The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Surprise Fence Blocks Luce Pasta Business; Video Of Fence Installation From Luce Instagram

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you for joining us on a Wednesday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. Crazy to say that we are now, what, eight days removed from Christmas? It's possible. I don't believe it for a second. Judah's got all this Christmas shopping done, we know. A lot we're going to cover on today's program, including loose pasta.

showcasing a surprise fence installation on their Instagram stories will play the video from their Instagram today as we champion and stand up for small businesses locally. It seems according to their Instagram story that this surprise fence installation is legitimately blocking their easement. I mean, they straight up say this. They say, and I'll show you the video in a second, a surprise early Christmas gift from our neighbors, a fence that cuts off our easement and kitchen delivery door. This is the fantastic pasta hut right off the downtown mall, and one of the brands, one of a key brand in a fantastic family of F&B businesses. I mean, this is the sister restaurant to Bizzou, to bang, to crush pad wines, and the event space, the space downtown.

We'll show you that video in about a minute and a half. I want to talk about vape shops on today's show. Policy and legislation is creating a lot of headwinds for vape shops come 2026, and frankly speaking, it's about darn time. Some of the stuff that's being sold in these vape shops, especially the sub-tier or the second-rate vape shops locally, is clearly illegal, clearly black market, and clearly unregulated. I'm going to ask you this question, as the policy and legislation comes to fruition on the very near horizon, 2026, I expect we'll see some closing of these vape shops because the fines are, it's $1,000 a day.

Per instance. Per unregulated vape or cartridge or product or skew. $1,000 a day per unregulated skew, they're going to be sending undercover authorities into these vape shops to police the regulation. But are they? It'll be above board, yeah, they will. I mean, bring us up a question.

It's already happening. If they're already selling unregulated stuff. We'll talk about that when we get you on a two-shot, so they can see your face. We'll talk the parking garage. I took a very aggressive stance yesterday, and that stance is now turned up in the CIVO Weekly and the Dave McNair's DTM today. In regards to the technology at parking garages, Water Street, and Market Street,

they are collecting license plates, vehicle types, passengers in your car, and they are not deleting the data. if you had an issue with the fly camera as goodness gracious how do you not have an issue with what is happening at the market street and water street parking garages and it calls him to question the judgment of city hall rolling this system out that conversation on today's show david is it i'm going to go david baldachi yeah i think that's right the uva law commencement speaker that story in a matter of moments on on on the broadcast the guy is um noteworthy extremely famous uh author David Baldacci, and we'll offer you the details of his selection as commencement speaker of UVA law school, and I'm going to ask you the question. Judith's going to ask you the question. Are oysters a part of your Christmas and holiday feasting tradition? I love oysters. Love raw oysters, baked oysters, fried oysters, love oysters. A lot of people don't love oysters. Huge fan of oysters. My wife loves oysters as well. A lot to cover on the broadcast.

We'll highlight Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, 61 consecutive years in business. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply on East High Street and online at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com. The Vermillion family, John and Andrew Vermilion and their family, own this business. They're five generations in Amarral County, the Vermilions. They have launched a sister company, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, which you can find online at Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company.com. This sister company, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, will help you soup to nuts on anything swimming pool related.

I'm talking water testing. I'm talking pool consultation. I'm talking automatic covers. I'm talking the non-machine and automatic covers, the building and construction of swimming pools, anything swimming pool related. Charlottesville swimming pool company and Charlottesville Sanitary Supply can help you. Juneau, studio camera, then two-shot a Wednesday in downtown Charlottesville. A little bit warmer today. It was somewhat tolerable to be outside. This pasta story You want to put it in perspective for the viewers and listeners Well, as far as we can tell And we may need some help Figuring out where this video is actually taking place

Because it doesn't look recognizable to me But I know it's, we know it's on the downtown mall Looks very recognizable to you To me I know exactly where this is Do you? Yeah, well we'll show it to the viewers and listeners it's on Market Street.

The video is showing part of Market Street. You see the code building in the background and you see the neighboring building next to Loose Pasta. Okay. But go ahead. So what's happened is apparently the people running loose pasta. Travis Burgess. Travis Burgess came to work this morning.

