The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - UVA Board Of Visitors Closed Session Tomorrow; 1st Meeting Since Protest Pepper Spraying

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

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Good Wednesday afternoon, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville Show. We thoroughly enjoy connecting with you through the I Love Seville Network on a Wednesday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville, where our Market Street camera, and I think Judah could probably flick over to it, is in full effect right now. Local luminaries, walk by the storefront and studio window, and say hello to our viewer and listening audience. A lot to cover on today's program. A board of visitors meeting due to Wicower, as you weave us back into the shot,

that could be pretty significant. This is the first board of visitors meeting since the pro-Palestine pepper-spraying protest fiasco. Let's see if we can turn those into all Ps. Pro-Palestine, protest, pepper spraying. What's a synonym for fiasco that starts with a P? Oh, man. Viewers and listeners, let us know your thoughts.

I'm going to do a little thesaurus.com on that. Brujaha starts with a B. Fiasco, let's see. Screw up, failure, embarrassment, debacle. All those are applicable, but unfortunately do not start with a P. Anywho, Jim Ryan, his presidency, arguably the number one job in education in the Commonwealth of Virginia. I'll straight up say it. The number one job in the Commonwealth of Education, in the Commonwealth of Virginia when it comes to education.

Who's got a job tied to education in the Commonwealth of Virginia that is better, more lucrative, more significant, more accolade, more clout than Jim Ryan's at UVA. I can't think of anyone. Personnel, closed session. That's the topic of a closed session meeting tomorrow afternoon. Personnel. You would imagine, since this is the first meeting, since the pro-Palestine protests, pepper spraying, debacle? You got one for me, Judah? I do not. Pickle? I don't think pickle is significant enough to what we saw.

Would you agree? So far, you have the best suggestion. You got 27 people arrested. All those 27 arrests, have they all been dropped? I believe so. Although one of them, for whatever reason, despite not having as serious a charge as the woman that was charged with assaulting a police officer, was being kept off grounds until they relented. Plight?

Plight, yeah. Plight? This plight, is it significant enough? Pro-Palestine protest pepper-spraying plight? How would you characterize the Board of Visitors as you put lower thirds on screen? It's a closed session with personnel

as the agenda item. You have a Board of Visitors that is already disenchanted with Mr. Jim Ryan, President Jim Ryan. We do know that... But are they all? I mean... Not all of them. Would it be more significant if they waited for this closed-door meeting until after Youngkin had made his appointments for the next four years worth of

Board of Vis visitor appointees. Due to Wickeye, you're on point today. Governor Glenn Youngkin's appointees will be done, what, later this month? Yeah, sometime this month. Sometime this month. His appointees will further change the dynamic and mood and mentality and landscape of the BOV. Yeah. One has to assume that Razorblade Burt Ellis will be having some possibly amenable companions

on the board. I think he's already got some amenable companions. I'm sure he has a few, but he's going to gain more. The governor selected Paul Harris, Paul Manning, John, is it now NAU, and Rachel Sheridan to the BOV in June of 2023. Appointments for this year are expected sometime this month, a four-year term, each member, confirmed by the General Assembly, and can be reappointed for an additional four years. This board goes a long way in determining the University of Virginia. A couple of questions I have here. The board has already shown in years past that they're willing to terminate presidents midterm. They did that to Teresa Sullivan. Jim Ryan, I believe,

if memory serves correct, and maybe you can find this due to Wickhour, under contract through 2028. Yep, that's confirmed by Sean Tubbs. Sean Tubbs, excellent reporting per usual with your Charlottesville Community Engagement Substack. Town Crier Productions, Info Seville, Sevillepedia, all the brands that represent Sean Tubbs.

Ryan is under contract with UVA through July of 2028. As he's highlighted, Teresa Sullivan was canned midterm in the summer of 2012 when she could not see eye to eye with the board. A coup was led by Helen Dragas of Virginia Beach, then the chairwoman of the board, who did not see eye to eye with Teresa Sullivan. Part of that friction was tied to Teresa Sullivan's willingness to digitize curriculum at UVA through Coursera. Sullivan wanted education done in classrooms by teachers with students in front of chalkboards or whiteboards with students sitting in desks or lecture halls where Dragas is like, dude, the future is the internet and cameras

and teaching online. And Coursera is where we should go. I mean, Dragas looked like Nostradamus in a lot of ways. I understand why Teresa Sullivan wanted to keep it the traditional path. Frankly speaking, what's probably best for Charlottesville long-term in its economy is the traditional path. If the university chooses to further go down the digitized curriculum route, what's the significance of UVA in Charlottesville?

