The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Gun Fight, 25-Year-Old In Critical Condition; 30 Shells On Ground Next To Private Cannabis Club

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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Good afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seaville show Monday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. It's glorious and gorgeous outside in the heartbeat of central Virginia. The eight blocks we call downtown Seaville. Once again, downtown Charlottesville is in the news. This time for an unfortunate set of circumstances that has a lot in the community worried. When you find 30 bullet shells on the ground next to the public library and across the street from Fleury Restaurant, you ask yourself what is going on? And that was the case Friday night into Saturday morning as foot patrol police officers in the city responded

to gunfire and gunshots immediately on the scene. The Charlottesville Police Department found a 25-year-old in critical condition. And after administering life support to the 25-year-old and transporting the mail to the University of Virginia Medical Center, a crime scene started being organized and roped off. In that crime scene, three vehicles were struck by gunfire along with an unoccupied building and 30 cartridge cases located at the scene. This is across the street from Fleury Restaurant.

This is right next to the public library in downtown Charlottesville. And this is, ladies and gentlemen, across the entryway or right next door to the Charlottesville Cannabis Club. And it's a conversation we're going to have today, the gray area of private cannabis clubs in Charlottesville and Amarillo County. And these private cannabis clubs are prolific, including one smack dab on the downtown mall next to Hamilton's restaurant,

where you pay $10 to enter, you head upstairs, and you have a selection of any kind of weed that you want, any kind of vape pens that you want, edibles, flour, indicas, sativas, basically a farmer's market for cannabis. And, you know, it's a conversation that I'm going to navigate in challenge capacity, because I know the proprietor of the Charlottesville Cannabis Club. He's a good guy. He's an entrepreneur. He has other business ventures in town. I've

also openly said on this program that I am pro-cannabis. I've been disappointed how Glenn Yonkin has managed the legalization of marijuana in the Commonwealth of Virginia. He has been, he has impeded that legalization. Marijuana and cannabis has a dark history as it applies to the arrests of black and brown people who are unquestioned, without question, I should say without question, arrested, targeted at a much more aggressive clip and prolific nature when it applies to weed than people that are white.

It's got a very sketchy history cannabis arrests have. So the legalization of marijuana was one that was done for a number of reasons. It was done to drive incremental tax revenue, interestingly for public schools. The legalization of marijuana was done because let's face it, it wasn't being enforced already right now. There was this black market where people were smoking and buying and selling weed and nothing was happening to them. At least the Commonwealth decided let's take some tax revenue from it and take it above board, maybe make it more safe and at least maybe we can distance ourselves from this very sketchy history of arrests

tied to marijuana. But we have seen of late, in particular downtown, trouble brewing with some of these private clubs. I want to have that conversation today on the I Love Seville show. What is the responsibility of local government and local police as it applies to policing a private business where trouble has found itself of late. We'll talk about that today. I want to ask you this question on a different topic. What do you think is a better location to rent? What has more upside? Little John's Deli on the UVA corner that's currently vacant

or the Blue Moon Diner that's been vacant for now, pretty extended period of time on West Main Street. They are within one mile of each other, probably less than a mile of each other, and they are two of the most visible and sexy locations for rent and food and beverage right now. Little John's or Blue Moon Diner. What's the better spot to rent? We'll talk about that today. We will talk on today's show an opportunity on Jefferson Park Avenue, a 24-bed

apartment building that's for sale and asking price of 2.8 million. I want to highlight that on the program. I want to celebrate Sam Brunel, the William Monroe High School graduate, the basketball standout who started her collegiate basketball career at Notre Dame, then transferred to the University of Virginia, a local legend, one of the best women's basketball players to come out of public schools in the Commonwealth of Virginia. She had a cup of coffee across the pond in Europe playing professional basketball overseas. Now Sam Brunel has been hired, ladies and gentlemen, by friend of the program, Tim Taylor, to coach as an assistant the Navy women's basketball team, the Naval Academy. Tim Taylor, a local legend, a Madison product,

once the head coach at Orange County High School. I believe he coached at Madison County High School as well. He's the women's basketball coach at the Naval Academy. He has hired Sam Brunel as an assistant coach. Goodness gracious, what a fantastic story I want to talk about today. I want to remind the viewers and listeners that we have two big-time interviews coming up and we're working on a third. On Thursday of this week, Jerry Cox will join us. He's the head of the Lewis Mountain Neighborhood Association and he is the ringleader.

He's an attorney that is opposing Evergreen Builders, Evergreen Development and their pursuit of six luxury brownstones on Alderman Road, the site of a brick rancher. Evergreen purchased this brick rancher about a year ago for $800 and some thousand dollars and their plan was to build six luxury brownstones there, each of them trading or asking north of a million dollars for purchase. Nothing has happened at this Alderman Road construction site.

