning

I just realized... Because we've been here, Cindy, if you're watching, you just got a free plug on the White Mountain Ministry. Yeah, that's a beautiful place here. I love Cindy. She does a great job there. It was the wedding of Daniel and Audrey, you know. And I've been friends with Cindy for like 12 years. Wow.

I just got to know. And Thursday morning, I realized my suit is burnt, you know. I usually get them done up in India it's so cheap and they burnt it up and I need a new suit I rushed to Cole you know in Waynesboro to get a suit and there was

this young girl there Cameron helping me and you know just and I got a chance to minister to Cameron yeah and she was you, so open about it and listening to every word I said. And she gave me her number and we are in touch now, you know. And I'm preaching this Sunday at Green Mall

and Cameron said, send me the link. Can you beat that? And she's not a Christian also, you know. But she's ready to think it over. I mean, that's where we shoot arrows of joy and hope and peace wherever we go.

We don't have to think of saving that person. I always tell people, everybody's building together. One sows, someone else waters, someone else reaps. Just put a brick in the wall. Yes, that's so good. Somebody will take it up from there.

We want to have the instant gratification. Yeah. In some ways it puffs up our own ego to say, well, we led all these people to the Lord. What about all the people that got them to the meeting? Yeah. And I want to show them the meeting, they come and give their light to the Lord.

But what about the people who got them to the meeting? Come i wanted to show them the meeting they come and give the light to the lord but what about the people who got them to the meeting come on everybody played a part exactly absolutely yeah exactly that's really good you know look for five years of of i mean it's always going to be a part of my walk with the lord but it has been all about the one for a long time encounter after counter one after one and you know it's like we talk about the one for a long time. Encounter after encounter, one after one. And, you know, it's like we talk about the power of our testimony. And I thank you for sharing some of yours. The tagline, the motto, whatever you want to call it, of White Mountain Ministries actually is, if you've had an encounter with Jesus and a testimony, you have a ministry.

That's it. Because we don't have to go out and start a church or go get a theological degree or a website or a 501c3. No. Just go share your testimony of who he is and watch what happens. See, the problem is, you know, Nate, I realized in my past, it was an identity crisis. I would compare myself. And there the enemy would hit me harder. And, you know, and we don't have to compare ourselves because comparison brings regret

and regret is not a platform of peace and joy. Regret is just a platform of condemnation. You know, you have the platform of the kingdom of heaven. The kingdom of God is within you. That's right. Amen. You are the light of the world. You have to just go out, step out.

You don't need to be a pastor. You don't need to be a pastor. You don't need to be a leader. You are anointed and appointed by the God of this universe who has a call over you, who is destined to be committed to you wherever you are. Open our eyes.

Be sensitive to the Holy Spirit's nudging. You know? I think that we have to have a title to be used by God that's such deception yeah absolutely that's a big deception we don't have to compare we don't have to have any title he says I've baptized you with the Holy Spirit and fire is the dynamis power within you you know to heal to deliver I, forget if the big signs and wonders doesn't take place. People get touched in their spirit, they get free. Hallelujah. I remember meeting this woman at a gate, you know, and I ministered Jesus to her and she said, you know, my husband is drinking and

said, don't worry, we are going to pray for him. Just prayed for her. I didn't even share Jesus. I just prayed for her. She met me the second time, Nate. She's saying, my husband stopped drinking. And her husband comes there. And he's saying, man, I stopped drinking. I've given up. And then she turns to me and says, man, the moment he takes a sip,

he gets a nausea feeling. He wants to throw up. I love where this is going. I tell you, we just begin to pray for now i'm not chasing her she's chasing us hallelujah she gets know where we are stayed she comes to us and she says we want to start a church in our house unbelievers we start a church in the house the she goes and get all the neighbors and we have a great time just one meeting at the gate you know remind me of that samaritan woman who was brought the whole town you know and there are these ones who have destinies to be unlocked

but you know what who holds the key you hold the key that's right and that's it the holy spirit is the key but i like what you're sharing about how you you prayed for a husband and then he gave up the alcohol right because this is how the lord works this is why we speak these things into existence you know yeah i mean well i said i like the way you're going i mean i've had testimony similar to that i remember one time a few years ago i was praying for a girl in a pool. She was actually the lifeguard at our pool. And she was opening up about anxiety and things that she was dealing with. Just for the record, I did not even pray about addiction. But I prayed over her.

