The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Ned Gallaway, "I Hear Home Depot Open By July"; AlbCo Teachers & Students Want Police In Schools

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

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Good Friday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on our flagship show. It's the I Love Seaville show here on the I Love Seaville network. It's a pleasure to connect with you guys on what has been a very busy week for our team, our studio and our building in downtown Charlottesville. Deals are materializing and closing. The news continues to percolate and escalate,

and we do our best to stay at the forefront of the deal flow and of the pulse of the community. I think this show embodies that in a lot of ways. What we try to do with the I Love Siebel Show is we accumulate information, whether it's the business community, politics, nonprofits, sports, development, the economy and real estate. And we make notes of what's going on and then we pass that information on to you. I think we did that yesterday with Dr. Daniel Halpert, Judah. Dr. Halpert is the visionary businessman behind Coco's, is it Coco's Adventure Park? That's almost it. I think it's Coco's Adventure Coco's Adventure Center. You just, you know, we talked about it yesterday. It is Coco's Adventure Factory. Here you go.

And that's going to open early next year. If you didn't have a chance to listen to a man who's putting millions of dollars on the line, literally millions of dollars on the line, and signing a 10‑year lease, personally guaranteed 10‑year lease, that's collateralized by real estate that he owns. He said on yesterday's interview his insurance overhead alone for Coco's Adventure Factory, which is going to be an indoor family fun park, it's going to have trampolines and an arcade and bumper cars and slides with LED lights and zip lines and ninja warrior courses and rooms to rent out for birthdays and a cafe and an adult lounge.

This is the 2025 version of Dave and Buster's and Chuck E. Cheese and a theme park and Planet Fun that used to be on Burkmar Drive 20 years ago here in Amaral County. He has got so much on the line for this business he's going to bring to market early 2026, but he was cooler than the other side of the pillow in the words of the late great Stuart Scott. I was very impressed with Dr. Daniel Halpern, the serial entrepreneur. That interview on ilovecville.com or wherever you get your podcasting content. Today's program is going to offer you more breaking news. We had supervisor Ned Galloway on Real Talk with Keith Smith this morning and he offered perspective

on Home Depot and its pursuit of a flagship store in Alamaro County in the old fashion square mall location. He offered us a timeline of what's coming and shared other perspective. And this is from a man who's in Alamaro County Board of Supervisor and whose district, the Rio district, is exactly where the development is happening. So he knows this project better than just about anybody, folks. This is why we elected him into office. We're going to relay that information to you on the I Love Seaville show. Also on today's program, we're going to talk about Almar High School. Teachers, Judah, and students at Almar High School during a trial phase of school resource

officers in the hallway, police officers in the hallway at the largest high school in central Virginia, Elmora High School. They in overwhelming capacity voted in a survey and 85% responded favorably, students and teachers, that police officer in the school in the hallway was something that should be done by Elmar County Public Schools. 85% said it was a positive experience for them to have a police officer in the hallway at the largest school in Central Virginia.

I wanna talk about that on today's program and I wanna say, isn't it about damn time we get the school resource officers back into the hallways of middle schools and high schools across the entire region. Isn't it about damn time we start ignoring the noise from the activists who say that police officers create a pipeline to prison for students? And isn't it about damn time that we return these officers that are not just about law and order but are at

a sounding board, a voice of reason, someone to look up to for many of the middle school and high school students in the area. I mean heck earlier today there was a bomb threat Judah. There was literally a bomb threat in our community. You see that news? Let's weave Judah Wickhauer into the program. Judah Wickhauer the director and producer of this fine and fair talk show. Burleigh Middle School was on lockdown today, literally this morning. Because of a bomb threat, the students at Burleigh Middle School were bused to Monticello High School so that the Albany County Police Department could search for suspicious activity or suspicious bomb materials within Burleigh Middle.

The students were legitimately outside on an athletic field just waiting to get clearance to return back to their classrooms, to their hallways, to their cafeterias. Is it not about damn time we get the school resource officers back into the hallways? We'll talk about that today. We're going to talk on this program experiential businesses that are needed for the community. We got three coming and they're coming within the next year. We got Mike and Jessica Kinnick with Rock Revolution, a bouldering rock climbing gym on old Ivy Road where the Pure Bar exercise studio used to be, kind of across the street

from Davenport Field, from the Dish. That's going to be opening in the very near future. That's an experiential business that's coming to our community. We have Seaville Smash, an indoor pickable concept. Friends of the program, Colleen Cheer, Lauren, Chris Crater, they're going to open this in the old Marshall's location at Seminole Square Shopping Center. We just chatted and are very much getting to know Dr. Daniel Halpert, who's interviewing, who's opening Coco's Adventure Factory in the old Big Lots location.

That's three experiential businesses within the next ten months that are opening in Charlottesville or Almar County. I'm going to ask you, the viewer enlistor, I'm going to ask you, Judah B. Whitcower. What other experiential businesses should open in Alamaro County or in Charlottesville? What other buildings, office, commercial, retail can we convert into experiential businesses, experiential offerings that cannot be cannibalized by the Internet? Can't play pickleball on Amazon. Can't go bould't play pickle ball on Amazon. Can't go bouldering and rock climbing on Amazon. You can't go on a zip line or a Ninja Warrior course, Judah, or a trampoline park on Amazon.

What other experiential businesses should open in this community? I want to have that topic in conversation on today's show. I'm going to ask you a very pointed question. She did a great job developing the site. Her name is Shannon Worrell. Shannon Worrell of the Worrell family locally in this community. You're familiar with the surname Judah Worrell? What notable business did the Worrell family used to own in Charlottesville, Elmorrow County

in central Virginia? They sold it to a major corporate conglomerate who does what a lot of corporate conglomerates do, they suck the life and soul out of the business. That's a huge hint. Man, that's a tough one. I can think of one or two businesses, but I can't place the name. The Warhol family used to own the Charlottesville Daily Progress. Among other media outlets, the Warhol family owned the Daily Progress. Among other media outlets, the Whirl family owned the Daily Progress. Shannon, her family, the caretakers of the newspaper, before they sold the newspaper

to Media General out of Richmond. Media General I used to work for, First job, I actually took the job before my third year at the University of Virginia. Worked there for years, post-school, part-time, full-time, editor, before launching this business, good night. May of 2008, this business is about to celebrate its 17-year anniversary, Judah, on May 29th of this year.

