The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Ralph Sampson Joined Jerry Ratcliffe & Jerry Miller Live On "The Jerry & Jerry Show!"
Episode Date: January 28, 2025“The Jerry & Jerry Show” headlines: Ralph Sampson Interview On Jerry & Jerry Show What’s Wrong With The UVA Basketball Team? How Would Ralph Fix The Virginia Hoops Team? Should UVA Change Its Ba...sketball Philosophy? How Do You Handle Adversity As A Player? Who Would Ralph Hire As Next Head Coach? What Are Ralph’s Thoughts On NIL & UVA? Ralph’s Thoughts On Future Of College Hoops Read Viewer & Listener Comments Live On-Air Ralph Sampson, CEO of The Sampson Group, joined Jerry Ratcliffe & Jerry Miller live on “The Jerry & Jerry Show!” “The Jerry & Jerry Show” airs live Tuesday from 10:15 am – 11 am on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to “The Jerry & Jerry Show” on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Good Tuesday morning, guys.
My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the Jerry and Jerry Show.
We are live in downtown Charlottesville, folks.
Just a hop, skip, and a jump from the John Paul Jones Arena in the shadows of the University
of Virginia.
And today's program is going to start with a bang.
Ralph Sampson is in the house. He's alongside the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer, a household
name, Jerry Hootie Ratcliffe, who needs absolutely no introduction. 50 consecutive ACC tournaments,
in fact, 51 on the near horizon for Hootie Ratcliffe, if memory serves correct. We'll
talk about that with the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer. I already see questions and comments coming in. Hootie, this is your
influence. It might be the influence of the man sitting right next to you as well in Ralph Samson.
I told a story the last time he was on the show. This is a fantastic story. Ralph was in the house,
kind enough to join us. He walked out our studio on Market Street to his fantastic Mercedes Benz.
And as he was walking to the Benz, the man legitimately stopped traffic on Market Street.
There were cars in either direction that stopped to take a picture of Ralph.
Can we go to the studio again?
Ralph, you remember that?
Vividly remember.
It was a lady outside.
It was.
She listened to the show, and she knew I was in the studio,
and she stopped in the middle of the street, parked.
Yeah, with cars behind her.
Carred behind a bus.
I said, come on, whatever.
So she got the autograph, and she went about her way.
But, yeah, that was a UVA Charlottesville moment, for sure.
I had never seen that happen in the almost 10 years of us doing shows here.
He stopped traffic in Market Street.
Hootie Ratcliffe, that was something special.
It doesn't surprise me at all because that's the kind of effect Ralph has on people,
and it's always been that way and always will be.
That's being part of Ralph.
Viewers and listeners, you can offer Ralph some perspective, but we'll start open-ended.
How are you doing, Ralph?
I'm good.
I'm glad to be here in Shawville for the day, just hanging out.
And always good to come back where I have fond memories
and just excited about, you know, just UVA and Charlottesville and the state of Virginia.
But it's fun.
It's really fun for me.
We'll start with another open-ended question.
Virginia basketball, what's going on from your perspective?
Well, Virginia sports in general, there's a lot going on, I do believe, right?
So, you know, basketball is in a transition, which we all know.
I love Tony Bennett-Dodd.
I think he's one of the greatest ever college basketball coaches.
You know, obviously I'm a Coach Allen fan,
and so Coach Allen's number one, Tony Bennett's number two.
In my world, Tony got the edge because he won a national title, which is great.
But 15 years here, and I just love the guy.
I love the way he handled himself.
I love the way he took his exit.
He knew it was his time.
You know, he took it when he, you know,
left his assistant coach at the job for the year.
I respect that.
He made the changes.
And you can't just, you know,
there's nothing negative you can say about Tony Bennett.
I mean, the family is good, wife, kids.
Just love the guy.
He's a very special person.
Hootie, I got one more for Ralph, and you jump in the mix here.
Sure.
This is a straightforward question for you.
Go ahead.
Did Coach Bennett, who I adore, I think the name should be on the court right next to your name on the court
of the John Paul Jones Arena. But here's a straightforward question. Did he throw Ron
Sanchez a bone with how he left or did he do Ron Sanchez a disservice with how he left?
Well, think about it. You know, I mean, and I saw Tony in the middle of summer.
You know, he was excited about coming back. He was changing like the Hall of Fame area
and John Paul Jones. You know, every coach I think goes through that era where, you know,
when do I call it? When did I pull the plug? You know, is there anything next for me?
So at the end of the season, I mean, he'd done this for years and said, maybe I should, you know,
leave and do something else. And, you know, when you lose and whatever, he's coached, you got to
get away from it for a minute. And then he got excited in the middle of the year. And when you lose and whatever, you've got to get away from it for a minute.
And then he got excited in the middle of the year.
But coaching is tough these days.
It's not like you have seasons where you can take some time off.
It's 24-7, 365 days a year.
And the coaches have no time off with all the stuff that's going on and try to compete at a very high level.
So I think he did Sanchez, Williford, and the coaches a solid, a plus,
because he could have left right after the season,
and they would not have had a job.
But he gave his respect to his coaches, and he just really, I think,
had a hard time trying to make that decision early on
and realized that this is his time to leave.
And he gave his coaches a chance to coach another year,
see if they can pull some things out,
grab it out of the hat, basically, and see if
they can get on the stick and get a new
contract. I really appreciate what he did.
Yeah, well,
I agree with you. Had he
stuck around, and
obviously this team is
not one of the better teams
that they've had.
I'm not sure there's an NBA player on that roster.
But, you know, had Tony stuck around for another year,
people would have overlooked that while he's trying to rebuild the program.
Ron's not going to get that kind of credit, obviously, because he's a newbie.
So he was put in a tough situation.
He is.
No question about it.
And Ron didn't see it coming.
I've talked to Ron, and he didn't know Tony was going to quit until it actually happened.
And so, you know, this was a program. When Ron came back here from Charlotte, he was hoping to build on what Tony had built and recruit more NBA players because they've got quite a few in the pros now, either in the NBA or G League or overseas or whatever.
And things just unraveled in a way that nobody really expected. And, you know, it's just a tough situation right now,
and I'm assuming it's going to be awfully hard to turn this around.
I guess the best thing they can try to do is make the ACC tournament
and ride it out as best they can.
But I would imagine there's probably going to be a coaching change at the end of the year.
And I hate that because I like all those coaches.
They're all good guys, and I was hoping that they could succeed, but it doesn't look good.
You just said something like you've got to be able to make the ACC tournament now.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just weird, right?
The bottom three teams, viewers and listeners, do not make the ACC tournament.
That's crazy. That's crazy. I don't like that rule. You can have a play-in or something. I don't know you can have something, right? right and the bottom three teams viewers and listeners do not make the ACC tournament that's
crazy I mean I don't like that rule you can have a play in or something I don't know you can have
something right but yeah you have to have play for something I mean the ACC tournament is and used to
be the best tournament in the country but now you got Stanford and California I just don't know how
it's going to pan out I mean I would have went out to Memphis and UConn and the East Coast schools so
we have the rivalry right but I got to fly all the way to California and stay a week.
