The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Joe Hoye & Barb Shaw Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Joe Hoye and Barbara Shaw of Heart of the Home Family Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com. “The White Mountain Ministries Show” is presented by Opening Doors Real Estate.

Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for watching, for listening, for praying, and for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. We are excited. Hey, this is going to be our last show of 2024. So I'm just going to go ahead and say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy New Year. It's going to be an awesome show. We have multiple guests on the show today. We are going to have Joe Hoy live in studio and we have Barbara Shaw on the phone with us today, also live, but in Florida. What part of Florida, Barbara Shaw?

We are in Crystal River, Florida. There we go. So we're going to be talking about Costa Rica. We're going to be talking about mission trips, and that is going to be the focus for a lot of the show, to share our mission trip last month in Costa Rica. We had a group of six that went there. Lots of miracles, lots of healings. God taught us so much on the trip. Lots of favor, open doors. It was beautiful. It's a beautiful country, amazing people, amazing food. And we were blessed as were they in so many ways. So we're going to talk about that. But look, I woke up this morning, something very much on my heart. This is something that, um, oh my goodness,

I seem to be bombarded with this constantly, especially in recent weeks and months. For whatever reason, I don't know, but the Lord put it on my heart to share this today to start the show. And so this is, I believe, Holy Spirit led. This is not, was not my intention for this show, but I talked to Barbara and Joe both about it. So we're all going to share a little bit on this subject because I actually believe it may be one of the worst doctrines in all the church. And so it's a very important issue that so many people miss. And we love to say this expression. I hear it all the time from good people that love the Lord, that go to church, that may even have some level of relationship with God, but we love to make this saying, and you've heard us talk about this on the show before, but God is in control. We hear that all the time. God

is in control, brother. What are we really saying? I often like to ask people, what do you mean when you say that? Like, because sometimes this is a semantic thing where maybe it's just a little bit off, or maybe we don't actually even realize what we're saying but you know many times it's like okay yes is God in control in the sense that he is the supreme authority that he has a master plan that he is sovereign that he's in control in the sense that he's not reckless and out of control but But when we say God is in control, do we mean that everything that happens is the administrative will of God? Because if that's what we are saying, and many times, I don't know if people mean that, but in the context that they're using it,

and when they say God is in control, we are essentially saying that everything that happens is the administrative will of God. And that is just a complete fallacy. It's not accurate, it's not Bible, and it's not truth. And a lot of times, in a lot of ways, what it's doing, it's actually disarming us as Christians. It is disarming us. So what do I mean when I say that? that happened was the administrative will of God. Adam would have never even eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But what am I saying? Why do I say that? Okay. God actually spoke to Adam. He said, Adam, do not eat from this tree or you will die. Okay. Technically, it wasn't even really a choice. It was a command to Adam to not eat that tree. But technically, he did have the ability to choose. And when he ate from that tree, when he said when Adam and Eve said it messed up a lot for a lot of people, God had to send his son because Adam and Eve ate from that tree. So I look, God did not want Adam to eat from that tree.

But guess what? he did it anyways okay and so really what I think people are saying oftentimes when they're saying God is in control what we're really saying is that we don't want any responsibility we don't want any consequences to our choices we want to put all the credit and all the blame on God that's what we're doing okay and adam and eve even did the same thing they immediately as soon as they ate the tree eve blamed the serpent adam blamed eve there was no responsibility okay but there were massive consequences to those choices and there's consequences to our choices and when we think that god is in control that everything that happens in our life is the will of God, we're in trouble. Because that means we're saying, okay, we're getting a divorce.

Somebody cheated on their spouse, and now we're getting a divorce. I hear these things, and that's why I say when I look at the context, and they say, well, God's in control. As if that is the plan and the call on your life from God, that you're supposed to get a divorce with your spouse. You were supposed to have an affair. And we put it on God and say, that's God's in control. Instead of taking accountability for our own choices. We say the same thing about death. We say the same thing about sickness.

People die. They say, well, it was, it was, it was his time, brother. No, it was not the time for a three-year-old little one to have cancer and die and go be with the Lord. Yes, God received him. That child, he received your loved one. But he is not taking them out. He is not the thief. John 10, 10.

He is not the thief. He is the giver of life. He received your loved ones. He told us to raise the dead. He's not taking us out. So when it says in Romans 8, 28, that God can take all things and turn it for good. Yes, he can take your situation, your circumstance and turn it for good. But that doesn't mean that he puts you in that circumstance.

We can make choices in life that can get us on track. He can take that and he can get us back on the right track. But that doesn't mean that those are the choices that he wanted us to make. So I could literally talk on this for hours and I want our guests to be able to talk about this as well. But my goodness, we have to stop placing all the blame and on the credit on God. And we often do the same thing with the enemy, right, Joe? Exactly. We place the blame on God or we place everything on the enemy. But a lot of times it's our own choices.

Here's the thing. The enemy can't do whatever he wants either. That's right. The enemy cannot do whatever he wants in your life. And I will say this. God is love. God is love. And control is never love. Control is never

love. So I'm just going to give another example about this. A couple of weeks ago at my gym, there's someone who's been an atheist for years. He mocks Christians. He makes fun of Christians, right? And I just always remember thinking, man, if this guy would ever let me, because he sees hypocrisy in the church. If this guy would ever let me get my hands on him, it's amazing what God's going to do. The Holy Spirit's going to touch him. Well, he had bad cartilage in his knee. It was bone on bone. There was nothing really the doctors could do. He was limping around all the time. And I said, hey, brother, can I pray for you? And he said, you know what? Yes, you can. And I found out weeks later that his knee had been completely healed. He had no more pain. There was someone in that gym who was another

believer that made the comment, well, God could have healed his knee anytime he wanted. We are misunderstanding the power and authority that he has given us. Of course, God is sovereign, but guess what? That guy was not a believer he could have woken up in the morning his knee would have been healed he wouldn't have prayed for that he would have had no thought whatsoever that that would have been god but guess what he realized even though he didn't understand it that somebody prayed for him he had pain the doctors told him would not leave and his knee was healed and guess what i found out he's been going to church he's been going to church god has given the power and authority because jesus christ went and died on that cross power and authority has been given back to us

the power of life and death is in our tongue so i could talk about this forever but I'm going to say one more scripture James 4 7 submit yourselves then to God so basically that's saying submit yourself to the will of God because we're not puppets on strings he's not forcing us resist from the devil and he will flee so that's saying it right there submit. Resist from the devil and he will flee. So that's saying it right there. Submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil and he will flee.