When did the Warorl sell it? The Whorl, I would have to find that, that's a great question, Daily Progress Whorl Family. See if we can figure out when that was sold. The newspaper was, when did the Whorl newspapers, if Neil Williamson, if you're watching the program, that would be a great question. Media General purchased the Daily Progress from the Whirl Family, then they sold it to Warren Buffett's media company. Warren Buffett sold the Daily Progress and a number of other newspapers to Lee Enterprises,

the current owners of the Daily Progress. There's two media companies that are publicly traded that are- I thought it was 95. Whirl Family sold it to media general in 1995 yeah that makes sense I started working for media general in 2002 and when I started working there in 2002 I could already see the slicing and dicing of overhead and just the the soul sucking of a publicly traded company here in Charlottesville there's two publicly

traded companies that own media brands in the greater Charlottesville. There's two publicly traded companies that own media brands in the greater Charlottesville area. Do you know what those two companies are? Media General? Well, no. Media, if you were listening, Media General sold to Buffett Media. Buffett Media sold it to Lee Enterprises.

Lee Enterprises owns the Daily Progress and owns the most amount of newspapers at the Commonwealth of Virginia. Gray Media owns NBC 29. Gray Media and Lee Enterprises have one thing in common. They suck the life out of companies, out of brands, out of staff, out of local publications. They slice and dice staff, they give them limited resources, limited reimbursement for mileage, for food. They cut pages out of publications, they cut newscasts. Gray Media, the owner of MBC 29, and Lee Enterprises, the owner of Daily Progress, those two companies are eroding, crushing local news in this market we call central Virginia, which is 300,000

people strong. Shannon Whirl, she's tied to the Whirl family who own the Daily Progress. The last heyday for the Daily progress was the Whirl family. Ever since the Whirl family exited its position with this brand and publication, the progress has struggled and deteriorated. She is the developer behind the 10th Street Shops, the 10th Street Apartments. The initial flagship tenant was our friend of the program, Curtis Shaver, was texting with him last night. Love dirty Curtis Shaver.

Love that man dearly. His team opened Peloton station. Now it's Guajeros. In that shopping center where Guajeros is currently located, you've had a significant amount of turnover in a very short period of time. In a short period of time, you've seen Peloton become Guajiros.

You've seen Mudhouse close. You've seen the location right next to Mudhouse. Was that a bakery of some kind? Bower Bird also closed in that location. I'm going to ask you, the viewer enlistor, why have the 10th Street shops and that 10th Street development project that Shannon Whirl is the visionary behind why have they had so much significant turnover despite being in the absolute heart of the city of Charlottesville. We'll have that topic on today's show. I want to talk which shopping and dining district will boom next in the Charlottesville-Almer

County area. I'll have a little commentary on Ryan Odom, the VCU head coach. By all accounts, Ryan Odom is the next head coach at the University of Virginia, folks. Media insiders are doubling and tripling down on Ryan Odom, who was a ball boy for Terry Olin. down on Ryan Odom who was a ball boy for Terry Holland. Dave Odom, Ryan's father, was an assistant coach in University Hall under Terry Holland. Ryan Odom grew up as a ball boy on the court at University Hall, U Hall, now torn down, the former site of where Virginia men's basketball played. He also was the head coach of UMBC

who upset the University of Virginia also was the head coach of UMBC, who upset the University of Virginia, which was the greatest upset in NCAA tournament history at 16 over a 1C. Is it a full circle moment that Ryan Odom is now going to be the head men's basketball coach potentially at the University of Virginia? Or some people are saying that UVA is settling,

that this guy's only won one tournament game, one NCAA tournament game, and that one victory was against UVA with his UMBC team. We'll talk about that today. And I want to highlight a fantastic family in this community. One of their four daughters, Belle Dalton, is playing in the US Squash Championship. I want to give a little plug for Belle. Do we have a photo we can put on screen? She's in Philadelphia right now

at the Arland Spector Spector Center, playing in the US junior gold squash championship. St. Ann's Belfield student, Boar's Head Resort, Boar's Head Squash, MacArthur Squash player, Steven O'Dwyer, her head coach. Best of luck to Bell. I love seeing locals do big time things.

Locals doing big time things on a national stage. You kind of were highlighting this. Wasn't there a Charlottesville resident making noise in the White House? Yeah, there was a Charlottesville resident making noise in the White House. I think there was something about about women's sports where they have all the, uh, all the awards. I forget what that was about, but yeah, more recently it was an eight year old man who chained himself up near the White House to protest, uh, defunding the defunding of the veteran, veteran affairs department.

I don't know the exact name, but, and the police let him stay. An 80 year old chained himself outside the White House? Yep, 80 year old veteran, Vietnam veteran from Charlottesville, Richard Hobcraft Allen III. Say that three times fast. I could if you want me to.

I would love to hear you say that three times fast without looking at it. Richard Hobcraft Allen III. Richard Hobcraft Allen III. Richard Hobcraft Allen III. Very nicely done, Judah Wickham. The reign in Spain. He chains himself outside the White House. Had his hands inside a pipe with a sign that read, King Trump and President Musk are killing veterans.

Very curious to see what happens to the Musk gallery that opens in Stonefield, guys, and how the community responds to that. He was protesting cuts to the Department of Veteran Affairs. And yeah, there are whispers of, I think, people planning on protesting the entire Stonefield if Tesla moves in there. But as I think has been noted, it's probably out of management's hands by this point as there's likely been a lease already signed.

MBC 29, guys. This from Bill McChesney has gotten so bad. He says the NewsPlex is absolutely eating their lunch. Neither is fantastic. But I will concur with William McChesney that the news plex CBS 19 is putting on a better news product than NBC 29 right now. And woe have the tables have turned because NBC 29 was the market news leader for generations. Now gray media owns them and they have become a shadow of their former selves.