Is it as significant? Is it as deep? Is it as strongly tied? Yeah. How is it different from like the Arizona ads you see on TV everywhere for- University of Phoenix. Yeah.

Perfect example. And how's it different than Zoom and COVID, where now you have professionals working for D.C., Manhattan, Baltimore law firms through an ISP in their basement wearing their tighty-whities, their BVDs, and their bathrobes while charging $7.95 an hour? Yeah. perfect example so obviously the lead news item of the day is what's going to happen in this closed session board of visitors meeting tomorrow and how does it impact Jim Ryan and if we're unpacking this question even further

we have to ask ourselves how does it impact the city of Charlottesville and Almaro County? President Ryan has made a commitment a commitment, a commitment to being a better brother or sister to Alamaro County and the city of Charlottesville, a better family member, a more communicative, a more transparent, a more charitable,

a more philanthropic, a more giving, a more considerate neighbor. And do you think he has? I'd say he has, more so than Castine and Teresa Sullivan. Castine and Teresa Sullivan were concerned about the UVA bubble. They weren't nearly as concerned about Albemarle County, the jurisdiction, and the city of Charlottesville, the jurisdiction. I think Ryan realizes, and he's realized this maybe because he can play the game that we call politics,

he's realized this maybe because authentically and genuinely, he has a lot of, I think Jim Ryan has a lot of great tendencies. I think his university is unfortunately under his tenure tenure over the last 24, 36 months, you know, has unwrapped, his influence has diminished. His brand equity has diminished. His control has diminished. And his leadership has been questioned. Yeah. We talk about the pro-Palestine pepper spray protest plight. What's a better brand for that? We're in the branding business. Pickle. The pro-Palestine.

Pro-Palestine pickle. The pro-Palestine. Well, we've got to get pepper spray in there. Pepper spray and protest. Pro-Palestine pepper spraying protest pickle. That's a mouthful. That with the

murders of the three UVA football players and the shootings of two others. And now the nine million settlement. The nine million payout, the failure to release the audit report. I mean, the cherry

on top or some additional whipped cream on the Sunday could be the Zianna Bryant protest on Water Street. With how a University of Virginia female student, her life was in a lot of ways significantly

impacted by how that was handled. Definitely. So if you're tuning into the program, tomorrow afternoon, Board of Visitors in closed session with the subject personnel in a Board of Visitors that is now very discombobulated or very, how would you characterize their mood or mentality with the president? Lukewarm? I don't know. Lacking confidence? Perhaps. uncertain wary I don't know their individual but you're an intelligent guy you read tea leaves and the writing on the wall

I would say it's not rock solid I mean if they're smart maybe they're seeing what I'm seeing and that President Ryan is maybe a little sick and tired of Well, that's a follow-up question. Is he ready to leave?

Like I said, he's stated himself, if you're not happy, that seems to me the kind of statement that you make when you're looking for an easy out. Ladies and gentlemen,

here's the easy out. I can't imagine he's hurting financially. No. Of course not. I mean, unless he's been like out hitting the... Where are you going to go with this one? Hitting the what?

I was going to say hitting the poker tables. Oh, the poker tables. There's a lot of ways you could have gone with that. I suppose there are. Poker tables, no. And I don't imagine that's the case with the president. He's not paying a rent

or mortgage. He does have, and I won't say where, he does have another house in Almaro County that he owns. Okay. But to your point, he is living rent-free in the president's mansion. And making, in total compensation,

well over a million dollars. And I have no problem at all with people making that kind of money. He's the president of a university. The top university in the commonwealth. It's not as egregious as some of the CEOs. Oh, you want to go down that path?

You want to go down the path of obscene CEO compensation and the fact that Hello Kitty is under the microscope for market manipulation as it applies to GameStop yet again? Oh, that is hilarious. You want to go down the path that some CEOs...

You want to talk about that? Some CEOs and companies... Somebody's terrified, right? Some CEOs and companies that are laying people off are being compensated more than the GDPs of some small countries? They're probably getting paid more than almost all of their employees put together.