In Dallas?
In Dallas.
And so education is, I mean, you know,
I stayed at UVA for four years to get a degree.
I mean, one year, whatever, and I was on track.
And so the education, you know, meant a lot to me back then.
It wouldn't mean shit to me today because you don't really have to go to school.
You can play one year, get some money, and try to go to the pros and get in and out.
Or you can go to another school and get some money.
Or you can transfer and go to Portland and go to Melbourne and get some more money.
And also, what education do i need today
as a college athlete especially in basketball football and baseball what education i mean i
may do some financial literacy but i don't really need a education anymore but guess what all that
money is going to run out at some point in time and your education going far back on so where's
these athletes going to go and get a real job for the rest of their life? So nobody's looking at that part to me, I think.
It's just ludicrous what's happening in college sports.
Dale Thompson says hello.
Ralph Sampson, he loves you.
Renee Pettiford watching the program.
Dale, how are you doing, buddy?
Renee is one of the biggest fans out there.
She says hello, everyone.
She's got the question that everybody's asking, and this is a good one for Hootie.
This is a good one for Ralph.
Ralph will throw it to you first.
Who do you think should be the new coach for next season?
Okay, I'll caveat it with mine.
Should there be a new coach for next season?
Well, you know, I'll be realistic.
I mean, I love Sanchez and Williford.
I think they should get a shot at it, you know,
because they were thrown under the bus.
Will they get a shot at it, you know, because they were thrown under the bus. Will they get a shot at it?
I don't know.
But my picks would be if they were still coaching, it's either Laranega or Odom,
because they know the history of U of A, but that's not going to happen.
They retired.
I talked to Coach Laranega.
They retired from Miami the same day. Just gets tired of the
shifting coaches. They are pure coaches. You're talking Dave Odom here.
Dave Odom. I'm coming back to that Odom. Dave Odom, Coach Odom, my coach.
Dave Odom. The two top
ones that I would say is, number two, Ryan Odom.
He knows UVA. He was born
and raised here. He's a great coach
at VCU. I talked to
Coach Odom about this not too long ago.
I said, you know, man, he'd be interested in UVA.
I mean, maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
He's doing a great job at VCU.
And then he beat Tony in a 1-16 game.
So, you know, I give him some kudos for that.
But I think the cool here is
Rick Carlisle.
Rick's got a house here
in Charlottesville now. Rick's daughter's
going to UVA now. And
I don't know if Rick started the NBA,
but I
think with the culture, having
an NBA coach
that can coach NBA players
may attract some players to
come to play for UVA
because he's there, just like Belichick at North Carolina.
That may happen.
But do you have the NIL money to compete with the big boys
to get those type of players?
I don't know.
But Rick would be my favorite.
I hear there's a secret player and staff committee that's trying to pick coaches.
I'm not on that committee, so I can say what I want.
Former players.
Former players.
From what I know.
I have no clue.
We've heard similar rumblings.
I've heard that, but like I said, I don't know who's on that,
and I'm not privy to all that stuff, which is fine.
But I think Rick Carlisle would do a hell of a job,
and I think he would fit the status quo in Charlottesville
because he may be connected to all the big money guys in Charlottesville
that may do some more NIL because he's here.
Marcus Edmond says, Rick Carlisle would be ideal.
He gives Ralph a lot of props.
He says, program needs new energy.
Renee wants Rick so badly.
Rick Carlisle, with your daughter Wendy watching
the program. Hello, Wendy. We love you. You're a hell of a real estate agent.
Real estate agent? I need one. I'll call her.
Call Wendy.
Rudy will set you up, yeah.
Hootie Ratcliffe. Rick Carlisle.
I've always liked Rick Carlisle. I agree with Ralph. I think he would be an excellent choice.
I don't know if he's, like Ralph said, I don't know if he's tired of the rigors of the NBA or not.
I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he was.
That's a demanding lifestyle, as you know better than I.
And, you know, a lot of people say, well, NBA and college basketball is two different worlds.
It is, but it's still basketball is basketball.
I think he would be excellent.
He seems to be a good communicator with players and fans could relate to him.
And I think he would be a good link to the financial community as well.
I would have no qualms with that.
I remember back when he first started getting into coaching, when he was with the Celtics, I guess.
And I think there was an opening, or soon-to-be opening with Virginia at that point.
I said, would you ever be interested in coming back to coach Virginia?
And he said, hell, yeah.
But that was a long time ago and a lot of –
Well, Rick, he's always politically correct.
He had to say yes at that point in time.
But he loved Larry Bird.
He loved the Celtics.
He believes Celtic green.
And, you know, I mean, he's a
coach that, think about it,
he won a championship in
Dallas with QBIT and that group
with Doug Davieski and some great
players, but he goes to Indiana and
in a couple years he's competing to
play in the Eastern Conference Finals
with some players that you don't even
know their name particularly,
but put them together and were able to compete.
Now, college is different.
You've got to develop, and Briggs knows how to develop players as well in the NBA.
You've got to take them.
But he has a pool in the G League that he can go get players.
You're not going to have a pool here unless you go get somebody from another school.
I mean, Duke, they buy them players.
Their basketball program makes about $50 million a year.
So they have a different
period, right? But you've got to compete with the Dukes and the
Carolinas and the Kentuckys with big
money. And, you know,
we have a genius, and we don't have that big money like
they have. Go ahead,
Hootie. Yeah, well, yeah, that's true.
And, you know, Rick's been credited
for being an offensive genius
too, so that certainly would help if they're looking and going in a different brand of basketball instead of the style that they're playing now.
And often that's what happens when you have a coaching change.
They'll go for somebody who's somewhat opposite of what you presently have. But, yeah, I'm told that at least in terms of getting a coach,
that money is no object.
Certainly I don't know if that's the case with the NIL.
And I know the NIL has been greatly enhanced in the last year.
But, again, I don't know where that stands on the national level.
Like you said, and that statement is very valid,
money is no object to get a new coach.
Then, you know, the players that are playing for you at NIL
is money an object.
Yeah.
So on one side you've got money that's not an object,
and on the other side you've got money is an object.
And then there's no education.
So, I mean, it's very hard for me to even fathom
the college basketball system right now
and the kids that are coming out and going to the NBA.
I was talking to some guys in the NBA the other day, and they're like, you know,
when we played, obviously it was a little bit more physical and a little bit more tougher.
But Kevin Garnett mentioned the other day, like, okay, you don't watch it anymore
because you're watching G League players play against guys that's trying to develop their game at an early age.
And all of a sudden now, you have the NBA at the watered-down version of what the NBA used to be.
Oh, it's so watered-down.
It's a three-point shooting competition, the NBA, right now.
All they do is run to the corners.
Yeah.
And they wait to shoot a three.
Yeah.