Guys, when we think, I'm going to say this. When we think that God is in control and that everything that happens is the administrative will of God, it disarms us. It makes us passive. Why do we even pray if God has already determined the outcome? It takes prayer out of the mix. We are called to intercede and pray. And I would heard my son heard me talking to Barbara about this on the phone today. And he started drawing for anybody who knows my son, very gifted prophetically. He draws pictures that he hears from the Lord. Things come to pass. It's helped anointed people in the body of Christ. And he started writing this. I was like, what are you writing? You're sitting here listening to me saying that you know about god in control

and so he wrote this picture this is my son you got to understand he's nine years old it says god is in control and then if you can see right next to it this is what the lord showed him he's this is the picture of the enemy or something demonic. I'm going to tell you right now, if you're saying that, that is exactly what the devil wants you to believe. That you have no power, that you have no authority, that you have no dominion over him because that terrifies him. So my son said, me saying no, God saying no, God loves us. So that's just a brief thing, guys. I'm going to ask Barbara because I know that this subject has been something very powerful that you had to learn. You had to come out of religion to see this truth. And it's one of those things that really will set you free when you understand it.

So, Barbara, can you share some on this subject for us? Yes, Nate. I'd be happy to because it is something I'm pretty passionate about. I grew up in religion, and I believed a lot of things that weren't true, and those things held me in bondage a lot. And so many times things would happen, sometimes some tragic things with people in the church and different things, And people would kind of put the blame over on God. Well, it must have not been God's will. But the Word of God says in the Gospels, in the New Testament,

it says that Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were sick and oppressed of the devil because God was with him. And so it is his will. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever. It is his will to heal. Jesus took the stripes on the cross so that we could walk in divine health and healing. But yet I was hearing things that didn't make sense to me, but I didn't understand because I had grown up hearing this my whole life. And I didn't understand.

And then I also lived under control for a lot of years. It's actually a spirit. When a spirit is trying to control, manipulate, or dominate someone, what happens is when you live under the control of someone else, you become a person who is, you walk on eggshells, you'll hide in a corner, you lose your identity, you lose your voice because you're afraid to speak. It's really bad. And I tell people a lot that one of the most things that I love and admire so much about our Heavenly Father is that He is not controlling. He is a loving God who gives us a free will he created

us with a free will to choose even though he created us and he's the one who put the gifts and the talents uh in us to be everything that he created us to be we still have a choice whether we want to follow him that we want to walk in the destiny he's designed for us whether we want to walk in freedom and liberty even though jesus went and paid a huge price on the cross for us to have all of these things we have a choice whether we want to or not if god was in control like some people believe he would just make everybody do what he wants them to do and they would live exactly the way he wants them to live but no he is a God of love and it all boils down to understanding our identity in Christ understanding that we

have been made righteous in Christ Jesus and it comes down to understanding that he is wanting to partner with us in a love relationship. If it's him just in control that he's a God up there doing whatever he wants to do. When you are in a love relationship with Jesus Christ and Papa God, you're receiving his love. You understand that everything he's doing around you, he's wanting to do with you, in you and through you. He does the work in our hearts. He pours his love into us. And that love is poured out of us into other people's lives. We are the body of Christ. We are his hands. We are his feet. And so Jesus is the head of his

church. But we get to partner with the God of the universe, the creator of all things. And he is so personal and loves us so much. He's not controlling everything. He's given us authority. He's given us dominion. Jesus went to the cross and he paid for those things. He took back everything that was lost in the garden so that we could live in the fullness of liberty and freedom

because of the cross of Jesus Christ. Thank you, Barbara. That's beautiful. Like the guys, people who watch this show on a regular basis for the last 30 weeks, I'm not just like just pounding doctrine and theology. It's not what I do. But the Lord has just put this on my heart. Like we have got to wake up to this and live in it.

Maybe it's, but I don't, I can't say this is all over the body of Christ. I don't know that for sure. But in small religious southern towns, it's one of the two things that people love to say, God is in control. Talk about it, Joe. Yeah, the Lord, one of the best ways to understand things, go back to the beginning, and Barb touched on it. He gave Adam and Eve dominion over the earth. Does that sound like God is in total control when he gave dominion to Adam and Eve? No.

In fact, he even brought the animals to Adam and had Adam name the animals, he involved them in the creative process. So if you go back to the beginning, you see it. If you go to a scripture that says, behold, I give you the authority and power over all the enemy. Does that sound like God is in total control? No. Relationship demands choice. Relationship, which Barb spoke of, demands choice. God chose to set aside that sovereignty of his that we would be involved in it, that we would co-labor in the entirety of the kingdom. That's his will for our life we have free will we have choices and we have responsibility amen yeah so you're always good at being powerful and quick and concise that's what the lord's given me yeah um yeah so like even a little example on

this like if i take my kids if i take my three little girls, our triplets to the playground and they're running around, like I'm in charge, like they're not in charge. I'm in charge and I'm watching over them and I'm protecting them. But like, if one of my little girls pushes another kid or pushes each other or spits on somebody, my girls don't do that, but kids do that. Like they're not puppets on strings. They still have the ability to make choices on that playground. I'm not controlling their every single action. He doesn't create robots. He wants a relationship. That's right.

So anyways, we'll move on from that. I appreciate y'all's insight on the subject. And thank you guys for watching today. I am, because of all the things with the technology, I don't have access to even see the comments. Maybe I shouldn't tell you guys that, but if you're asking us questions, I want you to be able to continue to do that and just write in where you're coming from. We love and appreciate you guys. And I hope that this is helpful for people because the truth will set you free. And this is, can be very freeing as Barbara talked about in your life. So opening doors, real estate, Melanie Morris, she's going to have an awesome 2025. That brokerage is going

to have a blessed year. We declare favor on that business. We thank you for being a partner and a sponsor. If you're looking to buy or sell in 2025, talk to Melanie Morris. Share the show, guys. This is how it's being shared all over the world. So now we are going to pivot and talk about what we really planned for this show to be on today, which is Costa Rica, the mission trip that we just went on. And the reason that these beautiful people are here today, joining us again for the second time. They are both previous guests, Barbara and Joe. We went on this amazing trip together to Costa Rica. It was the second trip that I was able to lead in 2024 to the country. It's amazing what God is doing, the doors that he is opening. And Judah, I don't know if you got the pictures I sent, if any of those you're going to be able to put up there. But I'm just going to give you guys in your own eyes and mouth here to share some of the trip, Barbara.

