The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Joe Hoye Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show!”

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Joe Hoye joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Amen. Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for watching, for listening, for praying, and for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, Joe, this ain't church, y'all. It is all about the kingdom of God. I am excited.

My brother, my good friend, my confidant, my brother in Christ, Joe Hoy, who is a multi-time. I believe this is actually Joe's third time on the show. So I don't want anybody to get jealous because I am pretty sure that you are the first time to be number three. So congratulations, Joe, you must be doing something right. But I know the Lord is going to work through you today. We're honored to have you. I know that people are excited to have you and I'm going to formally introduce you in just a minute. So again, thank you guys for watching. Please share the show today. That's how people are watching and seeing the show all over the world. I want to thank our partnership and sponsor

with Melanie Morris and opening doors, real estate, uh, their new location at the corner of green County album mall by the Duncan donuts and holiday Holiday Inn in Rockersville. So check out Melanie Morris Opening Doors Real Estate if you're looking to buy or sell a house. It is beautiful today. It is like 60 degrees outside. I can feel spring, and I'm excited to feel warmth walking down the street. I'm always on fire in the spirit, but it's nice to feel some warmth in the natural too. Right, Joe? Absolutely, yeah.

So one thing on my heart I'm going to share, and then I'm going to open it up for Joe. So I love it when I get to talk about my family, my wife, my children, and it just always brings joy and a smile to my face to, to, to be able to, to speak about them. And so it's interesting because we've been talking a lot about choice. Joe and I have been talking about choice today. And I felt in my heart, my son is nine years old now. He's a swimmer. He's a soccer player. He's a basketball player. He's an artist. He's prophetic. He has all these beautiful gifts. And I just felt like I wanted to talk to him about, son, maybe it's time, not that we're going to stop these other things, but to put some focus on something that you really want to be excellent at.

And I don't want to force him. You know, love always provides a choice. I don't want to slam anything down his throat, what I think he should do. And I just encouraged him to go spend some time with the Lord and say, Kai, find out what the Lord says you should put your focus on. And so he did. And Kai hears from the Lord. And sometimes things are so simple. It's interesting.

Right, Joe? on. And so he did. And Kai hears from the Lord. And sometimes things are so simple. It's interesting, right, Joe? And I went to the Walmart when Kai was spending time with the Lord. And I felt like the Lord revealed something to me for Kai. And I came home and I said, well, Kai, did the Lord speak to you on this? He said, yeah, it only took like two minutes. And he talked to me right away. And I asked Joe, I said, well, Joe, what did you think the Lord said to Kai? What did he encourage him to do? Jerry Miller, are you listening right now? I'm listening right now. I'm going to put you on the spot. Jerry Miller, what do you think the Lord, God Almighty, the Holy Spirit,

what do you think he would have encouraged Kai to do? Hearing the voice of God. Judah, anybody? Anybody want to answer? Listen to learn. Jerry Miller says listen to learn. That's a pretty good word. Yeah.

It wasn't, Kai, i want you to go play soccer every day for the rest of your life he said kai what do you want to do yeah and that's so the lord and it was a word for me because i always want to be you know walking on the path that god is calling me to walk on because I, you know, I died to myself. It's not about me anymore. Like, Lord, what, what, what are you calling me to do? And sometimes it's just as simple as it doesn't have to be a right or wrong. It can be a both. It can be an either or a both and an and, and sometimes there's two good choices, but Nathan, what do you want to do? Joe, what do you want to do? He created us to give us a choice and live this life.

We're not puppets on strings. He always gives us a choice. And so Joe, he fell right into this to start the show today because we were in the parking lot. And he looks at me. He said, Nate, he said, you know, we were going to maybe play pickleball today. But, you know, I brought some other clothes. He said, do you think I should change? And I said, well, Joe, what do you want

to do? Yep. I answered it for you, didn't I? Yeah. And I mean, it's okay. I don't think that you made the right choice on that, but I still love you and welcomed you on the show. Good. And of course, that's a joke. That's a lesson. Joe doesn't take it too serious. You look amazing and I love you and welcome to the show. So can you guys please put Joe on the screen? Hi Joe. Hey good morning. Hello everyone. You know what Nate is on and by the way we were laughing about that story you just told because how many times do we go to the Lord and pray about stuff or we're waiting on the Lord or we think it has to be this very specific thing. And the Lord's probably saying, just what do you want to do?

Like, go do it, and I'll bless it. I put those desires in your heart. Trust it, and go with it. Go for it. Exactly. Sometimes there is a right and a wrong choice, but many times it's not. And sometimes there's seasons of waiting. But so often often I just

think we get like a little crazy with it. Even myself. I said, that was a word for me. I love it when the Lord speaks to me so simply through a child, through my son. Yeah. And the other thing I want to share is, is I don't know about you, but all the guests that you have on the show, all the people that I've encountered recently, there's this common refrain that is so exciting, and it's that the Lord is on the move. The Lord is pouring out His Spirit. The Lord is accelerating things. The Lord is doing things we have never seen before. I'm telling you, Nate, it's a fun time to be a part of this kingdom.

And I just look forward to 2025. It's already started out beautifully, but I just cannot imagine what he's going to do this year through all of us. I'm talking about the whole body of Christ. It's a really, really exciting time. And I'm talking about people that are going to the nations, people that are coming, people like Brian Britton and others that you've had on the show. Everywhere they go, you come back, and what are they saying? God is on the move. God is moving powerfully.

God is doing this. God is doing that. It's like a fun time to be a part of the kingdom. Yes, it is. Yeah. Sharing the gospel all over the world. I'll use this as an opportunity to just say really quickly, too, because Joe will be coming. We'll be going to Costa Rica together at the end of April, the last week of April.