The kingdom of God was released upon her. I found out after the fact that she was addicted to cocaine, about 10 minutes after I prayed for her, she went to the bathroom to sniff a line. And she, just like you said, she got disgusted disgusted she wanted to throw up she knew it was God she had no desire to do it and she stopped doing cocaine hallelujah amen I mean these are the things that the Lord does it's amazing amazing they need to be shared and you know yeah and you know there are times that people have not responded and you wonder what's you to happen. Sometimes the fear is there, oh I'll be ridiculed. He was ridiculed for our sake.

Amen. And therefore we need to just look out for such people. Step into that place. I was at Walmart the other day and there was this lady. Sounds like the Lord likes to use you in Walmart. Yeah. Walmart is one place but my friend Gerard tells me, take a cart, don't just

walk around and evangelize. Move with the cart, move with some goods in the cart, so they know you're a customer there. And so I had this lady, and I just told her one line, Jesus loves you and cares for you, you know. And she asked me, what's your name? I said, I'm Francis. Which church you go to? I said, Greenmoor, I love this. What you've done to me? And she goes to her workplace and there she meets another friend and she tells him, you know what? Brother, I met

Jesus today at Walmart. Wow. And he asks, what's his name? His name is Francis. Wow. And that friend happened to be from the same church. Wow. How he turns around. Sometimes it comes back, you know. And we need this encouragement. I need it to hear that.

Oftentimes it does. Yeah. I always tell people, like, look, I don't need to hear the testimony. I always just believe that God's doing something. Anytime I pray for someone, anytime I talk to them about the Lord. But when they come back, six months, three years later, it's amazing. I mean, I still want to hear, you know what I mean? Yeah, amen, amen.

Yeah, absolutely. And testimonies are good, but you don't know. You know, it's more the ripple effects that take place, you know. It's just waves after waves. You're touching one person, that person is touching somebody and those person are touching somebody else and it goes on.

It's like waves, it goes on. Impactive. You know, every person in the church impacts even one person a month. Forget every one person, I'm telling you we see our town saved we see our communities

coming to Jesus I mean in some ways I think I've read statistics that something like 90 plus percent of Christians never actually lead one person to the Lord just imagine like you said even if you led one person

a year yeah just one person a year I Yeah, just one person a year. I mean, think of 200 people in a church leading one person a year. 400 in one year. 600 in the next year. Churches are multiplying. And that will still make a massive impact for the kingdom of God. Yeah, absolutely.

So put a goal of at least one person a month to reach out. Pray in the morning, Holy Spirit, give me an encounter with someone to meet with, you know. And God will bring that person. And if you miss it, don't worry. There's always another day, you know. Let the Holy Spirit lead you. But you got to know, God will bring that person in your path. Yes, he will.

And you will have the joy of sharing with that person. Build a bridge. Connect with that person. It's what I usually do. Either God loves you. Oh, you're wearing a great shirt today. Look at the beautiful smile you carry. Oh, I love, you know, the way you move.

Affirm that person. Yeah. You become the encounter. It transforms you, man. Yes. Ultimately. So we're going to step into something. That was awesome.

That was not even expected. So good piece on evangelism. I believe that people are definitely going to gain something from that. Hey, we thank you guys for watching. Share the show. Share the link. That's up. More and more people are going to watch the show, guys.

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Can I share one short story? I want to share a short story of connection. How important it is to be an encourager in the body? Because sometimes people can get so religious and pull you down and tell you things you are not doing right you know rather go out and be they call the river of life yeah we are pilgrims you know people prosper where we go and i'm going i'm in this burger king restaurant and i see two people reading the bible so i put my arms around them and i encourage them you know praise god you're reading god's word god bless you this one guy got so excited he He said, give me your number. I want to get in touch with you.

He got in touch with me, happened to be a pastor, you know, from a church. A good man, Joey. He said, let's meet. We meet in the same restaurant the next day and we're sharing Jesus and encouraging him. And I see three people, women, they're sitting and I just sense God saying,

go and share my love to them. So I left Juhi, I went there, ministered to them, said, God sent me all the way to tell you one thing. Oh, he loves you. I said, no, that he's not abandoned you. He's with you. He cares for you. You are on his heart. You might be lonely at this moment. You might feel you're forgotten, but God is with you. And by now, tears are rolling down their eyes in Burger King, and the staff is looking. And I see Joey there, you know, Pastor Joey.

