The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Shawn Hurley Joined Nate Kibler Live On “The White Mountain Ministries Show”

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Shawn Hurley of Happy Hands Ministries joined Nate Kibler live on The White Mountain Ministries Show! The White Mountain Ministries Show airs live Tuesday from 2:30 pm – 3:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The White Mountain Ministries Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Hey everybody, welcome to the White Mountain Ministry Show. I am your host, Nate Kibler. I thank you for listening. I thank you for watching. I thank you for praying. I thank you for being part of what the Lord is going to do through this show today. Hey, this ain't church, y'all, but it is all about the kingdom of God. So this is episode number two. Last week was our first ever show.

We were really excited with the way it went. We were blessed by all the people who watched, all the people who support it. The Holy Spirit, as you know, was our guest last week. We really wanted, we're going to honor the Lord in every show, but we really just wanted to honor the Lord and the Holy Spirit and who he is and that he's with us always. And I also want to thank my wife, Ann Kibler, who joined us for the last 15 minutes, and she was amazing. And I love you, honey. So we're excited to bring Sean in. I know everybody wants to see Sean. We're going to bring him on in probably about 10 minutes. And for a lot of our shows, guys, what I feel in my heart, of course,

this can change, but for the beginning, before we bring our guests on, it's either going to typically be a word of the week or testimony time. And I did speak a lot last week and probably more than hopefully I'll ever speak on a show, but I thank you for letting me share my heart, share our testimony and our walk with the Lord. And so today it is going to be a word of the week and the word of the week is going to be the kingdom of God. So what is the kingdom? Because the truth is most people do not know. Most Christians actually have no idea. And the truth is for most of my Christian life, I had no idea what the kingdom of God was. You have man's world. You have God's kingdom. And so what did Jesus say about the kingdom?

Because what Jesus did not say is, let's go do church, guys. And I'm not against doing church, but he never said, hey, you go be Baptist, you be Methodist, you be Catholic, you be Presbyterian, and you be non-denominational. He said, deny yourself, pick up your cross, follow me. And he also said to seek first the kingdom of God, not second, not third, not fourth, but seek first the kingdom of God. And so you could go to scripture, all kinds of scriptures about the kingdom, but we're going to start at John 3.3. When Jesus was having a conversation with Nicodemus, he said, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again. Okay, so what does that look like? I spent a normal average Christian life, and the

night I had an encounter with Holy Spirit, when I really became born again, all I can tell you guys is that when I went out on the streets after that, it was like something that I cannot explain in the sense of there was this whole other world that I now realized existed that I never did before. It's like I was walking down the street in man's world, but all these things were going on around me that I never knew existed. And so this is the kingdom. It's like the veil was lifted and everything just became new. It's like I saw everything in a new light. And so I'm all about winning souls, guys, but salvation is the beginning.

It's not the end. I see people all the time out on the streets or, you know, in ministry, and I ask them about their faith or walk with the Lord, and this is the very typical response that I get. Well, I'm saved. Okay, that's beautiful, but what does that mean? What does that mean to you? What are you doing with your salvation? You know, we talk about the Lord's Prayer. Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So we have an opportunity to live in heaven on earth now. And Jesus desires us to walk in the kingdom of God here on earth you know Jesus told us this was he

said cast out demons heal the sick and raise the dead and and and that is all part of the kingdom and it wasn't a suggestion it wasn't a prayer it was actually a command to cast out devils heal the sick and raise the dead and and and, and signs and wonders follow those who believe. So when we walk out of our house in the morning and you're living a kingdom life, signs and wonders are going to follow you out of the door. And it's such a beautiful thing. And look, some people might get upset about this and I'm okay with that, but guys, the Bible does not tell us everything that we need to know about the kingdom of God. The Bible does not tell us everything we need to know about the kingdom

of God. I like, this is like, I'm a sports guy. So this is an example that I like to use. The Bible is the playbook and the Holy Spirit is the play by play. Of course, the word is an incredibly important. It's the, it's the word of God. It's alive, but relationship with Holy Spirit is the play-by-play. Of course, the Word is incredibly important. It's the Word of God. It's alive. But relationship with Holy Spirit is a big piece of that puzzle, guys, to live a kingdom life. You know, Jesus always talked about the kingdom in parables. The kingdom is like this. The kingdom is like that. The kingdom is like a buried treasure, and you go and you find it, and you leave. You sell everything you have just to come back, you know, for that treasure. And so he didn't tell us exactly what the kingdom was. I

feel like this is kind of interesting, but I feel like recently I love palm trees and, you know, there's palm trees or, you know, we talk about, you know, Palm Sunday. So there's palms, leaves, I guess, in scripture. But I feel like the Lord was showing me recently that the kingdom of God is like a coconut, which I know that seems probably kind of funny, but you know, you ever seen a coconut and like in a third world country, you see how hard it is to get into that coconut. And it's like, it's like the kingdom. It's so hard to tap into, but once you get in there, it's just filled with treasure. It's so beautiful.