Insane. Wednesday. To find that the city had put up a metal fence not a well we don't know it's the city we don't know it's the city we definitely don't know it's the city there's talking about the city approved this fence installation he's chalking this up to the neighbors doing the fence installation we don't know this is the city gotcha yeah in fact the copy says when the this is straight from the instagram page when the city of charlottesville the board of architectural review and the fire chief all approved this monstrosity of a fence so clearly and deliberately designed to

sabotage your business without any notice wishing you a merry christmas to you too city of charlesville and board of architectural review then they posted on the loose pasta page and on the loose pasta page they say wild to get a surprise early christmas gift from our neighbors a fence that cuts off our easement and kitchen and delivery door and then they ask city hall by tagging them was this fence approved by you show the videos let's put them on screen this is not the city's fence installation understood they are calling out the city for approve it

so this is a pasta I'd say a pasta hut a pasta window the actual loose is yeah it's a tiny little hut on the corner of a building

and the videos are playing uh no take a look at the screen Judah's going to cue the video up give us the thumbs up when that's on screen and play it back to back you have three total videos right

all right let's put those back Left-back, Luce Pasta, the sister restaurants, Tabizu, which is one of the founding fathers of downtown fighting. It used to be the, what, the Metropolitan? Bang Seaville, one of the sister restaurants of Luce Pasta, Crushpad Blinds, a sister brand to Luce Pasta. James Watson says,

isn't it ever pronounced Luce but a spell loose? I thought it was Luce, Judah corrected me. I don't know. If it was Luchet, then it was wrong, but I thought it was Lich. James, I'm going to go with you a sandwich regardless the food is good we may not be able to say your name but we are standing up for you with this fence. We found it curious that this fence is up there. You went and took a look at it. You didn't see where the fence was. I'm curious to see what happens there. Spencer Pushard watching the program. Why would you waste money fencing against the walls beyond me?

Spencer Pushard, I felt the same thing. I'm going to be some kind of ulterior mode there. They're very curious to see what happens. I'm going to go take a look at it after the show and see what's going on over there. Regardless, we found it curious, and that's why we're playing it for you, the viewer and listener on the water cooler of content and conversation, in downtown Charlestville. Yeah, that's great.

Anything else you want to add to the Luce pasta story? I mean, yeah, I would be livid. I would be tempted to tear the thing down. I wouldn't do that, because then you're liable for it. Right. I would still be tempted, and I wouldn't blame them that they were. But yeah, this is nuts. In one of the videos we just played, it shows the fence.

it's legitimately blocking an exit door to a building. How is that approved? I mean, how is that approved? I just don't see how that would be approved. That's like in the back of the Macklin building, putting a fence up to block the exit of, exit door of this building. That's a fire liability and hazard.

Like, it's literally an exit. Curious of your thoughts, viewers, and listeners, we found that curious, and we wanted to put it on the radar because we've seen when we talk about stuff on this show then it turns up in the new cycle this should be in the new cycle.

Another thing that should be in the new cycle is the cameras. Put the lower third on screen for the cameras. I know I'm hopping around here. We talked about this on yesterday's program. I literally asked you the viewer and listener the hypocrisy or the idiocy of

banning flock cameras activists in this community revolting against flock cameras, which are cameras strategically placed around the city to help the police department apprehended and catch criminals. The flock cameras have been hugely beneficial to the police department and catching criminals. If you're not doing anything wrong,

why are you worried about the flock cameras? I talked to the fixer that was on the downtown mall. He goes by the acronym, by the nickname on this show, The Fixer, and he said, Literally, he said to me as I was passing him on the mall, I listened to your show, those cameras who are 100% right, hugely beneficial for the police and catching criminals. And I said yesterday, how are the activists revolting against the fly cameras, you know, organizing and activating against the fly cameras, but not against the downtown parking artificial intelligence

and the Market Street and Water Street garages due to Wickhauer? This is a massive company, the metropolis. that is taking over not just our parking garages, but parking garages across the United States. And where Flock was a closed system that had no outside access and was only accessible by people with authorization. In contrast, the metropolis cameras

that will be put into the garage are a system that spans the United States and will be capturing license plates and like you said yesterday license plates vehicle types passengers in people's cars coming and going yeah they literally are tracking your scheduling

we're trying to pick up the tempo here they're tracking like your schedule they're coming and going inside of the garages and on top of that folks the company is going to sell your data to advertisers. This company is gone on an aggressive spending of taking over parking garages. They've done it in Charlottesville.