And there's going to be Joe, myself, two others that have been guests on this show, which means they are anointed powerful men and women of God who walk in love and represent Jesus everywhere they go. And it's going to be powerful. And we still do have two more spots available for the trip. So reach out if you're interested and you feel hungry about going to Costa Rica to share the gospel for a week. So Joe, here's what we're going to do. This is going to be a little bit different because it's going to be on what we've been discussing. Joe and I, I just want to share this. You are one of my closest friends. I love you. We talk often. I love you. We could sit here and we will. We've already talked for hours today

about the gospel and now we're just going to come bring it and other people can hear. And I also want you guys to participate. If you have questions for Joe, if you have comments, please write in if you're watching live and ask, and maybe there's some things that we can answer directly. But, you know, I just want to say that I love people and we're called to not live in isolation. We're called to live in fellowship and we're called to be out in the community. But for me personally, I'm an open book. I don't have secrets, but there's also on the flip side, not a lot of people that I really let into the deep thing

going on in my life, but you are one of those people. And I just want to say that you are, you represent the heart of the father. Well, you're a true kingdom man and I trust you and I honor you and I love you and I just appreciate you. So with that said, you're a true kingdom man, and I trust you, and I honor you, and I love you, and I just appreciate you. So with that said, we're going to flip the script about what we're talking about today. Normally, I start off the conversations, but you are our kingdom connection today, and I'm going to say, Joe, what do you want to do? What do you want to do? What do you want to

talk about, Joe? I want to talk about the standard that Jesus has provided for all of us. Because what the Lord showed me is he said, he said to me, the Holy Spirit said to me, Joe, you're not living trying to get or attain victory, going to victory. You are living from victory. And Nate, the thing about it is we don't set the standard. Jesus does. And does anybody in the kingdom, anybody in the body of Christ have the right to lower that standard? I say no. And so my heart is this, is that we got to help each other. We have to iron has to sharpen iron. We have to continue to press on. We got to continue to seek the face, to seek the kingdom, because I refuse

to lower the standards, whether it be divine health, whether it be relationships, whether it be finances. I don't care what it is. I'm not rewriting the book. I don't have any right to rewrite the book. Jesus set that standard. And what we all want to do is together come up higher, because that's the calling on our life. He calling us all higher there's infinitely more and the lord has given me a passion for it and it's beyond what we can think or imagine but the thing is what do we believe right and do we believe that we have victory right in that sense because so many look the enemy has been defeated. Yes. He's a withered awful branch. But if he can make you believe that you're defeated or that you don't have victory, he will do that. And he is doing that. Absolutely. Like even let's go back to even more basic. Do you

believe that your old life that you died with Christ? Do you believe you went into hell with Christ? Do you believe you were resurrected with Christ? Do you believe you've ascended to the right hand of the Father with Christ? I'm talking about basic elementary things that are life-changing beliefs. Do we even believe these things? Because if you don't, you will never step into the call on your life. And this is not just like Joe theology. This is gospel. This is written in your scriptures. You can go to Romans six. You can go to Colossians two. You can go to Ephesians two. You can go to Hebrews 10. So many things that talk about that. What would happen if we all really believe that we are brand new? What would happen if we really believe that our old life is dead, that we walked

in freedom? And the reason I'm so passionate, Nate, is because this is what the Lord paid for. This is what he's redeemed. And it's not just for us to walk out our best life. It's because that's what he deserves. That's what he paid. He took on a human body, came down here, suffered what he suffered, that you and I could walk in victory, you know, constantly higher, higher, higher, higher in a victorious life. That's what Jesus deserves. He deserves the glory. And when we fall short, and we all do, and I get it, it's a progressive walk. It's something that happens over time. It's where there's harmony between the spirit and the soul and the body. It takes time. But Nate, the amount of time, that's dependent upon us. It can either be an 11-day journey to the promised land or 40 years.

And every choice we make every day, our whole life, what we experience, it's our collective choices. And what I'm saying is the Lord is saying for each and every one of us that's listening here, there is so much more for you. Choose me. Seek me. Come to me first. Make me preeminent. Make me the primary thing in your life and just watch your life change. That's my heart for all the people. And I have love and I have mercy and grace for all these things, but I will not settle. I'm not going to rewrite the scriptures. I'm not going to say that when we fall short, it's okay. Oh, well, because it's not. And I know that may sound hard and it's hard for some people to take it, but I can't, I cannot settle. What would happen to us or what would have happened to us if Jesus settled? If Jesus

in the garden of Gethsemane said, I'm done, bring the 12 legions of angels. What happened if he quit on the night of his arrest? What if he said, okay, come angels and get me out of this place. I'm done. Yeah. And you know, I know it's interesting you say that. I know that some will say because he is love, that he didn't even actually have a choice to do that. But I probably lean towards technically he could have said, I'm not going to go on the cross. That's exactly right. He could have. He said, could I not call 12 legions of angels down? He willingly, no one killed Jesus right Jesus willingly laid down

his life in fact he agreed to it before the very foundation of the earth because Jesus was slain before the foundation of the earth so the same thing that motivated Jesus to reconcile us to the father should motivate us to reconcile others back to the Lord. Yes. That same love. He gave us new life, and he not only took away all of our sin, I think a lot of us seem to understand that piece on some level, but it also says that he bore all of our sickness and iniquities on the cross. Yeah. So many people, and this has been talked about at length. It's all for the sweet by and by. It's all for the later. But the kingdom is a reality right now. Salvation today is a day of salvation. Every single thing that was forfeited in the garden has been redeemed. His blood was

enough. His blood is enough. His blood will forever be enough. He has purchased back, redeemed every single thing that was forfeited in the garden. We have the victory life. We have, Jesus said in Matthew over 30 sometimes, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. It is a present reality that we're living a life, supposed to be living a life from victory. and that makes me passionate because that's what our lord has purchased that's what he's redeemed and i just like you want to glorify him all that we can for what he's done what he's provided so coming from a place of victory there are many who don't understand who they are in Christ. So what is it?

Why do you believe or see that people are not understanding that they have victory? Yes, some of the things that we touched on. So how do I get to know you? Spend time with me. Spend time and we talk and we commune together. How do you get to know your spouse? It's the same thing. You spend time, you're in each other's presence, you're talking, you're communing, you're spending all this time together. The only way that we know who we are is to know who Jesus is. And I'm afraid that there's too many people that are either living vicariously

through others, or they're afraid of it, or it's been through bad teaching, or sometimes it's really horrible experiences, the way they've been raised, whatever. There's a multitude of reasons why, but really, in a nutshell, is people do not understand their true identity. They don't understand that Jesus came and he's made us brand new. They're hanging on to the old. They're listening to the lies. They're in deceit and falsehood. And I see a lot of growth in some places. This isn't all, but there's so many that are still trapped in their old life. They're like living from the earthly realm. And God is saying, listen, you're seated with Christ. You're seated in him in heavenly places. You're a brand new creation, a new speed. When you study it in the original languages, it says you're a new species of being

and too many people made their trap in the old. Yeah. This gospel, it's not a message of bondage. It's a message of freedom. So I encourage people that are watching this show now or see it later. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, if he's living on the inside of you and you still see your life as being in bondage. Take it to the Lord. Email us. Reach out because God wants you to know that you are free. You do not have to live in bondage anymore. You don't have to live in sickness. You don't have to live in poverty. You don't have to live in disease, hate, unforgiveness, insecurities, comparison. None of those things are of the kingdom of God. We're free from that. And when we believe such things, we don't actually mean to do this in our hearts. When we believe those things, you are partnering with the enemy.

