The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Terra Restaurant Opening (Old Red Pump Spot); New Restaurant Updates - Old Guajiros Spot

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

The I Love CVille Show headlines: Terra Restaurant Opening (Old Red Pump Spot) New Restaurant Updates – Old Guajiros Spot UVA Fraternity FOA Terminated Over Hazing Third UVA Fraternity Terminated In 2 Years What Is The Future Of Fraternities & Sororities Louisa’s D. Straley Named Top Superintendent Top 50 Largest Employers In Orange County Dave Matthews Band Into Rock & Roll HOF Read Viewer & Listener Comments Live On-Air The I Love CVille Show airs live Monday – Friday from 12:30 pm – 1:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The I Love CVille Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us. It's Wednesday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville, less than two miles from the University of Virginia, Thomas Jefferson's University, right around the corner from the police department and a block away from both the downtown mall

and the courthouses of alamaro county in the city of charlottesville take a look at the screen for today's headlines a lot we're going to cover on the program including a new restaurant opening on the downtown mall we got the top headline cut off a bit you could just go comma old red pump spot so they're not cut off like that. Having a little buffer on those headlines is important for the viewers and listeners. We got restaurant news. We got fraternity and sorority news. We got Doug Straley named one of the top superintendents out there. Sean Tubbs doing some fantastic reporting per usual.

He's going to influence today's program with his Town Crier Productions content. Dave Matthews banned a well-deserved Hall of Fame induction, and you, the viewer and listener, your comments live on air. We'll talk a little bit about what Rob Schilling reported as well about a change in policy when it comes to bathroom usage in Alamaro County Public Schools. Do you need to reconnect YouTube there, Judah? It seems that YouTube needs to be reconnected

for the viewers and listeners that are watching on the program. In fact, definitely needs to be reconnected there. A lot we're going to cover today. I was walking on the downtown mall, and let us know when that's live so I can let the viewers and listeners know that, Judah Wickar. I was walking on the downtown mall and let us know when that's live so I can let the viewers and listeners know that due to work hour. I was walking on the downtown mall today and I saw, as I was walking the mall, I normally do a couple of walks each day. One of the benefits of the studio being in downtown Charlottesville, I saw the signage posted on the glass doors of Red Pump Kitchen. And it's an ABC permit. And it's a

kind of a call to action for hiring at the old Red Pump location. This is certainly news. This is one of the most marquee positions on the downtown mall, the Red Pump Kitchen location that's pretty much sat dormant since the onset of COVID. Red Pump owned by the Dean Porter organization. They're the folks that own Pippin Hill, and they have a couple of other locations that they own that are out of market. They are Easton Porter, I believe is what it's called. Aaron King, welcome to the show. They closed Red Pump location, this NCAP location, right at the 4th and downtown mall intersection at the beginning of COVID.

And it sat vacant pretty much for four years, four years and change. They've tried private events and some other concepts over at Red Pump, but nothing materialized. The overhead at this location is substantial because it's a large location and it's got fantastic foot and drive-by traffic. Well, as I was walking the mall and I looked on the windows, I saw an ABC permit, which is required with the restaurant to announce that, hey, we're going to open here, let the community know. It's called Terra Restaurant, T-E-R-R-A. If you follow us on Instagram, you'll see the ABC permit notice. You will see the names on the permit, and you will see the call to action for hiring bartender servers and line cooks. I find this is positive news. You got a location that is one of the most prominent ones in downtown Charlottesville that is going to be filled, we hope, very quickly. You still have others that are vacant, that have been vacant for some time, but hopefully there's a domino effect.

That leads us to our second headline. This was in Sean Tubbs and the Town Crier Productions content publishing machine. A new restaurant is coming to the old Guajiros location. The old Guajiros location was the old L'Etoile, the old parallel 38 spot next to Continental Divide. Sean does a good job of scouring the public notices that are affiliated with the Daily Progress, and he highlighted this one in his content today. scouring the public notices that are affiliated with the Daily Progress.

And he highlighted this one in his content today. It's going to be Ethos Wine and Tea. Ethos Wine and Tea through an LLC called Phoenix Collective LLC, the old Guajiros location at 817 West Main Street. So I asked you last week on the talk show, the community, are we seeing any new restaurants launching in the city or Almaral? Here's potentially two in prominent spots.

Tara coming to the downtown mall, the old Red Pump spot, and as reported by Sean Tubbs, props where props is due, Ethos Wine and Tea with their LLC, Phoenix Collective LLC, opening soon. Good news. Challenges both locations will have, certainly hiring and labor, the first one that they're going to have to clear. Regardless, I want to give them spotlight on the talk show for opening in prominent spots and certainly not low-rent spots. We'll weave Judah Wittkower into the mix on a two-shot on this storyline. Which one intrigues you the most? The Guajiros opening or the Red Pump location opening? The old Guajiros spot or the old Red Pump spot? I'm glad that somebody's

taken up the slack where Guajiros left off in that spot, but I think it's a great thing that there's a new place opening up on the downtown mall and one less empty storefront. Yeah. The Rent Pup spot is huge. Guajiro's spot, the old Guajiro's spot, not as big. Yeah. Which one do you think has the most challenges? Definitely Guajiros. I think it's in an awkward spot.

