The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - John Martin Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

John Martin of Warrior House Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for watching, for listening, for praying, and for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, John Martin, this ain't church, y'all. It is all about the kingdom of God. And today, of course, we will be talking about the kingdom of God. I have my good brother, one of my very dear friends, who is live on the show from Troy, Ohio right now.

He has a lion on his chest. I'm not sure if that's the Lion of Judah. Is that a lion king? I'm not really sure. It's Jesus. It looks a little bit like Simba. It probably is. It probably is designed after him, but I take it as being Jesus. It looks a little bit like Simba. It probably is. It probably is designed after him, but I take it as being Jesus. But anyways, put John on the show because everything that I have to talk about today, well, I shouldn't say everything, but I'm not starting the show with anything in particular.

So let's just get John on live, and we're going to roll. All right, you're on. What's up, brother? Hey, man. It's good to be with you. I had an amazing weekend with you, and thank you for all the hospitality, and we had a great Saturday. Blessed Saturday. Yeah, it was an amazing event. We were honored that you were part of it with us, and for those who watch the show regularly, we did have our yearly conference this past weekend, Bridge the Gap 25 in Rutgersville, Virginia. And it really was a beautiful day.

I always come with expectations, knowing that God is going to show up. I don't really consume or think about the numbers too much. I just don't allow myself to go to that place. But I will say this. There were a lot of people who came and a lot of people who were blessed. We ended up for most of the day having standing room only, which was a blessing. I think it brought even more excitement to the day. And so, yeah, it was a beautiful day. And we're going to talk about some things that the

Lord did and kind of expand on that for some teaching as well. So,, early just thoughts on the event. Well, you brought up a prophet who you asked to kind of see what the Lord was doing. And he shared something that really stuck out to me that the Lord also spoke to me about. And he said, get ready to shift your posture into battle, to fight, into warfare. And so I knew that there were some things going on over the nation. There were some things going on in the spirit that we were going to have to, you know, partner with heaven to kind of release on the earth. And so when he said that, I was like, yes, and ready to go. But then what really was powerful is, you know, you had some young worshipers that were just passionate about worship. And the Bible says that, you know, through worship, we enter into his gates.

With Thanksgiving, we enter into his courts. And ultimately, because of Jesus, we get to go into the throne room. And the morning worship was just fire. And so what I did was I just joined with worship and started speaking from that place. And moving with that because I think the foundation of everything we do is worship. And it was just fire worship. Holy Spirit was moving. And what we do when we worship in the Spirit and in the truth is then now we're partnering with the angelic.

We're partnering with heaven. We're partnering with the Holy Spirit who worship 24-7. That's what they do in heaven. And from that place, that's where you start to move with the Holy Spirit, be obedient, and release heaven to the earth. And the morning session, that's what we did. I had a vision of all the men locking arms, and then the women kind of behind them, empowering them.

Hold on, before we get into that, I want to talk about that for sure. But what you're saying about worship, I want to touch about that for a minute because I just left a group and there were some people that were there that day and some people who had never maybe experienced worship in the way that we were worshiping. And it was interesting because they made the comment about, you know, just we get to be so religious about the way we worship and that it's supposed to look a certain way. And, and, and, and that's not really the kingdom of God. And, and, and so basically it, they could see that it was different and that it was special and they could feel the presence of God. And, you know, when, when we called those kids up there, I call them kids, they're young adults, but like I say, I'm old enough to be there, their dad they're kids to me because I'm not that old. So when we call those young people up there to release that sound that had been released the year before, the sound of revival, the spirit and the sound of revival that those young people had

been carrying throughout this last year, I don't know what God's doing, but I know it's important. I know it's a powerful, the sound that we carry that we released and what's so beautiful when we did it in that moment. See, there's people in the room with different giftings and seers in the room and our friend Jenny, what she experienced in that moment, you could feel the power of God, but she could actually see in the spirit what was happening and she could see bright lights shining and, you know, through the, through the room and like fireworks and these, these beautiful things of the sound of heaven that was being released. Yeah. Yeah. Last year was the first year we did the event. And from last year to this year, there was a lot of young people that brought, um, that, you know, last year was kind of a

launching pad. There was something, heaven was opened over the event last year. And those young people took it and they brought it to their college campuses. They brought it to their friends. And there's momentum in the spirit. Just like you build momentum when you're building a business or when you're on a winning team, there's momentum. You could tell that when they came up, they didn't lose any momentum. They brought it and you could just feel it tangible when you had those young guys come up and just release the sound. And, um, it was like, we picked up right where we left off last year and we were ready to launch something new. So yeah, it's definitely good. Yeah. We, uh, we thank you guys for watching. Look,

please comment, please tell us where you're coming in from. If you have comments or if you were a part of bridge the gap this weekend, and there's something that the Lord did, if you had a healing in your body, if there's something the Lord showed you, a prophetic word, anything that you sensed or saw in the room, please comment. If you are on my Facebook page directly or if it's somebody who shared it from my page, I can see or should be able to see your comments. If you're watching on YouTube or anywhere else, I will not be able to. So just comment, tell us what the Lord, what you saw the Lord do. I would love to be able to release that and just share the show guys. This is how this is being watched and seen all over the world. And I do also want to thank our sponsor and our partnership with opening doors, real estate and Melanie Morris. You guys can see her logos on the bottom of the

screen. Buy and sell real estate. Call Melanie Morris, an amazing woman who loves the kingdom of God. And she's doing beautiful things and her husband, David, for the kingdom of God. So bless you. Hi, John Gammon. Thank you for watching the show today live. So now if we want to shift and talk a little bit about what the Lord did in that beautiful moment when we did lock arms and about, you know, we talked about this before. I think this is cool to be able to share this because we really do not understand the power and authority that we have in Jesus Christ. The power of intercessory prayer, uh, you know, distance prayer. Like, you know, I'm not talking about where somebody's sitting right in front of you, you put your hand on them and you pray for healing, but the ability to, to shift elections,