You're actually, here's what you're saying. If I could paraphrase it, you're actually here's what you're saying if I could paraphrase it you're saying like what Jesus came and did and suffered for us was not enough you're actually partnering with a lie you're partnering with this seat you're not understanding that listen to this he paid the highest price ever paid for anything and it was enough in the father's eyes to redeem us all and to redeem it all. So it says, when Jesus sets you free, you are free. That would be worth the price of admission today. If people could leave this podcast and understand, man, I am really free because it's not based on what we do. It's based on what he already has done. That's right. When he said on the cross, it is finished. I don't think we understand the implications. It is truly finished. He's

purchased it all. He's done it all. He's redeemed it all. It's finished. Amen. Yeah. And look, we both have a passion and, um, a boldness to bring truth that bring this truth to people because oh my gosh to be able to to live this life and know that we have been given dominion and power and authority on the earth it's such an incredible gift it is and we just have a passion it's it's not our hearts to try to guilt or shame but just for people in the body of christ to wake up to see this no we want to actually love people higher is what we're trying to do and and in luke 10 19 he says behold i give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions and power over all the enemy. And listen to this.

The end of it says, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. So here's my heart. If Jesus paid for that, if Jesus redeemed that, I want us to walk in it. Jesus taught me. He said, Joe, you should be bold for one reason. You don't have any reason to be bold of yourself, but be bold because of what I've done. So our boldness is born of Jesus and it's wanting people to come higher. It's wanting them to live, you know, the greatest life that he's redeemed and that he would get the glory. That's the whole

foundation of it. It's nothing more. It has nothing to do with us being bold or arrogant or prideful. It's all about what he has done. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a life-changing thing if you can receive it. Absolutely. Yeah. And oh my goodness, it can be challenging at times because I see so many people, so many people that are Christians that are walking in sickness, pain for many years, and many that think that God is okay with it, that he's allowing it, that he caused it, that they're being punished. And those are all just complete lies. And I even see, you know, some that, um, I mean that poor young girl in, in Costa Rica, remember that we went over to pray for, and I mean, she was one of our

interpreters for the day and she was watching people healed, being touched by God, crying. And, um, you know, she, I don't even remember what it was, but there was something that had been with her for most of her life, some kind of disability. And she was so heck bent on, you know, this is the way God made me and this is the way I'm supposed to be. And you're not going to pray for me because this is this almost define her. Yes. But it was such a lie. It almost becomes like a like a crazy badge of honor or something. Like they hold on to these things.

They hold on to the deceit. Did you know what I believe? Because whenever we look at stuff or talk about stuff, you got to try to get to the root. And you know what? At least one of the roots of the problem is we don't want responsibility. If I say that God's doing this or God did this or he's using it or, you know, you can really twist things to take all the responsibility off of you and actually believing. The Lord was talking to me

last week, which I shared at Heart of the Home Family Ministries about his word. And I held up the Bible and I said, is this the word of God? And I think 85% of the people said, yes. And of course it is the word of God in some ways, but listen to this. It's the written word. It's the written word of God. And so the Holy spirit directed me. He said, Joe, I want you to think about the apostle John. The apostle John was the one that Jesus loved. He knew intimacy more than anybody else with the Lord. How did he open his gospel? He said, in the beginning was the word. He's pointing way back to creation where God spoke his rhema word, spoke the whole creation into existence. In the beginning was the word. In the beginning, the word was with God and the word was God. What was the point Holy Spirit was trying to teach me and show us

is that Jesus is the word of God. Every single thing that's in the Bible, every promise, every covenant blessing, all the spiritual laws, every single jot and tittle that's in there is backed by the personhood of Jesus. Jesus is the word of God. The Bible is stories and prophecies and historical accounts and all these things about Jesus. But I don't know if this makes sense, but Jesus is Jesus. He wants us to know him. He wants that intimacy. And I'm afraid that even something as good as the word of God can come between us and intimacy with God. It can become a crutch. I think I shared with you earlier today, there was a period in my life where I read 20 chapters of the New Testament every day. And so in two weeks, I was reading the New Testament every

two weeks. Do you know how much that helped me with intimacy with Jesus? Zero. That's the point he's trying to make is I desire intimacy with you. Get to know me. You know, the Matthew seven verse, you did this, you did that in my name. And I will say, depart from me. I never knew you. And that word, know you that knew you that's talking about marital intimacy. That's talking about knowing one another in a deep intimate way that's yeah that's why we're created that's what he wants first so he's just showing me like he is calling us into relationship and i would just say that clearly you the lord speaks to you through the scriptures yeah right yes yeah and and and you're not saying don't read your bible but like shane

lily said this morning i said i'll you get one more time shane i give you credit not saying don't read your Bible. But like Shane Lilly said this morning, I said, one more time, Shane, I give you credit for it. I don't take it. So many in the church, it's like Father, Son, Holy Scriptures. Yeah. But it's Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And I like to always say that like, you know, the sports guy, we talked about sports a little bit about the beginning of the show. For me, it's like this Bible, this written word of God as a sports analogy, the Bible is like the playbook, but the Holy Spirit is the play-by-play. Yeah.

And I even shared with you, like, I'm a word guy. I get into the original languages. I mean, you called me old school, and I am an old school dude when it comes to the word of God, because I'll look up the footnotes and I'll go look up the cross references. I love the word, but what the Lord is saying is there's something more important. There's something higher. There's something far more important. And that is, I am the word of God. I want to have a deep, intimate, personal relationship with you. And this will help feed that. I know when I, you know know after the lord set me free i became consumed with the scriptures and it literally came alive but this is just a part of that relationship and and this and i know you agree with that yeah but um there's so many it becomes concerning

because there's so many in the body of christ it's like we think that the only way that we can know or hear from God is by reading this book. Yeah. And what if the Bible, what if the word of God was simply an invitation into relationship? Yeah. I think it all flows back to relationship. Because Jesus, what did he do? He went and spent immense amounts of time with the Father in communion. Jesus ministered on the earth out of one thing, what he saw, not what he heard, what he saw the Father do. See you later, Jerry. What does seeing what the Father does, what does it require? Presence. No, it's good of what you're're saying too, because Jesus clearly knew the

scriptures. Yeah. But when I don't think we, I'm sitting here thinking about it. I'm not sure of any time I remember after he saw signs and wonders and miracles where he said, Hey disciples, I'm going to read the Bible. Yeah. Well, I guess at the time it was the Torah, right? That's right. But he said, I'm going to be with my father. He went to the mountain to pray. Intimate, alone conversation with God. Absolutely. What about Moses going up into Mount Sinai in the presence of God, where God revealed all these things to him that he did not have? It's really like, I've talked about that also a while back about this presence-driven life. Because all the questions that we have, all the answers that we're looking for, all the things that we're facing, you know where the answer is? In the very presence of God.