Just share a little bit about the trip before we really get going on to some specific things. The trip, Nate, was incredible. I saw from the time we left, it was just the hand of God was on everything that we did. I saw so much favor over this trip. And I just want to let people know that I know the intercessory prayer leading up to the trips, mission trips, and then even during the trips and even after the trips are so powerful. And this is just a shout out to those intercessors who pray. A lot of times you guys are the ones behind the scenes. People don't necessarily know you.

A lot of times intercessors are not people that want to be in front, but the Lord bless you so much because it's the power of prayer that really causes the Lord to move powerfully in these times

when we're in other countries and things. Even just all the favor with how we got connected with drivers and the places we stayed. Everything that things, and even just all the favor with how we got connected with drivers and the places we stayed and everything that happened. It was just absolutely incredible. So, Barbara, you're saying that our prayers matter, but God's in control. No, our prayers matter. Prayer moves heaven. God designed it that way.

That is our communication, our link with heaven, and that's how we get to partner with him we pray absolutely he's waiting to hear from us absolutely joe what are just initial thoughts on the trip well i just want to share this first of all nate did not pay me to say what i'm about to say okay so i need to disclose that right up front but there's a term in business where you say it's a turnkey operation. And really, because of Nate's planning, seriously, his heart that he invested in the time and the planning and all that. Just picture yourself, all of you listeners, picture you go on a mission trip and every single thing that you want to experience is laid out for you. You literally have to just show up and represent the Lord. I'm talking about ground travel. I'm talking about air travel. I'm talking about connections,

divine connections, where it just opens up doors to places you can't go on your own. All of it was turnkey. All of it was set up. And it was so nice to go and participate in a fashion where, you know what? All you have to do is just go and love the people and represent Jesus. It was amazing. I really appreciate you saying that, Joe, because that is my heart is for you guys to just be able to go and let loose and not have to worry or focus on anything, but just be a light, be a mouthpiece for the gospel. And, you know, the thing is, like, I learned from you guys on that trip. But one of the awesome things about that trip is, like, where we go and what we're doing, like, we really are, you know, it's like the book of Acts. Yes. And that's not like an exaggeration to say that, but in the sense that everywhere we went, encounters, whether it was even at restaurants or on the airplanes or at fruit stands, and that's not even talking about the planned evangelism and all the drug centers and the streets and the place we were going. Everywhere we went, we're giving people an encounter with Jesus, even if we weren't looking for it.

The Lord just orchestrated those things. And so really for a week, I mean, you're walking in a lot of ways as Jesus walked signs, wonders, miracles, everywhere you go, speaking the gospel, bringing truth, walking in love. And when you walk with someone for a week, that's one of the led life and what that looks like, because what we're talking about today is of the God is in control thing and all that, that we are debunking religion, right? And so many of us, we don't really know what it looks like to walk like Jesus. And so many of us to even say that, well, that's blasphemy, that's arrogant. But this is the way that he designed it. He put his spirit back in us.

He said, cast out devils, heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers. He told us to do these things. So we get out and do it, but we're not being taught at large in the body of Christ how to do that. We know how to do church. We know how to do ministry. We know how to do church. We know how to do ministry. We know how to sing songs, but to go out in our daily life, and I'm not talking about being an evangelist. This does not mean that you have to be an evangelist. This just means, are you being accessible? Are you opening your heart? Everywhere you go, just say, God, I'm available for you. I'm

available for the kingdom of God. I want you to work through me. And when you go on those trips, when you walk with certain people that have been living that life, it, um, it kind of imparts to you. And even like with walking with you guys, you know, Joe is an amazing identity teacher. And when you're with him for a week and there's things that come up that may be challenging,e is rock solid even jerry miller today said joe you are cool as a cucumber with all the stuff we had going on to the show today and you are who you say you are you're not going to get rattled by circumstances and hurt feelings and things that people say or do right so that's powerful to see that and then i walk around and see barbara and she has such a heart like she really has the uh and she missed when I shared

this to the heart of the home a couple weeks ago I think you would have laughed Bobby but you know when we were there was like one guy and I was like I knew he had demonic stuff and my mind sometimes goes to that place of um well they need some freedom and I saw maybe the the the flaws in him and and mentioned that and Barbara looks right at me and she said, I love him. And I was like, what? She's like, I love him so much. I was like, are you being serious? She's like, yes.

And she just saw the gold in him, you know, and it's powerful to me, the areas that I'm growing. I mean, you know, walking in love is so important, but you, you know, Barbara is somebody who's been truly walking in love for so long. And she's just a model of that, you know, that aspect of Jesus. And so, but yeah, when you're walking with people who signs and wonders are a part of their daily life and you see that, I think it's powerful to see, you know what? They're not trying. They're not going out of their way.

Like this just like when you have relationship with the Holy Spirit, you can just live this supernatural walk every day. So anyways, Barbara, what's on your heart? I know you got something on your heart right now. Share with me. Well, I do. And I think what you're talking about, you know, you were talking about Joe and identity. And Joe is. He understands living this ascended life with Christ Jesus.

It's powerful, the revelation he's walking in. And with you, what I saw, Nate, and I told you this on the way home, but my respect level for you went to a whole new level watching you lead this group. You have such a calling on your life as a leader. And the other thing is you have a boldness that it's a gift from God. Not everyone has that. But I saw you really in a tug of war with the Lord because the Lord was giving you a message for a particular church when we were in Costa Rica. And you even separated yourself from the group to go into this little hut place,

like a little log cabin. I'm going to call it a tree house. Okay, tree house. Yeah, that's a better description. But you went up there and laid in that bed up there and sought the Lord. And you came out and you knew what you had to do. And even though it was a tough decision, and you knew what you had to do and even though it was a tough decision and you were in that service and I watched the Holy Spirit flow through you so powerfully and how he just led you and turn things at certain times strategically I was I was just really blown away by it and then when the altar call came and the people flooded the altars, and I'm standing there ministering to quite a few women and just the tears soaking their shirt because they were being freed from a life of shame and guilt and condemnation.