the ability to shift court cases, the ability to, to really move things in the heavens. And it's like, we talk about, um, our conferences and this is so cool because at your conference in Ohio, the Intercessor Conference, we had literally been interceding for the nation that day. And then later that afternoon, we saw people started saying, oh, my goodness, did you see what happened? And that is actually the day that that bullet missed Trump's killing our now President Donald Trump by millimeters. And we can't think that those prayers that our intercession doesn't have power and you know it's like interesting because I thought we were going to do this event on 125 25 that had a good ring to it we ended up doing it on 118 I had no idea that the presidential inauguration was two days later but we're in the mountains we're in the high places we're interceding everywhere we were looking. That audience that day was facing north, which was

facing our capital city of Washington, D.C., and the Lord had us intercede for the nation in a unique way. So maybe you can touch about that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, before we had the event, the Lord said, there's a reason why I had it at this time and at this place. Because I kind of wanted to maybe go to inauguration. But the Lord said, no, I'll have you exactly where you want. And that's in a high place. That's in the state of Virginia and at a high place. And so the Bible commands us in 1 Timothy to pray for our leaders, to intercede for them so that we could live, so that the people of that nation could live a quiet and peaceable life. And it's literally a

command, so make intercession for them. And so, the reason why God needs people in the earth to intercede for his kingdom is because when God created the earth, he gave man dominion over the earth. And he said, I give you dominion over the birds in the air. I give you the dominion over the earth and he said i give you dominion over the birds in the air i give you the dominion over the the things that walk along the earth and in the sea and then so we gave that dominion to the enemy that's why jesus had to come as a man he couldn't come as god hold on i have to interrupt you who gave that dominion to the enemy we did okay i just want to clarify that because I could not tell you the number of times over the years where people say, I just can't understand why God gave the

devil authority on earth. Well, the reason you can't understand it is because he didn't do it. We did. No, no, he had, he was just a liar. All he could do was lie. That's right. All in the earth. We, you know, Eve could have, Eve could have stepped on in the earth we you know eve could have eve could have stepped on um you know what eve could have done eve could have done what mary did because mary corrected this by the way married the mother of jesus she looked at jesus and she said woman you know my time has not yet come but mary told those those servants when the wedding came he said do whatever he tells you and so eve should have said nope do whatever the tells you. And so Eve should have said, nope, do whatever the Lord says. You know, my husband said not to eat of this tree.

And so, but Eve made that mistake and Adam didn't stop her. And we gave the communion to the earth. Do not eat from that tree, Adam, or you will die. Yeah. He warned them. We gave those keys. And so our authority died. Our authority died in the earth.

Our spirits died in the earth. And we became subjective, unfortunately, to an enemy that kind of took things over. But that's why Jesus had to come as a man. He couldn't come as God to take that authority back, to break the power. And then instead of keeping that authority, Jesus said, here's the keys, Peter, to the kingdom of God. Now I have all authority. Now I'm going to use you to bring heaven to earth and to enforce the kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven.

And a lot of people think that God is in control in the realm of the earth and God is sovereign and he has a plan, but actually he's given us control. And so when we yield and surrender to him and allow his authority to live through us, we become the stewards of that authority. So it's, you know, the way the earth goes is the way that the church goes. So John, if somebody says you're being arrogant, how can you say that you're arrogant? What do you say to that? I'm being arrogant. Well, you know, it's funny that I'm being arrogant because Jesus said, I give you the keys of the kingdom of God.

So if I'm going to, if I'm just going to say, well, I won't be humble and use those keys. I won't enforce the kingdom of God. I'll tell you one thing. Jesus taught us to pray a command. He taught us to pray our Father who art in heaven. So allow him to become holy in our life. Allow the holy God to make us holy. And the second thing he taught us to pray is your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. You know how most of the church prays that prayer? They pray that prayer as a request. But look at the language of the prayer. It's not a request. Two-thirds of the words of prayer in the Bible are a command. When we pray, that word pray means to command heaven

to earth, to bind and to loose is how Jesus taught us mostly how to pray. There is a time where we seek the Lord for our inner transformation to make so we're praying in the name and in the heart of Jesus. But mostly what prayer is actually is we're releasing heaven to earth and it's a command. So if Jesus taught us to pray and command and he taught us, you know, my question back question back to you is, as a healing minister, did Jesus ever ask God for healing? Well, first of all, you're not allowed to ask questions on this show. It's only me, John. I'm just kidding.

So what I want to say first is to back on what you were – oh, goodness. Anyways, yeah, you asked me the question. So ask me the question again, John. I got sidetracked making jokes. No, no, I'm saying like, in intercession, in intercession, we do the same thing. We don't ask God to do things. He did it all.

He opened heaven, so we command it. So the same thing with healing, right? So what I was going to say is that anything that we have in our belief system that makes us as sons of God look weak, we're probably being deceived somehow. Yeah. Because now, thanks to Jesus coming and going back on that cross, that power and authority has been returned to us. Yeah, we died and our lives are hidden with Christ.

We're co-heirs with Christ. And what did Jesus inherit? Jesus inherited all power in heaven and on earth. So when we begin to live by his spirit, then we begin to access Jesus's authority. You know, we can walk around with fake authority. We can walk around with fake confidence and hope things happen. But when we really die to ourselves and allow him to begin to live through us, then we've just gained access to the full authority that Jesus Christ has. And he doesn't have some authority. He has all

authority. And to answer your question, Jesus, no, he did not say, pray pretty please with a cherry on top or father, if it's your will. No, he said, be healed in Jesus name. He said to the fig tree, he said to the fig tree, you're going to die. And the fig tree died. And so I'm going to read it. I'm going to read a couple of comments real quick. Shane Lilly watching who was there on Saturday and this good. I like this. We've invited these amazing young people to lead and seen generations brought into a new place in the spirit. Momentum is the exact right word for these young men and women. And then Linda Martin said,

