The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Some Locals Angry W/ AstraZeneca HQ News; Was AlbCo Wrong Not To Announce AstraZeneca?

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us a Friday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. A lot to cover on the show. I don't know if you caught college football last night, but the NC State Wolfpack beat the East Carolina Pirates in Thursday night action in Raleigh. The reason I bring up East Carolina in NC State

the Wolfpack of NC State, UVA's opponent in week two, that game in Raleigh. I was watching the game last night to get a feel for NC State and how they could match up with UVA. And it's clear the Wolfpack have talent on their roster. So Virginia football fans with Coastal Carolina in town now, kickoff tomorrow 6 p.m. Scott Stadium game broadcasted on the ACC Network. This is the first game of Tony Elliott's fourth season in Charlottesville. Your week two matchup against NC State, the Wolfpack

looked decent. I'm not saying they're world beaters, but they beat up in East Carolina football team 24 to 17. That is not bad. That is not bad. One more item out of the notebook for the Virginia matchup. Coastal Carolina, ladies and gentlemen, has an air raid, spread them out, attack. So they're going to do their darndest to move the ball quickly, spread the ball all over the field, in particular from a passing standpoint, and do their best to keep Virginia on their heels. The Wahoos rate, 12.5 point favorite, the over under at 57.5, depending on where you shop.

Six o'clock kick, Coastal Carolina. Another item out of the notebook, one of the viewers and listeners from Eastern Shore, Cliff Daisy, sent me an email. I found it, I've been giving it some thought, and I'll read his email or paraphrase his email to you, the viewer and a listener. and we've been talking for some time about the cost of tickets in particular for basketball and how the University of Virginia was going to be able to find someone that was going to afford basketball tickets at the John Paul Jones Arena, especially in the next couple years when they're going to roll out a new licensing agreement. Basically, if you want seats about two years from now, I think it starts in 2027.

If you want seats, season tickets at the John. John Paul Jones Arena, you're going to pay a seat licensing fee, and that seat licensing fee, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be a six-figure plus payment to UVA. It's crazy to say this. If you're going to want season tickets in two years for John Paul Jones Arena basketball games to see Ryan Odom and Virginia basketball play, you're going to be giving Virginia basketball and the Virginia Athletic Department hundreds of thousands of dollars for those seats. You and I have been asking all along, how are they going to roll out this seat, licensing plan where they're asking for so much money from us, who can afford this,

especially with the basketball product, kind of being down of late, won a national championship in 2019, but since that national championship team has been mediocre to slightly above mediocre, that's fair to say. Ray, not Cliff, I called him Cliff Daisy, Ray Daisy of Eastern Shore said, I watched your show, Jerry. He thought the conversation with Judah and I on yesterday's program was interesting, especially the discussion about the economic impact of AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly, two publicly traded companies, information leaked in the middle of the week. They haven't even made the announcement that AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly would be investing

billions of dollars, billions with a B, into plants, headquarters, being built in Al Morrow County and Guchland County, respectively. More on that in a little bit, including some Almore County residents angry with the Board of supervisors that this announcement wasn't made well in advance so taxpayers could prepare. But Mr. Daisy of the Eastern Shore said, now we may know where these six-figure basketball tickets, who's going to buy them? If you got these publicly traded companies that are setting up headquarters and plants in this area, then you've got a buyer base for these six-figure tickets at the John Paul Jones Arena in a couple years when the headquarters are up and running.

he may be right I found the email fascinating his content fascinating I related to you the viewer and listener I will say this that having a fan base of season ticket holders that are new to the area

and are buying tickets to be seen or buying tickets because they like basketball but are not necessarily diehard UVA fans and a die hard UVA fan is one that has struggled with the team through the Pete

Gillen era, the Dave Lado era, struggled with the team with the early Tony Bennett era, the end of the Jeff Jones era. That's a diehard basketball fan. You want butts and seats at the John Paul Jones Arena

with people like you and me that have been fans of this program for decades, that have struggled through the thick and thin with the program. You don't just want fannies and seats that are to the area, nomadic, carpetbaggers, six-figure salaries that are buying tickets to be seen courtside from a vanity or ego standpoint or just because they like basketball. But he makes

the point from the eastern shore that here's perhaps the buyer of those tickets when those season tickets roll out and the University of Virginia asked for six figures if you want to support this Virginia basketball team. We have a lot we're going to cover on the program. We have some folks in this community that are furious right now that they were not prepped with the AstraZeneca News. I don't necessarily understand the fury. I'm going to ask Judah, who's the yank to my yank, to help put it in perspective,

why Almore Countyians are so angry right now that this AstraZeneca news was leaked about a multi-billion dollar headquarters in Rivana Future, Rivana Station, north of town. From my standpoint, I think it's a great, rate move, revenue that the county can call incremental that's not tied to our personal property, not tied to our homes, and an entity in AstraZeneca that's going to create jobs, professional mobility and verticality potentially.