You know what's happened in that moment? The whole atmosphere is changing. Changing, yeah. I said, Pastor Joey, come here. He said, me? I said, yeah, come. I said, pray for them. You're the pastor.

Pray for them. Give their lives to Jesus. And there we had like a mini revival meeting the pastor, pray for them. Give their lives to Jesus. And there we had like a mini revival meeting, yeah, in Burger King. Pastor Joey got so excited with me. You know, in this moment, he connected me to another pastor, Pastor Dennis. We became friends and he took me to Germany

to evangelize in Germany. Amen. How God connects. Relationships are in store waiting to take you to another level yeah so good you know what i see about you francis is that well my message is this past weekend in ohio was actually it was i titled it become the bible we can read the bible or we can become it and i can see you are living out these stories and it's beautiful to see thank you for sharing

the testimonies all right so something we talked about yesterday on the phone I think you wanted to touch on today walking in love and honor yeah oh that's my message at Greenmont this this Sunday walking in love and honor give us a teaser yeah I give a small gist It is so important I have noticed that sometimes Religion Because of pride can take hold Of a spirit and we begin to Judge people And whom you judge you cannot love

You know he says Man you overlook the log In your eye and you are trying to find a speck And somebody else is there And we are not called to judge The world is already judged, you know we have come here to bring freedom

because the Bible says where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty and think about it, think about it Moses not a good example in the Bible because the only thing he did

You know In that sense Was believing on God And stepping out in God And God empowering him to somebody else's mouth You know He didn't want to even Obey that call

Abraham Worst example The only thing Abraham did right was, he believed and because he believed it was, credit to him as righteousness and God became his friend. Almost gave his wife away, Hagar. I mean, not Hagar, what's her name?

Sarah, you know, messed her up there. And he didn't, did the thing that God asked him to do, but he just believed. David, what a great guy. He messed it up. I mean, all these men, now think about in Hebrews 11,

when God speaks about these men, they are still heroes of the faith. Look at it, he honors them. Man speaks so well of, and not even one ounce of criticism. Nothing. Why? Because he wasn't looking from the Old Testament.

He was looking from the New Testament. He was not looking from the goats, the blood of the goats. He was looking from the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ. And he honors these men here. Powerful men. And that's what we are called to. Live in honor.

Live in love. Think about it, love. love is such a beautiful dish. 1 Corinthians chapter 13, it talks about love is not selfish, love is patient, love is kind, love is not envious. I did a cooking class here.

I took a cooking class to teach people to make Indian food. I never knew cook, but I came here. Maybe you can come teach me and my wife. Yeah, love to. She makes tiki marsala. Yeah, oh, that's a great dish. It's amazing. I don't know how authentic it is, but good job, honey. But think about make butter chicken. She's laughing.

And think that you don't put butter in butter chicken and you put the wrong ingredients. You'll mess up the whole dish. It's like not putting spaghetti in a spaghetti dish. Same way with love here. Love has the right ingredients. Patience, forgiveness,

long bearing with people up here. And that's what if we got to give love with the right ingredients to people. And loving and honoring people is taking people onto a new level of relationship yeah yes that makes us secure with one another and helps us think best of one another yeah and malice gossip gossip i say is like

somebody vomiting in a swimming pool you know yeah i pool. I call it a poison in the spirit. Yeah. And you drinking the poison expecting somebody else to die. So walk in love and honor. Love people. Honor people for who they are. Speak well of people. God changed my heart, yeah.

From criticism to whining, grumbling, you know, on the journey of honoring people. Honor the least to the best, yeah. Jesus is love. Amen. And it can take time to become love. It can take time. It does take time to renew our mind,

to transform our heart, to change the way we see. I i used to uh listen to dan moeller and there was a message called becoming love this is like when i was close uh you know shortly after i was set free and i must have watched this video becoming love i recommend it to anyone who's watching the show dan moeller becoming love and i must have watched it 50 times and i remember i used to think like there's no way i can live this way. Like, I can have an encounter with the Lord. I can move in power, but, like, walking like this, wow.