He says, boldly come into the throne of grace, right? The veil is torn. We do not understand those terms. And I would even say, to piggyback on what you said that means all the answers are right here that's right because he lives right here he lives right and jesus said repeatedly over and over and over again because they thought it was a kingdom to come and he kept saying to him over and over to all the religious pharisees and the sadducees that the kingdom of heaven is at hand. I think I counted

it in the book of Matthew one time. There was over 30 times he said the same thing. Well, if we spent as much time talking about the kingdom being here now, you know, we always want to talk about Jesus when he's coming back, when he's coming back. Well, why don't we go share him now? He's here now. He's alive now. He's right here now. That's where we're to, we're light carriers and glory carriers, and we're supposed to spread his glory throughout the earth. The Lord is looking to bring heaven to the earth through us. We're the portals. We're the vessels. We're the way that God connects heaven and earth. And we have to understand that's our identity. We're representing Jesus. We don't lack for

anything. God lives only inside of us. We have the Holy Spirit. We have our identity. We're representing Jesus. We don't lack for anything. God lives only inside of us. We have the Holy Spirit. We have his nature. We're a brand new creation. We have raising the dead power on the inside of us. God withheld nothing. We're the ones that are supposed to represent Jesus throughout all the earth.

Nate, you know this from your ministry and what you do. When you go into a place, you go into an environment, the place changes. The environment changes. That's carrying his glory. Well, look, I like to give, when I preach, when I share the gospel, I basically share testimonies, things I've seen God do, my relationship with him. And it gets backed by scripture. But what you were just saying, like we just went to a restaurant to eat. I don't think I had been there in four or five years. I recognized the woman behind the counter. I was like, didn't I pray for you years ago? And she's like, oh no, that was so-and-so.

I think you said her name was Ashley. I don't even remember the girl's name. But what you're saying is you talk about changing the atmosphere. It's five years later and she still remembers the impact of me praying for that young girl. She had been in a bad car accident, terrible back pain for many years. I prayed for her. This girl actually saw light shine through her body. The Lord healed her. And even though this woman was not the one I prayed for five years later, she still remembered it. That's right. And you know, we are called to be a light everywhere we go for the kingdom of God. And we had this little conversation earlier about, well, why don't more people have encounters with God? Because so many of us, it's like we have some revelation that he's good or maybe that he's alive. But I think a lot of it does actually come back to what we've been taught in the sense that we don't actually know or believe that that's possible.

And because of that, you know, when I was delivered and when I was just speaking about that restaurant, God did that through a person, right? Like he's designed it to work through us. Like it's this false humility that we have to think that God is just always going to come in sovereignly, but it's like, we're always waiting on God, but he's waiting on us. When are you going to go, Joe? That's right. When are you going to go, Judah? And so I think that if there were more people who actually understood the power, the authority that we carry, the spirit is living on the inside, people would be having encounters all over the place. Yeah. And you got to have, and I know you do, and I do too, you've got to have mercy and grace for where people are in their walk.

Because I was trapped, and here's how I describe it, I was trapped in a sin consciousness and self-consciousness for years and years and years until I got the revelation of that righteousness, the very righteousness of God is a gift. God imputed righteousness to us. It's a gift based on what his son has did, not our life. And when I was able to receive that in my heart, I started to get free of sin consciousness. I started to get free of self-consciousness and it started to free up the truth to be revealed into my heart. That's what transforms you when your heart is changed. I mean, that's what you're talking about. People experience God in that restaurant.

They had a literal experience with the power of God. That stays with you. Yes. That's what we're actually here to do. And there's a scripture that says the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. And I know I'm talking to a guy that's all about the power because that's the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. And I know I'm talking to a guy that's all about the power because that's the call on your life to walk in that, to model that, to take that everywhere that you go. I don't even know if you remember at the coffee shop,

we experienced the same thing this morning. There was something locally going on and there were people in there that were in fear. able we were able to have simple little conversations that completely dispelled that fear in a moment's time in a normal coffee shop with a normal conversation without two kingdom men in the room that conversation would have escalated into fear there were people that said they wouldn't leave the coffee shop because somebody came on the radio and said don't leave your house today because of something that happened. They had been in there for hours. Hide it. I've been in here all day. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like what? We're like, you can go, you're going to be okay. I speak peace and, and, and life and protection and all

the fear to go. And then that girl was like, amen. And she got up and she walked out and they got beside it. She's like, yeah, God is with you. Yeah, they lit up. Get that nonsense out of your vocabulary. Fear is not of God. I mean, the media sensationalizes everything. They want you to live in fear everywhere you go. Exactly right. It's ludicrous. And what we're talking about is.

Those things broke like that. It might have only been five people, but it broke. That whole back area of the coffee shop changed in an instant. Yes. And you know what we did? All we brought was some glory and some light, some truth. And here's where I want to go. It's like, they're looking to this earthly realm. This earthly realm, if you're a follower of Jesus Christ, this is not our portion. We brought the heavenly realm. We brought the light. We brought the light. We brought the glory. We brought the truth through Holy Spirit by Jesus. And it changed that whole

environment. It changed the atmosphere. That's supposed to be everywhere we go and everything that we do. That is why we're here. We are primarily here. Our lives are to serve Jesus, to glorify Jesus. Everything else follows that. And it's, we make it too hard. And, you know, instead of just giving into the conversation, right. It could have been easy for us to say, oh man, that's going on. Well, all right, well, we better say no. It was just very simple of not, of responding to a worldly situation with a kingdom solution. That's right. Very simple.

