The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Marc Mauvis Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

Marc Mauvis of Destiny Revival Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CV...ille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for watching and listening and praying for us. And I thank you for being a part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. And we are very excited for the show today. We're excited for our guest, Mr. Mark Malvise, who will be joining us live from Louisiana. And before I introduce Mark, I think that you guys can already see him on the screen. No, they cannot.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Okay, but that's all right. You will see him shortly, and he's much better dressed, much better looking than I am, so we are in for a treat. And so just a couple of things before we get going. So we are officially starting the second month of the White Mountain Ministry Show. So as far as the first month goes, just want to talk about some things. So the feedback has been amazing guys. And you know, I really don't know, sometimes obedience, you don't know what you're stepping into. The Lord called us. He called me to do this show. It's not something that I went out and was seeking. And, um, you know, it's been
Starting point is 00:01:30 really interesting on some of the things that have happened through the first month. He is really giving women a voice on the show, which is not something that I would have expected, but knowing the Lord and knowing his heart, it makes sense. And women are being empowered. And Barb Shaw was on the show last week, and she really talked about women, females in the church. And she had women reaching out to her, wanting to get together with her, who were impacted, were inspired by what she shared. And of course, you know, there was maybe some hate, a little bit of hate on that too. But guys, that is okay, because, we're not here to tell everybody the things they want to hear. We're here to share the things that people need to hear that are coming from the Lord. And what Barbara shared last week is something
Starting point is 00:02:13 that a lot of people need to hear. And, you know, as far as myself, like I am not here to, you know, do not conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed through the renewing of your mind. I am not here to conform. I am not here to make everyone happy. I'm here to do what the Lord is calling me to do. So anyways, it's been beautiful. We have people that have been reaching out that are watching the show in the middle of the night, asking for prayer, for ministry, people where the Lord is just touching them powerfully through the show. We have people who have been healed watching the show through ministry time. And anyways, it's been exciting. One thing that I do want to touch base on, I thought this was really cool. This is not a show about politics at all, and I'm not going to go there, but I did watch the
Starting point is 00:03:02 presidential debate last week, and I thought it was very interesting that more than any other town or city in America, what was talked about on that presidential debate was Charlottesville. They talked about Charlott, but this show is airing in the middle of downtown Charlottesville, where all the stuff that the presidential nominees were talking about was going on. And there's a reason that the Lord has called us to do this in this location. This is with specific intent by design from the Lord. And I just want to say that the Lord is going to transform the city of Charlottesville. We declare that in the name of Jesus. So look, I'm going to transform the city of Charlottesville. We declare that in the name of Jesus. So look, I'm going to introduce Mark. Is he on? Can we see him? Mark, you are on. Beautiful. So I know that this man is probably chomping at the bits. You can see he's colorful. I've only known Mark for
Starting point is 00:04:01 a few months, but he's one of the most powerful anointed ministers that I have ever met. He is a fireball. He is full of energy. He's going to make my energy step up on the show because he's going to make me look tame, more than likely. So I want to introduce my friend, Mr. Mark Malvise. Look, names matter in the kingdom of God. It's not Mark Mavis, not Mark. When we met, I said, Mark, how do you pronounce your name? And my son likes to say it. He walks around the house. He says, I can see it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I can say it, Dad. He said, it's Mark Malvis, originally from South Africa, joining us live from Louisiana. So Mark, introduce yourself. Hey, can you hear me, first of all, before we continue? Perfect. Awesome. Okay. Well, I was just getting my live feed ready here, just in case anybody starts engaging in the comment section before long. I'm super excited to be on this call. I'm just thrilled at what the Lord has initiated with you. Not to get ahead of myself, you know, just
Starting point is 00:05:09 a South African young man. I still like to see myself as young, so I'll just claim that I'm still a young man. All the way out in Louisiana, I've been in the United States now for about 24 years, have traveled to the nations along with my wife and four kids. We have four kids now. In the early years, we were traveling pretty much extensively. But just to back up a little bit before that, I grew up on a little island in the Indian Ocean called Mauritius, even though I was South African by birth. And my mom and dad were used martyrily by the Lord in the charismatic renewal. God radically came and encountered them. And the Lord spoke to them early. In the early years, my dad had left that island that I just
Starting point is 00:05:58 mentioned, went to South Africa, met my mom. And when they got radically saved, the Lord audibly spoke to them. They went to Mauritius. So I grew up around the things of God in the ministry. And long story short, in June of 1996, June 30th to be exact, I didn't know what I was going to do with my life. I knew one thing that if nothing changed, I had a little bit of a glimpse of the future. And that future had me six foot under or in jail for the rest of my life. I just knew it. And I had a moment, an awakening, a sobering moment, an epiphany. And that came none other than by the help of the Holy Spirit and went to my mom and dad, laid all the cards on the table, told them, hey, this is what I've been involved with that day, gave my life radically to the Lord,
Starting point is 00:06:55 have never looked back. And I knew the moment that that happened, I knew with all of my heart that the Lord had called me into full-time ministry from the age of 18 years old, June 30, 1996, traveled to South Africa from the island. Coming into early 2000 was when I started to get my feet wet in the United States of America. Most people are trying to go to third world countries from the United States into the mission field. God called me to America. America is my mission field. And so, you know, when you see all of these pictures of these kids starving around the world,
