The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Nate & Anne Kibler Were Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”
Episode Date: June 4, 2024Nate & Anne Kibler were live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to Th...e White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.
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Hey everybody, welcome to the first ever White Mountain Ministry Show.
I am your host, Nate Kibler.
I thank you for watching, I thank you for listening, I thank you for praying,
and I thank you for being a part of what the Lord is doing through this show.
Hey, this ain't church, y'all.
This is all about the kingdom of God, though.
But it's going to be very different. It's going to be very different. I'm excited for all that
we're going to do here. And we're going to have people in from all over the region. We're going
to have people in from all over the country, different parts of the world. They're going to
be sharing their testimonies. They're going to be sharing their giftings with us. They're going to be sharing their testimonies. They're going to be sharing their giftings with us. They're going to be sharing their teachings. And it's going to be a beautiful thing. I just want
to say going in, how this show got started, because it has nothing to do with me. This is
the Lord's show. He's just doing it through me. He's doing it through our guests. And it's an
honor that he has called us to do this assignment and bring this really to our region. And so again, guys, this was nothing that was ever
on my radar, not really something that I ever thought about. The truth is, from a ministry
standpoint, I felt like the Lord had led us out of the Charlottesville region for about the last
year and a half. And I went on a mission trip to Costa Rica and I got back and I said, Lord, what's next?
And it's very interesting because for those of you who know, it's very important to have
your spouse support you in whatever it is that you're being called to do.
And the beautiful thing is the Lord actually used my wife, my beautiful wife, Ann, to lead us to this moment. And so this is a few
months back now. And I had been back from Costa Rica for maybe about three days. And my wife was
doing some business with the man who started this I Love Seville network, Jerry Miller. And they
were about to wrap things up. And she said, you know, Nate, she said, I really feel in my heart that you're supposed to be the one to go meet with Jerry. And I said,
okay, I've known Jerry for a long time. We didn't know each other well, but always liked him. We
were actually on his show, a wedding show that we did with Barb Lundgren about four years ago.
It's hard to believe how fast time flies, but I came in that day and, you know, the beautiful thing is Jerry did not
approach me about this show. I did not approach Jerry. We just had a conversation when I came to
return something to him from Ann and one thing just led to another. And before we had left,
I was like, wow, this is the Lord. And, or I felt like it was the Lord. It's like, are we really
going to do this? And so, you know, again, some people have actually said that this is like my Nineveh
because I was not feeling like I was being led to Charlottesville.
But it's amazing how the Lord works.
And, you know, again, this is something that I take very serious.
I actually prayed on this with the Lord for 40 days.
It ended up being even more than 40 days.
I gave him my yes, but I knew it was going to take a lot of commitment. This is at least a 52-week
commitment, guys. So we're going to be doing this show every week, at least for the next year.
And it's going to be a lot. But again, I'm honored. And so that's really how the show started. And so where we are right now, this show is going to be a little bit different.
So for better or for worse, you're probably going to hear me personally talk more on this show
than you will for the rest of the 52 weeks that we are on here.
And some people are going to understand this and some may not,
but my special guest, I have a very special guest for this show. And his name is actually
the Holy Spirit. And again, some may not understand this, but he is alive. He is with us. He's on the set today. He's in the studio. He's not an it. He's not a blob. He's not,
you know, he's God. He's God on the earth. He's God in us. And, you know, I grew up for so much
of my life growing to church. And, you know, for the first 37 years of my life, I had no idea who the Holy Spirit was.
And I want to also say the idea to have the Holy Spirit as the first guest on the show was also my wife's idea.
And when I heard that, I just loved it. I knew it was the Lord.
So I'm going to glorify God today. This is this is the Lord's show.
And there's so many of us out there, so many Christians who don't have relationship with Holy Spirit, and we really don't even know who he is. I grew up in church and sat in the pews
every Sunday for most of my childhood. When I was 13 years old, I accepted Jesus as my Savior. I got
baptized in the Methodist church. But the truth is, nothing changed. I still lived my life the same. I did not know
what it meant to be a follower, to be a disciple of Jesus. And so, you know, I spent a lot of my
life not really knowing who I was and not really knowing who he is. And so the Holy Spirit will teach us all things.
The Holy Spirit is the ultimate teacher.
That's what the Bible tells us.
And so, excuse me.
And here's the other deal, guys.
I've never hosted a show like this before.
This is the first time I've ever done this,
and we're going to have fun. The kingdom of God is fun. I'm telling you right now, if your
walk with the Lord consists of church on Sundays and a Bible study and maybe a small group during
the week, I mean, that's great, but I'm just telling you there is so much more that you can
step into, so much more that you can step into. And so I'm going to give myself grace.
Again, I've never done this before. I know that the Lord is going to give me grace. There may be
times, guys, where I might mess up a scripture or I may stumble over my words, and that is okay.
I always like to say the kingdom is fun, but it's not a game because there's so much,
you know, it's very serious. We're representing Jesus.