A lot we're going to cover on the show, ladies and gentlemen, including Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, announcing a move to Seminole Square, tip of the cap to Conan Owen, Judah, of Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. He owns Sir Speedy of Central Virginia, Conan Owen. He's an all-around good dude, Conan Owen, smart guy, great head for business, Conan Owen. His company, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia, is locally owned and operated, and if you have a logo, a business logo, and you need visibility for it, with signage or stickers and decals, passes, lanyards, direct mail, this banner behind me is Sir Speedy in Central Virginia.

Anything for visibility with your logo. Sir Speedy of Central Virginia, ladies and gentlemen, is who you, you call and you ask for Conan Owen, the owner, a Darden school graduate. Tip of the cap to Conan who put on my radar that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is moving to Seminole Square right next to Colleen Shears' Seville Smash pickleball concept. So in the last year, on the I Love Seville Network, a lot of this news is broken here. You've seen Seminole Square evolve from an empty shopping center with vaguely. it retail stores to an omni experiential headquarters. Conan Owen has dubbed it not seminal

square, but sweaty square. With Seville smashed the pickleball facility, playing a sport, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, martial arts, and Dr. Halpern, who broke the news on this network, about Coco's Adventure Central, which is going to open in the first quarter of next year, and indoor adventure park for kids. Trampoline Park, obstacle courses, indoor adventure park. Seminole Square, job well done, evolving a shopping center that was an afterthought and becoming second-rate, if not dinosaur-esque, into a shopping center that is about experiences and doing things in person that cannot be cannibalized by the Internet.

Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, Seminole Square Shopping Center next to Seville Smash a pickleball concept, next to Dr. Halpern's Coco Adventure Central. A lot we're going to cover in the broadcast, ladies and gentlemen, including housing data from Real Talk with Keith Smith that will shock you. Ladies and gentlemen, this calendar year 2025, from January 1 until August 29th, so year to date, Alamara County only, consider this volume or this output. In 2025, there's only been 600. 11 sales for new and existing detach units.

611 homes sold, new construction and an existing, detached only. 611 homes sold in 2025 year to date. In 2019, the year before COVID, there were 832 units. That's like a 27% decline from 2019, the benchmark year, you discount COVID and that buyer bonanza. 2025, 611 units sold. 2017, 997 units sold, 798 in 2016, 734 in 2015. So ladies and gentlemen, coming out of a housing recession in 2015, you had 734 units sold year to date January 1 to August 29th.

2025 is a hundred and twenty three units behind the 2025 output at this point of the calendar year to say the real estate market right now is quicksand is an understatement i had one uh owner broker whose name is on the the marquee of the brokerage tell me this week that there is so much uncertainty surrounding buyers and sellers right now now that they are all on the sidelines waiting for clarity. And much of that uncertainty is tied to this interest rate environment where God knows what is going to happen, what cuts are going to materialize, and who's going to win the Trump pal brouhaha. We know something's happened in September, or at least the odds suggest to cut in September. How many more at the end of this

year? How many early next year? And what does that do to buy or demand and sell or demand? We'll talk about that on today's program. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast, including an attorney general candidate, Jason Mayerre's, who's straight up using aggressive rhetoric against the Commonwealth's attorney of Charlottesville, Joe Plantania. Calling Joe Plantania out for being soft on crime.

Literally calling him out. Like, those are fighting words. To the point where the Commonwealth's attorney issued a statement in rebuttal to Jason Miari's who's running for re-election. A lot we're going to cover the show, we remind you the viewers and listeners that Jeff Gaffney and Dr. Wayne Fry will launch a new show on the I Love Seville Network on Monday at 1015. Dr. Wayne Fry is the senior pastor at

Faith Christian Center International on Pantops. Jeff Gaffney, a man of faith, the CEO of Real State 3, the all-time point scoring leader for the UVA soccer team, a new show that will air Mondays on the I Love Seville Network at 1015 a.m. Jeff Gaffney, and Dr. Wayne Frye. That's going to be a good one. That's going to be a good one. Judah Wickhauer, another really good one is John Vermilion and Andrew Vermilion. The Vermilion family are five generations strong in Amaral County. They own Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. You can find their business on East High Street and online at Charlestful Sanitary Supply.com. They have a mechanic on site to fix your pool robots, pool cleaning robots, and your

vacuums. They have all the water testing you need to keep your swimming pools healthy. and clean, and anything sanitary related they got at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, these guys are A-plus human beings. Judah Woodcarrow, studio camera, and a two-shot. The show works because Judah and I are completely opposite people. Does it cause friction from time to time in this office? Absolutely it does. When we are working on the same page, does it create output of talented proportions, some of the best in the region, without question. it ain't easy working with someone all the time well i'll tell you what we've made it work for 16 years

and i value your opinion my friend and i'm going to ask you to start the show which headline most intrigues you and why i mean you got an attorney general calling out a commonwealth attorney you got seminal square turning into sweaty square you got folks angry about astrozenica and the announcement and the fact that they weren't given any heads up? I think they're disturbed about the inconsistency that they see. Is that where you want to start? I don't care.