what spoke to me the most was when Candace Smitherman said, maybe your first fruit is just giving yourself to the Lord. Maybe you're the first fruit that needs to be given. The weighty glory of the Lord came into the room and an atmosphere of surrender just took over. Yeah. So when, so thank you guys for sharing that when we got to, um, but you know, when, when you called us up there to intercede for the nation, I thought it was really, it was powerful. And it's like, we think that to intercede, that means we have to maybe say some fancy kind of words sometimes, right? We think that like, it's always what we say, but you know, the Holy spirit, think about, you know, the Holy spirit led Jesus to, uh, you know, put spit and mud in a man's eyes for him to see. And many times the Holy spirit led Jesus to

not even a lot of times do the same thing twice, if you really think about it. And so, um, you know, what he led you to do was to have us go up there, the men especially, and lock arms, face Washington, D.C., and actually have a war cry. We roared as lions. And it was such a powerful moment. guys had people reaching out to you that knew nothing about what we were doing that said that the Lord had been calling them to do similar things to roar and release that sound of heaven to to the Capitol. So anything you want to say on that? Yeah, when the Lord shows you a picture of what to do, you know that you can't do it on your own. Number one, your words, you know, your words are not effective to do it. It has to be his spirit doing it in you. Your words, you know, your words are not effective to do it. It has to be his spirit doing it in you.

So, you know, I'm like, Lord, you do this. So you begin with worship, then his presence comes, then he begins to move you, and then him speaking through you is more powerful than anything you could say with your own words. Yes. When you begin to yield, and if it's a roar, the Bible says this, the Bible says the spirit intercedes for us with groans too deep for words, too deep for words. So the Holy Spirit's language, it moves beyond the realm of language and our natural understanding. You know, if I roar, someone would say, well, you're not saying anything. You're not doing

anything. You're just making a noise. You're simba john are you just simba yeah i'm just simba no listen a roar is a sign of authority when when this guy simba when when when he roared like his dad he was saying over the nation he was saying over the people i am in charge jesus is king and it's not a sound that goes into the natural. When Jesus speaks through you, listen, everything in the spirit realm, they take notice and they have to bow. They have to acknowledge that Jesus is king and they have to, and heaven comes in and invades. So angels are part of it, you know, and so that's why it's not even something you can do on your own.

Intercession is not something on your own. You have to yield to the Spirit of God moving within you. And when He speaks, it's done. And, you know, just like when you speak healing or something like that, it's not you doing it, it's the Spirit of God doing it, and you're releasing it, and you're trusting it. So it's not something I can conjure up. It's not something I can try. But it doesn't matter what it is. It's not saying the right word. It's having the right attitude and posture and surrender to the Holy Spirit, because he'll tell you to do things that are uncomfortable. We roared for about three minutes. It wasn't like we roared for once. We just went at it. But the atmosphere in the room, I mean, everyone was full-blown roaring.

I mean, men were crying. Men were weeping. And men were actually getting delivered in that moment. Yes. Which is also, I mean, yes. And I want to add this, too, on my heart. There was spirits of religion coming out. Yes, absolutely. Because we were there united in different denominations, different churches, different, you know, whatever.

And there was power in unity, there's power in humility, and there's power in love. And we were coming from all of those places. Yeah. You know, when men come together and stand and say, we're going to stand and guard the kingdom, we're going to guard the church, we're going to guard the earth from evil, we're going to stand against the enemy's plans. We're not going to cower back. We're not going to live selfish lives. Men are protectors. And the way we locked arms, it was kind of like a shield.

I saw in the spirit almost like a shield. Someone saw over you a shield. So someone saw that you were literally a shield. I turned into a shield for the woman that was standing behind me. Yes, exactly. And it was like we were taking our right place in the body of Christ. And there was just such passion in the sound that was being released. And right when we were finished, there was a young man, young African-American man.

And it was Martin Luther King Day weekend. I just saw God doing something special. And I said, I just saw a hunger on him. I thought I was done. And I called him up and I say, what do you want? Do you want, you know, like, what do you want? And he's like, I just saw a hunger on him. I thought I was done and I called him up and I say, what do you want? Do you want, you know, like, what do you want? And he's like, I just want all of it.

And I laid hands on him and I roared into him and the spirit of God just marked him and touched him. And I know he's not gonna be the same forever because there's times when God will literally mark and touch a person and change a person's life so powerfully. But, you know, one other thing I wanna say real quick is the Lord is teaching me about the power of unity. How do we take back territory for the kingdom of God?

And really, it's not that difficult because as the church, we already have the authority. So here's how we take back territory for the kingdom of God. We unify, we come together, and we stand against what the enemy is doing. And we say that Jesus is king, and we stand against what the enemy is doing, and we say that Jesus is king, and we begin to release that into the atmosphere, and all the enemies have to bow. So, you know, all the enemy can do to the body of Christ, he can get us in pride, he can divide us, he can get us competitive, and he can get us to fight against each other. That's how we allow the enemy to stay in authority, is to get us to come against each other and just fight each other. That's how we allow the enemy to stay in authority, is to get us to come against each

other and just fight each other and destroy each other. Well, Jesus said a house divided cannot stand. Yeah, so that's all the enemy can do. He doesn't really have any real authority. By the church fighting against each other, we're like, yeah, we won't take it from you. We'll just fight against each other and be competitive and say, my church is better than your church, my ministry is better than your ministry, and we won't come it from you. We'll just fight against each other and be competitive and say my church is better than your church, my ministry is better than your ministry, and we won't come together and stand. But literally when we stand and worship Jesus together, there is incredible power in that,

and the enemy loses territory when that happens. It's called a covenant. It's called a covenant. It's called the church is in covenant with one another. And that's so much of what the Lord has called us to do through that event, which a lot of people may not necessarily understand, but we are taking back territory for the kingdom of God. Oh, absolutely.

Joe Hoy, a good friend of the show. We love Joe. He said, that's right, John. In unity, we release the glory to fill the earth. Yes. Amen. Amen. Amen.

