The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Neil Williamson Data On AlbCo Housing Shortage; How Housing Shortage Is Impacting All Of Us

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

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Welcome to the I Love Seville show. Thank you kindly for joining us. My name is Jerry Miller. It is Tuesday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville, our studio in the shadows of Thomas Jefferson's University of Virginia, less than two miles from the Rotunda, the John Paul Jones Arena in Scott Stadium. A hop, skip, and a jump from the Charlottesville Police Department. We just saw Chief Katchus walking in front of the studio prior to the show starting. Chief Katchus freshly manicured a fresh haircut for the George Clooney of policing, a fan I'm a huge fan fan of Chief Katchus. I saw him out there the other day.

Are you on a two-shot? Not yet. Are you doing the voice of God? Just a second, I'm trying to adjust. I very much want people to see the face when the Judah voice comes onto the talk show so you don't come across as the voice of God. You saw Chief Katchus the other day.

Yeah, I was taking Liza outside, and he complimented me on Liza. And it turns out he was picking up some Haribo gummy bears at the grocery store for his wife. He said she only likes the one brand. Oh, very nice. That's some intel right there. I like Haribo gummy bears.

And he gave Liza some loving. Curtis Shaver, are you watching the program today? Curtis Shaver is a huge fan of gummy bears and gummies altogether. Curtis Shaver loves Haribo gummy bears. Why don't we get Curtis' photo, if we could, on screen. The great Giardini will be on the program tomorrow with sidekick Bubini. Part of Giardini's outfit includes a tank top that pays homage to friend of the program, Curtis Shaver, who is what, Judah?

What's his power ranking? ilovecivil.com forward slash viewer rankings. He's 31. His face is on the tank top. Yep. Giardini will be wearing enhanced clothing, perhaps a shawl. This is where you... A shawl?

A shawl. A shawl? A shawl. You're turning into my friend, Will, is... A shawl a shawl a shawl a shawl you're you're turning into my my friend will is a shawl shawl that's what i said shawl i don't think the l is silent though i did i make the l silent that's the way it sounded a shawl so do i have to go shawl? Bubini will be wearing a shawl, perhaps some makeup, and some clip-on earrings tomorrow, along with the tank top. Wait, you said Bubini's going to be wearing a shawl?

Oh, sorry, the Giardini is. Bubini has promised his fans that he will wear improved and enhanced attire. Yeah, no foxes. Foxes fornicating on the shirt is what the viewers and listeners thought Bubini was wearing last week. Yeah, no foxes. store to me referencing Curtis Shaver's love for Haribo gummy bears to the tank top that Giardini was wearing and then Giardini's enhanced attire. We're distracted. We apologize. Today we're going to cover Neil Williamson's story on the Free Enterprise Forum. The headline, if you would like to read it, is called A Housing Red Sky Morning. It was published today. It's in the lead content slot on Free Enterprise Forum, which has a URL of freeenterpriseforum.wordpress.com. Neil, can we go to the website with

freeenterpriseforum.com? No, we can't. We should get the specific URL. Just the branding guy in me is mentioning this. I do love WordPress as a content management platform. We use WordPress as a CMS for the I Love Seville Network as well. Anywho, the gist of Neil's story is data. And that's one of the things that I love about Mr. Williamson is he loves data just as much as I do. And he weaves pop culture and other societal references into his data-rich stories that are as much commentary as they are news reporting. And it makes the content approachable and digestible. packet, the Commonwealth of Virginia has only one metropolitan statistical area in MSA that needs to increase housing production. There's only one metropolitan statistical area in all of Virginia that needs to create more housing, and it just happens to be Charlottesville, Almar, Buckingham,

Pluvana, Green, and Nelson are MSA. We're going to unpack this from an economic development angle. We'll unpack this from an affordability angle. We'll unpack this from a quality of life angle, from a neighborhood character angle, and from what's in store for the future angle. Also on the program today, I want to talk about the headwinds and tailwinds for the

Charlottesville area, positives and points of concern. Judah and I have both items, positive and points of concerns that we're going to highlight on today's show. You have some words being cut off on the screen there, Judah? All right. Okay. We'll just go with it. The cutting off just really hurts my soul when the words are cut off on headlines. I sincerely mean that. Just want to highlight that. Consumer price index came in hotter than expected today. I was on the phone with a banker this morning, a very talented banker that I recently did a commercial transaction with. And he said, look, I'm looking at CNBC. Are you watching CNBC while we're on the phone?

It was like 9.30 this morning. The CPI numbers released. And he goes, look, rates are going to be cut, but I don't think it's going to happen until potentially the end of the year. The CPI numbers come in hotter than expected. So we'll talk about that and how it pertains to Charlottesville, the Consumer Price Index. Katrina Coulson, I've highlighted Katrina Coulson on this program a handful of times.

Do we have a photo of Katrina Coulson that we can put on screen? She's come on the I Love Seville show. We'd love if Ms. Coulson comes on the I Love Seville show again. Let me know when that photo is on screen. She's a freshman, a rookie in the House of Delegates. She beat Dave Norris and Bellamy Brown in her run for delegate. And I've said many times on this program, you may be looking at Katrina Galson, the delegate from District 54, a potential congresswoman or U.S. senator here. And I sincerely mean this.

She's Albemarle County School Board, chair of the Albemarle County School Board. She navigated COVID and the pandemic while on the school board as the chair. She parlayed or, you know, platformed or trampolined from the school board into the House of Delegates. And now her colleagues, her contemporaries in the House have named her the Freshman of the Year. Freshman of the year chosen from among 34 freshmen across both caucuses. She ushered through the most bills of any of the freshmen during this last session.