They came to a realization that they have an identity in Christ and they are righteous. They're not dirty, filthy sinners anymore. They're not begging God anymore to forgive them. He has forgiven them. Jesus came. He took care of the sin issue once and for all. They are free. They don't have to live under the shame. They don't have to live feeling guilty all the days of their life because of stuff they did 20 years ago. And the freedom that I saw in that service and the powerful way that it touched so many lives in there, and even the leaders of the church, it was just a tremendous, for me, that was a highlight. One of the highlights.

There were many, but that was a very powerful. And I appreciate that about you, Nate, even though you're called to do the hard things sometimes, but thank God that he's given you that gift of boldness to be able to step out in faith, knowing that Jesus will meet you there and that you have to say what he wants you to say, no matter how hard it is. Well, I really appreciate you saying that. And you know, it's not that I don't have fear in those moments. I think this is an important opportunity to teach people because with what you're saying, when I get up in the church, I'd never done this before, but the Lord put it on my heart. I'll say it quickly. I asked anyone in the church, I said, did you believe that the gospel is a message of bondage?

Raise your hand. And thankfully nobody raised their hand. Then I said, you think it's a message of freedom? Just about everybody raised their hand. Then I said, how many of you have given your life to Jesus? Most of the people raised their hand. And then I said, if you've given your life to Jesus and you're still a sinner, I want you to raise your hand. And almost everyone in the church, including the pastor and his wife, raised their hands. And at that moment I'm sitting there thinking, okay, all right. Well, they are missing something. And the Lord has sent us here to speak truth to their hearts. But this is not easy.

You know, and I'm in those moments. I'm thinking, all right, well, they may never invite me back, but I'm going to bring what God is calling me there to do. And so you overcome those fears, and then you saw, you know, things broke. Yes. That answers the question, do we really have to go to India? Do we really have to go to Africa? Why do we have to go to Costa Rica? Because they need the truth.

They need that revelation, and they need people to bring it. That's what we're doing. Another thing I wanted to share was the team dynamics is what you were talking about I think the Lord even told you right Nate that he really wanted us to draw near and come together but to experience that over the course of a week the way that we all drew near to see the diversity of gifts and all the things the Lord's put in each one. And that when, when you're doing great, we're celebrating when we're doing great. You're in the team dynamics. It was as much a part of that trip as anything. It was like a powerful experience. Yeah. You know, when you're anytime you're with somebody for a week, um, it's one of the things that can make marriage so challenging. You can see things about people. You can find flaws in people, or you can see them the way

that God sees them and love them despite those things and we made you know we were united like you said and so um I don't know if you can get some pictures up on the screen we were going to do a slide show today but just tell me what's up there Judah because I can't even see it I want to thank Judah and Jerry for their work this year too. And sometimes we throw some challenging things on them. And today was one of those days and they handled it with class. So we appreciate y'all. Let me know what picture is up. So we're just going to start explaining, like just talking about some of the things that happened on the trip. So people have an idea. Well, what are you even talking about? Yes. All right. First one is someone's hand on a guy with alides because we was in

the rainy season all the rain he opened it up we prayed holy spirit literally had someone text me the time we were praying we didn't know if we were going to make it and um we found a driver we got there but so and it's like we i don't even like i think about the church and think about that little boy and his mom but what about that man at the fruit stand that's right because we hadn't gone there in that moment hannah our our who lives in costa rica is our our entryway into costa rica hi hannah we love you and uh becoming a nice uh an evangelist in her own right you know she starts talking to this guy at the fruit stand about about jesus and you know what's important to know is because this happened with Kai Monroe out there last week.

Almost the same thing that he said is what this gentleman said. He said, well, first of all, Kai actually said, well, why is the Lord doing this to me? And he's not. But this guy, basically, he had lived a life of sin for a long time, and he basically said he couldn't even talk about God because he didn't feel worthy to even talk about the Lord and you know that's when you speak truth and like let him know that like he he died for your sins too and you can have a fresh start and you know well open your heart to him he'll come and live inside you and all you

know all these beautiful things and this guy at the fruit stand ends up giving his life to the Lord, you know, and it was a beautiful thing. And I love that picture because that's actually my hand and we, we welcomed him into the kingdom. But then I said, let's fill him up with Holy Spirit. And so at that moment, you know, we pray for him to be filled with the Holy Spirit. It was a powerful moment, but what I love that you see about that picture, and I always tell people this, you have to believe and know that Jesus lives inside you. My breath is his breath. My voice is his voice. My touch is his touch. And all you see in that picture is a hand. Technically that was my hand, but that was God's hand. That was the hand of Jesus touching that young man and giving him new life yeah I don't know if you guys want to talk about that either one of you Joe yeah that's um

to to be able to set somebody free to prepare the way that they can even receive the gospel they can even receive Jesus he needed freedom first and and it's like you say this is not a ministry this is us going about just doing life I mean we stopped to pick up some fruit I just wanted to have a fresh coconut and so that's what we're talking it doesn't matter if it's Costa Rica if it's in Timberville if it's in Charlottesville it doesn't matter it's just doing life with Jesus that That's what you're talking about. Barbara, thoughts? Yeah, it's kind of like Jesus, you know, he went out of his way for the woman at the well. And we, if the Holy Spirit, we were praying about even crossing that mountain because it had been closed. And there wasn't a driver.

As we were praying to ask the Lord, do we go as as a team your phone rang and we had our answer and we went because Jesus saw that man even though we didn't know we were going to be stopping at a food stand Jesus saw him and he's like we have to go because this guy needs needs a touch this guy is coming into the kingdom of God and then when when we got across the mountain, we got to go and be with all the guys at the rehab center that was extremely powerful. Can you put the picture up with Barbara? And there's a Barbara and another man with like glasses and tattoos. Let me know when that's up. All right, so that's up. So I'm glad that you transitioned into that because all this is part of that journey over the mountain that we almost didn't even go on.

Where, guys, we got to minister at a drug rehab center of hardcore guys recovering from addictions. I mean, this is not the United States of America. They're not putting these guys on, you know, these whatever, opioids or whatever they put people on to overcome the drugs. I mean, these guys are cold turkey, a combination of, I guess, their own willpower, but really God. I mean, it's a ministry. And drug lords and guys that are just, you know, wanting to turn their life around, you walk in, you go to this place that's kind of in a slum in Costa Rica, and you walk in, you would never know this place existed.