Someone dribble drives, attacks the paint, kicks out to a shooter beyond the arc.
That's the game.
That's the game. And it's not pleasing beyond the arc. That's the game. That's the game.
And it's not pleasing to the eye.
It is not fun to watch.
It is not fun to watch.
I love the NBA.
I love the NBA game.
But think about this.
Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James.
All of them are 10-plus years old.
LeBron's double 10, right?
When they leave, who are you going to watch?
Because the highlight game on Saturday
was the 8 o'clock game against LeBron
and Steph on 8 o'clock on national
TV. Steph didn't have a great game.
LeBron didn't win. But you
want to watch that. Absolutely. Because they're competing.
They're competing. Yeah? There's nobody else
you want to watch because you don't know anybody. I mean, you can't
name five other guys on different teams
that are compared to those guys.
I don't even watch the NBA anymore.
It's hard to watch.
I love the NBA game, trust me.
But it's definitely a worldwide game now.
When Benyana's coming, Luke and all the guys are coming.
But will I really want to watch them shoot threes?
Not probably.
Right?
That's a conversation that's happening with the national media.
Who's the next face of the league? Is it national media. Who's the next face of the league?
Is it Ant Edwards in Minnesota as the new face of the league?
He's got some swagger.
He's got some chutzpah.
But is he the guy?
That's a really good question.
And you talk about a legacy to live up to with Steph and LeBron.
I mean, who's going to be able to carry that torch, ladies and gentlemen?
Questions are coming in incredibly fast right now.
Anthony Edwards is going to have to get out of Minnesota.
100%.
And maybe a lot of ways.
He's got to be in the big market.
And maybe he needs to get out of his own way in some regards.
True.
At some point.
Because why?
He doesn't have a really good veteran behind him to teach him the road.
Yeah.
And most teams used to have a veteran on the bench that's going to help people,
i.e. Chris Paul in San Antonio.
San Antonio.
He increases Wimbledon's game tremendously, right, over this past year from last year to this year.
So it's crazy.
Comments coming in quickly.
This one, what is the top five short list with Ralph and Hootie for the next coach at UVA?
You've kind of highlighted a few.
How would the pecking order short list look?
I mean, I think number one for Carlisle, number two is Ryan Odom.
Other than that, I'm not in favor
of anybody else.
I've heard
a number of the coaches potentially
Shaka Smart. I've heard that
one. I love Shaka to death.
But he's coached
different places.
Again, he's a great coach, but I don't think he's that UVA culture fit.
Think about Tony came here.
He's a different breed.
It took him a couple years
because they wasn't going to fire Tony
the first couple years that he was here.
They weren't going to keep him.
So he changed the culture here
over the years and started to win.
And it's been hard for somebody else to come in and really fit
and fill the shoes of Tony Bennett.
Shock is great, but I don't know if you can fill Tony Bennett's shoes.
Hootie.
I remember having to write a story about the big picture with Tony Bennett
at that point because there was so much heat from the fan base
about what it was going to look like in the future if he got it his way which uh thank goodness he did but uh i with ralph i i would
prefer somebody like rick carlisle or or uh ryan odom i like both of those guys um i've heard mark
fuse name mentioned i don't think that's going to happen. I've heard Shaka mentioned a lot.
I agree.
I'm not sure he's a fit.
I've heard the Baylor head coach floated.
I've heard that, but I'm just not buying it.
If he turned down Louisville and Kentucky last year, why would he come here?
It doesn't make any sense.
And Louisville's got much more money.
Yeah.
A lot more money.
They've got a bigger arena.
It's a bigger city.
They can get anybody they want into school.
I don't know if that matters much anymore.
It does here.
Go back.
Think about what Louisville did when they changed coaches.
One-year turnaround.
But, no, they had some NIL money, which Louisville got a lot of Kentucky money,
horse money, a lot.
Yeah.
Get rid of every player, get all new players, each one of them get an NIL deal.
Right.
And I watched them play against Ole Miss early in the year.
They got blown away.
Then they come back and beat us, which is not a great match, right,
by 20 here at home and then beat us there as well.
But, you know, that's the turnaround you have to have,
but you can have plenty of money to do that.
Comments are coming in very quickly.
This is a very good one, and this is from Tennessee.
With the Atlantic Coast Conference being not the conference that it was,
why would a coach come to Charlottesville to lead this program?
I'll add some background to that comment.
When Tony Bennett goes from West Coast to East Coast, Washington,
what state, to the University of Virginia, you have Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Jim Boeheim.
What do you have?
Leonard Hamilton.
Jim Laranega.
Jim Laranega.
I mean, you're talking.
Rick Quatino was in the league then.
The creme de la creme.
Yep.
Who is the creme de la creme now in the Atlantic Coast Conference?
Only one left is Hamilton.
Yeah, Leonard.
Brad Brownell is a decent coach.
You've got John Shire, a young guy at Duke who's good.
I'm not sure he's great.
Hubert.
Hubert Davis at UNC.
Struggling a little bit.
Struggling, yeah.
He's getting ready to be fired supposedly, right?
Yeah.
That's what they say.
It's not the league it used to be.
So that's the question.
That's the question.
Why would an A-plus coach, a blue blood, come here for this job?
Well, if you ask me, I mean, that might not be a bad circumstance to come in
because the league is yours.
If you can get things going, you may not be able to match up with the SEC right now,
but the ACC is wide open for the taking.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I mean, because you come in with some new blood, with some new coaches.
You can make your mark if you can win.
Right.
You know, Leonard Ham was a great friend.
He recruited me at Kentucky.
He's got a couple more years probably if he wants it,
but he's going to be the next one to retire more than likely.
Facing a lawsuit right now.
Well, true.
Former players.
Former players with denial money.
Yeah.
So you never know what's going to happen.
I mean, I don't think he did anything wrong,
but he's trying to spread it around equally,
but that's the nature of the beast.
But we'll see what happens with that.
But it's going to be tough.
But you can come in, and if you can recruit and bring some players with you
and make your mark, then you'd be the face of the ACC.
But that's a big chore to do, especially after Tony Bennett.
I mean, granted, when Tony came out at a game that John Paul Jones,
he got more cheers than the players.
Absolutely.
He did.
He sure did.
So that's going to be hard to beat.
Follow-up question for you.
Does the philosophy need to completely change with Virginia basketball?
I think philosophy needs to change with Virginia sports
and Virginia in general.
You know, with CAF Futures and the hospital and things going on there,
with every school from Darden on different islands,
from my opinion, Virginia used to mean something.
It used to mean Thomas Jefferson, special school education,
highly educational school. People want to go there for
the academics and the sports and now to think about it I've toured the football state football
new facility this year and it's amazing you can get players coming there now and football now
it's turning the corner where they got like 20 some plus uh nio guys coming in so you know
that's a telltale year for football but the facilities are amazing right but there's no
in that facility there's no recovery room and then and i didn't see a academic room
so all football players can stay there and and be kind of warehoused as football
when we were in school we were part of the school and the culture of the
school and on grounds, and we loved that part. So I just think
there's a disconnect between sports and the academic part,
and I think they have to come back together and say, why can't, you know,
I propose a situation to
some of the powers that be.