Let's get to the lead topic on today's program. Supervisor Ned Galloway, on Real Talk with Keith Smith earlier today, I've said on this network that one of the most influential developers in all of Alomar County is a Fortune 100 company named Home Depot. Home Depot was granted a boatload of tax breaks by Almar County.

And part of that agreement where Home Depot gets tax breaks, they own Fashion Square Mall except for the J.C. Penney, which is owned by Richard Hewitt, a real estate magnate in Charlottesville and Almar County, and Belk. Belk is owned by their corporate entity. Okay? The rest of Fashion Square Mall is owned by Home Depot. Home Depot gets tax breaks from Malmoral. In exchange for those tax breaks, those tax advantages from Malmoral County, Home Depot is responsible for opening its hardware store

before December ends in 2025. They are, according to Ned Galloway, well ahead of that schedule. Home Depot is also responsible for revitalizing the mall and revitalizing the Red Lobster restaurant next to the mall. On real talk this morning, Ned Galloway offered some insight into what Home Depot is doing at Fashion Square Mall, including some insight into the timeline of development. Do you have that sound ready to go? Give us that sound. This is Ned Galloway, Rio District Supervisor on the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors. His district is right

where Fashion Square Mall and Home Depot's project is located within. Ned Galloway in 3, 2 and 1. The more ‑‑ the ones we'll see get online that will make a difference, Fashion Square Mall. If you looked at the assessed value of Fashion Square Mall compared to 10 and 12 years ago, we've lost a ton of revenue as that site has done nothing but decline. So we're turning that around right now, right? Home Depot is going to be ‑‑ I hear they're going to be open by July now, I think somebody said. They have to be open by Christmas of this year based on tax or an incentive that we gave them to help get the to get it built. Good for Albemarle County because it meant that they were going to open sooner.

We also got an easement for about what 95 percent of a road realignment that we're interested in doing behind the mall on Hillsdale Drive and that would have cost $8, $9, $10 million in today's dollars. Who knows what it would cost in five years or ten years. So when that Home Depot opens, we've got the public safety center over there on the other side that a different owner owns, the old J.C. Penney site. Belk has got its own little thing. But Home Depot now or Home Depot will own most of that property. And once they get the box store open, then they have to go, all right, now what are we going to do and redevelop? And if they make some efforts to achieve our small area plan, then you can start to see some mixture of retail and residential. And I hear Home Depot has

done some of that in other places. They're not just box store. They do other types of developments. Nick Galloway, ladies and gentlemen, on Real Talk with Keith Smith this morning, he says I hear Home Depot open by July. That's great news. Great news. He highlighted in the show this morning the impact of having Home Depot and the Fashion Square Mall project finish. This is significant tax revenue that is missing from Alamaro County right now. Significant revenue that's missing right now.

Having that Fashion Square Mall site be a what, a ghost town, a shanty town? I mean, how do you describe the Fashion Square Mall site as just completely empty? I mean, you may remember I went and took photos of the mall back when there were still shops there, and it was a ghost town. I can't imagine what it looks like now. Do they even bother to turn the lights on?

Great question. July, ladies and gentlemen, a little piece of fresh news for you that will hit the legacy and media cycles because I see the legacy and old media watching us right now on the I Love Seaville show. This is the, you can make a convincing argument, one of the most significant development projects in all of Alamaro County, the sixth largest county in the Commonwealth of Virginia. The gateway, maybe the most important gateway in Almarra County. What would be a more important gateway in Almarra County than the Rio small area plan,

the Rio Road corridor? Do we make an argument that coming into Pantops is a more significant gateway than Rio? I do not. Do you? No, I wouldn't. I mean we saw what happened, we've seen what happens to restaurants that settle at the top of the hill, right? Lonnie Murray, what's the most significant gateway into Alamoro County? Is it the Rio gateway? Is it the Ivy Western gateway that's the most significant? Is it the gateway from Nelson County, Afton and to Crozet that's the most significant? Is it Southside Charlottesville Gateway that's the most significant? Fifth Street Station, Avon Extended, that urban

ring entry corridor by Mill Creek and Redfields and Mosby Mountain, Lake Renovia, is that the most significant? I am convinced the most significant and noteworthy gateway into Alamaro County, the one of the most prestige and importance, notoriety, most vehicle traffic, most eyeballs, is the Rio Gateway. It's the gateway to UVA in a lot of ways. It's the Forest Lakes-Holly Mead gateway and corridor. There's a boatload of residential housing there. And a Fortune 100 company, I mean, is Home Depot a Fortune 50 company?

Home Depot, Fortune, let's see, Fortune 50. They may be even a Fortune 500 company. I'll give you the Fortune 500 right now. Home Depot is ‑‑ you see if you can figure that one out for me, Jude. I'm getting in the weeds right there. I would say it's at least a Fortune 100. Their project of taking the Red Lobster and the Mall and turning into something is one of the most significant development projects we've had in Almar County in some time. And that's bananas to stay because we're entrusting an out of market entity that's publicly traded traded that does not have ties to our community to really determine the face or the brand of an entry point to Almar. But that's the trust the the Supes have put into Home Depot. July is the expectation. All right, give me that tidbit once you have it, if you could, Judith. Home Depot is in the top 50 of the Fortune 500.

It's a Fortune 50 company. A Fortune 50 company right there. James Watson watching the program, his photo on screen, someone should open a simple sports bar in the old Red Lobster location. Simple concept with screens, burgers, wings and beers. Plenty of potential customers between Delora, Greenbrier, plus all the 29 traffic. That could be an interesting answer for the question that we're going to ask later in the show.

What experiential business is missing from Charlottesville and Almar County? James says 29 is the most significant. It leads from the airport to DC and back. 1000% agree with James Watson. 99.9% of the time, I find myself in alignment and agree with James Watson. 99.9% of the time I find myself in alignment and agreement with James Watson. I sincerely mean that. A smart dude. I sincerely mean that, James. Think about the sports concept, the experiential concept. Now, people are going to say, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. A sports bar is not an experiential concept. But what if the sports bar was combined with sports aspects?

