The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Mayor Wade & Chief Kochis Hosting Q&A On 9/16; Pick 3 City Spots For Designated Homeless Tent City

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good Tuesday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville Show. We enjoy connecting with you guys on the I Love Seville Network. A lot to cover on the program. On Tuesday, a question and answer session with Chief Kachis, police chief cautious, and Mayor Juan Diego Wade. That will be Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I will be in attendance for that Q&A. That Q&A organized in large part because of the fallout of the council meeting a week ago and how it was covered in particular on this program and through this platform. We'll talk Mike Kachis and Juan Diego Wade in the question and answer session that will happen one week from today on the downtown mall. I will be in attendance. my questions will be very pointed toward Juan Diego Wade and I would encourage anyone that's in attendance at this Q&A to ask extremely pointed questions as well
Starting point is 00:01:07 of our mayor, Juan Wade. A lot we're going to cover on the program including a conversation topic for you, the viewer, and listener. Let's humor the Blue Ridge Area Coalition of the Homeless. Let's humor Judah, the Haven and let's humor Judah. Is it Patcham?
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah. Patcham? Potchum. Yeah, I mean either way. What's the acronym Pacham stand for? Do you know? I can find it. Let's humor these organizations. They want three designated homeless camping sites in the city of Charlottesville.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Let's call them three tent cities. I like the word tent town. Three tent towns because of the alliteration. You ready? Yeah. it's people and congregations engaged in ministry people and congregations engaged in ministry pacham so pacham the haven and the blue ridge area coalition for the homeless want the city of charlesville to handpick three designated areas that can be tent towns and they want the city of charlesville's
Starting point is 00:02:16 taxpayers to cover the cost of resources for these three tent towns including porter potty cleaning services, potentially tents provided. I'm going to ask you the viewer and listener to help me figure out where those three tent towns should go. I had the conversation on the downtown mall today with an extremely heavy hitter in the 8 a.m. hour. And this international real estate magnet, he highlighted the need for these three tent towns and why it would make a good stopgap
Starting point is 00:02:57 until the low barrier shelter was a reality. This international, well-traveled, multi-lingual real estate magnet even came up with an idea of where one of the tent towns should go. We'll talk about that on today's program. We'll talk about this. How do you feel about this if you're Charlottesville Public School parents? Metal detectors at Alamara County Public Schools, Judah. Almoreal County Public Schools, metal detectors.
Starting point is 00:03:35 All you have to do is walk through them. What's the big deal? But no metal detectors at Charlottesville Public Schools. It's now official. We'll pick that apart like Thanksgiving Turkey today on the I Love Seville Show. The University of Virginia Show of Good Faith. Yeah. Considering leasing and then selling oak lawn to city schools. Not just selling Oakland to city schools, but for a nominal fee. Dr. Superintendent Dr. Royale Gurley on the record
Starting point is 00:04:06 saying, goodness gracious, we might have a huge opportunity right here. We'll highlight Oak Lawn in Fifeville, the historic home at 501 9th Street Southwest, built an 8th,000. 1822 for Merchant and Virginia House of Delegates member Nimrod Bramham. That's awesome. I saw that and I was just... Are you on a two-shot? No. Are you the voice of God? I am the voice of God.
Starting point is 00:04:34 In 1982, a gentleman by the name of Nimrod, N-I-M-R-O-D, last name, Bramham, had such swagger in Geneseequa. You got to respect his parents, too. confidence in cockiness that he was able to earn a position in the Virginia House of Delegates despite a name, a birth-given name, of Nimrod Bramham. It was his house at 501 9th Street Southwest that was a design and constructed by James Dinsmore
Starting point is 00:05:07 that the University of Virginia has purchased and is now considering leasing and potentially transferring and selling to city public schools for a nominal fee. We'll unpack that story for, you, the viewer and listener on today's program. We'll talk on today's show. The article and the Daily Progress Today, did the paper of record, do we still call them the paper of record? I mean, there isn't really another one. They publish it twice a week. The CIVA weekly publishes once a week. Is the daily progress still the paper of record for the region?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Is there such thing as the paper of record anymore in this area? they have an article on their digital platform today that misrepresented what happened last week at the city council meeting basically calling the ordinance the criminalization of homelessness is misrepresentation accurately is misinformation accurate is misinformation accurate do we reflect this to a to an author that is lacking nuance experience and sophisticated in the industry, or do we chalk this up to the liberal-leaning nature of media in 2025? We'll talk about that on today's program. I want to talk Tony Elliott. Look, it's no secret, ladies and gentlemen. The University of Virginia had a 10-point lead at halftime against NC State.