You're talking a city attorney for Charlottesville. She's got some Ivy League pedigree. Right, Judah? Katrina Carlson, her photo's still on screen? No, not anymore. You can put it on screen. I think you may be looking at a congresswoman, a U.S. congresswoman,

or a U.S. state senator waiting to happen. We know she's ambitious. So I want to unpack what she's doing in District 54 in the Democrat and the House of Delegates on today's program as well. She is an undergraduate. She has an undergraduate degree from Yale. She taught seventh grade math for two years. I mean, she completed some coursework for a master's degree at Boston University while earning a Massachusetts teaching license in middle school math and science. She went to UVA Law School where she graduated in 2014. Quite impressive here.

Also on today's program, we want to highlight the talk show we did this morning with Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson was in the house. You got the photo of Ralph? Yep. Here's a photo of Ralph standing next to me and Jerry Hootie Ratcliffe. I hope the meme accounts turn this into content on their social media pages. There's a play here on me not being the tallest for the meme accounts to use. Is that photo on screen?

Ralph Sampson, 7'4", 7'5", 7'6". I mean, Hootie's an even 6'. You got to crop that a little tighter on the left-hand side there, J-Dubs. Hootie's 6' and,'d say six foot six foot and a half look at how much taller he is roback's getting some nice love right there uh with the shirt i was wearing ralph was fantastic we're going to play two clips from the jerry and jerry show today on the I Love Seville show, including when Boston Celtics general manager Red Auroback shows up to Ralph Sampson's house in Harrisonburg with a briefcase full of $1 million in cash.

That story was amazing. Red Auroback trying to get Ralph Sampson to come out of college so he can draft him number one in the NBA draft. Ralph finishes four years at UVA and walks the long to get his diploma. He does not leave school early. but Boston Celtics general manager Red Auerbach comes to Ralph's home in Harrisonburg with a million dollars in cash money. Ralph tells that story this morning and he also tells a story of what it was like to play against Patrick Ewing and what Sports Illustrated called the game of the century, two giants and titans, Patrick Ewing and Ralph Sampson going toe-to-toe. Judah, we will welcome you on a two-shot.

You've already been on the program here. You're a key part of the show. What did you make of Neil's story today on the Free Enterprise Forum? The headline, A Housing Red Sky Morning. Mr. Williamson is watching the show today. I found it fascinating. I want to unpack it today. Yeah. I mean, I'm always intrigued by what Neil writes and what he has to say. And I mean, I was definitely surprised to learn that we are the only MSA in Virginia.

According to the National Association of Realtors Interactive Housing Shortage Tracker, this on Free Enterprise Forum, only one metropolitan statistical area, the MSA, Charlottesville, Albemarle, Buckingham, Pluvana, Green, and Nelson, needs to increase housing production to keep up with job creation. We've been screaming this on our platform for years. Mr. Williamson puts it in very approachable written form on the Free Enterprise Forum. Ladies and gentlemen, to say we have a housing shortage is to say we need oxygen to breathe. To say we need a housing shortage is to say we need sleep to be healthy. To say we have a housing shortage is to say

we need Vita Nova pepperoni pizza to be happy. I had a slice of Vita Nova today for lunch. He highlights, Mr. Williamson, the economic development that's on the near horizon to the tune of data science, the Paul Manning Biotech Institute, the Northrop Grumman facility that's opening in Waynesboro, and the Amazon $11 billion investment that they're going to make that's going to create new jobs. He estimates anywhere from 1,000 direct jobs to 3,000 indirect jobs, a total of 4,000. I've heard from stakeholders in Waynesboro and Almarl and Charlottesville and in Louisa County and folks around UVA that that number could be 7,000 to 8,000 direct and indirect jobs. So basically we have a number conservatively of 4,000,

a number from what I'm hearing from stakeholders that could be 7,000 or 8,000, additional people in a very short window of time, a very near future, coming to central Virginia to move with high dollar jobs. And the primary jurisdiction that they're going to focus on living is Albemarle County because of obvious reasons, schools, quality of life, neighborhood feel, whatever it may be. Yeah. it may be. Neil also highlights the fact that our market needs more permits

yesterday. Building permits. And we are going to need even more tomorrow. He says, within the MSA, a new total permit is issued for every 3.71 jobs created. Based on the historical average, one permit is issued for

every two new jobs in the community. He's basically saying we don't have enough new houses for people moving here. We don't have enough houses for the people that live here. We don't have enough houses for the folks that already live here. We don't have enough houses for the 4,000 to 8,000 that are moving here. And we have a new construction log jam. And by log jam, not a log jam at all. Here's the question. How do you solve this if there's no political appetite for more construction?

We had Diantha McKeel on the program Real Talk on Friday. And I referenced to Diantha, Supervisor McKeel, excuse me, Albemarle County Board of Supervisors, sitting right next to me. I said, Supervisor McKeel, you've said on previous shows that you are not in favor of expanding the developmental area. Only 5% of Albemarle County is allocated for commercial and residential development. And you've said on previous shows that we're not going to expand the developmental area until the 5% is at capacity right now. I said, do you still stand by that? And she said, absolutely, Jerry. Yeah. She said, absolutely, 100%. So here's the

chicken and egg question. If taxpayers and voters and constituents do not want more housing and they do not want more density, despite they do not want more density. Despite the fact that they know 4,000 to 8,000 additional people are about to move here with six-figure jobs, almost all of them six-figure jobs, what are we going to do to solve the crunch, or will the crunch just be left a mystery, an unsolved mystery, an unsolved mystery that could forever change the character and landscape of the largest county in central Virginia, Albemarle. Is there even time to to walk back what's been done? Follow. I don't follow. I mean,

Neil, as I mentioned, Neil made the point that more permits are needed yesterday. Like I said, I enjoy his wry humor, and I think what he's saying here through humor is that we are past the point where we need to do something. We needed to do something yesterday, and we didn't do it. We obviously still need to do that something today, and we're going to need to do it even more tomorrow. And that something is getting more building permits set up in the market so that we can build the housing that we need. We're not doing that.