Tell me why we don't have a top golf in Alamaro County. Why is there no top golf concept somewhere in this area with the money and the wealth we have? There's top golf everywhere. Why not here? Why does someone not create a sports bar concept with a golf or with ping pong or with darts? You know how much it costs to go bowling, a family of four,

to bowl two rounds, two games? We're talking over $100, $150, ladies and gentlemen, depending on the time of day. Dairy Market is trying to get into the experiential concept with the duck pin bowling judo in the old south and central location. We'll save that topic for later in the show. What's experiential concept is missing from the area? There's three opening in the next ten months. Rock Revolution on Old Ivy Road,

bouldering and rock climbing. Seaville Smash indoor pickleball at the old Marshall's location in Seminole Square. And we also have Coco's Adventure Factory, an indoor adventure entertainment center opening early next year. Next topic I want to cover on the program, Judy B. Wickow or Jack of all wits,

and I'm very curious of your opinion on this. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts on this as well. How about the survey results from Alamaro County, Alamaro High School? There's a test period that's going on, and a school board member, Dr. Kate Acuff, highlighted these results.

There's a pilot program going on at Almaro High School, as you get that lower third on screen. A school resource officer, what's another name for a school resource officer, Judah? SRO. That's an acronym. What's another name for them? Police officer in the school. That's a school resource officer.

Hall monitor? A police officer in the school. Almaro school resource officer. Hall monitor. A police officer in the school. Almaro High School is doing a pilot program. Listen to the survey results from a 2024 survey that was just released. 800 Almaro High School students were surveyed. 85% of that 800 students think a police officer in the hallways is a good thing and it makes them feel safe at school.

Teachers also equally on board. You have a pilot program at the largest high school in central Virginia, the school in a lot of ways that has a lot of, you know, Charlottesville High School and Almaro High School are the two schools that have the most, you know, how do I put it in perspective? Challenges, okay, I'll use the word challenges. 800 kids surveyed, the teachers surveyed, 85% say, please, dear God, give us the police officer in the school. 85%, ladies and gentlemen.

It's about darn time we listen to students and teachers who are in the hallways every day and they're begging us through this survey to bring the officers back to the hallways. You okay, Judah? I'm trying not to sneeze. Okay. 85% plus. Why do we not roll this out across all the other schools?

I'll catch heat for that. People say pipeline to prison, Jerry. Pipeline to prison. Pipeline to prison. Police officers have all the other schools. I'll catch heat for that. People say pipeline to prison, Jerry, pipeline to prison, pipeline to prison. Police officers have no role in schools. I don't buy that. We just had a bomb threat at Burleigh Middle School this morning. I wonder if those assertions are manufactured? Of course it's manufactured. It's manufactured another name for manipulation? Possibly. Abusing the narrative? I don't know about that.

The kids and the students want the police in school. Yeah. Should we be listening to the kids and the teachers? Or should we be listening to a group of activists that say this is bad, bad, bad, bad? I would, I mean... 85%. I'm with you.

I agree that they're a good thing. I think that, you know, it's better than having to call the cops and bring them... Police officers. ... police officers and bring them storming into a school. I think that's far more disruptive than having someone who is actually there on a regular basis, knows the students, knows the teachers. I would like to see proof that SROs are disruptive or in any way contributing to the supposed pipeline to jail that some

people assert is the problem. Put them in the schools folks. Let's put them in the schools. Let's get over the situation. If there's the situation. I've been here 25 years in August. I've called Charlottesville and Amar County my home for 25 years this August. I came here as a first year at the University of Virginia. I've gone from a first year student at University of Virginia to a married man and father of two and a business owner that's 17 years into his self-employment journey

in May of this year. I've grown up in this community. And my entire 25 years in this community, I've never seen the community more fragile when it comes to gun violence than it is right now. We had Almara County Commonwealth's Attorney, Jim Hingley, on the program, what, last week, the week before? Mr. Hingley's office is transitioning in

some parts and putting more of a focus or emphasis on personnel and priorities with gun violence crime. He said that in our interview. Almaro County, Crozet, Harris Teeter, father killed, retired nurse practitioner killed by a mentally ill, mentally troubled 25, 28 year old that was known as the gentle giant in the community of Crozet. We have gun violence concerns. And one of the ways to appease or solve or alleviate or manage is by having more eyeballs on site, more boots on the street.

And that absolutely includes our schools. Yeah, it also relieves teachers of being forced to, you forced to take on that role, which they really shouldn't have to do. Kate Sharts, queen of Ivy, watching the program, her photo on screen, when she leaves a comment, I read it on air immediately. She says, if they don't listen to the survey results, she highlights the fact that Merriweather Lewis Elementary, more than 90% of those that were surveyed, parents, teachers and others, said keep the name Merriweather and they did not listen. I think with school rebranding, it's a fair point that Kate is making. Thank you for making the point, Kate. School rebranding, Superintendent Matthew Haas and the school board ignored survey results. Did a lot more than that. When it comes to school resource officers in schools, that's completely different category of

ignoring. If you ignore students and teachers when it comes to saying yes to a police officer in the school because of safety concerns. That is malpractice and negligence. Especially if something eventually happens that could have been prevented by the presence of an S.O. Bingo. And we've had enough violence in this community, folks. Sandra McDaniel watching the program.

I love the idea of the police resource officers in schools. Sandra McDaniel, if you have her photo on screen, I think they contribute a lot to the students and to the schools, leads to a much safer environment, amen. Georgia Gilmer watching the program. So they can do the opposite of what the police that elected them want. She's highlighting the fact that they ignore,

the school boards ignored survey results. School board, learn from your predecessors. They ignored survey results. School board, learn from your predecessors. They ignored survey results, school board members, and that type of governance created a sense of lacking trust, disingenuous governance. And that's not what we need right now with this community reeling with vulnerability, whether it's Naim Hill, whether it's Justin Barber, whether it's a guy that's carrying a knife and stabbing people outside of a church,

whether it's the murder of three UVA football players on grounds, and the healing that's still being done A11 and A12, post A11 and A12. Elliot Harding watching the program. Love Elliot Harding. Talented defense attorney. Yeah, they don't want a school shooting. Every, let me get to his comment.

