The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Hoos Humiliate Hokies; Claim Commonwealth Cup; Wahoo Nation Finds Sweet Redemption With Victory

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good Tuesday morning, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the Jerry and Jerry show. It's an absolute pleasure to connect with you guys on the I Love Seville Network on a show that spotlights a household name. Jerry Rackleaf, Hooty, as he's known from, I'd say, Maine to South Florida, from the eastern shore to San Diego. This man knows media like the Pope knows Holy Water, and he's followed Virginia basketball and Virginia football for a couple of generations, ladies and gentlemen. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast today,
Starting point is 00:00:40 including the Who's humiliating, hammering the Hokies to capture claim the Commonwealth Cup. I'm a huge fan of alliteration, if you haven't realized right this. I learned some of these tactics and tricks from Jerry Rackleff while sitting next to him at the Daily Progress. I was on my crappy little cubicle next to him, which he had the prime cubicle space of the newsroom. And I look over in his cubicle, and his cubicle is completely lined with awards and accolades, while mine was lined with the Agate schedule in the 1 a.m. shift.
Starting point is 00:01:15 But that's what you do to break into the business. I took a lot of phone calls for the volleyball coaches, for the Aggot Square. And I loved Agate. That was one of my favorite parts of the sports page. In fact, the part that I went to, why don't we get Hootieie? Ratcliffe on the show here. The part I usually went to first during the sports page was page two. The box scores, the standings.
Starting point is 00:01:34 People used to eat. I love that. That scoreboard page. Scoreboard page. Yeah. Not just here, but all around the country. I think people love the scoreboard page. I don't think the average Joe or the average Jennifer understands what agate is, but it was the box score page. Yeah. It's all the standings,
Starting point is 00:01:50 box scores, statistics. It was awesome. Yeah. It was awesome. and I had to break in doing even worse stuff. I know you did. I know you did. You should tell them how you broke into the business. I would love to hear this. Oh, well, you know, I'd never planned on being a sports writer.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I wanted to be a football coach. And the sports editor in my hometown was one-man sports staff, and he needed some help. And he asked me to go cover an event. I had no idea what that. to do. And he said, well, you know sports. I said, yeah. And he said, because you played sports. He said, you know how to write. You're in college, right? You should be able to write something. I said, yeah, I guess so. So I tried it out. It came out pretty good. He liked it. Part-time for him. But while I was part-time, the newspaper asked me to do a lot of other things
Starting point is 00:02:46 that I didn't really want to do. But it helped my education. I covered The police beat some. I covered a woman's flower club meeting. I covered a plane crash in the mountains and helped carry the dead body out of the mountains. Really? I didn't know that. Covered a murder trial. So I had a pretty wide resume, I guess, coming into before the full-time sports popped up.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I even had to do the horror scope. Sometimes I would mess with that a little bit. I didn't ruin anybody's life. I did not. You got to, as a cub reporter when you were breaking to the business, how do you carry a dead body? Did you say out of the mountains?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Is that what you said? Yeah. You got to tell me that story. Yeah. I was in Southwest Virginia and there was a single, there was a plane missing, a single,
Starting point is 00:03:47 I was just a pilot and nobody else in it. And a photographer of mine who knew the mountains a lot more than I did said we need to go and he says you're going to have to report this there's nobody else available so me and the photographer took off got to the mountain had to climb through brush up
Starting point is 00:04:10 up the mountain a couple miles the game warden was there and state police was there and they they got the body out of the plane and he'd been there for several days so it was in the wintertime if I recall it was cold state police refused to carry him down the mountain so they put him on a makeshift stretcher which was not very sturdy it's essentially two poles and a canvas and And the three of us, which was really hard for three people to carry a stretcher instead of four,
Starting point is 00:05:02 the game warden and the photographer and myself carried the guy down the mountain, downhill, through the brush, no trail, a couple miles. I was really hacked off because I had just bought a brand new English fog coat. I didn't have a lot of money in those days, and I was really proud of that coat. And the guy's hand kept falling off of the stretcher, and blood was getting all over my coat and ruined the coat. So that was my one experience with a plane crash. And now you're a Virginia Sports Hall of Famer. If memory serves correct, is it 51 or 52 ACC tournaments on the near horizon for you?