It doesn't have a lot of street parking. There's some parking around back that you can find, but I don't know if everybody knows about that. So I think it might be a bit of a headwind, uh, for, for a restaurant there. Uh, whereas the, the, the old red pump spot is going to have obviously

foot traffic left and right. It looks like you've got to connect the, uh, YouTube channel again. We can confirm that that's connected. that's two drops. If we can get the third one up and finalize, that would be great. I agree with the man's take here. I think the overhead is certainly going to be greater with the red pump spot, but that overhead could be offset with the foot traffic and the brand exposure. You look at the old Guajiros location, props to the Guajiros brothers for having success at that location. That is a challenging spot in the city. You don't have clear-cut parking, and it's a very unique footprint or quirky layout.

Guajiros made it work. Latois made it work. Parallel 38 struggled to make it work, although that could be for other reasons, which I'm not going to get into on today's show. No, for a lot of reasons. I don't even have to open that Pandora's box. For those who know what happened there,

they know what happened there. And that's a conversation that I don't want to have on a talk show and a microphone and in front of cameras still this is good news this is very good news for the downtown mall now the next location that I think is prominent that needs to open is draft tap room the Stefan-owned draft taproom needs to open. This one is extremely visible, and it's got, as we've highlighted in previous shows, a houseless individual living in its doorway around the clock with his possessions in the doorway.

I also want to highlight that the old Blue Ridge Country store, there's chitter-chatter what that could become in the near future. I will allow the owner of, or the entrepreneur behind what's coming there to break that news. But you have two now prominent spots, Draft Tap Room and the old Blue Ridge Country store that need to open to strengthen that side of the mall.

That side of the mall has always been vulnerable, the pavilion side of the mall. And it's particularly been vulnerable with Draft Tap Room, Blue Ridge Country Store, and Red Pump Kitchen shuttered for years. I mean, Draft Taproom and Red Pump have been shuttered for four years. Blue Ridge Country Store is now going on, what, roughly six months and change, roughly. So when three of your anchors on the pavilion side of the mall have no activity whatsoever, that creates a vibe and an energy that is discouraging to head that way. Red Pump opening hopefully solves that discouragement or eases that discouragement. So if you're just tuning into the program, and are we up and running on YouTube? Yeah. We are? Confirmed? Fantastic. For those that are

watching on YouTube, bear with us, please. Bear with us. And thank you for getting it up. And it's, yep, I'm seeing it. And you're seeing it live and in charge there? Okay, thank you very much. Alright, for those that are just tuning in, old Guajiro spot's going to get filled and the old

Red Pump spot's going to get filled. Tara coming to the old Red Pump spot, and according to Sean Tubbs, and he's highlighting the public Red Pump's spot's going to get filled. Terra coming to the old Red Pump spot. And according to Sean Tubbs, and he's highlighting the public notice that's in the Daily Progress, a retail wine and beer spot for Ethos Wine and Tea is going to open there. So that's good news right there, ladies and gentlemen. All right, next storyline is one where you set the table for Judah on UVA fraternities in hot water. And I was a Phi Kappa Psi guy at UVA. That's the fraternity right at the end of the Mad Bull on Rugby Road. I'll offer some firsthand perspective of, and I

have in years past, what it was like to be a pledge and then social and rush chair for Phi Kappa Psi. Fraternities in particular at UVA are in a precarious position, and I don't think the future of these organizations is very strong, and I don't think UVA wants them to be, frankly, very strong, and even being more straightforward, the brothers that make up the fraternities at UVA right now are putting themselves in terrible positions. All right, Judas, set the stage for this. So we've got Theta Chi and Sigma Alpha Mu fraternities, which are both facing temporary

suspensions. And we've got Pi Kappa Alpha, which is looking at having its FOA terminated for a minimum of four years. And I believe that the Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity is also having its, what do you call the… Charter. Yeah, its charter. No, I mean the above. Oh, its national chapter. Yeah, I believe its national chapter is also bringing charges against it.

They are not happy with the actions of the UVA fraternity. And sadly, this doesn't seem to be an isolated, these aren't isolated events at UVA. I believe there was another, one of the fraternities was suspended in January, so this is the second fraternity in a very short amount, in this semester that is having issues and it's the

third fraternity in just two years that has had its FOA terminated. Maybe you can shed some more light on what it's like being in fraternity and why it is they turn to hazing. Well, I mean, hazing is part of the history of fraternity life at UVA. And if you're in these fraternities, one of the aspects of joining them is the perks that come with having pledges. You mean getting to do things to them? I mean, is that a perk? Really? I mean, isn't that a little bit

sociopathic? The brothers are... This has been going on for centuries. That doesn't change? This literally has been going on for centuries. I mean, you can make in a lot of ways the hazing that you see with fraternities where you're paying your dues. And we should characterize or quantify hazing. Hazing that involves anything of physical violence or hazing that involves anything of sexual violence or hazing that involves anything of hurting physically other people, that's criminal. That's not hazing.