And it's like this massive compound for these guys. And they just, their hearts are ready for the Lord. People that, you know, they're battered, they're broken. They don't know that God could or would love them. Why could or would God love them? And, you know, we were there to help them see that. And so Barbara, we have the picture up with the young man. So this is where sometimes guys, you just have to step out in faith. Well, how is faith spelled in the kingdom? It's spelled R-I-S-K. We went there that day with no translator, no interpreter. And we just trust it. And this guy comes up there and, you know, he's like a gangster, like holding a microphone, like, yo, yo, yo. yo. And I mean, you know, tatted up.

But he is, you know, he ended up being our interpreter. And that is a picture of him after we, after he, you know, what the beautiful thing about the interpretation, too, is those, all that truth, all that fire, that's coming through him. Yeah. And I know it's got to do something to somebody. So, Barbara, there's a picture of you where you're praying for him. What was that guy doing? I hope you remember. Well, I don't know which picture.

I haven't seen that picture yet. But I know that that one young man that ended up interpreting for you because we didn't have someone that could do it the way that we needed. And so this young man was called out. And I believe that was just the Holy Spirit orchestrating that. Because at the end of after all of us had a time to share, he wanted to receive Jesus

as the Savior. And you were able to lead him to the Lord. So he was up there preaching the gospel and the Holy Spirit touched him. And then he actually received Jesus as a savior and then some of the men that I prayed with there um they were wanting prayer for their families and a lot of different family situations and dynamics that weren't good and the Lord was having me lead them through prayers of forgiveness um you know, forgiving themselves, forgiving other people that had hurt them, and therefore opening the door for the Lord to work more powerfully

in these situations. And so I'm not sure who that is that I was with. But yeah, Nate, it was just so beautiful to see their hearts, to see the hunger in their hearts and their ability just to receive what was being said. Most of those men in there were sitting, listening, and receiving intently. And it was just a powerful thing to watch the Holy Spirit move in their lives. And I was very, very blessed by those men. So, Joe, go ahead and comment on that. Yeah, I had one of the most profound experiences of my life at that drug rehab center.

And the Holy Spirit was showing me, was showing me something really, really important. And that is that when we do deliverance, when you see healings, all these things, he was showing me that they're actually a gateway or a portal to his true treasure. And I said, what's that? He said, sharing my love. I had the most profound experience of my life. And I want to invite the listeners to just picture this. You've got a group of men have come off the street recently, drug lords, drug rehab. I mean, you're talking about destitute, rough lives, sometimes as rough as rough can be. And you have the opportunity to go in front of each one of them and tell them not only does God love them, but that I love them and that Nate loves them, that Barb. And to do so, listen to

this, Nate, without zero judgment in your heart. It's probably the first time that I experienced that in my life that I could literally look every single one of those guys in that place, look them in the face, look them in the eye, tell them God loves them and I love them in zero judgment. That's the true treasure of God that's the kingdom that's the gospel yeah it's so beautiful yes and you know what's interesting is that i don't know that this happens often but that man our interpreter he was actually sharing the gospel before he even said yes to jesus exactly isn't that cool yes so look we're gonna go we're like now we're rolling so we get done that rehab center and then we make it to barbara's favorite part of the trip which is the jungle and so we're laughing because we actually

stayed in the jungle of costa rica for one night and when i say in the jungle like we're in the jungle like monkeys in the backyard you know hooting and hollering throughout the night. And Barbara, I would love to just hear your real raw experience in the jungle. Well, I wasn't expected to stay in a place that didn't have doors and that we were in the jungle with all the wild animals, and we had encountered a gigantic iguana and had to slam on the brakes in the vehicle because it ran across the road. And so I'm in this place where the walls don't even go up

to the top of the ceiling, and there's big openings all the way around the building. It's more like an open teepee type of thing. But anyway, and to look up and see five or six lizards, big fat lizards crawling over your head, and it's time to go to bed, it was pretty intense. You know, they could drop on you at basically any moment. Yeah, and of course

in the night Nicole and I were sharing a bed and over our wall crawls a snake and slithers a snake. I thought. In the night, a snake

slithered down the side of our wall and camped right there beside, on Nicole's side, which was about a foot. The bed was about a foot away from our bed, the wall was, where the snake stopped right there beside her. And anyway, you just have to trust God in those moments. And she was afraid, and she laid there for a few hours awake. But then she just decided she was going to trust God in those moments. And she was afraid and she laid there for a few hours awake, but then she just decided she was going to trust God. She rolled over, went to sleep.

The next morning, the snake was gone. We didn't know where it went. Well, that's amazing by Nicole. So be honest. I know you trust God, but what would you have done if you woke up with that snake on the wall?

If I had seen the snake, everyone in the, in this place would have been awake and I probably wouldn't have slept anymore that night. And that's being transparent. But you know, it's such an experience with the lizards running around. It's such an experience though. And it was hard and it was challenging, but you know, you do learn to that you trust God even more in different situations. You learn more things that you're capable of doing. Right?

I mean, I remember even me, there was something, some weird stuff going on in one of the beds, some New Age stuff and some crystals and dream catcher. And I was like, you know what? I'm not sleeping in that bed. Dogs barking, stuff going on that we don't know about. And so I went outside. Literally, I'm not sleeping in that bed. Dogs barking, stuff going on that we don't know about. And so I went outside. Literally, I slept outside. And I don't even know if I realized the choice I was making, but I slept basically outside.

Oh, gosh. But, you know, the Lord got us through it, and we're all stronger for it. Yes, we grew. And that's the thing about these trips like you they form special bonds because even you know the first thing that we experienced when we got on that trip it was like we got out of the you know almost as soon as the we woke up our first day there you know we go to this house there's literally not one thing no there's not a fork there's not anything on the wall there's no furniture there's nothing in this I guess you could call it a house and in the very back room there's a woman sleeping on an

air mattress there's a bible on her bed and you know it's like we knew that the Lord you know he was sending us around the world for the one and she knew it and she started reading the bible stories back to us about Jesus and how much he loved the one. And it was such a powerful moment being in the room, you know, in those moments where that happened, this woman who was, you know, she was, they said she was dying of cancer and it's, and you know, I haven't got the testimony or heard anything else about that, but she knew that God loved her and she knew that he sent people around the world to love on her and um to to pray for her and i believed of course to heal her but um you know when we got out of there sorry i'm gonna let you go say it but when we got

out of that place we've been laughing and messing around and for about 15 minutes in that car nobody said a word it was very sobering and i think it was just uh the reality of god is sending us here on this trip with specific intent, and let's take it serious. Go ahead, Barbara. Yes. Yeah, that was a very, very powerful moment. And the other people that we went to houses and we prayed for was just really powerful. But, you know, one of the things that really stood out to me

and ministered to my heart in such a big way was I had heard about your last missions trip in February when you went. And there was a young boy that his uncle carried him in the church and he had leukemia and he was dying. They had told him to take him home because he wasn't going to live. And we went back to that church and and you i know you were hoping that we would get to see them and no one knew if they were coming or not but then during worship sometime the mom came in with the boy and to see this young boy with his mom full of life up playing and and being a little four or five-year-old child was just a miracle right in front of our eyes. And it was so incredibly powerful.