You have, you know, with the coconut, you have this nourishing water that's so healthy and nutritious for you. You have the meat that you can eat. And it's like just tap in. The kingdom is so good. It's so many treasures in there just ready for us. And so I'm going to talk about one more thing, and then're going to bring Sean onto the show. Okay, Judah. So we will talk about the night that I met Sean and the night that I was set free from darkness. We will discuss that a little bit because that's the night that we met. But we talk about taking over territory for the kingdom. And that night before I was set free,

there was darkness. There was enemy territory on me, uh, uh, territory, you know, on me and me, whatever, however you want to say it, um, enemy territory. And when Sean took my hand and when he prayed for me, the kingdom of God came in, literally the kingdom is the King's domain came in and took over territory for the kingdom that had been previously occupied by darkness. The light literally overcame the darkness, and it was new territory. It was new life. It was such a beautiful thing. So these are just a little bit about the kingdom of God, guys. And so when I say this ain't Churchill, this is about the kingdom.

Today with Sean and so many of our guests, we are going to be talking about the unseen world, about the kingdom of God. So you ready to bring on Sean? I can keep talking, right? All right. As you guys know, this is only our second show and Sean is going to be joining us live from Corpus Christi, Texas today. He will not be in studio, so we have to get him on the show. But I'm very excited for Sean to be on here. So I think that and so we don't waste any time. I'm just going to share, you know, a little bit about Sean. What is about 10, 20 seconds before we get him on? A little bit.

All right. Before we get him on. A little bit. All right. Hey. That's where we get him on. All good? All right. It looks like we have Sean on.

All right. Sean, can you hear me? Yeah. What's up, Nate? Hey, brother. Hey. Well, you are live. He's live, right?

Yes, sir. Hey, good to see you, brother. Good to see you, too going how's it going down there in texas today good good is it hot very i think it's 100 that's our normal our normal days all right well hey sean and i you know we have we we talk on the phone all the time we've had a relationship for many years and we we can sit here and chit-chat. But, you know, I want to meet on this call today. You know, it's like when people get off here, it's going to feel like they just had a big old steak, okay? All right. Good. And so, you know, a lot of this, I want to introduce Sean first, guys,

because he is our kingdom connection for the day. And, you know, you heard me talk about this last week, but Sean is somebody, he's not just, you know, he's an amazing man of God. A lot of people know Sean, but I don't think that I should just assume, you know, especially for our regional guests here that are listening, that they know who Sean is. And, you know, Sean prays for people all over the world. He sees many miracles, you know, miracles and signs and wonders and healings have been a part of his daily life for a long time. And so we're really honored and blessed to have you on the show today, Sean. And, you know, it's interesting, Sean and I have a lot in common, you know, signs and wonders have been part of our daily life for a long time. We both have beautiful bald heads, but when it comes to

technology, we can't tie a shoelace. So the fact that Sean is actually on here live right now, we thank Judah, we thank Jerry, because it's a miracle in itself, right, Sean? Yes, sir. And so, yeah, I mean, talk about the kingdom connection, Sean, when we met, you know, guys, I don't take this lightly. And, you know, Sean, gosh, we talk about people changing our life, but the reality is the night that I met Sean Hurley, my life forever changed. The moment that he put his hand on me, he took my hand to pray for me. My life forever changed. I mean, you know, you guys can go back and watch the first show. We're not going to talk about this too much, but I was radically, radically delivered. And so we have, you know, it's this, this beautiful connection, this, this beautiful

relationship. That's almost hard to explain, but it's like ever since that night, you know, I think Sean, I've heard you even say it before from the moment you took my hand, you know, you've cast out many devils, but there was just something about that that we just have this beautiful chemistry and connection that I believe that we will have forever. And so I'm forever grateful for that night. And I just want to ask you, Sean, so we're going to talk about a lot here today, but from your perspective i i know what that night was like to for me but the night that we met as the minister in that room when that happened can you explain you know explain that to people well i think you phrased it uh well um you even brought me on i was listening to you speak and this is what we carry. We carry a kingdom inside of us that is greater than the kingdom of the world, and greater than the kingdom of darkness. So when I put my hand on you, that kingdom invaded you. It kicked out darkness. You put it very well. So that night there were many miracles, healings, and when I took your hand, that kingdom flowed right into you and devils came out. And that's been my experience

with getting rid of devils or darkness. Some people have the experience, you know, people will vomit out devils, people will do this, scream and yell, kick and stomp. But usually for me, it's no more than just taking a hand. And the kingdom I carry is greater than anything darkness can produce. And darkness must submit constantly, must submit. Yeah. So my experience that night was like, yeah, here's another one. Name's written in the book.

Just got to get to him. Here you go. Brand new creation in Christ. Amen. Yeah, and I just want to say, you know, what's on my heart is that, you know, when we share these testimonies and share these stories, guys, they're getting relived. And so what happened that night with me is I was vulnerable to the Lord. And, you know, Sean took my hand, but I was vulnerable to the Lord. And Sean took my hand, but it was the power of God.

It was Jesus that I was opening my heart up to. And if we don't open our heart, we have to allow God to come in. And so there's going to be a lot of people watching. And I believe that there are going to be hearts touched. There are going to be bodies healed today, even without Sean and I praying that you are going to be touched powerfully. So I just encourage you to allow Holy Spirit to come into your heart, to come into your body in Jesus name. Okay. And so I'm glad that you talked about that, Sean, because, you know, we, we are, we want to make a method for everything. As you know, the Holy Spirit is not a method. So, you know, again, Sean took my hand and he said, Jesus, and darkness left. Right.