Starting point is 00:06:39 A 10-point lead at halftime where they dominated the first half. Then, ladies and gentlemen, they lose the ballgame in the second half. because they were outscored 21 to 7 in the third period. Tony Elliott is god-awful in the third quarter. Why does this head coach and his coaching staff not make the halftime adjustments at intermission to win the third stanza? We have to talk about that on today's show.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I want to highlight to you, the viewer-enlissitor, our firm, our partners, what we do professionally, We have an opportunity for you, the viewer and listener, that's an entrepreneur, that you, the viewer and listener, that's a business owner, that's in the restaurant space, that's in the experiential space, to open and launch potentially a business on the downtown mall, where we could potentially partner and help you come to market in an advantageous setting that you may not have otherwise.
Starting point is 00:07:45 If this intrigues you, and we're going to vet you guys, if you're the the right candidate. It's not going to be a fly-by-night. You need a business model. You need a plan for attack. But if you're looking to open a restaurant in downtown Charlottesville in a gorgeous setting, or if you want to open a business in downtown Charlottesville in a gorgeous setting in a well-positioned location, our firm, our partners can help incentivize drive momentum behind your initiatives. DM me or call me if this is something that intrigues you. Email me. You know how to reach me. I'm everywhere here online. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast. I had a fantastic meeting today with Conan Owen, the owner of Sir Speedy of
Starting point is 00:08:30 Central Virginia. Conan Owen and I walk through our building, the Macklin building, the first floor and the second floor. As we have some signage and branding needs, he's a Darden graduate, he's a partner of this program. We walk through another building in downtown Charlottesville as I picked his brain about potential upside and opportunity with this building. Conan Owen, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia is who you call for logo needs, signage needs, direct mail needs, banner needs, sticker needs, lander needs, anything that has a logo application, Sir Speedy can do it. Sir Speedy is Central Virginia. Judah Wickower, two-shot, Judah Wickower, studio camera. Judah Wickower, you, a trusted voice in this crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:18 chaotic cornucopia of content and conversation in Charlottesville and central Virginia. Which headline intrigues you the most in why? I've got to say of all the good stuff we've got today, the misrepresentation of the ordinance and the the actors surrounding it really surprised me in the daily progress. There's, you know, between the four-plus-hour video of the meeting and all that we've talked about,
Starting point is 00:10:06 you would think that there's enough that someone writing this article would at least represent all sides of it rather than painting, you know, half of this as, you know, people just trying to criminalize the homeless and attributing that,
Starting point is 00:10:27 especially, this is the most egregious part to me, attributing that to the downtown mall businesses. The daily progress. I don't think in any way want to criminalize homelessness. They just want help in keeping their, you know, keeping their businesses afloat and
Starting point is 00:10:46 especially making the downtown mall, you know, the amazing space that it could be and once was. Judah Wickhauer on fire to start the program right away. 50-year anniversary for the downtown mall, January 1 of 2026. We're mere what? Less than 120 days away for the 50-year anniversary of one of one of those prominent and premier pedestrian passages in the free world? Yeah. The Daily Progress villainizes and stigmatizes downtown business owners and its coverage today. Explain to me why the air quotes paper of record is villainizing and stigmatizing a downtown business owners association when the Daily Proctor relies on advertising for its
Starting point is 00:11:38 business model. Furthermore, why would they villainize and stigmatize the downtown business business and the Friends of Sevo lobbying group by saying they're the drivers of criminalizing homelessness when that's so far from the actual truth. Yeah. And a natural transition to the lead headline of our program as you put the lower third on screen on Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen, on Tuesday, Michael Cotches, the George Clooney of policing, Chief Cotches, and Juan Diego Wade, the mayor of Charlottesville, a question and answer session.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Community luminaries, community leaders, heads of nonprofits, real estate owners, business owners, a select group invited to this Q&A. I will be there. I will ask extremely pointed questions of the mayor, Juan Wade, who I hope Juan Wade hears this. and someone tag, text, email, or notify Juan Wade about the commentary I'm about to offer here. His management of the meeting last week left a lot to be desired.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He did not manage the meeting from an authority or accountability standpoint. Definitely not. He allowed the folks in attendance to project hate and nastiness, negativity, and heckled remarks to anyone that spoke in a manner that was against what they emotionally felt was right. The extent of what our mayor did to manage that meaning was utter the word, please please please over and over again as opposed to managing a meeting with you have one chance of following the rules or you're out of council chambers he allowed our police chief