Comments are coming in quickly here. I just slid down the page for me. Elliot, I'm going to get to your comment. When he leaves a comment, I read it live on air immediately. Elliot says, yeah, they don't want a school shooting. Every school should have an armed and well-trained officer sitting in a room, buzzing people in and out, just sitting in the lunch area in case there's a fight.

The issues come up when they start nitpicking on minor stuff, but generally we need security in schools responsive versus affirmative policing. Amen, brother. Great points. Fantastic points from Elliott Harding. We got to get him back on the program. 100 percent agree with that comment. 100% agree.

Put the metal detectors at the schools, too. I was just going to mention the metal detectors. Why are the metal detectors at athletic events, but they're not at the entry to the schools where there's the most amount of human bodies located? Makes no sense to me. You walk through a metal detector at a football and basketball game, at a baseball game, but you. You walk through a metal detector at a football and basketball game, at a baseball game,

but you don't walk through a metal detector when you go to schools. It's just idiocy. Idiocy. Next headline, Judah Wickarow, what do you got? Next up, we have the UVA Board of Visitors pushing back on tuition increase. Good. I applaud the Board of Visitors pushing back on tuition increase. Good.

I applaud the Board of Visitors here. Glenn Youngkin has 13 appointments on the Board of Visitors. Yeah. How much longer could the University of Virginia continue to raise tuition on students? They were going to. No, I know they were going to.

The folks that operate the university students. They were going to. Oh, I know they were going to. The folks that operate the university were saying we want tuition increases. They're making it with these tuition increases where it's only the 1% that can attend a public university, the flagship university of the Commonwealth, is not a university that's intended for only the wealthy. If you want a university that's intended for only the wealthy and for 1% in the Commonwealth of Virginia, University of Richmond is a good one. Great school, University of Richmond. You've got to have a boatload of money to get into the University of Richmond. Washington and Lee is another one. You've

got to have a boatload of money to go to W and L. Hampton Sydney is another example of a very expensive college to attend. Hampton Sydney College. Okay? But a public university, a public university that relies on funding from the commonwealth should be a university that opens its doors to the entire socioeconomic student spectrum. And by raising rates to levels that only the wealthy can afford, we are creating an old

boys and old gals school of wealth. So, Yonkin basically canned the, what was it, he canned the use of, oh, what was it, I'm sorry, my mind is drawing a blank. No idea what you're saying. I know. It will come back to me. Canned the use of what? Diversity equity and inclusion? No.

Something else. I'm drawing a blank. The university guide service? They were actually, no. In December the board actually approved a 3% increase in the base tuition for in and out of state undergraduates. Now that the political climate has changed in the Board of Visitors, they're asking for, they want to take a deep dive into the budget numbers and are looking to have cuts

in the administrative overhead and freeze tuition. Here's a tip for the University of Virginia. Unbloat the payroll. Chop the payroll down. Figure out a way to make the school run more efficiently with less administrative bloat. How's that for a solution? It's always good. It's not just charge more and more, because the kids you're admitting into the school are just wealthy kids. And if you don't think that has an impact on Charlottesville and Alamo County, you're not reading the tea leaves correctly.

By only admitting wealthy students to the University of Virginia, that means the folks that control the housing, the landlords around the area, can jack up rents to whatever they want because they know the parents of the kids can afford it. And when the landlords around the University of Virginia can, and I have no problem with jacking up the rent, that's the free market. I'm a landlord. We have 24 tenants. That's the name of the game. But if the University of Virginia is only going to cater to a wealthy student body, that means the landlords can continue charging whatever they want. And that creates rental comps.

And those rental comps start dictating the pace and the rents for all of Alamore and Charlottesville. There's a reason the villas at Southern Ridge was a good chunk of the villas at Southern Ridge. was a good chunk of the bills at Southern Ridge, 101 units were purchased by Levy & Co., a real estate company out of Henrico, Virginia. There's a reason Barracks West was purchased by an out of market real estate company. There's a reason Cav Crossing was purchased by a Northern Virginia real estate company. We had three prominent real estate purchases made within the last 12 months, ladies and gentlemen.

And why are these out of market companies, ladies and gentlemen, buying Charlottesville and Almaro County positions? Why did Barrick's West End Apartments and Townhomes, 324 units, why were they purchased for $56,750,000 by Northern Virginia's West End Capital Group in February of 2025? We broke that news here on the I Love Seaville Show. Why was the Vils at Southern Ridge, 101 of 240 units, purchased for $11 million by Henrico Counties, Levee and Company in November of 2024? We broke that news on the I Love Seaville

show. And why was Cavalier Crossing, all 144 units, purchased for $20,500,000 by Bonaventure Multifamily Income Trust out of Northern Virginia, news broken by Seaville Tomorrow? Because these out-of-market companies know that the University of Virginia is choosing a student body of one percenters. Why is National Development Company subtext building 1,300 plus beds on Stadium Road? Because they know the University of Virginia is only admitting wealthy one percenters. Why is Grey Star building 500 units down Ivy Road by St. Anne's's Belfield and across from Bel Air, the

neighborhood, because they know the University of Virginia is admitting wealthy students. It's in tremendous ripple effect by only having the one percenters here in Charlottesville with Mercedes and BMWs and mommy and daddy's black AMX. I salute the Board of Visitors. This is not about politics. This is not about conservatism, liberalism. This is not about Yonkin. But since Yonkin's had 13 of 17 appointments on the Board of Visitors, we've seen a lot

of changes at the University of Virginia. We saw a significant investigation that led to the surprise resignation of CEO Craig Kent, the head of the UVA health system. We saw an investigative report that still the community hasn't seen when it's tied to the triple murder of three Virginia football players. We saw an investigation that's currently happening right now with the pro-Palestine pepper spraying protest in May of last year. This board of visitors does not mess around. And this board of visitors vision for the university

is extremely different than the vision of the head honchos of the University of Virginia. That's why you saw the Jim Ryan's lieutenant, the provost of UVA, just leave for Middlebury College. Is that the one in Vermont? You helping me with that, Judah? Is Middlebury in Vermont? Middlebury College in Middlebury, Vermont.

He goes and takes that job. This guy leaves the number two position at the University of Virginia to go be the president at Middlebury College in Vermont, where it's single digits on a nice day. Oh, come on. Is the president of Middlebury College a vertical move versus provost at the University of Virginia?