That's right. People are, I guess, so used to a method in things. And there is a method that I use if we need to use the word method if it makes people feel comfortable or latch on to something the kingdom of heaven is this and it is that it's not either or it's both we can cast devils out like this or we can cast devils out like that we can heal like this or we can heal like that and people have the big questions with healing so many questions they make it complicated it's a what are my hindrances what are why don't why it is why you know so many questions when when the the biggest one is come to jesus if we look in the gospel remove everything you've placed in the way to get to jesus because everyone

who approached him in the gospels was healed that's one of the biggest things I find with the healing, is if people are standing in front of me, it looks like they're approaching God for their healing, but they could have so many lies in their head that they're unworthy, that they're this, that they have to get cleaned up. You know, the list just goes on and on and on. Indictments against themselves before the Lord. You can't really approach God if you have an indictment in your heart against yourself or Him. So that was good that you mentioned that. Coming to the Lord, approaching the Lord, really in your heart. You don't need us to pray. Just come to the Lord in your heart and accept what Jesus has done. So I'm hearing, let's keep it simple. Very simple.

We're both very simple men. I appreciate your training because, guys, it is a very simple gospel. And I would encourage people, I think you'd probably say the same, Sean. If you have, you know, we are called to cast all devils, heal the sick and raise the dead. So if you have the desire in your heart to go out and do these things, maybe instead of reading, you know, have double books on demonology and healing, we just go out on the street. We love people. And we say, be healed or come out in the name of Jesus. Cause that's how Jesus did it. Right. That's it. Simple. No, don't complicate.

So, so look, I'm going to talk about one, thing, because this is a hot topic when it comes to this. The time, the night that you prayed for me, I had been a Christian, and I believe in my heart, baptized at 13 years old, I had been a Christian for about 25 years, and it took me about six months to even get up the courage to say, because when I woke up the next day and I started reading in the scripture and I was like, oh, my gosh, I was delivered. It freaked me out.

It took me about another six months to say, Sean, how many were there? And you said about four or five. And but so I was a Christian. I had demons. Can you talk about that? Sure. Let's get controversial right away all right so there's a spirit realm there's you're a three-part being spirit soul and body of course we know in the inner chamber it's just like the temple. You have the outer temple, the inner temple, and the Holy

of Holies. This is the model in our Bible. And it's also a model of a human being and a triune God, one being with three pieces, three parts. So when you're born again, darkness leaves, your spirit comes to life. You're actually walking around dead and i'm going to just keep this really simple you're walking around dead your spirit comes to life holy spirit comes and god makes his home inside of you he cannot be found in sin so there is no sin you come in darkness is gone and god habitates there this is is the place where God habitates. And it's just like, we're in the kingdom of heaven. We're in heaven and we're here. There is no sin in God. Where are we? We are in God. So there's a place in your being where God lives. Now you have an outer court.

You remember Jesus casting out the money changers and all of the garbage out of the outer court, making whips. Here's your soul. Okay? Here's your flesh. These two have been living by worldly standards, by the products of your mind. They have been living by worldly standards with habits created from greed, lust, you name it. These are the two areas that need to be cleaned up. This is where the demons hang out. This is where, okay, so let's not use the word demons. We won't offend 75% of

the people, okay? Let's just use the simple word. These are where we have created ungodly habits that need to be corrected and changed. Renew your mind to who you now have become. Renew your mind to the word of God and your righteous standing, because you're righteous now, but your flesh, your soul are still producing unrighteous behavior. You know, you're born again, you're Christian, you're in the kingdom but you have demons so this seed when you're born again you receive an indestructible seed and if you know anything about farming anything about planting you usually put a seed we'll say an inch in the ground it starts to grow but what happens with with a lot of people in the kingdom they born again, and they never renew the mind or change the habits to line up with who they've become in this new creation. So we keep putting more dirt

on the seed. You can't destroy it. It keeps growing, but now it's got to go through a foot. It's got to go through two feet. And as somebody comes along with the kingdom and bam, kicks darkness out, the seed shoots right through the ground and starts growing. It's in the light. It becomes the light. You understand the metaphor? Amen. That's most of us. 30 years for me. So yeah. Yeah. So absolutely. So beautiful. So something you were talking about, you mentioned, are you saying that now that I'm born again that I'm no longer a sinner? No, you're not a sinner. That's an identity.

No, no, no. You know that I'm joking, but I just want to hear you say it. Yeah, I do. I do. But I happened to be teaching a big class over in Mexico these past three, four days, and I opened up with that question. I said, how many sinners in the room and half of the hands went up so i had to clarify what sin was of course there is an action of sinning but there's an identity of darkness of sinner of a different kingdom

which i take for granted that everyone knows that because the circles i run in everybody knows so it's good that you you brought that up just to clarify so if you are a born-again christian you are not a sinner you may still look like hell but you're no longer a son of hell. You're a son of God. Right. Now, it's important to say because, you know, in the South here, we've been hearing it in churches our whole life. You're a sinner, you're a sinner, you're a sinner. And, you know, we believe it.

And then you actually go to read the Bible for yourself. You read the book of Romans for yourself. And you say, oh, wait, that's not what the Bible says. Right. And let me just clarify, not son of hell, excuse me, son of darkness, because that's another thing we argue about. Some people just don't even believe there is a hell. So that's a whole other topic. But yeah, you're no longer a child of darkness, but a child of the light.

All right. So, you know, Sean, you are a great identity teacher. And, you know, we are going to have an audience of a lot of people who, you know, maybe probably even run circles, maybe even around you when it comes to teaching identity. But again, you know, we're going to have a lot of regional, local listeners here. So can you touch base just a little bit on, you know, on our identity in Christ? Sure, sure. So for those who are born again, you are no longer who you used to be born in the natural. You're born into a fallen nature. You're born into this world, and you learn the ways of that fallen nature.