Starting point is 00:13:55 to be how would you characterize what happened to mike cautious i mean he was heckled but not nearly as badly as uh as grew hackenback he allowed our police chief in a public setting to lose face. Essentially made him the fall guy for the council's own, I don't know what you would call it. The whole thing, as we've said, is mystifying in its details. Council instructed the chief, the city manager, and city staff to come up with this ordinance.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And when the rubber met the road, council said, hey, where's this ordinance coming from? We want nothing to do with this. Before we get a low barrier shelter, we can't have an ordinance like this as if in April when they instructed the chief, the city attorney, the city manager, and city staff to come up with this ordinance that a low barrier shelter would somehow materialize
Starting point is 00:14:50 from April until now. When they say in the meeting on Tuesday, it's going to take more than a year to get one. Counsel, you look like a bunch of, you fill in the blank, viewers and listeners. My hope is Juan Wade on Tuesday will have questions that make him uncomfortable. I will ask some of them.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Questions like, how do you prioritize the 240 roughly homeless in our community with the businesses that fund the coffers of your budget? Questions like, how do you prioritize the business district of Charlottesville, these eight blocks, the downtown mall that are the most important, entire region, with the houseless population, many of whom are not from here anyway. I'm going to ask you, the viewer and listener, as you transition to designated camping sites with the lower third on screen, now after Tuesday's meeting, the Blue Ridge Area Coalition for the homeless, the Haven, and Patcham? Yeah. That acronym again? That acronym is the
Starting point is 00:16:08 let's see, the people and congregations engaged in ministry. And it really is a good group. I'm sure all the groups that are in on this are, you know, have good intentions. And my church has personally helped patch them. They generally cycle through a bunch of the local churches during the colder months to give unhoused individuals. a place to sleep at night. Now they want the city to say give us three sites for tent towns for the homeless. We want three city-designated tent-town sites in this small city.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And we want you the taxpayers to cover the cost for infrastructure for the tent-towns. Porter pottys, lighting, cleaning services, tents-provided, tents-provided. running water. I don't think they need tents provided. Water of some capacity. You know how they would do running water. Bottled water provided. Tent towns.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They want tent towns. I offered my opinion yesterday on creating tent towns locally. I said if you build it in the words of Kevin Costner, shoeless Joe Jackson, and one of my favorite movies, Field of Dreams,
Starting point is 00:17:34 if you build it, they will come. but it will not be the Chicago Black Sox that come from the corn maze to play a beautiful brand of baseball in some Midwestern farm. Instead, if you build it, they will come. It will be a houseless population that certainly increases in number. If the city of Charlestville tells all those in the Mid-Atlantic, you have free food, you have places to panhandle, you have tent towns that are safe and free for you to,
Starting point is 00:18:06 stay. We'll offer lighting. We'll offer water. We'll offer tents. We'll offer policing. What do we think is going to happen? Synonymous with a bowl of milk in a back alley. Synonymous with a restaurant after a Friday night dinner shift with the steak and the baked potatoes, the salads, the chicken parms being discarded behind the restaurant. What happens? Kitty cats come. and a habit is established. But let's humor the Blue Ridge Area Coalition of the Homeless. Let's humor the Haven. Let's humor Patcham.
Starting point is 00:18:53 They want three designated town towns in the city. Where should they be? I talked to a real estate magnet this morning on the downtown mall. In International, a man with many stamps on his visa, a heavy hitter locally, has property everywhere, and he said to me in a whisper, and Curtis, I'm not going to whisper for you because I love you too much, but he said to me in an accented communication, Jerry, let's give them what they want. use your show today to convey why this is a good idea
Starting point is 00:19:36 and I said to this international real estate magnet his accented voice his stamped visa won't this be a roadmap for the house list to Charlottesville if we roll out three tent towns locally and provide infrastructure won't this be Charlottesville on a megaphone telling all those if you build it they will come and he said it gets them out of the business district potentially I don't think it will I don't know that it will because the tent town don't offer does not offer what?