It's okay, why don't you, you've got 900 students, create an endowment,
give every kid $10,000 a year, $40,000 total,
even the kids that are playing in the Olympic sports.
But if you leave the first year, you get $2,000 or $3,000.
If you leave, you don't get nothing.
But every year it builds. But you've got to graduate to get it all. Because or $3,000. If you leave, you don't get nothing. But every year it builds.
But you've got to graduate to get it all because graduation has to mean something.
And right now, to me, graduation at any institution from a college athlete don't mean anything.
I mean, we can go on and on.
Like the new rules with junior college, right?
I can go to school four years at junior college and come back and go four more years at a major college.
This was led by the Villanova quarterback who said that my time at a JUCO should not
count because you're penalizing me from a name, image, likeness, earning potential standpoint.
Yes.
He won.
He won that case.
He won the case and is coming back to Vandy where he's getting paid bank to lead the Commodores.
Yeah, good for him.
Props to him.
I mean, great.
Yeah.
But what does that do for, I mean, so a high school kid coming out high school senior
is not going to get recruited to go to D1 schools.
100%.
Ever.
Unless he's the 1% of high school athletes.
You're 100% right.
Like, dude, they go get them overseas and come in already playing these NBA academies.
That's right.
Bring them over to Duke and all the powers that be where I can play and win a national title.
But then this high school kid, poor kid, is going to go to JUCO.
That's going to be their training ground, right?
And then maybe we'll get him to come up to the big boys after he's trained.
Because Tony said the same thing.
I can't get a kid one year, the freshman, and then work with him and then he leaves the next year.
That's a waste of my time. Right. Yeah. A waste of what we do from a player development standpoint.
But now I can go to Juco for four years. I get three degrees almost by that time.
Right. I got eight years to to see if I can play. That's scary.
I mean, because the high school kids, high school basketball and the whole
AAU system is going to take a serious
look at at some point in time.
That's a hell of a take right there. Huda, your thoughts on that?
I just, I don't know.
Every week I wake up and it's
a new nightmare.
Like the Penn State
just hired the Ohio State
defensive coordinator for
$3.1 million.
I mean, think about that.
And it's just, you know, the SEC has controlled football for so long.
Now the Big Ten is starting to use their money.
Bigger schools, a lot more alumni, so much money.
They're starting to use that to take over college football.
SEC is taking over college basketball.
Where does that leave the ACC and the Big 12 and all the rest?
I mean, it just becomes such a money-hungry, greedy thing.
It makes me ill to think about it.
It's definitely money-driven, for sure, and big networks, big advertising.
Like the NBA did that $76 billion deal with Amazon.
Yeah.
Now you've got to be worldwide.
And now there may be a new NBA European League that they're going to develop.
It's going to happen sooner or later.
100%.
Because it's all money-driven.
Yep.
You're playing guys, $200 million, $300 million.
I mean, Jimmy Butler's sitting out right now with the Miami Heat and getting fine,
but he wants a new contract.
He's making $50 million, but he wants a new contract and making $250 million, $300 million.
Jimmy Butler is suspended for a third time by the Miami Heat,
is legitimately losing $500,000 plus per game with his suspension,
and he doesn't even care.
He'll go to arbitration
he'll get some of that back does not even care thank you unbelievable he'll go to arbitration
he knows he'll go to arbitration he'll get some of it back and i got the man to trade because i'm
gonna get 300 million dollars yep that's what he's trying to do you were born too soon i need to go
back i need to go back to shore and get a little bit of that left over tail. Four and two.
Let me throw, this is a very straightforward question for both you gentlemen.
Who is going to make the potential hire of the coach with Virginia Men's Basketball?
Carla Williams' contract renewal completely flies under the radar
to the point where Dave Teal and Chris Graham have to do a FOIA,
a Freedom of Information Act request, to find out that they gave a renewal to Ms. Williams,
the athletic director, who I think is safe to say is a bit embattled with some of the fan base,
some of the fan base frustrated with the athletic director.
She's had tremendous success with the Olympic sports, the non-revenue sports.
The football team is floundering right now. I would say Tony Elliott's
coaching for his life, rebuilding
a roster completely through the transfer
portal. Let's see how that goes.
He has to. He has no choice.
Is Miss
Williams going to make the hire? Is she the right
person to make the hire? There's a lot of layers
to this onion here. Well, I'll look at
it like this.
Call it came the year year two after
tony bennett i give credit a little paid a lot of credit but craig was my assistant coach but
he was splintered between old money and new money so he went with new money side when they
were trying to bring you hall in and john pa. So, you know, that's another story another day.
All the Olympic coaches, all their sports were pretty solid,
and I don't know how many coaches have changed during those years.
Not many.
How many?
Not many.
So they've already been there.
So you hire Tony there, you win a national title, okay, great,
you're part of that fabric. So basketball was stable.
Football, you know, she comes in, it's been not stable. So you have one coach, then, you're part of that fabric. So basketball was stable. Football,
you know, she comes in, it's been not stable. So you have one coach, then, you know, get
a new one, and then give them credit because you had the incident with the football players
getting shot on that bus. So you got to give them a couple years, right? Because that's
hard. I'm not going to bring my son to UVA to play football when I got these shenanigans
going on on campus.
That's why I said the campus has to get around the sports and the sports and the campus
academically has to get around the sports because it's disconnected.
And then you got Tony, and then you got the women's basketball where you finally got a decent coach.
The first hire was terrible.
I love her to death, but she just wanted to be in her nice clothes on the
sidelines. Now that's pretty much fixed. So Carla has to prove herself to make this happen.
Her first hour of football, I think he's a great guy, don't get me wrong. I met him.
We sat down many, many times. Unfortunately, I think he can coach it, but you've got to
get talent at UVA that want to come here.
And that disconnect with university is causing football and basketball for guys that don't want to come.
You know how many top players in the state of Virginia right now,
the John Marshall and all these other high schools in the state of Virginia,
and they're getting recruited by the big boys?
I saw a couple games already.
And John Marshall High School got kids from all over the
country coming to Richmond and living
there and playing at John Marshall.
They can play. They can flat play.
How about Chance Mallory?
They can play. Right in our
two miles from here.
Chance could play point guard at UVA right now.
100%. He'd start.
He'd start.
Whatever they try to give him, that now Tony's not here,
he's waiting to see what's going to happen.
I mean, you know, hypothetically,
if I was an ambassador for the state of Virginia or UVA,
I would make some agreement where every player in the state of Virginia
that's playing high school basketball at least gets a shot at playing
at one of our institutions, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Richmond.
But most of our kids go out of state
because there's no school
in the state that they want to go to.
If I'm a Kentucky player, I want to
play at Kentucky. North Carolina players,
I want to play at North Carolina. We don't have
that in the state of Virginia.