Every cell has learned that life. Born again. That identity. That person that you've known your whole life. Is dead. The only one who didn't get the memo. Is your mind. And your flesh.

They never received the memo. That's why you need to. Line everything up now. With the word of God. And cast away's why you need to line everything up now with the word of God and cast away everything you used to be, the way you used to think and operate. Respond to people. Respond to situations. Emotions have got to be changed. You can't do that on your own. You need to read and see who you become.

But then you need to get alone with the Holy Spirit in an intimate setting and start to grow in that love. And it's his job to change you. We'll use the word from glory to glory, but to change you and transform you into the fullness and stature of Christ. He does all that changing. It's sort of like he comes in, and now you have to unwrap everything together. You unwrap everything and start walking it out. So being a new creation is a whole different experience. You live in a spiritual kingdom in a physical world. This is a difficult thing for people to transition from.

You can't do this without intimate relationship with the Holy Ghost because you need to hear God speaking to you. You need to hear God leading you. I can't do anything I do by myself. When I do, when I'm operating in my flesh, in my old mindset, things don't work out so well for me. When I argue, I'm arguing with someone that God created. Never works out well for me, ever, period. So these types of things, they just don't work anymore. You want to say something, Nate? No, I'm just laughing

because we started talking about wives and I'm just thinking about, you know, you would think that maybe guys like you and me, when we have conversations on the phone, that, you know, we're talking about moving power and signs and wonders. That's a very small part of our conversations because we talk a lot more about the fruit, about our own home. And maybe you can talk a little bit about the importance of that. the fruit of the spirit joy peace love the kingdom of heaven is actually found in the holy ghost so if you're going to operate in the kingdom you need to be operating in the holy ghost it's all in him uh lord uh new creation i'm trying to put in the simplest types of uh thought because people really get messed up.

Well, I'm a new creation in Christ. What does that mean? Should I have a new Cadillac? Should I have money in the bank? We are only here for a limited amount of time. Trials and tribulations will come to all of us. We're all working out our salvation with fear and trembling. You know, people, I love it when people say, and my wife says this all the time, you know, when they disagree with you and you start to really declare the truth to them, they look at you like, well, some Christian you are. Like you've offended them.

Like you, listen, we're a peculiar species our language in the world's language doesn't match up i need okay i'm going to simplify this so there's four gospels written about the life of jesus christ follow me here those four gospels are actually written about you they're written about you jesus is modeling the new man creation. He's here to bring in the new covenant. Jesus was born of a virgin, born of the seed of God. That's how the book begins.

You are now born again, born of the seed of God. You have had a virgin birth. Follow me. Virgin birth. Nate, you've been born again. No man, no egg, no woman. God.

Seed of God. Boom. Water. God. This book explains your life. You're not the savior of the world, but you are Jesus 2024 to the world. The mission has not changed.

It's been passed on to you. The torch is now yours to continue the journey to bring souls into his kingdom. So you need to look like Jesus in power. You need to look like Jesus in stature, holiness, purity. That's what's missing in the church most of all, holiness and purity, and you can't produce it. It is a byproduct of seeing who you have become and being alone with God. Every time you're before the throne, when you walk away, you look more like the love

you're gazing at. And that's why we go to church. That's what the building of the church is for, to gather together, to sharpen one another, to cheer each other on. When the world has tried to beat us down, we just live off of each other, feed off each other, leave those doors, and look like love. You need to transform into love. God is love. But love has many aspects. And one of those is discipline. One of those is holiness, purity, not just, oh, I love you, I love you, I love you. No. Love is multifaceted in the kingdom. Sorry, Nate, I get on your roll. No, you're good. This is your show today. I mean, he, look, he, he, he lives in us. We should be able to look like him. It's a false humility. You know, we've been, uh, you know, guilt, shame,

condemnation, the way our parents talk to us, the way our boss talks to us, the way our friends talk to us. And we think, you know, we start to see ourselves that way. And it's so hard for people to be able to see themselves the way that God sees them is, is, is beautiful and holy and righteous and, and all these things. And, you know, we look in the mirror and a lot of people don't see Jesus, but he lives inside us. So we need to be able to start looking in the mirror and see Jesus. And that's not an arrogant thing. But when we walk into the room, we know that, you know, Jesus is there because he lives in us.

That's right. That's right. We bring God wherever we go. We bring the kingdom. We are the habitation of God now. And Jesus said this to the Samaritan woman. If you recall, there'll come a time when the true worshipers will worship in spirit and truth and not in a building. We become the habitation of God. So wherever I go, I bring God. I don't have to conjure him up. I don't have to wait for the presence to fall in the room. I am the presence. I bring the presence of God. So- Hey, Sean, you know what you told me one time? I'm just going to say this because I remember it.

And I remember the first couple of times I heard it, I was like, oh man, I don't know about that. But you said you become the encounter. This is it. You are the encounter. He needs a body of flesh. God is a spirit. He needs a body of flesh. Jesus manifested the word of God in Jesus. Manifested presence of God.