Starting point is 00:20:33 I would say it doesn't offer it doesn't particularly... There's multiple answers here. I know. For one, I would say it doesn't particularly offer any proximity to the services like the Haven. In fact... Very succinctly. Just be succinct. Multiple choice. Tent towns, designated areas locally,
Starting point is 00:20:53 does not offer what, succinctly? proximity to services free food at the soup kitchens and shelters locally panhandling opportunities to make money utilities to plug in out phones charges for phones and in an escape from inclement weather the tent towns do not offer they're not covered vestibules. They're not near storefront overhangs. They're not under overpasses like Freebridge. So, viewer and listener, let's humor the Blue Ridge Area Coalition for the homeless. Let's humor Patcham and let's humor the Haven. Where should the tent towns go? Judah Wickhauer. The International Real Estate Magnet gave me one clear-cut location. I'll save his
Starting point is 00:21:48 answer. You go where you think the three-tent towns should go. I've already given my response. I stand by it. Come on now, you're not standing by. Charlottesville City is going to create a tent town on Almoreal County property. You know the Charlestville. I don't even want to go down this weeds anymore. I want to humor all your ideas.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I respect your ideas tremendously. I think you're a tremendous voice of reason. But the city of Charlottesville is not going to create a designated tent town outside the Almoreal office building. Have to. As long as the people are still talking about this. Go ahead. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Talk about it. I have to hear you. My wife says I have to stop cutting you off. I don't think there are any other good options. What are you going to do? You need to put it, you want to put it in the park, right? You want grass. So what park are you going to use? The international real estate magnet with more stamps at his passport than people have. You're going to use... In Charlottesville suggests the land on high stream. It says the city paid millions of dollars for it. It's next to the river. They want to build a park. Just do it there. I mean, if we're going to talk about absurdities, didn't they just move people out from underneath a bridge that is by the water?
Starting point is 00:23:00 They moved it from out from under, touche. That's a point that you should make. They moved it out from under free bridge, out from under free bridge, which is the trailhead, out from under free bridge, which is not owned by the city. Who cares? Not owned by the city. They actually own the land on high street. I'm going to say this. Your idea that the city is, city of Charlottesville is going to create a tent down, tent town on Al Morrow County owned property is, is outrageous. But if people started, okay, let me, let me phrase it a different way. If people created their own tent town there, who is going to stop them? Almore County? Almore County will not allow.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So are they going to. There's a difference between having a tent town in a public park and a tent town next to the building where you're bored of supervisor. host meetings, the building where your board of supervisors have their offices, the building where your county executives, where your tax collections are being executed. Okay. You have to give me that. I'm not trying to yell here.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I think we have to, every viewer and listener realizes that a tent town, Charlottesville's not going to designate a tent town on the Almore County office, but you had Jim Hingley text us to explain why, Judah. But you keep characterizing it as me. suggesting that the city create that space. I don't think the city should or even would and I don't think they're going to create any
Starting point is 00:24:29 space. But the fact of the matter is... You don't think the city is going to create three? But the fact of the matter is it's an incredibly large, grassy area. It's two blocks from Haven and all the other stuff. And are you suggesting that
Starting point is 00:24:44 Almaral County is going to send cops in to disperse the people? Almore County will immediately put Almaral County will immediately put signage up on its county office building property saying you cannot camp or store your belongings here. It's one thing to have a tent town in a public park. It's another thing altogether to have a tent town next to where the executives of Almeral County run a 600 plus million dollar yearly operation.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Okay. We're back to the power of signs. All right. Well, so let's get into where. Please, let's not go down this road anymore. I'm not. I don't want to talk about this crazy idea. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Let's talk about where else to put it. Okay. let's do that we're going to go to cherry avenue okay they've already they've the the neighborhood is already said they don't want the low barrier shelter the low barrier shelter you're correct so i'm fairly certain there would be even less enthusiastic about a tent town where else well i i frank are you in agreement with with this statement that no one locally wants a tent town that's why i say there's there's no good place to put it yeah city council is not going to have any luck putting it in what a park somewhere tent town the first tent town was sandersville
Starting point is 00:25:59 on market street yeah that backfired on sam sanders they briefly allowed it because people were already doing it sam sanders goes on record newly minted city manager at the time saying i'm going to do whatever is best for the homeless i'm going to extend i'm going to eliminate the curfew at market street park and tent town materializes We dubbed it, monikered at Sandersville. Then he tasked police chief Kachis and his department to clean up tent town. Putting Chief Kachis again in a bad position. Which he navigated.
