The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Jim Ryan Says BOV Rector Orchestrated His Ouster; Ryan, Youngkin, BOV, DOJ Saying Opposite Things

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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CharlottesanitarySupply.com. They have prices that can't be beat, and they've got free delivery in the market folks. Charlestful Sanitary Supply support local. So much to cover on the broadcast. Jim Ryan has released a 12-page letter that he has authored himself. And the former UVA president, either one of notoriety or a president that's notorious, He is now on the record documented in a 12-page letter giving the timeline, the behind-the-scene events or his speculation, his anticipation, his understanding, any way you want to look at it, of what led to his ouster as president of the University of Virginia. He is airing the dirty secrets. He is publishing the receipts. I have never seen something like this play out. in real time, certainly not at the University of Virginia, and certainly not while Spamberger, the governor-elect and Glenn Yunkin, the current governor, albeit for a short period of time, are sparring in the media themselves. What in the H.E. double hockey sticks is going on

at the Commonwealth of Virginia, and what in the H.E. double hockey sticks is going on at its flagship university, Thomas Jefferson School, the University of Virginia. We're going to try to unpack it on today's show. You've got the Faculty Senate in the mix. You got the Jefferson Council in the mix. You've got a board of visitors that's absolutely being hung out to drive by Jim Ryan. In particular, it's rector and it's vice rector, which are the leaders, the perceived leaders of the board of visitors. Ladies and gentlemen, there is so much to unpack on the show. It is, as Georgia Gilmer has highlighted her photo on screen, an absolute soap opera. And ladies and gentlemen it is a content creators dream we came into this broadcasts going to talk spamburger and

their brouhaha and now we got jim ryan as the star of the soap opera judah wood camera studio camera then a two shot we're going to get to the 12 page letter i cannot wait to unpack it for the viewers and listeners a 12 page letter where jim ryan in the written word literally is indicating that Board of Visitors rector Rachel Sheridan and Vice Rector Porter Wilkinson colluded with the Department of Justice, the Trump administration, and Governor Glenn Yonkin without his knowledge and possibly without the knowledge of other board members, including then rector Robert Hardy, to engineer orchestrate his ouster out of the president's mansion. Judah Wickhauer, my friend, I cannot wait to hear your thoughts on this.

My friend, where would you like to begin? Well, it's interesting that we've got all these letters showing up at the same time. The one from Spanberger, the one from Yonkin, and the one from Ryan. And Ryan is essentially saying that a lot of what went on went under the radar. and that he's not even sure if the DOJ was involved in his ouster. Jim Ryan is basically saying that Rachel Sheridan, the current rector, and that Porter Wilkinson, the current vice rector, colluded together to create a smoke and mirror storyline

that they leveraged to pressure Jim Ryan out of office with the threat of federal funding evaporating. And in his letter, he's actually written that he's not sure that threat actually existed or not. Yeah. Yeah. He said, he thought that

he was under the impression that there was already a penned deal that would protect the university as soon as he was out of office. And he goes on to say that that deal never, never materialized after he resigned. this is wild

rarely do you see someone in a position of prominence and power like Jim Ryan airing the dirty laundry and the deep dark secrets of what led to his oustering

now Jim Ryan is papering the trail mere hours after the governor Glenn Yunkin rips the governor-elect Abigail Spamberger who, and not

so many words, ordered the current board of visitors to slow down the presidential hiring search and wait until she gets in office in 26 so she can remake the board

and her democratic left-leaning ideology to potentially impact the hiring search, the hiring process, and to cherry pick a president of UVA that may or may not better fit her platform, her M.O. and her ideology. I'm still convinced that Jim Ryan may even be president of the University of Virginia again in 2026 with Abigail Spanberger may be using some political clout and some political pressure to bring Jim Ryan back from the debt.

I could see that. Yonkyn rips Spamberger. Spamberger rips the board. Jim Ryan rips Yon rips the rector, the vice rector, the DOJ, federal funding. This is a soap opera. This is crazy.

And some of the things that Jim Ryan states in his letter are refuted by some of the things that Yonkin puts in his letter. There was, in Ryan's letter, there was... Which is 12 pages. Talk about the fact that a lot of the stonewalling that seemed apparent during... previous to his resignation, a lot of that was seemingly engineered by Porter and Rachel. By Porter Wilkinson and Rachel Sheridan,

while they were not yet rector and vice rector, while one of the top benefactors of the University of Virginia, who's got a football facility named after him, Robert Hardy, was still rector of the board of. Visitors.