We weren't doing it yesterday when we needed to be doing it. Is there, at some point, do we reach a cutoff where essentially we're just bailing water out of a sinking ship? If Neil was in here, he would say, gentlemen, the 5% developmental area, that entire 5% because of the topography cannot even be maximized. The topography does not allow development in the entire 5%, so really it's a ruse. That's what he would say if he was in here today. That's too bad.

I don't have an answer for this because the voters that put politicians into office by a large margin do not want more density. There's no political appetite. But then the argument is made by, say, the urbanist group,

Livable Charlottesville, that the folks that would say yes to more housing, they can't push for more housing because they don't live here because there's not housing for them. Right. So basically, you're basically talking about we're not going to,

essentially, we're not going to create laws to protect children because they can't vote to enact laws to protect children. Yeah. That's the definition of... Insanity? Catch-22? Conundrum?

I mean, it's not a catch-22. Somebody, the people out there, ostensibly, I think, understand what they're doing and what they're asking for and what they're voting for. And they don't want it. Well, the people that are also doing that voting that don't want it also may realize that if housing is limited, what happens to their housing? Yeah. What happens to their housing?

Obviously, it rises in price. Increases in value. Yeah. What happens to their housing? Obviously, it rises in price. Increases in value. Yeah. Now, that's ascribing a nefariousness of purpose that may or may not exist. I don't think it's nefarious to want your asset or investment to increase in value. I also don't think it's nefarious for you to want less traffic. I don't think it's nefarious for someone to want less crowded schools. I don't think it's nefarious for folks to ask for less strain on infrastructure. I don't think it's nefarious for people to say,

look, it's changing too fast. That was what Ralph said when he came in here. He said when he was driving from D.C. to Charlottesville for the Jerry and Jerry interview, he's like, I am taken aback again with how much this community has changed so quickly. You know, Neil says this, property owners have rights. Yeah.

And if you've purchased in a neighborhood or if you've purchased on a street with the mindset that whatever you purchase is going to stay in its current zoning, and then that zoning is then changed by a vote of five people, are your rights infringed upon? And many in the city are going through that right now. If you bought a house on a street that was lined with R1 single-family detached housing, and five people in a dais vote to change that zoning to something that allows considerably more people to live on the street, or considerably more rooftops or beds or doorways, do you feel taken advantage of? Or do you feel infringed upon? Do you feel taken advantage of? Or do you feel infringed upon?

Do you feel betrayed? Do you have a sense of distrust? Are you asking what the hell is going on? Because many in the city are. I asked Ned Galloway and Diantha McKeel, Albemarle County Board of Supervisors, on the talk show on Friday, would they consider upzoning the urban ring in Albemarle?

Their response, body language, and the response they communicated through their words in the microphones and on these cameras on this network said not a chance in H-E double hockey sticks would the urban ring be upzoned. I encourage anyone that's watching this program to head to the Free Enterprise Forum and read the headline, Housing Red Sky. A couple of key takeaways from Mr. Williamson's commentary and reporting is we have,

and we know this already, a housing shortage and the only metropolitan statistical area in the entire Commonwealth. According to the National Association of Realtors Interactive Housing Shortage Tracker, the only MSA in the Commonwealth of Virginia that needs to increase housing is the one we live in. And Mr. Williamson talks about the 4,000 potential new citizens moving to this area.

Tied to what we've been talking about all along data science biotech 11 billion amazon northrop grumman quality of life hybrid hybrid work remote work university of virginia finance family offices vineyards wineries four years of your best life at the university of virgin, four years that you spent as an undergraduate where you are literally free of responsibility for the most part, funded by your parents for some part, and able to explore the community and fall in love with it like yours truly did, and then get so enchanted and romanticized and seduced by the community and fall in love with it like yours truly did and then get so enchanted and romanticized and seduced

by the community, you choose to stay and build businesses that cater to your skill set. This is happening all the time. And it's becoming easier and easier because of why? Because of the internet Yeah, okay

Never in American history Has it been easier to start A business of merit Than right now Because of information Superhighway and what you have At your fingertips The scalability that comes with the internet.

Makes for great fodder for a talk show. No doubt. It's a position that if you're a planning commissioner, I'm going to be in person at the planning commission meeting tonight. I may take a photo of myself and tweet Neil Williamson with me and the empty seats in the background and say, seats available. I may do that today, Neil. It's a position where planning commissioners and supervisors and counselors find them in quite a predicament.

Anything else you want to add to this? I'll take the link and share it on the comments section of my personal Facebook page and some of the other Facebook pages for you guys to read. Anything you want to add, my friend? I mean, I don't think it should go unmentioned that he ends the article with a bit of finger pointing. Finger pointing? Yeah. And I think it's worth repeating. If localities wish to positively impact housing affordability,

foster economic vitality, promote diversity, and enhance the quality of life for all its citizens, they should wake up and publicly acknowledge their role in creating the upcoming housing crisis. By understanding their role in crisis creation, they can then seek to remedy the situation by updating zoning codes, expanding development areas, and reducing regulatory boundaries that can free the market to answer the pent-up housing demand. Absent such changes, we will see continued gentrification and the loss of our once vibrant population diversity.