A genuine question for you. With everything going on at UVA right now, I would think just about anything is a step up. Here's the extremely interesting thing. Ian Balcom is going to be the president of Middlebury College, right? If you were to Google UVA provost office, Ian Balcom's name shows up on the Google rank for provost

at the University of Virginia. Here's a tip, UVA. And Judah and I do this. Our firm does this professionally for a living here. Work with your keywords and your metadata and how you are coding and managing the back end of your website. So Ian Balcom is not showing up when you Google provost UVA. Because he's now the president of Middlebury College.

This is where Judah is going to say, oh, it takes a while for Google to crawl websites and make this metadata change. That's what you're going to say, right? It's the truth. It's been a while. If you click Ian Balcom's page here, it goes to a page request could not be found. Is that a 404?

Yeah. Unbelievable. Is that a vertical move going from executive vice president and provost to president of Middlebury College or is that a lateral move at best? Is that Ian reading the tea leaves saying this board of visitors is going to be here for a while, I need to get the hell out of Dodge before they push me out of Dodge? That's a question for the viewer and listener. Cocktail fodder for your cocktail party. Jerry, from John Blair, his photo on screen, asked, to the experiential opportunities, are there any nightclubs for dancing? It's really strange for an area the size of Charlottesville not to have a true nightclub.

Lonnie Murray's photo on screen. I don't think we have him. Lonnie Murray says, we've got to get Lonnie Murray on the ranking there. He's a very influential viewer and listener, whose opinion I respect. He says, I'd like to see a guide service that takes people on outdoor adventures. That's a great idea, Lottie.

There's a lot that Charlottesville is like. That is a genius idea, Lottie Murray. An omniexperiential business where it's a guide service that they can lead guides, lead hiking like Walnut Creek or Crabtree Falls or Biscuit Run or lead mountain biking, jaunts on O'Hill or Prettie Creek. Is there a spot, this is a genuine business for the viewers and listeners. This is why people pay us $2.95 an hour to come to this office, to sit at our desk and pick our brains on how they could

gain market share or launch brands, figure out spaces for them to grow their businesses into, acquire real estate, get funding to grow their business. This is what we do. It is not podcasting. We enjoy doing this., creates deal flow, but this is not in the top five of what we do. What we do is help businesses gain share from competitors and grow. Is there a spot where my family or me and my friends can go to a location and get intel maps or have an individual that's an expert lead us on a hiking excursion of Crabtree Falls or a mountain biking trip at O'Hill or Preddy Creek or Walnut Creek or Ragged Branch? Is there an outdoor business service guide that you can go somewhere and someone at a location

will give you insight and expertise into the area. Why does that business not exist? With the mountain biking trails that are out there, the hiking trails that are out there, the water that's around the area. Is that your next omni-experiential business for this area? Think about the little overhead you need to operate that business. People are like, how is this business successful? You want to know how this business is successful?

I'm going to explain to the viewers and listeners how the Miller organization is successful. Well, we own the real estate our business is in, so we're paying rent to our real estate company. Our overhead is human labor. That guy right there, extremely expensive. You're looking at it on screen. Well deserved. You're a talented individual on screen. Well deserved.

You're a talented individual. Expensive, but talented. Our overhead is labor. We're not selling widgets. We're not selling burgers or steaks or shrimp or scampi. I'm not selling stuff on a shelf. Not selling cars. We get mailbox money from 24 tenants on the first of the month, percentage of the deals that we put together and we charge an hourly rate

that justifies our talent. That's a company. This outdoor company can do a similar thing. They don't even need to stock the bikes, Judah. And if they did stock the bikes ‑‑ Why wouldn't they need to stock the bikes? Because people have mountain bikes. Some people. If they want to go on a mountain biking excursion, they can do as an additional profit center, rent the bike for $100 a day from the company.

They can spend $1,500 on the bike, $2,000 on the trek, $2,500 on the specializer, whatever the hell these mountain bikes cost. How much is a 29‑inch ‑‑ it's got to be a 29‑inch tire because those are easier to navigate. What you say, Curtis Shaver? It's got to be a 29‑inch tire. How much is a 29‑er trek run these days? A couple grand? You buy a trek for a couple grand and you rent it out for $100 a day for the people who need it? You take one of your guides and do a hiking excursion or a mountain biking excursion?

Will you end it with beers at a brewery or wine at a winery, you just don't need a lot of overhead to run this business. They all sign waivers that there's no liability tied to the business. Borced actually has some of this. Our son is doing one of these this summer at the Borced Adventure Center. Borced Outdoors. The outdoor outfitters. He's doing an outdoor camp with these folks. But that's not open to the public. You know how much that outdoor camp is for a week? Credit card literally just got billed for that. I outdoor camp for the week. 500 bucks. Yesterday when we were talking with Dr. Daniel Halpert, which lower third do you have on screen? The lower third you should have on screen right now is experiential business ideas for the civil area. That's

the one you have. Excellent work. Yesterday when we were talking with Daniel Halpert, the doctor about Coco's Adventure Park, he was talking about you know how much it costs to have a birthday for kids? I was like, well, surprisingly I do. My six-year-old is turning seven on the 20th of March. And he had two options for his birthday. He made a grown up decision. My wife and I said we can have a birthday for you and 19 of your closest friends, 20 kids, and we can do the Nerf gun battle. I mean, it's his class. We can do a Nerf gun battle where they shoot Nerf gun darts at each other for 90 minutes and then go have a birthday party in a room for 30 minutes where we celebrate you and

eat cake. The cost to my wife and I for that two hour period, $700. $700. Wouldn't it be cheaper just to buy your own guns? Then where are you going to do it if you buy your own guns? Through the mail slot. You're going to buy 20 Nerf guns? How much?

That's perfect. If you want to just leave it right there. Yeah, thank you. If you're going to buy 20 Nerf guns, how much do 20 Nerf guns cost? Less than $700? I don't think so. You don't think so? I don't think so. 20 Nerf guns. I would say those are $40 a piece. That's $800. How much do you think 20 Nerf guns cost?