Jim Ryan in this 12-page letter is saying Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson while they were on the Board of Visitors, but not yet the rector and vice rector, went behind everyone's back. Everyone that was on the Board of Visitors went behind all their backs, including Robert Hardy's back, to come up with a devious scheme. A game of chess so well thought out and so many moves forward that it included leverage of the DOJ, it included leverage of federal funding. It somehow integrated Glenn Yonkin and that media circus he did where he said DEI was dead on Fox News. We talked about that on the show.

Everyone remembers that. a smoke and mirrors game that left jib rind with little option to resign within a 24-hour period of time yeah including including the suggestion that he resigned after initially speaking with paul manning who he claimed as a friend had said no hold on wait and see where this goes and then came back a day or two later and said, you know what, I think it's up to you, but I think it might be time to resign. And Paul Manning is the namesake of the biotech school. He gave a nine-figure donation to the UVA biotech school for naming rights. That biotech school eventually gets Astrosetica and $4.5 billion to the area. Put in perspective for the viewers and listeners, the Jim Ryan Paul Manning

conversation and Manning's counsel to Jim Ryan during all this again. Again, viewers and listeners, you need to hear this from the 12-page letter. From the 12-page letter, Jim Ryan talks about Paul Manning as a friend and says that they had, I think Paul Manning and Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson were the three board members that he actually spoke with around this time, at least directly. and after being told multiple times by Rachel and Porter that he should keep this on the down low, not talk to it with anyone, not talk about it with anyone.

He spoke with Paul Manning. Paul Manning originally told him, you know, do what you're doing, keep doing what you're doing, and then came back a day or so later. Paul Ryan Jim Ryan thinking in his letter this letter he's writing to

to keep a record of a a diary so that he could remember everything that happened says that Paul Manning seemed to have been coached or sent by someone else Manning comes back and tells him that it's his choice,

Jim Ryan's choice, but it may be time to resign. The level of gamesmanship that is happening here is the power plays that are happening here are significant. Yeah. Meanwhile, the DOJ is sending request after request after request while Porter and Rachel are telling him not to respond yet that more can be done before and so he's the university is getting I believe it was

seven letters from the DOJ meanwhile they're being told to to hold off on giving a response which he says was what gave the impression that that they were dragging their feet and all this leaves UVA looking like it lacks honor like it lacks leadership? Not just UVA. I mean, obviously we know what our political environment, what our politicians are like. But UVA is at the center of this. I know, I know.

I'm just saying that... UVA is the Ringling Brothers of the circus. You go to the circus and you're mesmerized by the Ringling brothers. And in this scenario, it's the University. that's the brothers. They have a power grab from both sides of the aisle that now involves the current governor, the governor-elect, the DOJ, federal funding, the Trump administration,

Jim Ryan, Paul Mahoney, the former rector Robert Hardy, who's one of the most significant benefactors in UVA, history, an even more significant benefactor in Paul Manning, the current rector and Rachel Sheridan, the vice rector and Porter Wilkinson, the Jefferson Councils of the mix, the UVA faculty is in the mix, the UVA Senate is in the mix, there's still no president, I would be willing to bet $20 or $50, maybe $100 that when Spamberger's in office, Rachel Sheridan's days are numbered. I would be willing to bet almost the same amount of money

that Porter Wilkinson's days are numbered. You can count on one hand when Board of visitors members were ousted in the middle of a term. When's the last time? That's a John Blair question. A rector and vice rector have been ousted. I got to think malfeasance and malpractices what Spamberger is going to use to clean house at the B.O.V. Spamberger wants the B.O.V. to pump the brakes because she wants her say, she's a UVA grad Spamberger. She wants her say into who the next president's going to be. Yonkin's rebukes. spanking Spamberger saying, overreach, you're not even in office right now, and you're trying to use your clout to tell a public university's board of visitors not to hire their next president. That's bogus. The current B.O.V, which is Yonk and appointed, should be sprinting to the finish line to hire the next president.

