The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Josh & Maria Adkins Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show!”

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Josh & Maria Adkins of Sent Ones Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love ...CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com. “The White Mountain Ministries Show” is presented by Opening Doors Real Estate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. We just thank you for watching, for listening, for praying, and for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. We're very, very excited for our kingdom connections. We have our first official couple as a guest on the White Mountain Ministry Show, Josh and Maria Atkins. And I know there are going to be people that are tuning in today just to see them and what the Lord is going to do through them. So we were going to bring them on in just a few minutes, but there's a couple of things I need to talk about with the
Starting point is 00:01:00 show before we get rolling. All actually very important things. So first thing I want to touch base on, I'm going to honor today's show to my brother, Rick Shaw, who passed away last week. Good friend, good brother in Christ, a friend of the show. His dear wife, Barbara Shaw, is an apostle in the Shenandoah Valley. She's been a guest on our show. And I was actually in the room without going into too many details. The Lord had me show up just as Rick was passing to go be with the Lord. And it was actually, it was very peaceful and it was beautiful because I know that those moments to have the revelation of Jesus Christ, to be able to witness him go and be with the Lord. It was actually honoring to be
Starting point is 00:01:45 there. It was powerful. It was beautiful in ways that people might not think, but he's gone on to be with the Lord and we love you, Rick. So praise God. Next thing I want to talk about, please share the show. If you guys are watching, share the show because this show is being watched all over the world. I know at least six different continents. I'm not sure about Antarctica, but at least six different continents around the world have had the opportunity to watch our show. And that's because people are sharing it. So please share the show. I had a young man the other day in my hometown. We went to see, I'll give a plug for a movie. It's called Forge. It was actually a really awesome Christian movie. We took my dad on his 70th birthday. And the young man who was checking us out to give the ticket stubs to,
Starting point is 00:02:30 he looked at me. He said, hey, don't you have that podcast? And I said, well, yes, I do. He said, you know, a friend of mine shared that to me. He texted me. And it has really been impacting my life. And so without you guys sharing it, that's how this message gets spread. It's not about seeing my face. Of course, that's beautiful. message gets spread. It's not about seeing my face. Of course, that's beautiful. But we know that what God is doing through this show is being, people's lives are being impacted. So I thank God for that, too. The last thing that I'm going to talk about, I cannot see it, but I saw it before the show.
Starting point is 00:02:58 If you haven't noticed, we're almost three and a half months into the show. We have our first official partnership of the White Mountain Ministry Show. Very exciting news. It's with Miss Melanie Morris and Opening Doors Real Estate. Awesome logo. It looks great on our screen. And the first thing I thought when I saw that logo is the keys to the kingdom, that the Lord is giving you new keys. And I do believe that there are going to be doors that are going to be unlocked for you in the natural, but also doors that are going to open for you in the spirit. And I know that it is, uh, it takes courage to be able to put your business name on a show like this, something for the kingdom of God.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But I do know that God is going to honor that. You're going to have favor over that business. That business is going to be blessed. And I know that you are not partnering with this show because of that. And that's beautiful because the Lord knows your heart, but you are partnering that business with the kingdom of God. So I just declare just this abundance and fruit for your business. And we are honored and excited about this new partnership in Jesus name. So, all right, Judah, my man, Judah, the line of Judah is our main producer over here, always making everything run smoothly. So all I have to do is have my pretty face on the set and I have a couple more beautiful faces about to join me, Josh and Maria Atkins. So let me know when they are on the screen, Judah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 All right. What's up, guys? You're live. Hey there. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, we're honored to be here. Thanks for having us. So like I said, you guys are our official first kingdom couple on the show, and I know that that is going to be a unique dynamic. We're going to get to witness your marriage and how you interact on screen. No pressure.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I told you guys I was going to mess with you a little bit, so no, I'll be good. But we're going to have fun today. So, you know, you guys I know are from St. Louis, Missouri, and Josh and I especially have been Facebook friends for many years. We have good, real mutual friends like Sean Hurley, who have both, you know, been a great impact on our lives and of course others as well. But I know that you guys had your own ministries before you were married and now you're married and you're going out and sharing the gospel and kind of united as one together. So it's a beautiful thing. And maybe you guys could just individually just tell us a little bit about yourselves and what the
Starting point is 00:05:33 Lord's doing with you. Sure. First of all, this is not our living room with a bunch of saints behind us. We're actually in a hospital chapel room, and it's where we came to do the interview today because we're taking care of my mother, who's in Houston getting some treatment, and she's doing good. But anyway, that's our environment here. But yeah, we have a ministry called Descent Ones, and it's our conjoined ministry. And as you said, we both had ministries before,
Starting point is 00:06:08 and of course, lives before, long lives, I guess, you know, because I'm 41 and 35 when we got married. You're not allowed to call out her age, Josh. Yeah, well, 35 is okay. That was the first faux pas. Already getting in trouble my wife would be beating me down it's okay because i'm younger than him by six years i don't i don't mind there you go i assume 340 years old yeah once it crosses that i'll ask judah if we can
Starting point is 00:06:43 edit it but i don't think we can i'm sorry that's all right i don't care i'm just messing with y'all keep going so the lord really brought us together in a very sovereign way and um we we had a really quick engagement uh after we dated for a while and the Lord just came together and did some amazing stuff. And we were engaged for 40 days. We got married last year on 11-11. And because she's super prophet over here and everything in her life is prophetic, and I have to figure all that out because I'm not. But, yeah, the Lord immediately gave us a mandate to join ministries and really partner together.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And honestly, we're still figuring that out, how to run in a way that, you know, there's apostolic, there's teaching, there's prophetic, all these different things on our lives. And actually, it's been incredible, though, every time we go to minister, the grace of God comes in such powerful ways. So really thankful. Is there anything you want to say about it? Well, I would just say, yeah, I mean, we both had long histories with the Lord before we were married. I just didn't know if you wanted to share any of that that happened before. Go ahead. Well, yeah, I mean, years ago, I mean, interestingly enough, for someone that kind of