In a kingdom way, with language that is laced with grace, with love, with mercy. I mean, we're not beating people over the head. You're just using words of love that just sets them free. And they're like, oh, yeah. Like they just immediately received that they got it and it changed the whole and the one said i'm going i'm leaving i'm like she's been there four hours yes so that's i mean that's what we're talking that's the impact of the kingdom

and and you know here's the thing we talk about choices and consequences the choices and learning from decisions that we make and things that happen in the past. Like, my gosh, this is just like, that's a microcosm. I mean, we were convinced to stay in our houses for six months, five years ago. Yes. It's the same stuff. Have we not learned from this? Yes. Like seriously, like we have to grow from that and realize, oh my goodness. And do not conform to the patterns of these this world but be transformed through the renewing of your mind we have to renew our mind and change the way we see and see things and live in another world live in the kingdom of god and see things from a heavenly perspective instead of a worldly one and that's what i'm talking about is that word

transformation and you just quoted romans 12 2 that word transformation you and you just quoted Romans 12.2, that word transformation, you know when Jesus was on the Mount of Transfiguration? Is that what that is? Yeah, Romans 12.2. I'm messing with you. Oh. I know one or two scriptures. That's my birthday, 12.2. Oh, that's right.

So that I live, I'm just, you know. That's your scripture, yeah. I forgot. I haven't messed with you too much today. No, you've been pretty good. So anyway. Keep rolling. Transformation, right? We'll go to the

Mount of Transfiguration. When Jesus, his clothes, his personhood, he was in the presence of God in the glory. Do you know that word transfigure and the word transform? Same exact Greek word. What's my point? We're actually, that's what we're supposed to be, is transfigured more into our Christ-likeness, and all of us together, we carry that throughout the earth. That, you could say I'm wrong, you could disagree, but I'm telling you that's actually a responsibility that we have. We have a responsibility to God. We have a responsibility to the body of Christ. That is the call. We're all ministers of reconciliation.

We are to image and reflect and model Jesus to this world. We cannot go in the coffee shop or the grocery store and look like everyone else. Exactly. We can't. Because how can the world want what we have in Christ if we don't know what we have in Christ and we're not representing that well? Because if it's that, I'm serious, like take me home. That there's no purpose in life. There's nothing. There's no redeeming qualities to any of that stuff.

We have an incredible calling. What an honor and a privilege it is to be a part of it. God is moving mightily throughout all the earth. Things are accelerating in an incredible way. We're going to experience things, and we already are, that is really beyond what you can think or imagine. I mean, what a privilege, what an honor, what a joy. But these are the things God, at heart of the home, is continuously calling us up higher. Just like he said to John in Revelation come up here there's things I have to show he's calling us up the mountain he's calling us into that seated position Nate so we can walk out this victory so there's actually fruit yeah it's such it's like you said it's such an honor

to represent him I mean my goodness from for most of my life, I was a sports fanatic. And I was so like, not that I don't wear gear at times now, but I want to rep him. He's my team, the kingdom of God. And we have victory. And it's beautiful. I don't have to worry about the record. The record is undefeated always at all times. Yeah, you said that. And I love that. It is. We're an undefeated always at all times. Yeah. You said that. And I love that. It is. We're an undefeated team and there's no chance of us losing a game. Yes. Will we allow the Lord to bring that revelation into our hearts? Will we spend time with them? Will we get to know him? Because when we get to know him, we get to know ourselves. There's many people that are trapped in deception because they don't know who they are you guys are undefeated in

christ amen hallelujah so we're going to go because you have a good revelation on this a good teaching and we're talking about living from above and i know this will go into some other conversation which will be great but uh talk about some of the revelation on the uh the feeding of the 5 000 if you could yeah i mean the g the lord has spoke to me about that repeatedly and of course uh so they've been there for days jesus have been teaching and and and the whole the um disciples come to jesus they send them away they need to go get something to eat and jesus flips it on him like completely. He says, you give them something to eat. So the first thing I want people to understand is when Jesus is saying that to the disciples, he is literally saying that to us today, you give them something to eat. And Jesus would not say we could do that if we could not do that and what he showed me was look at closely at the response of

the disciples they use these words nate we only have five loaves and two fish the holy spirit said to me joe i will never say i only have that is language of lack and and so they said we only have five loaves and two fish jesus knew that he was to take what he had, the five loaves and two fish, look up to a different realm, not the earthly realm. The earthly realm is a realm of lack. He looked to his father. He looked at Jehovah Jireh. He looked to his provider. How did he know to do that?

Relationship, communion, just what we're talking about. So he looks to the Father. You always take what you have. You bring it to the Father, blessed it, broke it. And not only was there enough for 5,000 men plus women plus children, God showing us who he is and what we have, 12 baskets left over. There's more. There's always more. He is is saying to us you're looking in the wrong realm that our truth and our abundance and the whole heavenly treasury is ours now but you got to look to jehovah you got to look to the true provider

we're looking to the earth we're looking to pensions we're looking to jobs we're looking here we're looking there This is the wrong place. We don't look in the seen realm. Our provision, our answers, our truth, all of it, it's in the unseen realm. And guess what? He uses us to connect the two. We lack nothing. God has withheld nothing from. What did he say to the elder son in the parable of the prodigal, the lost son? He said,

all that I have is yours. Yeah. If he wanted us to live in lack and in poverty, he would have put Adam and Eve in a bakery and it'll run out instead of a garden, but that never lacks. It's an abundance. Yeah. And, and, uh, and I know you've had Barb on several times. We love John 10, 10, because that scripture draws a clear line in the sand that anything that, that the thief comes to kill, steal and destroy. So anything in your life that, that has to do with death or premature death or stealing or destroying your life, that is not of God. That's of the enemy. And we just miss that all the time. Jesus said, I have come that you would have life and have it more abundantly. Nate, that word abundantly is like it means excessive overflow in your life.

In every area of life, there's something called the Zoe life. It's a God. Like. Life. That's what Jesus paid for. We're heirs to the throne. And when? Now or later?

Now. Now. He doesn't want us to. I mean. And this is not a prosperity gospel. It's not. Because you know. Sometimes we get.

So extreme. And we can see that that's off. We can twist it. We almost make ourselves believe that as Christians we're supposed to live as paupers. It's just complete nonsense. Which is an absurdity because that whole abundant life, like we're heirs of God and co-heirs with Jesus. And the scriptures even go on to explain that what has to happen is the testator, the testator of the Testament has to die. Well, my question is, did Jesus die? Well,

yes, he did. That releases the whole estate. People do not understand our estate, our inheritance is released and was released when Jesus died. It's all ours, but it's only going to manifest. Why doesn't it manifest? It's going to manifest out of relationship. It's going to manifest out of intimacy. If he cannot trust us with it, he will not release it into your life. It will crush us. It will actually separate us from God. It will do the opposite of what he wants it to do, and he wants to bless his children. But if we lack the character, if we lack the maturity, how can he release it? We're actually getting in the way of what he wants to do. But anything that is of the enemy, he steals, he kills, he tries to destroy.