Starting point is 00:07:33 of course, I'm moved with compassion. But, you know, when I start looking at the state of the church in America, and this is not in any form, way, shape, or form from the critical aspect at all, but I do know that there is a spiritually, a church, mind you, nevertheless, that is malnourished. And the Lord gave me a vision of the church in America with a looping video, actually, probably about eight years ago of these kids in Africa that were malnourished. And I said, Lord, why are you showing this to me? And he said, well, he goes, what if I told you that that's the way a lot of the church in America looks? They're spiritually without the proper spiritual nutrition.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And he said, I've called you to come and to carry my anointing, to bring them to the place of spiritual thirst and hunger again so that they can receive the nutrition that they need to revive the church. So here I am, officially 2004, made my move. God said, go to America. I want you to base yourself out of there. Met my wife in 2005. And actually, today, the 2nd of July, 2024, is my 19th year anniversary of my wife and I. Congratulations. We're celebrating that today. Thank you. And you're spending it
Starting point is 00:08:55 with me, so I am very blessed. We are very blessed. It's good to be here. You know, I can say a lot more, but... And you will. That was my little... Indeed. I just wanted to just kind of accelerate the intro there for you. Thank you, brother. So you are our kingdom connection for the day. And, you know, it's interesting because the way that we met, you came to the heart of the home several months ago out in Timberville. And I remember you got up and you'd been there for a couple of days and everybody was like, you got to meet this guy. You got to meet this guy. You got to meet this guy. And I did feel in my heart to come meet this guy. And when you first started talking that night, we shook hands when I walked in the door, we didn't get names. You didn't know anything about me. And I sat in the back corner of the room. And it was
Starting point is 00:09:43 funny because you made the comment about, you know, you only give words when you feel led by the Lord to give prophetic words. And you say, you know, people that will stand in the, sit in the front row with a lime green shirt on, neon green shirt on, ready to get a word. Well, I was in the backhand corner. Before you even started your message, the Lord highlighted me to you, and you called me out in the back of that room, and you gave me one of the most powerful prophetic on spot where spot on words I've ever received in my life. I was even that that evening I was in during worship. I was praying to the Lord because some things were going on. And I said, Lord, I said, I refuse to get bitter.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I will love them. And one of the things you said to me, you said, yeah, you know, there were times where you wanted to get bitter, but you stayed faithful with the Lord. And I was like, whoa, I mean, you were all over it. And it was just a beautiful moment. And, um, you know, you, you have a heart for Charlottesville, which we found out later that night. And it was just one of those moments where, you know, you have people to speak into your life, but I think that we both knew the moment that we met, you even made the comment, you said, I don't know you, brother, but I like you. And a relationship, a connection in the spirit was established. And, you know, we've gotten to know each other and you're just an amazing man
Starting point is 00:10:54 of God. So I'm honored to have you on the show today. So I don't know if you want to talk about how we met or not, just briefly. Sure. Actually, I want to jump right into that. So, you know, being in Virginia, obviously God has linked me with some amazing leaders there. Obviously, right in the Timberville, Harrisonburg area, I got to meet several leaders on this last trip. Of course, you were one of them. And I do remember you walking into the room and you were in that back corner and it was like God spoke to me and you were highlighted. And the amazing part about that is as the Lord started to speak to me about you and I started to see the anointing on your life and God's call on you, which God's calling, his gifts and his callings are without repentance. God hasn't changed his mind. And that gift, you are a gift to the body. And little do you know, well, I think you do know.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Let me just not say that. But I think that we have ideas and insights and perspectives into things that God puts into our hearts and minds concerning the call of God. But that was very evident and clear to me in that you are somebody that is, God is placed strategically. That is, you're making a way. You are opening things up for the Lord to come and establish His intention and purpose in regions. And it won't just be in Charlottesville. It'll be in other places too, but obviously Charlottesville. But one of the key things without me knowing is that I was drawn to what God was showing me about you. And the conversation
Starting point is 00:12:47 afterwards is really the amazing thing. And this is where we're, you know, here you are in downtown Charlottesville today, rightfully so. You said a lot of the presidential debate brought into, you know, Charlottesville was brought into question several times. No other place in the nation. Of course, we know the presidential debates are for the United States. This slant or this conversation has got nothing to do with politics other than to just state some of the facts that Charlottesville was brought up in conversation. And, you know, the enemy had a plan, but God's plan is greater.
Starting point is 00:13:27 He never authored any of the catastrophes that have happened in the past, but certainly God is able to take things, turn them out for his good. But I go back without losing my train of thought on how we met. And one of the most amazing things is because a gentleman from our church, George, who came with us on that trip, who you remember, he was there and the entire time, because I remember going to pray for somebody in the hospital in Charlottesville. So we drove from Harrisonburg to Charlottesville, went to the hospital to pray for somebody there. And I remember on the drive in, it was just like this massive, like God was just highlighting Charlottesville of all places to me for that entire trip. And I left Charlottesville and I kept on saying, George, there's something about Charlottesville,
Starting point is 00:14:20 there's something about Charlottesville. And then obviously I was ministering every night and that's when I encountered you. And you were the first person after five days of just meditating and trying to find the mind and will of the Father for Charlottesville on the inside of me. You were the first person in conversation after the Lord had released me to give you that word when we were talking that mentioned the word Charlottesville. So I believe that God highlighted you to talk about you, but there is also equally a greater purpose and God is a kingdom connector. And that's what we're doing here, kingdom connections. And so I'm really thrilled, you know, when you started, you hadn't even done one single live stream at that moment in time. And I really felt the presence of the Lord on that, you know, and I think at some point today, during this live stream,