The Holy Spirit is to, one of the main jobs of the Holy Spirit is to teach us how to look,
walk, and act like Jesus in all ways. And that's a very important and beautiful thing. But this
walk with the Lord is so much fun. It can be so much fun. So I encourage you, if your Christian
walk seems to be boring,
if you don't know where you're going, if you don't know who he is, if you don't know
the heart of the Father, I really encourage you to watch this show because there are going to be
so many amazing men and women of God from all over the country who have relationship with them. They
have history with God. It's not just about remembering a scripture. It's about becoming it. It's about
living it. We can actually, in so many ways, we live out this Bible. He's still alive. And so it
is the living word. And so I'm going to talk to you guys about Holy Spirit. He's been for so long,
he's been my friend. He's been my helper. He's been my comforter. He's been my teacher. And I love him so much. I love him.
And it's just a beautiful relationship. And so I'm going to talk a little bit about some
scriptures first, where Holy Spirit is in scripture. And then we're going to get into
when I met him. Because the night that I met Holy Spirit, that's when everything in my life changed.
When I encountered, had a real encounter with the one true living God.
And so, look at my notes here.
When we go to Scripture, you talk about the importance of Holy Spirit.
You know, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
I grew up for so much of my life, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I did not know who the Holy Spirit, you know, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I grew up for so much of my life,
Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I did not know who the Holy Spirit was, but he is all over scripture, guys. If we go to the New Testament, it says that when Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit came
like or as the form of a dove, and he remained. And at that point, that's when Jesus, who was fully God,
but also fully man, his ministry really started where he began to operate in signs and wonders
through the power of the Holy Spirit. That's very important to know through the power of the Holy
Spirit, because the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, as you can see, that's what my
shirt said. I raised Jesus from the dead, Holy Spirit, he signed it. The same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. As you can see, that's what my shirt said. I raised Jesus from the dead. Holy Spirit, he signed it. The same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in us.
He lives in me. And if you've given your life to Jesus, he lives in you. And so the Holy Spirit,
shortly after Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness. He was about to go fulfill the greatest ministry,
the greatest calling that the world had ever seen. And the Holy Spirit led Jesus into the
wilderness with specific intent, because I believe his father needed to know that he was ready and
Jesus himself needed to know that he was ready. When he was in, had not eaten for 40 days, he was in his perceived most weakest, vulnerable moment.
The enemy came in and thought that he was going to take him out. He challenged his identity as a son.
He said, if you are the son of God, if you are the son of God, turn these stones into bread. And Jesus,
in that moment, he knew who he
was. He still knew the power and authority that he carried. He was operating with the Holy Spirit.
And after those 40 days, he passed the test and he was ready to go fulfill his destiny for all of us
and for the kingdom of God. The Holy Spirit came at Pentecost after Jesus had been resurrected. About 120 of those. It's
really interesting because they said that over 500 people saw Jesus resurrected from the dead.
After he had been resurrected, over 500 people saw him. About 120 made it to the upper room.
So I encourage you, just know if 500 saw Jesus raised from the dead and only 125 made it to the upper room. Just give
yourself some grace and don't be too hard on yourselves when it comes to ministry. Okay, guys?
But he came to Pentecost. He came like a rushing wind and tongues of fire. And everyone there in
that room was filled with the power and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And as I already said in Romans 8, 11, the same spirit that
raised Jesus from the dead, he lives in us. He is one with us. If I only knew sooner in my life
that the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lived in me, lived as one with me. Guys,
when we're praying, we're not out there praying to the heavens, hoping that God is
going to hear us. He's right here. He's right here. It's an intimate relationship. John 17 says
that eternal life is to know Jesus Christ. It doesn't say that eternal life is to go to church
or to say a prayer to go to heaven or to be good during the week. Eternal life is to know Jesus. The Hebrew word
yada, and I don't know a whole lot of Hebrew, guys. I'm a simple man, right? I don't have
all the interpretations of the Greek and the Hebrew, but what I know is that he lives in me.
I know that he loves me. I know that everywhere that I go that he is. And then when I walk into a room, Jesus is there
because he lives as one with me. And that is powerful. But the Hebrew word yadah means to know
intimately. Like you would know your spouse, your children, your parents, your closest ones. Like
that is eternal life, to know Jesus intimately. And the Holy Spirit, again, he will teach us all things.
He will teach us how to have a relationship, how to hear his voice, how to walk with him,
and all these beautiful things. I mean, he never told me the night that he came and set me free,
he never said, Nathan, he never said, I want you to go and be a pastor or start a church.
No, he said, the first thing he said to me, he said, you're going to do this too.
And I said, teach me. And that night, the Holy Spirit became my teacher.
To go even a little deeper into scripture, look, we have the gifts of the Spirit that we talk about
in 1 Corinthians 12. We're talking,
guys, we're talking words of wisdom. We're talking words of knowledge. We're talking prophecy.