20, let's go. Nerf gun, what am I even looking for? Shooters? Nerf gun shooters, 15, 18 bucks a shooter, and these are the piece of crap ones. They're easily 20 dollars a shooter. The ones they have are like the big super so-crypt type shooters that look super cool and fire the Nerf dart like 30 yards. I mean I'm seeing Nerf shooters for 15, 20 dollars. Okay I just said 20 dollars 20. That's for the big one. Okay so let's go 15. Alright can we go 20? For a handgun one. Okay so 20 times 20. 400 bucks. Okay so 400 bucks right? Yeah.

Okay. If you get the biggest ones. Then you get, how much is the cake going to cost? I can't remember the last time I bought a cake. I'd say a cake is 50 bucks. There's 450, right? Where are you going to do it? Park? Okay. Let's say you do it.

Backyard? You got a giant backyard. We have four acres. At minimum, if you do it in the way you're talking, it's $450. But you can do that every year. For $450. We're going to store the Nerf guns? What are you going to do?

Throw them away when you're done with a day of using them? $450 for $700 and they do it all for you. And you do absolutely nothing. And it's a controlled environment. You have a party room and you don't have to have 20 rugrats at your house. You've got an adult decision to make. Value proposition. My point is this. My point is this. Our son said I'm going to pass on that opportunity. Instead I want you to have a day that's all about me with grandma and grandpa coming. Mom and dad spoil us. I want to go to my favorite place. He loves the pretzels at Mellow Mushroom. He wants Pokemon graded Charizard, which I'm on the hunt for a

graded Pokemon Charizard now. I had to go to Richmond for one. I now have to get him another one. Jim Hingley offering some perspective here. Thank you Jim Hingley. I sincerely appreciate you. He says Ian Balcombe takes office at Middlebury on the 1st of July according to the Middlebury website. He says, Ian Balcom takes office at Middlebury on the 1st of July, according to the Middlebury website. He stepped down at UVA this month, but it does take some time to reflect this on the website. And he agrees with you, Jude, on this. That it takes...Jude was right, Jim. You're 100% right. It takes a while for Google to update the metadata on a website. This is the business, literally, that we're in. We're going through this right now. Are we not? We don't have to say that...

It can take weeks. We don't have to say the development firm that we're about. It can take weeks and it's... We're literally doing this with the developer right now. You're at Google's mercies because sometimes it's got everything that it's supposed to have and it still hasn't changed anything. Yeah, right. It literally can take a long time. So to Jim Hinchley's point, to Judah Wickar's point, you're right, it could take a while.

I do find it odd that Ian Balcom is still on the university website. Is he still on the website, though? You found a 404 page. It's the metadata. You're right. The bio's been taken down. But the Google crawl hasn't completely removed him from search. It shows you the metadata. You're right. The bio has been taken down. But the Google crawl hasn't completely

removed him from search. It shows you the value. This is what we're talking about with the developer. It shows you the value of the search ranking right there. I still am of the mindset that he leaves as provost and executive vice president of one of the most noteworthy universities in the world, because he sees that the politics of the Board of Visitors is changing and he's very much

in the crossfire. Like what's Balcom's job security if Jim Ryan gets bounced? He's probably also, if he doesn't already have a head full of gray hairs, he's probably producing them at a higher than standard rate. I got a head full of gray hairs just from talking about the craziness around UVA. I know. Imagine being the executive.

Look at this. I know, me too. Imagine being the executive vice president who has to manage the craziness at UVA. We're just talking about it and we're getting gray hairs. Isn't it weird, the older you get, the less hair you have on your head and the more hair you have in your nose,

your back and in your ears. Is that God playing a weird trick on us? You're gonna get older, the hair is gonna go away from your head and it's gonna go inside your ears, inside your nose and on your back. It's gonna disappear from where you want it and appear everywhere else.

What the hell is that? I think it's to keep us humble. Is that what it is? Yeah. It's exactly what it is. Jeez Louise. My dad's got a great poem about that. A great poem about nose hair?

About staying humble. Oh, that was a poem about... As you age. It's nose hair? About staying humble. Oh. That was a poem about nose hair. No. Oh, Lonnie Murray. Lonnie, we need to get Lonnie Murray's photo for the screen. He says, I imagine cross marketing with other tourism opportunities so you spend one day at Monticello, go kayaking the next day, then go on a rock climbing, go to Market Street

Camp. There's Rob Stockhausen. He's looking for the spectacle shop, I believe, over here. One of the most noteworthy commercial brokers in the area. Do we see him? Is he pounding on the door over there? Is he pounding on the door? No, no, no. I just, he hasn't reappeared. I'm wondering what he's up to. That's not him. There he goes.

We're stopped. what he's up to. That's not him. There he goes. They can see him in the left‑hand side of the screen. A talented pickle ball player, Rob Stockhausen, one of the most noteworthy commercial brokers in the area, right outside the Idleb Seaville studio. There he is right there. Always dressed well. He's got some Ray Bans on. Look at him. Dress well. He's a great pickleball player. I think he might find the Glasses shop. Yeah, he's looking for the Spectacle shop. It happens all the time. This is another example of Google mismanagement. This is literally part of what our firm does is provide strategies

of how you can gain market share. One of the strategies you should realize is the importance of Google. The Spectacle shop, which I love, owned by John Bright, friend of the program, it's got a pin on Google Maps that is not on its exact location. And Judah and I probably see a dozen times a week people going, what, 50 feet in the wrong direction of Spectacle Shop? Oh, there's... They come into here and say, can I buy some Ray-Bans?

I'm like, dude, do you see any Dolce and Gabbana and Versace frames in here? Do you see any Revo or Ray-Bans in here? All we got is Judah. We don't have any... Nice to meet you, man. Yeah, it's, it's wild. We've had people come in here from, from, like, companies that were looking in looking for. I don't know if it was water lines or power line.

I don't know. But anyways, they're like, well, it says here that the such and such for this building is ‑‑ and we're like, no, sorry. But I think that goes more to show that Google is not all powerful. And ‑‑ No, Google is only as good as the user. Google is all powerful. You just have to use it the right way. You were just talking about how Google is wrong in a lot of places. But with this particular map issue, they can change the map and eventually would be updated.