That is criminal. forward, drinking too much, being forced to clean the house, being forced to clean the brother's rooms, cleaning up or setting up before and after parties, running laps, doing push-ups, doing wall sits. I've told previous stories of the hell week including swallowing goldfish, live goldfish. But the mindset, and I don't want to speak for all brothers, but the mindset of what we were a part of was like, this was a ritual that had been done for years at our house. And if we went through it, others should go through it to get to the position of joining. And that's what is clearly still happening on grounds.

Now, the difference when I was there, 2000 to 2004, was we had far less oversight. We had one dean. It was Dean Aaron Loschoway, if memory serves correct. That was his name, who was in charge of the fraternities and sororities, and he was very much like don't ask, don't tell type of hands-on oversight. Don't kill anyone. Now that's not the case. And I will even take it a step further. I think fraternities and sororities, whether fair or not, have been stigmatized by national, regional, and local media as an old boys club, a club of wealthy insiders. And these labels, these stigmas, these scarlet letters are causing these fraternities to die the death of a thousand cuts. And the death of a thousand cuts, the proverbial thousand cuts in this scenario is way more oversight.

Way more willingness of pledges to report what's happening. We had a pledge at VCU die from this. Virginia Commonwealth University from drinking too much. And the current climate of fraternities and sororities, brotherhoods at these houses, I guess have to understand that it's a completely different world we live in. And the strategies that the initiation challenges, if you may, that were utilized in the past probably don't apply to today anymore. I mean, would you say

it's okay to have pledges clean the house? Yeah, I think that's fine. Would you say it's okay for the pledges to bring you lunch and dinner from the corner to your house if you provide them your credit card, it's not them paying for it. They're going to ask to go pick up a little John Subbot and bring it back to you. Yeah, I think that's... I think at the...

Run laps around the Mad Bowl. Do you have a problem with that? Around the what? Around the Mad Bowl on Rugby Road. Sure. Wall sits. Do you have a problem with that? Not really.

Push-ups? No, not really. What's the point where the problem, the area is a problem? Is it drinking to the point of danger? Forced to drink to the point of danger? I would definitely say that counts. In fact, you tossing that in there before expanding on some of the other things that's involved in hazing kind of surprised me.

You said drinking to excess. Well, obviously, sometimes that can be a terrible thing. Sometimes I can lead to death. So you're asking what? 20? I mean, at that point, at that point, some of these fraternity brothers probably aren't even old enough. Some of the ones that are, that are initiating these things probably aren't even old enough to, to buy drinks themselves. Some of them are, and the pledges that are going through them, the pledges that are going through this are often second semester, first years. So you're talking 18, 19 year olds. And to Judah's point, the second years that it just became brothers are often below 21.

Yeah. And so my point was, the point that I was getting to was that, uh, how are, are we expecting those people to have the, uh, the maturity to know when to stop, uh, you know, pushing someone to drink more, uh, pushing someone to do, you know, one more, you know, we've heard of other issues where, what was it? Somebody had their head put through a wall or something? I forget what the exact injury was. But, you know, I get it. I think it's probably similar to what a lot to bind the people together, get them closer together, help them become brothers in name, if not in, you know, if not in blood, obviously. But there is that, you know, too far. There's definitely too far. There's that too far there's definitely too far

and you may find this hard to believe but I was the guy once past pledging and into the fraternity at FISAI I was the guy that went to the pledges and multiple years of pledges can confirm this some of them actually watch the show

that I would go to him and say stop doing this take a break multiple years of pledges can confirm this. Some of them actually watch the show. That I would go to them and say, stop doing this, take a break. When folks were forcing them to take shots or do wall sits or do push-ups or pound keg beer that was skunk that had been sitting outside and then we'd tap it after two weeks of it sitting in the sun

and it'd be literally nasty vinegary type fluid. Be like, stop. stop doing this take a break i appreciate that i think the university it's in a unique position because you look at some of the solidarity activities yeah football the football team is struggling terribly. When I was at UVA, fraternity and sorority life accounted for roughly 35 to 40 percent of the population of students. That number has significantly diminished. When I was at UVA, and alumni can confirm that have gone through UVA, the corner bar scene was way stronger than what it is now. And you look at the college experience

at the University of Virginia, this experience has become way more politics, way more protesting, way more activism, way more wokeism than when I was there. When I was there 20 years ago, less than 20 years ago,

it was much more party, much more sports, much more get after it. The experience has completely changed. And that experience changing has an impact at culture at UVA. When we were there, there was no Fs by the Anti-Defamation League,

like the F they just handed out to UVA today when it came to anti-Semitism. When I was there, it was no protest on the lawn when it came to Israel, Hamas, Palestine, Gaza. But was that more a function of what was going on at the time? No, I think it's a direct function of social media. I think it's a direct function of today's student being way more connected with everything. When we were there, there was not social.