Starting point is 00:26:38 With class and grace and professionalism and skillfully. Again, the chief has shown multiple examples of navigating turmoil with class and grace and skillfulness and talent and and and like sage wisdom and i'm guessing you've talked to more of the homeless and more often than just about anybody with perhaps the exception of of patcham and b r a c h and and the other one the haven the the the international real estate magnet with a fully stamped passport that owns a boatload of local real estate suggested you spent millions of dollars on High Street to buy a mud pile from Wendell Wood, that should be one of the tent towns. That was one of his suggestions. City owns it at least. It's in city limits, Judah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Okay. So let's characterize that as one. Radio Neal, Janice Boyce Trevillian, welcome to the broadcast. Logan Wells Claylow, Georgia Gilmer, print radio and television, welcome to the broadcast. Daily Progress, we're about to call you out on the show today. So the reporters that are watching, we are going to hold you accountable for what is a a terribly reported story in today's newspaper. Yeah. Especially considering the week has gone by. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I know. It's just like so out of touch and so reflective of a dinosaur model. Let's say it's High Street. I don't think that should be where it is, John and Andrew. Just so you know. But that's what the international real estate magnet suggests because they own the city, the city owns the dirt. another location that's on the what the eastern portion of city limits
Starting point is 00:28:22 okay still close to downtown another location can the city yard be a tent town no why because it's adjacent to west haven no because it's i forget the exact terminology but it's basically been made a the the environmental p a EPA concerns by by you've been talking to kevin yancey no I haven't. I saw it. I read it somewhere just yesterday. Yeah, in the comment section of this show by Kevin Yancey. I read the same thing. Okay, but the fact of the matter is, it is.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I mean, okay, sure, use it. I mean, yeah, if you want a big open space and it's even closer than, I can't see it, I can't see putting a tent town at the, on the Ravana. So you don't see it on the city-owned Rivana property, the mud slide they bought from Wendell Wood, and you don't see it on the city-owned acreage in the heart of the city next to Waste Haven?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Do you know the, there's no sidewalk on half that street? This is a stopgap solution. We're in agreement, right? It's a stop-gap solution that once it goes up is likely to last at least two years, I would wager. I would not take that back. I think, no, I think you're probably right. Because Lloyd Snook and Michael Payne said it's going to be more than a year for the low barrier shelter.
Starting point is 00:29:53 They can't find anyone that wants to run a low barrier shelter. And they don't even know if they can build it out in the place, the one place. The city is so idiotic here. They've placed all their hopes and dreams on. Yeah. I'm going to have a whoso moment here. I'm going to call top of the list are the same. city yard for the town. If you don't know where the city yard is, the city yard is next to West Haven.
Starting point is 00:30:23 The city yard is where the city parks, a lot of its work trucks, its vehicles. I'm going to call the Deep Throat John Blair, very curious of your opinion on this. Rob Neal, very curious your opinion. Carlos Romero, if you're watching the program, I love you, Carlos Romero. Vamos, amigua. Al-ariva, chico. Bob Shada, Dave Warwick. of your opinion. Matt Nees, curious of your opinion. Just to name a few of the viewers and listeners that are watching the program. I'm going to go a high street. City Yard.
Starting point is 00:30:57 What's the third spot you pick? I don't have a spot. What do the comments say? Surely they must have some good ideas. Viewers and listeners. Bill McChesney says the city yard is an EPA cleanup site. I corrected it. It was Bill McChesney, not Kevin Yancey.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Janice Boyce Trevillian says Champion's old location Champions Brewing Company old location That's actually not bad That's Woolen Mills area? No Oh that's the one next to Belmont Bridge Yeah it's right behind the bridge
Starting point is 00:31:34 They're brewing They initially expanded to brewing In Woolen Mills though There actually is a really big green lawn over there That actually wouldn't be bad I'm, I, that's the one I'm going for. Deep throat highlights a theme that's going on with Reddit right now with some burner accounts. They call it sock puppet accounts on Reddit, on the Charlottesville subreddit, that a lot of this is Alburo
Starting point is 00:31:58 County's problem too. And dubiously and very suspect in suspect fashion, Almaro County is really not jumping in the fray with this homeless storyline. Of course not. Almoreal County, the neighboring jurisdiction has so much land. Arms length saying this is what Almaro County is doing right now. They're like, they're like, don't look at us. Should the I Love Sevo show say, hey, county executive Jeff and supervisors, Ned, Jim, Mike, Diantha, Ann, did I name them all?