And in terms of the Jason Maris call out, I mean, he's got some facts to back up what he's saying, whether you agree with him or not. You want to put the facts in there? I don't have them in front of me. 53. I'll call up the facts. It takes like five seconds to find them. You just have to go to CBS 19 and then look for the Jason Miari's article, which is on the homepage. And I found it right now. And Miari's is straight up, ladies and gentlemen, utilizing data to say that the Commonwealth's attorney in Charlottesville is being soft on crime. He says, 53 Virginians were murdered by felons that should have been. in prison has a number. He says just in physical year 2023, 9,638 felons were released early out of Virginia prisons. 49.8% of them have already been re-arrested in less than two years. Yeah. And I believe he called, I believe he called Plotania a more of a social worker than a

prosecutor. This is like fighting words. These are words that if you say on a playground and a school or on a basketball court at, you know, the Dell or some kind of park around Charlest ville, you'd have fist of cuffs and two dudes going jaw to jaw about to knock each other out. Plantania issued a statement countering what Miari said and standing up for his office. I know Joe Plantania. Good guy, Joe Plantania. multiple terms, Joe Plantania is the Commonwealth's attorney. Joe Plantania is not soft on gun crime.

Joe Plantania is willing to allow folks that, you know, come before his office that are in court. He offers some grace and second chance except for violent crime. He's not soft on gun crime. I think Miari's utilizes rhetoric to try to close a gap in an election that's going the wrong way for the Virginia GOP. No doubt. And one of the ways you could try to close the gap is appealing or leveraging fear to get voters to vote. I think there's sometimes with Commonwealth's attorney Jim Hingley and Commonwealth's attorney Joe,

Plantania, where you, specifically, the show and viewers and listeners have question why empathy and grace or leniency was offered. But I remind the viewers and listeners that Plantania and Hingley were elected into office. And in multiple cases, ran unopposed. It's very much my argument in the AstraZeneca discussion. unopposed Jim Hingley this year. Jim Higley beat, what, was it Robert Tracy to get into office? Plantania is beloved by voters. You don't see a lot of Commonwealth's attorney walking around Charlottesville,

the downtown mall, and Market Street, and suits and tennis shoes. He knows everybody. These are elected officials. Miyaris is hesitant to offer that that they won a seat. They weren't appointed. You want to go AstraZeneca, lower thirds on screen. We'll have the conversations to start the program. Kiddashy, James Watson, Betsy Nuget, Barbara Bossack, Aaron Moody, Georgia Gilmer, watching the program.

Janice Boyce Trevillian, Bob Yarborough, watching the program. There is chatter locally, ladies and gentlemen, that AstraZeneca and this multi-billion-dollar headquarters that was leaked, it wasn't even announced. It was leaked. That this announcement should have been made well in advance by Almore County, economic development, the Board of Supervisors. Yeah. And given taxpayers an opportunity to air quotes, prepare for it, air quotes. There's two lower thirds tied to this one.

We can rotate in and out. What do you make of this? Is it crying? Is it whining? Janet Bradley? Is it whining William McChesney or Logan Wells Claylow? Or is it legitimate beef? I think it's, I mean, it's fairly legitimate.

I think part of the, I think part of the disconnect is that we often see, we often see our elected officials putting millions of dollars into, you know, into studies and, you know, how should we do this or who should we hide? to do this and and then we get a case like this where all of a sudden there's a leak about uh astrozenica about to spend you know 10 billion dollars to bring an HQ to uh to albara county and i think some people are just like wait a minute why why is there why is there that difference why why sometimes are we spending 10 years and millions of dollars on studies to decide whether to do something and then all of a sudden we have a you know we have an enormous

you know an enormous company and spend and you know along with along with all the other things the biotech institute and i think some people are just wondering is there why is there no planning surrounding this why is there no why is there no traffic study to see what to see what AstraZeneca and the Biotech Institute and all of the other things that we talk about coming to Charlottesville. Why, and Admiral County, why is there no study done on that? On the other side of it, as you mentioned. Give me the other side. Please give me the other side. You and I are so different that makes the show great. I appreciate your opinion. As you, I mean, I'm just, I'm not saying this, any of these are my opinions. This is just how I see people reacting. The other side is that