And it's an AI company. It's a very young company, just a few years old, six years old, backed by $1.8 million. They just got $1.8 billion last year in funding. And this company is legitimately tracking your life. license plates, your vehicle model, your vehicle color, the passengers in your cars, the coming and goings of your vehicles into the garage on times and days, tracking your data. This is way worse than

flock. Way worse than flock. And this is, before we get off this topic, I find this fascinating. We know that City Hall and City Council called a boatload of grief from a, a, a, 100 to 150 people locally that we call activists about the flat camera and the centralization and the potential breach of data with those flat cameras. And then almost the very next day, weeks later, weeks later, they approve another artificial intelligence and AI tracking company, video tracking company, to manage the ins and outs of parking garage and the payment that goes with it. And what's worse is the aside...

Where's the judgment? Aside from the cameras, the company is already facing a number of class action lawsuits for overcharging people and mishandling personal information. Yeah, I mean, this is... This company literally is the company that does the dirty stuff of, oh, you forget to check out? of the parking garage, we're going to send you a notification and charge you a full day's fee and then make our website so difficult to use that you'll never be able to get on the phone with customer service to fight the overcharge and we'll hope you'll just be aggravated

and forget about it and then we'll be able to keep the money. It's the tactics that we've seen utilize with like Dominion. It's the tactics we've seen utilize with like Xfinity and Comcast and Verizon. in cell phone companies. And it may not even all be a problem of overcharging because here we see there are

reviews on Better Business Bureau and Trust Pilot from people being charged for parking somewhere. They didn't park. I received a parking notice from Metropolis for $10 plus a $54.50 notice fee stating that I failed to pay for parking. And this is for someone

that, you know, imagine signing up on their website and all of a sudden and you're getting charged for parking when you didn't. Deep throw watching the program, number one in the family. He says this, I wonder if people who lease spaces in the garage could have a complaint. They are locked into a lease, but they never agreed to have their data tracked or sold. Obviously, people who just come in and park on an off basis, it could be said they could just avoid the lot, unlike people with a lease.

He also says this, by the way, who controls the garage operations? Is it Mark Brown? or did the settlement give total control of the parking to the city? Mark Brown is the parking, the former owner of the Charlottesville parking, the Charlottesville ice skating rink. Mark Brown only owns, listens to this show Mark Brown. Mark Brown only owns the Water Street garage, but the city is managing both the Water Street and Market Street garage. The city owns the Market Street garage, okay? Mark Brown gets $1.8 million plus dollars per year.

for the city to rent the Water Street parking garage from Mark Brown's company, Charlottesville Parking Center. I'll give this to you again. The city owns the Market Street parking garage. The city rents the Water Street parking garage from an entity called the Charlottesville Parking Center. Mark Brown is the Charlottesville Parking Center, and he's collecting more than $1.8 million a year

from the city who is renting his garage. So before we get off this topic and move to the next one, I want you to understand the judgment showed by the city. Okay, here's the judgment showed by the city. The city got huge grief about flock cameras. City police chief, Mike Kachis, a friend of the program, caught flak from about 100 people, 150 people, whether you call them the poverty mafia, whether you call them the housing mafia, whether you call them the bike and pedestrian lane,

mafia, whether you call them the homeless mafia, whether you call them the, the anti-business mafia, it's the same damn people that are doing this. I'm getting frustrated now. Gotches catches grief from the housing mafia, the police mafia, the bike and pedestrian mafia, the flock camera mafia, the homeless mafia, the bench on the downtown mall mafia, over flock cameras and the centralization of data and the potential for breach, and basically on the premise of invading our privacy. Yet mere weeks after the police chief catches this flak because of flock, the city chooses to implement artificial intelligence technology

to manage the payment systems for the Market Street and Water Street garages and rolls out an AI tech stack that is way more centralization of data and way more capturing of data. schedules, who's in your car, making model of your car, your license plate, your credit card information, Jesus. Your credit card information. And then I'll close with this.

What happens to my parents who have a flip phone and they cannot download this app? Does that mean my parents cannot use the parking garages when they visit downtown? My 76, soon to be 76 year old father who can barely walk? Yeah. Is that what it means? Yeah.

Judgment, decision making from the city, I call into question. Next topic. Judah Wickhara, what do you got? Oh, let's see. The vape ones. Put the vape one on screen. This is a long time coming, okay? Set the who, what, when, where, why, on

the vape shops. How many vape shops are in this damn town in Charlottesville, now, Marlowe County? A vape shop just took over the Waffle House down Fifth Street extended, a hop skip, and a jump away from Monticello High School. Vap shop story, Judah Wickhauer. Well, they have some changes coming.