Starting point is 00:08:06 now the Lord uses my mouth pretty powerfully. But for many years, you know, I was raised in a very religious environment. And so I had no real grid for what it looked like to have a relationship with the Lord. I was raised Catholic, to be honest. Interesting that we're in a chapel right now. But, you know, I just saw the Lord kind of through a lens of, you know, I should fear him, and he's angry at me. And that was about it. And really, through kind of separating myself from the Lord, I loved him, but kind of going through years of rebellion, the Lord brought me back. And then after that, like, I was just hungry.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I was like, Lord, either you're the God of the Bible or you're not, and I want to see either the real thing or I don't want it at all. And so that kind of took me on a journey of just hunger, all while the Lord was kind of dealing with stuff in my own life. But, yeah, I remember I cried out for seven years to hear the voice of the Lord. And it was actually in a season where my life was pretty devastated. This was probably about seven years ago now. The Lord was like, you're going to now give me lordship.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I'm going to take all your broken pieces and I'm going to rework it for good. But he said, the kind of the crux of the matter is that you're going to have to obey me. And so I went through like this radical season of obeying the Lord and he would just direct my steps each and every day. It's extremely supernatural. I saw so many miracles happen. And it really rebuilt my identity. I was super rejected. I had like very little value for myself. And the Lord was like, you need training. And I was like, great, we're going to go to Bible school. And it was really anything but that. It was more like all of hell came against me. And so I had to
Starting point is 00:09:58 learn to war on my own. And so I would spend hours every night for about a year and a half in prayer and worship and just like eating anything I could of the Holy Spirit. And I just started, you know, I had crazy demonic torment happening at the same time, but also these incredible encounters with the Holy Spirit where he would like come on me and I would begin to like dance in the spirit. I was like, is this even a real thing? Does this happen? I dance in the spirit. I was like, is this even a real thing? Does this happen? I literally Googled it because I was like, I wasn't familiar. Google provides all answers, right?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Google was helpful. Yeah, it was pretty wild. I was like, I somehow, the Lord led me to the video of these believers that were dancing by the power of the Holy Spirit in this really beautiful way. That's what's happening to me. And that was kind of like the beginning of just this intimacy that the Lord led me into in relationship with him, which years later, you know, after that season, I ended up working for a discipleship, international discipleship ministry. The Lord kind of launched me to be a director there.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And then I was also leading revival nights in my home and I was doing leadership at the church I was a part of. And so I was like thrusted into ministry and leadership, but it was really the Holy Spirit that taught me everything. I mean, he was like, I thought it was a novel thing to just have a meeting and let the Holy Spirit do whatever he wanted. And so I was like, that's what was a novel thing to just have a meeting and let the Holy Spirit do whatever he wanted. And so I was like, that's what we're going to do, guys. We're just going to have a meeting and let him do what he wants.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I had no idea that was a thing. And the Lord just began to teach me. And he's like, now you're going to teach people the word. Now you're going to learn how to do deliverance. Now you're going to learn how to do healing. And then about a year. Actually live out the gospel is what it sounds like to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Exactly, exactly. And I was working for a spirit-filled ministry at the time, but they were more about identity and truth. And so the functions of revival were not really like, you know, that wasn't their primary focus of their ministry. But revival was definitely a call in my life. And so the Lord just kind of led me through this journey of going really deep with him. And yeah, Josh ended up being kind of a big part of that story, actually, about, I think it was a year and a half after I started doing these revival meetings.
Starting point is 00:12:20 The Lord supernaturally connected us because I was fasting and I was like, Lord, I just want you to give me everything that I need in a 20-hour encounter. And that was the week that Josh and I talked for the first time. And then fast forward two months later, I was at his conference. So what I'm hearing is that Josh is everything that you need in that 20 hours. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Josh was the big key. Yeah, it was wild. I had a crazy impartation that lasted about 20 hours. That's right. Joshua is the big key. Yeah, it was wild. I had a crazy impartation that lasted about 20 hours over the course of like four or five days. And it was actually kind of a preview to the way the Lord really prophesies and does things through me now. Well, Josh, tell us about... It's quite a journey. No, that's amazing. And Josh, tell us a little more about you and then we're going to really get rolling on the show. Yeah, so I was born into an evangelist home. I'm an EK, as we jokingly say, because people say PK, but I'm an EK.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But I didn't really – I knew the Lord from a young age, sincerely, but it wasn't until I was 19 until I really grabbed hold of what it was to, you know, surrender my whole life. And I was encountered by the Lord in my car. The Holy Spirit spoke to me. First time I'd ever heard his voice that way, very loud on the inside. And he said, it's time you give me 100% or nothing at all. And so I pulled the car over. I knew it was the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I said, it was like the wool came off my eyes. What am I doing? I was playing in a rock band. Just being a 19-year-old kid in America, very selfish, self-centered, selfish ambition. And in a moment, the Lord changed my heart. I surrendered my heart to him. And he began this journey with walking with him. And then I worked secular jobs, every part-time job I could,
Starting point is 00:14:13 because I was always one foot in thinking I'm going to get called into the Reinhard Bonnke crusade fields any moment, even though Reinhard didn't know me. And trying to figure out, you know, that whole waiting process and pruning process of your 20s especially. And really, the Lord was just teaching me to be a man and to go to work and to be faithful. So fun, right? You know, stay out of trouble. Yeah, good time. And, you know, there's all the details of that and the weeds of that. But at 33, the Lord gave me the greatest gift up to that point, other than him, himself. I had been praying since I was about 21. I had been baptized in the Holy Spirit in my college dorm room.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And I'd been reading those revival books, those Maria Woodworth, Heather Smith, those were John G. Lake, Catherine Coleman, and, of course, a litany of others. But I had just been asking the Lord, would you allow me to carry your spirit in a way that these men and women do? I did never imagine that I could host him in some of the ways we're seeing now. And then at 33, the Lord opened a door in my apartment we had eight people the first night for just a discipleship meeting and it was in my loft apartment and uh i think it was five months later we had 93 people in my apartment
Starting point is 00:15:39 shaking the floors and people getting healed demons coming coming out. We had to buy more rugs for people to fall out on because it was just, God was just moving. And I also want to honor our mutual friend Brent Kelly was a huge part of a catalyst for the loft. In me, it was a restoration of a fresh baptism in the Holy Spirit. As I said, I'd received that and I was seeing things, but it kind of waned in my life through those pruning and desert years of the 20s. Let me interject on one thing that you were saying really quick too,