Literally nothing. And Jerry Cox, the head of the Lewis Mountain HOA, will update us on what's transpired, what he says Evergreen has done, and the intersection of the new zoning ordinance and a prestigious prominent neighborhood, Lewis Mountain. Next week, ladies and gentlemen, on Thursday, June 19th, the team from Seville Smash, the indoor pickleball facility in the old Marshall's location on 29 is gonna join us in studio to give us an update on where Seville Smash stands

from a grand opening standpoint. We'll talk the economics of an indoor pickleball facility on June 19th. We are also efforting an interview, working on a date to schedule it with Richard Price and Roger Voizena, the developer and architect, the team behind a project in the Wollin Mills neighborhood

where they are looking to take a small piece of property that has a kind of run down house and position it in a completely different way, ladies and gentlemen. Wollin Mills court is what they are calling it. And they have professionals, Richard Price, the architect and planner, Daniel Hire, the Sievel engineer, Mike Sadler, the home builder of Charlottesville area builders, Brian Ray of Roger Ray surveyors and Roger Voisenet as the lead developer on this project. It's a pretty special project. So we're looking at setting that interview up. The show is busy. It's very pretty special project. So we're looking at setting that interview

up. Shows busy. It's very busy. The water cooler of Charlottesville and central Virginia. It's our program. It's the I Love Seaville Network. Judah Wickower, a studio camera and then a two shot. I ask you the question, which headline intrigued you the most and why? And then I want to give some props to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and our division Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and our division Charlottesville Business Brokers that is absolutely crushing it right now. Which headline most intrigues you and why, Judah Wichower? I'm definitely interested in the discussion about what's going on outside the CIVA Cannabis

Club and what needs to be done to prevent something like this from happening again since obviously 30 shells. I would regard us as being incredibly lucky that there was only one person critically injured. One person critically injured. One person was critically injured but it could have been so much worse. This could have been a mass shooting. Yeah I don't use those words lightly. Friday night into Saturday morning next to the public library, we may have had a mass shooting on our hands, ladies and gentlemen. 30 shells on the ground. Next to a public library. Right in downtown Charlottesville. We'll talk about that on today's show. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, 61 years in business. John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion. The Vermillion family is four generations out of Morrill County. Their location is on East High Street, online

at Charlottesville sanitary supply.com. Charlottesville sanitary supply is where you get your sanitary supply needs period. Communicative, full of integrity, full of honor, full of knowledge and education. John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion at Charlottesville sanitary supply, they are doing business the right way, the honest way. We will also highlight our division, Charlottesville Business Brokers. Judith, you can highlight that on screen. Charlottesville Business Brokers has done some big‑time deals of late, more than 4 million in transaction over the last 24 months, guys, including the transaction of Great Harvest, including some deals we are not able to talk about on the show

because of the non‑disclosure agreements. Charlottesville business brokers, if you need a buyer, sell a business. If you're looking to exit a business, if you're looking to purchase something, reach out to us. We have buyers that are approved with cash on hand and we have sellers eager to exit and to continue with their life from a retirement standpoint. Charlottesville business brokers. The lead of the show has got to be a headline that should scare the bejeebus out of all of us. And it's made its way around social media by now, Reddit and Facebook. Ladies and gentlemen, at 1.26 in the morning, Friday night into Saturday morning, police officers, CPD on foot patrolling the downtown mall,

heard gunshots coming and immediately sprinted to 3rd Street, Northeast. This is next to the public library, across the street from Fleury. Across the street from where the Salad Maker used to be, the soul food joint used to be, and right next to the Charlottesville Cannabis Club. And when police arrived, they found a 25-year-old male who was in critical condition. Immediately, this male was transported to the University of Virginia Medical Center.

In fact, before he was transported, the police rendered aid to the University of Virginia Medical Center. In fact, before he was transported, the police rendered aid to the victim while trying to secure the crime scene from a large crowd of people that were on site. As the male is transported to the medical center where he is at this time in critical condition, police at the scene located 30 bullet shells, 30 bullet casings on the ground. An unoccupied building was hit. I'm curious if that's the public library. What is the unoccupied building that was hit? And three vehicles were struck by gunfire.