God came that we would have an abundant life. That's the truth of what the Father has for us. That's right. Yeah, the Father has for us. That's right. Yeah, I want to share something. I'll piggyback on what you were talking about, the feeding the 5,000. Because I remember, I don't know if I've ever shared this on the show or not, but I'm sure there's new people that would watch this episode. So I'm going to share it.

Because years ago, I remember, we talk about asking questions. I mean, relationship, asking god's questions even like kai this week he said what do you want me to do well what do you want to do kai yeah yeah but i used to ask the question like lord because i knew that he was a supernatural god i was already signed it's starting to see signs and wonders and miracles in my life but it's like because you hear so many people say well, these are just stories. These are just teachings. And I used to ask the Lord, I'm like,

did you really turn two fish and five loaves of bread and feed 5,000 people? Was that like a parable? Was that a teaching? Did you do that? And so it was a question. It wasn't that I was doubting it necessarily. It was just a question. It wasn't that I was doubting it necessarily. It was just a question.

Did that happen? And so he led me to a man, and I was sharing my testimony because that was at the time where I still didn't even really, like me sharing the gospel was basically me sharing my testimony of what God did. And I was sharing the gospel. But I just shared my testimony because it was all I knew. And when I would do those things, it would make, allow, I should say, people to open up about things that they've experienced with God. And many times they rarely share because, you know, we're convinced by the world that like, you know,

you don't wear your face on your faith on your sleeve. You keep these things to yourself, but our testimony is so, so powerful. And so I was sharing the testimony and this man, and I trust him implicitly, and he's not somebody that would ever make this up. He wasn't looking for attention. It wasn't on a platform. He started sharing about a time that they were in Mexico on a mission trip. Do you know this story? No.

You don't know what I'm about to tell you? No. Okay. And they were feeding the homeless. They were feeding people in poverty, and they had a couple coolers full of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. And the people just kept coming. And they ran out. And so they just didn't know what else to do.

So they looked to the Father in heaven and just prayed for more. And, well, they opened up those coolers of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. And they were completely refilled by God and they were you know they didn't run out they were able to feed everyone and it's like okay well if God used this just man who didn't even really know who he was to feed this town of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches he absolutely fed those 5,000 people with those two fish and five loaves of bread and I just think it's amazing because these stories are getting relived they are through us but we have to believe and have the faith and also the um just the uh again the faith

to ask right and sometimes it's to ask sometimes it's to declare right yeah and so so along those storylines the same parable the Lord was showing me, he said, the reason I'm showing you this is that I'm the word of God, that I want you to believe that every single thing that's in every parable, everything that's in there, I'm backing that up. Like, I'm standing, he's looking to perform his word, right? So Nate, what you're talking about, that man was operating with a complete, there was no doubt. There was no wavering.

There was no questioning of any kind. You know Heidi Baker. And I would actually say there might have been some doubt, but there was at least a mustard seed of faith to even ask, to even believe that the Lord could do that in that moment. That's right. And he's saying, and here's what the Lord was trying to get me to understand. And I think he wants us all to understand this, is that when you're in a relationship, that's how you learn to rest and trust in somebody. That's how you know that God is good, not sometimes, but all the time.

And when you come into those situations, you can't get that in an instant. That's something that's crafted and done over time in relationship. That's why he was telling me, I'm the word of God. I'm the one that's behind every one of my covenant blessings, every one of my promises. I'm standing behind my word. I'm watching to perform it. And Holy Spirit even said this, and it's challenging. I'm not there yet. I'm just telling you. He said, what you guys call like absolutely crazy amazing good blah blah blah on and on we go crazy and he said that is normal yeah that's God like that's that's the kingdom life like Jesus when he did that when he ministered on the earth to him that was normal and that's a stretch for me I'm not

there I at least I'm on the journey I'm on the path he's taken me but I just think that's like that's who he is that's his heart I used to think that a miracle was something like I think I thought that like the definition of miracle was something that only happened like once in a lifetime yeah but now what i see is that a miracle is something that only comes through god that's right but it can happen every day that's right we can walk that out every day yeah it supersedes natural laws but it's a normal every day that's how it's supposed to be anyway and that's what he's trying to get our hearts to receive um what he said about the word receive like you know you have to receive these things but if you look up

that word it's like nate it's like take hold of it like grab it seize it the promises and all the things that he has it's not a passive thing take it and grab it and believe it and stand on his word and it will come to pass. He will perform it. He wants to. That's what unconditional love says. He also told us that you will do even greater works than me. That's right. And why is that? He said, because I'm going to the Father. Well, what does that mean? That means because God himself and the Holy Spirit came to live only inside of us. So the same power that was used in the creation account, the same power that raised Jesus from the dead, literally dwells in us. What would happen if we all started to believe that more?

What would happen if we continued to seek his face, to seek first the kingdom, to know him so intimately that we actually trust that that's true. What would that mean? And I think we are seeing, we're seeing fruit all over the world. We've experienced it, but know this there, and you know it, there's infinitely more. He's calling us to the more. He's calling us to where all these things that Jesus did, we can do that and we'll see even greater things. Because it's all purchased, it's all redeemed, it's all paid for, and it's our new normal. And it's to glorify him on the earth. He's alive. That's what my heart's cry is, is that Jesus would get what he deserves. What is that? All the glory.

I mean, if we know that and we believe that we could live this life well i don't i don't know why anybody wouldn't want it let me ask you a question like when you minister with jesus and you see the power of jesus and you know he's right there ministering with you is there anything better in life i mean i have a great passion for it, but you know, here's the thing we were talking about this this morning at the, at the breakfast at the pastor's meeting, we have this scripture about, you know, prophesying and casting out devils in my name and healing the sick, but without love, then you you've missed it. Right. Right. And sometimes we take that and make it into, Ooh, well that stuff's not important yeah but our heart

posture if we're doing those things casting out devils healing the sick raising the dead prophesying his name through a place of love to represent jesus to show people that he loves them that he sees them that they have destiny and value and purpose on his life, that he's alive, that you can live heaven on earth today. It's a beautiful thing. So when I pray for people, it's not to see a miracle. I love to share testimonies, but I'm not sitting there thinking, oh, I get to share a miracle today. It's no, I get to show this person that God is alive and he loves them. And he's right here. He's not way out there when we pray I'm praying right here he lives inside us yeah and what you're talking about is something that's uh man it's more important in the kingdom I think than we understand Nate what I'm talking about is

the motivations of our heart right and and I don't know about you but I need the Lord to help me to continually cleanse and and help improve the motivations of my heart so I don't know if the listeners actually understand that if you feel like that's not something that is you're walking in the fullness that cry out to the Lord ask him like pray it say Lord help purify the motivations of my heart. In whatever you're doing, in marriage, in relationships, when you're out, whatever it might be, ask him actually to purify and sanctify the motivations of your heart. I pray it all the time. I need the help. I can't do it on my own.