As you mentioned before, the people making these decisions were elected by us. Whether you voted for them or not, they were elected, and they're supposed to be making decisions that you want, that you and I want. So it's hard to complain post-action that, you know, post-action that, you. the people that you elected are not doing the things that you want. We've been talking about this for two days on the show. The I Love Seville Show is the water cooler for content and conversation in Charlottesville and in central Virginia. We've highlighted it on this platform the impact that biotechnology will have because we knew before Mr. Manning made this donation to fund the Biotech Institute, that he was going to do it, and we were

explained the impact that this would have. I mean, does that really involve full understanding of what it's bringing to our area? Before the donation was made, I was told that the donation was going to be made. I was told who was going to make the donation I was told that it was going to be nine figures plus and then I was told here's the flip book of what's going to happen

school and then publicly traded first to school build the school here and then because of the talent and because of the research upside of the school publicly traded companies would be pursued and then I was told

The next step after publicly traded would be a private ecosystem of companies will be birthed around Almar County in Charlottesville. We are now in what? Stage three, stage one, our intel, which we pass along to you, nine-figure donation plus. We said that before it happened and materialized. Stage two, school was going to be world class. The director of the biotech school is a former senior level. Vice President of AstraZeneca, and he is saying, on the record, I'm going to turn this into the Silicon Valley of Biotechnology in Charlottesville, Almaro County, world class. Stage three, the publicly traded companies have come.

AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly. And stage four, which is going to be the more impactful one, would be the private ecosystem that's built around it. The Richmond Times Dispatch three days ago, citing anonymous sources, highlighted that AstraZeneca had targeted Almoreau County because of the Biotech Institute. Glenn Yonkin in July of this year, the governor, announced that AstraZeneca was going to build its single largest manufacturing plant in its entire arsenal. It would be the largest single manufacturing investment in the world,

and it was going to be done in Virginia. And AstraZeneca's picked Almore County. Yeah. Astrozenica plans to invest $50 billion in the United States by the year 2030. $50 billion. Okay. Almaro County is their go-to spot for much of that $50 billion. Now we have the head of the biotech Institute that was lured away from Astrozenica to run the Biotech Institute at UVA,

and now his former employer is, opening up headquarters here. Furthermore, in 2024, the Almore County Board of Supervisors, this was when Donna Price was on the board, Jim Andrews, Ned Galloway, Ann Malick, and Diantha McKeel, they announced, actually this was in May of 2023, they announced their intention to purchase 462 acres of land located on Boulder's, road all throughout 29 and northern Almaro. Rivana Station, Rivana Futures.

This is turning into a headquarters not just for the defense intelligence agencies, the National Ground Intelligence Center, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, but it's going to be a headquarters for other operations.

And folks are now on social media, Reddit, for example, whining that they did have a heads up about this AstraZeneca announcement. A heads up to allow them to prepare for cost of living. If they work for the defense sector, their wages will not be able to compete with AstraZeneca's wages. They did not have a heads up to lobby or politic elected officials about roads and traffic, traffic studies and quality of life impact, wage impact, school

impact. And I'm of the mindset. And I even read what Jim Duncan wrote in that thread, one of the owners of Nest Realty, who responded and said, if local government made announcements of who they were pursuing before the deal was signed, they would look like fools because many of these deals don't materialize. Yeah. That's a good point. It's a great point. And then he emphasizes what we've been emphasizing on the show for a long time. We need incremental sources of tax revenue that alleviate the burden off personal property and real estate taxes. Here is one.

Any incremental job source. Almore Countyans should be celebrating this. Do I understand the position that this is going to make the area more expensive? Yes. Do I understand the position that this is going to create a deeper buyer pool? Yes. I would highlight to viewers and listeners that are watching the program

if you're considering buying a home in Almore County across all price ranges, I would do it much sooner than later. because when Northrop Grumman's 300 employees that are that are soon coming online in Waynesboro with this 100, 200, 300 million plus facility where the average wage is 94,000 a person in Waynesboro, these folks are going to live in Crozet and Commute. When AstraZeneca, its facility is done. When Eli Lilly, its facility is done.

When the biotech Institute is done, we're going to have a lot more people here competing for the same houses. By now, don't wait. I get that it's going to be more expensive but I don't understand the cry baby or the whining not even about infrastructure and whether we've made any plans any

you know just planned at all for for all of this you know all this all that's coming to Charlottesville because I think that's part of the issue as well for some people. I think that if you're north of town and you're Forest Lakes,

Hollymeen, Green County, and you're having a commute in town, if you're north of Rio Road, that's going to be even more of a cluster duck. Even more torturous to drive. and navigate i would imagine because there's going to be more people and more employers yeah do i think the infrastructure is there to accommodate the people no but at least it's being compartmentalized to one area do i understand the traffic concerns absolutely do we probably

school built in the northern Almore County area? Probably so. Is that going to happen anytime soon? Probably not. Because they're more focused on reconfiguring.