And then as you talked to the mom, realizing that she had not even accepted Jesus, and then you were able to lead her to the Lord, and she was so willing and ready because she'd seen that God saved her son and saved his life and um then she was able to stand in front of the entire church and give the testimony um in such a powerful way so that really blessed me uh just to see the power of God at work and that little boy and then that family's life yeah it's just amazing how good god is and his heart and you know like joe said we we didn't even though we had plans for the trip you know we've god's opened doors to different ministries different churches different people um but we

don't know what he's going to do no it, it was fluid. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things that really, I think we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it. Cause I know for you guys, it was also true as it was for me when we were ministering to the people on the streets, what was there 10 or 12 people there just homeless living on the streets. And we were able to connect with a local homeless shelter and we're able to take some coffee and some muffins and things out to them but that was an incredible experience in that once again no judgment no not we just got to share the love of God they opened up their hearts things happened it was just a profound experience once again. It's just really, really simple. You just go share the love of Jesus, and it opens up the way for God to do amazing things.

I'm going to ask you guys both a question that I didn't know I would ask you, but I'm going to ask each of you. So, Barbara, you'll have a second to think about it. But, Joe, being on a trip like that and experiencing the things that we experienced, do you feel like it has helped take your walk to another level? I don't think that you can understand the kingdom of God and his heart for people unless you've seen the destitute, unless you've seen and experienced firsthand the way things are around the world. I went to India earlier in the year. I went to Costa Rica. It completely changes your view of the kingdom, of the gospel, of God, his love for people. It's experiential versus head knowledge. And it's transformative.

It changes your heart. It changes your life. It changes your heart towards others. It helps you understand the love of God. It brings you in deeper. It changes your life in infinite ways. And I would just suggest to everybody, you have to, I mean, you just have to take the risk and go. It will change your life. And Barbara, I know that, you know, you've gone on mission trips before, but I know that this was a very unique one for you and all of us. I know you, me, Joe, you know, others on the trip, like we're all about learning and growing in our walk. We don't think that we've arrived and have it all figured out by any means. So maybe you can talk because look, you've been through, you know, challenge. I don't even know if maybe, gosh, just talk about what the Lord, you know, you came in there with a very challenging time where,

you know, you lost your husband to, you know, he left this earth to go be with the Lord only a few months ago. So this was very fresh for you and, I mean, a massive challenge in different ways than maybe other people were facing. So I don't know if maybe you can just talk about how you grew on the trip or anything that, you know, the Lord taught you. This trip I felt like was a gift from god to me um it's been 14 weeks today that my husband passed away and um so many things that he did for me just on a personal level even though it was our whole team from the place we were going to stay at another place, but God orchestrated us to stay at the place that we stayed at, which was so instrumental and just so powerful. And the connections that we made there with the people that own the place,

even every one of the flowers and all of this stuff around the hummingbirds, all of these different things that the Lord was giving me all spoke to me personally and things that the Lord was doing in my heart. And it was extremely powerful. And I just believe that everybody should go on mission trips because it is what Joe said. It is life-changing. And we go and we think, well, Lord, we want to go and just love on people. We want to represent you well.

We want to pour out. But what happens is we end up being poured into a lot of times more than what we even pour out. When we come back, we just feel so filled up and so touched by God by going. And it was extremely powerful, and the Lord really used it. And it was healing in my heart to go on this trip after losing my husband, but it was very beautiful. And I'm so thankful, so thankful that I was able to be on this trip. And what I love about you on that trip, Barbara, is you were truly able to experience joy. Yes. You had joy in your heart. You were able to laugh. It was sincere laugh. Um, you were able to be in the Yes. You had joy in your heart. You were able to laugh. It was sincere

laugh. Um, you were able to be in the moment. You were able to bring the heart, the character, uh, just, you know, who Jesus is to those people there. And, um, you know, I, I honor and, uh, and appreciate, it was beautiful to see you do that. Yeah. And you know, Nate, one of the things we, you guys, some of us got to go to an orphanage or whatever, but, and we, the whole time when we were talking and having meetings about the trip leading up to it, I was really, the big highlight for me is I really wanted to see the orphans. I really wanted to go and just love on some of the children and we were able you guys could go but it was ministering to the staff and we weren't allowed to see the children and even that uh one of the churches i don't know if you guys remember but we went to a church and actually found out the day that we were going that this church was in a city that's called the city of witches yeah and they throw dead chickens and the witches and stuff don't like the church being there so they throw these dead chickens and try to curse the church and stuff on the porches of the church but we went there and the lord actually sent me

this young man um who's 16 years old who was an orphan and just a heart connection with him and and we're in contact and i'm praying for him and i know that god has incredible plans for his life and so even though what was in my heart going and we didn't get to go to the orphanage the lord still orchestrated this thing for me to be able to connect with this other boy who was an orphan and just seeing Jesus touch his life and him experiencing uh you know the love of the father really ministered to me yeah it's amazing um and goodness and you guys are are leaders in the body of Christ I mean I consider myself a leader in the body of Christ and we were all impacted through this and um so we got about 10 minutes left on the show. Joe, I don't know if you could show, click just a couple of the team pictures. You can see our

entire team. I think there's a picture of, and I just want to say Barbara and Joe, you guys are two of my favorite people in the world. And I'm really honored that I was able to go on this trip with you guys. You can see that picture of us in the waterfall because, you know, you'll see a lot of things in ministry and a lot of competition and a lot of ego. None of none of that is, you know, is is the heart of God. And, you know, I really appreciate you guys because you're leaders. We're all leaders. And I wasn't like, hey, guys, I'm the leader of this trip. It wasn't me doing that. But you guys honored me as someone who prepped and, you know, essentially was the leader of the trip. There was no ego.