So all we knew was the UVA bubble. In fact, we even termed it the bubble. You don't leave the bubble. You stay within the bubble. And the bubble extended to, like, orbit. Yeah, but what about... Which is now Boylan Heights. Yeah, but there were...

There is no bubble. But there were protests at Kent State decades ago. I'm just saying that I understand that with our connection to everything through social media, there is a greater tendency, most likely, of students to be aware of what's going on around the world. Today's student is speaking before city council meetings in city council chambers, waiting for hours for the public portion comment of a city council meeting

to talk or offer their perspective on housing density in Charlottesville. Today's student is speaking before city council meetings on Civil War statues and monuments. Today's student is speaking before council on the meals tax. Today's student is speaking before council on the climate as it pertains to folks of different socio-economic statuses. That was not even the case. The Cavalier Daily is reporting on news items that are topical to not only just the UVA cycle, but Charlottesville and Amarillo County cycle. When I was at UVA with the Cavalier Daily, it was a five-day-a-week print product, and the only thing you saw in the Cavalier Daily pertained to the bubble. This is a reflection of today's student having a much more broad perspective or lens instead of what's just in front of their nose. Look at what's going on at Columbia right now. Look at what's going on in the Ivy League schools. The best schools in the world are being torn apart by Middle Eastern warfare. like donations and alumni connections and returning to school for alumni weekends.

I'm also curious to see how this impacts things like the nostalgia of having four years at UVA be the best of your life, whether it's still the same kind of zest and affinity for those four years on grounds. So you think students graduating last year, this year, in the coming years, will have less of a rosy outlook on their past at UVA? Students graduating this year are students that graduated during, that had their first year interrupted by covid yeah their first and second year interrupted by covid and then that segued into dei this geopolitical mess yeah curious your takes viewers and listeners

we'll give some props to moveuthru opening at Pro Renata. Second location for Dino and the boys at Pro Renata, Muthru. Also, Dino's located at Pro Renata as well. Dino is absolutely crushing it. Let's get to number one in the family, Deep Throat, with a comment. And then we'll offer some other perspective that we need to get to. He says, Deep Throat, if you get his photo on screen, ilovecebo.com forward slash viewer rankings.

I feel like we have a general problem of collapsing a continuum of behavior into a single category. Anything from physical assault to being a dweeb who asks a woman out is sexual harassment, Deep Throat says. Anything from asking people to clean a frat house, which would seem to me like just doing work in exchange for a benefit, to being forced to drink to the point of health risk is hazing. You get the sense, though, that the administration of most colleges relishes the opportunity to shut down frats. They don't like frats, but they can't manage to shut them down as a matter of policy, so they look for infractions.

You 100% get the feel that the brass at universities do not like the fraternity or sorority life. And whether that's because of the party nature, or whether that's because they don't have as much control over fraternities and sororities in Greek life, or whether that's associated with stigmas, associated with systematic old guard, affluent, white. Look, it's no secret that the fraternity, Greek life at UVA is homogenous in its demographic. UVA in general, you look at the student body and the student body is overwhelmingly white and wealthy. You take Greek life and it's even more overwhelmingly white and wealthy. You take Greek life and it's even more overwhelmingly white and

wealthy. Yeah, I'm sure you're definitely right about those first two in some degree, as well as no doubt the thought that when something goes wrong, it looks really bad for the school. Ginny, who watching the program, even if that's, even if that's just a, you know, as we, as I think we, most of us know these are isolated events. You know,

the, a lot of times the thing is that we hear about are the exceptions, not the rule. And I think Deep Throat is correct about the idea that we're lumping a lot of these behaviors together. And as you and I talked out, I think most of us don't think that forcing a first year to run down to the store to grab something or do some push-ups is a horrible, terrible thing that's going to ruin that person's life. Sprinting, jogging, forcing them to run, run the rugby road, run the Mad Bowl, do push-ups, do wall sits, clean up before parties, set up before parties, carry the band's equipment into a party,

clean up after parties, bring lunch on the brother's card, not the pledges credit card, but the brother's card. I got zero problem with that. Yeah, those are a far cry from endangering a student's life. I got zero problem with even some encouraging of some adult beverages. Forcing adult beverages, on the other hand, is, as a father, me personally, would not want my kid in that position. Exactly. Okay? Some of the stuff that I went through, which I've highlighted on this program, would not want my kid in that position.