Starting point is 00:05:51 One of those. 51 or 52? I lose count. He's got a huge weekend in Charlotte this weekend. He's got an incredibly busy week. Viewers and listeners, listen to the life of a content creator, Jerry Rackleff of Jerry Rackleff.com. Give him a snapshot of your schedule this week.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Well, today we go from here to the interview Virginia players for the week over at the Football Center, the Hardy Football Center. and then we interview the coordinators after that. Then tomorrow is National Signing Day over there. Basketball game tomorrow night, Virginia versus Texas in the SEC shootout. At the moment, I don't think there's anything scheduled for Thursday, and I'll knock on wood. So might have time to breathe. Friday, there's a press conference, football press conference in Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Saturday at noon, there's a basketball game with Dayton at noon. in Charlotte, and followed by the championship game at 8 o'clock. Unbelievable. It's a busy week. It's that beautiful time of year when football and basketball overlap, and there's no better time a year with overlapping sports than right now, as both Virginia football and Virginia basketball are showing promise the football team at the pinnacle, at the summit, and an opportunity to head into uncharted territory, the college football playoff, and I don't want to put
Starting point is 00:07:18 the cart before the horse. Yes, the Duke Blue Devils are on the very near horizon. An ACC championship clash nationally televised ballgame. It's an 8 o'clock kick on ABC on a neutral site in Charlotte. And it's a big-time ballgame, folks. The Devils wheezzled their way into the ACC championship. Coach Diaz kind of standing up for his Dukies saying, we belong here. The rest of the country is saying, no way, Jose.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Virginia certainly belongs there at 10 and 2.0.2. overall. Hootie, the line open at 2.5, UVA favored. It's moved as of this morning, depending on where you shot, to 3 and a half. The old adage is it's difficult to beat a team twice. I get that. A cliche.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I certainly, as a Virginia fan, rather face Duke than the SMU ponies, however. I agree. I think SMU's a more dangerous team because they're multifaceted as opposed to Duke, which is fairly one-dimensional. They have to
Starting point is 00:08:19 throw the ball to win, and Virginia did a great job of shutting that down last time. They held the guy to 100 yards less than his average per game. And Duke just couldn't run the ball. Mani Diaz said in the teleconference Sunday night that we had with him that we really struggled to block Virginia's front because those guys are really good. And that's going to be highlighted in a story I have on the defense should be posted already, but I don't think it is. The Coach Diaz highlights in a presser
Starting point is 00:08:56 while stating out for the Duke football team that the contest against UVA in Durham was Duke's worst showing of the year. Yeah. Where UVA absolutely manhandles the Dukies on home turf. Let's talk about the Virginia Tech game. Goodness gracious, the tone was set from the opening drive
Starting point is 00:09:18 with an interception and from there Virginia stepped on Virginia Tech's throat and Tony Elliott if he wanted to could have run this score up he chose to instead call off the dogs I want to show and I'm going to dig a little bit here the class displayed by Tony Elliott without running up the score versus the lack of class we've seen from Virginia Tech in the past with running up the score there was a start contrast there with character and class, and I'll leave it at that. Scatter shooting this game, where do you want to begin? The Cam Robinson commentary is something that folks are asking for, but anywhere you want to go in the Virginia and Virginia Tech matchup? Yeah, you know, we said all
Starting point is 00:10:05 week that Virginia Tech couldn't throw the football, and they were pretty much a one-dimensional team, and the drone was, drones was not a good passer, and John Rogensky and his staff certainly knew that and took full advantage of it. Still, they had to deal with Tech's running game, which was the number two rushing offense in the ACC, shut them down very well. And that Tech almost refused to throw it because I guess they just knew they couldn't.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Until drones completed that pass for a touchdown against Virginia's subs late in the game. He was only three of 15 passing, Jerry, for 21 yards before that pass. Virginia's defense did such a good job. They held tech to seven consecutive three-in-outs, which is the most that anybody's done against a Virginia Tech team since 1989. Just incredible stuff that Coach Rudd and his crew managed to put up in that game. And that was, the defense is playing phenomenal football.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, they took away Duke's strengths. They took away tech strengths. They've dominated, even in the wake and the cow game, they dominated. It wasn't on them that they lost the wake game. So the defense had been spectacular. Spectacular defense, absolutely. And Virginia's defense is going to have to play well against Duke. We have to highlight injuries on defense and backups or second stringers filling the place of now legends, stars, a middle linebacker.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And why don't you begin with some commentary there? It was disheartened to see one of Virginia's best players, if not his best player, Virginia's best player, out for the rest of the season. Yeah, I mean, it was, it's a shame that Cam Robinson couldn't be around to enjoy the fruits of his labor, so to speak. He's by far the best football player on this team and someone who is a game wrecker. And this is the time of year that a player like that flourishes. And it's just a shame that he suffered in ACL and is missing the rest of the game. the season. Things like that happen, and to Virginia's credit, and I'm not sure that Virginia's