Starting point is 00:32:39 And B, don't forget B. Are you going to jump in the mix here? Because this is partly your problem as well. Are you just going to let Charlottesville take all the arrows while you... Almore County with this storyline is like in the... In the Jerry Brockheimer movies, where there's a gunfight, and one of the guys in the gunfight holds up a body in front of him to take all the bullets while he's shooting behind the holding the dead body,
Starting point is 00:33:09 and the dead body in front of him is taking the bullets. Almoreal County is hiding behind the dead body and the dead body in Charlottesville right now. Yeah. What's Almore County doing here? But the problem with that is anything would something like that even be used? Again, we're getting further and further
Starting point is 00:33:30 from the epicenter of obviously where people want to be. That's the issue. So sure, you could put something out in Al Marl County, but if people still want to, get to the haven and you know the downtown anywhere downtown yeah this is where it happens downtown a free meal at the at the church yeah we have a pedestrian mall where thousands of people walk with disposable income we have outlets to charge your phones we have a library that allows you free access to get out from the inclement weather the heat the cold the rain and we have food
Starting point is 00:34:06 that's being offered for free everywhere and we have shelters that offer sleep over overnight and vestibules when you can't get a spot in the shelter. It's the perfect storm. It is the perfect storm. My third tent town is not Ix Park that was put in the feed. That's owned by Ludwig Kootner and Alan Kajin. That's private property. Bill says, what about McIntyre Park?
Starting point is 00:34:32 The challenge with McIntyre Park with the tent town is kids and children. The two tent towns that I've picked the city yard and High Street currently are not patronized by children and people for the most part. I'm cherry-picking, hand-picking areas that are not currently foot trafficked strategically.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I don't really have a third site. I'm open-minded to a third site, but I think the city yard and High Street, and yes, I realize... I say you put the grass lot behind Champion as the third spot. All right, grass lot behind, champion, but the city doesn't own that.
Starting point is 00:35:13 The city doesn't own that. That's private property. No private property owner is going to allow a tent town to spring up on their property because they have legal and insurance exposure. That's why.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And viewers and listeners, if the city were to allow designated towns to be birthed locally, those tent towns would raise exposure concerns for the city, the risk management department at the city of Charlottesville, I hope you're prepared for this conversation with tent towns, because violence will ensue at a tent town. When there was the Occupy Charlottesville movement, when Dave Norris, the former mayor, was
Starting point is 00:35:57 hung in effigy? At the time of the Occupy Wall Street movement, how long ago was the Occupy Wall Street movement? Occupy Wall Street Movement. Wasn't that in 2011? Yeah, you're right. September 17th, 2011. We had an Occupy Charlottesville movement in 2011. There was a tent town in Market Street Park in 2011. This is institutional memory from yours truly. I've been here 25 years now. There was a tent town there. I was walking through that tent town just because I'm a voyeur of human behavior. and in that tent town not only was former mayor Dave Norris hung an effigy
Starting point is 00:36:39 but women were being raped there was open air drug use violence and stabbings to the point the police Longo was the chief and his department gave whistles distress whistles to the women that were living in that
Starting point is 00:36:57 Occupy Charlottesville tent town so anytime what is it rape whistles rape, thank you I'll call it what it is rape whistles to the women that were living in the Occupy Charlottesville Tentown. So when any of the drunkards or high tent town citizens chose to get, break the law sexually, the rape whistles were blown into. And those whistles were blowing off left and right, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:37:28 That led to the demise of Tentown in Occupy Charlottesville. women were being raped and people were being stabbed. Charlottesville, if the city creates its own designated tent town, it is basically saying from an insurance risk and exposure standpoint, we're going to use taxpayer resources to do porter potty's, water, policing, safety, lighting. And we also know from 14 years ago, the tent town and Market Street Park led to people being raped and stabbed. those are facts you can find online facts
Starting point is 00:38:04 facts Bill McChessney says build out the Dewberry but that has the opposite of impact of what we're doing I like it I like it build out the dewberry
Starting point is 00:38:21 luxury accommodations at the center of the downtown mall that's going to you really want people on the downtown mall don't you Bill because he lives in Elmoral County. Deep Throat watching the program. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Then we'll get to John Blair. Deep Throat says, as for the location of tent towns, how about in the backyards of the Gillikins and the board members of the Blue Ridge Area Coalition of the Homeless? Charity begins at home. Yeah. Deep Throat says,
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm tired of being voluntold by these paladins of righteousness. to pay for their charitable priorities. Money where your mouth is, Matthew Gilliken, you virtual signalers. Then he says in Bozeman, Montana, the local homeless services organization raised $15 million from the community to build a new shelter in a spot that is close to services but not residential. And then he highlights the fact that Almaro County is hiding behind Charlottesville with the tent town topic.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Bill McChesney said Jason Kessler participated in Occupy Charlottesville. He is correct. It's 117. Next topic on the I Love Seville show. Judah Wickhauer, what do you got? Daily progress is misrepresentation.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You set the stage for this. I am... Go ahead and sit the stage for this. The funny thing is that I was... had this pointed out to me by a family member. who had been watching some of what was going on last week and sent me a text. In, I think, awe and disbelief that there was so much just the way it's presented