He became, the word became flesh. You are now the word that has become flesh because God lives in you. You are that word made flesh. I can't, it sounds heretical. It does, it sounds like I'm saying I'm God, but no, I no longer live. It's not I who live, but Christ who lives in me. So I've now become the manifested presence of God in the flesh. How are you? The only encounter people are going to have is with the love I carry, with the Jesus I carry.

So if I don't carry it, you don't encounter God. I mean, we all know he could do sovereign moves, but that's not how he chose to do it. He chose to use people. It's beautiful. I mean, he loves us so much. I mean, it's just, I'm in awe of him. It's just, it is amazing to think that he would work through guys like you and me, who we used to be. And, and, you know, that's what I want

to talk about. So, you know, I might've talked about this earlier, but I think this is a good time to talk about this. So really quickly guys, also like what Sean is sharing today. I mean, it is, it is so powerful and there's so much truth and, you know, just, just share, share the link to the show, share the link, because that's how more people are going to, going to, um, you know, receive this message message is so important, but you know, you talk about the old man and like, Sean, you're, you're really good about this. I'm going to let people in on a, uh, on a secret about you. Okay. I'll try not to call you out too much but but that's okay the the night you prayed for me i was like oh my gosh like i knew it was god but it's like who is this man but after five six years

of relationship i have to tell people honestly sean hurley is human oh yes he is where's my wife is she watching absolutely human absolutely allow adam dead man, to be resurrected at any given time, and I act like a two-year-old. Yes, please hear that. I act like a two-year-old. But God lives in me, and I know how to release his love and presence. I'm not perfect. I haven't grown into that full stature. I read Paul's life.

Paul was yelling at people. Paul was arguing so much that they split into two missionary teams. I mean, listen, we are men. God chose us before the foundations of the world and knew all of our stupid that we would perform on a daily or weekly basis. He factored in all of our stupid. You're God's A team. He doesn't have a B team. He's okay with you. Just keep growing

and grow. You will act stupid, but there's a great way to counteract stupid. Apologize and try to grow from there. Apologize, take responsibility for stupid behavior and grow from there. People don't realize that. Nate, we never get a license to practice our Christianity. We think we're supposed to just come right out of the box and be perfect. And then we're kind of disillusioned. And people will always, especially our brothers and sisters, will go,

instead of pointing out our new man and growing our new man, they'll say, listen, brother, you've got to kill that old man. No, that's not how you kill those things. You kill them by growing the new man, by concentrating on the new man, by being alone seeing how God sees you. When I look in the mirror, I look into my eyes in the morning and say, you are amazing. If I had a fight with my wife the night before, the enemy speaking to me, telling me I'm worthless, I'm a fraud, I'm this, I'm that. I'm looking in the mirror and I go, Jesus, I see you in

there. That guy that showed up last night, that isn't. I'm looking in the mirror and I go, Jesus, I see you in there. That guy, that guy that showed up last night, that isn't who I am. Forgive me. Apologize to the wife. I see you. I'm a brand new creation. And we, we just keep reaffirming. I'm a brand new creation. I'm love. This is how you push away all of those thoughts, that stuff that wants to hang on you, to veil you. So when you meet people during the day, you don't have love to give them. You're so self-centered and wrapped up because the devil's got you in a knot. That's how you get rid of all that stuff. You declare who you are and you get out of yourself and go love somebody.

Sorry, I get on that roll and it's like, ah. You're good. Hey, so look, so the night that we met, you know, you didn't come in with a fancy message. You didn't come in with a fancy outfit. I honestly don't even know how many scriptures that you spoke that night. But what you did do is you shared your testimony and you shared, you know, who you are. I mean, can you just like, so look, I knew that this was going to fly and it is, and we still have some time, but there's a couple other things I want to talk about. So like the two, three minute version of when you met the holy spirit in your jail cell

and and you know maybe just a quick version of who you were before you know you you met the lord very very quick version so i was a criminal liar cheap thief the whole wanting to be a gangster, all that good stuff, sort of a tradition in my family life. And charismatic Christians moved into my neighborhood. In sixth grade, they started working on me, just loving me right where I was at. I was best friends with their son, partner in crime. They would drag me. I lived with them at one point because I got tossed out of my home. I dragged me to prayer meetings every once in a while. I mean, they tried everything. They never stopped praying for me. Years go by. I'm just, my life's a mess. I get sentenced to prison time for doing a couple of drug stores. And I'm looking at a lot of time. I'm in a county jail waiting for all of this to take place.

So I have a thought of these people in my cell. And I remember their home and their table and dinner and chores, real family, something I never had. So I said a prayer. Listen, every prayer is legal. I don't know where we get our language. Every prayer is legal i don't know where we get our language every prayer is legal so i said i looked up at the ceiling like we do i looked up at the ceiling i said if there's a blank blank and blank blank and blank god why don't you blank and do something for me i wrote a letter to these

christian people the same thing if there's a, blank in God, why doesn't he do something for me? They sent me a letter back. They said, let Jesus into your life, make him your Lord and Savior. I had heard that before. But they sent me this little book, a testimony book. The testimony and the power of the testimony

is off the chains. You tell everybody what God gives for you. There's power in it. So I'm reading this. It's a guy who was in the service. He's a criminal, and I'm excited. I can feel the excitement. I don't know what's going on. Before I'm halfway through with the book, I put it down. It was like somebody took a blanket and lifted it off my mind, and the holy ghost steps into the cell light power streams of love blowing through me i'm screaming he's alive he's alive i just kept screaming he's alive it's all real

they're saying guys are yelling shut the blank up you you meant you know just the whole right there what happened all the love i had searched for my whole life and things and people this is what i was searching for i was a brand new creation my insides were as clean as like a brand new canvas and i was filled with love. Fear was gone. Anger was gone. Impatience was gone. And I had a relationship with the living God. Fear, which I suffered with my whole life, was gone. Because I knew now that no one could do anything to me. God was real. He was in me.