Do you think? I don't think it's going to get done. If you're the current board of visitors and you're sprinting to the finish line to hire the next president, next president and you're the guy that's picked for the job the gal that's picked for the job why would you take the job knowing in a mere weeks spamberger's going to come into office and rain holy hell on the board of visitors and you may be a lame duck president like a lame duck coach who loses its athletic director that's fair although yonkin does allege in his letter that the search has already garnered significant interest,

significant engagement by the hiring committee, by the search committee, the headhunters. Not to mention people throwing their hats in. They have a third-party headhunting firm that they're paying significant amount of money to hire the next president. They've got a lot of time already invested. Who's wrong?

wrong in this scenario okay let me ask you this question let me ask you this question is jim ryan in the wrong for airing a timeline of events he he resigned in when july yeah was it july i think so is jim ryan wrong for airing a timeline of events that led to his resignation and a 12-page letter to faculty, which was released today? Is this just like, he resigned June 27th, Jim Ryan. And here it is July, August, September, October. We're almost five months since his resignation. And he's showing the receipts and airing the dirty laundry of the behind-the-scenes of what happened.

Here's a straightforward question to you, viewers, and listeners, and one to you, Judah. Is this a good look for Jim Ryan? A bad look for Jim Ryan? Or is this a way for Jim Ryan to paper the trail to help his personal brand at a later stage and maybe trampoline him back into the president's office as if he's a higher power walking on water, taking the fishes and the loaves to feed the hundreds? I'm wondering if he was just waiting.

for some people to basically stick their feet in the trap say things that were easily at least from his perspective, easily what's the word, refuted. For instance,

he talks about you know, as I said, former President Ryan talked about the secretive nature of his communications with with Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson, the unclear nature of whether they were actually speaking with the DOJ.

And then we've got this letter from Glenn Yonkin, talking about President Ryan's resignation, talking about being briefed, and it's clear that neither the DOJ nor the current board leadership made Jim resign. which sounds like it's sounds like the opposite of what Jim Ryan is saying

also talking about being advised that they persuaded Ryan to advance his previously planned resignation by several months so he was planning to resign already he'd highlighted that he was already planning to resign in the past

he'd made that reference he also made the reference he's resigning in June when he resigned in June that he was resigning for the betterment of UVA, which alluded to the loss of federal funding. Depending on who you trust and what outlet you read, the yearly, the federal funding yearly allocation to UVA is somewhere between $500 million and a billion dollars. The operating budget for the University of Virginia, we learned from Bert Ellis, is about $5.2 billion. So if it's at bare minimum $500 million in federal funding that was at risk, had Jim Ryan not to resign, you're talking 10% of the operating budget.

If it climbs up to a billion, you're approaching 20% of the operating budget. Regardless, this loss of federal funding was enough of a threat to spook Jim Ryan into resignation. and now the former president is saying, I'm not so sure that that federal funding was even at risk yet, but they tricked me into thinking it was with the pressure of immediacy and urgency by thinking I was under the impression, Jim Ryan here, I was under the impression Jim Ryan that the board of visitors, I had lost their support.

and he even talks to makes reference of a colleague that counseled him that if you have no support of the board you're a lame dog president and now we know that counsel and that colleague is Paul Manning who is the namesake of the biotechnology school and Ryan claimed a friend of his that's some friend unless Mr. Manning was

pressured. Tricked or pressured or puppeteered himself. Yeah. Was he tricked or pressure or puppeteered himself by Glenn Yonkin? Yeah. And speaking of which, again, Ryan talked about the fact that he was counseled repeatedly to not talk to anyone, to keep things on the down low while all these requests were coming in from the DOJ. And here we have Glenn Yonkin claiming that former President Ryan made his intentions clear about not being committed to follow federal law,

which goes completely against a lot of what Ryan says in his letter about the fact that they were never told that the DEI was had to be not so much disbanded as the name changed, taken apart, or at least, you know, moved to different portions of the university and that there was never any indication that they were that they were doing anything against the law lower thirds on screen we should be rotating those for the viewers and listeners comments are coming in extremely quickly john blair's photo on screen number two in the family i can tell you this jerry says john blair the last chapter of this story before spamburger swore and in is going to be nuclear 100% right you know what he means by that right the last chapter of this story

before Spamberger is sworn in is going to be nuclear he also says I don't know about removed but Frederick Scott who was UVA's rector at the 1930s passed away while in office are we going to have in when was Bert Ellis removed that was this this year right Ellis removed B.O.V. I'm Google Search.