Starting point is 00:15:21 I may say it a couple of times, and you know, I want to take advantage of the fact that the Lord is speaking. God is preparing Charlottesville for something. And let me just go ahead and say this. You know, it's not so much that all of a sudden now Charlottesville's on God's mind. I believe that in times and seasons, God's always had Charlottesville on his mind. He's had Lafayette, Louisiana on his mind. I believe that in times and seasons, God's always had Charlottesville on his mind. He's had Lafayette, Louisiana on his mind. Right here where I live, he's got a plan and a purpose. But I believe it is more according to the revelation of the saints rising up and understanding that God in the heavens is sitting on the throne. Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He sent the Holy Spirit to us on the day of Pentecost that has ever been present within and upon in the earth. He is omnipresent, omniscient. He's everywhere at one time, but he's at work in me. He's at work in you. He's at work everywhere. But the big but is Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father, and he has done everything that needed to be done to fulfill the will of the Father in the earth
Starting point is 00:16:34 to give, put us back into the seat of authority in the earth. And what I'm trying to say is for a season such as this, the awakening of the saints is coming to understand that full authority that we have been given as believers. We're not waiting on God. God is waiting on us and the church will arise. And with one voice, we are going to inherit the earth. We're going to kick some devil butt, take down some names. We're going to plunder hell and populate heaven. And there is no force of darkness that will get in the way of the intention of God and for the believer who knows their God. So I don't want to get into like preach mode, but I'm sort of getting into that. This was all part of the eruption of this divine
Starting point is 00:17:28 connection of the kingdom that you and I are engaging in right now. I mean, it's the unraveling of that. And I believe with all of my heart that there is something that, I mean, you know, whatever part it is, I know that us as Destiny Revival Ministries here in Lafayette, Louisiana, God that understands and is listening to the voice of the Spirit and is unraveling everything as you take one step of faith into the other. Which, before I hand over to you to kind of, you know, speak into some of the things that I've already mentioned, I want to go ahead and throw this in here. For anybody that's watching by way of live stream, you might be watching this in two weeks from now. You could be watching right now. And you might be living in that geographic region.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Maybe you don't live in that geographic region. is going to stir in your spirit the desire to be a part of something that the Lord is birthing right now in what is happening and unraveling right now. So I want to urge you not to pay lip service. Don't just sit on this call and be blessed and be encouraged and go, amen, brother, because everything that I'm saying does apply to you, no matter what region you're coming from. So I want you to be super excited about it. No problem. But you've got to take it to the next bit of the puzzle. The next piece of the puzzle is how do I activate this? And I believe one of the greatest ways you can activate your faith, and this is not what this call is about, ladies and gentlemen, but I will tell you this, become a part of, in some way, whether it's through service or sowing a seed into this ministry, White Mountain
Starting point is 00:19:37 Ministries, that the Lord has called. If you're from Virginia, you should be getting on board with this. Show God with your substance that you fully expect a move of God in Rutgersville, a move of God in Timberville, a move of God in Charlottesville, a move of God right in your region. In other words, you've got to become invested in what God's wanting to do. And I'll tell you, this is a great opportunity, good soil for you. And I'm just throwing that plug in because I feel stirred in. People need to. The army must mobilize, but the army must be invested. There's a cost, and we've all got to go in fully in order to advance the kingdom of God.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So I'm super fired up, And this happens to be a small part of the deal because that helps us do what God's called us to do. And in this case, you guys, White Mountain Ministries right there in Charlottesville, I mean, Charlottesville in Virginia. I was about to say Louisiana, but that's Lafayette. That's where I'm at. Anyway, so go ahead. Look, let me hand the floor back over to you, and then we can just go back and forth and play a game of tennis. But as you can tell, I'm fired up. Yes, I would not expect anything less out of you, my brother, and thank you for the kind words. And so you talked about a couple of interesting things
Starting point is 00:21:01 there. One thing that you said that I say all the time, we have to stop waiting on God because God is waiting on us. Maybe you can touch base on that a little more. A lot of what we're going to discuss now is what it actually looks like to be, we say to be used by God. I don't really like to use that word, use in that manner in the sense that he's working through us. Because sometimes you hear use, you think he's taking advantage or manipulating, like he's working through us. We are vessels for him. It's not arrogant. Like you can either see yourself as separate from God, or you can see yourself as one with his spirit. And it's not arrogant to say that you are one with Jesus Christ because it's all over the Bible. And it's
Starting point is 00:21:45 almost a false humility to say, you know, to say that we aren't. And a lot of people use as an, as an excuse to, to not want God to really work through you, but he will work through us. And once this is the way he created to work through us in so many powerful ways, the night that you and I met, that was not Mark Moavis. That was God in you that highlighted me to you and he spoke through you. So if maybe you can talk a little bit about maybe what it looks like for you when God highlights someone and what it just means in general to be used by God. Okay, perfect. So I'm going to back it up and then I'm going to get to that because you asked me a couple of things before that until you got to that part, which, so there's two things.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Number one, it was this, God's not waiting on us. We're not waiting on God, God's waiting on us. That was the one, the first one, and then we'll merge into what you said next. So it's important. I think one of the most important things, and this is not my opinion, I really believe with all of my heart is that we have a theological blindness. And I believe the veil of that blindness is from a religious spirit that has been set into the church. And the veil of blindness in that we're unable, according to the word, to rightly divide the word of truth.