Starting point is 00:12:53 not the only team that has the next man up mentality, but they've done a really good job with that. They haven't dropped off drastically at any spot this season, and that's, I hate to keep harping on this, but that's because they did an incredible job in the portal of building their depth all over the field. and Maddox, Marcellus, I think they call him Dog or Mad Dog, has done a good job of stepping in to the lineback roll. He had an interception the other night against Tech,
Starting point is 00:13:29 and then Landon Danley has been solid. They've just got so many guys that it's incredible, the way that Coach Rudd is able to rotate these players. you know, against tech, because they dominated so much, they only had 47 snaps. They had to play. When you're rotating guys, as much as they are, everybody's fresh. And you're right, they could have run the score up.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I kind of say that I would have. Yeah, I wanted them to run up to score, frankly. But he wouldn't do it. So, you know, credit to him. Yeah, credit to him. I was hoping they would run up to score, frankly. I think most people would in that circumstance. Yeah, especially with some of the stuff that Virginia Tech has done in the past.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah. Especially two years ago. Right. When they came out after kicking the bejibis out of UVA, running up the score to dance and celebrate on the logo. Yeah. Because that was classless. Comments are coming in extremely quickly. Cliff Daisy's watching on the eastern shore.
Starting point is 00:14:33 He's got some comments. Stephanie Wells Rhodes has got some comments. Chad Wood says, Hootie will see you in Charlotte. He's going to make the trip. Stephanie and her family are going to make the trip. Chad Wood is a big-time football fan, a big-time, he's a football coach, frankly. He says he's shocked that the line is three and a half points right now. He's shocked that the line open at two and a half.
Starting point is 00:14:56 He thought it would be Virginia by seven and a half. I was also surprised it was two and a half to three and a half, but heck, Vegas keeps building casinos. Stephanie says this, wahoo-wah, I got just what I wanted. It was a great night, not crazy about putting the second string in. and letting them score, but I do understand why. I echo what Stephanie said. I felt the same. Cliff Daisy says, good morning, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's cold with driving rain on the eastern shore today. Cliff, that's very much how it is right now in downtown Charlottesville, two miles from Scott Stadium. Cliff also says, what a wonderful, what a wonderful game on Saturday night, the Who's were a Class Act. Would you touch on visitor prospects and those who have committed? We can talk recruiting here, signing day on the corner. Let's see. Also on YouTube, it's Cartel Bell, 7555 says Carl to Bell. Is there any hope for any of our players to return if we have a good bull run?
Starting point is 00:15:55 For example, Dakota Twitty would be huge. Shift God 137 says on YouTube, I'll be down in Charlotte this weekend. There's a deal for $81 for end zone lower bowl seats on the ACC website for Wahoo fans. All right. So a lot of Wahoo fans watching the show. shift guy 137 on the ACC website $81 lower bowl end zone tickets and he's encouraging many Virginia fans to buy them if you're watching on YouTube hammer the thumbs up button and subscribe to our channel hooty let's talk about Chandler Morris in that Virginia Tech game this team has an unquestioned leader and it's Chandler Morris oh without a doubt I mean without Chandler Morris they wouldn't they wouldn't be there there's no question about it he
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know, a lot of people gave him grief when he got here from North Texas last winter, I guess it was winter after the season anyway. And when he said that I didn't come all the way from Texas to Virginia not to win a championship and people were laughing at him. And he has the last laugh. He's been spectacular most of the year. solid the other night 21 of 35
Starting point is 00:17:14 182 yards so only sacked once no touchdowns but he also ran it four times for 29 yards and a touchdown he's just been the ultimate quarterback the ultimate leader
Starting point is 00:17:33 of a team and that's what you want from your quarterback he's a tough kid. We've talked about his football IQ and just his overall passing ability. He can do some incredible things. His old coach at North Texas, who just took the Oklahoma State job,