We're talking miracles. We're talking the gift of faith. We're talking speaking in tongues. We're
talking interpretation of tongues. We're talking discerning of spirits. And I feel like I am,
and I think healing. I don't know if I said healing or miracles,
but there's nine of them. So nine gifts of the Spirit. I actually believe there's a whole lot more gifts that we can't have, but those are the ones that are listed in Corinthians. So we have
the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and then we go to Galatians 5, and we also have the fruits of the Spirit. See, we can move in signs and wonders, but we also need
the fruit in our life that represent Jesus. So we talk about the fruits of the Spirit. We have
love, peace, joy, gentleness, kindness, patience, self-control. Again, there's more, but who Jesus
is, we are called to represent him. Guys, if we go to church on Sundays and we get
into our car, we blow up at our wife, we blow up at our kids, we're not kind at work, we're cussing
out people in the streets, and we call ourselves Christian, that is not a representative of Jesus.
We have to look different. When people see us, they have to look at us, see us walk into the room,
and know that something's different. When they have a conversation with us, they feel loved
because Jesus is love. Love is a person. His name is Jesus Christ. That's what love is,
and he lives in us. So we need to embody that everywhere we go. This is not just church on Sundays and be like
the rest of the world. This is 24-7 around the clock. This is a surrender. This is giving your
life to something greater. This is not Jesus incorporated. This is I give my life to you.
And that's one of the things when I was 13 years old I accepted Jesus as my savior but I don't
know that I gave my life to him and so I'm going to talk about you know now my personal testimony
of when I met the Holy Spirit I'm going to be drinking water throughout every show we ever do
guys I don't Jerry said he always drinks water or coffee I don't know how you can go an hour and I'm going to be drinking water throughout every show we ever do, guys.
Jerry said he always drinks water or coffee.
I don't know how you can go an hour and talk and be passionate and not drink water.
So bear with me on that.
All right.
So look, again, I was baptized at 13 years old. I considered myself to be Christian.
But I lived a life of sin for a long time, guys. A long time. I started drinking
alcohol when I was in high school. I started smoking weed when I was in high school. I started
becoming very interested in women when I was in high school. And I went to college and it didn't
stop. I got out of college. It kept going. It became an addiction. Before I knew it, I was
probably what the world
would call an alcoholic, a functioning alcoholic. You know, I had a good life on paper. I had a
beautiful wife, a beautiful son, but I was dying inside. I had been on anti-anxiety medication
every day for seven years. So 20 years of smoking, 20 years of drinking, pornography, strip clubs, gambling.
Look, this might make some people uncomfortable, but this is my testimony. This is who I used to
be before I was walking with Jesus Christ. And so I was a mess. I was ready to leave my family
and for no good reason. The enemy wanted to take me out
because he knew that I had a great destiny on my life for the kingdom of God. And so if you're
watching this, just, I'm just going to stop there. We're just going to go with the testimony. So
this was almost six years ago now, guys. And my wife and I, we did have one child, but we always
wanted more children. It actually took
us over five years of work trying to conceive to get pregnant with our son. He is a miracle.
The first time I ever actually knew that I could hear the voice of God was when we were pregnant
with our son. And the truth is, we started actually doing things for the kingdom, but I had
no idea how real the spiritual battle was.
We started doing things and I could feel
that something was trying to take me away from God,
but I had no idea how real that was.
I didn't actually know what was happening.
And so my dad got sick with the disease
and we were struggling with infertility.
And so instead of leaning on God,
I went to a dark place. And so we had a friend that approached my wife. Well, actually at that
time, I can't say she was a friend. We actually barely even knew her. She said, I heard about
your story. At this time, it had been about four years of trying to conceive to have another child.
And she said, I don't know if you guys believe in miracles, but we have someone who's coming in from Boston, Massachusetts. He prays for people all over the world. He sees all these amazing
miracles. I don't know where you guys are in your faith, but we want to invite you to our home church
to have him pray for you. I always believe in miracles my whole life. When I was seven or eight years old,
my dad actually had a heart condition. His heart was actually too large for his chest.
He was in line for a heart transplant. And I remember my mom thinking that she was going to
be a widow with four young children. And one day the doctor called, my mom was in the kitchen I mean this is like old school this is a
long 35 years ago now and she started crying she came and gave me a hug she said it's a miracle
she said your dad's heart has gone back to its normal size and 35 years later that man's heart
is still ticking so I've always believed that God is our miracle worker. What I did not
know is that God would do miracles through us. I had never seen it. I had never heard it. I had
no understanding of this. But I remember the night before we went, we felt like we were led to go.
I actually jumped out of my bed. The spiritual battle was so real. I said, I don't know what's going on,
but I think I'm losing my mind.
I feel like I'm going crazy.
I really hope, even though we were going for prayer
to have a baby, I said,
I remember hoping that this man could help me.
So we went there that night.
Somehow the Lord got us in that room.
Sean's plane was late.
I couldn't tell you the number of times I almost got up and left.
But when Sean got there, he started speaking.
And I remember when I walked into that room, I grew up as a casual Christian.
There were people in that room that were down on their knees, that were praising Jesus.
And I didn't understand it, but I knew that I wanted that. I knew that their
relationship with God was a lot deeper than what I had. And so Sean started speaking and sharing
these testimonies about all these people and these miracles and people around the world he had
prayed for that were healed. And again, I had never seen or heard anything like that, but I believed it as truth.