Powerful. Would you say not? Powerful and well phrased I just retweeted Neil's link I put it on LinkedIn I put it on my personal Facebook page I'm going to share it in the I Love Civo group right now James Watson I'm going to get to your comment here in a matter of moments

this question comes in from Jennifer Jerry I love when you call Mike Codges the George Clooney of policing. Jennifer says, he is a very handsome police chief, and this got me thinking of all our elected officials, all our appointed officials, and all our city, county, and central Virginia leaders. How would you rank them by their looks? That's a great question. All of them. That's a lot of people. Cautious is up there, right? Yeah. So is Katrina.

Katrina Coulson's up there. Yeah. Someone make sure Chief Cautious and Ms. Coulson know we're giving them some props over here. They watched the program. Ms. Colson's up there. Do we have a Chief Kotschus photo we can put on there? We might. Who are the movie star lookalikes in Central Virginia's elected, appointed, and leadership realm? We have a Chief Kotschus photo. He came on the program.

I'm shaking his hands right here. That wasn't the question, though. What? The question was the top five? I'm hesitant to do a ranking. No, I mean, the question wasn't about people that actually look like, aren't lookalikes. But I allude to it in ways of, I use a bit more pop and circumstance with my language

for the sake of a talk show. It is, you know, the three E's when it comes to talk show content, right? Enunciate, elaborate, and... No, those are not right. Educate, entertain, and enlighten. The threes of talk show content creation. John Blair, we'll get to your comments in a matter of moments. Viewers and listeners, Florence Worley-Vaio, welcome to the program. Thank you kindly for watching the show.

Viewers and listeners, what are your five movie star celebrity, the five, I guess, best looking, elected, appointed, city, county, central Virginia leaders. Should we give Chris Fairchild's watching the program here? People say bald is beautiful. Do we give Chris Fairchild some love? Chris, you still watching the program?

Is Chris Fairchild on that list? Mr. Fairchild, the supervisor from Fluvanna County, are you on that list with five of the best-looking, elected, appointed, voted Central Virginia leaders? Is he on that list there due to WIC hour? Is Chris Fairchild on the list of the top five? Why do you ask with such question? You almost ask like with e-gas. How could it be Mr. Fairchild on the list of the top five? Why do you ask with such question? You almost ask with e-gas.

How could it be Mr. Fairchild? I'm just making sure I got the question right because I was doing something while you were talking. Okay, yes, you got the question right. I would need a list of all the people. You got to shoot from the hip, my friend.

I'd say Chris is definitely up there. It's very dominated. It's male-dominated, if you think about it. Again, I would need a list to better judge that statement. I mean, look at the Board of Supervisors. How many Elmira County Board of Supervisors can you name? Come on. I think we figured out I can name like two or three. What do you got?

Come on. Rattle off six. Go. We got Diantha McKeel. Diantha McKeel. We got Ned Galloway. Okay. We've got Pruitt. Mike Pruitt. Let's see.

Oh, man. I got her name last time. And Malik. And Malik. Judah number four. Two to to go I don't think I can get the other two one I know you're not going to get Jim Andrews the chair right and then the one that went in the brouhaha with the gentleman from Freebridge Auto oh man Judah it's right on the tip of my brain. Judah. I don't know if I can pull it out right now.

B. Lepisto-Curtley. Yeah, that's right. B. Lepisto-Curtley. City Council, you have Slam Dunk, right? Natalie Oshren, she may be on the list. Yeah. Brian Pinkston, Juan Diego Wade, Michael Payne, Lloyd Snook. What do you got?

Maybe you throw a little those are for other people Creed Deeds in the mix Katrina Coulson in the mix over there we already said that Amy Laufer in the mix Creed Deeds, I don't know what are you throwing shade on Mr. Deeds

Mr. Deeds reminds me of the movie with Adam Sandler. Change Your Socks? Mr. Deeds? Change Your Socks? I never saw that. You've never seen Mr. Deeds?

Nope. He does not like movies based on humor and comedy. You find Adam Sandler to be too slapstick for you. Most of the time. I've enjoyed a few of his movies, but I can't watch them all. Same with Will Ferrell. They're just too, like,

random. It's just kind of like writing stuff to writing gags. Carol Thorpe, welcome to the broadcast. Do we say the best looking... Can I say female? Or is it woman?

You can say best-looking female politician. Why can't I say best-looking female? Because female is basically a... It alters whatever comes after it. Female can be a noun. It doesn't just have to be an adjective. You're right. Male can be a noun. It doesn't just have to be an adjective. You're right. Male can be a noun.

It doesn't just have to be an adjective. Okay. I know they can be nouns. Best looking man, best looking woman. Are we going to say it's a clear cut Chief Kachis and Katrina Kallsen? Yeah, I'd say that's fair. There it is.

There are photos on screen for the viewers and listeners. If you disagree, let us know. The question was posed by Jennifer right there. Who would you say are the most movie star lookalikes of the leaders elected, appointed, or hired in the Central Virginia community? Somewhere Chris Fairchild is saying, I've got Chief Cotches. You got their photos on screen? Yeah.