A lot of people don't realize this. We as pledges during hell week, we, they, I think I've told the story on the, on previous shows, they flooded the basement with ice cold water. We stripped down buck ass naked. We got doused in ice cold water, literally ice baths. And then we were instructed to streak the sororities who were anticipating our streaking, a parade of naked 17, 18, 19 pledges, streaking through their sororities after being doused in ice-cold water.

They were sitting there outside the sororities or in the sororities waiting for us to run through and parade through their homes. Did you get some good catcalls? I mean, at that point, after being doused in ice-cold water, you're just sprinting all the way through. I mean, does that go into the point of being hazing? I would tend to think that that starts to get...

That's definitely in the gray area. Get into the... I think when you're... How about sleeping outside in March at a farm that you have no idea where you're at? You're blindfolded and taken to a farm somewhere in Alamaro County, and you guys are left there for 24 hours. I think ultimately that's the problem. How about swallowing goldfish? I think that's terrible.

You feel for the goldfish? No, I don't really feel for the goldfish. Is that your aunt reincarnated that went down my trachea? I just think it's... You think it's pointless? You think it's trivial? It's in very bad taste. Ginny Hu watching the program. She's an alum of the University of Virginia.

I do not attend reunions weekend anymore. And several of my sorority sisters hit town just to meet at bars and wineries, skipping the events on grounds altogether. I'm curious to see how the zest and the passion for the university when you graduate, how it compares to what it was some 20 years ago. And why I'm most curious about that is those that graduated or those that matriculated or those that attended UVA 20 years ago, those that I knew, we were all eager to return to Charlottesville in some capacity. I stayed. And the amount of kind envy or even jealousy of being able to stay in Charlottesville and create a professional path in Charlottesville with my friends that were in my year, they're like, I wanted to do this. I wanted to do this. And the ones I stay in touch with are still trying to return to Charlottesville.

So that four years of love that you had for your experience on grounds, does that still exist to the level that it was? And the reason we should ask that question is because it's that four years of love and passion for going through this experience in your life that is remaking the community. With people returning to grounds, returning to Charlottesville, choosing to live as adults with big incomes. I'm sure that's the case at a lot of

university towns. Is it though? Why would it not be? I think everybody has a bit of a... I'm really curious. I would love to hear that from students. Is it the same? I would love to hear that. That's a little sociology and anthropology right there. The future fraternities is not great. Not just at UVA, but anywhere. All right. A couple other items out of the notebook as you get lower thirds on screen Doug Straley named one of the top superintendents you got that storyline for us

yeah I know Doug Straley well I can set the stage Doug Straley is the superintendent of Louisa County Public Schools I've said on this program there's no county that I'm more bullish on in Central Virginia than Louisa County I've said on this program, there's no county that I'm more bullish on in Central Virginia than Louisa County. I've said on this program that Louisa County is what Crozet was 20 years ago.

Louisa's schools are taking off. Louisa has an old trail. It's called Spring Creek Golf Club. Louisa's about to get the Amazon investment of $11 billion in the county. Louisa has jobs that are not just tied to finance and technology and science and STEM or STEAM. I guess it's STEAM now. Louisa's got jobs that are middle class and blue collar. There goes Brian Haleska. What did we say we were going to do for Brian Haleska? I think we said we were going to do jumping jacks? Jumping jacks, yeah.

Should we say the first to find Brian Huluska or any local luminary walking by the other person has to do the jumping jacks or is it unfair to you because you don't have the vantage point that I do? It's completely unfair to me. Alright, fine. We need to figure out what the challenge is going to be

when a local luminary like Lloyd Snook or Brian Holuska or Joe Plantania or Ned Galloway walk by like we see our chief coaches what are we going to do? Thumb wrestle? Thumb wrestle

and are we hazing? Is this hazing? No Reed give us the Australian news Are we hazing? Is this hazing? No. Reed, give us the straling news. On this Monday, just two days ago, the Virginia Association of School Superintendents, VAS, awarded the Louisa County Public School Division Superintendent J. Douglas Doug Straley II. Wow, that's a mouthful.

The 2024 Virginia Superintendent of the Year. And this was during an award luncheon on Monday. I remember when Doug Straley was the athletic director at Louisa County High School. I've told this story previously. Doug Straley was the AD at Louisa before Louisa County High School's athletic department really took off,

and Straley made the athletic department. He took it to a different level. He hired Mark Fishers, the head football coach of Louisa. And then Doug Straley made attending a football game in mineral, the thing to do, like it was varsity lights or varsity blues or like, uh, you know, West Texas. He got, uh, Doug Straley got a live lion, a real lion named Bubba in a cage. It's the Louisa County Lions. Lions was their mascot.

And he got an actual lion to be in a cage. Wow. The lion was named Bubba. And Bubba would be pushed around the football field by the Louisa County cheerleaders. And Bubba would roar. There goes Haleska right there. Again.