You just honored that, just as I would if I'm at the heart of the home to honor Barbara as the leader there or Joe. And, you know, your Bible study are places where you're the leader. We can all be followers and leaders. And, you know, you guys have never competed with me. You have just rooted me on and been motherly and fatherly in a sense, and just, just rooted on our whole family. And I just want to honor and appreciate you guys for doing that too. Well, thanks for sharing that. That's a, that's the body of Christ. Like, do you really believe you're the body of Christ? Because if you believe that we're

connected and we're the body of Christ connected to the head, then if one wins, so to speak, we all win. And that's the heart that we experienced with each other. I honor you right back the same way because you're cheering us on. We're cheering you on. We're for one another. We're together. I mean, we're literally one and it's a beautiful thing to experience. Team dynamics was about as good as it can be on that trip. It was really good. Yeah, it's family, Nate. You know, we're family.

We're part of a bigger family. You know, we're connected with the heavenly family and the earthly family here. And that's what it looks like when we come together for his purpose, not our own, for his. And just watching the Holy Spirit. You know, we talked about the young man at the drug center who gave his heart to the Lord after he interpreted the gospel. You know, as we were preaching, he was interpreting. And after he interpreted, then he wanted to accept Jesus. Well, I was just thinking, too, about the other man at this other church we were at, and you were preaching.

And as you're preaching, he's interpreting for you, and he breaks down and he's weeping. Yes. And he's crying as he's trying to interpret the words that you're speaking. Because the power of the Holy Spirit was there in such a beautiful way. And this is what touched my heart so much is that people were encountering the Father's love. Yes. Yes.

And that was my heart when I went. I'm like, Lord, I just want them to encounter you and encounter your love. And I feel like the trip was a huge success because we went in the love of God. Amen. And we were just expressing His heart and His love for people, whether we were on the Amen. Yes. Yep. Can you put that picture up? Sorry, keep going.

It's a picture of me with a young man at a restaurant go ahead keep sharing barbara well you we just made this connection with him and it was just the love of god we we all felt it towards him we we just loved him and we were you know talking to him and then you prayed for him and then you asked the lord to fill him up and then he goes home the next day when we go back for coffee again he tells us that he hadn't slept well for five years. And the first night after you prayed for him, that the Lord touched him in such a way he was able to have peace. He had peace and he was able to sleep. He was being tormented, but God set him free.

And that's the things that matter. These are things, people are going through stuff all over the place. Every day we're encountering people that are going through really hard things. And all we have to do is to be who Jesus has called us to be and love like he loves. He's loved us. And so, therefore, we can love others. And I think about Joe at that one church over in the jungle area. He was praying for this young man.

And, Joe, I bet you prayed for that guy for at least 30 minutes probably. And you were just holding him and giving him this father hug. And this big guy was weeping on Joe for a long time and just sobbing. But God was delivering him and healing his heart and that's what it's about it's about people encountering the love of the father and understanding how much jesus loves him that he died for them so anyway that's that it was just beautiful and i want and i want to say well you're you're kind of like we're going full circle here because love doesn't seek its own we went there uh just to truly represent the heart of the Father, be a light and a vessel for the kingdom of God.

And, you know, and again, love is not control. And he just guided us on the trip. He allowed us to make choices that, you know, if we hadn't have made certain choices, if we hadn't have decided, if he did not force us to go over that mountain. That's right. We made the choice to be obedient because we knew it was his heart, even though we really didn't want to go over the mountain. Right. We didn't really want to go, but he did not force us. He was not in control.

He gave us a choice. We made the choice to be obedient. And guess what? God showed up in radical, powerful ways. And, you know, you even talk about that boy. There's in that picture of the barber was talking about, this is important for anybody who's still listening to this part of the show that, uh, you know, we weren't going there casting out devils. We weren't, uh, you know, demanding things to come out. Um, all we did was, uh, just speak the kingdom of God in that boy's heart, in that boy's body, in that boy's life. And there was no twitching, there were no manifestations, but the Lord set him free in that moment. And, and, and guys, let's not make things more complicated than they need to be. Of course, sometimes, yes, you do need to get to a root, but many times they don't. So be healed, come out,

get up in the name of Jesus. That's how how Jesus prayed and you get back the next day and we didn't even need to know the testimony but I think the Lord wanted us to know that he was delivered free five years of not being able to sleep and then he could he could and you know you will learn on these trips even somebody like Nicole I think it's important to share because you know when Nicole had been getting opportunities to speak she just read through the scripture the whole time and I'm not like she's learning like we all are it's not easy to get up and share, but like at the one, at the orphanage, when Joe and I and Nicole were the only ones there that day, and we were all going to get to speak, Joe and I went to Nicole, she's looking for a Bible. I said, you don't need

that. And some people would say, well, what do you mean? Guess what? Because that Bible that it's already inside her written on her heart yes and we said you don't need to look at that bible we said you just become it and she was able to over conquer that fear of needing to be in the scripture for her message and it was beautiful even though her eyes got big and she's like oh no i don't know if i can do that and even though in another church she was gripping the microphone she was choking the microphone but I'm going to tell you what she did it it was beautiful and now she knows that she can it's written on her heart and it just rises up by the spirit and now she knows to trust that it was beautiful to see yeah yeah Nate it was you know each person, Jamie was with us, and the Lord used Jamie powerfully.

Some of the revelation that he showed in the churches when he spoke and praying for people, he saw people healed. Hannah, I see Hannah has grown tremendously since she's been in Costa Rica. I just really saw her stepping up more as a leader there and her heart of intercession and love for her country, for the country of Costa Rica. And anyway, everyone, Nicole and all of us, it was just the most beautiful, amazing, God orchestrated trip. And I'm just very grateful that I was a part of it. So we're going to talk about this quickly. We have like just only a few minutes left. I'm just going grateful that I was a part of it. So we're going to talk about this quickly we have like just only a few minutes left I'm just going to say this for anybody watching like guys to my knowledge and if you're not going to go just wait until after the air to tell me but we are planning like this is not just a one-stop shop like we are going to go back to Costa Rica I'm

probably going to go back two or three times in 2025 and we're going to be bringing teams and at least for this next trip it looks like Barbara and Joe are going to come with me I think we have one other spot that's been called for but we're only going to we're going to take eight people total counting myself so this is going to be a small intimate trip you know some of the things about it like like we have a lot of open doors we have five or six different ministries, churches, homeless shelters, people that can take us out on the streets. It gives us an opportunity to minister, an opportunity to speak. Everyone that goes on this trip will overcome some fears in the sense that if you have not spoken before, whether it's at the drug center or the orphanage, you're going to get an opportunity to speak, to share testimony, to preach. It's really hands-on.