It's not been that way for years, right?
So there's
players here that can play.
I've seen some of them.
They're not knocking the guys we have right now.
Nate Ament.
Yes.
Number one recruit in the country.
In the country.
From Virginia.
From Virginia.
Are we recruiting?
They were.
We were.
But now we're doing it with the coach.
So that coaching, you know, I mean, that change got it. You can't make it during the season. Like, okay, Sanchez, we're going to hire this guy. So that coaching, that change, you can't
make it during the season. Like, okay, Sanchez, we're going to hire
this guy, so you've got five more games left
to make the ACC tournament
out. So that change has got to be made very
quickly so they know who's coming in.
So some of these new players coming in, or you're going to have to go straight
to the portal. But you've
got to have some kids
that can play in development,
but you've also got to have some kids from the portal.
Because the portal is going to change every year.
You've got to get some kids that want to play here,
that want to be a part of the fabric of UVA
and be proud to wear Virginia on the front of the chest
and not your name on the back.
That's the way it used to be.
The way it used to be.
What do you think, Hootie?
Those are all valid
points.
You also have to worry about
how much of this current roster
is going to turn over.
Isaac McNeely is going to be
offered a bag of money to leave.
Of their own volition, or if a new coach
may not want some of these guys. He may try to
run some of them off.
If they could hold this team
together and
they could find
a really good elite point
guard like Chance,
they don't have
a lockdown defender like they've had
like Ryan Dunn and
some of the other guys that have been in that succession.
They can sick on the other team's hottest score,
and they don't have a room protector.
If they could add those three parts and keep this team together,
they could be decent next year, if not more than decent.
But everything is just so –
You've got a couple of players that could play serious roles.
You've got a point guard.
You've got some big guys in there that can play offensively.
It's a little bit hard for them because they don't understand it.
Sanchez put in a hard spot.
Sanders has got a body and can play.
They're throwing the ball in the post a little bit.
Right.
They're throwing it down there a little bit and letting him work.
And then you've got a couple of three-point shooters.
They are spot-up shooters.
They're not off-the-dribble shooters.
So rearrange things a little bit, but I know we're also used to Tony's system
and Sanchez is trying to make that system a little bit.
But we've got spot-up shooters.
You're the dead big boy with that big body.
I'd be letting him pound people every day.
Yeah.
You know, you get tired, you give them off two minutes,
I'm putting your ass back in the game.
That's right.
You know, so you've got to readjust a little bit.
So you've got to nucleate if those guys stay.
Or you don't run them off and get more.
But then you've got to stalk them over.
So you don't know what it's going to be. It's going to be hard um this comment comes in from earliesville so much money in sports i love sports but it just takes it just gets me thinking
how much good could all that money do if it would put into scholarships does the tv revenue stay in
the athletic department or does it get spread around throughout the university that's from
vanessa parkill i'll add a little commentary to that.
Virginia Commonwealth University has said this coming season,
every player on average is going to make $400,000 on the roster,
plus the scholarship, plus the meal plan, plus the housing.
All that combined.
All that combined.
Virginia Commonwealth University.
And that's VCU.
Can you imagine what a Duke or a UNC or a Kentucky
or a Louisville are paying their players?
She's asking for some
clarity in how the revenue is being
spread around with the University of the Players and the
Athletic Department.
I don't think anybody knows
except the people
directly involved in that.
I don't know how you spread $400,000 per player,
but a scholarship, right?
That's living, food, that's all these things, right? That's a lot of money.
Is that $400,000 a year or $400,000 total?
$400,000 a year per player for VCU.
I like to see those numbers.
Yeah, that's that.
It'd be interesting to see those numbers and what they look like.
Yeah.
Virginia Tech has said that starting in the 2025-2026 school year,
Babcock, the athletic director,
nearly $21 million will be spread throughout the athletic department
with a focus on football, men's basketball, and women's basketball.
That's all part of the settlement.
That's the cap.
That's the cap right now.
So in a lot of ways, we're seeing a salary cap coming in some ways.
That's going to happen.
It's got to for parity purposes seeing a salary cap coming in some ways. That's going to happen. It's got to.
It's got to for parity purposes.
Comments are coming in quick.
This one's come in from Michael Murphy.
Where do you gentlemen think Tony Bennett's going to be next year?
I have a serious opinion on that.
I probably should be quiet, but I'll make it anyway.
But, I mean, Tony loved the game of basketball.
His wife loved the sport, you know, from what I know.
And then I wouldn't be surprised if they go overseas somewhere in a little village and start coaching over there because they're that type of people.
But I do know Tony loves basketball.
And for me, I think he should go to San Antonio.
The Spurs.
Popovich is a great guy.
The owner is a wonderful guy.
That would be a perfect fit for Tony Bennett to go
either coach or be a part of that organization.
The owner likes Tony, right? I mean, aren't
they friends? I think so, yes.
Then he has Wemby.
Well, exactly. He's got somebody he can play.
I mean, he can have the changes his offensive philosophy up a little bit,
but his defensive philosophy is great.
He can get down there, but, you know, does he want that lifestyle?
Does he need the money?
Does he need the money?
No.
Does he need the money?
But, you know, with Tony, I don't think it's about the money anyway.
I don't think so.
I think it's about the pride of being successful and maybe winning.
You know, How many coaches
win a national title
and then go win an NBA title?
It's like Rick. You win an NBA
title, now you've got to come back and win a national title.
That may motivate him.
It could
very well. I'm coming back just to coach
just to be mediocre.
Rick is not a mediocre guy.
He's going to want to win at some point.
Yeah, he's got a fire in his belly.
What do you think, Cody Radcliffe, Tony Bennett?
I wouldn't be shocked if he coached somewhere like W&L
just because there's not pressure about the NIL
and transfer portal and all that gobbledygook.
You're coaching for the love of the game,
which is something.
Yeah, he loved the game.
It's in his blood.
You know, no pressure, no media scrutiny.
I don't know.
He'll probably still be here doing, you know, whatever he enjoys doing.
I wouldn't be shocked at any of those suggestions.
That would be a hell of a story if Tony Bennett was in the ODAC.
Oh my God, that would be a hell of a story.
And he would build a program there and he would figure out how to win.
Larry Brown, the only head coach to win a national championship and an NBA title.
The only one is Larry Brown. The San Antonio
Spurs idea is a fantastic idea.
Tony Bennett with Wemby, wow.
Questions are coming in extremely quick.
Viewers and listeners, we're going to do our best to get to all these questions here.
I see maybe 12 states watching the program right now on the Jerry and Jerry show.
This one is for Ralph.
Why?
This is a straightforward question.
Why is the athletic department not utilizing your experience
to help
move it forward
it's a great question
that's a question that
I mean I'd be
I told somebody the other day I would be interested
in coming back
and being a part of the
fabric of the school not just the
athletic department.
Like I said, I stayed for years,
and I cherish the academic part of it with the name Virginia on it, right?