We have Canada watching on the show. We thank you for our Canadian friends, too. And Aaliyah of Avila Lofton said unity in all caps. Yes. Praise the Lord. So I want to stay on what would happen in that moment, because this is important for ministers who will watch the show or thriving ministers. You know, one of the things that we also did that you did and felt on your heart in that moment because there were a lot of ministers and pastors and leaders in the room and you said you know would you be willing who's willing to lay down their ministry for God for the kingdom you know talk about that about willingness to lay down your career to lay down your career, to lay down your gifting, to lay down, you know, your ministry, as you said, for the kingdom.

What does that look like? What's the importance of that? You know, sometimes, yeah, sometimes when God gives us a gift to preach or to lead or to start a church, the enemy often comes in and he'll kind of create a platform. This is going to be tricky for some ministers. It's going to be challenging. He will create a platform for us to use our gift for God for his kingdom. In other words, he'll get us in a little bit of pride. He'll get us in a little bit of success, and he'll say, you know what?

You're building something special. You're something special. You got something that people like, and it's better than other people's, and you should make a name for yourself. You should build that people like, and it's better than other people's, and you should make a name for yourself. You should build a brand for yourself. You should build a church for yourself. You should be the face of that brand, and you're actually using the gift that God has given you on the platform of the enemy, and it's called pride. And so what I felt the Spirit of the Lord doing was just even in that moment, and to bring a spirit of repentance into the room, would you be willing to lay down the gifts that God has given you to serve one another in love?

Because real leaders in the kingdom of God serve. And real leaders in the kingdom of God lay down their lives. And servant leadership is the model that Jesus gave us. But a lot of times as leaders, we like when others serve us, when people give us thumbs up, when people give us, you know, there's people that believe that the leader of the church should be driving the biggest this, the biggest that, the most expensive this. And I just don't understand that because that's not the way that Jesus, the Bible says that Jesus came to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many. So I believe my attitude, nothing wrong with having stuff, nothing wrong

with people who give, but my attitude should be that I'm constantly laying down my ministry and knowing that it's not mine. It is what God is doing in my life. And you know what? My ministry should also be to build others up, build others up, build others up, build others up, not get to serve me. And I would even say this, that like when he's calling you to do that, if he's calling you to do that, it's for a reason. And it comes back to intimacy. And we know he's a good daddy, that he's a good father, and we have deep, intimate relationship with him and we trust him. It should be easy to lay those things down.

Exactly. Because it's about him. It's not about our kingdom. It's not about our brand. It's not about my name. It's about him. And it's challenging because God sometimes will tell you to take a break.

He'll tell you, you know what? You should take a break from ministry for three months or six months and come seek my face. And ministers go, I can't do that. I got too many followers. I gotta be the only person who preaches on sunday i got expectations and if you i would want to say this if you're if you consider people's expectations on you and more than the voice of god if you can consider people's expectations on you more than you value the voice of God and what he's telling you to do, you're in a bad place and you're not walking with challenging because people go,

I can't take a break. I can't take a sabbatical and go seek the Lord because all these people have expectations on me. Well, you're serving people. You're not serving God. And that's challenging. We've also probably hyped ourselves up a little bit. If we think we can't take a break from social media for 30 days and everybody's going to miss us that much. Yeah. Yeah. We probably think we're a little more important than we actually are. I'm just going to go ahead and throw this out there. I'm going to be nice, but when I take a break from social media, I don't have to tell everybody that I'm taking a break from social media. Just do it. It's like, don't worry, guys.

I'll be back. Don't worry. I know you'll miss me. Somebody said, great leaders. Don't call me a powerful leader. I want to be a leader who empowers. Hey, everybody. Hi, Carolyn Shank.

I like that. John Marshall, blessings. Jose said blessings. I see Margaret Delgado, our friend from New Jersey, on the phone. I was actually on a different – I was with Delgado, our friend from New Jersey on the phone. I was actually on a different, I was with a woman, Lisa Perna on her show this morning in New Jersey. So love New Jersey being in the house. Margaret's an awesome intercessor. People, those are intercessors frontline, man. People do not understand. Maybe just briefly talk about the intercessors being on the front line, John, and why and what that looks like. So, so intercessors, I believe are undervalued in the body of Christ because without them, we don't, because here's, you know, what's happening

in the spirit world is more powerful. That's what's happening in the earth. And what's happening in the earth is a reflection of what's happening in the spirit. And what's happening in the earth is a reflection of what's happening in the spirit. And, you know, the story of Daniel when he prayed. An angel came to him 21 days after he started praying. And he said, oh man, thank you for keep praying for 21 days because I got stuck in the second heaven with a fight against a principality. He even named the principality.

But because Daniel stayed praying for 21 days, the angel that was sent after the first day Daniel prayed, he broke through that second heaven where the spiritual warfare is. And believe it or not, even angels are dependent upon us praying then into the earth to reach this place. So as soon as Daniel started praying, he interceded for 21 days. And finally, that angel was able to win that battle to come and release the answer to the prayer.

So what intercessors do is we pray until we see the answer to the prayer happening. We fight, we yield, we will be obedient to the spirit and we press in until we see the answer to the prayer. Because what happens a lot of time in prayer and and what people don't understand about intercession, is people give up way too early. They go, oh God, I want to see this, I want to see my family come to Christ, I want to see my new weight, and nothing happens. And they go, oh, I guess

it's not the will of God. What confessors do is we fight and we war, and we become the voice and we intercede, we travail, we cry out until we see it happen. So that's been so powerful because it's really just a kind of prayer that presses in until we see the answer. Amen. That's good. It's interesting. I was talking about something else really quick that happened I thought was pretty cool in the morning session was when one of our, you got a prophetic word for Candace Smitham, who was our night speaker, and you talked about how you saw something about her, about George Washington.

And I thought that was really interesting because obviously George Washington, I mean, Mount Vernon, George Washington's home, I mean, where we are, you talk about the importance of central Virginia when you think about the home of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, Andrew Jackson. Isn't that right, Andrew Jackson? Oh, James Monroe, James Monroe Highlawn, Woodrow Wilson, even having Donald Trump's winery in Greene County. But you got his word for Candace Smith about George Washington, and she said, I just want to confirm that because he was a relative of her. Yeah, that was – I felt – yeah. No, I just wanted to honor Barbara, two apostles in the room who I just wanted to honor.