There you go. And props to both of them for doing fantastic work in their first year. Chief Katchus just celebrated his one-year anniversary, and he's doing yeoman's work. An amazing job fighting crime in Gotham. Yeah. And Colson just got named the freshman of the year in the House of Delegates by her peers, chosen from 34 freshmen across

both caucuses. She ushered through the most bills of any of them during the session, during the most recent sesh. Yeah, and I'm looking through her sponsored bills and there's a lot of them talk to me talk to me papa bear talk to me i mean i don't want to bore everyone to death well just rattle them off right i mean they're hb2 hb18 hb20 oh but you don't have a little title for each bill uh i can give you the bill name but some of them are like actual sentences. So HB2, assault, firearms, and certain ammunition, et cetera, purchase, possession, sale, transfer, et cetera, prohibited. HB18, hate crimes and discrimination, ethnic animosity, comma, penalties. HB 22, auto sears, I'm not sure what that means, and trigger activators.

Prohibition on manufacture, importation, sale, et cetera, comma, penalty. HB 23, HB 27, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 48. HB 100, child labor offenses increases civil penalties. HB 102, 106, 108, 174, marriage lawful regardless of sex, gender, or race of parties. Issuance of marriage license. HB 177, 178, 179, HB 281, child

day programs, use of office buildings, waiver of zoning requirements, 312, 327, 351. I'm like, I'm only this far down. Entertain, educate, and enlighten. God, that's a lot of bills. I'm like this far down on the scroll bar.

I'm not going to keep going. I would kindly invite Ms. Colson to join us on the program so we can talk about HB, every HB under the sun, including happy birthdays. I mean, it goes all the way. Oh, well, they ran out of HBs and they went to HJRs and finally HRs at the end. I've got to give a friend of the way, oh, they ran out of HBs and they went to HJRs and finally HRs at the end. I've got to give a friend of the program over there, Mr. Jim Hingely, some props for maybe being on the movie star list.

The man's aging like a fine Merlot, Jim Hingely. So who does he look like? Well, do we want to make it lookalikes? You're saying Cautious is the George Clooney of policing. Well, that's what you keep saying. Well, I was meaning movie star looks. I guess I did say movie lookalikes. Okay, Cautious is the George Clooney of policing.

Delegate Coulson is most akin to who, appearance-wise, on the silver screen. Her photo back on screen, please. Delegate Coulson, viewers and listeners, if you're watching the show right now, Ms. Coulson is... My first impulse is Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts, wow.

Oh, man, I just tossed that. That's high praise right there. Carol Thorpe is throwing some shade at us right now. Go ahead. Julia Roberts, okay. You're finishing your... I mean, she's beautiful. She's got curly, wavy hair. Obviously, skin tone's a little different and hair color's different. All right. We're going the Julia Roberts of the House of Delegates. How about Jim Hingely?

Jim Hingely. That's on you. I'm going to go Mr. Hingely. That's on you. I'm going to go Mr. Hingely as a brawnier Robert De Niro. Brawnier? Yeah, Mr. Hingely's pretty brawn. Strong guy. Okay. Okay. Here we go. All right, comments are coming in. Comments are coming in quickly

here. Carol Thorpe goes. Carol Thorpe of the Jack Jewett District, who we very much appreciate. Can we get her photo on screen? Yep. She is number, is it nine in the family? She's throwing shade at us right now. She's giving us some shade over there. Sorry, Carol. We do like shade. Sorry, Carol. Sorry. Apologize. John Blair, number two in the family, is watching the program. Can we get his photo on screen? Are you not going to

share the shade? She's like, must be a slow news day. Oh. It's a little entertainment, CT. Come on, Carol. the Jack Jewett District. George Clooney of Policing, the Julia Roberts of the House of Delegates, and the Robert De Niro of the Commonwealth's Attorney. John Blair says, I could not agree more with you and Judah. Neil Williamson is a treasure for the Albemarle-Charlottesville area.

He said, Todd, Ray, and I had a good talk on LinkedIn about Neil's post. The price of a townhome in Albemarle County in 2024 is now the same price as a single-family home in Albemarle in 2018. There is a need for some massive land-use reform in Albemarle County. Again, and I respect these comments, and he makes strong arguments, and he's going to back these comments up with tremendous fact. I will say this, both Mr. Blair, number two in our family, and Mr. Blair, if he was not in Stanton in the Valley, if he was still city attorney or interim city manager in Charlottesville, he would be on that top three, top four list movie star looks? Mr. Blair's got the presence and the je ne sais quoi and the energy of which movie star? I'll give you that answer right there.

But I will say this before you give me your answer. Based on this picture? No, just in general. It doesn't have to be based on this picture. I don't know him just in general. I will say this. Mr. Blair lives in Alamaro County.

I won't say where. Yours truly lives in Alamaro County. I won't say where. Well, viewers and listeners know. Judah Wickhauer lives in Alemarle County. I won't say where. Yours truly lives in Albemarle County. I won't say where. Viewers and listeners know. Judah Wickhauer lives in Albemarle County. We won't say where. The appreciation the three of us have garnered over the last four or five years has been noteworthy and significant. Oh, insane. And while I understand that this is every homeowner's dream, A, those in charge should understand and know better than the rest of us, hopefully. And this kind of price action, what do you call it?

Appreciation. Appreciation is unnatural. Price action. And those that fail to see the downside are going to harm the rest of us making foolish decisions. Well, you can make the argument that this is just BS money. Yeah, but we've talked for years about the fact that... We pay taxes on it. Until you sell, you're not going to enjoy it.