Starting point is 00:17:55 said he's coached a lot of quarterbacks in his time, including, I think he might have said he coached Patrick Mahomes and a couple other guys. And he said that of all the quarterbacks, he's coached the most accurate passer on the run is Chandler Morris. That's a pretty huge compliment. But the guy's, he's just solid. That's all I can say about it.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I mean, he's a winner. He's a leader. He's accurate. He's got intangibles. He's heady. He's nuanced. He's experienced. I mean, he's a coach's son.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He's turning 25. Chandler Morris is turning 25 years old, ladies and gentlemen. I'll emphasize that again. He's a few days younger than Jaden Daniels, the Washington Commander's quarterback, Chandler Morris. Chandler Morris will have a shot of the NFL if there's something that holds Chandler Morris back. Maybe it's the height with Chandler Morris,
Starting point is 00:18:56 but we've seen quarterbacks of similar stature have long careers in the NFL. Russell Wilson, Drew Brees. I mean, it's not the, it's not the NFL of old hoodie, you're a 6-4-6-5 drop-back passer with the candidate of an arm anymore. No. There's a lot more guys who have fluidity to their game and can move and move the pocket and sprint out and run the ball, et cetera. And it's going in that direction.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And I would think he'll definitely get a shot. Broncoe Minn and All used to have this thing about quarterbacks. He said, I judge a quarterback by whether he can get me to a chance. championship game, and certainly Bryce Perkins did that, and now Chandler Morris has done the same thing. He's gotten him to the championship
Starting point is 00:19:45 game, and that puts him in an elite category of Virginia for sure. Chad Wood says he was one of those guys laughing at Chandler Morris when he said he was going to come to Charlottesville and win an ACC championship. Chad, I'll include myself as well in that
Starting point is 00:20:02 group. What do you think? think of the Duke matchup? Let's talk about what has to get done against Duke. Let's talk about a turnaround of a week, a neutral sight, a team
Starting point is 00:20:17 that both these teams know each other well. Yeah, they do. And I think Virginia's biggest challenge is to come out of the gate fast and establish its running game to shut down Duke's running game, put the pressure on Minsa again.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And for Chandler and the passing game to attack Duke's secondary. Duke has a very weak secondary, some freshmen back there, and you just can't change that in a week's time. They're going to have to do what they do. And they're coming off winds over Carolina and Wake Forest. and so they're playing pretty good football, but... Duke's a good football team. Yeah, they are.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I mean, they could have... It's like Manning said the other day, he said, you know, we could have scheduled some cream cake, cream pups. But they chose to play a more challenging schedule, and he said it made us a better football team, and he said, isn't that what it's supposed to be about? You get better as the season goes along. And he said, we learned a lot of things about our team, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So they are a good football team. They've beaten some good teams along the way. And it's up to Virginia just to come out and reestablish itself and play the same kind of game it did in Durham two weeks ago. I think they can do that. And, again, the personnel on either side hasn't changed that much and won't. You might be able to throw in a few wrinkles, but it's basically you danced with what, who brung you? Philip Dow, the mayor of Scottsville, is thinking a low-scoring game, which could be scary for the who's.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He's watching in Scottsville. We got this coming from South Florida in the panhandle, and then another comment coming from South Florida. go to the panhandle force. Can you guys let us know why you'd prefer Duke over SMU for this ACC championship? I stayed up and watched the SMU game. I stayed up late. That was a West Coast start. California upset them. Cal jumped out to an early lead. SMU comes back with an incredible performance of the second half, takes the lead, and then Cal and the end of the fourth quarter wins this contest. SMU had a shot to win this contest in the second half. We got back to the press box after all the
Starting point is 00:23:04 player and coaches interviews just in time to see the missed field goal at the end. Yeah, miss field goal at the end. Put in perspective for the viewers and listeners, the SMU Duke, why Duke is maybe a better matchup than the ponies? I just think SMU is a better football team all around. They have a decent running game. They have a solid quarterback as well. They throw the ball well.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I think their defense is not great, but it's a little better. I just think SMU is a little bit better football team than Duke and a little more harder to prepare for. And, you know, SMU was in the ACC championship game last year. They were counting on being in it two years in a row, which is not easy to do unless you've been Clemson the past 10 or 15 years. But I just think they're just a better overall football program, a little bit better team. And again, you're familiar with Duke. You know what worked and didn't work the last time, and I think it gives you kind of a leg up