And after I had them stand and just say I honor for everything that they in the room who I just wanted to honor. And after I had them stand and just say I honor for everything that they've done for the kingdom of God, sometimes weird stuff will happen, like I'll get a vision. And all of a sudden, I was just praying what I saw over Candace. And as I was praying and blessing what I saw, all of a sudden, I saw like a spirit of prayer that was given to George Washington, especially his wife being passed on to her and the same kind of calling that God called George Washington and his wife to, because if your wife was an incredible intercessor, George Washington's wife was a huge intercessor. And I saw that kind of coming to her and having that same lineage.

And so I just shared that with her, not knowing that she was actually going to tell me that she was a relative, a cousin or whatever, of George Washington. Are you familiar with the story about George Washington? I think it was Valley Forge when they were crossing the river. Are you familiar with that story? Yeah, so when he was crossing the river, all the British troops were waiting for them to cross, and they didn't know that they were hidden in the woods.

And all of a sudden, his wife was praying. His wife would go out and pray for him every day in the same spot. And out of nowhere, this huge fog came in, and George Washington and his home from battle sometimes, and he'd look at his coat, and there would be bullet holes, kind of like the bullet grazed Trump's ear. He'd come home, and his wife would take off his jacket. There would be bullet holes through his coat, and somehow the bullets would never hit him. God has been protecting and watching over the United States of America for a long time, and he's still doing it today. And without getting political, I'll just go ahead and say that that's why we have a new president of our country. Well, America has a calling to bless the world and to bring the good

news of the gospel to the world. And that's a calling. We have a calling. Many people came to United States for selfish reasons, but also many people came to United States for the freedom to worship God freely. And I believe that's the calling that we have to bring to the world, to bring to the world the freedom that is found in Jesus Christ. Yeah, we have a freedom to share the gospel. We shouldn't be concerned if somebody gives us a hard time on Facebook or even if Facebook takes down your account. I mean, that's not even real persecution. Yeah, who cares? I still get to preach the gospel, even if my, my Facebook account is not working. So, amen. Hey, so we're going to shift a little bit. Hey, thank you guys for watching. Look,

we would love for you to comment anybody else that was at the event, anything that happened that you would like to hear us talk about on the show, please comment. Hi, Sharon Wood. Hi, Carl Sly. You know, the Lord has really put on my heart this year, and I wear so many hats at those events. Goodness gracious, you know, I probably wore too many hats at this event, and it was not necessarily an easy day for me. But, you know, one of the things the Lord has put on my heart this year, and this is not something I just say all the time,

but I really do believe that this is going to, 2025 is going to be a year where many more people are stepping out in power. We're stepping out in signs and wonders. We're stepping out in the authority that we've been given. And people are going to have testimonies all over the place. And, you know, I felt, I think you made the comment, you're like, wow, Nate, like I, when I have conferences, I never speak and I didn't speak last year, but the Lord put it on my heart to teach some on healing and to teach about tearing down the strongholds that so many people in the body of Christ have against healing. And what's interesting, you know, we, I spoke on some of these things and I know that healing was released

in the room and I know that there was an impartation. It was really cool because literally the next day, you know, we had the event on a Saturday. Well, guess what? People went back and went to their churches on Sunday. And so we had one particular testimony of a woman that was there that night. And, you know, she she got to her Sunday church. Now, mind you, this is a church that believes in the gifts of the spirit, but doesn't necessarily operate in the gifts of the spirit. As we know, that's two completely different things. And she said, you know, she got there and she felt some pain in her. I think it was her knee and her hip and she knew it wasn't hers.

And so she got up and she told him about what she was experiencing. She said, maybe you guys can talk about that. And she's not someone who's ever, my understanding had a voice like, you know, on the stage at his church. And they said, well, why don't you get up and share what the God, what the Lord is showing you. And so she gets up there and shares about that and praise over the people in the church. And there's somebody out here that has pain in their knees and their hips and all these people raised their hands. And my understanding is that seven or the people in the church saying there's somebody out here that has pain in their knees and their hips and all these people raised their hands and my understanding is that seven or eight people in the church got instantly healed because that that's my heart and that's the lord's heart i don't want to be that guy like i'm happy to be that guy if there's something going on in your body you can call me for healing yes but there should be millions of us that people can call

and they can get healed. And so she went out and this is interesting what she said. I've never heard somebody say this exactly, but like, look, we know that he's the healer, right? We believe that he's a hero. We believe that he lives in us, but sometimes we don't believe enough in ourselves that he wants to go out and do these things through us. And the, and you know, look like I made the comment the other night, like if you want to be a millionaire and all you want to do is sit on your couch and eat Doritos, that's probably not going to happen. So it's like with healing and signs and wonders, we have to get out there and go do it. And the interesting thing she said is that she felt that there was an impartation of boldness released upon her. You know, and I want to share something about that story because two things.

Number one, yeah, she got, she got, you know, that boldness that you released. And then she brought it to her church. And during church, she, she got this pain, you know, and she knew it wasn't hers. And she knew if she, she got to share that, that people would get healed. But also what often happens in our churches is we're afraid to share the mic. We're afraid to go off track with what we're doing. And, you know, when she went up to the leaders of that church, I blessed them, and I want to speak to church leaders here.

Listen carefully. Don't be afraid to have your church service interrupted by the Spirit of God. Because oftentimes, a woman will come come up and they'll say, well, if you find the people, you can pray for them, but we're not going to give you the mic. But they stopped the service. They said, go up, share. And what happened was people began to get healed in the room.

Because you know what the Bible says about orderly worship? It says when the Spirit of God falls on somebody in the room, whoever's talking should stop. And it's something we miss when Paul talks about early worship. In other words, we don't know who the Spirit of God is going to fall on in the room. We don't know who's going to get pain in their body to release healing. It could be a child. It could be a child that goes up there and starts praying for healing.