Yeah, that's fair. But we've also talked for, you know, especially on the Real Talk, the Real Talk with Keith Smith, you guys have been talking about the fact that, yes, it's great that you can look at your property and see the appreciation and wiggle your fingers and count your virtual money. But the fact of the matter is nobody's moving because it's not like you've made, it's not like your home is appreciated where others haven't. They've all appreciated.

You're not getting over on anyone. Your $100,000 house that is now worth $200,000 is not buying you any more house when you sell it. Not always the case. Yeah, it's not always the case. I understand that. I mean, if you're conceivably able to parlay something into a non-mortgaged instrumented purchase because of the equity accrued in a house purchased prior to COVID, then you're coming out ahead. Right.

But it's not always the case. Yeah, I don't mean that nobody gets ahead. I just mean that overall, this is not something that's good for everyone. Albert Graves retweets the show. Ginny Hu, first let's get Albert Graves' photo on screen. He is number seven in the family, a key member of this family. Did you give a John Blair look-alike in Hollywood?

No, I didn't. Were we going to hold on that? My first impulse for John Blair is, I'd say, Dan Aykroyd. No. No. Is there a better picture I can look at besides?

I don't see the resemblance at all. Ginny Hu, number two in the, no, sorry, number four in the family is watching the program. Ginny Hu says this, those Haribo gummy bears are the best. Wegmans has them where you can buy a bag of single flavors so we occasionally get the pineapple ones. I personally like the, are the white ones the pineapple ones? The gummy bears?

You're asking the wrong person. I can't remember the last time I had a gummy bear. I like to mix the white ones with the red ones in a bag. And it's just like this midnight waltz in my mouth. Like the cha-cha on my tongue. That sounds like strawberries and cream. Strawberries and cream. I don't know what the flavors are, honestly. Okay. I want to highlight on today's program a couple of sizzle reels

from the Jerry and Jerry show where Ralph Sampson joined us. Before we do, if you go on a one-shot so I can see the headlines. Because if you remember, we finished the headlines while I did not email them to you. We actually typed them in directly. Headwinds and tailwinds, I believe, is a topic we haven't gotten to, although this first 40 minutes of the program were headwinds and tailwinds potentially of the show. I mean, economic development, jobs are coming. Thousands of jobs in the next few years. Thousands of new jobs. Incremental jobs in the next few years. Economic development.

Coveted area to live. The number one employer expanding, UVA, housing appreciation. I could continue with the tailwinds if you want me to. Quality of life. Officials essentially throttling density, so some would say is more quality of life because there's less congestion. But some of those same headwinds can be conveyed or portrayed as tailwinds.

Depending on the driver. Depending on your outlook and how you look at it. Housing appreciation, increased taxes, assessments are going up. Yeah, people that have no problem affording the house that they bought usually don't have much problem

with increased taxes. But people that, you know, scraped by or took a large loan to buy a house, that extra $100 or $200 even a year can be hard, if not crippling. Economic development, new jobs, can mean competition and gentrification.

Yeah. Politicians that throttle development could mean, hey, I can't live there if I want to. The number one employer expanding and creating more positions to hire means,

what if I'm not qualified to work there? What am I supposed to do? And how do I keep up with the Joneses? It's the tomato, tomato, glasses half full, glasses half empty contrast. Anything you want to add to that? I think, yeah.

You're much more, what's the word I'm looking for? More trepid, much more... Trepidatious? Concerned, cautious? About all of this? Much more lukewarm? About all of this? Yeah.

Well, yeah, I mean... I think it's... You know, we oftentimes talk about the extremes of things. That is news. But I think it's easy for the rest of us, myself included, at times to forget about those things that are affecting others when they're not affecting us. And so it's easy to go about our days. It's easy for me to go.

And I don't drive a whole lot. I don't drive very far. You drive. I'd say you drive less than five miles a day. Quite possibly. I'd say you may drive less than four miles a day. Quite possibly. How many miles is it from your estate to our headquarters?

I don't know. I would say it's less than two miles. Probably. So you are on a regular basis driving less than four miles round trip per day. Most likely. The point, getting back to my point, I don't have to spend a lot of money on gas. I'm blessed in that way.

You also are a single man. I'm also a single man who doesn't always eat a whole lot. Doesn't have much overhead. So it's easy to forget that there are people that may have to drive 25, 30 miles one way for work. It's hard to keep in mind that there are people that have to go and get one of the large shopping carts when they go to the grocery store. I can get by with a basket or one of those little small ones. Do you get it with the green car that has the steering wheel attached to it? Do you ever push that grocery cart around i find someone that looks friendly and i ask them to push me around no i don't do you ever have fun in the grocery store and get the electric

cart that you sit in that's motorized and drive it around no i've never done that i think i did that last week but i do i do run literally and then i was chastised by the bag boy for driving around the aisles in the electric cart in the grocery store. I said, sir, you can't be in that. I said, what do you mean? It was parked next to the entrance. And you said, sir, you don't know the problems I have. I said, I have a terrible case of tennis elbow. Do you see the brace that I'm wearing on my forearm?

I need this electric cart. He said, sir, please get out. I said, okay, and I just got out. And then he whizzed it back to the front. You said, I'll fight you for it. No, I did not say that. I said, yes, sir. I just got out, and he got in the cart and drove it to the entrance. There you go. True story. You, I interrupted you. I apologize. Please finish your thought process. You were making a very good point. I believe I was just making the point that we all have our blind spots, things that we don't have to worry about,

issues that don't affect us the way they affect other people. And for myself, I try to, uh, I try to at least keep some of those things in mind occasionally, um, better understand what other people are going through, but it's, it's impossible. You, I, I'm not living their lives. Um, I don't know. Um, I've, I've been blessed with good health. I can't, I can't remember the last time I had to go to the hospital, at least for myself. And so I'm incredibly thankful, but there are people all around us going through hardships, and we talk about a lot of it. Well said. For some reason you, your commentary, your commentary was poignant and, and perspective rich and on point per usual. But when you said, um, something about life, I immediately went to James Vanderbeek and varsity blues where he goes, I don't want your life.