Starting point is 00:23:22 The Bible says in Paul speaking to Timothy, he says, rightly, you know, rightly divide the word of truth. The Bible says in Paul speaking to Timothy, he says, rightly, you know, rightly divide the word of truth. Study to show yourself approved. You know, most people that think when they hear the word study is that they have got to become theological fat heads. And I usually like to say this, God is not looking for theologically fat heads. He's looking for spirit-led fat hearts. He's looking for people who are going to obey his bidding. You know, when we step on over into eternity, we're going to hear the words, well done thou good and faithful servant, enter ye into the joy of the Lord. Those who obeyed the voice of God and did whatever he asked them to do.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Anything short of that is doing something in the arm of the flesh. What God doesn't initiate, he's not obliged to bless. And so we've got to follow the voice of the Spirit. But more to that, we're not, God's not waiting, we're not waiting on God, is we have to understand the cross was the dividing line that changed everything. The Lord says prior to the cross, before Jesus said it is finished, realize this, Jesus said those famous words which echo into eternity and now and are still reverberating. In other words, the blood of Jesus that was shed for
Starting point is 00:24:46 the redemption of humanity still speaks into 2024 with as much power to save as it was in day one. But when he said it is finished, the rules of engagement changed. Now the Bible says, I am the Lord your God, I change not. No, he didn't change in any way, shape or form. He just positioned us differently. The father positioned us in himself differently because Jesus undid what the first Adam lost for us. So we are effectively, we've been put back into the garden, so to speak, just like, although we know we're not living in the garden, we still live in a fallen world. We see the effects of the fall of man still at work in the earth. But for those who are in Christ, we engage in this world differently. So in other words, Adam, who was given jurisdiction in the earth, go out and multiply.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Everything in the earth is yours, Adam. You have been given dominion over the birds of the air, over everything that creeps, over the trees, the flowers, the plants. You are, Adam, you are, you have ownership of this thing called the earth. Jesus brought us back into that divine ownership. And God is, I liked what you said earlier about being used by God. And we're going to transition into the rest of what you were saying just in a few seconds. But rightfully so. God is not using us like, hey, there's something I can use. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:28 God is, rather, we are co-laboring with God. He is co-laboring with us and through us, and we are allowing the Father to manifest His will in the earth, just like the ministry of Jesus. Jesus did nothing outside of what he first saw his father do. Whatever his father did, he did. If his father didn't do, he didn't do. So really, Jesus is the most, is 100%, he is the most accurate representation and revelation of who God is. Because he did only what the Father did. He was an ambassador of his Father, not to fulfill his will, but to fulfill the purpose and plan of the Father. And he went and sat at the right hand of the
Starting point is 00:27:19 Father, having given us all authority. Behold, I've given you all authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy. That same authority, Romans 8 says that we have been given the same authority, that the same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells on the inside of us. We have been endued with that same power. What is that all telling us? That's telling us we have been given the keys of the kingdom. We have been given the keys of God's power to be the executors of the will of God in the earth. It's God left the responsibility of taking dominion in the earth to the body of Christ. We are it. We are the hands and feet of Jesus. We are the expression of God. We are the revelation of the Father in the earth,
Starting point is 00:28:14 just like Jesus was. He's our big brother. He said, listen, what I'm doing, you're going to do. And so, which brings me to the next point is that we find ourselves with a church that is spiritually in a position where by perception we are spiritual, but it is a dead work and it is a travesty. It breaks my heart because I don't want the church to be veiled by the cloak of religion. And what veil do you think I'm talking about? The fact that subtly and just subtly that remember the enemy isn't coming out for the most part. Now he does manifest. Let me just add this in really quick.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I think the enemy is okay with us going to church. I think he's even in some ways maybe okay with us saying a prayer to go to heaven. But when you learn the power, the authority, the dominion that we have in Christ, it terrifies him. So he will do whatever he can to make you see that you're separate from God, to not think that, you know, to see yourself, you know, guilt, shame, condemnation, all these things. Why would God, I can see why God would use Mark Marvis, but why would God work through little old me? You know, I get that a lot. So anyways. Come on, no. And so the point there, exactly, 150%, couldn't agree with you more. Well, I could.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I can give you like a thousand likes for saying that. That was amazing. So the point being is that the veil of religion is the veil keeps us in the closet of prayer, but never brings us out into the taking of dominion in action, being the kingdom of God by using our hands and feet in the earth. So somehow, some way we engage with God, but the language that we are using, and I can tell you right now, I can sit with people and within five minutes of the way that they talk, I can tell you exactly where they are theologically. Maybe two minutes.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Exactly, two minutes. And so the big point is, make it happen, then you are praying a religious prayer. If your prayer includes always making God responsible for it, then we have a problem. God's saying, I'm not responsible. In fact, not only am I not responsible, I gave you my son to position you back into that place so that you can fulfill my will in the earth. So prayer that keeps you in a closet is a religious prayer. Mark, it's so much easier to place the blame on God than to take accountability for our own actions. And even as soon as Adam and Eve ate the tree, well, you know, Adam blamed it on the woman, the woman blamed it on the serpent, blame and shame. I mean, you know, no, no accountability right away. And that's what we do today. Come on, come on. We relinquish our, we spiritually feel good about our piousness or our, our self-righteousness, if you will.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And I don't believe anybody is intentionally doing it. And I believe that there is a deception because well-meaning, good-intentioned people are doing these things. And that's why I've got to walk in grace. I'm not sitting here with a rod smacking everybody over the head because I've got to have the grace of God. Lord, unveil their eyes so that they can see what is available to them. And that is why I believe God is bringing the supernatural awakening because the saints are rising up to the truth. We are the responsible party. Remember, the church that Jesus left, when Jesus went and sat at the right hand of the Father,
Starting point is 00:32:44 he left something in the earth called the church. And that church is you and me. And the church is made up of the kingdom of God. Who do you think manifests the kingdom of God in the earth? The church manifests the kingdom of God in the earth. Jesus didn't say, I will build my kingdom and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. He said, I will build my kingdom and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. He said, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. So the church is the medium or the tool through which the kingdom operates in the earth. And the earth is awakening to our God-given delegated authority. And I believe we've seen all these, the movement revivals of
Starting point is 00:33:27 healing, revivals of teaching, revivals of the evangelist, revivals of outpourings of teaching and the apostolic and the prophetic. Now, coupled together, that doesn't mean any of those go away, but including all of that is the saints awakening to righteousness and the identity that God has called them to. Now, that was the first portion of your conversation. The second part of the conversation, because we want to keep on track here, and I don't want to, I'll segue back over to you in a second. You were saying, what does it look like to be a co-laborer? And that was the verbiage of, we don't like to say God, we're being used by God. And I agree with you. We're not being used, we're co-laboring with him. I'm his son, you're his son. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:34:16 when I say son, please put a forward slash there and add daughter there, because it's the plurality of sexes. We're not only putting males into the equation here. This is very much not like that. In fact, you've seen that Nate has had a couple of women on this place already. God's already given him the green light to start bringing on these powerful women of God onto the show. And I believe that that is just as much a part of God's manifested intention and purpose for such a time as this, but to be used by God and how somebody is highlighted. We've got to start somewhere. I know that this is going to sound super cliche, but I'm going to go ahead and use the expression anyway. You've heard,
Starting point is 00:35:03 you don't have to be great to start, you know, but you have to start to be great. You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great. In other words, people need to begin to lean in to the voice of the Spirit of God so that He can begin to speak through them, and they must begin to be dominated by the life of faith and not the life of fear. Most people, in terms of God co-laboring with them, are very afraid to step out because of the fear of man. Guess what? I miss it. You're going to miss it,
Starting point is 00:35:47 but you've got to get over. You've got to feed your spirit man more than you are dictated to by your flesh, which is causing you to come into the place of fear. The enemy just has to say one thing in the area of your mind, and you're yielding to every thought that you should be bringing captive to the obedience of Christ. And so if you will feed your spirit more than you feed your flesh and allow the enemy to play in the battlefield of your mind, then you can step out in faith. And it's okay if you're nervous, you've got to step out. Now, the more you do, the more God will expand your capacity. He will give you more details.