And I have no clue why the athletic department or the school,
and I know Mr. Ryan, President Ryan,
is trying to do some things as well.
I've been in conversation with them a little bit.
But to come back to be an ambassador to the program
and the school to push whatever initiatives
that the school wants, I mean, I'd be in favor of that.
But just like this other committee,
and there's a private committee or the pitch of codes, whatever,
you know, you got the powers to be here that control the school,
and I get that.
I understand the politics,
but it doesn't affect me one way or another to be a part or not be a part,
but I think that should be at least respected in some ways
to be a part of the school in some way.
But, you know, I could go on, but I'm just going to be very political myself about that
and hold my true feelings to myself because I don't, you know, I got to live life and enjoy it.
And, you know, I got some things happening right now.
We'll talk about in a minute that I'm going to help the school out with as well and do what I can do.
And maybe I can do better outside the school instead of inside the school.
I don't know.
But, you know, I'm going to be around.
So you can't hide 7-4.
So I'm going to be around.
And we're going to hang out a little bit more.
That is so true.
Do it.
That was very well answered by Ralph.
Do you want to handle that question?
You don't have to be political here.
Like, you want to handle that?
I've always felt like that Ralph should be involved with UVA.
And I think it's a mistake that they haven't reached out more to him.
And not just Ralph, but some of the other great athletes that have been here over the years.
Because some people just don't understand the sacrifice that these guys make.
They have to go through the same rigors as the other students in terms of the academics and all that sort of stuff.
But there's so much time and effort and blood and sweat and tears that are put into their craft.
The average human being couldn't do that.
And I don't think these guys ever get enough credit for that.
And I think that it develops leadership and how to handle adversity, how to handle success.
And I think that's all part of what makes some of our leaders great.
And I think guys like him should be involved.
I think it makes the university better.
It happens in other schools.
I don't know why it doesn't happen here.
Well, you have to realize, I mean, like Bobby Stokes, which I love to death.
Dr. Bobby Stokes.
My doctor.
His doctor.
Yeah.
He's a great doctor here, still in the community.
I think he could be utilized a lot more personally.
Ricky's in town.
Jimmy Miller's in the game day, which I love to death.
Jeff Jones has a house here.
Jeff Jones now has a house here because, you know,
going back and forth.
I love that he's back.
You know, Wally's back.
Park Hill's back.
Park Hill's been here forever, so that's great.
So you've got certain guys here,
but I think you can mix and mingle with a lot more guys
just to have them around.
Think about this.
When they implode at University Hall, you know, you had the banners and retired numbers and stuff like that and the rafters there.
It's not until Tony Bennett won the national title that every retired number was on one banner when it opened and now after the national title
everybody has their own banner and you have the flags up there saying national title and you have
all the other stuff up there I don't know why that happened all those years when you transferring one
arena to the next because maybe you didn't want the U-Haul history into the new John Paul Jones
history. I don't know. But Tony made that change. Now you got Coach Holland's name up there. You
probably have Tony's name up there as well. But it's changed over a period of time. And Tony Bennett,
I feel, made that change, was able to make that change. And that's why one of the reasons,
one of the big reasons I appreciate it because he made those changes where you go to a Carolina, I don't care if you're the water boy, you might get recognized at the game or you're damn sure recognized in the top of the building because you see all the great names up there.
If I'm a kid being recruited into Carolina's gym or UVA gym, which one I'm going to like the best, you know, from an aesthetic standpoint.
And so Tony started to make those changes, I think, over the year.
Then it took him a while to do it, and he did it well.
But think about Duke or even Wake or those schools,
because if I'm going to take care of those players and I'm coming in,
you might take care of me as well.
So the history is, I think, important to, you know, U of A athletics
in general, but we got to weigh in on, would I want a North Carolina education, or do I want a
Virginia education? It's no choice. Virginia, I was looking at the thing, and Duke, Virginia,
Carolina's down, but in the top 10, 15 universities in the country, Virginia is like sixth or seventh academically.
Stanford is number one.
Virginia is like five or six.
Use it.
Right.
It's a no-brainer.
Get that education and reach out to the people and get you something from the school academic-wise because kids need to understand that you can make this in-hour money, but guess what?
You don't even know how to spend it,
and your mom and dad are going to spend it before you even get it,
and everybody's going to be broke when they finish,
and they're going to have tax issues.
Right.
We've got Darden Law School.
We've got all these other schools that can help those kids groom them,
and there may be programs out there, I'm sure there are, that we work on,
but I don't know how effective they are because I don't hear much about them.
Comments are coming in quickly.
Hootie, thoughts on that, and do you want me to get to the comments?
I'll follow your lead here.
I just want to ask him a question that somebody sent in to me because it intrigued me
because I had never heard this.
I thought I knew everything about Ralph, and I don't know if this is true,
but this guy says,
Ask Ralph about the September 1987 pickup game with run DMC, Jam Master Jay,
and some students and roadies, a classic.
Did that happen?
I don't know where that was, but if it did, it may have happened in 1987.
So are we talking Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullen?
It wouldn't have happened in 87.
That would happen.
That's probably when I was in gold. I run TMC,
yeah. So yeah, Mitch Richmond.
So I go in, I get traded from
Houston to Golden State.
I walk in. Check this out. I walk in
48 hours later after I got traded.
Walk into the arena.
I walk in the arena and
Chris Washburn was being taken out
of the arena in handcuffs.
Out.
For whatever he had to go through.
We played the league with the first game.
We get beat.
And I love that Chris Mullen, I love him to death.
He takes us to battle because he has some personal issues as well.
So I lose two players from the jump.
We have Manute Bowe, Larry Smith, Terry Tegel, Jerome Whitehead.
We have some guys that cast the characters.
And we had a coach.
It'll come to me in a second.
But Don Nelson was the general manager.
So next year we get Tim Hardaway and Mitch Richmond.
Now we've got to run TMC with Hardaway, Mitchman, and Chris Mullin.
They were really, really good. I was on
that team.
We had some pickup games, and we had
some other stuff. That story is probably true
in some ways. I don't remember where it is, but
we played. Those guys,
they wanted to play every day.
It could be downtown
Oakland in a rec center to
the arena.
But we wanted to play.
We wanted to play every day.
And that time was pretty fun to watch and be a part of.
So that may be possible.
That was an amazing team.
That's a hell of a story right there.
How about Mike Murphy says he's watching in Florida.
You've got 14 states watching us on the show right now, guys.
This is the power of social media in streaming content online in digital capacities.
This is a very intriguing comment.
John, and I'll add a little background to this here.
Guys, thank you for keeping the conversation going.
John Oliver and Craig Littlepage understood the challenges of academics and athletics at the University of Virginia.
Part of the reason why they hired Tony Bennett.
Tony Bennett came to UVA with a system.
A system in some ways, some folks call it gimmicky.
I call it a strategy.
I call it a strategy.
How do you figure out to win in a rigorous academic setting?
You need a strategy, a system.