You know, to knowing that no person can dictate who you are, how you feel, circumstances of your day. Every day in the kingdom is a good day. We don't sit around and boo-hoo, right? I mean, to live in that place. And then I got to a place where it's like, okay, this is possible. And then I started getting to a place where I started to walk it. And I'm not sitting here saying I'm a robbed.

I have a long way to go. But I know, like, we are called to look like Jesus. We are called to represent love. Amen. And that's what, yeah, love is poured by the Holy Spirit into our hearts. And this is something I like to practice here. And if I fail to do, I see how deficient of love I am with my own family, my own wife.

Sit in His presence and say, God, fill me with your love. You get distracted, take your phone, write down all those thoughts. You need to call someone. Put it on the phone. Put a reminder. And sit. Still to call someone, put it on the phone, put a reminder and sit. Still, you say, put some music and wait and let him love upon you. You are the apple of his eye. You are his royal diadem.

He's in love with you. I mean, Psalm 39 says, His thoughts for you outnumber the grain of the sand on the beach. Think of it. The grain on the sand of a beach can outnumber anything on earth and universe but it cannot outnumber God's thoughts for you.

I mean only a crazy person will think about you every moment. He has to be in love with you to think about you. And that's what God, he thinks about you every moment, man. He has to be in love with you to think about you. And that's what God, he thinks about you every second. He loves and he wants to love upon you. Make time.

Sit with him. Be filled with his love. So when you're out, you're just overflowing. You're overflowing. And what we're talking about, this really is like one of my biggest prayers for this show

is that, you know, the tag prayers for this show is it you know the the tagline is of the show is this ain't church y'all yeah it's all about the kingdom and we're not knocking church we're just sharing i hope you guys can see my prayers that you can see and listen to these testimonies what we're sharing there's it can be so much more yeah see the important line i think what nate what you're making is such an important statement. Because when Jesus came, he never said the church is here. He said his first message, the kingdom is here. Yes. Right? We try to see the kingdom from the church.

No, no, no, no. We see the church from the kingdom. Amen. Amen. And our whole perspective changed. We are a kingdom people. people yeah we have a church a sense of belonging that we love on people and where we minister to people and we reach out to people but we are a kingdom that's being enlarged across the globe that's good an organism that is so fast and so powerful that is outnumbering anything else, any organization, because the Spirit of God and Jesus said, I will build my church and the council of hell will not prevail against it. Amen. Amen.

The council of hell can prevail against any organization, but not against the church of God. Amen. Because there lies the wisdom of God. There lies the presence of God. There lies the priesthood of God. Kings and priests. Hallelujah. Who are powerful. Who live by God's presence. You've never preached any of this before, have you? I'm just messing. Yeah. I mean, the presence of God is here, Nate. You're an anointed man. You're a man who spurs people up, you know. You're a man who spurs people up, you know. You're a man who lifts people and brings the best out of people. This is your show because you've got a good heart, Nate.

Thank you, brother. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. You know, a lot of times I talk about how I met people on the show, and I didn't really discuss that. But, you know, you and I actually, I think we had maybe even phone conversations or text conversations, similar. But I think the first time we ever actually met in person was at the heart of the home out of the home and um the first thing you said to me you're like you you came right you looked right at me you said

this is a man that's filled with the spirit of God well I don't even know if you remember saying that no like I remember and that was like a just a immediate connection I feel like that we had in the spirit and this is the thing is like when, just a immediate connection. I feel like that we had in the spirit. And this is the thing is like, when you're walking by the spirit, it's like, you can see like so many times I look at people and I'm like, do I, how do I know you? And oftentimes I've never met them before, but it's usually because they are a believer and it's like the Jesus in me can see the Jesus in them. Amen.

It's such a beautiful thing you know you can't make that stuff up amen amen so um I don't know if you want to touch base I know we've talked about this some but specifically I had notes to talk about open heaven yeah I really Acts 2 17 says not God says I will pour my Spirit on all flesh, sons and daughters. And since the church has begun, God is pouring, you know, His Spirit on all flesh here. And especially now, when I look around the world, in Iran, 50,000 mosques have shut down. Wow.

Can you beat that? The most religious place, the stronghold, one of the strongholds of Muslim, you know, 50. And because why? Because people want the truth. People are hungry for God, you know,

and God is moving in various places all over the world. You are reaching out to people and we are in a very important time in our walk with God. And I was telling Nate the other day, we should guard our spirits, you know, because familiarity can bring contempt.