I believed it in my heart. It hit, pierced my heart as truth. And so
I remember thinking there were disabled kids in the room. There were people that I could look
around and say like, wow, these people really need a miracle. They really need prayer. Who am I to even ask for prayer?
And that was just such the lie of the enemy
because the reality is I was in such a dark place.
I needed Jesus in a very real way.
And so I thank God for my wife for a lot of reasons,
but for this night, Ann was in the room.
We were together when this happened.
I was a tough guy in those
days. I wouldn't be sharing the things that I'm sharing right now. I actually hadn't cried in 20
years. And Sean had prayed for a bunch of people in the room. He said, is there anybody else? And
my wife starts tapping me. And those who know my wife, big bubbly personality, she started tapping
me. She said, tell him about your anger. Tell him about your anger. So I started opening up about these things in front of a room full of strangers that I had never met. And Sean looked at me, I was sitting
on the back of a couch. He said, you're being tormented, son. He said, it's time for it to go.
I had no idea what was about to happen, but this man took my hand and within five seconds,
I started trembling and I started crying. The power of God hit me in a very real way.
And then about 10 seconds after that, I went, the spiritual battle just met in my body.
I went completely paralyzed.
I could not speak.
I could not breathe.
I could not move.
My wife will tell you that she thought I was going to die because I was convulsing. And I was literally screaming,
screaming at the top of my lungs for probably 40 seconds. And all I could tell you guys is that
when I could breathe again, I had no idea what had happened, but I knew I was free from it all. It was impossible. It could have only been God. 20 years of drinking, gone.
20 years of smoking, gone. Seven years of anti-anxiety medication with anybody watching
who knows anything about prescription medications. I quit cold turkey after seven years with no side
effects, which in itself is impossible. Impossible. But the Lord taught me so many more
things through that night. He set me free from addiction. He saved my marriage. And he came in
at a moment where for me, oh, I feel the Holy Spirit right now. Thank you, Lord. I it myself. I hated everyone around me. There was no reason in my mind that God would
love me. But he came in at that weakest, darkest moment and he said, I love you, son.
And this is what I want anybody to know watching the show, wherever you are in your life,
if you have addictions, if you have depression, if you have struggles, if you have marital problems, God does not want you in that place. He wants you to have freedom.
He wants you to have new life. And he's good. He sees you and he knows your heart.
He wants to see you fulfill the destiny that you are called to for the kingdom of God.
And so that night, that moment, one encounter with the Holy Spirit,
everything in my life changed.
He took a heart of stone and turned it to a heart of flesh. I had a joy and a peace and a euphoria that I cannot explain. I cried for two
days after that night. I had not cried in 20 years. You know, the Holy Spirit, I love him.
If you don't know that God is funny, the Holy Spirit has a sense of humor. And those who are
around the Holy Spirit a lot, he makes us laugh when we're in those moments we call it getting
drunk in the Spirit. And I do that too. But many times I cry. It takes me back to that moment
when I feel his presence, and, you know, the anger, you know, the rage. I mean, I had uncontrollable
rage for so many years that I tried to mask with a band-aid of, you know, drinking or smoking or
lifting weights or anger. I mean, I took anger management classes. I tried to mask with a Band-Aid of drinking or smoking or lifting weights or anger.
I mean, I took anger management classes.
I tried to do it on my own strength.
None of it happened but 30 seconds of the Holy Spirit and I was free.
I'm so grateful that my wife was in that room that night, guys.
My wife grew up in an atheist family and she believed in God, but she
did not know Jesus. It was such a powerful moment for my wife to even be in that room. Two days
later, I was like, I need to know who this man is. This, this, this man who prayed for me, I knew it
was God, but it was still like, all this man did is touch my hand and say, Jesus, We want to, you know, put all these methods out there
of how you got to do things and how you have to cast out devils. This man said, Jesus. And he took
my hand and the power of God took over. But we got to see Sean. And two days later, he came to our
house. He baptized us one after another. My wife gave her life to Jesus just for being in the room
and witnessing the power of God. It was so supernatural. So guys, the Holy Spirit is real.
He's alive. My goodness. And what I started to see very shortly after that, the first thing,
I think I already touched on this, but the first thing the Holy Spirit said, I was sobbing, I was in tears. He said, you're going to do this too.
And I said, teach me. And I have to tell you right now, I had read the Bible at times in my life,
but it didn't, it's hard for me to explain, but it's like, I could see it at times. It was like on my,
on my counter, like I'd take it with me on vacations. It would, would be there. And it's
like, it was just like asking me to come read. But I, for some reason I just, I didn't do it
very often. I'm just being honest. But when, after that night, I mean, the way I saw the world,
the veil was on, was, was lifted before my eyes. And, and, um, when I started reading this, this, this Bible,
this, this word of God, um, I mean, it is alive. It, it, it truly became alive and I started to
see things. And, and, and so something I would talk about, like we can remember all these Bible
verses guys, but for, for all of our, our, you know, our knowledge, we pump ourself in our
knowledge about being right and being able to memorize scripture, but it's not about being right. It's about being righteous.