That was in March where Glenn Yunkin fired Bert Ellis. In one year's time, when Spamberger gets in office, will we have had multiple board members fired from the BOV? Burt Ellis who he Glenn Yon appointed Bert Ellis then fired Bert Ellis after it appeared he could no longer control his

bulldog, his bull in a china shot. And then failed to replace him. And then failed to replace him, which was a big egg on the face for Yonkin. Then the expectation is Spamberger is going to come into office and clean house on the board.

Yeah. John, how do you see the nuclear? You mentioned, is a question I have for you, John Blair. You says the last chapter of this story before Spamberger is sworn in an office is going to be nuclear. What do you mean before Spamberger is sworn into office is going to be nuclear? From my standpoint, and John, you follow this as close as anyone. From my standpoint, the nuclear bomb is going to be when Spamberger is sworn into office, is the governor, and then drops the bomb on the board. What nuclear are you

saying before Spamberger is into office out of curiosity? Conan Owens watching the program. He's the owner of Sir Speedy Central Virginia. If you have a logo and you need a visible application for it, Sir Speedy Central Virginia is who you contact. They did the vinyl lettering on our storefront. They're doing the signage in our building, the Macklin building for our 24 tenants. They have the banner directly behind me.

And as we scale to other office positions in downtown Charlottesville, Sir Speedy Central Virginia is helping with that tenant visibility. He is a Darden graduate, a UVA graduate, and he owns a business. that's locally owned and operated, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. He says, Jerry, you say alleged gamesmanship. He says, you really think they were playing this 3D political chess game?

Ignorance and bumbling can appear like Machiavellian brilliance as well. Okay, this is a question I have for you, Conan. Respect you tremendously here. I have got to think with players like Jim Ryan, Glenn Yonkin, Porter Wilkinson, Rachel Sheridan, Robert Hardy, the DOJ, Paul Manning, that this is McEvalian and a game of political chess and not stumbling and bumbling to the goal line and having to trip into the end zone.

You disagree, Judah? The stumbling and bumbling seems pretty on point for, a lot of what we've seen this year. You think this is all happenstance, coincidence, and mistake that just happens to be in the same time frame? No, I think there... That seems to be linked? I think there are probably alliances and people working together towards, you know, certain goals,

but I don't know that there's an overarching, as is mentioned, Machiavellian like master plan. We'll agree to disagree on that one. We'll agree to disagree on that one. But I respect your opinion tremendously. We'll agree to disagree on that one. Who pressured Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson

to completely step out of line to push and pressure blackmail extort? Did they need pressuring? Jim Ryan out of office. You're saying, Porter Wilkinson and Rachel Sheridan did this on their own accord, at best pressured, more likely blackmailed and extorted Jim Ryan out of office? I've got to think that there's a higher power, a more power player, a more significant

power player that got in Porter Wilkinson and Rachel Sheridan's ears and said, you are going to be my Bert Ellis 2.0, my bull in a china shot. So you think it's Yonkin? I think it's Yonkin. I think it's Yonkin. Jefferson Council in the mix, that headline on screen, the Jefferson Council yesterday writes this, in a striking act of political amnesia, Governor-elect Abigail Spamberger, has demanded that the UVA Board of Visitors refrain from choosing a president until she can appoint new B.O.V.

members when, in fact, the 100% Democrat-appointed Board of Visitors exercised no such restraint following the election of Governor Glenn Yonkin four years ago. The Jefferson Council continues in the March 22 Board of Visitors meeting, Jim Ryan's employment contract, still three years from expiring in 2025, was quietly extended until 2028 by the Democrat appointed board prior to Governor Yonkin having an opportunity to appoint one board member. It was done within a closed session with no foreknowledge or explanation and only announced afterward. The board's action was clearly intended to ensure Jim Ryan's tenure beyond the period that Governor Glenn Yonkin would be in office and his board appointees in control of the board.

So here's the Jefferson Council saying, what are you doing, Abigail Spanberger? You're being a hypocrite because the Ralph Northrum led board, which was all Democrats as Glenn Yonkin was getting to office because Ralph Northrum appointed him himself, they and D.L. behind the scenes, closed door fashion, extended the contract of Jim Ryan into 2028 because they knew Glenn Yon was going to be the governor and he was going to completely revamp. the board, which could impact Jim Ryan's status and tenure as president of UVA.