Starting point is 00:16:17 because you sound like there was a moment or at least a period that you were doubting that the creator of the universe would actually work powerfully through Josh Atkins, because so many people struggle with that. But it really is. I mean, that's his desire, to work through us. So, anyways. Amen. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You know yourself better than anybody, and you know your failures and your strengths and and I think anybody who's sincere and humble knows it is truly only the grace of God that can let him rest on your life and and do the miraculous things that you desire and I think we do we do romanticize men and women of God that we read about in history. And I love the books that include their humanity and their weaknesses and even their failures. And by no means promoting failure, but it's just a part of the process of God making us who we are. You know, we learn from mistakes and hopefully we fall forward and greater righteousness and holiness because we
Starting point is 00:17:25 understand we need to abide and we need the grace of God so yeah it was a from 33 years old until about 40 I pastored this church called Love Church and we never without exaggeration we never had a single meeting where the Holy Spirit did not come in some supernatural way that was demonstrative. And we had people flying in, driving in from all over the country to this little church, storefront church in southern Illinois in the middle of a cornfield. It was a wonderful time. And then I met Maria, and the Lord was beginning to transition things at the same time. We moved to St. Louis at the same time, got married, and that's a very short version of now we're traveling all over
Starting point is 00:18:11 and she's fixing my hair. It's amazing how you don't have to have a $10 million church to have the power of God flow there, right? Many times it's the opposite. The Lord loves to find people in the middle of nowhere, and he can use people in large churches, but I think it takes an enormous amount of humility and obedience to remain true to the core of the presence of God
Starting point is 00:18:37 because things can become commercialized and performance-driven really easy when you've got a lot of butts in the seats and a lot of bills to pay. So I'm actually really grateful for the training of those seven years, eight years in a cornfield and a storefront church of about 150. I learned so many things I could not have read in a book. So it was a great training ground we have a uh i didn't know it's uh we had a police officer knocking on the door of the studio as you were just saying that so i got sidetracked but all is good that's the police chief of charlottesville just walked in i feel like that's a prophetic sign for some reason so uh Yeah, we could tell you a pretty funny story about police officers and
Starting point is 00:19:26 the Holy Spirit. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you want to hear it now, but one of our recent conferences, we have, we oftentimes see a demonstration of the fear of the Lord, and the conference was over, and we had seen an outpouring of the fear of the Lord. People were on their face repenting, and it was really powerful. No one could really stand. But we left, and it was probably 1 o'clock in the morning. We were packing up, and this girl came over to pray just to thank me for what had happened. And the Lord actually began to prophesy to her through me,
Starting point is 00:19:59 and then we both ended up having, at the same time, we both began to scream under the terror of the Lord, because it was literally like Jesus himself showed up in the front of this church, and we were both on our faces. I couldn't move. All I could do was repent, and, you know, there was probably about eight people out front of the church with us at the time, and both of us at the same time, like, separately, but at the same time, separately but at the same time we're having this encounter with the lord screaming because it was like the fear of the lord and all of a sudden i you know there's a police officer that comes up and like right as uh they come up
Starting point is 00:20:37 we kind of like the holy spirit kind of like i don't want to say he lifted but it was like uh the screaming part stopped and then there was just like this beautiful grace orchestration where the Lord was like kind of protecting us. And he was like, we were like, oh, we just came out of a conference. I mean, Josh was talking to him. I was still on the ground like in this encounter. They had their eyes closed. They didn't know the police had even pulled up.
Starting point is 00:21:01 No. Right when the police were pulling up because someone had called, I guess. Yeah, the intensity would lift. And two different police officers came on two different occasions that night in the course of about an hour. And both times they were like, oh, this is just church stuff, you know, and they left us alone and they
Starting point is 00:21:17 were all for it. We even prayed for one of the police officers. But as soon as they would leave, the Lord would fall again in great intensity. And again, they had their eyes closed. They weren't even of the police officers. But as soon as they would leave, the Lord would fall again in great intensity. And again, they had their eyes closed. They weren't even aware the police were there at least one of the times, if not both. No, I had no idea. Yeah, just a fun thing.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It was one of the most holy and beautiful encounters I've had. But it really confronted me with the reality of God's holiness and how he is to be feared and there's a side of the lord that i think he's restoring to the earth that um it's that fear of him and that holiness of him that causes us to repent but it turned into a really beautiful encounter but anyways it was just funny because we joke about it now we're like we had the cops we had the cops came they were all it was well i'm not sure what's going on today but the lord showed me because this was not with um you know my my intent but you know and josh and i have known each other a little bit over the years maria this is actually the first time we've
Starting point is 00:22:18 ever spoken so um you know your husband named you a prophet so i'm just going to go ahead and say you're a prophet okay i will agree with him because he named you a prophet. So I'm just going to go ahead and say you're a prophet. OK, I will agree with him because he knows you a lot better than me. And the next four shows after this, every single show is a legit prophet. And so this is going to be like the month of the prophets, I guess. And so I'm just going to go ahead and release something to you guys that was given to me only about an hour before the show. Because, of course, we have, you know, prophetic people and intercessors praying for me, praying for our show. And so, you know, the beautiful thing is you're going to bless our region. You're going to bless our
Starting point is 00:22:52 listeners, but I believe we're going to also bless you. Okay. So this was, this was released about an hour ago. He's also a prophet. And he said that when he started praying for the show, that the Lord immediately said to look at your picture, that beautiful picture you all sent me, you know. And he said, first he prayed for you, Maria. The Lord spoke and said, charismatic. Not necessarily as the world would see charismatic, but in a kingdom sense of charismatic. The favor of God is upon you. You operate at a very high frequency.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Divine intel. He said he saw in the spirit that you were swimming in deep waters. And she has a very deep relationship with the Lord. Then the Lord showed there was seaweed wrapped around your legs as he interceded and he prayed, and the seaweed untangled from your legs as you were floating freely again. He believed that that was something you're supposed to release on the show today. Then the Lord spoke the word congenial, that you are very pleasant, you relate well to others. People connect with you spiritually, and that you have the eyes of the Lord. And then for Josh, the Lord
Starting point is 00:24:07 spoke that you are a hero of the faith and that he saw you had the strength of Samson, a warrior for the kingdom. The enemy could not stand before you. The Lord then spoke the following verse, 1 Samuel 18. So the women sang as they danced and said, Saul has slain his thousands and David his 10,000s. The Lord said to tell you, Josh, that he is mine and no one can touch you, just like David. The anointing of David is upon you.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And the Lord said that your marriage is unique, intertwined by you. So I release that over you. Thank you. We received so many confirming nuggets, even just with the way the Lord spoke with us. Yeah, we don't want to take up. That's beautiful. I just felt like I was supposed to share that early in the show.