Well, John, you know what happened at your conference through my son. Someone ended up coming up and giving their life to the Lord because of a vision that he drew on a picture before your conference ever even took place, a prophetic picture that came to pass. Yep, yep. And so I love that story because not only did she get it, but the ministers of that church allowed her to go up on the stage and share that. And because of that, healing broke out. So, you know, that's just an encouragement to leaders. Please, guys, pay attention to where the Spirit of God is in the room and share the mic, share the stage, allow other people to get up there and begin to release.

Because when we hold on to it, when we, you know, keep it, we're not empowering people, you know, so we should be, you know keep it we're not empowering people you know so we we should be uh you know the early let me say something on that really quick because like that woman was clearly being led by the spirit who came up there and there were and there was fruit for that and i you know i don't think that you're saying well hey anybody who comes up and asks for the mic give it to them no but that's why it's so important to be holy spirit led and be able to discern and see when someone's being led by the spirit and versus somebody that just wants to get up there and be seen no people will come up in their flesh in their own desire to be heard and

then they'll talk for 20 minutes about nonsense but you know but you have to be willing as leaders to take risks and and pay attention to where the Spirit is leading and say, you know what, brother, I see the Spirit of God on you. What's he saying to you? Come up here and share what the Spirit of God is saying. You know, my sister over there in the corner, way in the back, the Spirit of God is on you. Come up here. And when you do that, man, something tangible breaks out in the Spirit because we're paying attention not to what we had planned. We're paying attention to how the spirit of God is leading us when we gather together. And that's when you end up having powerful services, when you're paying attention to what Jesus is doing

in the room, you know, not what, not what we had planned. Well, I mean, you know, for me, even like people will give me a hard time. I'm like, well, where's the schedule? When is this happening? And like, I have a tentative schedule, but I mean, on Saturday, I could have had it. It would have gotten blown up. Even the schedule I had in my mind. I mean, you know, it even had me rattled at times because it just didn't go the way I thought it was going to go for better, you know, and, and, and, and, you know, so that, that's kind of on board with what you're saying.

But, um, so hi, Kelsey. I haven't seen you in a while. Kelsey Mayo, bless you. So, um, you know, we talk about the spirit of prophecy in the room because there were a lot of things that went on throughout the day. And something that was really cool to me is that there were people that I just saw earlier today that were there that had never seen someone get into a room and prophesy over people. And, you know, a lot of times people think, oh, that's weird, or they don't understand what's going on. But it was beautiful because there were people in the room

that this person knew, that knew the things that were being spoken over them, that there's no way that other person prophesying could have known it. And those things being released, you know, that increases our faith. Amen. Yeah, absolutely. You know, the spirit of Jesus, the spirit of prophecy. And, you know, when you, when you get a prophetic word, it's like, you know, that, that God is watching you. God cares about you. And it like, it empowers you. Someone said one time when you, a prophetic word is like a sword that God gives you. It's like, wow, I know that God believes in me. I know that God is watching me.

You know, Jesus told Philip, I saw you under the fig tree. I saw that you were reading the word. And all of a sudden, Philip goes, you're the son of God. It increases our faith. And it's such a powerful gift in the body of Christ, so much so that Paul said, literally lust after that gift. Because when you can walk in prophecy, when you have God's heart for other people, and really, really prophecy is God's heart for other people. And when you speak gold and call it the gold in them, man, you can lead so many people to Christ. You can empower people. One prophetic

word can change someone's life. And Darby was there. He, man, that guy's an incredible prophet. And he was the second speaker. And he was releasing prophetic words in a funny and awesome way, just his own personality. And he was an amazing speaker as well. And, you know, it's interesting because, like, even this show, like this show was literally spoken into existence through a prophetic word. I mean, this is not something like, ah, well, you know, Nate wants to go out there and start a podcast. I had no thought of doing anything like that. And Candace Smith, who was our, our, you know, speaker in the evening, uh, the first time I ever met her, she spoke over my wife and I, she's like, I see you in a TV studio. And, you

know, less than a month later, this God orchestrated thing happens where I didn't approach them. They didn't approach me. It was literally God. And I, and like, if I had not received that prophetic word, I'm not sure that I would have done this. Amen. Yeah. Warrior house ministry is the name of our ministry. Um, it was given to us like prophetically. And, and when, when, when we learned to hear the name of our ministry um it was given to us like prophetically and and when when we learn to hear the voice of god then the voice of god becomes manifest destiny in our life and we can release it so we we still have to use you know a lot of people the danger of prophetic words is that some people just want them all the time as affirmation but what we're called to do with them

is we need to take those prophetic words and go out and use them. You could have been like, man, that'd be awesome if I start a podcast. But no, you went and did it. You went and found a place and God opened the doors. And then now, you know, we're going on a few, how many months now? Six months? We're about, what, to the show? Yeah.

About eight months in now. Eight months, man, That's so good. You can't get, like you're saying, you can't get this prophetic word about, you know, having a message being shared all over the world and never step out. I mean, you have to align with God. Like, it's a beautiful, what's the right word? Partnership's not even the right word. Partnership, yeah. Partnership, yeah. It's like a sword, you know.

If a prophetic word, think of it as a sword. If you put that sword up on the shelf and be like, man, that's a pretty sword that God gave me. Look at that sword. Look at that word that God gave me. And then you never go out and use the sword. It's just going to be a pretty-looking sword in your room. Yeah, some people don't like to hear this, but you can have a great destiny on your life, but that doesn't mean it's going to get fulfilled. No.

No, you got—your destiny was written before time. Your destiny was written before you stepped foot on the earth and, and in Jesus Christ, who he is in you, he begins to unroll that destiny scroll and you begin to, to walk it out. And so I, you know, I, anyway, we don't have to go too much into that. No, I say this to help people not to be hard because, you know, I hear people sometimes are like, you say something, they're like, oh, well, that was prophesied over me. As if it's going to happen regardless of what you do. No, we're all going to miss, we're all going to miss things that people, you know, if I'm being very honest, we're all going to miss a lot of what God has for us. I mean, how many times have you walked by someone and the Lord told you to pray for them and you didn't?