The question that's coming from Georgia is this.
Does it have to be another system head coach to win here,
or can they play the free-flowing,
up-tempo basketball we're seeing in the SEC?
It's a hell of a question.
Is that person saying the SEC doesn't have strategy?
I think what they're saying is the SEC is a bit more athlete-based,
a bit more up-tempo, a bit more easy on the eyes,
where the University of Virginia, and I don't mind the strategy at all
because, heck, we won games we won a national championship was control the clock limit
possessions and and and play the game in some ways in the proverbial quicksand
yeah I mean think about the University of Houston Kelvin Sampson system he has athletes
yes I'm talking about athletes they haven't won they compete and play, I love Kevin Safflin to death
don't get me wrong, but they haven't won
same with Penny Hardaway
yeah, you can get athletes and play to win
you've got to have a defensive
understanding of the game
period
and I always say that the art
that the art of the game is lost
on the offensive side
UCLA, John Wooden the art of the game is lost on the offensive side. The UCLA, John Wooden, all the game is lost offensively.
Run the lanes wide, get on fast breaks.
So I think you can have a combination of both
where you can defensively be successful,
but if you get to steal something,
you need to run down the court and run it up the floor, right?
Now, if you need to be a control set,
you can be in a control set with an idea of
what you need to do and how you need to and be more efficient that way so i think it's a combination
of both what you can do that you can mix and mingle both of them and then you have opportunities
to run down and get an easy basket i think you should do that so i think it's i think you do both
what are your thoughts hooty system basketball yeah i basketball? Yeah, I think what Craig and John Oliver were thinking was that Virginia couldn't go head-to-head against Carolina and Duke for those players in recruiting
and play that style of basketball successfully against those guys.
So they felt like you had to have something different
to throw people a curve that they had to prepare for and and take extra time to prepare for and
you might not be enough time to prepare for which is clearly the case in in many games but
uh i don't know yeah i agree with ralph think you got to – I think you can do both.
And I think defense is very important.
But I think they might have to up-tempo it a little bit more
than what they've been doing.
I don't know if that style is going to continue to fly
because the beauty of winning and all that under Tony was great,
but I thought that style of play sometimes offensively allowed interior teams
to hang around.
To stay in the game.
To stay in the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also you have the transfer portal element where you're not going to have
the longevity and consistency of roster to learn a system like that.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, these guys on this team right now, just they don't know the system.
They don't get the pack line.
Yeah.
They don't get the pack line.
Right.
Comments are coming in quickly, guys.
We're not going to be able to get to all these comments.
We sincerely apologize to the viewers and listeners, but we appreciate you for making
the program great.
We'll do it again one day.
Just keep them coming.
They're coming quick.
I definitely want to get what Ralph is up to and what his plans are here. But before we do, how about this, Ralph Sampson?
State of the Union for Virginia basketball.
Your thoughts on what we could expect in the next 90 days.
I mean, does a head coaching hire before the season ends?
Does it happen in March Madness?
I mean, how does it play out?
How does the transfer portal look?
How does an transfer portal look? How does NIL look?
What's the role of Lowe Davis and the collective in all this?
I mean, we haven't even gotten to that.
I mean, I love Lowe to death and what he's doing.
Now that the collective and NIL is internally, I guess, into the university as well with the new rules, it's going to change forever.
It's going to keep changing.
So that's another story
we can come back to one day.
But 90 days,
I think you wait until the...
There's going to be a game where
you either make or break and make the ACC
tournament. So I think that's
the first thing they will look at.
Make the ACC tournament. We might have to wait,
but I'm sure everybody's banking they make the ACC tournament and they lose the first game they will look at. We make the ACC tournament, we might have to wait, but I'm sure everybody's banking they make the ACC tournament
and they lose the first game.
And then during the ACC tournament, you'll have a new coach
because I'm sure quietly on the table some of these interviews are going on
or these contacts are being made, right?
Nobody's saying it, but they've got to be thinking about that
because you've got to fix it.
And then the portal opens up sometime in the next period of time, right?
So you've got to get in the portal real deep.
So you've got to have a coach coming in that's ready to make that happen.
Now, if Rick comes in, he's got to have somebody already on his team that he knows
or a contact he knows that understands their portal.
I'm sure he's smart enough to understand because Rick's a smart guy,
but he's got to understand the portal and got some people going to get some players.
Now, Ryan is already there.
He knows the portal.
Ryan Odom.
He knows what's happening.
He's already got kids.
He might get some kids transferred from VCU to where he's going.
So I think he's got the little edge there from that, but Rick's smart.
And Rick can come and make those changes fairly quickly, right, I'm sure.
So I think in the next 30 to 60 days, you'll see some movement,
especially right at the ACC tournament mark.
I hope we can win a couple games and Sanchez and them can go out on the win.
You know, sad to say it could be a loss, which is fine.
But, you know, they'll bounce back.
They're coaches.
They love the game of basketball.
They'll land somewhere else, I'm sure.
But you're going to have to make that change swiftly.
As you said earlier, money is not an object.
So you go out and hire a coach for whatever million dollars you want.
But that coach is going to have to come in ready no matter who he is.
And, you know, like I said, Rick Fitz is the model.
But Rick doesn't have a staff of college coaches with him right now that we can see.
But I'm sure he knows plenty of people that can help him out to make that change.
And they'll come in and support it.
And if Rick's, you know, I'm going to text him today and say,
I mentioned your name, so I'm going to mess with him a little bit.
He'll say thanks for us.
Yeah, he'll say thanks.
I'm sure he's plotting if he wants to do that or not, right?
He has to.
He's got to do that.
But we'll see.
But it's going to be – you've got to make that change swift, swiftly.
It can't last three or four or five months.
You've got to know what you're doing right now.
And an AD typically, in my opinion, has a roster of coaches just in case every year we lose one.
That's the point you make.
You've got to have somebody that's your first, second, third pick.
So if Carla has her roster of coaches that she may be looking at,
but who's giving her the leeway to do it, who's pulling her string to say,
this is what we want because they've got the money.
So it's a juggling act that you've got to watch.
Yeah, you've got to have a short list.
And I think
maybe they need a general manager.
Because if they had a general manager, they could
be doing this right now. All day long, yeah.
They could be looking for players.
I'll take that job, but you've got to have
a general manager of football, general manager
of basketball. You've got to be at a portal.
You've got to be evaluating players.
Coaches don't have that much time to do that. Exactly. They don't have the time to do it. At all. You've got to be at a portal. You've got to be evaluating players. Coaches don't have that much time to do that.
They don't have the time to do that at all.
You've got to be going to get NIL
money. You've got to be doing
something. I've heard
that's going to happen in college sports at some point in time.
It's happening in Alabama right now.
Football programs have a GM.
Million dollars a year.
There you go.
All the general manager does is like a pro general
manager is manage the roster and help assist the coach to optimize performance. A million dollars a year. There you go. Yeah. And all the general manager does is, like a pro general manager,
is manage the roster and help assist the coach to optimize performance.