Oh, man. Bubba, he didn't wave back to it. Bubba would roar. And Bubba would give you, elicit all the cheers and antics from the crowd. He had the football delivered to the 50-yard line for home football games, Doug Straley did, by skydivers. They were jumping out of an airplane, skydiving, delivering the football to the 50-yard line.

He had the football team run through banners. On the side of each banner, there was some kind of machine that shot fire in the sky. He had fireworks after the game. Two hours before football games, there was a tailgate with live music, sometimes actual bands. He had a color commentator

and a play-by-play. Dickie Purcell was the color commentator. I forget who the play-by-play. Dickie Purcell was the color commentator. I forget who the play-by-play person was. On every game for Louisa. He invited all the media to come out and cover the event. He turned it into literally a must-see. And the entire county and those around the county shut down to go to the football game.

They would put signs in their doors saying we're at the football game. And I watched Straley take Bubba the Lion and Coach Fisher's football team and Louisa County Athletics and turn them into one of the driving forces of changing a school system that did not have the best reputation for a long period of time. And I'll tell you another thing that really drove tailwinds and momentum behind Louisa County, the public school system, they were the first in central Virginia to open during COVID. Louisa said, we are going to go back to learning in person and in the classroom and no more remote work, get back to classroom. And that really, a lot of parents really responded well to that.

And you saw parents move from other counties into Louisa because of that. And another thing Louisa has going for itself is of the counties in central Virginia, it's one of the most affordable. Albemarle County and Charlottesvilleians, people price out of the Charlottesville city and Almaro County markets, we're talking middle and upper class families, middle and upper class families being priced out are moving to Louisa. It's got the proximity to Richmond. It's got the proximity to the interstate. It's got Lowe's. It's got Walmart. It's Crozet, what Crozet

was 15 or 20 years ago. Crozet is at its capacity. And what Crozet does not have that Louisa has is the jobs of different pay scales. And Doug Straley had this vision. Louisa's lucky to have Straley.

No doubt. There were other athletic directors when he was the athletic director at Louisa High School. Other athletic directors in the Jefferson District that were trying to emulate what he was trying to do. But couldn't get a lion. Holly Foster and Henrico, 20 years ago you could get away with streaking, but today you would have been caught on phones, on cameras, 100%. 100%, Holly. We streaked the lawn so many times,

I can't even remember how many times we streaked the lawn. We got into, this is a true story, there are steam tunnels under the ground at UVA. A lot of people do not know this. Did you know this? No. this. Did you know this? If you are willing to climb into the tunnel, into the, if you lift the manholes around grounds and climb down the ladders in the manholes, or you go into the drains that are off the roads, you can literally wiggle your body into the drains. And I'm not, I am not

encouraging anyone to do this. I'm not encouraging anyone to do this. I am not encouraging you to do this. I have to offer this disclaimer. But if you do do this, this was our experience. We went into the steam tunnels. My buddy Connecticut Dave, my buddy Tom, my buddy Shannon, a couple of other people, a handful of girls that were with us. We went into these steam tunnels under the ground of grounds, below grounds at UVA. And we found our way into Scott Stadium. It sounds like a Tom Hanks movie. At midnight, after midnight, on a random weeknight. We used the tunnel system. We walked around grounds. Someone finally lifted it up and we were in Scott Stadium. And this is 20 years ago. We streaked Scott Stadium.

That is a true story. Hand to God. True story. Now, the danger is extremely hot steam gets going through those tunnels. I'm not encouraging anyone to do that. Congratulations to Straley, the Louisa County superintendent.

This is another no BS comment here. I think Doug Straley, if he wanted to, and I'm not saying he wants to do this, because I think he's extremely well paid, especially for Louisa County especially for living in Louisa as a superintendent you're making some bank

but if Straley wanted to he could run for delegate or a state senator and win no doubt in my mind he'd win Louisa County Board of Supervisors I got a friend on the Board of Supervisors Fitzgerald Barnes, a former athletic director, Monticello

High School athletic director, Fitzgerald Barnes. Love Fitzgerald Barnes. Fitz is another one who created a fantastic experience when he was the AD at Monticello High School. I love Fitz. Fitz, and I mention this to him whenever I see him, one of the inspirations behind launching my business 16 years ago.

Straley has the kind of cachet where he could run for delegate or state senator and win. And speaking of the counties, something caught my eye from Sean Tubbs. Did you see Tubbs report about the top employers of Orange

County? Get those lower thirds on screen if you could, please, sir. Or one shot. Sean Tubbs talked the... He had a graphic it one of his newsletters the 50 largest employers in Orange County Orange County Virginia do you want me to put that on screen you have the graphic I've got it open I need to save it and get it up I would love if you put that on screen that's according to the Virginia Employment Commission. He did a screen grab for the Virginia Employment Commission. I'm not going to go through all 50. I'll give you the

top 10 largest employers in Orange County. Number one, Orange County School Board, the schools. Number two, the County of Orange. Number three, aerojet general corporation number four von holtz brinnick publishing number five walmart number six orange county nursing home seven food lion eight battlefield farms nine germana community college and 10 green applications. That's the top 10. I'm going to give you a couple of hand-picked ones that surprised me. Not surprised me, but I think are worth noting. These are the 50 largest employers in Orange County, Virginia.