Starting point is 00:24:25 in preparation. Jeremy Wilson is watching in eastern Tennessee. He makes the comparison with Chandler Morris and Pavia, Diego Pavia, the Vanderbilt quarterback. He says both are about the same size, both win ball games, but Chandler Morris is a class act and humble. Pavia is an arrogant, you know what, and he's constantly taunting players. Chad makes the comparison of Chandler Morris with Doug Flutie, a former Buffalo Bills great. and stature and moxie and winnability. This, another comment from Florida, can we talk Des Kitchens? Seems to us he deserves some attention.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh, yeah, no question. And I think we've been giving him that as the season progressed. They're still, they're still every now and then. He'll come up with something that makes you scratch your head. But generally, he's, I mean, they've got the... That jump pass took some balls, so I'm going to say that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:32 On the season, they got more yards. I haven't checked this week, but going into the weekend, they had the most productive offense in the ACC. Had run the most plays. I think they, well, I don't know if... I think they had the most yards. They might have been second in average yards per game or something, but it's right up there.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I agree with you. Yeah, he's come up with some imaginative plays like they keep finding ways to use that direct, excuse me, that direct snap. The Wildcat. Because people, you know, kind of looking for catching on knowing that Jamari's probably going to get that call most of the time on the goal line. And so they keep trying to find different formations or different things to as eye candy to. kind of throw the defense off and that that was brilliant i thought uh the little pop pass where he just lobbed it over the defense after they thought he was going to run it and the tight in uh that was that was any inus that caught that right yeah yeah and uh who's always open it seems
Starting point is 00:26:46 like a terrific tight-in uh and all he had to do was just kind of stand there and wait for the ball but yeah that took some brass for sure and you know he's done a pretty good job of attacking people I know the offense has not rolling up the kind of yards that it did early in the season we knew that was impossible to average 45 points and 585 the competition has gotten stiffer as well yeah the competition is out absolutely so you You know, they have to continually tweak things and add things and take things out throughout the season, self-scouting and sticking with what works. And you've got to give a lot of credit to the offensive line for making that happen and protecting Morris and keeping him upright. This comment has come from Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:27:51 He says, gentlemen, the stars have absolutely a lot. line for this football team. Think about what our thoughts were at the beginning of the season where we are today and to face Duke in the ACC championship as yet another star aligning for Tony Elliott in the Who's. I totally agree with that. Fertuitous is a word I would use for this team. This comments come in about Duke making the ACC championship. They're not complaining, but how in God's name is Duke UVA's opponent in the ACC championship. It's called tiebreakers. Yeah, that's something that
Starting point is 00:28:23 That'll change Yeah, it has to Todd from Pennsylvania I assume that was Todd We met him over to Greenbrier He came down for that game He's right I mean the stars have aligned
Starting point is 00:28:39 unbelievably For this football program And they've taken advantage of it And who knows what else is out there But yeah The tiebreaker system has got to change it not just in the ACC it's all over the country and there's a lot of things in college football that has to change the coaches are not happy with you've got
Starting point is 00:29:03 like this week for example you've got the teams preparing for conference championships you've got national signing day you got the playoffs coming up you got the portal coming up they need to realign their calendar and make it make sense, and it doesn't make sense, and it's putting untold pressure on programs to try to do all this. I mean, it's going to have to be like the NFL soon. If it stays this way and hire all kinds of front office personnel to handle all the off-the-field stuff, it's just too much of a workload.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I don't care what a coach is making. that's just too much pressure on anybody to try to handle all that in one big glob. And then the tiebreaker systems, now that we have mega conferences, so to speak, they should have seen this coming. And I guess they did because there's like eight, nine, ten tiebreakers, which are, you might have to go to Oxford to be able to understand all over. Amen, brother. And they need to simplify this.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's just too complicated. I'll read some commentary from a massive JMU fan. He's actually a JMU booster. He sent me a DM. He's not given me the green light to use his name, so I'll do it in off-the-record anonymous fashion. But I know he will allow me to relay these thoughts on the show. He watches the show routinely.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'll get to that in T-minus 90 seconds. One more on this topic. for Hootie. Take the Lane Kiffin situation. The Lane Kiffin situation is, is, it just, it's, it seems slimy to me, almost gives me like the creeps a little bit. I mean, Kiffin is in a backroom meeting with the athletic director and the chancellor, and reports from national media have suggested if you don't let me coach Ole Miss and keep coaching them, I'm going to take all my assistant coaches right now to LSU, and you're going to be left with no coach.