Police are asking businesses, landlords and personnel in the area of the 200th to 400th block of East Market Street, which is right here, the 100th to 300th block of 3rd Street Northeast and the 200th to 400th block of Jefferson Street if they have surveillance footage to get it to police officer Detective Cundiff at 434-970-3373. The whole point of this show is to go beyond headlines. The headline is large party, Friday night into Saturday morning, outside a cannabis club next to the public library, some kind of brouhaha breaks out, guns on the scene, we don't know if it's one gun, multiple guns, we don't know if it's a hand gun, a

pistol, a semi automatic gun. We also don't know, I think it should be stated, whether or not the gun shots came from anyone at the block party. There's a lot of questions that need to be answered here. Was it a drive by shooting? Did the gun shots come from someone at the block party? Did the gun shots, were they tied to a member of the cannabis club? Was it someone driving by and spraying people with bullets? Was it a semi automatic or automatic gun of some kind? Was it a gun that was just shot in the air to scare people? Was it guns shot at the crowd of people with intentionality?

A lot of questions here. Questions that should be asked. I'm sure Chief Kotchess will answer these questions. It's an active investigation here. Our job on this show, the water cooler of conversation for central Virginia with every media outlet in town watching us right now literally is to go beyond the headline and to ask the tough questions. Okay? And one of the tough questions for me sitting in this chair, because I know the owner of the cannabis club, his name is Matt Long, also owns the fast mart that's tied to Dirty Nellies, the convenience store tied to Dirty Nellies on Jefferson Park Avenue. He's an entrepreneur, has his hands in a number of things. He is a good guy. I

hope Matt hears what I'm saying. I've known Matt for a long time, had beers with Matt. He is a good guy. He is a savvy business person. He is a man that is incredibly pro cannabis. He is a man who you do some research on him online. You'll find his father was in the cannabis business a generation ago when if you were in the cannabis business a generation, you faced a really hard time. You faced years, if not longer, in jail. So cannabis is in this guy's blood. He created a beer in cahoots or in conjunction with Three Notch, fantastic beer that was on tap for a while.

He is a serial entrepreneur who understands business. I have positive things to say about Matt. I hope he hears this. I will say that the Charlottesville Cannabis Club on 3rd Street, this is not the first time that Judah trouble has brewed here. First time that trouble has bubbled here, pun intended. First time that trouble has sparked here. First time that Charlottesville has been ‑‑ that trouble has been enjoyed here. There's been smoke here before. And there will continue to be. And I think it's premature to point at the Charlottesville cannabis club and say that what happened was because of that. Was because of the club. If you read through some of the discussion going on around what happened. There's much more involved than just

a bunch of rowdy people at a cannabis club shooting guns in the air. And I think people need to keep an open mind about what's going on here. There's talk of ‑‑ there's talk of a lot of cars getting ‑‑ having their windows smashed. This was later, not during this. The point being that there ‑‑ we know there are groups out there that go around shooting guns. It's happened outside the Omni. It's happened on the downtown mall.

And none of it that we're aware of has any connection to any of the cannabis clubs. If there was a group that was out smashing windows and stealing from people's cars and I've seen other posts of people talking about their window getting smashed and stuff getting stolen, if there are people out there doing that, they may have run afoul of this group of people at a block party. The point being we don't know the details and to jump to conclusions is not going to help anyone. Okay. Fair point. He talks about the smash and grabs that happen on 3rd Street. The smash and grabs right now, we are not sure

if they're tied to the gunfire. It was later in the weekend, much later in the weekend than the 30 gunshots and the man critically injured, there was smashing grabs in the same street of 3rd Street where folks were bashing windows and ransacking cars. So we do not know if they are linked at all. It did happen within a weekend's time, maybe 24 or 36 hours of time amongst the two. And to Judah's point, we do not know if this is tied to the cannabis club. It's an important caveat. What we do know is with the cannabis club, and you can see it as early as Friday afternoon when you're happy hour or

Punch out time on Friday afternoon the four o'clock hour. It starts you start seeing folks individuals Congregating outside the cannabis club. It's a private club the Cannabis Club. It's a private club. The loophole in the law and the Commonwealth is you're allowed to smoke weed if you're doing it in a private setting. You're allowed to smoke weed in a private setting. You're allowed to give other people weed in a private setting. You're allowed to do things in a private setting, buying and selling some weed. Okay? Frankly speaking, authorities are, you know, turning a blind eye to cannabis. Rightfully so.

Okay, I'll say rightfully so, too. I routinely in our perch in downtown Charlottesville on Market Street see folks like literally roasting a blunt, enjoying a blunt, walking up and down Market Street in front of the police station. You as well? Yeah, yeah. You smell it sometimes. You see people walking around with what's obviously not a cigarette. Smoking a joint, smoking a blunt, and jointing a blunt all the time in downtown Charlottesville. You see it at times at the alfresco dining on the mall and nothing materializes there. I will say this, here's the intriguing cross-section or maybe the red flag. When does a private club become a public nuisance? When does a

private club become an issue for the community safety-wise? When does a private club become the epicenter of trouble? And how much responsibility do they bear for people acting out outside of the bounds of their business? Can a private club that charges a private membership fee pay a yearly fee to join a private club, then you have entry to our business and can smoke and enjoy your passions and what you'd like to pursue within our business. If those patrons of the private club, if those members, member is the word, if those members of the private club then go from outside the club to Third Street, the public road, and are congregating, smoking and drinking, listening to music, hanging out, how much is that the private club's responsibility?