Starting point is 00:40:16 and how it looks very much like misrepresentation of, you know, the ordinance side of this and gives voice to everybody on the other side who's against the ordinance while, you know, saying things like pushback from the same downtown businesses now hoping to criminalize homelessness in the city. What the actual F is this? What the actual F is this? It's a David Velasquez article. The headline is, find me the headline. The headline is Charlottesville residents outraged
Starting point is 00:41:02 over a proposal to criminalize homeless. It is as much commentary as it is reporting from someone who does not provide commentary. They legitimately in this article try to villainize small business owners downtown. I mean, the third paragraph starts off saying police chief Michael Cautius' proposed ordinance. It wasn't Mike Cotches' proposed ordinance.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Who was Nimrod? Nimrod Bannham. Even Nimrod Bannham would call these people Nimrods. I love that name. Nimron Bannham would say to David Velasquez in the Daily Progress, you Nimrods, Chief Cotches didn't come. up with this ordinance? He's a police chief. He's a police chief. He's told what to do by council and the city manager. The article is titled Charlesville residents outrage over a proposal to criminalize
Starting point is 00:42:02 homelessness, probably written by somebody who's in his first or second job in journalism and is a microcosm of where we stand with print media locally. A microcosm. disappointed at best with this coverage. The fixer sends me this text message. He says, Jerry and Judah, the city-owned property on High Street is wide open for camping right now. There's absolutely nothing the city could do if a campsite materializes there. That's what I'm talking about. If the homeless people decide to form a camp somewhere, there's very little the city will do about it.
Starting point is 00:42:45 they may have cleared them out of the market street they cleared them out of the market street park they asked a few people to leave from under freebridge uh that was more than a few okay but go ahead you're making a good point but the fact of the matter is they actually uh the fact of the matter is they were cleared out from under freebridge back when the charlesville city police were still being used to do the city's, the city council's dirty work. Now that the ordinance has been indefinitely tabled, Chief Kachis has as much as said that they are no longer the ones to call about the homeless unless they're committing a crime. They should call, here's who should be called about the houseless in Charlestville. You should call the city councilors. Call the city councilors. send them DMs
Starting point is 00:43:48 Facebook message call them or Facebook video conference to city councilors about what's going on now I think if John Blair's got good suggestions Go ahead Judah I was just going to say if
Starting point is 00:44:03 the homeless started a new encampment there would be nothing anyone could do about it the city can't call the police John Blair says how about the old livestock market at the Hogwaller
Starting point is 00:44:22 that's a good one yeah that's a good one J.B. Is that still being used though? I don't think it is. He says Jerry, if you're talking actual parks honestly Northeast Park isn't utilized as much as any of the other parks in the city. Northeast Park.
Starting point is 00:44:39 He's exactly right. I don't even know where Northeast Park is in the city. I know a lot about this city. Where is Northeast Park in Charlottesville? I'm doing a quick Google search, Northeast Park, Charlottesville. I'm mapping it. Northeast Park. Do you know where Northeast Park is?
Starting point is 00:44:54 Sheridan Avenue. Yeah, Sheridan and Calhoun Street. Let's see. 4.8 acre neighborhood park acquired in 1975, located at the quarter of Sheridan Avenue and Calhoun Street. There is a full basketball court, soccer fields, playground facilities, a tot area for children ages two to five years old, and there's a perfect place for an encampment of the houseless that can do whatever they want, including
Starting point is 00:45:23 setting up porter pottys and tent towns there. I added that part of it. We'll give some love to John Blair, who always makes the program better, ladies and gentlemen. I want to highlight the Vermilion family, John and Andrew Vermilion, five generations strong in Almorel County. John and Andrew Vermillion, three generations strong at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. Sanitary needs, cleaning needs, pool needs, vacuum repair needs, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply the Vermilions are honest communicative. The Vermilions are good men. Ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Next headline, Judah Wickhauer, what do you got? Make sure those lower thirds are rotated. UVA considering selling Oak Lawn to city schools? Yep. We talked about this from the beginning of the Federal Executive Institute debacle. We talked about this with Deep Throat. We talked about this with John Blair. We offered this commentary in the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 00:46:16 We said when UVA, when the Federal Executive Institute initially was given to city schools, and then the Trump administration did a nana-nana-boo-boo, you're not going to get the FE building. We're going to give it to UVA. We said at that point that the University of Virginia should gift or lease or transfer at a nominal fee the Oakland property to city public schools as a show of good faith. as a gesture as an olive branch. And ladies and gentlemen, our crystal ball, our magic wand. No, Bill McChesney, the great Jardini, and the great boobini are not coming back.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But our magic wand here said, UVA, give the oak lawn property to Charlottesville Public Schools in Judah Wickhauer. That's what's happening. Fifeville, Oak Long, scuttle-budded as a daycare for UVA faculty, UVA employees. They're kids, not themselves. That was a zing at Melina Kibby and Craig Kent. Their children.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Now gifted, potentially, leased, and transferred at a nominal fee to city public schools. They're going to be talking about this on Friday in the B-O-V meeting. Good move, UVA. UVA understanding the power of public perception with this. Finally.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Next headline, Judah Wickear, what do you got? Let's see. Make this make sense, okay? No weapon detectors at Charlottesville City Schools, but weapon detectors at Almeral County Public Schools. All you have to do is walk through a metal detector. You're going to walk through metal detectors at Almore County Public Schools.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Those are in effect right now. but you're not walking through metal detectors in Almore County Public Schools. If you're a parent in Almore County Public Schools, you're doing this. Thank God. Breathing a sign relief.