And now the Jefferson Council is saying, hold that thought, then jump in. Now the Jefferson Council is saying, Abigail Spanberger, either you have a short memory or you're a hypocrite. Yeah. Not to mention. Not to mention that

oh, now I've lost my turn of thought. Not to mention that that the, if President Ryan ended his ended his term while Yonkin was governor, then they would have a chance to put someone that they wanted in as president. So they, yeah, they sought to tie Yonkin's hands, so to speak, as you mentioned, behind closed doors without any transparency. And now, what? Spanberger wants transparency? This is crazy. This is crazy.

Politics. This is all happening. This is all happening. You ready for this? This is all happening while a white-collar racketeering case is going on. White-collar racketeering lawsuit is going on with the UVA health system. One that's been dubbed by the lawsuit, the Kent Enterprise, one that we've reimagined and,

rebranded here at I Love Seaville as the Kenner Prize, a lawsuit that alleges Craig Kent, the CEO of UVA Health and his lieutenants, the CEO of the hospital and the deed of the medical school, used bullying, bonyism, racketeering, backroom dealing, medical chart changing, overbilling of patients, downright scoundrel alleged behavior to maximize profits over people, and actually yielding the death of two patients at the University of Virginia. Yeah. All this happened within a short period of time of students pepper sprayed by the state police on grounds during a pro-Palestine protest.

All this happened during the awful, awful courtroom drama and saga of a triple murder on grounds. For which we've just had an anniversary. A three-year anniversary, right? Yeah. And the well-documented history of the killer and his troubled pass, including multiple people bringing to authority attention, that this guy has a gun and he's a threat to safety of the student body. And lied to the university. And lied to the university about an arrest tied to a gun charge. What the hell is going on here?

this is a Netflix documentary No doubt This is a Netflix documentary Who plays This is a Netflix series Who plays Jim Ryan in the series John Ham Jim Ryan

Will you be played by John Ham From Badman Really A weathered John Ham Playing Jim Ryan I guess we're not going For someone that looks like him Who do you think is a better example

of Jim Ryan? Just know it's not John Hamm. Who plays Glenn Yonkin? Oh, man. I'd say Pierce Brosnan, but that would be an insult to Glenn Yonka now. Pierce Brosnan of 20 years ago, maybe. This is wild. Yeah, no doubt.

A content creator's fantasy. Viewers and listeners, your thoughts, put them and the feed, I'll relay them live on air. Conan says, I think UVA ignoring the DOJ was incompetence, ignorance, not taking Trump seriously. 100% agree with you on that one, Conan. If you have yet to read the 12-page

letter Jim Ryan's authored about his ouster, You should read it. Conan also highlights the attorney from the DOJ is a UVA law grad, and none of this happens without her leading the charge against the university. 100% on that, Conan. Vanessa Parkhill, politics is filled with hypocrisy, no surprise to me. And I agree.

I agree with you. Janice Boyce Trevillian says Jim Ryan is a big boy with a lot of contacts. I'm sure he could have found out what was really going on with the DOJ. So she's not really buying Janice Bois Trevillian the ignorance. I didn't know what was going online that Jim Ryan is using in this letter. Yeah. Jim Ryan is basically saying in this 12-page letter that he was bamboozled. Yeah.

Yeah. He was told to not talk to anyone. And therefore, it was hard to get good advice because if you can't tell someone the details of what's going on. He's basically saying that he's. the victim here. Yeah. He's basically saying I was ignorant to what was going on.

I was tricked here. Into thinking that the university was going to have massive amounts of money held back, that the investigations would continue, and that there was a deal penned and I believe signed that if he resigned post-haste, like today, that the deal would go

through the university would be protected and everything would be copacetic. Of course, we didn't see that until, you know, much later, more recently, where Mahoney signed a deal. With the Trump administration and the DOJ, allowing the DOJ quarterly audit opportunity of the University of Virginia and whether DEI was truly eradicated from its curriculum, its protocols, and its processes. what about this question what about the timing of this what about the timing of this abigail spamburger this week instructs the board of

visitors to slow the presidential search yeah 24 hours later if that glen yonkin rips Abigail Spamberger for overreach. And for not letting him know that she was planning something like this? 24 hours after Glenn Yonkin rips Abigail Spanberger, Jim Ryan releases his letter. Was the release of Jim Ryan's 12-page letter

that documented the paper trail of his ouster? Was that done to counterpoint Glenn Yonkin's ripping of Governor-elect to Abigail Spamberger for overreach and for failure to communicate with the current governor. What's going on? I think in part. I think in part it was also to lay the groundwork for