Yeah.
I mean, that's maybe the time we're at there.
Comments are coming in, viewers and listeners.
We're trying to get to as many as possible here.
We'd love to hear what Ralph's got planned.
What do you got in the hopper, Ralph?
So you mentioned Lowe Davis and NIL.
And then you said earlier that with three notches on the um on the line there whatever we started with the restaurant a ralph's house beer
and so we hopefully will work on that this year get it canned and put it out there but everything
i do has to give back no matter what so if it's with you know boys and girls club or scholarship
program we have that.
So you'll see soon we'll come back and do it as well. We're launching a Routhouse Coffee in the next 30 or 40 days that has a NIL UVA give-back model.
That's awesome.
And I have a pretty significant database of folks that if you buy the coffee,
that if you mail market it to go to the NIL,
then we'll support UVA and the NIL program, right?
So that's one thing we're doing.
And the other thing I do is that way we have a legend series of coffee.
Coach Holland will be the first, and we'll have so many of that.
The bags are already designed and made.
Coach Holland's signature, Miss Holland gave us the okay to do that.
So we'll have a legend series. we'll get a 20 minute series but anyway it's all about give back and
whatever to make that happen so that's happening as we speak and then i have also created as um
the beer coffee there's the wine coming uh same model and then there is a strategic um
partnership company i call calledson Synergy Partners.
And I've been in the telecom business for many, many years.
So I'm going to do the same thing with that with NIL.
And I've already got Oscar Robertson.
I've got a number of universities already involved.
And I will try to get UVA involved.
But that money is serious money coming in to a Lowe Davis that can help facilitate this money that's needed for this NIL.
So I think the lay of the land, you've got to be a little different.
You can't keep going on knocking on donors' doors and say, get me $100,000 and put 50 over here in a nonprofit, 50 over here in an NIL, and that's going to sustain itself in the supply.
That's not going to happen.
You need $20 or $30 million to get this thing done, right? Now, the school can
cut budget a little bit and probably put some of that money in.
That's a whole different animal, right, at this point. But you've got to figure out
a creative way because donor weary is out there. And you can't
keep knocking on the same people's doors. I love Barry Parkhill. He had these donors.
I'm sure they get donors. Every year I come back to the same donors to get money, money, money, money,
money. I don't know if that works, but they've been successful that way. But I do know the Ohio
State and the big boys got plenty of money. We only have 250,000 plus alumni. Ohio State's got
750,000 alumni. Yes. It's a big difference. Just think about it. I mean, I'm just a visionary.
So if you've got that 250,000 alumni, I'm not adding 50 of them for 100 grand.
I'm just adding you for $20 a month.
It may add up quickly.
Yeah.
And with the $20 a month, you get delicious coffee.
Whatever you get.
Yeah.
Or beer or wine.
I'm talking about just to the NIL program.
I think it's a great idea.
So if I can get across the board to make that money,
I'm just thinking it's 5,000 or 6,000 alumni athletes.
Nobody will give but a few hundred thousand.
Yeah, yeah.
Those guys can get $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 a month.
Crowdsourcing micro-donations to the betterment of the program.
It makes sense.
Through conscious capitalism.
Yes.
Conscious capitalism is a business that's run in the black with a charitable component associated with it.
All day long.
Yeah.
That's a brilliant idea.
All day long.
And then would you have the legend series?
You would have beer, wine, and coffee.
So you want to go in the beverage space.
And then do the partners, the players that you're partnering with, do they work in the beverage space and then how do do do the the the partners the
players that you're partnering with do they work in the deal somehow as well well i mean we i mean
i mean we're looking at certain strategic things like you can put a current player's name on it
but we want to work on the nil first money going back to that so we can we can stockpile money to
support that program right and then it might be some one-off with different players.
And then we give that player that
may be at the university, you know,
a Legends-type bag, whatever that is,
a current player, and they get, they individually make money
because, understand, there's
kids that play sports that you've had
that get no money, right?
And then there's kids that's getting some money,
but then you've got kids getting a lot of money.
So if kids get a lot of money, they don't need it.
The ones that overhear the swimmer or the tennis player that's really doing well,
you're not highlighting that player on social media or TV or interviews, whatever.
Like, they are the basketball, the football team.
So that player deserves something as well.
But we can do some fun things, and we're still researching that a little bit.
But, you know, I'm across the board.
I don't think it should be one player.
I mean, you know me.
If I was in the NL space
right now with my players, all my players
that I play with would make money.
Everybody would make money.
You can't just leave me over here making money and not
my teammates making money. That's unfair.
Every one
of them has got to make money. That's the way I believe.
Rob Neal loves the program
says your tap room has the best friendly service
in town every single time he goes there
so he's giving you some props
thank you for coming
Kamora Johnson's got a sandwich at
Bel Air Market with Tiger Fuel
the market's at Tiger Fuel
I can see what he's doing working perfectly
for so many athletes
I think that's a brilliant idea
when's that coming uh i mean i want to do it right so i've
been working on for like the last eight months yeah and so sometime this spring this will start
happening okay yeah i love it hootie rackliffe phenomenal show always is when ralph's yeah
this was an absolute blast.
Viewers and listeners,
if we didn't get to your comments, we'll
humbly ask Ralph here
with a little pressure of the cameras
if you will kindly come back on the show.
Tell them to email you
questions, and then
we will set up another time to come back and do it again.
There we go. And we'll take those questions first.
But you've got to email it to whatever email address you say.
There we go.
Hootie Rackliff for me.
We'll take your emails.
Hootie, thank you for setting this up.
It was fun, always fun.
Absolutely.
Ralph Sampson, ladies and gentlemen, the man needs no introduction.
Neither does Hootie Rackliff, the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer,
who is going to go.
You realize you've got two Hall of Famers.
I see that.
We've got to get you in some Hall of Famer. I'm just trying to ride your coattails right now. I'm just riding your coattails. We've got to get you in some Hall of Famer who is going to go. You realize you've got two Hall of Famers. I see that. We've got to get you in some Hall of Famer.
I'm just trying to ride your coattails right now.
I'm just riding your coattails.
We've got to get you in some Hall of Famer.
He's in so many Hall of Famers, he probably doesn't know them all.
You're 100% right.
There's no doubt in my mind about that.
Thank you kindly for watching the program, guys.
It's archived wherever you get your social media or your podcasting content.
One of the best shows we have ever done.
Featuring Hootie Ratcliffe and Ralph Sampson.
Judah Wickhower, the glue guy.
The stats may not show up in the box score,
but we don't win without the glue guy.
That's it.
And Judah Wickhower, thank you kindly for being behind the camera.
The I Love Seville Show, ladies and gentlemen, up at 1230.
So long, everybody.
I'm staying good.
He's going to tell us when the mics and cameras are off.
They will be off shortly.
Good. He's going to tell us when the mics and cameras are off. They will be off shortly. Good. Thank you.