Starting point is 00:24:58 So there's going to be some prophetic things that are happening. So anyways, you know, Maria, one of the things that I have seen, I think we talked about this yesterday. Actually, I have, sorry, I have talked to you before today. It was yesterday. Just ever seen you. Yes. So I think I used the word wild ones, but you use the word, the term wild horses. And I know that I am a wild horse. I am not meant to be tamed. I know that you guys are not meant to be tamed. And really none of us are meant to be tamed by man and by religion. And I know that you have such powerful insight and vision into this. So can you explain what the wild horses are, what you guys see the Lord doing right now?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah, this actually was a word that kind of started to encapsulate us, I would say, about a year ago, and it just kept coming up. It was actually one of the first ecstatic encounters I had the Lord was speaking to many people in this season. And then recently at our conference, the Lord began to speak this word again about, and he called them the wild ones, but the picture has always been these wild horses. And it's really, you know, we can put God in a box because of the way that our church culture, especially in the Western church has been, where it's been very pleasant and very tame. And it's been very, you know, we come in and we leave, we spend an hour,
Starting point is 00:26:32 we worship and we hear a word and we go, there's a part of the Lord. And I love that he spoke this when he released his word, he said, many believe that my love is tame. And he said, my love is not tame. My love is unto death. And there is a generation of warriors, I believe, that the Lord is raising up in the earth that operate with such a fervency and fire of God's love that they are not tamed by anything other than the Lord
Starting point is 00:27:06 himself. They're not tamed by religion. They are not put in a box. They're not going to stop doing the things that the Lord called them to do because of the fear of man. And it's really that zeal and fire of the Lord that sends them and thrusts them forth. And I think one thing that Josh and I had on our life both separately, and then especially when we came together, is we both were unwilling to tame the Holy Spirit. And it was a revelation that he gave both of us. You know, the Lord, I would have these really unusual encounters with the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I was like, but there was so much fruit. There was so much intimacy. And it was something that would give me such force in being unwilling to compromise in biblical truth unwilling to to back down from the things that the lord said to do because i i recognized the power of his love was something that would um that would transform not just me but many people and really really believe that this generation of people that the Lord is, you know, raising up in the earth are those people that are unwilling to put
Starting point is 00:28:12 the Holy Spirit in a box and to tame him. And I think that type of church structure, I wouldn't say it's completely falling away because, you know, God uses many, many people. But I think as we've been crying out to the lord to see revival in our nation and we've been crying out for a great move of the spirit that's not going to be done in a way that is comfortable and you know looks all pretty in a box it's going to be done in a way that's probably a little bit messy and a little bit uncomfortable to those that haven't seen the Lord in that light where, you know, God is a God that can't be tamed and he's jealous
Starting point is 00:28:53 for his bride. So I really just see these men and women arising in the earth that the Lord is sending out in this hour that are both zealous and, in a good way, wild, and that they're not tamed by religion and the things of men, but they're also extremely unified, and there's a unity in this movement of the Spirit that I think is so important. And in addition to when the Lord has prophesied this like i'm raising up and i'm sending these wild ones he says they will march in one accord like their their footsteps will will be heard because they're marching in line with one another so they're not competing against one another because they know that the the wildness that the lord has put on them the zeal
Starting point is 00:29:40 the things that they're carrying don't compete with anybody else. And that's, it's also the being able to embrace the authenticity of how God has made us to, I'm a very unconventional person when it comes to how the Lord uses me. To be honest, it looks kind of weird sometimes. And you know what, I don't care because, you know, when I kind of stepped into doing ministry stuff, I told the Lord, I said, you can have my dignity. If I can have your glory, you can have my dignity. Amen, I like that. And so he does use me and Josh in unusual ways.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Me more so, it looks more unusual because I operate in a type of ecstatic prophecy that has kind of a physical demonstration to it. But yeah, these are people people i believe this is like a generation that says like i don't i'm not here to care about my reputation amongst men i care more about my reputation before the lord and and what that means and doing his work so and i'm sure you hear a spiritual army rising up right yeah? Yeah. Talk about it, Josh. Yeah, it's part of the mandate. Well, it's just part of the mandate the Lord gave us to, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:51 the ministry sent ones is not about just us being sent. It's to empower and equip and raise up an army of God and join with others who are doing the same so that we are a unified front and there is an army in the earth in any age qualifies who is hungry and humble. Humble and hungry, you know, humble and willing. And the other aspect is the holiness of God. You know, I think if we're going to say we're going to be wild and we're not going to be tamed by religion, there's a fear in hearing that, that, oh, you're talking about rebellion. And I think the Lord has already had that off. He's already heading that off at the pass because
Starting point is 00:31:34 he is pruning in the body of Christ right now. And I think part of that is because he's wanting to purify so that wild horses or wild ones who run are not only running in unity, but they're running in purity and holiness from a heart level. And so that our hearts would be truly after the righteousness of God. And even in our imperfections, we're complimenting one another. We're forgiving one another. And all the things that holiness and righteousness really means with the grace of God is coming against the competitiveness, selfish ambitions, the desires to build empires unto ourselves called ministries. And instead of building skyscrapers up with the word ministry on them, this is our ministry, this is your ministry, the Lord is really tearing down the heights of those, I think, and he is wanting us to go wide, spread wide, you know, build orchards rather than skyscrapers, if you will, unto ourselves. And so that's part of the movement I think the Lord is wanting to bring in the earth as a whole.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And I think, you know, we're privileged to just be some of the voices I think he is encouraging, wanting to encourage others. And then the power of the Holy Spirit and demonstration of that. If that was just a word, you know, we test every word. But everywhere we have gone, even in one year, we've ran faster than I've ever run before all over the states and even over to Greece just recently and coming back. But we have seen the exact same kind of move of the Lord demonstrating his glory and power to confirm the words he's preaching. Yeah, I think, you know, because I know we were going to talk about this today, I was actually revisiting that word that the Lord spoke. And one thing that he said is he said this army or these wild horses,
Starting point is 00:33:48 their coats would be dripping with costly oil. And I think that's a part of it. Like we're not, you can't manufacture first, maybe a time, a gifting may manufacture some level of, of fruit, but I don't think what the Lord is doing in the earth is going to be
Starting point is 00:34:03 manufactured. fruit but I don't think what the Lord is doing in the earth is going to be manufactured anything apart from intimacy and really a life laid down like there's an invitation to a greater death and surrender and that's part of that coming low because when this when these things the Lord has been speaking these things it's actually been met and has been met with the fear of the Lord and people coming low before him. And so to be wild and to be holy means to operate from a place where we fear the Lord more than anything else and that our motives would be pure, the way that we speak of one another would be pure,