What do I mean by that? I've heard this message, you know, same thing they're saying. Oh, this is church, let life goes on. But why do we say that? Because we miss on a daily one-to-one communication with the Holy Spirit. See, Paul says, or Jude says, do not forsake the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

And if you, one of the best signs that you are a spirit-filled Christian, you know what God is doing in you, and you know what God is doing in you and you know what God is saying to you. That's a good sign and it's important to know that and I sense in my spirit that God is taking us to a new level. It's an upgrade

and it comes by the sovereignty of God and the responsibility of man. When I mean the sovereignty of God, God's promises are here and amen for your life. His destiny is amen. He's committed to you and your call. He will never abandon you or forsake you. The responsibility,

the responsibility of man is there where I don't give up. I press on. I be faithful in little things. Praise God for excellence. But you know what God said? Excellence is not promotion. He said he who is faithful in little things. Praise God for excellence. But you know what God said? Excellence is not promotion. He said he who is faithful in little things will be given more.

Faithfulness is the ladder of promotion in the kingdom of God. Amen. He will equip us for every work he has called us for. And therefore, continue to walk in his presence. Continue to wait upon him.

Because to survive in this world, we don't have the skills. Amen. It is God who gives us the tools to build up the skills to stand against the schemes of the enemy. And Pastor Seth was sharing last Sunday so well on the schemes of the enemy.

And he knows us, the enemy. You know, in Ephesians chapter 6, he wants to pull us down. He knows our weaknesses. But when we gather the tools, the tools of walking in him, the tools of praying in tongues, the tools of fasting, one of the neglected

powerful tools in the kingdom of God. Fasting. We dethrone the enemy. We destroy the powers of darkness. It's to the point where we have no chinks in the armor. Yeah. You know, and we are sensitive to the spirit of God. Fasting. Yeah. You know, and we are sensitive to the Spirit of God. Yeah. Fasting.

Yeah. And spending time and reading His word. Yeah. Speaking aloud sometimes. The kingdom of God is loud. Shout. Cry.

The Bible says at that time we need to be silent. Be still. At that time we got to shout so that our soul, Romans says, faith comes by yearning and yearning God's word.

Romans 10, 17. And our soul needs to year because soul yearning, CNN, Fox News, BBC, only that, despair

and terrible news. But our soul needs to be encouraged every year. Our soul needs to be empowered. I tell people this, you are the first leader of your soul before you are the first, the leader of your soul before you're the leader of anybody. Amen. If you cannot lead your soul, you're just taking a walk, you're leading no one. So lead our soul every day because we have to have the disciplines of God to become the man and woman of God who we are. Amen.

And what you're saying, not to get political, but obviously some pretty incredible things that happened this weekend in our country. And we interceded. We spent a lot of the weekend in Ohio interceding for our country. And we just pray for peace in our country. Amen. Amen. That's so important.

Pray for unity in our country. Yeah. That's how we rise up. And I know we have the bigger picture of of being the men of god being the kingdom of god and standing at one and praying for those in authority that's what the bible says pray for those in authority amen leaders so look tom flies when you're having fun we have about 15 minutes left francis wow thank you guys for watching thank you for sharing the show thank you for sharing the show. Thank you for supporting the show. Thank you for praying for the show. Thank you for commenting and showing us,

telling us the things that you're getting fed on this show. We do love feedback. So bless you guys. I wanted to talk because, you know, you travel in different parts of the world and share the gospel and you're in Asia a lot. So can you tell us what, what you see God doing or what it looks like? I mean, we're so, I feel like this has been coming up a lot the last couple of weeks. Like we are so, I would encourage people, well, if the Lord puts it on your heart for mission trips, go see the rest of the world. We are so, we are so blessed in this country. I think sometimes we have no idea how good we have it. The things that we complain about, the things that we take for granted. And I know that you go in countries where, my goodness, they would just even have a hamburger to eat, would be praising, they would praise God, right?

Can you just talk about other countries you go to, things you see, maybe some testimonies? Yeah, we have a ministry called Spread the Fire Ministries. And one of the things we do is we take teams to different places and one of the places that we focus on is Asia and it's fun going to the places because sometimes you wonder what difference does it

make but when you go to a village and there are people there who don't know anybody outside their 20 mile zone and that you have left your comfort zone, traveled by plane, paid a price and come and met them. It honors them. It encourages them.