No, I'm with you. And I'm just laughing because when I take people out to evangelize, it's not a trick question, but it's just an honest question. It's like, are you going out today to see miracles? Yeah. I'm like, okay, well, you're actually going out to represent the heart of the father. You're out to love people. And when you do that from a sincere heart and your agenda is not just to see a miracle or a healing, watch what happens. Yeah. To show, to go out with the right heart posture. Yeah, because at the end, in 1 Corinthians, at the end, the very end of chapter 12, it says, I will show you a better way. And then it goes into 13, the love chapter. And that's what he's really teaching there is that the motivation for all of this, if you're going to represent Jesus,

if you're going to go out and you're going to image, turn that into a verb, you're going to image Jesus to the world, then it has to be from that primary thing. And what's the primary thing with God? Unconditional love. And what does he say in the same chapter? Love does not seek its own. Yeah. So are you doing this for you? Yeah. And the Holy Spirit, are you doing it for the kingdom?'s right he many times we're doing it we don't realize this but many times we're actually doing it for ourselves i mean we want to make ourselves look good we want to puff ourselves up we want to build a platform we want people to know our name instead of knowing his name yep and and the holy spirit convicted

me nate and he taught me something that i'll share with the listeners i think it'll bless them the holy spirit said to me one time uh how much mercy and grace, how much love do you receive every day? And I had an immediate picture of like a well without end. I said, Lord, it's just an endless well, your mercy, your grace, and your love. And he said, how much did it cost you? And of course, you don't need to think very long to understand Jesus paid the cost. It didn't cost anything. Here's what he said to me. Here's what he's saying to everybody.

Then give it away. Every single encounter that you have, get rid of the judgment. Let that junk go and give away what I give to you every single day. And Nate, it changed my walk. It changed my view of people. I don't care their ethnicity. I don my view of people. I don't care their ethnicity. I don't care their color. I don't care what they're from. I don't care about their past. I don't care about any of it. They were created in the image and likeness of God. And God loves

them like he loves you, like he loves me, like he loves Judah. And we don't get to come in the way of that. I was just about to say, I even pray for Judah. Yeah, we're just, we're going to rep, that's what we're here to represent. And that changes everything. That's the motivation of the heart that we're talking about. Amen. We're running low on time as time always flies, but I want to ask you, because we're talking about living from above. Can you maybe talk for like five minutes on, because so many, we've talked about it a little bit today, but just poverty mindset. Can you just share some on kingdom wealth? Yeah. The father wants us to understand that all that he has is ours. And the reason is, is our position changed when Jesus came and died for us? We were translated from the kingdom

of darkness into the kingdom of the son of his love and our position changed and we got qualified. We're now seated with Christ. Jesus has qualified us for the blessings. Nate, there's nothing that we can do to earn the blessings of God. There's nothing we can do to secure the abundance of God besides believe. Our responsibility is to believe and to stand on it. Jesus paid the price. He wants us to understand that I am a loving father. Fathers want to bless their kids. He is looking to bless his body abundantly. Kingdom wealth is part of salvation. Kingdom wealth is part of salvation kingdom wealth is part of what jesus secured there's so many scriptures it says that by jesus's grace though he was rich he made himself poor that we might be made rich that that we are to be abundantly supplied why why are we to be so

blessed so we can be a blessing if you you have the heart, talking about heart motivations again, if he knows that he can get it to you, Nate, and that wherever he wants it to go, wherever he would say, hey, it needs to go here, this amount needs to go, if he can get that to you and he knows he can trust you with it, he will pour out his blessings. He wants us to understand that, listen, we serve a limitless God.

It's unlimited. And who is that? Who is the whole kingdom for? Why were you created? For his good pleasure. He's wanting to bless us. You don't have to qualify. You are qualified.

You don't need a new position. Your position has already been changed. You're seated with Christ. Every single thing that he has is yours. What he gave and what he did for Jesus, he's done for us. And people just don't understand it. And he wants to bless us to be a blessing. It is more blessed to give than to receive. And he's looking for those stewards. He's looking for those people that will help create it, that will help steward it, and help to direct it and distribute it throughout all the earth. That's the Father's heart on kingdom wealth.

He understands it takes money to operate the kingdom here on earth. You think God doesn't understand that? And he knows where it needs to go. And listen, he knows who he can trust with it. And he's looking for vessels of righteousness that will steward and distribute his kingdom well throughout all the earth. He's looking for people. He's saying, will you be one that I can trust? I mean, it's an incredible thing. It's an honor and a privilege. And when you're able to bless people and lift that burden off of people, because you know the burden finances and money can be

when you're able to minister with jesus lift that off of people i don't think there's anything like it it's amazing like it changes their life instantly and there's just an ever never ending abundant supply and he wants us to walk in it he's calling us actually to it and its relationship is part of the like you know how we partner with him when we're casting out devils, healing the sick, raising the dead. We're also, I believe, partnering with him when we're creating kingdom wealth. A hundred percent. And it's like, you know, we talk about it and my wife's going to be on the show next week. I'm so excited to see what she is going to share because the Lord is teaching her so much right now about kingdom wealth. And,alth, and Ann is very much about this. Some people say, we'll never ask.

She's partnering with God. He has given her this passion, this desire to create Kingdom Wealth. She's amazing. But it's not happening by her just sitting on the couch, hoping, eating Doritos, thinking that a million dollars is going to get dropped on her lap because he's a supernatural God. He's a supernatural God and he's a good father and he's partnering with her and she's going out there and working together with him, stewarding what he's calling her to do to create this kingdom wealth. Yeah, because he blesses the works of what the works of our hands we have to put our hand to something we have to keep our hand to it then he will direct it there's even a scripture that says that he will give us witty inventions he loves kingdom businesses he actually wants kingdom entrepreneurs all through it god's design is not that we all work for the man.