It's not about being right. It's about being righteous. So I don't know how many scriptures
I remember, but the scriptures that I know, like it's because they've become part of who I am. The
Holy Spirit, when you, if you read the Bible with the Holy Spirit
and ask, you know, the Holy Spirit, he will give you revelation. So all of our, for all of our
knowing, get understanding. Understanding is revelation and revelation of the word is only
really going to come through the Holy Spirit. So what I started seeing very quickly, I got very
quickly after that night, I was consumed
with the Bible. I got up at five o'clock every morning and I was in scripture. Never done that
in my life. I mean, he just, he trans started to transform me in so many ways. And so John 14,
he told me that night, he said, I will teach you. And I trusted him. And then he confirmed through his word, which I knew
really very little about. We're going to go to John 14, 15. It actually says in my Bible that
Jesus promises the Holy Spirit. If you love me, keep my commands. I learned, I heard the Dan
Moeller say this for those of you guys who know Dan Moeller. It's not, if you love me, keep my commands. No, if you love me, keep my commands. That's Jesus. And I will ask the Father, and he
will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever. The spirit of truth. The world
cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him, but you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you as orphans.
And then we skip through to 25.
All this I have spoken while still with you,
but the advocate, the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in my name,
will teach you all things
and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Peace I leave with you.
My peace I give you.
And so he confirmed what he told me that first night through his word.
Thank you guys for being with us today i'm honored for whoever's watching this is our first show and it's exciting so more about the holy spirit
so in the old testament you guys i'm sure many of you watching this know this but in the Old Testament, you guys, I'm sure many of you watching this know this, but in the Old
Testament, like when Moses parted the Red Sea, it was a visitation of the Holy Spirit. It was a
visitation. He was not one with Moses, but thanks to Jesus, thanks to the sacrifice that he paid so
we could be free. There's so many beautiful things about the moment of the cross that I will never probably even personally be able to completely comprehend.
But I know it was the most beautiful act of love that we could ever see.
The sacrifice, it was sacrificed through obedience for us.
For us, guys.
He loves us so much.
But thanks to that sacrifice, the Holy Spirit, when you give your life to Jesus, it's no longer a habitation.
He comes and makes his home in us.
We live as one with the Holy Spirit.
And guys, so many of us, we give our life to Jesus.
We don't know what that means. I think it's Bill Johnson who says it, that the Holy Spirit lives in prison inside non-believing
believers. Meaning it's like, we know that he's real. We know that he lives inside us, but we
don't know that he actually wants to work through us. The beautiful thing about that night, guys, that I was set free from darkness, you know, he
said, I love you. And then he basically put me to work. And it was amazing. I was so on fire
for the Lord. I had never prayed over anybody in my entire life. I didn't know how to pray.
But three days after that night, I was set free from darkness.
The Lord gave me a new heart.
I was praying over strangers in the streets.
Five weeks after that, I started seeing instant miracles.
I started seeing healings.
And that's been my daily life for over five and a half years now.
And it's through the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit will teach you how to pray.
The Holy Spirit will teach you how to love. The Holy Spirit will teach you how to cast out demons.
The Holy Spirit will teach you how to heal the sick. He'll teach you how to raise the dead.
He will teach you how to look, walk, and act like Jesus Christ in all ways.
So if I haven't gotten the point across yet,
Holy Spirit is alive,
he knows you,
and he lives inside of you.
He'll bring conviction to your heart, guys.
This is more.
He will bring conviction to your heart.
We call it our conscience. It's like when you're walking with Holy Spirit, this is not about
legalism. This is not about, you know, trying to be good. The Holy Spirit will convict you. If I'm
watching a show, if I'm listening to music that, you know, that I shouldn't be listening to, the
Holy Spirit reveals that to me. I'm not trying, it's like, you know, I, that I shouldn't be listening to. The Holy Spirit reveals that to me. I'm not
trying. It's like, you know, I'm not trying not to drink alcohol anymore. It's not, it's not like
that, that I'm still an addict. That's what we teach in AA. And like, I'm not knocking on AA or
the other ways that people are able to stay clean guys. But you know, one of the things that the
Lord has taught me, when you give your life to him, you are a new creation. You are a new creation. That old you, the sinner, he died.
You come up born again in Jesus Christ. I'm no longer an addict. I don't struggle with alcohol.
I can be around it. I can look at it. We can have it in our house. We can
serve it to guests. I can smell it. It has no power over me. I'm not struggling not to drink
or watch pornography, guys. I got set free from those things. I am no longer an addict. I am a
son. I'm a son of the Most High. So I want to encourage you, when you give your life to him,
you don't have to struggle with these things for the rest of your life.
You don't have to stand up and say, hey, my name is Mary and I'm an addict.
You know that you can be a son.
You can be a daughter.
You are a son or daughter.
But we have to learn who we are, guys.
We have to learn who we are, who we have become in Jesus Christ.