Starting point is 00:36:32 He'll give you wisdom on how to give a word and how to operate. And it's not just about words. It's about words of knowledge. It's about healing. It's about everything that's available to us. Just giving people an encounter with Jesus and showing them that He loves them. Amen. Exactly. And how will they know unless we tell? He's in honor with Jesus and showing them that he loves them. Amen. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And how will they know unless we tell? This is the whole point. The thing is, is that, you know, some people, again, this might be a stretch, but like, let me, I will take your hand. Let me introduce you to Jesus because he lives in me. Yes. Right. A hundred percent. Yes. Right. 100%. But, you know, everything that you're talking about, it's not, and please, I just want to make sure that while we're on this live stream, that it's very clear. I am not against intercession and prayer in your closet. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah, it's very important. I am saying that if you are interceding in your prayer closet and you are not allowing the spirit of God inside of you to also get you to go, remember two-thirds of the name of God is go, G-O-D, G-O is the first two-thirds. So there's got to be a going into the earth and being the hands and feet of Jesus. True prayer and intercession, I believe, will bring such a burden for the will of the Father to be made manifest to us that it compels us to go. I believe that intercession, the overflow of intercession,
Starting point is 00:37:58 will bring you into the highways and the byways to manifest the plan and purpose of God. Whether you're called to be an evangelist or a prophet or whatever it is, in either which way, no matter which call you have, we're all called to be reconcilers of men to the Father regardless. Can you talk about what it looks like when God, you know, like, I know it's evolved over the years, but what does it look like when God highlights someone to you? Because a lot of people say, well, I can't hear the voice of God. How do I hear?
Starting point is 00:38:30 How does he speak to Mark? What does that look like when he highlights someone? You know, I think this is such a brilliant conversation. And that's what I wanted this call to be, not a, like, I'm preaching at you and we're getting a sermonized thing here. I've got my Bible and turn with, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I'm saying people watching want to engage with something authentic in conversation form, and this is what it's all about. There will be some watching who have never heard this before ever, by the way. Right. Well, praise God. If you've never heard anything like this before, then praise God.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You're getting it right the first time. And I would say go ahead and rewind and watch it from the beginning. So the point is, I think, you know, Nate, and this has got to do everything with the highlighting topic that you brought up. I think that we overcomplicate it. I think people are, not everybody, some people just know what the differences are between a vision or an impression or the Holy Spirit for me always, by majority of time, is always speaking in a still, small voice. But I think where we overcomplicate it is, God, you can use me, but, Lord, I'm having a difficult time hearing you,
Starting point is 00:40:02 and you have a difficult time hearing him because you've set the limits on how God gets to speak to you because your expectation of God's guidance to be led by the Spirit so he can use you is, Lord, if a goldfish jumps out of the fishbowl and stings the star-spangled banner, I will definitely know you're speaking to me to tell that person that you love them or to tell that person that they need healing.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I saw, do you have any problems in your lower right back? And it's a complete stranger and all of that. I think we overcomplicate it is because we're waiting for this thing somewhere mysteriously and God can do whatever he wants to, but don't limit him. He's so simple. You know, it's as simple as just you are, you have, and let me just put it this way. You have the power of God to do the will of the father in the earth. As you go out in your day, the Holy Spirit is highlighting. So you actually start out your day, the Holy Spirit is highlighting. So you actually start out your day, say, Father, I thank you today in the name of Jesus. Let me be as sensitive as
Starting point is 00:41:11 Jesus was. Maybe there's going to be a hundred things going on in my life that I'm going to feel crushed by everything, just like Jesus was with the woman with the issue of blood. Everybody was, the crowd was thronging him. The NRV translation says that he almost was crushed by all of the people. And Jesus still said, who touched me? What do you mean who touched you? So Father, I thank you that we are sensitive in all of the craziness of whatever's been throwing and bombarded us in life. But we have the sensitivity of Jesus that we can, in the middle of all of that, feel that different kind of touch. And sometimes it's as easy as suddenly a thought will come to you. It's not your thought. The devil's certainly not stopping you in the middle of your day to say,
Starting point is 00:41:58 hey, you see that person with the red sweater? I want you to go and pray for them. They need to know my love, and I want to heal them today. The devil's not telling you to go and pray for them. They need to know my love and I want to heal them today. The devil's not telling you to go get somebody healed. And if it was never something you were thinking, then stop, capture that. We've got to become sensitive and conscious of the voice of the Holy Spirit, so much so that God can speak to us. And whenever he does, he knows that he has our attention and we respond and float with him as whenever he speaks, for instance, and this is a great example, uh, to the point where you're in a building, you're preaching. I was there with Nate. I never met him. And for whatever reason, like I can't, like I'm preaching and I'm in the middle of my sermon or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm in the middle of whatever the Lord was having me speak about. At the same time, simultaneously, this guy is not getting out of my head. He's in the corner there. And God will do that enough times till I go, okay, God's got something for this guy for me to share. And so I know it's just something that's replaying there and it's not going away. And I know the voice of God enough to go, okay, Lord, you're speaking to me about this person. And I, quite honestly, guess what? Open your mouth and God will fill it.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I don't sit there when I prophesied over Nate, for instance, that night, I don't sit there and go, well, okay, God, do you want me to speak to him? What do you want me to tell him? I'm like, okay, God, you want to speak to him. And I will look at Nate, which I did that night. And I said, hey, brother, stand up. The Lord's got a word for you. And boom, as I open my mouth, God begins to flow through it. And for me, I speak faster than what I can think. So it's just like a river that comes out. It's just nonstop. And I'm speaking the mind of the Lord.