And then it just leads into the thread of the social complaints, the whining just goes into the channel of it's just going to be an area of just the wealthy that can live here. We've talked about that quite a bit. For so long, since before COVID.

It's not going to get better. It is what it is. Right? That's one way of putting it. None of the affordable housing stuff has been working. None of this rent stabilization has been working. How about these stats from Almaro County? You ready for this? I learned this on Real Talk with Keith Smith. Put the lower thirds on screen. In 2015, from January 1 until August 29th, that's today's date. I'm going to use the calendar year 2015. Keith used the Paragon, the data tool, the data management tool that the realtors use locally. It's called Paragon. In 2015, from January 1 until August 29th, there were 734 units sold.

in 2015, there were new construction or existing construction, detached product only. 734 units. The median value on those 734 units was 387,000. In 2025, same housing stock, new construction, and detached existing construction, from January 1 until August 29th, there were only 611 units sold. So coming out of a housing crash, 2015, there were $734, now 2025, coming out of a COVID boom and a buyer bonanza, there were 611. But listen to this. The median values jump from 2015 of $387,000 to $740,000.

It's $2.xed. Yeah. The price is $2xed. It's insane. For the last five years, certainly since the onset of COVID, Every politician of this community is run on some kind of BS platform of affordable housing. Every politician has run on BS platform of affordable housing. From 2015 to 2025, the median values in Alamoire County have gone from 387 to 740,000.

In that same period of time, we've been talking about expanding the development area in Almaro County. Right now, it's restricted to 5% of Almorea County is designated for development. 5%. And of that 5%, the topography doesn't even allow the development to happen in all 5% of it. Right. That area of development, that 5% has not been expanding. It has not been expanding. But you're against them expanding it, aren't you?

I'm totally against it. I'm just calling out the BS nature of politicians. In the last year and a half, there's been politicking about allowing commercial real estate, to be quickly pivoted into residential real estate. Office to apartment conversions, office to condo conversions. That hasn't happened despite people talking about it. City of Charlestville, we got this zoning ordinance. Nothing has materialized on this zoning ordinance,

and we have spent damn near close to a decade on it. Nothing has happened. All these people talk out of one mouth, one side of their mouth, and either through an inability to execute through not being able to see the force through the trees or maybe because they're not really interested in doing it the other side of the mouth actually does or orders something else to happen.

So what do you think viewers and listeners is going to happen to rents when AstraZeneca, Eli Lilly, and biotechnology, and biotechnology and all these private businesses that I'm told are going to happen. What do you think that's going to happen to rents and landlords

that own rental property? She's just going to make them wealthier. What do you think it's going to do to the demand for office space? She's going to create more demand. Comments coming in quickly. In front of the program, James Watson, watching the show, I'm going to get to his comments first.

Love James Watson. Smart guy, UVA grad. Very intelligent guy. James Watson on my Facebook page, did you say the biotech AstraZeneca is going to go into the Rivana Station area? I know the Regional Chamber of Commerce has been talking for years about bringing more science and technology jobs up there, particularly in the UVA North Point area.

That vision has been marketed for a while. James, I'll answer your question this way. We know the Paul Manning Biotech Institute's going to be on Fontaine Avenue being built now. I think Fry Springs is going to hugely uptick in value. I think Ivy is going to hugely uptick in value. I think Crozet is going to hugely uptick in value. I don't know for absolute certainty the location of AstraZeneca. My anticipation is AstraZeneca will be in that Rybana Station, Rivana Futures area.

Because I think AstraZeneca was lured here with its billions of dollars with some kind of incentivized plan or program with Almar County. And we know that Almar County is a property owner of a huge chunk of land, and that's 462 acres north of Almar County. So my one in one equals two is that it's going to happen there. but I don't know for absolute certain. But that's what my crystal ball says. I think Green County is going to be hugely impacted by this.

Big time demand because of proximity. Barbersville, hugely impacted by this. Forest Lakes, Holly Mead, hugely impacted by this because of demand. He says there may be a need for an additional high school north of town. There's a need for an additional high school in northern Almore County, right now. Imagine what happens in Northern Amarro County, ladies and gentlemen, when Rivana Station, Rivana Futures are fully developed and when AstraZeneca and all these other

biotech schools come here. Biotech businesses and operation. Vanessa Parkhill, the Queen of Earlysville, watching the program. I think Vanessa Parkhill, Earlysville is going to have tremendous uptick and value. The fact that there are people upset about new business coming to the area blows my mind, and I live on the north side of town. She says, how do we leverage these new tech businesses to support public STEM-focused high school,

preferably in Almaro's urban ring? Thomas Leroy watching the broadcast. Bill McChesley, Logan Wells-Claylow, print radio and television. Vanessa Parko, AstroZetica, could probably locate in UVA's North Fork business park. I think there's plenty of space available. Conan Owen says, it makes sense for Astrozenica to be in that Rivana Station,

Rivana Future, because you need airport access for all the execs of the sales representatives. but the county needs to find other areas. South of 64 on Route 29, far west, Yancey's bill would make a great industrial office site, need to work on creating jobs closer to where people live. Conan Owen, the owner of Surveedia, Central Virginia, a business development.