It gives them the bigger picture of the kingdom. And the kingdom is large and it takes them closer to jesus here amen we also go and minister to to churches to slum churches see the condition that they live in i tell some of the people in in america if we have bathrooms or restroom as big as your bathroom we would have people staying in them i grew up in a 200, 300 square foot house. Six, seven of us slept on the floor. I didn't know what it was to sleep on a bed. You know, and I come here,

I say, Lord, I mean, this is, and thank God I never grew up because if I grew here, I would have become a nominal Christian here. Why do I need God? I have everything. Right. I hear that all the time. Why do I need God? My life is good and it saddens me it saddens you because you miss out on the call of being used by the God this universe

to transform life all over the world and that's what is stepping into this corner of your slum and you see a 300 square foot house and they have a fridge they have a bed they have a kitchen and all that 300 square foot you know what they're not complaining they're smiling they have joy so true you know i see persecution in america i see lost a job or the boss has been rude but that's not the persecution that what the church across the nations have keeping up with the benjamins or keeping up with the kardashians call it what you want it can crush your soul yeah and then you have such divine appointments, Nate, that you meet people and how God ministers to people. And, you know, I'm standing in security

and those people are waving their security, you know, bands around you. And while I can tell them about Jesus, amen, I tell them about Jesus, they get excited because it's such a boring job, monotonous job, and someone is giving them hope. They don't know where they're coming from.

I meet this girl at the airport in a duty-free shop, and I'm telling her about Jesus, and her eyes lit up. I'm telling her of the plans he has for her, and joy comes. And I get to pray with her, and she gives me a number she's in a small place

in Asia and that girl kept in touch and we began to share information of God and scriptures and today she's serving God in Spain, Barcelona

can you believe that? Just one meeting at the duty-free shops there. And so many encounters I've had in various Middle East countries. Let me ask you a question. When you share the gospel to a village or a country of people that have never even heard the name Jesus,

how do you do that? Yeah, it's very difficult sometimes to make them understand how Jesus is. But the most important thing that they can know is the sin. Everybody's sinner, you know. And then there is hope to break out of that sin. There is hope to come out of your despair. Everybody's struggling with despair. Everybody's struggling with hopelessness.

So when you bring in hope in the person of Jesus, boom, the Holy Spirit does something. He brings in ignition. He brings a revelation. And suddenly depression is gone. Some yoke has been broken, you know. That's what depending on the Holy Spirit, Nate, it's so important I've realized. Without my own strength, it can get nowhere broken you know that's what depending on the Holy Spirit Nate is so important I've

realized because on my own strength it can get nowhere you know just depending of God listening to those nudges those tugs those voices of the Holy Spirit and just following that but the most important tell them is they are loved the most important thing is that there is hope the most important thing to them is that Jesus died for them as the savior of this world and the most important thing to them is that they won't suffer the penalty for their sin now

give them examples show them how we do wrong on this earth we get a penalty we are punished you know we go to jail but Jesus took that price and just about every other religion in the world, I mean, there's sacrifices that you have to make, right?

Yeah. Sacrificing a false god, like we are the only, I mean, religion where the price of sacrifice has already been paid. And one thing they might tell you, you know, all religions are the same, which is not true. Though all religions might teach you to good, but they're not the same

You know, one will say There is no God, the other will Say, oh, it's the supreme God, you can do anything Oh, you know, freedom Liberal, another says Oh, God is like a stone Or an image, so they're

All contradicting each other The Bible is the only one Who says that God died for you and rose from the dead. That God loves you just the way you are, but he loves you too much to leave you just the way you are. Amen, brother. Anything else, any other like testimony, something you've seen God do in the last year in a foreign country, anything that comes to your heart?

And if not, that's okay. I won't push it on you. No, I mean, there's so many stories. Stories, you can never fall short of stories, you know. And stories, see, I was telling Nadia, you can have a man story or you can have a God story. Right. And man stories,

okay, they have a limited impact. But God's stories okay they have a limited impact but God's stories transform God's stories change God's stories change destiny and God's stories are important that's why we need to stop for the one so that we can pull out a God's story

and add to a book which is the Bible now and impact people's lives and impact and I was in a plane and I'm sitting in the plane and there's this couple sitting next

to me. I'm going to Denver, Colorado and I said, I'm tired. I said, I'm going to sleep. I sleep and in my sleep I can hear them fighting. They're fighting with each other and she's crying.