That's how it all started and even after even after that moment you had years of addictions and and i mean right yeah two years i are doing the church thing and they put me on the circuit the charismatic circuit of speaking never be i'm not going to say never be very careful giving a new convert for lack of a better word, a newborn again, a platform, applause, notoriety, especially if he's not in the Word and start to understand what's happened to him. I fell hard. 30 years worth of, God never left me. Let's clarify that.

God never left. But he was buried, like we talked about that seed. He was buried deep again. And the Holy Spirit would poke his head out through the dirt once in a while and speak to me every so often. But I started getting high again. I had to go to a 12-step program now. God removed it the first time for a couple years. Now I had to go to a 12-step program now. God removed it the first time for a couple years. Now I had to go to a 12-step program and get sober all over. I tried to live

like a good man. That was impossible for me. So 30 years living like hell. And then God came back in. He said, hey, I'm in South Africa. I joined the house church with my wife, and we went to South Africa, and they came back from the prostitutes, and they said the glory of God on those women was incredible. And for me, Nate, that just didn't make any sense. And I said, God? I said, prostitutes? Glory? God spoke to me 30 years. I'm standing there, and he said, do you see, Sean? It's never been about you loving me.

It's been about my love for you. And I said, you love me? He goes, I've never stopped. That just, that ended it for me. I had to find out who he was. And that began the long chase. And so look, I mean, you have been moving in signs and wonders and miracles and healings for, what, at least 10 years now. So can you talk about that?

Maybe just the things that you see open people's minds and hearts up to what's possible with God on the inside of us on this earth? Okay. So number one, don't limit God. Anything and everything is possible. Even things you've never even thought of are possible. So I had an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit. Got away and started chasing after God. And one day the Spirit said, you can heal the sick. Showed me, I'm reading it in Matthew, whatever it was. I think it was Matthew or it could have been Mark. And I said, come on, really? And I'm talking, he's talking to me, Nate, like we're talking.

Just like you and I are talking. And he said, yeah, come on, I'll teach you. And I said to him, I don't even like people. So that was the first thing he did is he brought me down the streets between there and uh the intimate time in my prayer closet he taught me how to love i actually was becoming love the more time i spent with him so all fear of people left because that had come back with those 30 years of get away and uh yeah i put my hands on as many people as i could nate and just say yeah jesus will heal you right now nobody was healed absolutely no but i just kept doing it i actually stole todd lights todd white's line yeah god will

heal you right now because i had watched him do it and i watched some other guys do it and uh one day two months later nate guy's back was healed in that first year. And I was a nurse too. That first year, everyone I prayed for, and I'm going to remain humble because my memory sometimes isn't good. Everyone was healed in that first year, except for maybe one or two people. I'll keep that. I think everybody was, but I could be wrong. But yeah, it didn't matter comas backs eyes ears blind eyes open over the phone deaf ears open over the phone my phone kept ringing non-stop everybody people were coming to our door from all over uh yeah that first year was really really crazy and listen i

was still caught up in pornography people need to hear that i was still caught up in pornography. People need to hear that. I was still caught up in talking to women. They need to hear that. I was walking in incredible power, but I had no godly character. The two must come together somewhere along the line. They got to come together or else you'll die. I don't know anyway, because I was dying. I couldn't figure it out. Because when you are moving in that much power, the holiness, the activity of the Holy Ghost, and you sin, you act like darkness, your insides just take a beating.

But I thought that this was normal because power is coming out of me. So people need to be discipled. And that's one thing that is really missing in the church. But discipleship takes a long time. You've got to have somebody pour into you. I was blessed that a couple guys poured into me after that. So what do you say to someone who says, well, you know, healing sign, they're not for today or they're not for me?

Yeah, well, then Jesus isn't for you. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, that was a joke. So in the Bible, and I don't know where cessationists come up with these things unless they have their own Bible, but in the Bible,

Jesus says, go and make disciples. Go out into all the world, make disciples, heal the sick, cast out demons, whatever. So Jesus never said, go out into the world and make disciples of perfect orators. He never said that. Make disciples theologically correct talks. He said, go and make disciples, and you have been walking with me as my disciples. So the disciples knew nothing else. The Holy Ghost came, they knew what Jesus did, and they reproduced his life. They spent three years with him. They knew, and they acted like Jesus. So they start making disciples in Acts. And people

say that signs and wonders and miracles died with the apostles. But they made disciples, and I'm reading the book, Nate, and those disciples are moving in signs, miracles, and wonders. So let me get this straight. So maybe after the second set of disciples die, it all dies. No, it doesn't make any sense. Nope. You can't overpower the kingdom of darkness unless your kingdom is greater. They had the Holy Ghost in them. The end of John, you see Jesus breathes on them,

receive the Holy Ghost, receive my spirit. And then he says, go and wait in the city for the promise of the Father, which is the Holy Ghost upon them in power. So you can move in the authority of Jesus Christ and you can move in the authority of Jesus Christ, and you can move in the baptism of the Spirit. Now, I just opened up a whole can of worms, because there's the baptism of the Holy Ghost, you're born again, you receive the Holy Ghost, and then there's a baptism.