Starting point is 00:34:39 and we would do his will over appeasing men. And so it's all of the above. Amen. Beautiful. Yeah. I know that, you know, we talked about this a little bit as well, that a big part of this, this army that the Lord is raising up is this next generation of kids. I call them kids. They're kids to me. And I see, this is not just something we're hoping for. I mean, I know you guys are pouring into the youth. I'm pouring into this. It's been a big part of my walk, you know, evangelizing on college campuses and even in my own home with four young children that I'm raising up for the kingdom of God.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And these kids are tired of just doing church. They're tired of religion. They're tired of boredom. They're tired of no power. They want more, and they really are hungry and i know you guys are seeing i believe it's one of the reasons the lord is calling you and i know you guys will be here in person in virginia someday so can you talk about that next generation maybe what you all see the lord doing there yeah um we've seen kind of a sovereign move of the holy spirit where we've seen kind of a sovereign move of the Holy Spirit where we've gone to minister, where the fire of God is falling on Gen Z and younger, like sovereignly,
Starting point is 00:35:52 like we'll be up there ministering and the Lord will start beginning to prophesy. And they're just getting really a holy impartation that is marking them to be set apart in this generation. And I think part of the reason why is Gen Z and younger than that, they have, they have had access to people in a demonstration of people through social media and media platforms in a way that all of those that are older than us have not, right. They're able to spot what is authentic and what is fake very very very very easily
Starting point is 00:36:28 because they see how much there has been a even in a worldly sense of just manufacturing ourselves and i think they're so hungry for something authentic um even unbelievers see that you know can discern hypocrisy in the church right yes absolutely and they're so hungry for something of power like they're supernatural you see more kids than ever that are getting involved in witchcraft and and so the lord when the enemy comes for his kids he's gonna he's gonna raise a standard against that so i believe he's going to raise a standard against that. And so I believe he's actually just marking this generation to be carriers of his glory. And we, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:09 recently we're ministering in Texas and, you know, we met this mom and she had, she has like three or four teenagers. And she said that they are more on fire for the Lord than she is. They actually wanted to start a house church. They, he said,
Starting point is 00:37:22 I'm one of the kids, he think it was 18 years old. He's like, I've been praying for people and they're getting healed and delivered. I'm not really sure. It's just happening. And that, I just believe, is happening on like a large scale. It's incredible to watch, and we're excited in any way the Lord lets us, you know, help lift up that generation? I think the Lord is looking for fathers and mothers in the faith who will have the humility to not control and not harness the zeal and the power that God is putting on the youth, and at the same time be able to by example and through
Starting point is 00:38:07 love relationship mentor them at the same time the Lord is using them and I think there's a misnomer that has occurred in church leadership for a long time I think this is part of what the Lord is trying to tear down you know know, Jeremiah, the first chapter, Maria is more familiar with this as a life call, but in the first chapter of Jeremiah, he says, I've called you to tear down and to raise up. It's a dual call. There's the death and there's the resurrection in everything. And we don't want death without resurrection, but resurrection without death is kind of like the kernel doesn't fall to the ground and die, and so it remains alone. But if it dies, then it bears much fruit. So I think the Lord is really looking for fathers and mothers of the faith to stop putting a cap on the youth and the younger generations whom God is really putting his fire on.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And they do it, a lot of times we've done it out of protection, out of a desire to keep people from being, you know, put in authority too early in certain positions. And all of that is okay. You know, like we don't thrust somebody who's 18 years old into a position of maybe the pastor of an entire organization. But there is something to the grassroots. Jesus called 12 people who were not from the youth Jews, I jokingly say,
Starting point is 00:39:38 and they were people who were fishermen and tax collectors, and he empowered them quickly. He just taught them along the way. And so I think we have conflated sometimes as fathers and mothers of the faith, and I mean from pastors who are in their 80s all the way down to our age, we've conflated not allowing people to be put into positions that they're not ready for with, at the same time, capping the zeal and the fire and being used. It's just God, when he calls us, oftentimes will baptize us with fire and the Holy Spirit while we're still immature and while we're still young. And he doesn't remove it. He just mentors us along that process. And I think the Lord is trying to get us
Starting point is 00:40:29 back to that kind of a place. Holy. I will bring them up. From every nation and every region. They are the army of the Lord. And they roar, they roar, they roar. They blow the trumpets. They blow the trumpet. They blow the trumpet.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And from their mouth they declare, make way, make way, make way for the king of glory, for the king of glory, for the king of glory. They are not afraid of the wilderness. They are not afraid of the wilderness. For they know the testing brings forth purity. And I am removing every shackle and every chain from their mouths. Every intimidation.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That is kept from them from declaring the truth. And you will hear them. You will hear them. You will hear them. From every direction. Every direction. They will run. They will run. You will hear them. You will hear them. From every direction, every direction, they will run. They will run. They will run. For this is the holy army of the Lord. The time is now. The time is now. The time is now.
Starting point is 00:42:22 They are arising. They are arising. And I have raised up mighty sons and daughters that will lead the charge. They will lead the charge straight into battle. They do not the charge. Straight into battle. They do not fear war. But they blow the trumpets of victory.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Everywhere they go. Everywhere they go. They blow the trumpets of victory. And I have given them mighty weapons of warfare. Swords. Armor. And they will not take it off. But they shall yield it.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And they shall cut off the heads of the giants. That are tied to take the land. Prepare to watch them fall. Prepare to watch them fall. For every high place will be brought low. Every high place will be brought low. Holy, holy, holy. Many of my people have tolerated the giants in the land. Tiptoeing and tiptoeing and tiptoeing.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But I am raising up the Davids. That with one stone. For the kingdom is here. For the kingdom is here. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. I was praying for this today, Maria. I was praying for this. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You're okay. Hey. Yeah. So go ahead. No, sorry. I didn't know. I didn't mean to interrupt. I'm sorry. But no, I mean, we're not going to put God in a box on this show. And that's a beautiful gift that, you know, that he not going to put God in a box on this show. And that's a beautiful gift that, you know, that he's given you. And, um, you know, it's, uh, it's so powerful. There was a live that you guys did at one point months ago, I don't know. And, um, you were, you were doing that ecstatic prophecy. And I mean, I felt power flowing, you know, through you. And, um,
Starting point is 00:45:23 I was like, that, that woman is really moving in power. And I know it's the Lord. And so for people who are watching that, that don't understand that, like, I know that that is the Lord and that's a word from the Lord and it's beautiful and it's powerful and it's important for people to hear. So if you guys are watching this, you know, share it. I believe this, you know, that's not just for, for the people watching the show right now at this moment, that's for everyone to hear. And, um, so, so thank you for, uh, your gifting. Thank you for not, uh, putting or keeping God in a box. And, um, you know, I'm, I'm glad that, uh, the Lord used this platform to, to work through you that way. It's beautiful. So, and I, and I'm even going to say like with the, with, you know, Josh, you were talking about the fathers. We have, as a father,