How much is that local government or the police's responsibility? Right? If you're, I'll take it a step further, if you're on the downtown mall and you're on the downtown mall and you're enjoying beers, wine, cocktails, you're ripping shots on the downtown mall and you're doing it in a business and then you leave that business and go to the downtown mall itself, which is public, and cause trouble on the downtown mall which is public is the business that over served or got the troublemakers inebriated responsible for the behavior of the customers who left the business and then went to the public space and caused trouble now I think there are laws absolutely their

laws over serving serving hundred percent laws about over serving people. Absolutely there are laws about over serving people. 100% there are over serving laws. And strangely enough, there are actual laws about drinking outside of, you know, drinking on the street, on the sidewalk. Which is happening on Third Street. And maybe happening in a red solo cup, but it's happening on 3rd Street.

And there's often been this, I don't know if it's a gentleman's agreement or I don't know what you would call it, an overlook, some grace when a man or a woman chooses to consume alcohol and that alcohol is hidden in a brown paper bag or that alcohol is hidden in a red solo cup, it's not an open container, it's maybe hidden or it could be an open container in a brown paper bag, you often see the police choosing to look away or beyond what that person is doing at the time. I think in most cases that's probably the right thing to do. In most cases, you know, people aren't, you don't have groups of hundreds of people getting trashed

and, you know, and busting windows and tossing trash cans or whatnot. So why, you know, why make a deal out of it? On the other hand, if that's what's starting to happen here, then maybe there needs to be some responsibility from the people that set these up. Rotate lower thirds on screen. There's three you should be rotating. Also highlight some of the trouble from this location in the past if you could.

I don't have a lot of details on past troubles, but there have been issues. I think there was somebody hurt a few years ago in a similar situation. Jason Howard watching the program on Rio Road. We've got every media outlet in town watching the program right now. Jason says every bar or brewery I visited with outdoor seating, Jason's photo on screen please. Every bar or brewery I visited with outdoor seating has a line and a sign saying no alcohol beyond this point.

They do this to inform patrons and protect their license. Howard or Noble? Jason Howard. alcohol beyond this point. They do this to inform patrons and protect their license. What? Jason Howard. Every bar or brewery I visited with outdoor seating has a line in sign saying no alcohol beyond this point, he says. They do this to inform patrons and protect their license. Do establishments serving marijuana have no responsibility to enforce the laws in a similar way? I don't have that answer. Vanessa Parkhill's photo on screen. Earleysville, Vanessa Parkhill. She says, this is so scary. I had people I care about on the mall on Friday night and into Saturday morning. Had no idea this took place. Thank

you for keeping me in the loop about what's going on in this town. She also adds, Vanessa Parkhill, I get some of your points about legalizing and taxing cannabis. However, how has that worked out in those states that led to the charge on the West Coast, the change on the West Coast? Jason Novel asked the questions that we're asking. Any idea on what type of firearm was used? I'd love to know what type of firearm was used. If I had to guess, I would say that those 30 shell casings were not from one weapon. 100%. I would find it hard to believe. My next question, I agree it's not one weapon.

My next question is were there multiple weapons? My next question is, is this some kind of semi or automatic weapon of some kind? My next question is, was the gun shot at the air as a scare tactic? Obviously at one point it was not. My next, exactly, because someone was shot. My follow up question is, was it a drive by shooting? My follow up question to that was, did the people who do the shooting know who they were shooting? Was there intention with the shooting? My follow-up to that is, what building was struck? Was it the public library that was struck? My follow-up questions to that are, the person that was shot that's in critical condition right now is a member

of the Charlottesville Cannabis Club. right now is a member of the Charlottesville Cannabis Club. Are the shooters a member of the Charlottesville Cannabis Club? Yeah, I think that's a very good question. Are the shooters a member of the Charlottesville Cannabis Club? Is there any video footage downtown? These are the questions we all should be asking here, right? Yeah. John Blair watching the program on LinkedIn,

his photo on screen. I keep hearing the term block party being used to describe the gathering. Block parties are subject to the city's special event regulations. Do a search for block party in this document, and you'll see. So if this was a block party, was a permit issued, here's a link to the regulations.