Good. All right. So we're going to talk about our testimony, the power of our testimony.
So White Mountain Ministries is the ministry that the Lord gave us. I was actually, guys,
in ministry for over five years. We think we have to go out, we have to have an encounter,
or if we have an encounter with the Lord that we're just supposed to go and like, you know,
get an LLC and start a nonprofit five days later, guys, it doesn't have to be like that, all right?
It's not about a title. It's not about having your own church. It's about relationship with Jesus. And so I went out there. I had almost
no scripture knowledge. I really had no idea what I was doing, but I started sharing the testimony,
the goodness of God, because that night was so impossible. I just wanted to share it with the world.
And so the motto, the tagline, if you have it, of our ministry actually is,
if you've had an encounter with Jesus and a testimony, you have a ministry. You don't have to wait. Go share the good news, guys. We think that we have to be so polished that we have had
everything right, that we have to have the approval from the church. I went out there and just started sharing these things with friends. I would see
the tears in their eyes because the Lord was leading me to the people, whether I knew it or
not, that had hearts that were ready to receive. Like you can never take away anybody's testimony.
You guys can hear what I'm sharing with you right now. you can say he's crazy. You can say, I don't believe
him. That's fine. But all I can tell you is that you can never take it away. So whatever it is,
your relationship, your testimony with Jesus Christ, I encourage you to share it. It's meant
to be shared. And these people that I would share this testimony with, they would go home at night
and they would get delivered themselves. They would go home and have an encounter with Jesus just from hearing the testimony.
Because when we share our testimony with people, guys, it gets relived.
It gets relived.
Hold on. What is it?
Okay.
It's 25, right?
Okay. All right. Cool. Sorry. okay it's 25 right okay all right cool sorry this is like i said we have grace and this is the first time we've ever done this show so i got my man judah over here running the show thank you judah
i appreciate you i got my man jerry over here jerry i appreciate you and and uh you know when
we when we started the show,
it's really cool. I'm going to go back and touch on this. Um, because I'm waiting for my next,
my next guest, I believe that they will be arriving soon, but it's, it's really interesting
because four years ago, when I was on the show with Jerry, you know, we, we talk about sharing
testimony and part of this guys, you, you've, many of you have seen for years that I share testimony.
You know, testimonies are the things that I see God do on social media.
It's not, hey, look at me.
You know, there's reasons.
Some people the Lord may not call to share testimonies on social media.
But for me, he has.
And there's been so much fruit that has come from that.
And I just saw another guest, a beautiful guest, one of the most beautiful guests I've ever seen walking through the room.
That's not Judah either.
And it's not Judah.
And I have a guest talking.
We are live right now, but you're welcome to come in.
So anyways, what was really interesting, we were on that show four years ago and jerry
knew what i was about because we're friends on facebook and he would see these testimonies that
i'd share on social media and at the end of the show jerry actually asked me it had not this show
was about weddings but he said nate he said i to know, when are you going to become a pastor and start a church?
And I remember reaching out to Jerry after that day and saying, you know what, brother?
I don't think that I'm called to start a church.
But what I do know is that you have a greater calling on your life.
And I believe that the kingdom of God is going to use this I Love Seville network for greater things.
And now four years later, we're back together.
And we both know that it's the Lord.
And Jerry likes to call it, he used the word, he said, it's serendipitous.
Jerry's a really smart guy.
I said, Jerry, I don't even really know what that means, but it sounds good.
I said, but in my world, what we call that is a divine encounter. That is the divine orchestrated thing through God. And many of you who I believe
are watching this will know what a divine encounter is. And so the power of our testimony,
guys, the power of our testimony, it is so beautiful. It is so important.
And all of us have one.
Am I at a point now where I'm about to bring on my next guest?
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
All right.
I think this is good.
Are you parked right out there?
You keep your eye on it?
Okay. Yeah.
You got in?
Well, that was a blessing you were able to park there.
I know.
Is she live?
She's live.
Oh, you can see her.
Oh, hey, guys.
This feels weird.
Oh, hello, Ms. Ann Kibler.
This is my better half.
I don't even know what camera I'm looking in.
It's okay.
I'm just looking at my husband.
He's my safe person. even know what camera I'm looking in. It's okay. I'm just looking at my husband. He's my safe person.
You know what?
I'm just going to share this, and we'll see what Ann wants to say or what not to say.
Because the truth is, getting on camera, guys, as many of you know, it's not an easy thing to do.
And so the Holy Spirit, he's been with us the whole time.
But we talk about, I've talked a lot about the Holy Spirit today.
I've talked about lot about the Holy Spirit today. I've talked about,
you know, the power of God. But, you know, one of the things that he started teaching us,
you know, I started seeing miracles. I started seeing signs and wonders. And, you know, I think
I probably thought that I was something special. And people started calling me in, asking me to
speak at their ministry, speak at their churches. And I said, you know, this is just going to be my life. And, um, you know, we, we started having it with the
interesting thing going back to that night that I was set free from darkness. And when, uh, Sean
Hurley prayed over me, he also prayed over us to have a child, another child. And there are so
many people along the way that prayed for us to have another child. And so we are going to talk about that journey
because the Lord has taught us so much about family. This is not about me. The Lord has made
it clear to us for years. This is about the most important ministry that we have is our family,
guys, is our children, it's our spouses, because so many amazing men and women of God, we have
gifts. We know we have a calling on our life,
and we run out the door, and we may gain the whole world, but our wife, our spouse can't stand us.