Starting point is 00:46:06 we have a responsibility to raise up our kids for the kingdom of God in the home. We just can't rely on the church to do this for our kids. It's our responsibility to teach them the kingdom of God. So they don't ever even have these things of, you know, God's not, you know, the Holy Spirit's not alive. He's not for today. The gift's not for today. Any of those things, we have an obligation and responsibility to teach these things to our children. There is, we talked about this yesterday, there is no JV Holy Spirit. And God will use this, you know, these children to do amazing things for the kingdom of God as well. Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. I'm always amazed because we've been together and last year doing a lot of ministry
Starting point is 00:46:51 or doing a lot of Zooms or in person. And I think Maria is even amazed, if I can speak for her, at the way in which the Lord will spontaneously fall in that way. Or, you know, some people say fall. Others are saying the rivers are coming forth. I really think it's both. Both are represented in the New Testament as well.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And however it technically happens in the Spirit, there is a spontaneity to it that none of us are expecting. And that's one of my favorite things about this entire gifting that the Lord has rested on her. I don't know if maybe it might be beneficial just to share one or two minutes about this. Yes, please do. I think that the Lord did this with specific intent for sure, so please talk about it. Because look, this is new. I've never seen necessarily—I've been with a lot of really highly prophetic people, but I don never seen necessarily i've been a lot of a lot of really
Starting point is 00:47:45 highly prophetic people but i don't know that i've been around that so this is good share yeah i mean i'll let maria share for herself and for the majority of it but just to give a preface you know we had never heard this term ecstatic prophecy before about a year ago. And the term is a term that theologians use. Ecstasis is a Greek word that's in the Bible. And it generally means to step outside of oneself and for, in biblical terms, for God to put himself on and take over in a momentary way, especially. And we see this both, really, in the Old and New Testament. We don't see it so much on the surface of the New Testament,
Starting point is 00:48:33 but the more research we did with church history and theologically, in conjunction with some other really solid friends who are biblically solid and strong in theology. But in the Old Testament, a great example is 1 Kings chapter, I believe it's 18, and King Saul is going to try to kill David once again. He's always trying to do that because of his jealousy. And David is hiding out with Samuel, the prophet. Oftentimes a great place to hide out because people don't get away with much when you're around a true prophet. And so David is with Samuel in the company of the prophet. You're in trouble, Josh.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah, well, that's true. And I'm actually thankful. We've had the Lord, not to interrupt the thought, but we've had the Lord interrupt us in the middle of arguments or in the middle of conversations that he didn't like, literally would fall and interrupt us and correct us even.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And even Maria gets corrected, you know, which is what's really amazing to me because it's like, well, this is the Lord because there's no time to speak that way. But just to finish really quick, in 1 Kings 18, Saul goes to try to kill David. 19?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah. And he can't do it because every time he sends a regiment to go kill him, as soon as they come into the presence of the company of prophets, the spirit of prophecy falls on the army men, the military men, and they start prophesying and they can't do anything. So Saul goes himself to try to get the job done. And the moment he enters the company of prophets, the atmosphere of the spirit of revelation the Holy Spirit is bringing, even King Saul says he fell
Starting point is 00:50:16 down to the ground, stripped all of his clothes off, and prophesied naked all night long. And we always joke and say, you know, that's a heresy clip on YouTube if you've ever seen one. But there's something in that that has been missed and this is part of also one of the calls i think on maria's life in particular is a restoration of a higher level of and when i say that i don't mean from condescension but just in all of the word of the lord that there's a reverence for the word of the lord and sometimes in the new testament in our church, we've not quite understood these operations of the prophetic, and we've kind of watered them down a bit. And I think the Lord is restoring a
Starting point is 00:51:10 weightiness to the fact that God can actually take over. And I know there's a verse that says, you know, the Spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet. And there is a yieldedness that Maria lives, but there is also, you know, I'll just sum it up and say, we've known the Holy Spirit as a gentleman in the last few decades, I think, in the modern church, but he's restoring the rushing wind, the part that is uncontrollable, that is
Starting point is 00:51:35 wild, and that's the furious love of God, and that's part of what the prophetic that God... No, that's a great thank you for explaining that scripturally, because, you know, you always have to... Where's that in the Bible? That's the first thing that a religious mind likes to say. Where's that in Scripture? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Why do you think, Maria, you can speak however you want on this, of course, but why do you think the Lord is doing this through you? Yeah, I think it goes back to relationship. So one of the first scriptures of the holy spirit spoke to me i had no idea what it said but i was sitting in my living room and uh he said jeremiah 110
Starting point is 00:52:12 and i was like it was all about being a prophet to the nations and that he would use me to build as a terror and much like jeremiah i was like i don't know what that means but thanks and uh just ask josh i bet he knows yeah well back then i didn't know what it meant right and so i was like i'll just uh you know i'll just you know set that aside it wasn't really an aspiration of mine to be perfectly honest um i just wanted to live for a purpose of the Lord that was beyond myself, you know, and but through years of relationship, my prayer with the Holy Spirit was I want, I want to yield to you. And I know this was probably the Holy Spirit that actually brought that prayer out of me. But I would go on these long fasts for like 21 days, 40 days, and just
Starting point is 00:53:04 say like, Holy Spirit, I want to yield to you. And there was a level of intimacy and relationship that I've built with him over many years where there was in my heart an invitation to let the Lord use me how he wanted to. And it does require a constant, you know, death to myself, because, yeah, it does, and there's moments where I'm like, you know, there's moments where we would be at friends' houses, and amongst a bunch of other ministry leaders, and the Lord would come on me and start prophesying, and I'm like, oh gosh, I don't want to do this right now, but I have given him my yes, right, so I think the main reason is because I've said yes, I think there's also just an element of God chooses who he chooses um my heart I think is like I've always wanted the glory of God and I've always