And he shares a link on my LinkedIn in the comments section of block party and permit issued and what you can or cannot do. I don't want to speak for the Cannabis Club, but I have a hunch of what happened. No, this was not a city issued block party, a permitted block party. Rather, these were members in the club who spilled out of the club onto Third Street in front of the club and were fraternizing and socializing with nonmembers of the club in the outdoor Third Street location. And these members of the club and nonmembers of the club were fraternizing and socializing with each other next to the library and some kind of trouble broke out while people were smoking and drinking, listening to music,

and that trouble that broke out led to a gunfight. Led to a gunfight. And now we have to ask the question, what is the responsibility, culpability, accountability of private business and public safety? I'll say it again. And this is what traditional and legacy media should be reporting. Asking the questions I just did should be reporting, asking the questions I just did and dissecting or figuring out this answer. The responsibility, culpability, accountability of private business and their patrons or members and what they do later in a public setting. Because the reason I highlighted the over serving bar, a bar who chooses to over serve its patrons, if those patrons consume alcohol in a bar setting, they are over served and

then go and get in an accident, seriously injure themselves, seriously injure somebody else, that bar is liable for over serving those patrons. That bar is liable. And not only will we lose liquor license, booze license, face fines and potentially jail time, folks. Is that the same case with a private club? Is that the same case with cannabis where the rules are still wild west? The rules are very much Wild West right now. I mean, this is calls for concern for the community, ladies and gentlemen.

This is calls for concern for the community. Ginny Hu, watching the program, her photo on screen, she says marijuana already is everywhere and she calls it a public nuisance. That I have to smell it everywhere I go. Do whatever you want inside your residence or private club, but let the rest of us breathe outside in peace, Ginny Who says. She also says bars could be held accountable for over serving like Jerry is saying. This should apply to the wacky tabacky as well. Jason Noble's photo on screen. He said it was likely multiple weapons. Most semi auto pistols hold

12 to 15 rounds so there would have to be a reload if it was just one dumbass. Probably a multiple dumbass scenario. Also, you know, thank God, okay, I'm going to say this. You shoot 30 bullets or you have 30 bullet shells on the ground. 30 bullet shells on the ground. No one dead and only one person seriously injured. Are you a terrible shot? Are you the worst shot ever? Thank God you're the worst shot ever. I could make some jokes but I don't think ‑‑ I don't think they're fair here. Usually I'm the one putting my foot in my mouth here and you're the voice of reason. I'm not going to. But yeah, you're 100% right.

30 shots and only one person injured, no one dead. No other people injured. With a black party going on, that could have been terrible. This could have been a mass shooting. You agree with that? Yeah, 100%. I have to imagine that the gun was not pointed at the crowd. So you think it's pointed in the air? I don't know. We don't know anything about it. Or was it a drive‑by shooting?

If it was a drive‑by shooting, it probably would have had to have been a ‑‑ If it was a drive‑by shooting it would have had to be the car driving down Fourth Street ‑‑ excuse me, Market Street, shooting as it's driving down Market Street down Third Street. I mean, it could have been, but those 30 shell casings being in one place kind of indicates that it probably wasn't a drive‑by shooting. Okay, I'm with you. And Also you would have had to have everybody in that car pointing guns out the window firing at the same time or one of them would have had to have an Uzi. How do you get 30 shots fired in while you're driving by? Logistically it doesn't make a

whole lot of sense. That's just the 30 casings they found. There's likely way more than that. There's some comments on Reddit right now that patrons that average Joes and average Josies who were walking in downtown Charlottesville on 3rd Street the next day found shell casings and called police and told them about it. Those comments are circulating on Reddit now that there were additional casings found. This happened as bars were being let out in Charlottesville. Do you understand that, folks? This happened as bars had called last call and as patrons were leaving bars in downtown Charlottesville.

And this is happening as Charlottesville is trying to put together a plan for the 50‑year anniversary of the downtown mall. This could not happen at a worse time. At the 50‑year anniversary for downtown Seaville. Where Sam Sanders is openly asking the public and talking about with city council how do we use taxpayer money, a million dollars plus, to beautify or to safety-fy or better-fy the downtown mall ahead of the 50‑year celebration. Think about that, ladies and gentlemen. Well, you want to make the 50‑year celebration special, make sure that people don't get oozed.

There's the first step. You disagree? It's easy to say, but most of the gun violence we've seen in the city is is not directed at large groups of people. Chief Cotcher straight-up said on the show when he joined us on the I Love Civil show respect the man tremendously the George Clooney of policing that it's 20 to 30 knuckleheads that are committing the gun the gun crime in Charlottesville and Amarillo County. Yeah he said it's not that many people. He said 20 to 30 knuckleheads. The big problem. And there's really no way to, I mean, barring tracking all those people down and locking

them up during the 50 year anniversary, the police are doing an admirable job and I think if they had anything on those guys, they would have brought them in. And so there's not really any way to prevent gun violence. I don't agree with that. Okay. Give me a scenario. Gun buyback programs prevent gun violence. Tougher enforcement from the Commonwealth Attorney's Office and judges prevent gun violence. Not letting the Naim Hills of the world out of jail after they brutally attack other

inmates. Then Naim Hill leads the Charlottesville Police Department, the University Police Department, the Almore County Police Department on a wild goose chase manhunt. So tougher court enforcement prevents gun violence. Those are all good tools. Education prevents gun violence. Rehabilitation infrastructure and education and resources prevents gun violence. How much of the gun violence is tied to the Charlottesville redevelopment and housing authority? And is CRHA doing the best it can with vetting its applicants and its tenants and renters?