Starting point is 00:31:18 for the rest of the season. And the chancellor and the athletic director said, no, you can't continue coaching Ole Miss. You're the head coach of LSU now. If we allow you to keep coaching Ole Miss, all that is going to be is a showcase for your program in Baton Rouge, and not what we're trying to do here with the running rebels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And it was dirty, it was slimy. It's Lane Kiffin. That's who he is, right? And plus, you know, if he is allowed to stay, at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is going to expect him to be recruiting. Like you said, with National Signing Day tomorrow, and LSU is going to be expecting him to be recruiting.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So what's he do with the recruit on the phone? Do I want you to come to Ole Miss or do I want you to come to LSU? That's another problem. I mean, we saw how many coaching hires over the weekend and this week I think they need to do something to put in a rule to where these coaches
Starting point is 00:32:25 can't be hired until the season's over especially not with the portal with signing day with the college football playoff with conference championships it's crippling it's not fair to the kids
Starting point is 00:32:35 there it is it's crippling the kids they've coached them there coached them for years and gotten them to where they are has gone and these kids are rudderless they're not thinking of the kids
Starting point is 00:32:48 and they say that well number one thing for me is the players well if you're doing that you're not thinking of the players and neither is college football and NCAA needs to step in and do something about that you just shouldn't be able to leave a program
Starting point is 00:33:04 until your season's over right and the portal you can agree to something behind the scenes maybe but nothing gets officially done until the season's over amen amen this is from a massive JMU booster.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay, I'm going to read it verbatim. We were commenting back and forth about the JMU head coach and now the ties to the UCLA job. Chesney and going across the country to coach a story program that is down on its luck in UCLA.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Way down. Way down on its luck. Very similar situation to the previous JMU head coach that went to Hooserville, to Indiana. Indiana. He says this. Long thoughts.
Starting point is 00:33:45 maybe you will be intrigued on my global landscape perspective. JMU was underpaying their coach for what they are producing, their coaches for what they are producing, but offered to make both Signetti and Chesney the highest paid sunbelt coaches plus highest assistant pool plus really good NIL money for a G5 after their second good football FBS season.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Prove it for two years, then we will can pay you more money. However, the top conference G5 money cannot compete with the Power 4 Blue Bloods, as you know. The TV revenue and donor base just cannot compare. When we expand the stadium, JMU, in 24 months, that will generate some additional funds to help, but that cannot sniff UVA or the bigger programs. College football will be worse when there are no great stories like Boise State, JMU, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:34:39 What fun is college sports when you only have a kid for one or two seasons max? those longer are either already at the top 10 revenue schools or they stink. He's talking the players. And Harris-Aberg, we say four-letter words when a kid flashes brilliance because we know he will be gone immediately. And then he talks about the playoffs. He talks about JMU's historical significance of late and where they've come from, basically lamenting what has come of college football as a JMU fan. Well, that's the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:35:13 and every program, even the Power 5, Power 4, have had to adapt or die. And, I mean, look at Virginia. They didn't take NIL seriously. They weren't all in until this year. Yeah. They got $30 million. They stuck their toe in the water last year, and it just didn't move the needle. This year, they went all in.
Starting point is 00:35:42 You saw, we were reaping the results, talking about it right here. Virginia Tech did not have that kind of money. We saw what a disaster season they had. Now they're all in, and they should be able to rebuild their roster. It's just the world we live in. I don't think it's going to change anytime soon unless somebody, I don't know who, has the power to change it. I don't know that the coaches want it changed,
Starting point is 00:36:16 at least the power for. Well, and how about this perspective for you? And I'll throw it back to you. UVA, extremely wealthy school. $15 billion endowment, producing the creme de la creme professionally. Many billionaires with the B in the alumni network.
Starting point is 00:36:35 We're seeing eight-figure anonymous donations on the regular, seven-figure donations on the regular two athletics. The founder of Reddit, massive donation for women's basketball. We've got swimming and diving million-dollar donations, baseball million-dollar donations, eight figures for football.