Wizard, if you need help with any logo visibility, you call Conan Owen in Surveedia, Central Virginia. People can't say this. Before we get off this topic, people cannot say this, my real estate taxes are too expensive. How dare you raise the real estate tax rate four cents? And then say this, I don't want AstraZeneca coming here. It's bad for Almar County. That's hypocrisy.

Can't say both. You can say real estate taxes are too expensive. How dare you raise it four cents? when our median values from 2015 to 2025 upticked in Almaro County from 387,000 to 740,000. How dare you raise our real estate tax rate when you're collecting way more tax revenue on values alone, assessments alone? But you can never follow it up with we don't want more job growth. We don't want more incremental business. We don't want publicly traded companies investing billions of dollars in our county because they contradicts each other.

If your print, radio, or television, what you should be covering, Sean Tubbs, which you should be covering, Neil Williamson, which you should be covering, Charlottesville Tomorrow, which you should be covering. She should be covering the location of where AstraZeneca is going to build their plant, and you should FOIA, Freedom of Information Act request. Heck, first request it, then FOIA it. All the correspondence between the office and economic development of Almore County and anything tied to AstraZeneca to see how long that

this has been percolating. Get that information because Almaral Countyans deserve to know that. Emily Kilroy is a fantastic economic development head. Give her props. Let's give her her flowers for this AstraZeneca announcement, although it probably was before Kilroy was head of economic development. I believe at one time Kilroy was the communications director, if memory serves correctly of Almore County, and then got promoted to economic development head. In fact, I can verify this by checking out Emily's LinkedIn.

I'll load it right now. We'll give her her flowers on the show. Almore County is going to need a northern high school. If you think traffic is snarled right now in Halea in Forest Lakes, wait till you see what's going to happen. And Crozay.

And Crozai. Wait till you see what's going to happen. And yes, she was the director of communications and public engagement for Amar County from 2018 to 2022. Now she's the Economic Development Director of May 2024. This probably in fact, she may

get all the flowers for this. Director of Communication from 2018 to 2022, so she was in the room there. Even if she's Director of Communications and not Economic Director. at the economic director at the time. So gets her flowers. Come back on the show, Emily.

I know I asked you some very specific questions. Come back on the show, E.K. Come on, E.K. Come on the show. Anything you want to add to this? And then I'll get to Carol Thorpe. You can get to Carol Thorpe. Carol Thorpe says, Jerry, calling back to part of my comment from yesterday. wouldn't it greatly benefit Seafel if they would elect at least one or two people to city council with a modicum of business experience to work with these incoming companies in high-level schools? 100% Carol Thorpe, Quinny Jack Jewett, 100%.

100%. As we've both said, these are our elected officials. We elected them. If you're complaining about what they're doing, elects someone else. Let me ask you this question, viewers and listeners, is the city of Charlottesville being left behind and eating Al Morrow County's dust and dirt? It's like that Camaro that peels out on a dusty road and you're standing behind the Camero and as the V8 goes from zero to 60 in two, three, four, five seconds, and as they drop the clutch and hammer down and you're sitting behind there, just waving and coughing, go, is that Charlottesville city? Is Emily Kilroy doing laps around Chris Engel? What is the city of Charlottesville doing to keep up economic development-wise with Almore County?

And how much is it the city's fault? Or how much is it a land constraint fault? I was just thinking. How could an AstraZeneca or Eli Lilly even open in the city of Charlottesville? Yeah. Or how does the city create a strategy to ride the coattails of economic development in Amar County? How could it do that? If you're Sam Sanders and you're Chris Engel, you better be figuring that out immediately.

John Blair's got a comment. Love John Blair, smart guy. He was in a room yesterday with some smart people and he left this comment on the show that the AstraZeneca News immediately drives an additional 5% of value for Almaral County homes. that 5% might be light Judah John Blair says the bottom line is this inclusionary zoning has never worked in any community as advocates claim in terms of affordable housing

the 10% set aside distorts the market and discourages developers in the Jeff Levine type portfolio 500 to 200 to 200 units the only developers that can navigate inclusionary zoning are the big ones with projects of 400 or more they get 400 units or more They can make the 10% work due to a scale of units to absorb the profit

loss. And then he adds, James Watson is correct, there is a massive need for a new Northern Amarral High School. Love John Blair. Love James Watson. Love the viewers and listeners. Broke the news this week that Jeff Levine was selling 600 West Main. Or he had listed it for sale.