Starting point is 00:48:21 The vast majority of you. If you're a parent in Charlottesville Public Schools, the vast majority of you are doing this. You SOBs, why are you listening to the Gillikins? Screw those Gillikins. who are pushing for the no metal detectors. They're also, maybe it's the same people, I don't know, but what is wrong with going through a metal detector?
Starting point is 00:48:44 No SROs. If you don't have a weapon. No, answer, can you help me answer that? I can't answer it for you. If you don't have a weapon, what's the problem with going through a metal detector? I mean... Make it make sense at Charlottesville Public Schools for sporting events, you have to walk through a metal detector.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Make it make sense. Charlottesville Public Schools, when you enter the high school, you do not have to walk through the metal detector. So at sporting events, when there's a fraction of attendance of the high school itself, you have to walk through a metal detector.
Starting point is 00:49:17 But at the high school itself, when it's the largest volume of people, you do not have to walk through a metal detector. Make it make sense, Superintendent Dr. Royale Gurley. Make it make sense, Charlottesville School Board. Make it make sense, Gillikins. No one can. No one can.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Next headline, Judah Wickcarrow, what do you got? Is this Tony Elliott? Yep, this is Tony Elliott. Tony Elliott. I mean, Madre, what pass, chico? Co-no carajo, Tony Elliott. Coaching, again, Miss field goals, botched fourth down calls.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Going into halftime with the 10-point lead, Tony Elliott, to lose by four-point. points 35 to 31, when you're outscored 21 to 7 in the third stanza, the third period, the third quarter, Tony Elliott, how many third quarters have you lost in your three years in change coaching in Charlottesville? Tony Elliott, that loss to NC State is a significant loss. One we will point on at the end of the season as, goodness gracious, that could have been bowl eligibility. Our goodness gracious, that's the difference between a six-win season and a seven-win season, or a seven-win season and an eight-win season.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Goodness gracious, what could have been if you beat NC State in Raleigh and then gone 4-0 with wins against William and Mary in Stanford. They have the tribe on Saturday. William and Mary is going to come up to Scott Stadium. They don't travel that well, that fan base. I'll put the over-under at 35,000 people, 35,000 people in attendance. There's going to be the announced attendance, then there's going to be the actual attendance.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I will bet you the actual attendance at Scott Stadium on Saturday will be sub-30. 5,000 people. Mark it down. I got the wand. Mark it down. And when a Scott stadium that seats more than 60,000 people has 35,000 people in it, that's a delta of 25,000. And 25,000 empty seats is a significant economic impact locally. Significant economic impact locally. Think about it. I have a 130 meeting. I'll close the program.
Starting point is 00:51:31 with this, restaurant owners and business owners. If you're looking for a new space for a restaurant, a new space for events, or an experiential business model, contact me, DM me, reach out to me. We can help invest in your future with a fantastic, a couple of space opportunities for you. We can do this through a structured lease that is, frankly, a lot of upside. on the front end of your term. The upside is significant. And that's the show. The program, you don't have to agree with us.
Starting point is 00:52:16 You don't have to disagree with us, but you're going to feel something after every show. It's the water cooler of conversation and content in Charlottesville and Central Virginia. All the media outlets literally watch the program. And then the news is reflected in the cycle over the next three or four days after each show airs. Judah Wickhauer, Jerry Miller.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Thank you.

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