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And you know, the gifts are without repentance, but what you're able to do in that moment, that takes time, relationship, experience, and history with God. That doesn't just happen overnight. Correct. Correct. And so to encourage everybody here that you've got to start out in the small. God says, if you're faithful with the little, I'll make you ruler over much. It is a gift. It is a faith muscle. All right? And so the more you exercise that gift, God sharpens it, and He sharpens it, and He sharpens it, and He sharpens it, and you become seasoned in that gift.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But if you want to be used by the Lord, start today. If you're watching this right now, start today, and God is going to take you great places with Him. I can just tell you that right now. So, I mean, I am uber excited about this conversation, actually. I think this is very, very empowering for the body and anybody watching by way of live stream right now. Amen. Hey, and you know, the thing is, this is a 2.30 on a Tuesday afternoon, and what we've seen so far is 99% of the people watching the show are not watching it live, but we do appreciate it. If you are watching it live and appear in a few minutes, for those that are on watching it with us, we're going to probably pray for some people. Maybe Mark will speak into some people's lives. So look, you don't have to be watching the show live because most of
Starting point is 00:45:23 you will not to share this. So if you're watching the show, whenever that is, you're being blessed by this, share it. Because we're not a platform with 5 million viewers, but the more people that share this, the more people that have an opportunity to watch this and be blessed by what we're bringing, what Mark's bringing on the show today. So look, you know, you're a fun guy and I've seen you minister and you have a lot of fun when you're sharing the gospel. And look, the kingdom is serious business, but this is fun. God has a sense of humor. And you know, I encourage people, if our walk, if your walk with the Lord is not fun, if it's not exhilarating, if you don't wake up excited to share the gospel, maybe you can just touch base on that, Mark, because I know that your walk with the Lord is fun.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Well, amen. Look, you know, that's the thing. We have this thing called the joy of our salvation. It's joy, unspeakable, and full of glory. You know, many Christians, religion has got them so backed up, they look like they're baptized in lemon juice. You know, they're sour, they look really sour. They're miserable. And like, why does anybody that's in the world want to partake of that? I mean, like, they're already miserable.
Starting point is 00:46:56 They look at you and sometimes religion will make you look even more miserable than them. They don't want what you have. And I'm not saying that for anybody watching here, but I'm just trying to say they don't want religion. They want the real thing. And so because he's given us the joy of our salvation, I'll tell you what, one of the ways to stay free is to always keep in, one of the ways to have fun in the kingdom is to walk in the spirit of humility because walking in the spirit of humility will keep you in a place where joy can flow. Like how does that even equate to anything? How can you even say that walking in humility? Well, because humility keeps you in a
Starting point is 00:47:32 place of, it's not by might nor by power, but by the Spirit. So in other words, I am never sitting in a relationship with God where I get to take credit for anything. I get to be the vessel through which the anointing flows. The anointing does the work. It's not mine, it's His. And so I'm having fun watching Him do what He knows how to do best. And secondly, I rest in God. I rest in God in this sense that it's not my job. I can't, listen, I don't have a lick of personally, myself. I don't have a personal, I don't have the ability to raise anybody from the dead in my own strength. I don't have the power to do that, but God's power working in me and through me can do all of that. So when I begin to make sure that I'm always saying that Paul said to Timothy, you have this treasure, 2 Corinthians
Starting point is 00:48:33 4 verse 7, you have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellence of the power is of me, is not from me, but it is of God. So that treasure is from God on the inside of you. And when you walk in the place of humility, the treasure can come out of you. And I'm telling you right now, that's one thing I decided. I am never going to be, and humility, not having the fear of man. So in other words, people's opinions about you don't really matter. And by the way, let me just go ahead and tell you, if you're waiting on God and you're just listening to the opinions of men, let me tell you right now, then you're just never going to
Starting point is 00:49:14 get to where God calls you to be. You may never even get started. You get criticized when you're nobody, you get criticized when you're somebody, just realize you're going to get criticized anyway. So you might as well join the party, rest in God, walk in the spirit of humility, don't have the fear of man and worry about what people think so that the anointing continues to flow so that you're always fresh. Sometimes as believers, when we lose that, we lose joy because we become involved in this ritualistic relationship with God where all of the life has been sucked out of us instead of engaging in a relationship where he gets all the credit so that we can have fun. Let me tell you right now, people sometimes, I know this sounds really terrible, sometimes people think that I'm not very spiritual.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I pray. I have my spiritual disciplines. I have all of those things. Now, please understand, I'm bringing this into context. But I will tell you, I have so much fun. People think, well, you know, people's expectation is, oh, you're a man of God. You should be floating and levitating. But you're not. You're, you know. and I'm not reducing anything.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I'm not bringing anything down. I'm trying to say, no, I will stay in the place of rest, and I'm not going to allow religion to suck the joy of being somebody that communicates the kingdom of God in the earth. I'm telling you right now, Jesus was, I believe with all of my heart, somebody so awesome and cool to hang around with. I mean, he always had a smile. He administered love. He was somebody that you could have a great time with. And I'm not talking about doing things in the flesh, but just being able to have a, where we can laugh uncontrollably. And, you know, there's all of that