While the meme, maybe the face of memes, Hello Kitty, the man from the Red Upwards. Roaring Kitty. Oh, Roaring Kitty. Sorry. Hello Kitty is the clear backpacks that will be removed from Richmond Public Schools.

You know, the fact that they're investigating him just shows how terrified they are. I think the fact, I would agree with some of that. I mean, all he did was buy call contracts. How can you possibly twist that to make it look like he did something wrong? Roaring Kitty. Honest question. Roaring Kitty's history, and this guy's, if you don't know,

he's the guy from the Wall Street Bets Reddit boards. There's multiple documentaries and a fantastic movie that's either on HBO or Netflix about him. I would say some of the tactics he has utilized would be characterized as market manipulation. Tactics? Such as? How many people? Not the ones most current, but from past? You watch people essentially... They're not trading. Tell people what to buy and sell. Jim Cramer's not trading. You don't have to be trading to manipulate the market. Cramer's offering commentary on the news, on financial news.

Roaring Kitty is utilizing a massive platform to move the needle when it comes to certain stocks and equities, ones that he's investing in directly prior to the commentary he's providing on social media. But there are a lot of people that provide commentary. I get that. It's a fine line. It's a very fine line. I mean, we know that Kim Kardashian... I mean, you know Wall Street Bets before this all blew up was essentially a bunch of people showing their positions, right? I do know that. I do know that.

And that's essentially all he's done. Showing the positions is one thing. How Roaring Kitty is doing it is completely different than just showcasing some buy and sell slips. He's sitting in front a camera producing basically a show like this and encouraging a massive following to buy or sell at a time that he had already done that or did the opposite. I disagree. It's a very fine line. This is a topic

for a different show. Sure. It's a topic for a different show. Maybe we have a new show theme here. Topic for a different show, not the I for a different show maybe we have a new show theme here topic for a different show not the I Love Seville show and certainly not when UVA Board of Visitors closed session is on screen as a lower third I will give you this as a free market guy and as a guy who has a social media following local

not macro or global like Roaring Kitties I am all for the free exchange of ideas and allowing a marketplace or a social media following to decipher what I'm saying or what Roaring Kitty is saying as something to act on, something to not act on, something that is purely entertainment or an education or something that can be ignored altogether. Okay? I get that. But when it's people's money and when it's taken crappy companies and making them, was it shoot to the moon? What's the phrase? That sounds good. Okay. Shoot. Is that what

he uses the phrase? I don't know if he, I don't know. He's forcing them. His last videos were prior to the congressional hearing. It had been a long time. It had been a very long time. Since the pandemic, right? Yeah. Think about that. Since the pandemic. But to your point, I agree with you.

What's happening with his under the microscope is because of fear. They're like, oh my God, this guy's back again. It's fear. It's not just that he's back, that they're afraid. You have to imagine that there are some people who have made some truly, truly horrendously stupid decisions. And this may be biting them, you know, where it hurts. Kevin Yancey, good afternoon to you as well. James Watson, welcome to the program.

We're talking, Randy O'Neill, thank you for watching the show. We're talking about the Board of Visitors meeting closed session tomorrow where you've got to imagine that Jim Ryan's job status and his future at the University of Virginia is going to be front and center. Philip Dow in Scottsville is saying it's time for Jim Ryan to go. Does he give any reasons? Great question, Philip Dow. That's a great question for you. Any reasons why you think he should go? The natural cause and effect question of this Board of Visitors meeting would be, what does that do to the city of Charlottesville and Almaro

County? Because currently, Charlottesville and Alamaro County? Because currently Charlottesville and Alamaro County have probably the best relationship I've seen with the University of Virginia in a very long time. There's a man walking by in a Yale shirt right now. That's a nod to Jim Ryan's alma mater. Did you catch the man walking in the Yale shirt? I don't know if anybody

would have seen the Yale shirt. I didn't see it. The irony there. Ginny Hu watching the program, and she says, I'm not that far from you, and I would not call today gorgeous. Why is today not gorgeous? Because the sun is behind a cloud? It's overcast. I mean, it's not horribly humid for June in Charlottesville. It was when I was walking here this morning.

Okay, I stand corrected. All right. You've been outside more recently than I have. I mean, I'm a guy that hates the heat. charlottesville it was when i was walking here this morning okay i stand corrected all right i you've been outside more recently than i have i mean i'm a guy that hates the heat i didn't find it terrible anyway this is what's the next topic on the docket is it the richmond public schools and the uh clear backpacks yep ladies and gentlemen can you set the table with the who what when where why do you have that story in front of you? I've got it pretty close. Let's see.