You're going to see signs. You're going to see wonders.-on. And you know, you're going to see signs, you're going to see wonders, you're going to see miracles, you're going to see healings, you're going to see what it really looks like to walk as Jesus walked out on the streets. And you know, it's going to grow. It's going to be transformational. This is not just a mission trip. This is a transformational experience. We are actually going to do 10 sessions, probably two sessions a week for five weeks leading up to the trip, where we're going to have Joe, Barbara, myself, other leaders, some people that have been on this show in the body of Christ, trained on things like spiritual warfare and what to expect on mission trips and identity in Christ and intercessory prayer and all these

important things leading up to the trip for the trip, but when you come home and for your walk with the Lord, and it's going to be completely all-inclusive. Everything's going to be planned out. We'll be going to drug centers. We'll be going to different churches and ministries. We'll be going out on the streets. There will be an amazing excursion to the top of the mountains in the rainforest to see animals out and these beautiful waterfalls that you saw in one of the pictures.

It is, it's amazing. It's an amazing trip, great people, great food, and everything, again, will be all-inclusive. The training will be included, the flight, the hotel rooms, all the transportation. We will have a luxury van with an amazing driver and interpreter on the trip. All these things that cost money, all of your food will be taken care of. And, you know, it'll be an all-inclusive thing. But so we would love to have you come with us. It looks like for now we're going to be probably start prepping for our trip in April. And then I may start doing that as well here in the next couple of months for August. But those look like the next two trips will be April and August. And so, uh, yeah, we'd love to have you with us, but if either one of you guys,

before we go, want to just maybe, I know, of course, this is what we've been talking about anyways, but any, uh, any last thing you'd like to tell people why they should go on a trip like this, Barbara, you can go. Um, I've been saying this for a lot of years because I feel like everybody should go on a missions trip because your whole life perspective changes. You really start to get a worldview of how things are. When you're just in America, sometimes you're only seeing your culture and your life and your world. But when you go out to another nation and you experience another culture and you see people that aren't like you and they don't eat like you, they don't do things like you do,

it's just totally different. But yet you see the Lord use you in powerful ways when you go into these places and you're willing to give him your yes. And you know, Nate, you talked about choices today. You talked about God giving us choices and that he's not a controlling God. So many times I feel like in the body of Christ, he's really been showing me this lately. So many people are missing their destiny.

They're missing experiences with the Lord. They are missing powerful things that he has for them because they won't surrender and say yes. Yeah, that's really good. It's not a choice. They're making a choice when they don't make a choice to say yes, they're making a choice and they're saying no. Sometimes you just have to step out in faith, believing that he will go with you and he'll meet you there as you step out to do his will and to share his love with other people. Thank you, Barbara. We love you so much. Thank you for being on with us, even on your trip. Joe's sitting here laughing because, you know, I don't take myself too serious. Even Judah's over there laughing because this is our last show of the year and

I'm going and putting on my Santa hat and just blessing people. So Joe, go ahead and any last words? Yeah, there's something that the Holy Spirit was sharing with me and that is about cost, the cost of these trips. And the Holy Spirit said, what if we reframe it and say it's not a cost and it's an investment?

Like what price would you guys pay to not just hear about the word of God, to not just hear about stories? What would you pay to experience them for it to be a part of your life it's an investment in the kingdom it's an investment in your life it's an investment that will change your walk with God it will change your walk with people it's not a cost yes it's an investment and it's the best money you will ever spend in your life I promise you yeah thank you guys. Thank you for sharing that.

And for what it's worth, you know, if you guys want to know more on the details, you can email me directly at whitemountainminister at gmail.com or go to White Mountain Ministries, just our website. Of course, you can reach out to me on Facebook because I know a lot of people that watch the show will be watching on Facebook. But, you know, let's talk about it. We're not just letting anybody go on the trip either. I mean, that's important. Like this is for people who are hungry, not just saying, I think I'll go on a mission trip. No, that are ready to transform your walk in the kingdom of God, because you're going to be walking with leaders. You're going to be walking with people who have walked this out for

a long time. And it's's it's true it truly is transformational so honey i hope i did a good enough job uh my wife she uh i know is always watching and uh you know she sees the value in this as well and it is great uh great value so guys barbara joe i love you i appreciate you i thank you guys for coming on and um gosh i only have a minute or so so So last show of the year, guys, it's been a blessing. It's been an honor. I'm humbled by the men and women of God all across the country in different parts of the world who've come on the show, who have blessed, who have shared their hearts, their anointings, their giftings with the body of Christ. And it's just

been, it's been a good, it's been awesome, but this is just the beginning. We have a good lineup that's coming on already for, for January. And so our next show will actually be on January 7th. And I just bless you. I just speak life and love and healing over your bodies, over your minds in the mighty name of Jesus. I just speak reconciliation to your family during this time. If you've had losses, I just declare that you're able to still find the joy in the circumstances and the joy, whatever it is, wherever that you are in your life. And so a couple more things. Bridge the gap. January 18th, 2025. This is a one-day conference, okay? We're going to provide food.

There's going to be speakers, Candace Smitheman, Darby Slayton, John Martin, all that have been guests on this show. My goodness, it is going to be a powerful day. Joe, Barbara, myself, other leaders from the region will share their voice and things that we see the Lord doing for the region and for the new year. There are going to be lots of praise and worship people and kids, I say kids, college students that have been running in revival for the past nine, ten months. And it's just going to be, it's going to be a beautiful day.

So bless you. Please share the show. If you have it on your heart to support the ministry financially, there are links up there on our PayPal and for our Venmo. And we just thank our sponsors. We thank Opening Doors Real Estate, Melanie Morris. And I'm sure I'm going to get off the show and wish there was something else I shared. But you guys say bye-bye and Merry Christmas, guys.

Barbara? Merry Christmas, everyone. Blessings. I just pray that this coming year will be a year that you encounter his love more and more open your heart wide to receive everything he has for you because you are so incredibly

loved God bless you I just want to share that it's just been a privilege and an honor Nate and Barb and thank you for it and also I just want to leave the listeners with this. Don't stop. There's so much more.

Amen. Bless you guys. You've been a blessing to the show, and we're looking forward to an awesome 2025. So have a good day. Amen. Thank you.