They think we're a fraud. Our children never see us. They don't know who we are. And the Lord has
taken me through some times, and we'll get into that, I guess, a little bit about, you know, it's not about being seen and heard to be
used in powerful ways. He's been preparing us for this for a long time, but he didn't just say,
Nathan, go get a microphone. I need to share this with the world through you. It's teaching. Look,
he's a great teacher. If you know great teachers, you know, you're not going to, the Lord is, you know, or if you're, you know, a teacher in school and you're in second grade and you don't know how to read, you don't know your ABCs, your teacher should not graduate you to third grade.
That would not be a good teacher.
You need to learn how to read.
So the Holy Spirit wants to, you know, he's not going to take us to higher levels, guys, until we're ready.
I mean, we can step out and be disobedient and do it,
but he's going to teach us the right way.
We're always in a rush.
Here's the thing about Jesus.
Jesus was never in a rush.
And some of these things may hurt.
We don't understand it when we're going through it.
We talk about these wilderness seasons,
but they are so necessary to prepare us for what we are being called to do.
And the reality is, and Anne,
do you want to step in at this about our journey for what happened next after, you know, after
years, a few years after we really started walking in the kingdom of God, and we were with one
beautiful child, our son, Kai Roman, for a lot of that time? Yeah, you know, it was really tough. I know that
there are others of you that have gone through infertility and know how hard it can be when
you're yearning to have another baby and you want so much to love a child and you can't have one.
And I know that there are people out there who probably have
people that they know who are going through that. And it's really tough. And so I cried out to the
Lord. I definitely cried out to the Lord. Well, not only did she cry out to the Lord,
she kind of really started like demanding things. Okay. Well, you know, I'm so glad I have a guest
on the show now because this
show is going to be fun and i really like to call people out well i was uh i was especially my wife
you know when you're new and stuff i okay i'll be honest i was a child and i was a brat i was a
brat in the lord and i demanded answers and i said you know i've got this new walk with the lord and
like it's still not happening why aren't you helping me make this happen the way that I want it to happen
easily and quickly. And you know, the Lord has his own timeline. He's got his own timeline.
So we went a couple of years after that night and thinking that we were going to have a baby
really soon. We did have lots of prayers. I mean, we probably, I mean, we had multiple, you know, um, IVF procedures to try to
have another child and nothing was working and I was good. I actually felt like I was blessed to
have a son. Um, I didn't feel like I personally needed to have any more children, but Ann always
said she felt such a strong desire on her heart to have another child. I mean, it got so bad where I just was like, you know, Lord, just take this desire of my heart away.
You know, I can't live like this anymore.
I can't keep wanting something so badly and feeling like it's meant for me and I can't have it.
And so I prayed that prayer. And I know a lot of you have prayed that prayer too.
And so my wife, for those who don't know you, I didn't mean to cry today. She's very beautiful,
but she is a pit bull. And when she makes up her mind to do something, as Jerry Miller knows this,
if it's any in her control at all, it's going to happen.
But this is the thing about this guys is like,
this was something that we could only control, but so much, but, and being persistent, she said
she was mad at God. And you know, who knows we get mad at God when we don't get our answers,
which what I'm trying to tell you is that you're mad at the wrong person. He's the giver of life.
He loves us. Right. But she got mad at God. She said, I'm going to fast until you give me answers. I would never
encourage anyone to do this, but that's what she did. And I was pretty serious about it. I mean,
I really wanted revelation as to what was happening. And during that fast,
the Lord spoke to me and I really felt like we were supposed to go overseas.
And Nate thought that I was absolutely crazy.
I said, Nate, we're supposed to go to Cyprus.
She's whispering, but she said Cyprus, which is a country.
It's a country on the other side of the planet, and it's expensive to get to.
And, yeah, we knew nobody nobody there I had no connections there I mean it just I just felt like it was the Lord and I and I
did you say that you fasted for 21 days no I did not she went on a this cute little girl she went
on a 21 day water fast yeah and at the end of the she said, the Lord said to go to Cyprus. And I said,
you're out of your mind. I said, you are out of your mind. I said, there's no way the Lord told
you that. Oh yeah. Nate was really adamant. And I prayed and I was like, you know, if, if this is
really what we're supposed to do, if this is really you Lord speak to him, speak to him. Um,
the next thing we know, we're having a conversation on the way to the beach.
And he's like, well, you know, the Lord really speaks to me in like signs and I got to see it
like blatantly. And then we just passed by this Cypress road. Yes, I tried to fight it. And there
were like four more Cypress roads like on the way. We were in the middle of the conversation.
I tried to fight it, but I'll tell you where the kicker was for me.