That's a whole controversial thing, but I'm reading my Bible, and it's in there. Baptism of fire. So yeah, signs, miracles, and wonders. You need to be moving it. And it's your birthright. But you know, Nate, the fear of man usually stops us from practicing our birthright until it actually manifests. That's right. And you know, what's interesting, something I've always loved about you, and I remember when COVID came, it's the, so the Bible says lay hands on the sick and they will be healed, but it doesn't say you have to have your hands on the sick for them to be healed. And so I know for you, I'm moving this for a long time, but when COVID came, you

know, people didn't want me to come put my hands on them in public. So it's like, you know, it's where, where's our faith going to take us to do it? You know, do we have to be in the same room? Can we do it over the phone? Can we do it from another continent? You know, can we send them out our claws as you do? You send these prayer calls to people all over the world. They can put, you know, and I've done it before as well. This is not important to know that this is not just Sean, this is for you as the believer. So I don't know if you can talk about some of that because I know many times I send text messages to people or Facebook messages or over the phone. I mean, I've seen people delivered over the phone when I was holding one of my triplets in my arms and not even really paying attention to what's going on.

I just spoke something to existence. So can you talk about some of those examples maybe? Yeah, let's really rile the crowd and see how many people hang up. That's okay. All right, so just a couple examples. One night I'm stirring pasta, making baked ziti in my kitchen. I got a woman on the phone. Holy Spirit says she has a devil.

I command it to come out. She starts coughing and vomiting all over the place. I'm stirring. All I'm concentrating on is my macaroni. And, yeah, power. No distance, no time. So, okay, so this is really going to stretch people, okay? When I'm in the flow, when the Holy Spirit is really just... I have ministering spirits

that come and help me minister. I'll keep it simple. We'll call them angels because that's what I call them. They're ministering spirits. You can read them out in your Bible if you don't believe me. If I say healing spirits, people go, well, only Jesus heals, only the Holy Ghost. Well, listen, no. No. Okay? There's a kingdom.

A kingdom. Anyways. So, where was I going, Lord? Get me right back there. Yep, I just lost it. It's good. You know what? It's okay because, like I said, I knew that time would fly.

And we're going to pray for some people. I have a few prayer requests already. And so if we can, we can pray and then yeah. So if you're watching the show, just to encourage you to share it. So more people can, can, can watch this show, can support this show, can, can see all the revelation, all the truth and the power that's going to come out of the message today. And, know that there's donation links on there for the Venmo, for the PayPal. Support the show. We ask for your support for the ministry. And we're only two shows in, but if you're a local business owner or individual,

there's opportunities to sponsor our show. And so we appreciate you for that in advance. So we're going to pray for some people. And, you know, part of this, seeing somebody like Sean or even myself pray for people, it's important because when I look at who to, you know, really who taught me how to pray, to be honest, I mean, Sean played a part in that, but I went in the Bible and I looked at Jesus. It wasn't, you know, pretty pleased with a cherry on top or, Father, it's your will. It's be healed, come out, get up now. And so, you know, when people see these kinds of prayers and sometimes it's like, well, that's name it, claim it. No, that's how you pray

in the kingdom. That's how you release fire. That's how you release healing. And, you know, we take authority over these things. We speak them into existence. So I just want to clarify that in advance for anybody who's watching. Um, so couple prayer requests. So, all right. So I believe that she is watching Sharon. She is going in to have, well, scheduled to go in Friday for open heart surgery. She's got a lot going on. So I don't know what the Lord speaks to you, but if you can pray for Sharon, Sean, that would be great. Sure, sure. So Father, I thank you for Sharon. I thank you that you love her. That's one of the most important things when you pray for people. Make sure they're valued, that they know God loves them, because people have indictments

against themselves. Father, I thank you for her life. Right now, I bind the spirit of infirmity with the many illnesses, the many demonic spirits trying to steal life from her life Right now I bind the spirit of infirmity With the many illnesses The many demonic spirits Trying to steal life from her right now I command her heart be healed and whole Every vein and artery be opened Her electrical system be New

In Jesus name amen And I'm sorry because I forgot to mention this Jerry said this is going to be hard for me For my second show to try to run the show And look online and take the comments And prayer requests but I want to mention this. Jerry said this is going to be hard for me in my second show to try to run the show and look online and take the comments and prayer requests. But I want to say that we are taking prayer requests if you're watching. So it looks like they're starting to come in. So if you have a prayer request, if you have pain in your body or there's something going on, all right, now everybody's starting to reach out for prayer. So we're going to go through this, Sean. So

Andrea Walker, please pray for me. I'm in the UK. I have long COVID. My body feels like it's falling apart, but every test comes back okay. So Sean, we probably know, you know, have an idea what that is. I even have tooth pain and the dentist can't find anything. Okay. So I already know what Holy Spirit's saying, Sean. So we'll pray for her. Yeah. So Father, right now, in the name of Jesus, I just command that this spirit of COVID right now, I bind it and cast it out of your body, that all of your lung tissue be brand new. Right now. Right now. Your brain be brand new.