Come December 31st, only approved vapes and devices will be allowed on shelves. Products must be approved by the Attorney General. I'm not sure how they will get that information disseminated out to all of the multitudinous vape shops around Virginia. but violators who are selling the wrong products

could see fines of $1,000 per day for each product that's unapproved. I hope this, as a free market guy, as a capitalist, the fixer, this when I stopped and talked with the fixer on the downtown mall today, he said you're a capitalist, your mindset is so woven into a capitalistic mindset. You will not understand how the poverty mafia ever thinks. Literally is what he told me, like to my face. And I nodded my head and I'm like, I think you're exactly right. It was how it applies to the homeless on the downtown mall.

And he also agreed the fixer that when Jen Fleischer is on council and Brian Pinkston comes off counsel, Fleischer, Payne and Natalie Oshran will control Charlottesville as a voting block of three people. And mental health and poverty mafia mindset mentality is going to dominate council meetings in the dais. Okay, the Vap story as a free market guy as a capitalist, as a libertarian, okay? Most identify as a libertarian. I am glad that we're having some regulation here.

I talked to David Trekirichy, who owns Skuma, client of our firm, scuma boutique dispensary, and he says there's so many vape shops doing things so incredibly illegally around here that 18, 19-year-old kids, underage children that are not being carded are buying some of the most toxic crap possible.

There's a commercial that's running on the Peacock app. I'm on a Yellowstone Bender right now. We have the Peacock app, and they have the rights to the Yellowstone series. One of the most significant television shows of our generation. The Sopranos of this generation is Yellowstone. And there's a commercial that's running that's so well done. It's a taxidermy. It's a shop that does taxidermy.

and there's these stuffed animals everywhere, like a bear, like a fox, like a deerhead, like all these taxidermy, and they start talking to each other, right? And they see a kid outside the taxidermy store that's vaping, and the stuffed deer and the stuffed fox start talking to each other. And they say, you see that kid over there? He's vaping. The chemicals that are in a lot of vapes right now are akin to what made us stuffed in taxidermy. me, formaldehyde. Some vapes, your kids, are vaping for meldhyde. We need to regulate vape shops and the product they're selling without question, and we have to police and enforce these vape shops that are selling poison to our children. I say that as a father of two

young children. And then I'm going to ask you this question. Put the next lower third on screen. If these headwinds with the vape shops, a thousand dollar a day fine for selling a legal product per skew are potentially cancerous or deftly to these vape shops and put them out of business, what's the next retail trend that's going to fill all these vape shops locally? Because we know why the vape shops are successful. It takes one sales associate to staff the business and you're selling inventory that does not expire or go bad that has obscene markups. You're selling addiction.

You're selling addiction. So what's the next retail trend that'll replace these vape shops? That topic on tomorrow's show. Viewers and listeners are watching the program. James Watson, his photo on screen, very smart guy. He says, unfortunately, Jerry and Judah, if you have a cell phone, if you have a credit card and a social media account, you're pretty much being tracked already.

You notice the show America's Most Won and it doesn't come on TV anymore because it's probably impossible to be a fugitive. I agree with everything you said, James. the difference between having a cell phone and a credit card and a social media account is I'm choosing to opt into that. I'm choosing to sign up for the Instagram account, choosing to have the credit card, and choosing to have the iPhone 17.

When I pull into the garage, that is forced upon me. Parking in this garage with artificial intelligence, managing the garage that's collecting my license plate, the make and model of my car, who, what passengers are in my car and my daily schedule of going in and out of that

parking garage. I mean, James has a good point that you can choose not to park in the garage. How does my 76-year-old father choose not to park in the garage? Okay, but just to push. That cannot walk.

But just to push back. Is a 70-year-old who has trouble... He has a flip phone. Yeah, but let's say that they can't. part there, are they worried about being tracked? Hell yeah. My 76-year-old father is extremely conspiratory. A hundred percent worried about being tracked.

My 76-year-old father, for a large portion of his life, would not even pay his mortgage online for fear of data being captured. Instead, chose to do it with snail mail. I had to explain to him over and over again. The exposure of paying your mortgage snail mail and check wiping is way more risky than paying your mortgage through a secure portal online. But it was paranoia.