Starting point is 00:53:53 wanted the supernatural and so what I am so blessed by is whenever the Lord does come on me and prophesy he always matches it with his power, a demonstration. And I think it goes back to what Josh said. For many years, I don't think we've really honored the voice of the Lord the way we should have. And I think he wants to restore the awe back to his voice. And it's not because of me, it's because of him, right? And so he's going to use whoever will say yes to that. And so I think the demonstration of his power in connection to prophecy is something that he's restoring. Because if we look at Acts chapter 2, the very first thing after the Holy Spirit pours out and they begin to speak in tongues is that Peter begins to prophesy. Prophecy is the testimony of Jesus, right? And it was met with demonstrations of power.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And so this is all things that we see in scripture. And so I think the Lord just wants to restore the weight of his voice and that we would actually listen. And I would add that as we've been going around the country and ministering, we've seen the Lord begin to multiply, if you will, different variations, but also the same expressions of this prophetic flow as Maria will pray or will, sometimes we're not even doing impartation, the Lord begins to fall on people in the audience, and there's certain select ones that he begins to ecstatically prophesy, maybe for the first time, or he's using their bodies in a different way to act out different prophetic things. And we see the Lord, I think, wanting to do a move in the earth with all things of the kingdom. But in terms of prophecy, I think he's restoring, I think we've kind of, we don't know everything God's doing, but I think we've seen God say and do, I am restoring the awe, the reverence, the fear of the Lord to the weightiness,
Starting point is 00:55:53 to the prophetic word. And we test the word of the Lord with scripture, of course, and that's part of the fear of the Lord. That's part of the weightiness that we test. But there's something too about wanting to bring the companies of the prophetic, I's part of the waiting that we test. But there's something too about wanting to bring the companies of the prophetic, I think, back together so that it's not about one man, one woman. You'll always use one man in moments, but he's wanting to bring that
Starting point is 00:56:16 unity, that army of the Lord in the prophetic as well, so that we have a healthy and holy prophetic word. There's been a lot of wonkiness in the prophetic stuff as people trying to figure it out. And I think this is all part and parcel
Starting point is 00:56:32 to the Lord wanting to restore righteousness, purity, holiness to his voice. And yet the untamed rushing wind of God. It's the marriage of those two things. So will you guys ever be like sitting there at dinner, eating a nice piece of salmon and that just comes out or it doesn't really work that way? A hundred percent. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I thought that was a funny question, but I guess this, I'm just curious, does it happen like when you're in the, you know, already in his presence or does it, can it just come? That's fascinating. Yeah, it's a great question. I think because we've cultivated a lifestyle of deep relationship with the Lord, I mean, it'll happen at any time. I will say, you know, early on when he kind of, I guess, put a mantle on me, I mean, I would literally go into prophecy for like five hours straight.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And part of the ecstatic part is that he would act things out with my hands. So he would kind of use like a sign language in addition to the whatever he was speaking. But yeah, he would interrupt. I mean, he straight up would interrupt us like if we got in arguments and be like, this is holy and basically rebuke us. That's really hard to argue with your wife
Starting point is 00:57:42 in those situations, doesn't it, Josh? Yeah. It brought a whole weight to grieving the Lord. It's really hard to argue with your wife in those situations, doesn't it, Josh? Yeah. It brought a whole weight to grieving the Lord. It really did. Yeah, there's just so many things. One time, we were trying to go find a restaurant, and we weren't sure where to go eat. Literally, the Holy Spirit came on me. I just got hit with power, and he began to like point go that way turn here like and we literally led us to like this amazing
Starting point is 00:58:09 restaurant no it's cool the way you know the Lord the Lord bringing me back to a moment about a year or so ago uh with my son and it was over Christmas and it was a moment where the literally the Lord can you know just took over in that moment. And the Lord was disciplining my son through me. And it was beautiful. And it was love. And my wife, she's my biggest fan, but she has no problem putting me in my place.
Starting point is 00:58:39 My son was crying. I was crying. And afterwards, my wife was like, I have never seen discipline like that in my life. Like, that was beautiful. I'm like, it wasn't me. Like, it was the Lord. So let's not put him in a box, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Exactly. That's so awesome. I love that story. Another aspect of the divine interruption, let's call it, has been the joy of the Lord. And I think as much as we've discovered the grieving and the weightiness of His holiness that has literally, I've literally, at times, before the Word of the Lord, as He's spoken to us about personal things behind closed doors, but at the same time, we really discovered the Holy Spirit is actually so full of humor and so full of kindness, and there's a playfulness about him. There's a childlike quality to the Holy Spirit that I only knew theologically or mentally before, but we've experienced that through the ecstatic encounters.
Starting point is 00:59:46 When the Lord is at peace with you and you're with him, you know, and he's such a graceful, his mercies are huge, you know, but, you know, people say God's always in a good mood. I don't agree with that, but I do think he's in a good mood most of the time. Yeah. And because there are times where he grieves or he's angry, but for the most part, he is the most healthy, beautifully joyous being in the universe. And we've even seen those ecstatic moments where he, and one of the ways that he does it the universe, and we've even seen those ecstatic moments. And one of the ways that he does it the most, he's done it with us personally in some really beautiful things, I don't even know if we can, we won't even say it,
Starting point is 01:00:32 but during worship, when we're worshiping the Lord, the Holy Spirit oftentimes will come on her and dance, and there is a way in which he speaks that you just, you see pure love, as you said, you see pure joy, pure childlikeness, and so it makes so much sense, because it's like the kingdom of heaven is that of children, right? Jesus said that, you know, suffer them not to come to the kingdom of heaven. But at the same time, he is the almighty God. It's the spectrum of reality of God is all these things. Well, I think, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, I picked a good, go ahead. You're good. Well, I was just saying, I picked a good day to bring my producer he really loves me but I felt
Starting point is 01:01:28 in my heart I brought him a gift today and we are going to go over and I know he's going to be okay with that um because I'm having fun and this is important and this is powerful and um if you have something to say go ahead I'm going to ask you guys two more questions before we end the show though there was something you wanted to say, Mary? I was going to share just one other fun story on our wedding day, actually. And this goes to the timing of the Lord. Like, the Lord's timing is sovereign. But, you know, we asked the Lord to come in a kind of profound way,
Starting point is 01:02:03 just because we wanted him there. And, you know, we went through the ceremony. And and it was you know josh did his vows first but the second i took the ring to do my vows the lord came on me and began to prophesy over our marriage and half of our attendees started getting hit by the holy spirit even like his relatives that really haven't don't experience that very often they were like i was about to fall over. I was trembling under the power of God. Anyways, I just love that because it's just like God loves every – he loves to be involved in every aspect of our life. And then the fact that he would kind of interrupt you and take over in a moment of discipline, like I love that.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Because to me, like that's the Lord that we experience. And more people need to know Him that way. And I know that that moment, that discipline truly was an extension of His love. Like, that was love in that moment. Yes. So it's beautiful. I totally believe that. So we're having a good time.
Starting point is 01:02:58 You guys have been well-behaved as a married couple on the show with each other. So I appreciate that. But as we know, I mean, you guys have only been married 10 months. So in my world, that's like honeymoon phase, but it does sound like you've even, even you guys have had your moments. It might be a little easier for you guys because it seems like the Lord just interrupts, which that's beautiful. But for, you know, a lot of people, it might not work that way. So maybe you guys can talk about just, you know, let's call it being equally yoked, being in ministry together, having the support of your spouse, having the kingdom of God in your home and in your marriage, maybe anything on your heart that you can release to the audience about that. Well, I would say one thing.