Okay. For four? Okay. I mean, I'm not really sure. For his return from the ashes back into Carr's Hill? Potentially, but I think also, I think it was also I think the delay in him releasing it was in part, like I said, earlier to allow people to get their feet stuck in

spots where they maybe wouldn't want to be. But whose feet got stuck in spots that may or may not have been? They didn't want to be here. Yonkin? For one. Why? Because he went on the Fox News

Circuit and said DEI is dead at UVA? No. I mean, more for what he says in this letter. Like about talking about President Ryan not being committed to follow federal law. Talking about, I don't know, talking about neither the DOJ nor the current board leadership

making Jim resign. If we had a prop that does Jim Ryan rise from the ashes and is reappointed as president of UVA, where would you have your money right now? I think I would have my money on him being back in, back in the presidential seat at UVA pretty soon. If you were a betting man right now, your prop bet money, your Chauncey Billups money,

your Terry Rozier money would be on Jim Ryan rising from the ashes and being the president again at UVA, a la Terry Sullivan? Yeah, I think so. Man, I don't think I would take that bet because I think that might be the case. we heard, remember we said this on the I Love Seville show, that we heard from a person in position of tremendous power months ago

that Jim Ryan was going to be the president of UVA again? Yeah. Remember when we said that months ago on the show? I mean, he's essentially, look at the letter that he wrote. Look at the letterhead. Tell him. It's UVA. Let them know. Let them know.

A lot of people haven't read the letter. It's UVA stationary. He's writing a 12-page letter on UVA-headed stationary. It starts off at the very beginning, University of Virginia School of Law. And it's on the right-hand top, the right-hand side of the first page, James E. Ryan, President Emeritus, Professor of Law, Professor of Education. Edgimication. I mean, he's... This is so crazy.

It's almost like he's just, you know, waiting for... I wonder if... I wonder if somebody told him, look. You're in the driver's seat, dog. Just wait for the storm to blow over. Yeah. And while he's waiting for the storm to be over, blow over, he still paid his presidential salary for 14 months.

Yeah. The only thing that he's... had to do was move out of Carr's Hill. Move out of the mansion. Yeah. And you know what's going to happen? If he's named

president again of UVA, his brand and his legacy, Jim Ryan, I've been told you watch this program. Now, I've been told you don't watch the program routinely, but when your name came up, I've been told you've watched multiple episodes

of the I Love Civo show. If you happen to watch this one, Jim Ryan. Here's your plan of attack, sir. If you play your cards right and you rise from the ashes to be named President of the University of Virginia again, your legacy, not just at the University of Virginia, but nationwide will be one of historical significance. Your legacy initially as President of UVA would have been one that would have been commemorated, but most

likely in the long run forgotten. But your legacy, if you rise from the ashes and are named President of UVA a second time, will not just be one that is commemorated, it will be one that's championed and celebrated by

Democrats and most of UVA alumni and Wahoo Nation, and you will never be forgotten. Not to mention most of the professors, most of the faculty and staff, probably a good portion of the students as well. This guy will be able to go anywhere. Riverside and get bacon cheeseburgers on the house. Botto's bagels, sausage egg and cheese on the house. Ragged Mountain Running Shop, A6 on the house. The millroom, Phillips making an old-fashioned the bartender on the house.

And now we've got the football team playing Duke on Saturday. They're five, what are they, five and a half point underdogs over there, Judah? Is that what the line says on the lower third? Surprisingly, what you said, is it? The line opened at six and a half. I guess Chandler's going to play. Give it a go. He's listed as questionable.

Chandler, at least it's not doubtful or out. It's surprising that the spread went down. with the uncertainty of his... Unless Vegas started the line on Monday, expecting Chandler not to play at six and a half, and then their intel said, oh, maybe the concussion was not as bad as anticipated,

and that's why the betting public started chasing the plus six and a half, so the line goes down. Vegas wants even money on either side, because how they get their money is on the 10% juice, on the juice of the losers. Yeah. Crazy.

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Thank you. Thank you.