And if its applicants, tenants and renters are associated with gun violence, the CRHA, immediately evicting them of their housing prevents gun violence because they can't live here. Okay? That's half a dozen ways you prevent gun violence off the top of my head without even thinking about it. Those are all good tools. Those are answers. Those are solutions.

But you realize they don't stop someone from shooting a gun, right? How do you shoot a gun if you're in jail, Judah? How do you shoot a gun if the judge presiding over your case doesn't offer leniency when it's tied to gun violence and says, no, you're going to do the full extent of your sentence and I'm not going to offer you grace or patience. You're terrorizing the community. You're in jail, Naim Hill. How does that not prevent gun violence? »» That may prevent one instance of gun violence. »» Okay. So it prevents gun violence.

»» I agreed with you that it does, Jerry. I'm not sure why you're angry. »» I'm not angry. I think ‑‑ »» These are all good tools. »» The approach that you're ‑‑ okay These are all good tools. The approach that you're taking, go ahead. They don't stop other people that haven't been caught yet from firing guns. The approach that you're taking is the approach that you and I, that I get frustrated with you from time to time when working in the business here, where it's not a solutions oriented approach. It's saying a solutions-oriented approach.

It's saying these things don't work. We don't have a clear-cut answer. The business person— I've never said they don't work. I've said multiple times now that those are all wonderful tools that help prevent gun violence. The business person in me— But you cannot bring the incidence of gun violence to zero—

The business person in me— —losing those tools. the incidents of gun violence to zero. The business person in me is exhausted with the approaches of can't and don't do or these won't work before they're tried. If I wanted to improve safety in a community and I knew it was to his chief consciousness words 25 to 30 individuals 25 to 30 people chief consciousness words on this show that are creating the gun violence in Charlottesville and Almarra County 25 to 30 people are terrorizing Charlottesville and Almarra County in my eyes you, common sense would be these 25 to 30, you give them the gun buyback option first,

you give them the gun education first, the second step, Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing Authority, how many are renting in CRHA properties, you then evict them, so they're clear they're not welcome here to live and if they're continuing to commit crime tied to guns, the Commonwealth attorney and the judge presiding over the case must realize and I think Joe Plantania does this, I think Jim Hingley does this, I wonder if the judges do this, that it's the extent of the term, the sentence that

must be actualized. No grace, no patience. You use guns, you go to jail, and it's the entire term. It's 25 to 30 people. His words, not mine. And the reason I'm passionate about this is because I literally, during the show here, saw someone tied to Charlottesville police

taking inventory of what cameras are shooting down Market Street for surveillance footage. And I know outside my building that there is a camera that I'm going to have to get involved with this, gladly will do, and provide any footage possible. But it's ‑‑ this is causing terror. It's terror that this causes. Yeah. Georgia Gilmer, her photo on screen. About 10 years when I lived in the Greenleaf neighborhood, a car came through the neighborhood

and in about 10 seconds shot over 30 casings down the street. One car may have been hit. It was suspected they fired straight up in the air and it was related to gang initiation. Jason Noble says we need more consequences for bad behavior. Amen. Barbara Becker-Tilly, better access to mental health prevents gun violence and you will never bring gun violence to zero. The point Jude is making.

Mental health is another one that should be included. I'll close the topic before we go to the next topic on the show with this. This is what the questions that should be asked. And help me fill in the gaps. Okay? and help me fill in the gaps, okay? How do you have a block party on 3rd Street without a permit? The Charlottesville Cannabis Club, how many people in the block party on 3rd Street were actual members? How many people were non-members? The person that got struck by bullets that's in critical condition, is he a Cannabis Club

member or nonmember? Fourth question. Are the shooters shooter or shooters Cannabis Club members or nonmembers? Fifth question. Sixth question. Was there one gun used or two guns used? Seventh question. Was this a semi-automatic or automatic gun of any kind?

That's the seventh question. Eighth question, was the public library hit? What unoccupied building was hit? Ninth question, the break ins with the vehicles where windows were smashed and cars were ransacked within a 24 hour period after this gun violence. Was that tied to the gun violence? Tenth question I'm asking here. What are the laws and regulations for the over‑serving nature of a private weed club and are they similar to a bar where if you over‑serve patrons and then they go and get in trouble in the public setting, does that bartender or does that bar owner, are they culpable and accountable?