Eventually. Yeah, eventually. They just haven't done it. This has been going on for years. Years we've seen these people come in here. We have one of our properties that has the pin like around the corner. Which one is that? I don't remember which one. What? I didn't know this. Which one is that? I don't remember. We have one of our properties not pinned correctly on the map? I'm pretty sure. You haven't fixed that? I don't know that it's necessarily like one of ours.

I just mean like something from the Macklin building is pinging like right around the corner. Okay, well that's news to me. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I will take a look at that after the show. All right, it's 1.40. take a look at that after the show. All right. It's 1.40. We got to go make some money here.

What other topics do we have on the program here? Do you know why there's been so much turnover at the Temps Street shops at Shannon Wurls development? Do we straight up attribute it to parking, Judah? Peloton station is Guajiros. Mudhouse can't make it over there. You know what. Mudhouse can't make it over there. You're what? Mudhouse could not make it over there.

That's damning that Mudhouse, a beloved brand, could not make it there. Why so much turnover at the 10th Street shops? I think Charlottesville is just an odd place. I've said this before it so much of Charlottesville does not make sense to me and It just doesn't feel I don't know cohesive maybe okay Succinct answer here that was cohesive. I mean succinct you're saying that Temp Street shops are not making it because Charlottesville is not cohesive Yeah, I how about this for a succinct answer Temp Street shops are not making it because Charlottesville's not cohesive? Yeah.

How about this for a succinct answer? I've been there when I- The Temp Street shops aren't making it because there's not enough parking at the Temp Street shops. Maybe. I don't know that I fully- I don't know that I agree with that. You don't agree with that? Viewers and listeners, do you agree with that? Georgia Gilmer absolutely attributes it to parking. It's still no matter what livable Charlottesville wants to do, no matter what the Gilligan gang wants to do,

it's still a vehicle, automobile, car, and truck centric community. Oh, 100 percent. If Charlottesville't terrible for walking and bike. Exactly okay I just that's it's as clear as day to me. You've had Munt House, you've had a bread company, you've had a bakery, you've had a restaurant, all turnover there. All turnover. Kate people are boycotting Stonefield because of the Tesla Elon Musk gallery that is coming. Kate asked that question. It hasn't even arrived yet.

And it's already begun. It doesn't get exhausting having all these boycotts and all this ‑‑ I'm not going to support it. I imagine it must get exhausting. Isn't it exhausting? Doing all this protesting? Doesn't it make you so bitter and angry? All this boycotting and protesting? Don't you get ‑‑ Angry and hateful. Do you just want to not sit on the recliner and kick your feet up and drink an emperor of clouds and eat a steak and cheese from Bagby's while watching 1923 season 2 on Paramount Plus? I mean that's what I would do.

Jeez Louise. All right we're 70 minutes in here without stopping we got to make some money here. What any other topics we got here? What's the next shopping and dining district that's gonna boom? You put that on screen. What shopping and dining district will boom next? Front of the program, Terry Hinderman, the mayor of Frye Springs. He's got a touch of a jeweler on a double squash court and he owns a fair amount of real estate in this community.

I love you, Terry Hinderman. I hope people that listen to this show pass this message on to you. I love you, Terry Hinderman, the mayor of Frye Springs. He owns Frye Springs Station, the real estate, where Pineapple Pizza is, and he owns the Maury Avenue Shopping Center, where the donut shop is, and the bike shop,

where Anna's Pizza used to be. I am gonna make a prediction. The next shopping and dining district that's gonna boom is that entire JPA Fry Springs corridor. When the Biotech Research Park is finished, funded by $100 million from billionaire Paul Manning, the father-in-law of Chris Henry, the developer behind Stony Point and Dairy Market.

Once the Biotech School at Fontaine is finished, you're gonna have an additional few thousand people working there at high dollar salaries. Frye Springs, the neighborhood, is gentrified big time over the 25 years I've been here, and it is a neighborhood of the wealthy, all within walking distance here. I predict that Frye Springs quarter

is gonna have massive success. Massive success as a shopping and dining district. I can see that. Massive success. Two more headlines. Ryan Odom is scuttle-butted as the next head coach of UVA. This guy was a ball boy at the University of Virginia because his father, Dave Odom, was an assistant coach under Terry Holland,

the head coach of the men's basketball team at one time. So the guy who is front and center as the replacement for Ron Sanchez and Tony Bennett is the current head coach of VCU, Virginia Commonwealth University. His name is Ryan Odom. This could be a full circle moment, as Elliot Harding said yesterday.

He goes from adolescent ball boy at University Hall, his dad and assistant coach on the staff, to head coach of the team. Haters or naysayers are pointing to the fact that Ryan Odom only has one NCAA tournament win and that was when he was the head coach of UMBC. And UMBC beat whom, Judah? Beaten which team? UVA? UVA.

And the greatest upset in NCAA March Madness history. Really? Folks are saying we're hiring a guy that's only got one tournament ring on his resume. But it's a banger. It is a banger. It's an absolute banger. Unfortunately, it's a banger. You're absolutely right.

Great use of the word banger. And we'll close the program with some love for Belle Dalton. She is playing the St. Ann's-Belfield student, the MacArthur Squash Center talent, one of the best players under friend of the program, Stephen O'Dwyer's Squash program. Belle Dalton is playing in the US Squash Championship in Philadelphia, I believe, as we speak. Nothing but love and the best of luck for Belle Dalton is playing in the U.S. Squash Championship in Philadelphia, I believe as we speak.

Nothing but love and the best of luck for Bell Dalton. She is a baller, she's a scrapper, she's competitive. Her photo on screen, she is a fighter, she has hustle, she has chutzpah, she has grit, she hits clean lines and clean rails, hits a beautiful squash ball, and she is just a competitor of significant talents. Wish her the best of luck as we champion and celebrate anyone from the Charlottesville area that's doing something on a national stage that's positive for our community. I thought Judah Wickauer was on point today.

My name is Jerry Miller, and that's 75 minutes of the water cooler of Charlottesville in central Virginia. And it's called the I Love Seaville Show. So long, everybody...