And I said, oh gosh. And I'd spoken to them earlier and we said they are Christians. And so I said, how do you give the gospel to Christian? They already said they're Christian, you know? And so then I asked them, where are you going? They said, oh, we're going snowboarding or I'm going to have some fun there skiing. And oh, I asked them, where are you going? They said, oh, we're going snowboarding or, you know, going to have some fun there skiing. And, oh, I said, great.

I said, she says her birthday today. So I had a gift card, $20, $40. I took it and I gave it to her and I blessed them, you know. And I said, are you married? She said, no. I said, how can you guys have a healthy marriage together, you know, without God's blessing You know just living

You just end up fighting with each other And I just heard them fight And you begin hurting each other And that girl is telling me Speak to him He needs to listen to that And he's a big guy He's huge

And I got a chance to share Jesus I got a chance to preach the gospel to them, you know, to love on them the same way and give them truth. Because I was praying, Lord, how to, you know, give them the gospel. But God opened the door here. And then I put my hammer on him and I said, I'm going to pray for you. He said, don't tell me. This is a joke. You're not praying for me. I'm praying for you right now, and your job is just listen and I got to pray for them and bless them you know and that's what it is listen to the Holy Spirit if you feel helpless rest ask God to open the way and make a way to share Jesus with them yeah so good thank you man thank you for all the testimonies you've shared today. I do want to ask, because we're about to wrap it up in a few minutes. Is there anything

on your heart you have to share for the show or for the city of Charlottesville as a whole? I believe there are churches here that can transform Charlottesville here. And we need to come together as a kingdom, you know. And Nate, you as a kingdom you know and Nate what you you're a kingdom man and God has called you to bring the body together and this is what you're doing you're inspiring the city you're lighting up the city you know by these stories by these testimonies you're impacting the kingdom and may God use you to be that channel because you are an apostle of God you know God is building you up to be a man that releases people in their gifting releases people in their anointing to be who they are so that the church can get transformed the city can be

impacted so move on Nate God is with you yeah you've not seen yet what God's gonna do to your life here you have your family I've heard stories of how God uses you stop for the one and get healed and they get transformed and I tell you you want to get spurred on meet with Nate man one thing I can promise you I will shoot it to you straight and there will be no apologies for it come on that's the way the Lord created me yeah that's what that's what I the way the Lord created me. Yeah, that's why. I am working on my gentleness a little bit. That's what understanding needs heart. You know, what's important to understand the heart

of the message. The personality might be different and it might come strong, but what is the heart of the message? To inspire me, to change me, to impact me. So move on, Nate. God is with you. You are a voice in this city, you know. And Charlottesville churches, rise up.

Join together and continue to be the light. Because God is coming in a big way. There's a mighty outpouring coming. Come on, we need to be in the gap. We need to sit in His presence. I tell everybody, our prayer life is not measured by the words we speak which is important but rather by the time we spend with him is it increasing or is it decreasing amen we're going to end with that thank you you have been a blessing to me you've been a blessing

to the show and i know a lot of people are blessed and impacted to what you shared today so thank you francis give you a clap. Oh, not at all. I appreciate you. And look, next week, we are going to have Brian Carter, my friend. A lot of you probably know Brian Carter. He is a pastor. He's an evangelist from Southern Maryland. He's a great identity teacher, moves in a lot of power.

He's another really fun guy. So I'm looking forward to next week's show. And we thank you guys for watching. We just thank you for liking. Please share the show and bless you. We speak life and love and healing over your bodies in the name of Jesus. Have a great week and we will see you soon.

God bless. God bless you. May God prosper you. Make his face shine upon you. May you continue to be the light. Don't look behind. Look ahead. Amen.

Like Paul said, look ahead. Ahead is your said look ahead ahead is your call ahead is your destiny God is with you he's changing circumstances he's transforming your situation amen you are being transformed by the glory by God don't look back look up and look ahead for God will use you powerfully God bless you God bless you. God bless you, Nate. I bless your ministry. In Jesus' name, may it multiply, may it transform not only this city, but the cities, states, and nations of the world.

Amen. In Jesus' name. Amen. Bless you guys. Have a good day. Bye. Thank you.