That's my 10th question. My 11th question, if there is a string of trouble associated with one private business, how is that private business managed or held accountable? That's my 11th question. These are questions the community should be asking. And these are questions that a police chief who has done an amazing job, Chief Koch is going to do an amazing job, and I have no doubt that the Charlottesville Police Department is going to figure out who did this shooting. And I have no doubt that they're going to arrest him, and then it's going to be up to the Commonwealth's attorney

and to the courts to figure it out. I have no doubt that's going to happen. But these are questions that should be asked of the police chief and the police chief would say, I know the man, you're right, these questions should be asked. He would say you are 100% right we should answer these questions. The community has a right to know. And if I'm Hall Spencer, who's a fantastic investigative reporter, Mike Barber of CBO right now, the editor in chief, anybody else that's on this beat with NBC 29 and CBS 19 and they're all watching the program right now, those are the questions that I would ask, write them down.

Anything you want to add before we go to the next topic? No, those are good questions. And I appreciate your feedback 100%. I get passionate about this, not anything personal to you as you know. I know. It's terror and I'm tired of terror. I'm tired of the terror. Especially what? Right before the 50-year anniversary of the mall and the heartbeat of downtown Charlottesville? Yeah, especially 100, 200 feet from Main Street

on the downtown mall. Something that could have been a mass shooting. We could have woken up on Saturday morning and read about a mass shooting. Next topic on a passion edition of the I Love Seville show, Judah Wickauer put the headlines on screen. What is the next topic by the way? Better spot to rent.

Barbara Becker-Tilley says, those are answers the Charlottesville police will never provide to the general public. And I appreciate Barbara Becker-Tilley's comments. I think we should add her to the family. Barbara Becker-Tilley, her photo when you can. Barbara Becker-Tilley, great comments. We appreciate you watching the show Barbara.

Thank you for watching the show. Thank you for your comments. We appreciate you watching the show, Barbara. Thank you for watching the show. Thank you for your comments. You're a fantastic addition to the program. I respectfully, respectfully disagree with you, Barbara Becker-Tilly. I think Chief Cotches is a man that would 100% communicate what he can communicate during an investigation without compromising the investigation because he values the trust and he values the positives that come with communication. Chief Cotchis understands the role the media plays with informing the public of what's going on and the value that communication provides from a trust standpoint and a relationship standpoint with his police department. Next headline is what?

Better place to rent. What is the better, I mean it's so crazy to talk about this after what could have been a mass shooting, but the show must go on. Judah, Little John's or Blue Moon Diner, a better spot to rent and why from your standpoint? I would say Blue Moon Diner is far better. It lacks the seasonality of students coming and going.

I think, I don't know how many people, but I'm sure some people are, what's the word I'm looking for, some people probably don't like heading to the corner. When the students are in town, there's traffic, it's tough to park. It's far easier to find a place to park on Main Street, either across the street or behind Blue Moon Diner. And it's just far more central. I respect his answer. I agree with him. I'll push back on that. I also think Blue Moon Diner is a better spot to rent than Little John's. Blue Moon Diner's last day in business was November 27th. It's been vacant for December, it's been vacant for January, for February,

for March, for April, for May, and now we're into June. It's been vacant for basically six and a half months. If it's a better spot to rent than Little John's, why are we now approaching seven months of vacancy for Blue Moon Diner on West Main Street? It's a good question. I would need more information. I don't know how much the property owner is asking for in rent. I don't know how many restaurants have been started in that time frame. Maybe there's just not a place that's someone currently looking for a place of that size, that shape, that whatever. It's hard to say. All right. A follow‑up question to that. You and I are in agreement that Blue Moon Diner is a better spot to rent than Little John's. Right?

Which spot will rent first? Blue Moon Diner or Little John's. Because a better spot to rent is not necessarily which spot will rent first. Right. And it may not be the best spot for whoever is looking for a place to open a new restaurant. You're right. And given that, you know, I'm ‑‑ I almost think that the little John spot will rent first. I think you're all over this. I think the little John spot rents first. I think the little John spot rents first because it's the UVA corner and the UVA corner is like you open up a cereal box, you pour some lucky charms into into your cereal, and when you're able to get a spoon in that bowl of milk and you pull out, you're hoping for some Lucky Charms,