Starting point is 00:36:52 It's coming every... Squash, multi-million dollar donations. Maybe this is good for Virginia. Well, it may be. I mean, it's certainly leveled the playing field for them. We all know how rare it was for them. to compete for the league title over the last since George Welsh
Starting point is 00:37:13 retired and what was I keep going back to I think it was two summers ago when they passed some kind of state legislation that allowed you to compensate players more than I can't remember all the details
Starting point is 00:37:34 of it but I remember then that somebody said well what they've just done is if Virginia wants to be, because of the money, they can be the New York Yankees of college sports. And they got the horses to do it. They got the money guys to do it. We're starting to see that. And, you know, if that's what it takes, and Virginia has the alumni that wants to make that
Starting point is 00:37:58 happen, then, you know, more power to them. That's probably the only way they're going to be able to compete with the Alabama's and the Ohio States and programs like that because the other way they they were handcuffed that's right and so so was everybody else and unless you pony up you're left out in a cold and you know that's just the harsh reality of college sports and I feel bad for some of the lower programs but JMU unfortunately is as great as a program as they've built over there there they're going to be a feeder for they're going to if they can have a coach who's done a great job he's going to be plucked pretty quickly look at chesney chesney uh bianton the basketball coach
Starting point is 00:38:49 uh signetti signetti to indiana uh players they're they're going to go for nil pay days and play a lot of them want to be challenged at the power four level uh it's just a reality that that I don't see changing anytime soon. I 100% agree with you. I mean, let's take it a step further. Look at Virginia Tech. I think the Hokies are a significant crossroads. Now they ponyed up for James Franklin,
Starting point is 00:39:17 and Franklin's already pulling recruits from Penn State, but Virginia Tech does not have the wealth with its alumni base, and they're hundreds of millions of dollars behind with their athletic department. Babcock, the athletic director, went to his board of visitors, said we need to raise a quarter of a billion dollars. Yeah. or we're going to have a generational setback with athletics in Blacksburg. A quarter of a billion, he asked the Board of Visitors for at Virginia Tech.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And they're still in the process of doing this, where UVAs, we saw it, they flipped a switch. Yeah. They literally flipped a switch. And, you know, it's always an arms race. It's either facilities or NIL money or this or that, coaching staff salaries, whatever, to keep up with the Joneses. and people keep raising the stakes and forcing everybody else to follow along. And, I mean, it's a different scenario, but back when Al Groh was here, and the ACC expanded and added Miami and some of these other programs,
Starting point is 00:40:24 and Al warned the UVA administration that if we don't make some serious changes here to the football, program, in terms of facilities and dedication and staff, et cetera, support staff, we're one misstep away from being Duke, which in Duke at that point was pathetic. And he was right, and the administration later acknowledged that after watching the football program hit bottom. John Oliver, Craig Littlepage, Lieutenant, acknowledged to you, Al Groh was right. Yeah, he did. and look at Duke
Starting point is 00:41:07 Duke Duke was wretched and now they're playing in the ACC championship they've been good for a few years now they spent $8 million on a quarterback 8 million
Starting point is 00:41:20 he was the top quarterback in the portal he was the top guy in the portal yeah and 8 million over two years yeah but I mean that you got to play you got to pay to play and that quarterback has duke in the ac c championship yeah i mean their their offense is prolific because of this guy who came to durham because he got eight
Starting point is 00:41:44 million dollars over two years yeah and i can't blame him he was second in the nation and passing yards uh before he played virginia i mean guys let's put this in perspective virginia's best score on basketball probably what de ritter the post player he's probably the best score on the team. He's an NBA player. He's an NBA player. He's a 22 year old freshman who left professional basketball. Was it in Belgium to come to Charlottesville to play
Starting point is 00:42:10 college basketball at UVA because he could make more money and have better quality of life in Charlottesville wearing an orange and blue uniform than playing pro basketball in Belgium? And exposure. And exposure. And it'll it's easier for him to get to the NBA
Starting point is 00:42:27 through college basketball here than from the leagues over in Europe. And he's probably making some pretty good money as well. I would say he's a seven-figure guy. We even asked Tillis the other day, what's it like? And he said, well,
Starting point is 00:42:44 I know I'm not going to get but so much playing time because I'm playing behind an NBA guy. He's talking about DeRitter? Yeah. I'm playing behind an NBA player. So, you know. I mean, Grunlow looks like he could be an NBA player.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. I mean, he's only 19 years. He's 19 years old. He's a kid. De Ritter's a man. Uganda could be an NBA player. Uganda, to me, you're the pro here. You're the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer. Ogana, to me, looks like the most NBA upside of all of them.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, yeah, boy. He can jump, he can run, he's fluid, he can hang out. He's only been playing basketball since he was 12. I think he's leading the nation in block shots. He's unbelievable. He's not getting much playing time. No, not a lot, but he's getting enough, and he'll probably get more as we go along.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And his offense is starting to come alive a little bit. I mean, he's like a lot of the African players in this country who played soccer most of his life. And then basketball is something that they're trying to improve upon. Well, he just happened to be seven foot plus. You can't play soccer at seven foot plus. No, not at that size. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:56 This team, we talk about perfect salary and basketball. do we, they got Texas Wednesday? Texas, Texas, six and two. 915, ESPNU. Yeah. They blew out, well, I don't know if they blew out, but they scored over 100 against NC State the other night. So they can put some points on the board.
Starting point is 00:44:16 The NC State definitely can score. So it's probably going to be a really high scoring game. I don't know what the over might be on that, but this could be an up and down the floor game for the whole 40 minutes. I'm excited for something like that. As a guy who likes basketball play that way, Texas has got two losses on the season. 75 to 60 against Duke and the opener, the season opener. They've also lost to Arizona State by a point 87 to 86.