Starting point is 01:03:38 That's for both of you. I always ask the Lord, I said, I want, yeah, I want somebody that for women that are maybe not married or even if you are, but one thing I asked the Lord for is said I want yeah I want somebody that for women that are maybe not married or even if you are but and one thing I asked the Lord for is that I want someone that can teach me about the word because I had previously in other relationships always been the spiritual leader and I was a little like I want more and that was like a really important thing for me and so Josh you know I think one of his primary calls he's apostolic and a teacher. And so he's, the Lord's really given him a profound teaching gift. And so it's just been awesome for me to kind of have that, I guess, leadership in our relationship in that way.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But of course, we would be lying if we said that we got along all the time marriage is not marriage is not easy like i think there's a reason that jesus paul those guys didn't even get married right oh yeah but it's also a very beautiful thing it's a beautiful thing yeah i think there's a complementary nate well it's a complementary nature of marriage, especially with us. We are different, and yet our heart towards the Lord is the same. And I think the journey, as much as I can say 10 months in, but we've been through a lot. We've been in this microcosm of exponential confrontations
Starting point is 01:05:03 and coming together in beautiful moments and ministry moments and personal moments. And it's been really accelerated, I feel like, because we've known each other for three years, but we're also older. We got married older and later in life. Maybe you, Josh. That's right. Maybe you're older. Maria looks not a day over 25 so thank you thank you don't worry josh i'm happily married just giving the young lady a compliment oh i'm not worried um yeah it just comes with other challenges if you were all set in our ways i mean and i think that's just part of what we discovered. But I think one thing I will say that's actually serious is I think the Lord really grew me literally from the moment we got married out of this whole mindset that I was culturally brainwashed with, which was everything is as great as it will ever be, like, up to the
Starting point is 01:06:09 wedding day and on the wedding day. This is the most romantic thing that you're ever going to experience. And I think we've kind of, I believe, to lie that if, like, everything's supposed to be perfect and that's the height. And it was really like a duh moment, but it was a revelation to my heart to realize the Lord was like, marriage is the journey of growing in love that's continually growing in love and love and love.
Starting point is 01:06:37 And we truly mean this when we say this. We're only two months in, so everybody will laugh at this. Ten months. Ten months. We love each other far more now, I think, than we did even ten months ago on our wedding day. Because there's just something about that's the way the kingdom is with everything. And you will continue to love each other more and more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And so that's something I will never share with younger people the rest of my life. I grew up with believing this kind of Disneyland or Disney movie kind of thing, and there's certainly romantic moments, there's passionate moments, all those things. But marriage being the continually uphill growth process of your love grows. And that's beautiful. And then that takes all this pressure off. Like, we get to grow together the rest of our lives. So that's my take on it.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah, I think it really teaches us to love like Christ loves. And I know those are words that we probably hear a lot from, you know, pastoral ministry people, but it's true. I mean, because Christ accepts us and our brokenness, and then he gives us the grace to change and evolve and, like, mature and grow. And I don't think there's any other relationship that you're going to have to have greater grace for than your spouse that you are with all the time. They see your weaknesses.
Starting point is 01:08:07 They see every flaw in the natural for sure. And we can be quick to let them know. But, hey, you guys have been awesome. It's been special. I really thank you for being vulnerable and just sharing your hearts and sharing your relationship. You guys may have even forgotten that there's actually people that are going to watch this, but I think it's a good thing. You know, people see you guys as, you know, sometimes he's maybe, you know, above life, a bit larger than life type personalities and social media followings and everything. But, you know, you're human too. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:40 you have marriage isn't always easy. And, you know, I think it's good to show the vulnerability, show the human side of yourself. But you're amazing people of God. We're honored to have you on the show. And so thank you for spending your time with us. I'm going to ask one more question. I always ask this at the end of the show. And, Maria, I know you're the prophet of the two. But, you know, it's very strategic where this show airs in the middle of downtown mall,
Starting point is 01:09:05 Charlottesville, Virginia, and what the Lord's doing through it. So I ask if there's anything that the Lord has on either one of your hearts for the city of Charlottesville, our region, or even the show in general. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, it just meets into my heart. The Lord wants to bring true justice, and true justice looks like him. It doesn't look like a movement. It looks like him. And I think in the United States, it's been grasping at what does it mean to walk in justice and equality and all these things. In general, these are good terms, but they can be perverted by our worldly flesh in the way that we try to live them out.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And I think we've seen elements of that in 2020. True justice doesn't burn cities to the ground. True justice brings unity and unifying, and it brings protection. And that's not Republican and Democrat. That's not left and right. Justice brings unity and unifying, and it brings protection. And that's not Republican and Democrat. That's not left and right. That's not white and black. That is Jesus.
Starting point is 01:10:12 That's the blood of Jesus. It's red. And I think that's part of what the Lord wants to do for sure. Amen. Yeah. The thing I keep hearing is it's black gold, which represents oil. And I just feel like there's a... I actually don't know much about your city, to be perfectly honest. Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah, that's good. But when the Lord highlights oil to me, I mean, that's always a sign of intimacy and connection. And so I just want to speak to the people, um, of that region that I believe that there's an oil that the Lord wants to pour out in this, because I just see it all over the ground and saturating the ground. And I just want to speak that you would be a people that would choose to be the wise virgins and have your oil lamps full and be a people that saturate the ground
Starting point is 01:11:06 spiritually with your oil, your oil of intimacy, your oil of connection with the Lord, because oil is not something that can be easily cleaned off. It's not like water, right? It leaves a residue. And I just believe like the Lord wants the people of that region to leave a residue of the kingdom. So I just, I pray that over you guys, that you would just continue to come up higher and just bless those that already are releasing their oil in that place. So thank you, Lord.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Thank you guys. Bless you all. You're a beautiful couple. And I just speak just life and joy and laughter and love over your marriage. And Josh, also, I pray, I know your mom's probably just in the other room there. I speak complete healing over her right now in the name of Jesus and life over her in the name of Jesus, that any lingering sickness or symptoms,
Starting point is 01:11:55 that they go right now in the name of Jesus. Thank you, Lord. So did you put your hand, you guys put your hand on her and just release it in Jesus name. Cause I know what the doctors might say, but I believe she can get out of the hospital today. Amen. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you guys. So thank you to the listeners guys. We really appreciate you. There's been so many beautiful things that have been released on the show today. So please share it. So this can be seen all over the world. It's the power of the kingdom, but also the power of social media. So if you're watching now, if you're watching later, we appreciate you. And next week we are going to have Lisa Perna on from New Jersey. She has her own show. She's a prophet. Lots of fun. I know
Starting point is 01:12:37 it's going to be a vibrant show. So again, Josh, Maria, thank you. Thank you for letting me have a good time and messing with you all a little bit today. I'm gonna have to have more couples on the show. I think it's a really good dynamic and it was a great show. So bless you guys. Everybody who's watching, I speak life and love and healing over your bodies, your minds in the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And we'll see you next week. God bless. Thank you.

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