the Little John's on the corner is the Pot of Gold or the Four Leaf Clover, the favorite Lucky Charm. It's the favorite one. Blue Moon Diner doesn't have the sex appeal of running a spot on the UVA corner. I think Little John's rents first before Blue Moon Diner. I think Blue Moon Diner is a better spot to rent than Little John's for what Judah said. There's seasonality with the UVA corner. A perfect example of that is raising canes. Raising canes choosing to take a hiatus for the entire summer. Kuma on Eliwood closing for the entire summer. The sushi joint sushi joint closing for the summer. Okay? Seasonality, you have to make your money in nine months on the UVA corner, probably eight because you're not making any money it looks like June, July and most of August and half

of December and half of January. So you have to make your money in eight months. You better be effing good at cash flow management when you only make money in eight months in your business. Blue Moon Diner does not have the seasonality. But I still think Little John's rents first. And I think both spaces are facing headwinds now with people looking to get into expensive long‑term personally guaranteeing leases and sexy Class A spots like Little John's at the Blue Moon Diner. That is a risk that some people may not have the appetite for right now. Next headline, what do you got? Georgia Gilmer, I appreciated you pushing back on Matthew Gillican, the co‑chair of Liveable Charlottesville when Gillican was

trying to share his Liveable Charlottesville newsletter on the Charlottesville vet and now group, you push back on the share of that newsletter, the promotion of that newsletter and Georgia Gilmer you did good. The community needs to push back on Liveable Seaville and say enough already. You're not making the community better by what you're policying and lobbying for. Next headline, what do you got? 24‑bed apartment building for sale on JPA. You have those photos? I've got some photos, yeah. Put the exterior photo on screen. This is a unique opportunity, ladies and gentlemen. 2108 Jefferson Park Avenue, $2,800,000 asking price. 24 beds, 12 bathrooms. $2,800,000 asking price. It's a six‑plex

adjacent to UVA, all brick apartment complex. Six units that are on ‑‑ six units that are each four bedrooms. Two baths. Spacious kitchen and a breakfast bar. 2108 Jefferson Park Avenue, $2,800,000 asking price. If you're interested in this opportunity, DM me, reach out to me. Very unique opportunity. 0.29 acres. 24 beds, 12 baths, fully leased, Jefferson Park Avenue. If you're looking to get into multifamily with some upside, this has upside, ladies and gentlemen. Reach out to me if you're interested. Judah Wickhauer, next headline.

What do you got? Next, we've got Naval Academy hire. William Monroe High School graduate Sam Brunel, who started her career, guys, at Norder Dame, one of the most decorated basketball players in Virginia High School League basketball history, one of the most talented female basketball players to come out of the Commonwealth of Virginia ever. She played on multiple junior national USA basketball teams.

McDonald's All-American, the number six overall prospect in the class of 2019. Played at Notre Dame coming out of high school. Transferred to the University of Virginia. Then played overseas professional basketball, had a cup of coffee across the pond. Tim Taylor, a local legend. Head coach of Orange County High School at one time. Madison County High School boys basketball at one time. Tim Taylor, now the head coach of Orange County High School at one time, Madison County High School boys

basketball at one time, Tim Taylor, now the head coach of the Naval Academy. He has hired Sam Brunel as an assistant coach. Sam Brunel was transitioning from professional basketball and a media career, broadcasting career, to coaching at the Naval Academy. Fantastic hire for Tim Taylor. Friend of the program. Know Tim Taylor well. San Bruno you cannot have picked a better coach to learn the coaching profession from. Tim Taylor knows coaching like the Pope knows holy water. Tim Taylor knows coaching like Judah knows cardigan sweaters and the dog days of summer here in Charlottesville. Tim Taylor knows coaching like yours truly knows IPAs. Is that fair? I guess. Well done, Sam Brunel. Well done, Tim Taylor. And the story of a

local legend, Sam Brunel, continues under the guidance of another local legend and Tim Taylor at a prestigious university, the Naval Academy. I absolutely love this story. Programming notes, ladies and gentlemen, this week on Thursday, June 12th, Jerry Cox, the head of the Lewis Mountain Neighborhood Association, will join us to talk about the six brownstones, luxury brownstones that have not been built on Alderman Road and what the Lewis Mountain neighborhood has done to keep that development from happening.

Next week, 19th of June, the team behind Seaville Smash, the Pickleball facility, will join us in studio to talk about their project at the old Marshall's location. And currently we are efforting an interview with Roger and Richard Price. In fact Roger says he can do the interview. Wednesday June 18th, the team behind the Woolen Mills court, they have been working on a small development project in Woolen Mills, ladies and gentlemen. Interviews left and right. The I Love Seville show is humming.

I remind any viewer and listener, if you're looking for office space in Charles, there's no one that has more than yours truly. Office space, executive office space, price points from $350 all the way up to $1,000 plus. DM me, email me, text me, call me if you need office space and we'll find you a good fit. Judah Wickower, Jerry Miller, the I Love Seville Show on a Monday afternoon..