Am I saying that you to quit your job? No, I'm not saying that. Don't quit your job. But I'm saying, listen, he will birth ideas in you. He'll give you strategic partnerships. He'll bring people into your lives. He'll give you dreams. He'll give you visions. How do you think a lot of the technologies have come to people? He wants to do so much because listen, that can be as much a quote ministry as anything else can be. Absolutely. I mean, he wants to reach the world. He's going to reach them in the marketplace. He's called us all to do unique things. I think sometimes we think it has to look like this or look like that. And I'm like, get out of it. Look like the way that God created you, what he's calling you to do. Yeah, like we say, stay in your lane.

Do what he created you to do. What is he calling? And the vast majority is not happening inside the building. It's outside, as Sean Boone said last week, in the highways and the byways, out as you do every day, as we do every day, where we go. And that includes kingdom businesses. How many people do we encounter through our businesses? He can touch people endlessly through kingdom businesses. How many people do we encounter through our businesses? He can touch people endlessly through kingdom businesses.

It's really, he's showing me, do you know what the true treasure is, Joe? It's not kingdom wealth. It's not the kingdom businesses. It's reaching my people. Sometimes you can be a stronghold or an idol to say, well, I'm a full-time minister, and that's how I make my money, and I don't do anything else. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I think there's people trapped in that.

Yes. For sure. And I think they know it and I think it shows on a lot of people. Create. Yes. He's the creator. Living right here. He's called us to create.

Create wealth. And people would say, oh, he doesn't do... You're saying like, well, the creator, he actually lost his power and his ability to create. No, he loves to create. He's constantly creating. I love the stories of, you know, something supernatural happened and God provided the rent payment last month. Yes. But how about God worked through you to pay someone else's rent payment?

How about flipping it where you're stepping into that role? Yes, because yes. And you know what? There's, and I want to make sure this is abundantly clear. There's plenty of mercy and grace. You know, the Lord loves us. And yes, people say this all the time. He'll meet you where you're at, but listen, you, that does not give you permission to

stay stuck. He will meet you where you're at, but keep going. Press on, Press in for the more because there's always more. There's infinitely more that he wants to do through all of us. This is an exciting time, Nate, to be in the kingdom. I'm telling you, God is indeed, as everyone's saying, on the move. Kingdom entrepreneurs is very much on God's heart. It is. And it's happening. I see it happening in my own home. We do.

And we see it happening up and down the valley in the central Virginia area and really beyond. And this is not about us idolizing money. Money in itself is not evil. No. It can be used for evil. It's the love of money that's evil. I'm just trying to pound. It's not a bad thing for

you to be christian and have money to be able to bless people to be able to to build things for the kingdom of god that's exactly right and and he's gonna he's gonna create it and we're gonna steward it and he's gonna distribute it through his people that's the parable of talents he said well done good and faithful servants to the ones that multiplied what he gave them. Multiply. They traded. You go into the word of God and study. They literally went into the marketplaces and traded and doubled what they, he gave them. And he said, well done. Now I'll put you over more. Why? Because they were trustworthy servants. That's a picture for all of us. Yes. We're not to go bury it or hide it in the

ground or think we're lesser than or we can't do it no we're all like the guys that doubled the trading account and that he will bless it i'll put you over 10 cities that's what he that's his heart for kingdom wealth seeds planted thank you joe you've been on fire today you know i love your passion i love your heart i I love that I'm honored. I'm grateful that the Lord gave you a platform to share this today because you have so much, and it just needs to be released. It's so good. And I'm glad that people all over are going to be able to hear what you brought today. So love you.

I love you, bro. Just a couple things. Thank you guys for watching. Share the show. I mean, this has been so much good content today. Great guests. Elena Tennell said, we are his ambassadors and our embassy is his throne room. We get everything we need for here from the throne room. Yeti, our friend Yeti in Costa Rica is watching live. She

said, bendiciones, Joe. And I think that means something along the lines of, gosh, you're amazing, Joe, and I love you. And I can't wait wait to we cannot wait in two months to see you again yet we love costa rica and the costa rican people yes so we're about to uh wrap up the show but do you have anything i think you said you there's something on your heart that you wanted to share uh about the show or what you see the show doing is somebody who really is a i mean i consider you a partner i consider you part of this show yeah just so you know a couple different things one is charlottesville in particular the lord was showing me you know you know how i was talking about uh people going throughout all the world and god is on the move and i just felt like the holy spirit said to me charlottesville is literally going to be swept up in this mighty move of god

that is this is a targeted area i think know that. I'm just adding a little confirmation to that. And then for the show, Nate, he has showed me this so repeatedly, really from early on in the show, that where he wants to take the show and what he's going to do through this show is actually beyond what you can think or imagine. It is literally going to be an Ephesians 3.20 experience where he does exceedingly abundantly above all that you can ask or think. It's so, like we say this sometimes, this show is so much bigger than you. It's only God that can do it and his plans for it. Like you're what, nine months in?

Yep. He literally is showing me we're just scratching the surface. And to me, that's exciting because it's already touching people all over the world, but he's saying with me, how much more? That's what I feel like. He just wanted to confirm that. And one thing I know about you is no matter what it looks like, no matter where it takes you, you're going to be obedient to it because you have to be. And so I just that's what he's going to do. And I think you're the whole community, all of your friends, all of our family, heart of the home, people up and down the guest.

I mean, we're all in this together. We're all for you. We love you. We appreciate you so much. It's been amazing, and it's going to continue to be. And Lord knows where he's going to take it, but I know it's going to be good. Love you, brother. Thank you.

Love the passion. Love the teaching. Love the heart. Love the fire. And so, yeah, I am also excited because next week we are going to have a very special guest for our Kingdom Connection. I know her very well. I actually share a bed with her, and her name is Ann Kibler. And, you know, this is one of those things where it's not just, oh, he's having his wife,

and Joe knows what the Lord is doing, and that she is really stepping into this calling of her life. It's been beautiful to see what the Lord is doing in her. And this is, again, not just, you know, nine months in. She was on the very see what the Lord is doing in her. And this is again, not just, you know, nine months. Then she was on the very first show, but for like 10 minutes, like this is a platform for her and, and it's going to be unique for the kingdom of God. And it's going to be powerful and passionate and people are going to be blessed. She's an incredible treasure. And I know in my heart heart it's time for her to release her voice amen absolutely

so I've got a call coming in it's Barbara Shaw she probably forgot we're doing a show love you Barbara but hey thank you guys for watching share the show bless you we'll see you next week

I speak life and love and healing over your minds and your bodies in the name of Jesus and God bless and we will see you next week. I speak life and love and healing over your minds and your bodies in the name of Jesus. And God bless, and we will see you next week. Thank you.