It's on screen. Can they read what's on that graphic, though? It depends on what they're watching from. Well, is it on screen now? Yeah. I think most of them can probably read. They can read that? So if I click this and I go full screen,

I'll be able to read this? We're on a 10-second delay. Yeah. All right, I want to see. Yeah, they can read that. Yeah. Look at the screen. Here are the top 50.

This is according to the Virginia Employment Commission. So here are the ones that stood out to me. Chef Craig Hartman at the Barbecue Exchange is the 22nd largest employer in Orange County. Nice. Craig Hartman at the Barbecue Exchange is number 22. That stood out to me. That's the American dream, what Craig Hartman's building has built, continues to build. Others that stood out to me. Where is it? I want to get to the number.

Look at the screen. Okay. C number 45, H.B. Sedwick Jr. Building Supplies. The Sedwick family, one of the most influential families in Orange. They own a lot of real estate in downtown Orange. A lot of acreage, the Sedwick family. This is multi-generation of Orange County influence, affluence and control, number 45. These are big-time ballers here, 45. Where is the other one?

Sorry, I'm looking here. This really tests your vision. I should have written this down. Montpelier Foundation at 24. That surprised me a bit. Okay. A lot of fast food on this. Hunter Smith at 46, although that is not the former beer baron at 46.

Anyway, there's the list. What jumped out to you, viewers and listeners? Appreciate you putting that on screen, Judah. All right, what other headlines do we have on the... Sarah Lansman, welcome to the broadcast. I think that's the first time you've commented on the show. What else jumps out at you about... What's the other headline we have, or did we cover them all?

We've got one more at the bottom. Dave Matthews Band. Making you do jumping jacks is apparently hazing. Is that hazing? Yeah, but we agreed, I think, that there's a separation between hazing that's meant to tie people together and hazing that is potentially going to kill someone.

I don't think doing jumping jacks is potentially going to kill anyone. I do have an unfair advantage of outside the window. Go to the studio camera so people can see how we're sitting. You're not looking outside the window. So for someone to say the first highlight, who's walking by? They can't really even see me, but

I'm looking at Jerry, and he's looking out the window. Viewers and listeners, what should we do when a local luminary walks by? We'll crowdsource what we should do. I kind of want to do it as if it was like a game where we say a certain word or something like that.

It's like the license plate game where you're driving around on a road trip, and you're trying to find all the license plates, or punch buggy, punch buggy red, and you punch the person. I'm license plates or punch buggy punch buggy red and you punch the person i'm not going to punch you uh but something along those lines there's just i every show there's a local luminary walking here i also have an unfair advantage because of the recognition of them yeah you may recognize more of them than I do. Yeah. We've got to figure out how to make that equitable for you. The last storyline.

I don't know why it has to be adversarial. It could just be we see someone and we turn on the. I'm just an extremely competitive person. I know that. Okay, what is your suggestion? I'm uber competitive. I was jokingly saying. Oh? I'm uber competitive. I was jokingly saying that we could turn on the Benny Hill music and run around the desks while the music goes.

But can we play that music without Facebook taking us off? I don't know. We could make our own. You can make your own Benny Hill music somebody could I like the idea of running around the set besides I don't know when we see a local luminary

we run around the set and we have to say their name as we're running around the set like if Lloyd Snook runs by Lloyd Snook, Lloyd Snook, Lloyd Snook that would be the guy we see the most alright last topic here like if Lloyd Snook runs by, Lloyd Snook, Lloyd Snook, Lloyd Snook. That would be the guy we see the most. All right, last topic here. I was hesitant to cover this.

Rob Schilling reported this today. You want to set the stage of this? This is going to be a topic that is going to dominate a lot of parents' conversation here. I was hesitant to cover this. Do you want to set the stage for what Rob Schilling reported? Sure. And Schilling certainly has shock jock to him.

John Blair's got some comments. I've got to get to Blair's comments here. Love John Blair. When I hear comments, I adjust what we're doing on the show. Oh, John. Thank you. He says, Jerry, the single biggest failure of any superintendent is fielding an uncompetitive high school football team. It is by far the biggest community gathering point for any community.