Heard through the grapevine. And I was told not to mention anything about it, but I was allowed to mention one thing that the Jeff Lillebine, 600 West Main, the asking price would surprise us and not surprise us from an expensive standpoint. Then I was told to keep it at my cap for now, but I was allowed to mention that. This comes in from a very connected person who said he needs discretion. This is not deep throat, but this is somebody who is elected that is asking for discretion. I need you to keep this anonymous, Jerry. I think it's a good thing, AstraZeneca. I don't think affordable housing will ever be solved by the free market,

but with the additional tax revenue from a business like this, we could use that for more infrastructure and to subsidize or build affordable housing. Also, part of affordable housing is whether there are higher-paying jobs that allow people to more easily afford a home. If the median wage increases relative to cost of housing, then by definition, housing has become more affordable. I'd rather the cost of housing increased due to higher wages than from retired boomers and NOVA residents outbidding everyone else. Great points. Not only retired boomers and NOVA residents moving down here, but nomadic zoomers and digital nomads.

Choosing to call home base here. Yeah. A comment came in on Real Talk this morning from a really, really smart guy that I want to relay to you. His name is Rob Neal, super smart guy. He says, the increase in cash sales in 2025, and ladies and gentlemen in Almorea County year to date, this according to the Paragon data that Keith Smith navigated during Real Talk this morning, of the 611 homes sold in Almorea County, new construction, new construction, and existing housing detached only

611 homes year to date 740,000 median value 35% of those were cash deals 35% Rob said the increase in cash deals in 2025

is in step with drastic higher sales prices and that points to AGI growth and it's not the real number that is pushing things it's balance sheets and wealth He says the wealth of the area is far outpacing the reported income of the area.

The biotech salaries will push the market AGI up, but not as much as the median balance sheet will be compared to pre-biotech boom. He says single-family detached loans will continue to rise due to wealth. Rental prices will increase due to income. AGI adjusted gross income. He alludes the adjusted gross income locally is way higher than the $125,800, the median value family household income. income according to HUD. Interesting. Could that be because of college students?

That's a good question. I've heard rumbling this lately that the census info doesn't do a good enough job of weeding out the UVA students which heavily skew the numbers one way or the other. Not only heavily skewed the numbers by the college students, but a lot of the lower-tiered employees at the University of Virginia that don't make a ton of wage. Grad assistants, teaching assistants, they live year-round in our accountant part of the census. Cafeteria workers, the blue-collar workers tied to UVA, impacting the census, impacting those numbers. But if those people are actually living full-time in the area, isn't that good and right that they're skewing the numbers?

skewing the numbers down. Yeah, but I mean if they are full-time residents, shouldn't they be a part of the numbers? They should be a part of it. They should be a part of it. But his point is that the numbers change.

Yeah. I had somebody that was a mover and shaker correct me. Listen to this. This is a crazy stat here. Someone that would know this answer, I'm not going to reveal who this person is, but they work in the banking business. I've said on this program, there's five

billionaires that live in the Charlottesville area, billion with the B. He said, Jerry, I listened to the show, and when you said there were five billionaires living in the area, he said there's way more than that. Wow. So it's not close to five. It's a way more

and way more than five. Definitely double digits. Wow. Yeah, he started rattle them off. By first and last name. Georgia Gilmer, response to Vanessa Parcoe, looking like that Western bypass

might have been a good idea after all. Georgia Gilmer says, yep, I can barely get out of the driveway now on some mornings, and it's just going to get worse. I'm going to tell you right now, if you're in the market to buy a house, you buy a house in the next 12 months. Geez, Louise, you better buy a house in like the next eight months because it ain't going to get cheaper.

And you're going to have a lot more buyer demand when those rates go down. And this fallout from AstraZeneca, Eli Lilly, Northrop, Brum, and biotech data science happens. Next headline, is that Gracie, Jiu-Jitsu? It is. Conan Owen dubbed it sweaty square, not seminal square. sweaty square you now have Gracie Jiu-Jitsu

moving into Seminole Square you have Seville smashed the pickleball facility about to open in Seminole Square and Dr. Halpern, the entrepreneur, the medical doctor, that is opening Coco's Adventure Central and indoor adventure park

in Sentinel Square. So Seminole Square goes from a sad empty afterthought that was about to go the way the dodo bird and the T-Rex.

It seemed like the forward-facing part of it was always doing okay. It looked pretty empty to me. I mean, you've got the new what is it, Soul Barbecue Joint, Korean Barbecue Joint. I try not to go north of Barracks Road.