We went to a conference with a man, probably a lot of you guys know, by the name of Tom Loud.
Yes, he's an incredible man of God. We wanted to get prayer to have a baby, and he prayed over us, and he said,
I was still trying to find any way I could to not go on this trip.
Well, at that point, I had persisted my way into like forcing Nate to do it I mean he still was we
had planned it but he had not pulled the trigger in his heart like on paper I guess we weren't
planning on going but it wasn't quite there yet I mean he was looking for all kinds of ways to back
out but this man put his his as soon as his hands left and he said,
the Lord said, the child will be here in 11 months, which I knew that we were leaving in two months
and a pregnancy is typically nine months. So to me, that was the Lord saying that it was okay to
go on this trip or that he was even calling us to go on the trip. Guys, sometimes it's like,
in my mind, I'm like, okay, he can give us a child supernaturally i know he can but sometimes it's about more than
that because what we learned through this journey it was the we don't have a lot of time on the show
so i'm going to talk about this really quickly stepping out in faith we stepped out in faith
it was the the beginning of covet it was before they didn't you know the travel ban we got to the
airport there were people in masks all over the place. And I remember getting in that country and I said, oh my goodness,
what have we gotten ourselves into? They closed the borders to Cyprus to get into the country for,
they had seven borders in the country. They closed six of them. We were stuck with our three-year-old
son for probably about 10 hours to go two miles. They were checking
temperatures at the border. If you had a fever, they would not allow you into the country.
Try doing that with a skeptical husband with a young child. I was consumed with fear,
but in that moment, and this is the thing guys, many times before you reach the finish line,
before you're going to reach your destiny, the giants come.
Yes.
The enemy will come.
Yes.
But I heard that still small voice, the Holy Spirit.
He said, go.
We stayed in that car.
We went.
It took us about 12 hours to go two miles.
We landed at the airport at 10 a.m.
And we checked into the hotel at like 9.30 p.m.
It was crazy.
The next day, they shut down the border, all the borders to the country.
They were not letting people enter or leave at that time.
It wasn't a week, baby.
If we had waited one more day.
Yeah.
What I'm about to reveal, which some of you may not know but a lot of people
do we came home from that trip and ann was pregnant with three babies three babies and you talk about
the shock of a lifetime you talk about the god of abundance this is so beautiful because the day
that our three beautiful little girls were born,
John 10, 10, the thief comes to still, still, still kill and destroy. But I, as in Jesus,
I have come to bring life and life abundantly. Born on 10, 10, you talk about abundant life.
You think that's not the Lord. That's their scripture, John 10, 10. And so this has been our life, guys. The Lord has,
the Holy Spirit has taught us so much that family is our most important ministry. You need to be
united with our spouse. We do not have a perfect marriage, but we love each other. We love our
children. We're raising them up for the kingdom of God. And, and, um, you know, what I want to say
before we get off the air, well, honey, I love you. I love you too, baby.
I'm glad that you made it.
Me too.
I almost didn't.
Oh, my gosh.
The way the Lord has lined this up, she almost didn't make it.
Don't even get into that.
But she barely made it here.
But the Lord, like, he's the way he orchestrates things.
I was praying on the way.
I was like, all right, if it's supposed to line up, like, let there be a spot right in front, right in front. And there it is. to be sponsors of this show, to bless this ministry, to bless this show, to bless what we're calling to do
because the Lord,
the reason of this show,
a big reason of this show
is like he wants to transform a city.
He wants to transform a region
for the kingdom of God.
And this show and the people
that are coming on this show
will be for part of that.
This is not just a show.
This is for a bigger purpose.
And so moving forward
next week, you know, hopefully you guys enjoy what I shared today, but you're going to hear a lot less
of me. There will be guests for the majority of the shows moving forward. We will have testimony
time. We will have words of the week, but we will have our kingdom connection every week from people
around the region, around the country, around the world. And I am very excited because our show next week is going to have the man that prayed for me the
night I was set free. His name is Sean Hurley. He's been a mentor to us for many years. He loves
our family. I could say so much about him, but for the next, the last 15 minutes of the show next
week, guys will also be, I didn't even open my computer today, but next week we will be more, we'll be
taking prayer requests. Sean and I will be praying for people. And I know that the power of the
presence of God is going to be very strong and we're going to have a really good time.
Have the courage to call in, have the courage to make a comment. I know that it's hard
to ask because you feel like other people may need it more than you. You know, I was hesitant for prayer too when I was going through infertility, but it's all about stepping out and the Lord will
come if you just step out. He will meet you where you are. So thank you to my beautiful co-host of
the day, Ms. Ann Kibler. And so guys, thank you for being on our first ever episode. I pray,
I believe that you guys, you know, were episode. I pray, I believe that you guys,
you know, were spiritually fed from this.
I hope that you learned some things from it.
There's going to be so many amazing things that happen on the show.
We pray that the region is transformed
through this in Jesus name.
And so I speak life and love
and healing over your bodies, over your minds.
I just speak blessing over you and your families.
And we'll see you next week. Thank you.