Straley understood this. You've got to have a good football team in order to build a love of school and place. 1,000% agree with John Blair. He also says the brass at universities may not like Greek life, but I disagree with you in deep throat. They don't ban Greek organizations because of the potential loss of donation dollars. Right, and that's a point that I should have made. John, those are very good points right there. The alumni, the affinity for the school with folks that are coming through sororities and fraternities,

that love and zest and passion for the school, which in a lot of ways was created or established during fraternity and sorority life, I could speak firsthand on that, leads to donation dollars to said school. No doubt. Very great, good point by Blair. Very good point. Yeah, he's right. I doubt they're trying to get rid of all of the fraternities and sororities. But when an incident does happen, it definitely looks bad,

and it throws shade on the entire institution of fraternities and sororities. The same way that reporting on things that we wouldn't normally, that we wouldn't have as, what am I trying to say? We see a lot more in social media than we used to. So these things, when they happen, appear a lot bigger. 100%. Philip Dow watching in Scottsville, he says he loves Benny Hill. Yeah. And he also says at West Virginia, frats would make some students burn sofas out in the streets.

We definitely burn sofas. I've burned at least half a dozen sofas in the map. That's probably a low number. You would be shocked of how flammable a sofa is. I would not be shocked. It goes up in ridiculous flames. It's fabric and foam. It's... All right. so do you want to touch on the shilling news? How are we going to handle the shilling news? I'm going to go through and read

the screen captures of recent mandatory ACPS teacher training. I'm going to skip some of the editorialism. I think you should stick to the hard news here. Yeah. So we've got three different sections of this.

The first part is access in alignment I'm not really sure what that means but it says and this policy ensures that gender expansive students have access to facilities such as restrooms locker rooms or changing rooms that align with their gender identity consistently expressed at school. They cannot be compelled to use facilities that contradict their asserted gender identity. For students whose gender identity may be fluid, the school will collaborate to ensure restroom and locker room access

that respects and affirms their identity. The next part is labeled privacy. To accommodate students seeking increased privacy, the school will provide reasonable alternative arrangements such as single occupancy restrooms, private areas, or separate changing schedules. These accommodations will be offered in a non-stigmatizing manner, protecting the confidentiality of the student's gender expansive status. It's emphasized that

alternative arrangements must be available upon request, but should never be imposed on students. And the final section is labeled discomfort. Additionally, the discomfort some students may feel about sharing facilities with gender expansive peers is not a valid reason to deny access to those peers. Any student uncomfortable with sharing sex segregated facilities can request a designated, safe, non-stigmatizing alternative arrangement. Those are the hard facts. So, long story short, long story short, it sounds like they may be building a lot of new restrooms, locker rooms, and changing rooms.

Have you guys ever been to Selvage Brewery on Ivy Road? I have not. Our family, my wife and I like Selvage Brewery. Ivy Road, Selvage Brewery. Ivy Road, Selvage Brewery. This brewery has four or five bathroom stalls that are gender neutral. And a sink, large sink, almost trough-like in length

where you wash your hands. And it works really well. Southwest Brewery is fantastic. One bathroom with a bunch of stalls? It's like a bathroom closet. It's like four or five closets where you can close the door. A bathroom that you can close the door. Actual door, not a stall where you can see underneath.

But these are all inside a bathroom? No, it's open. Well, where's the sink? It's an open area. It's part of the brewery to the side. You should check it out. It's a fantastic design. It's got four or five bathroom closets, essentially, where you can go in and you can close the door and you're basically in a closet where there's a toilet paper that you can use use so it's just like a fully enclosed stall it's

a fully enclosed stall you walk out of this fully enclosed stall it's better description is a bathroom closet and you walk out of this bathroom closet and then you go to this trough, this very nice elevated, trough doesn't do service, it's elevated, it's well designed. It's nice. And then you go and you wash your hands. And you could be washing your hands next to a man, a woman, anyone. It's executed extremely well. Nice. extremely well. I'm starting to change my perspective

is changing on these gender neutral bathroom closets. After seeing them in action, not just there but elsewhere, I see that they can work. I see they can work.

The concept sounds great to me. I have no problem with that. I'm a little more leery about the whole, you know, somebody who identifies as something else can go into a man-specific or a woman-specific bathroom. Well, how about the locker room? I mean, I don't know. How about the locker room? I don't know. How about the shower?

That's definitely a little bit weird. I don't know what the showers look like in schools. It's been a long time. I don't remember actually. The gender neutral bathrooms, I'm a champion of. That's probably the future of bathrooms. That's the future of bathrooms. I'm curious to see how Albemarle County

public schools are going to handle this when it comes to locker room and changing clothes and getting naked and also showers. And I will reserve commentary and judgment until a solution is presented before me. That's what I want to see how it's handled. How will this be managed with showers and changing in a locker room? Yeah, I agree. I think we're going to have a lot of taxpayer dollars allocated to the redevelopment and redesign of gender-neutral bathrooms,

to gender-neutral bathrooms. No doubt. I mean, all of this. And that's going to be expensive. I'm curious to see how they handle the alternative. All right. That's the Tuesday edition, Wednesday edition, excuse me, Wednesday edition of the I Love Seville show. We apologize for starting late.

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