How many times, you know, but the Lord is patient with us, but we have to step out and allow him to, and ultimately our destiny is who we are in Christ. He changes us from the inside out. And so the ultimate destiny of every Christian is that the image of Jesus is formed in us. But by the time we go to heaven, the Bible says we're going to grow from glory to glory. Our eternal destiny will definitely be related to how much we walked it out on the earth and how much Christ was formed in us.

And we're not all going to get it perfectly, but the fact is that not everything, you know, people say, oh, I missed it. It must not been the will of God. That's really a bad saying that we have in the church. Oh, I, you know, I wasn't, you know, that prophetic word never happened. It must not been the word of God. No, you got the prophetic word and you never partnered with God and allowed him to get you uncomfortable enough to where you were obedient to it. So these are hard words for people, but definitely true. It is what it is, man. That's one of the reasons that we do this. I tell people, like I told you the night before the conference, I was talking to this young lady and she said something. I was like, well, it's not going to

be like a kumbaya meeting. And she's like, what do you mean? I was like, well, it's going to probably be like something like convicting to your heart. And she started getting like flustered and red in the face. I was like, what's going on? She's like, it's like, you're staring into my soul. Look, the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. And, and, um, God is not cookies and chocolate milk all the time. He wants to, he wants to rip out things and strongholds in your life and get you uncomfortable. And we have to be willing to repent and take on the mind of Jesus to be transformed. And that,

that, that sometimes is hard. You know, God, God is a God. The Bible says he, those who he loves, he rebukes and disciplines.

So be earnest and repent. So God's a dad and he's a good dad and he won't keep, he doesn't want you to stay the same. Yeah. You say cookies and milk. I say he's not like a kitty cats and rainbows all the time. So look, bro, we have about 10 minutes left on the show. I don't know where your heart is or where you'd like to go, but see if the Lord puts something on your heart you'd like to talk about

or something you really feel led to share. And just again, we're just going to thank the audience for everybody for watching. You know, thank you for sharing the show. Again, that's how people get to see this all over the world. And comment if you have any questions for John or myself in the next 10 minutes before we get off the air. Anything that happened at Bridge the Gap as well. My comments are coming in a little late. Sometimes that happens. But anyway, so bless you guys.

What's on your heart, John? Well, if there's anything that anyone would like prayer for or any prophetic words, we could do that as well if anyone asked for them. But just in general, I can share a little bit about where, because I've been praying a lot for the nation. I can share a little bit about that. I feel like right now we're going into a season where the Lord told me, get ready to build my kingdom. And we talked a little bit about it earlier, but building the kingdom of God and what should we be doing? Like what should the church be doing right now? The church should be focused a lot more on prayer, intercession, and worship than

building buildings, building programs, building, and there's nothing wrong with those things. But right now, you know, a question that the Lord has been asking me to release to ministers is when you guys gather, what is your focus? Is your focus on just teaching a good message? Is your focus on making sure that the attendees come back the following Sunday? Or is your focus on encountering God, encountering his presence and allowing his presence to actually do something in your congregation? So Ephesians 2.22, it talks about becoming, being built to be a place where the Lord's presence can actually dwell. A lot of people like when the presence of God falls, right? But there's a difference between when the presence of God falls and when the presence of God begins to stay.

And our churches, our places of meeting, our houses, our bodies become dwelling places for the Lord. So I believe that the Lord is calling the church to refocus itself on becoming a place where we are hosting his presence. And we don't even actually start our meetings until we know his presence is moving. You know, a lot of times we go, God, would you just fall on this place, God, during the meeting? Would you come into this place? What if we refused to even do anything until we knew his presence was there leading? And so that's something that the Lord has just called us, called me to begin to pray into the body of Christ is let's refuse to even do anything, just like Jesus refused to do anything unless he first saw his father doing it. Let's refuse to do anything, just like Jesus refused to do anything unless he first saw his Father doing it,

let's refuse to do anything unless the Spirit of God begins to lead. And I promise our churches, our nation will be transformed if we shift it back into a posture of prayer and into a posture of just wanting to host his presence. And sometimes it takes a lot of waiting on God. Waiting on God is a practice that's lost in the church, being still before him and not doing anything until you know he's moving. And people don't like that. People don't like silence. People don't like quiet. They want to be entertained. They want to hear something good. They want their ears tickled. But if the church doesn't learn, even corporately, how to be still before the Lord, we'll never get to the next level where he's taking us. Yeah, it's good. And to you know, to even simplify it, it's like, well, just die to yourself.

And I always have this prayer, even when I'm speaking or even on the show, it's like, I understand that I'm here, but it's like, God, I'm invisible. All they can see is you. They can only see the Jesus in me. Amen. Yeah. And when they show up to your meetings, they should see Jesus. They should feel Jesus.

You know, when God shows up to our meeting and they're like and they're like, you know, they're not they leave transformed. That's a lot of times that's on us because, you know, we have an agenda. When Candace Smith, the man who's a world known prophet. I mean, look, I said this before that the bridge, the gap event matters to God. When you have somebody like Candace that come in that, you know, literally two days before the show, she filmed 14 episodes on Sid Roth. The weekend before that, she's in the Canadian parliament praying and speaking in the Canadian parliament. She comes into green County. And the first thing that she's the night before the event, she walks into our little old barn and she said, wow, the anointing of God is on this place.

The angelic is all over this place. Like people like that that see like they know you're not going to make that stuff up. And, you know, the unfortunate thing is like you might think, oh, we're in a church, we're in a sanctuary, but you can have a prophetic seer come in. And unfortunately, that's not always what people see no no there's there's either you know uh there's something called a spirit of religion and a lot of a lot of times when we gather and we're not and our motives aren't right and our heart's not right you know there's there's a different spirit at work even within the church and that's just a sad reality and kansas man she was. I was so blessed to meet her. Everyone should know who Kansas Smithman is.