All inflammation go now. In Jesus' name, whole and healed and strengthened. We thank you, Father. Amen. See, people are so used to long prayers and stuff. Jesus didn't pray long prayers. Just come out. We could see a dozen people healed in the next, we could see a dozen people healed in the next 10 minutes. Absolutely. All right. So next one, I'll pray for Michelle Lindsay, prayer for broken

spine, osteoporosis keeps breaking back. So Michelle, I just speak life over you right now in the name of Jesus. I speak healing. I speak to that infirmity to come out now. I speak for every disc and every vertebra in your spine to be completely aligned and restored, for the osteoporosis, for the arthritis, for the pain to leave now. We just speak complete healing and life over you in the name of Jesus. So, look, if you guys are feeling, because I believe that you will, you're going to be feeling stuff going on in your body. And, you know, if you're experiencing healing in your body, please comment on that too.

All right. So we have another one, Sean. So Lauren's husband has a cancer diagnosis. I'm not sure what the cancer is, but, you know, if you could pray for Lauren's husband, her name, his name is Mark. Sure. Mark? Okay. Father, I thank you for Mark right now, and I bind by the authority of the name of Jesus Christ, this devil of cancer. Come out of his body now.

I command you, in the name of Jesus, loose him and never come back. Be healed and whole. We thank you, Father, in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, we have in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, we have Jackie. Pain in both knees. Jackie, I speak healing of your knees in the name of Jesus for the ligaments and the tendons to be completely restored and for all the pain to go now in Jesus' name. Sean, we have one from Britta, okay? So you said to pray for her skin to be, and Sean, I know you have a lot of testimonies with skin healings. So please pray for her skin to be healed, her hormones to be

balanced. Okay. Father, right now, I thank you for Britta. I command that her skin be brand new. All infirmity leave right now. Unclean spirit go. Her hormones to be balanced. Right now, Holy Ghost, in the name of Jesus, amen. Trying to see if I'm missing any here. All right, Michelle Norman. So if you could pray for Michelle. She said, ringing in the ears, tinnitus, which has no known treatment. Okay. Okay. Father, right now, I just command that her sinuses would be open, that the unclean spirit that keeps her blocked in her

sinuses, in her ear, I command you to loose her now. Go right now. All pressure be equalized right now. Tinnitus, leave In Jesus' name, amen. I'm just laughing because, you know, Sean, we could sit here all day and pray for people. I know you pray for, you know, probably more people on a daily basis than most people in the world. But, you know, it's funny because this is a one-hour show, so I'm just laughing. Because normally we do like a Facebook Live or something. You can just pray until it goes. But, like, we've got to knock this out. So this is coming from a place of love love, but again, guys, we don't have to pray for 15 minutes for people to be healed.

This is good. Listen, when we pray, stand. Well, nothing happened. I still, no, no, no. As they went in Jesus' life, they were healed. Just stand. Yes, faith. Take is, you know, take the action. Get up. You know, walk around. See the difference in your back.

See the difference in your knees. And let us know. All right. Okay. Pray for mom who's been in the hospital for many weeks with heart condition and other issues. Sean, go ahead on that. All right, Father, right now, in the name of Jesus,

her mom, Bertie's mom, right now, go ahead on that. Alright, Father, right now in the name of Jesus, her mom, her mom right now, her heart be healed. The infirmity spirit stealing life come out. In the name of Jesus be healed and whole. Thank you, Father. Amen. Sharon, I pray for your mom to be healed right now in the name of Jesus, for her knees to be healed,

completely restored. We speak full mobility right now in Jesus' name. And healed completely restored we speak full mobility right now in jesus name and this other young man said pray that god will be done in my life and god to bring repentance and heal my land of nigeria so sean you want to pray over nigeria and this young man thank you for watching from nigeria by the way bless you i know we have people from the UK I already saw. So for those who are watching literally all over the world, the amazing things of technology, right, Sean? Thank you, guys.

Bless you. Right. Father, right now that this young man would understand who he is and see the will of God in his life. Not wait for the will of God, but start walking. And the will of God, but start walking, and the will of God will manifest. I pray over his land of Nigeria and the crimes and the death and the sin that has perpetrated that land. I bind it up, and I ask Holy Ghost to come and heal that land in Jesus' name. Amen.

All right, so we have about three minutes left, Sean. So that's all the prayer requests that we're going to have time for today. But I just want to thank you for coming on the show. You know I love you. I really believe that this has been a long time coming. It's pretty cool that we get to do this together. So I'm honored. And I don't do this. I know Sean does not do this and we are blessed. And a lot of people are going to hear this message and they will be blessed. And so really quick, our guest next week is going to be John Martin, who's also, I met John through Sean about five years ago. Amazing man of God, amazing, powerful intercessor. And so we're excited to have John. And Sean, is there anything else that you have on your heart, anything for the show or anything for our region?

Because, you know, one of the reasons that the Lord called me to do this is to transform this region of Charlottesville, Virginia. Anything on your heart right now? Yeah, so shows like this for the people who are watching is trying to spread the word because these types of shows do disciple people, keys them into their identity. The church is long, long, long overdue to learn who they are, truly who they are, and then how to work through the interior life of Christ in the flesh and soul. So programs like this will help people start in that direction. I pray over Charlottesville and that whole region that the Holy Ghost would send even more workers to transform this area and from there transform more of Virginia. Father, I thank you for this in Jesus' name.

I love you, Sean. I thank you. And to all the listeners, we thank you for being on the show today. I speak life and healing over your bodies and your minds, and I just speak blessing to your families. And we thank you for watching and we'll see you next week. Bless you guys. See you, brother. Thank you.