Starting point is 00:51:06 going. God wants you in the ministry, but he doesn't want you to kill yourself in the ministry, meaning where you, where ministry has taken the precedence and the relationship of God has come out of the equation, because that's the last that will steal joy from you. Time's flying. I knew it would. It's going by so fast. But hey, you know, you have fun with the Lord. Can you just, obviously you don't know I'm going to ask you this, but can you just share a fun God testimony, something you've seen the Lord do, just whatever he puts on your heart? Well, I have one which I always like to share. It's a little while back. I mean, of course, I've got some more recent things that I can talk about, but I find the humor in this in how fun God is and how he works with us.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And it's talking about how this co-laboring occurs. It was probably closer to, you know, in between the 2000, 2010 time. And I was a lot younger than what I am now. And I'm very, very young. So I was very, very young back then. Yeah, I see that completely brown and black beard. You were born that way. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:11 No, this, I actually dyed gray so that people think that. That's what I do too. I can't believe you do that. Yeah, well, so that's why we love each other. See what I'm talking about? You can have fun. This is all the kingdom. We're having fun right now. So I remember I was invited. I wasn't even married at the time, by the way. Yeah, so it was prior 2005. I was invited to pray for a couple who was having
Starting point is 00:52:37 catastrophe in their marriage, like a single guy. I was the guy called in to help a married couple. And I'm thinking, God, I really am disqualified. And the Lord kind of said, well, listen, don't you disqualify. My anointing is going to work in their marriage the same way as anybody else would be able to give them proper wise, sound counsel. So I went and prayed for them. And as I'm about to walk out of this house, the Lord said, I know you prayed for them for their marriage, but that's not why I sent you here. There's somebody else that I need you to pray for their body. And I said, is there anybody else that I need to pray for here?
Starting point is 00:53:10 So as I'm about to go, they said, well, yeah, our little daughter needs prayer. You know, one of her legs is, her right leg is, it's a club foot. So, you know, she had a straight foot on the left-hand side. The right foot was faced in. And I'm going to try to summarize this as quickly as possible. She needed prayer. And I'm thinking, oh, my God. To me, in the flesh, in my mind, I'm going, whoa, I'm in trouble now.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I can't heal this girl. I can't heal her. Now, obviously, the answer is, yeah, you're right. I can't heal her, but God can, right? But there is a flesh thing going on. And I'm going, okay, well, let's just sit her down, measure her legs out. So we sat her down. We measured her legs out.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And one was, you know, approximately an inch and a half, maybe two inches, but so that we're not evangelistical, let's go to an inch and a half. And we prayed for her. And the leg immediately grew, but the one leg still stayed in. And I'm like, God, why would you cause a leg to grow and not let the foot go straight too? I'm like, that's really weird. So I knew I was going to be out of town in two weeks from that date. And I said to the couple, I said, you know what? God won't begin something without finishing. So she is healed. You will see within two weeks that leg will be completely gone.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And I'm just being completely vulnerable on this live stream. I told her two weeks that leg will be completely gone. And I'm just being completely vulnerable on this live stream. I told her two weeks because I knew within two weeks I would be out of town and I would have escaped with my life. So humorous to me because three days later at the church service, this young girl comes running to me. It happened so fast because I turned around, I see this young human being running at me and I look at the person. It's this young girl. Her leg is completely straightened. She's running perfectly normal. The reality is the very next morning when she woke up out of bed, the next night after I prayed for her, she ran into a room, didn't even know she was completely healed. When she ran to the room, the mother was the one that noticed the leg had completely grown together. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:10 God has a sense of humor. It was humorous to me. God worked with me even in a moment where I was, I proclaimed it by faith, but in the back of my head, I never allowed that lack of faith to come out. But the point of the matter is, is that God, he and I had a little bit of a moment of understanding of how much it all is contingent and resting upon him. And keeping positioned in that place causes us to rest and allows joy to flow. So good. So do we have anybody for pray for? I think we're right. We're right on the day we have about five minutes left so look guys if you're watching live um i can see my facebook feed here and um you know if if mark will uh get a word maybe if somebody needs healing they just
Starting point is 00:55:59 need prayer uh we'll see what the lord does here for about the next five minutes. If you're watching, just comment, Mel, what's up, my brother? I probably have not done maybe an amazing job of talking to the viewers today, so we do thank you guys for watching and listening. Does anybody have a prayer request? I know that people are watching. Does anybody have a prayer request? Right. And I also know that, Mark, I know that you have a gift that, you know, even if the Lord highlights somebody to you right now that's on the call, even if they're not asking for it, see if the Lord gives you a word of knowledge or something for somebody. On my end, from my screen, I know many people in this call. There is one that I cannot remember.
Starting point is 00:56:49 The name seems familiar, Barbie Yancey. So Barbie Yancey, I'm looking at you right now. I see a very small icon. I cannot even see your face clearly, but I see a little, what seems to be like a little dog next to you in your profile picture. On my side, you're literally less than, I mean, you're about four times smaller than a dime. So I just see Barbie Yancy, the small icon with the dog. And let me just speak to you, Barbie. I see the hand of the Lord on you. And as I'm looking at you right now, I see God is telling me to tell you, you've gone around the mountain and you've come. And I don't see this that you're going around the mountain, going around the mountain.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Although you have been through some of those cycles, this is not about that. I believe the Lord is saying the cycle is completed and get ready because God is propelling you into this new season. And God says in order to activate this new season, God says, I am restoring the years that the enemy has robbed and stolen from you. And God says, move forward. But the key for you, Barbie, is God says, don't look back. Not that you're going to turn into a pillar of salt if you do, but there will be the enemy will seek to slow you down in looking back. God says, I'm paving the way. The green light is ahead of you. The power to move forward is in your future. And my plan and my purpose for you is still yes and amen. And in your moving forward,
Starting point is 00:58:25 God says, I'm going to unravel and open the doors, unlock the things that need to be unlocked. And God says, the things which seem impossible are about to shift and come to pass. So there's transition coming for you, but move forward. The Lord says, move forward. And as you do, all of the pieces are going to come into place. But move forward and don't look back, says the Spirit of the Lord. That's for you, Bobby. Hey, I got one for you. So a friend of mine is Mel Carozza.