Have you seen Varsity Blues? No. Oh my goodness. What world do you live in where you think I'm trying to watch sports movies? It's much more than just football in Varsity Blues. It's a coming of age rite of passage set

in Texas Friday night football about teens maturing into young adulthoods and the trials and tribulations they face as they graduate high school. Okay. Varsity Blues. All themes that are very dear to my heart. Can we play the Ralph Sampson sizzle reel?

Sure. Ralph Sampson, the greatest basketball player in Virginia history. Seriously, the greatest basketball player in Virginia history. Seriously, the greatest basketball player in the Commonwealth of Virginia history. Someone argue with me on that. A three-time national college player of the year. Do you know the only other basketball player in Hoops history that's been named three-time college basketball player of the year. Do you know the only other basketball player in Hoops history that's been named three time college basketball player of the year? You know I don't. Bill Walton. Okay. The Purdue Center may be named player of the year this year, which would make him a two-time winner, but the only

three-time winners are Ralph Sampson and Bill Walton. Ralph Sampson was voted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. He was the number one draft pick by the Houston Rockets in the 1983 NBA draft. He went from Harrisonburg High School to the University of Virginia, where obviously he had fantastic fame, notoriety, many accomplishments. He lived on the lawn, Ralph Sampson. He was so famous that they had to move him from the lawn to Coach Terry Holland's basement, where they had to get a waiver for the NCAA, from the NCAA, for him to move from the lawn to Coach Holland's basement

because people would routinely bang and knock on Ralph's door on the lawn to get a glimpse of him, to talk to him, to touch his hand, just to meet him. And we saw a little bit of that same thing after the show, didn't we? Can I tell the story?

Ralph Sampson leaves the studio. Our studio is on Market Street. This literally happened less than two hours ago. And as he was leaving the I Love Seville studio on Market Street... He was fortunate enough to have found a parking spot directly, like literally straight out the door from our office. He found the best parking spot in Charlottesville for the studio, literally in front of the office.

As he's walking to his luxury automobile, it looked like a Mercedes. As he's getting in the automobile, there was a car driving down Market Street. And a woman that was driving, not a female, a woman was driving this car. She screeched on the brakes, came to an immediate stop,

got out of her car, engine running, door wide open on Market Street, runs around the hood of her Honda Accord just to greet Ralph Sampson, shake his hand, grinning like a schoolgirl as if she saw the George Clooney of policing.

She tries to hug Ralph, shakes his hand, literally stops traffic on Market Street. There is a cat bus behind this Accord waiting, honking on the horn saying, what the hell are you doing? She did not care. wanted to greet ralph and as that interaction was happening as judah and i are seeing this interaction through the storefront of the i love civil network other cars are going by in the other direction stopping yeah there's other cars coming down market street in the other direction stopping in the middle of Market Street, 10,000 cars every day go by this road, honking and waving to Ralph. It's like the Taylor Swift of Charlottesville.

Is Ralph more of a celebrity locally than Dave Matthews? I have no idea. People leave Dave alone. Dave can wear a hat and go incognito. Dave is also a... What? How tall do you think he is? When you're 7'6", you can't hide. Can you put the photo on screen?

I'm sitting next to Ralph. I'm 6'5". No, I'm not. Liar. I'm 6'5". No, I'm not. Liar. I'm 5'7". I was 5'8". Went to my last physical. Evidently, I'm shrinking.

Cars on either side of Market Street in either direction stopped to interact and just to get a hello or to shake the man's hand today. I cannot imagine what it was when he was a student at the University of Virginia. He tells a story on the Jerry and Jerry show today about what it was like having Ren Auerbach, the general manager of the Boston Celtics, a hall of famer, one-time coach of the Celtics, come to his house in Harrisonburg with a million dollars in a briefcase to try to persuade him to leave the University of Virginia early and to enter the NBA draft. We have that sound for you. Can you imagine the general manager of the Boston Celtics coming to your home in Harrisonburg with

a briefcase with a million dollars in it, trying to persuade a 20-year-old man to leave college early so he can draft him with the number one overall draft pick in the 1980 NBA draft. Here's the story. Cue up that sound in three, two, one. Give us the Red Auerbach story. He offered you a million dollars. Yeah, the story was that he had a suitcase with a million dollars in it.

I don't know if that was true. That's what it looked like. I don't know. So there's a picture of him and Mr. Fitzgerald. Their own associates came in. They came to the front door. We let them in. They wanted to talk to us about coming out.

And it's funny because I know Cedric. Mike Schwab played with him in Houston. So we, he had the podcast, we were on his show a couple of years ago and he said, well, Ray came to me and Larry and said, would you come down and help us, Coach Ralph Sampson to come in, you know, into the league? And both of them said,

no, we don't want to take that trip, whatever, but we will call him. So they called before during the process and then Ray and then Mr. Fitzgerald came knocking on the door, and they had a briefcase with a million dollars in it. Supposedly. Now, I couldn't see the rest of it, but the Tops had $100 bills on it. That's why I don't know if underneath didn't have money.