Starting point is 00:44:50 To put in perspective how much this team scores, they hung 97 on Lafayette, 93 on FDU, 99 on Ryder, 119 they hung on Shamanad, 102 against NC State. This team is scoring in 40 minutes like an NBA team is scoring. This team gets up and down the floor. It's an ESPNU matchup.
Starting point is 00:45:14 We will see a high-scoring, high-flying affair. How good is this Virginia basketball team, Hoody? Do we know yet? I don't think we know yet. I think they're getting better all along. I think Ryan is grimming these kids to get ready for the ACC. And he's using all these non-conference games to experiment to some degree, see what combinations work, who can play under pressure,
Starting point is 00:45:44 who can play various positions. What's your ideal starting lineup? Well, probably what it is now, except I like Chance as a starter because I think they're a different team with them. They're more aggressive. They get up the floor quicker and have a little more scoring punch. No shade on Dallan Hall. He's a great distributor.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And when he wants to score, he seems to be able to. But I don't think that's going to happen because Ryan likes to bring Chance off the bench because of the energy he brings into the game. It's a burst of aggression. And, yeah, I pretty much like the way they're starting things now. But I like the fact that he's got so much depth that he can bring in two, three, four, five new players if he wants to. And he rotates them throughout the game. I like that.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I think it's good if you have the guys that can play to play them. I'm going to give you some stats here. And you already know these stats. The guy's a stack guy like I'm a stack guy here. Chance Mallory. I'll tell you what, the best thing about Chance Mallory locally, every time they talk Chance Mallory and these broadcasts, they're showing St. Anne's Belfield Academy in every show.
Starting point is 00:47:12 St. Anne's Bellefield is getting so much free press because the Chance Mallory on TV constantly. They've just got to be licking their chops. It's like an abundance of riches for the school that already has an abundance of resources and riches. Right. Chance Mallory is third on the team in scoring, 11.3 a game. This is the one that I really love. Chance Mallory is third of the team in rebounding. That's amazing. 5.4 a game. Was he 5.7, 5'8? Chance Mallory is second on the team in assists, 2.9 a game. Chance Mallory is first on the team in steals, 2.3 a game. Chance Mallory is shooting 46% from the floor. Chance Mallory is 44% from downtown.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Only thing that makes me nervous from time to time, and I think this will change, is him at the free throw line, and he's still hitting 75% of his free throws. And Chance Mallory is doing that while splitting time with Dalen Hall, although he is now logging 24.7 minutes where Hall is logging 25, so pretty even split on time there.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I mean, this kid is a stud. I agree with the comments about him in the starting lineup. I think we will see that eventually as the season progresses. I certainly think this Texas matchup aligns with Chance Mallory's skill sets more than Hall. No shade on Hall. No shade on Hall. Talk to us about, you know, other thoughts from you and your notebook on this basketball team. And not only that, but they can play them both at the same time.
Starting point is 00:48:45 They do. And they do. And I think Ryan likes to do that. It makes them pretty dangerous. Well, you know, over the last couple of games, we've seen different guys step up and score, and it was cool to see they had six guys that made three-pointers against Charlotte the other day, Queens of Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:49:16 That's incredibly rare. A lot of guys on this team, are capable of scoring a lot of points and I think that just makes them and it's going to make them tougher to beat once the ACC portion of the schedule rolls around but these guys are
Starting point is 00:49:37 they're just solid and you know and if they lose the game at Texas you know it's not a big deal I'm sure they'll learn some things that'll help them when they get into conference play pretty soon against teams like NC State
Starting point is 00:49:59 who like to run the basketball but I think they're good and getting better all the time and I think these preseason tests against good teams are just going to help them UVA's first ACC matchup ladies and gentlemen is against Virginia
Starting point is 00:50:20 Tech on December 31st, New Year's Eve, 2 o'clock tip in Blacksburg. Virginia Tech has got a point guard, if you're not following the Hokies. That's 6869 from Greece, who is a pro player. 6869 point guard. That is an absolute animal. They have a handful of games before that matchup, of course, against the Hokies. They got Texas in Austin, 915 tip-off on Wednesday evening on ESPNU, followed by Dayton, Maryland, Eastern Shore, Maryland, and American University with Virginia Tech to close out the calendar. My friend, another show in the books, an hour flies when you're sitting across from someone as knowledgeable as you. Any closing thoughts for the viewers and listeners?
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