Her material is incredible. But more than anything, her teaching is anointed. I've almost never seen someone who had such wisdom and understanding and anointing at the same time. A lot of times you'll see kind of like more wisdom and understanding, but there was such an incredible balance and power of wisdom and understanding of the Word of God and anointing because she gave a powerful word on giving your firstfruits to God. When you give your firstfruits to God,

everything else will be blessed in that area. And at the end of her message, it was a challenging word that she gave, but the Spirit of God fell with such heaviness and such conviction that I was looking around and there wasn't many dry eyes in the room. And it was like a spirit of fear, the fear of God. And I think everyone left that meeting that night trusting God more with their finances, with their life, with their blessings than they did when they came in. And she's an amazing woman of God. Yeah, absolutely. We love Candace.

Joe said John is an important voice for the kingdom, and he has a now word on his lips. Amen. I'd say you're right. Amen. I'm just messing. I'll just tell people this because, you know what, the show's coming to an end. And, I mean, for the Bridge the Gap event, and now we're, like, really becoming intertwined for your conference

and my conference. And you're really my right-hand guy for that event. And, you know, I just appreciate you and love you and love your family. I mean, my goodness, our kids so look forward to seeing each other. I mean, gosh, Kai is, like, they just had a blast. Yeah, we had a whole day on Sunday. Me and you had never hung out for a whole day and just hung out, our families. And I loved it. I mean, I loved it just as much as I loved Saturday. And it was great to get to know you guys. And as Kingdom, man, we, as Kingdom brothers, we sometimes hanging out is just amazing,

getting to know and loving on one another. And we're having a conference in the end of June when you'll be one of the speakers. And that'll be in Ohio. We'd love to see you guys come. We're going to have an intercession conference. We have intercessors come from all over the world. And it's going to be an amazing, amazing time. And I'm so glad that we get to pour into each other's ministries

because that's what we have to do is, you know, a lot of us have strengths and a lot of us have things that we need to grow in. And when we pour into each other, that's how the body of Christ grows together. Absolutely. Avila, I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing it right. Avila Lofton says, Mr. Martin, Andrew says hello. Do you know who that is? Hey, Andrew. Yeah. it's been a while but

yeah so look uh anything that you want to share about your ministry or anything else that you have going on that you'd like to plug before we get off the air um i i the main thing that we you know we do one conference at the end once a year and i'll just plug that a little bit more as we call it an intercession conference. It'll be in West Milton, Ohio. You'll see it coming up, but it's the last weekend in June. We do an all day Friday, all day Saturday event where we pray for two days straight. We do worship, we do ministry, we do healing with all that stuff, but the focus of it is praying. And by the end of that time, there's such a momentum when God's people come together and pray for two days straight. Like every year, God does something that blows my mind. And not only does something that blows my mind, it's always a surprise. Like we don't know what

it's going to be, but usually it ends up in the news the next day or in the week to come. And that's what I love about intercession is intercession is just learning to be learning to hear from the Lord. You know, like you said, mentioned earlier, Jesus would make mud. Jesus would drive out people. What was he doing? He was interceding. He was bringing the kingdom of God on earth.

It looked foolish. It looked like it didn't make sense. But I'll tell you what, it made a huge difference. So intercessors, they shift the earth. They shift the times. They make history.. They make history. Intercessors make history. And behind everything, there's prayer that happens. Anything good that happens in the earth, usually there's prayer behind it. So it was an honor to be on your show. I love you so much, brother. And I'm excited where the Lord is taking both of us as servants

to the body of Christ. And yeah, thanks again for having me on. Absolutely, brother. John Gamis says, thanks, Nate and John. Good word. Have a blessed week. We appreciate everybody watching. Is there anything else that you want to share? Anything for Virginia that's on your heart or anything for the show before we go? Oh man, I'd just love to pray a quick blessing on it.

I didn't think about it, but I just love to pray where the Lord is leading. Father, in the name of Jesus, we thank you. We thank you for this show. We thank you where the Lord is leading. Father, in the name of Jesus, we thank you. We thank you for this show. We thank you for the state of Virginia. We thank you for Nate's ministry. And I thank you.

I just want to bless it in the name of Jesus. Everyone that's watching right now, I want to say in the name of Jesus, I just pray a greater awareness of your presence, a greater awareness that Jesus lives within them. And Lord, I just pray right now that people would begin to have encounters with the Lord tonight in the name of Jesus, Lord, that we would seek a tangible, real relationship with you in the spirit. Father, the last thing I'd like to pray, Revelation talks about eye salve. It talks about opening our spiritual eyes. I just want to release right now, eye salve over our eyes. Just begin to just trust. We would not trust what we see with these eyes, but that we would begin to open and fix our eyes on the unseen realm. Fix our eyes on Jesus, who is the author and the perfecter of our faith. And I bless my brother Nate in the name of Jesus

with greater vision, greater clarity for what you're calling him to. And I bless my brother Nate in the name of Jesus with greater vision, greater clarity for what you're calling him to do. I bless his heart to stay soft and malleable and just remain the beautiful servant that he is. And we bless his family and ministry. We bless the show and we bless that station in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you, brother. Love you. One of my dearest friends, amazing man of God, John Martin. Thank you so much for a great show. Bless you guys. Thank you for watching. Thank you for sharing the show. And we just thank you for your support and your prayers. And so I just want to say, uh, we're going to look forward to next week. We actually have Brian Britton on the show.

Uh, Brian is an apostle. He is a missionary. I mean, he travels the world literally all the time, sharing the gospel in Brazil and Africa and Europe. He's part of Ivers Global with Heidi Baker, and he's also a personal friend. And so I'm excited to see what next week's show is going to bring. So bless you guys. I speak life and love and healing over your bodies and your minds in the name of Jesus. We thank our sponsor and partnership with opening doors, real estate and Melanie Morris. And I love you guys and God bless and have a good week. Hi guys. Bless you.