Who knows, right? So you can come play for the mighty Boston Celtics, and we'll give you this million dollars, and you'll play in Boston and be great. So just wasn't ready I was only like I said 200 pounds I wasn't physically ready for Robert Parrish and the the east brutal beat down in the league at that point in time and I just was having fun in college and I wanted to continue my education we got one more clip for you to play from the Jerry and Jerry show today we encourage

you to listen to this show one of the best ones we've ever done. Jerry Hootie Ratcliffe, yours truly, Ralph Sampson. And this clip, he talks about the game of the century, which was how it was built by Sports Illustrated Magazine. A game that featured Georgetown Hoya, Patrick Ewing, you know Patrick Ewing? Yep. And Ralph Sampson in a college basketball contest of still memorable and epic proportions. The game of the century, Ralph Sampson talking about Patrick Ewing and what it was

like to play against the Georgetown Hoya. 3, 2, 1. One thing, you may have you had so many highlights in college one of them was the showdown with Patrick Ewing and the game of the century cover of Sports Illustrated

two covers for Sports Illustrated just for that one game. I saw an interview with Patrick I guess when you went into the Hall of Fame and he said he went out on the court lined up against Fame and he said, he went out on the court, lined up against you, and he said, I looked up, and I kept looking up.

And you kept looking up. I kept looking up and said, my God, this man is huge. Yeah. What was that game like to you? You know, it was a fun game. You weren't 100%. Yeah, I wasn't quite 100%. But we had played, as you know, a couple weeks before that, we had played Carolina.

We had played all the top teams in the country almost within a 10, 15-day span. So we were on a big-time roll. And three days before, three or four days before the game, we had all the Sports Illustrated. We had the press. It was crazy, crazy, crazy up until that game. And then the day before, it snowed. Yeah. If you remember that.

So a two-hour drive was a five-hour drive, whatever, to Cap Center. But we got there. And so it was fun to watch them play. But the biggest significant thing out of that after you look back is Othell Rickey I talked to Michael Jackson a little bit whether he was really scared of Othell Rickey you know because they pressure the ball so so much at Georgetown played great defense but Othell was pretty tough he was was nasty. Yeah, and Ricky was really fast. Yeah

So all that I knew was that if I could control the middle I'd get the ball to them and then with Rick Carlisle I could shoot and play and he was he was tough too And so we could we could I figured we could win but I don't know how Effective we would be you know until we got to the game. So it was fun I had played in the cap center in high school against Sam Boyd with the All-Star game. So that was fun, but it was a great place to play because you really couldn't see the stands because they had black and a standout with the lights. So for me, with the atmosphere in the Cap Center, it was amazing to play in. And that game with Georgetown was great to watch. Again,

after I watched it out there, the fact, but also played. And then a guy named Senator Russ Potts, I think he'll put that game on. He's passed on now, but we used to talk about it all the time. And so he gave me all the things he had to do to get that game on, on television. The schools got money, and it was on network TV. It was like the game of the century, decade, whatever it was, like Kareem and Elvin Hayes.

So they tried to do the same thing like that. So it was fun. And then Patrick and I had a chance to talk, you know, afterwards sometimes here and there in Hall of Fame or when UVA played Georgetown a couple years ago. We talked in a preseason game. And, you know, it's the first time I've played against somebody that tall as well and that strong. But I knew I was probably a little bit more savvy than him in college at that point in time, but they played and dominated a different way.

But we had a really good team. They had a really good team. And as you look back memory-wise, it's really good to watch that game again and really figure out where you were at that point in time. And then you also hear fans say, I was at that game. And then coming to the restaurant, that picture is on the back wall where people say, oh, I was at that game. So those stories are definitely good to hear. Again, wherever they were here, some of them are real, some of them are more embellished, but it's the fans watching

and it's a good perspective for me to understand and enjoy their stories. That's the three-time National Player of the Year, the greatest basketball player in Commonwealth of Virginia history on the Jerry and Jerry Show in our studio on Market Street. Ralph Sampson. You can find that podcast wherever you get your podcasting or social media content. It's the Jerry and Jerry Show featuring Jerry Hootie Rackliff,

who is going to his 50th straight ACC basketball tournament this week in D.C. 50 straight ACC basketball tournaments for Hootie Ratcliffe. Golly, that's a milestone to celebrate. Tomorrow's show, The Great Giardini will be in attendance. And Sidekick Bubini.

Do you have a photo of Giardini? We're going to give more fodder to the meme accounts. Meme accounts, get ready to post the great Giardini's picture from tomorrow. The attire will be enhanced. There will be a shawl. A shawl. George Irwin shawl. Maybe some clip-on earrings and perhaps an envelope

in Giardini's attire tomorrow, what will Bubini be wearing? I don't know. Bubini? Bubini? I've got to find something suitably... I don't know. It's not an answer. I've got to find something suitably...

Bubini-ish. Come on, boobini. Alright. Giardini and boobini tomorrow. Any closing thoughts for your fans? You're on screen. Oh, Giardini is? And so is Curtis.

Oh, there we go. That made it to the meme accounts. I thought it was hilarious. Any closing thoughts for your fans, Bubini? No? No? Get outside and enjoy the weather. Yes, Bill McChesney. I will be wearing a shawl.

A shawl. Giardini and Bubini will be in attendance tomorrow, Bill McChesney. Judas says get outside and enjoy the weather. All right, that is the Tuesday edition of the program. We hope you enjoyed it as much as us. Please do us the favor of spreading the gospel. That is the I Love Seville show. By telling somebody about it, like

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