I'd catch a lot of heat for that. you've got the car wash you've got the um there's a whole bunch of stuff in um in that area around uh what is it um the center kind of the center island of there then you've got the you know outback crack house we're an agreement that seminal square was empty a good portion of it right yeah the whole back end was so the empty part is getting filled and they're filling it with Omni Experiential businesses. They're filling it with business models that cannot be commoditized

or cannibalized by Walmart, Target, or Amazon, or the internet. You can't play pickleball on Amazon. Right. You can't do a trampoline park on Walmart.com. And you can't rear-naked choke

someone on the internet. Thank goodness. You have to do it in person. I don't want to know what you're rear naked choking on the internet. I said, thank goodness you can't. Sorry. But at Seminole Square, sweaty square, you can do all three, and they're all next to each other.

And they're going to open within a handful of months of each other. Let the sweat fly. And I think that's awesome. I think that's awesome. next headline what do you got you to wicker let's see uh jason miaris

I think you're probably right about it I think it's probably a political move to uh uh we see it every election cycle, you know, create a problem and explain how you're the solution. Jason Mayorese knows that the Almorioch is desperate. The Virginia GOP is desperate. Yeah. And the Virginia GOP is desperate with its chances of winning. multiple

races. It's in Merle-Series. She's not going to beat Spamberger. She's made up a lot of ground.

Jason Miari's, he's not going to win the Attorney General. John Reed, maybe the best shot of the three.

Closest of the three races. My prediction will be Reed. Actually, I might hold off on that because Miari's is the incumbent, and there's

a lot of value of being the incumbent. No doubt. Right now, I would say all three are at a disadvantage. Yeah. That's why all three are sending emails to the show asking for the platform and time to speak. Miari's goes on record and tries to call out Joe Plantania. Yeah.

Calls Joe Plantania soft on crime. And he tries to pin on Joe Plantania being soft on crime leading to more violence. What Jason Miari's is doing, is the oldest trick in the book. Stir up a bunch of bushes, shake the bushes, rattle the bushes, and see if you can get some copperhead snakes to show their faces.

And if you shake those bushes and you rattle those bushes and you disturb those bushes and some copperheads slither out of the bushes, it's going to scare some people into doing things. And hopefully scaring some people to doing things is voting for him. That's all he's doing. Yeah.

The reality is that Plantania was elected. Plantania was elected. He was elected. Again, how many times is Joe Plantania won? Isn't he in an election year right now? Joe Plantania, let's see. In 2021, he was seeking a second term. In 2021, according to Sievel tomorrow.

All right, why don't I just go to Seville? Evolpedia. Joe is a likable guy. Yeah. He's tough on gun crime. He's tough on violent offenders. We did have a discussion about this, what was it, a couple years ago? Prior to winning top prosecutor, Plantania served under former Commonwealth's attorney Dave Chapman. He joined the office in 2003.

Plantania successfully prosecuted James Fields in 2019 for the murder of Heather Hire. He's been the Commonwealth's attorney since 2018. This is what? It's third term here. Hingley is in the middle of his second term. Beat Robert Tracy in the first term race. Ran unopposed in the second. What Mierrez is doing with rattling the bushes to get some copperheads to show their heads,

show their faces to scare voters into doing something? is the oldest trick in the book. It's all he's doing. Next headline, what do you got? I think that's it. That's the show? I believe it is. Monday at 1015. Who do you got in the studio, Judah?

We've got a local star, Jeff Gaffney. Jeff Gaffney, good guy. And he is bringing with him another local star, Dr. Wayne Fry. A phenomenal preacher. Jeff Gaffney, the all-time points leader with UVA soccer who had a cup of coffee. Was it Jeff in the NFL? Who did Jeff Gaffney play in the NFL with?

A cup of coffee as a kicker. I should know that, Jeff. San Diego Chargers. It's an American former professional football kicker who played for the San Diego Chargers in the National Football League. He played college soccer at UVA. The Wikipedia says college football.

Did you kick for the UVA football team too, Jeff? I didn't know that. I know you're the all-time points score for UVA soccer. Did you kick on the football team too? William McChesley, did he kick on the football team? There's an article from 1985. Yeah, he kicked for the football team. For George Welsh.

He kicked the 47. seven-yard field goal for George Walsh. Jeff Gaffney, talented guy. Wayne Frye, another talented guy. I heard Dr. Wayne Fry speak on a chapel morning at the Covenant School. And he was invigorating, inspiring, intelligent. He was captivating. cool, charismatic, conversational.

I'm looking forward to it. I get a front row seat. Monday at 10.15 a.m., the Everyday Faith show with Jeff Gaffney and Dr. Wayne Fry. That's the talk show. Judah Wickhauer, yours truly, Jerry Miller. Thank you for joining us so long. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.