Starting point is 00:58:56 He asked to pray for his uncle who has cancer. So maybe you can pray for him. See if the Lord speaks something to you on Mel, because I know that. Hallelujah. Cool. What is your uncle's name, Mel? If you can type that out there real quick, unless you want to keep that anonymous, that's fine too. We'll give him a second.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Let's just go ahead. For the sake of time. Well, for the sake of time, let me dive right into it. So we're going to stand in agreement. Everybody in this call watching right now, Father, in the name of Jesus, I bring up Mel's uncle before you. I thank you, Lord Jesus, that cancer is not of you. It's not of your will.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It was never, there was no intention. None of it came from you. And Father, in the name of Jesus, just the simple prayer of faith that heals the sick in this, that Jesus, you cursed the fig tree and it died. And we speak to that cancer in Mel's uncle right now, Lord Nate and I and everybody watching, in the name of Jesus, we tell that cancer to shrivel up and die, just like you cursed the fig tree, Jesus, that that cancer dies and no longer has any part or place in that man's body. Father, we speak a supernatural release of your life-giving
Starting point is 01:00:05 spirit that eradicates every trace of cancer in his muscle, in his tissues, in his organs, in his bloodstream. Every part of that, we tell cancer to go. You foul spirit of infirmity, loose him right now in the name of Jesus. We speak forth the healing power of God. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Father, I just thank you for Mel. I thank you, Father, that you are Lord, that there is a divine orchestration for him and his family, his immediate family in the name of Jesus, that all things are going to line up for Mel and his family, his immediate family, in the name of Jesus, that all things are going to line up for Mel and his family in the name of Jesus. As I'm praying for you, Mel, I'm just seeing the hand of the Lord. I see the hand of the Lord covering in the form of a covering.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And God says, my hand is upon you and I'm covering you. In other words, when God's hand is covering you, which means simply this, that God is actually intervening for you and unraveling things. So the Lord says, son, because my hand is upon you, rest in me and watch and see what I'm going to do for you in your family. But know this, my divine hand is there and God says, no harm shall come near your family in the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus, rest in the Lord and everything's going to come to pass. Hey Mark, Mel said he's breaking out in a sweat. So look, hey Mark, this is really a little, no, you've been amazing. It's like the time, like we're up. So they're going to give me a couple of extra minutes, but look, so I have
Starting point is 01:01:52 one more on here. I see Michelle Kibler, that's actually my sister-in-law is watching. See if the Lord speaks something to you for Michelle, and then we're going to go. Well, hallelujah. Well, thank you, Father. Thank you, Michelle Kibler. Hallelujah. Father, thank you for Michelle Kibler right now in the name of Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Michelle Kibler, where are you? All right. I can't see her on my side, but that's fine. Hallelujah. Father, I just thank you for Michelle Kibler right now, Lord Jesus. I thank you that there is a spirit, a great spirit of hunger. Lord, I thank you, Lord, that you are bringing forth
Starting point is 01:02:34 your gifts, plans, and purposes from her life also. Father, I thank you, Lord Jesus, that there is such a spirit that is awakened to you. And I just want to give you one simple word of encouragement that I feel the Lord is saying, God says to you, don't fear because I am working, I am working in bringing the others around into the same place where you are, God says, I am doing the changing of hearts. And God says, so I am working on the hearts.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And I think this is like directly for your family. That God says, and it could be, I don't know your spouse. I don't know any of that. But the Lord says, I'm going to do a radical. Somebody in your family is about to have a radical turnaround, a radical turnaround beyond recognition. So I released that word. So the Lord says, just understand I'm working on their hearts and I'm going to bring a divine turnaround. And God says in this season, do one thing, rejoice for there is light on the other side of the
Starting point is 01:03:42 tunnel. And as you rejoice, you let me do what I need to do for you. You're giving me permission to work and you're positioning me to be that authority through you to do that work. It's not by your own strength. I'm going to do it, says the spirit of the Lord. Amen. Thank you, brother. Hey, you've been amazing. Appreciate you. I'm sorry that we're not going to be able to get to more people requesting the prayer, but we bless you guys. We speak healing over your bodies right now in the name of Jesus. And look, so we're going to go, but anything that you have for the show or for Charlottesville on the way out? I want to say this. I am deeply invested in Charlottesville. So if you're from Charlottesville over there, you know, I am obviously super excited to be on the show.
Starting point is 01:04:30 God has highlighted me just the way he highlighted Nate. We're all here because of the divine providence of the Holy Spirit in the connection and also for Charlottesville because that was the next part of the puzzle. So I have it on my heart that I'm going to come out there. If you want to be a part of something that's big that the Lord is wanting to unravel, then let's do that together. In the meantime, be in prayer as to what God is wanting to do, but not just prayer. Also, walk out by the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit, what He's showing you to do. Remember, two-thirds of the name of God is go. So pray and go, and we will keep in touch and communication. Thank you for having me on your show. Super blessed to be here. Really honored.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Mark, I love you, brother. Thank you for bringing it as I knew you would. And hey, just want to thank everybody for listening. Thank you for watching. Thank you for praying for us. Next week, we are going to have a group of young college students who are helping lead a revival in the Shenandoah Valley. It's going to be a very unique show and I'm very excited. And so bless you guys. Have a great week. Amen.

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