It was a different kind of thinking. Hell, yeah, he's concerned about that. But regardless of whether he's concerned or not, is there any real concern for him apart from his own conspiratorial concerns that he's being tracked? Look, when it comes down to it, my main issue with this is

city council and city hall choosing to eradicate the flock of cameras because the activist mafia ripped them a new one and then a couple of weeks later they choose to implement AI for their parking garages that's way more intrusive,

way more data centralized and way more potential breach of contact it's an effing startup that's doing this the other one that was running the flock cameras is Palantir, a publicly traded company a global brand that's my issue. Neil Williams you're 100% right. He says this, my 2026 prediction, thought leader Jerry Miller will continue to park on the street and collect cost of business parking tickets. A hundred percent right. I get eight to ten, six to ten parking tickets a year. Okay? I park on the street. I don't park in the garage. I don't have a parking pass. I don't spend $135 a month on a parking pass. I get six to ten, $20 parking tickets a year, parked directly in front of the Macklin building. I pay my fine and I'm driving. I'm driving.

driving incremental tax revenue for the city of Charlottesville. And I have convenience with my parking, right in front of the studio. Ten parking tickets a year is $200. Monthly parking pass in the Market Street garage is $135. A month. And I don't have my data collected to re-me later by some Igor, the Russian hacker, who hacks into Metropolis's technology backend. You know that's true.

Next topic, Judah Wickcaro. What do you got? Let's see, David Baldacci. Baldacci is the commencement speaker at the Charlottesville at the UBA Law School. This guy's a beast, right? He's a 1986 graduate of the University of Virginia Law School. He's going to be the commencement speaker of the class of 2026, UVA law, May 17th. He's published more than 50 national and international best-selling novels for adult readers.

His first book, Absolute Power, in 1996, was made into a movie starring and directing by, starred and was directed by Clint Eastwood. His most recent was Nash Falls, a thriller. Last year's A Calamity of Souls follows two lawyers defending their wrongfully accused black clients in a racially charged murder trial in 1968. Virginia won the Virginia Literary Awards People's Choice Prize. Dude's a beast. He's going to be the commencement speaker of UVA law in May. That's a hell of a score for the UVA law school. Baldacci, baby, Baldacci. The final topic on the program today at the 102 marker, oysters? Oysters.

Fried oysters, baked oysters, raw oysters. Give me all the oysters. I want all the oysters. And I want it with that hot stuff that you sprinkle on the oysters. What's that hot stuff? The horseradish. Horse radish. Give me that horse radish.

Make my nose burn. Make this big schnaz burn and clear it up. I'm fighting something off. Give me some horseradish right now. So we're curious, and I guess you can reply tomorrow, I was at least curious if people do oysters. I like oysters too, but I've never known them to be a holiday, a Christmas part of your meal or your festivities,

at least not with my family or any other family that I know. However, on Charlottesville.gov, they are having a don't chuck the shuck this holiday season. What does that even mean? It means that they will take all of your oyster shells for a recycling program that goes to help the Chesapeake Bay, which is great. I just was surprised because I was like, wait, is the holiday season a big time for oysters for people? All right. I'll take all the oysters. Well, I know you will. Public fish and oyster, Daniel Kaufman, got a fantastic oyster special on a happy hour.

Janice Boistervillian, thank you for sending us to Luce video or forwarding it from their Instagram. stories. She says, why would you do a fence installation knowing you're going to hurt a neighboring business? They're literally blocking their kitchen and delivery door. Jeremy Wilson's watching in Eastern Tennessee. Chesapeake crab cakes, yes, but oysters. No, no, no, no. Georgia Gilmer's flabbergasted by City Hall's choice of the AI technology at the parking garage and the crushing of the flock cameras. It just makes no sense to me. It shows poor judgment. John Blitz, Blair's watching the program. He says the biggest issue with the vape shops is the fact that they are selling them to youth.

He says his son. And John Blair, I have your Christmas card right here. It was fantastic. I love this Christmas card with your son here. You, your wife in your background, little Homer Simpson, choking Bart Simpson. And the instructions on the back are great. This is absolutely fantastic. We're going to highlight some of this on tomorrow's show, your Christmas card, John Blair.

And Carol Thorpe, the Queen of Jack Jewett. Thank you for mailing us a Christmas card as well. And a Hanukkah card. And a Hanukkah card for Protestant Judah Wickhauer. I'm not a Protestant, but I'm also not Jewish. John Blair says the biggest issue with the vape shops is they're selling to minors. That his kid rides a bus and six and eighth graders on the bus are vaping like fruity pebbles, flavored vapes. What these kids are vaping is terrifying.

It's poison. All right, that's the show on a Wednesday. We have a 1.30. Thank you kindly for watching the program. Judah Woodcower, Jerry Miller, the water cooler content and conversation, the I Love Seville Show, so long.