This is a crazy story here. And first, let me characterize this. Our son, my wife's watching here, our son, his backpack right now is a collection of superheroes on it. He's got like, he couldn't have, what are the superhero regimes it's marvel and marvel and dc okay this is way up your alley this is not on my alley who are the marvel superheroes uh i mean without getting the traditional one the most popular ones the avengers are i mean keep going the avengers are Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America. I mean, they're... That's the ones he has on his backpack.

They're kind of the big ones. Who else are in this category, on this team? Then you've got Spider-Man. He's not really affiliated with anyone. Okay. He's got the Avengers on his backpack. Is that Marvel? Yeah.

Okay, who are the DC superheroes? The big ones are Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman. He's got the Avengers on his backpack. His buddies have Hello Kitty on their backpacks, Pokemons

on their backpacks, Barbies on their backpacks. I'm sure some of them have superheroes. A lot of Spidermans on their backpacks, Pokemons on their backpacks, Barbies on their backpacks. I'm sure some of them have superheroes. A lot of Spidermans on their backpacks, a lot of Supermans on their backpacks, a lot of UVA backpacks. UVA? Yeah, the V-sabers on their backpacks that they use to... Kids get UVA. Like, as a kid, I couldn't imagine asking for a universe, like some university. Have you ever been to a college sporting event in your life? Probably.

Yeah, I have. Which one? I've been to a UVA baseball game. Okay, I stand corrected. Would you characterize yourself as a sports fan? no that's why, there's some kids that are sports fans and this is the team that they're rooting for

I for the longest time had a CSUN ball cap because I love the logo but I couldn't see doing that when I was 5 or six years old i for the longest time had a jansport backpack did you have any jansport backpacks probably or an ll bean backpack with your initials on it parents how many of your kids have an ll bean backpack with your initials monogrammed on it i lived in maine i don't even think I had an L.L. Bean backpack. Get ready. That stuff's expensive. Get ready, parents. Your Barbie,

Hello Kitty, and Jansport L.L. Bean Avengers backpacks. You're about to throw them in the trash if your kids go to Richmond. There goes Lloyd Snook with a fresh haircut carrying a campaign sign. Did we get him on? No, we didn't get him. Can we get him on

the hallway camera over here or is that asking too much? He's got a fresh cut, Lloyd Snook. I mean, if you want to... No, it's alright. It's alright. There he goes. Big fan of that, man. Read the who, what, when, where, why for the Richmond Public

Schools. Listen to this, parents. The Richmond School Board has adopted a clear backpack policy for elementary school students at a meeting on Monday night. They debated adding weapon detectors to the schools but decided more research should be done to prove they were worth it because of a four million dollar price tag um the richmond public school administration believes it can provide clear backpacks to every rps elementary school student for $60,000. That way, since they're going to force kids to have them,

they're not going to... It has to be that way. They're not going to rely... They're not going to force everyone to buy their own backpack. The odd thing is that there was... I found in another article, there's a school security expert who's basically saying. And you got the BOV, you got the lower thirds change, right?

RVA Public Schools forced clear backpacks. Okay, fantastic. I apologize for interrupting you. Stephanie, I'll get to your comment. Bill McChesney, I'll get to your comment. Stephanie, our son is going to be similar way. Keep going, J-Dubs. so the school security expert is essentially saying that uh while the idea of clear backpacks is commendable it ultimately creates a false sense of security

and he's explained that he's done a demonstration where he's carried in a weapon that was a replica and he could just walk right past everyone and say oh that's a t-shirt. Everybody's got their gym clothes and their backpack. And so he's basically saying that just because you have a clear backpack doesn't mean that every single object in it is going to be clearly identifiable. You know what the biggest weapon I have is? Do I want to know the answer to this?

You're such a sicko. You sicko. I was going to say my dirty gym clothes. Well, that's pretty nasty. My dirty gym clothes and my backpack. That would clear a hallway in a second. Forget a gun or some kind of weapon. You get Jerry's dirty gym clothes in his backpack,

and it will clear a classroom or in a hallway as if someone was screaming active shooter. I was going to say, is that considered a chemical weapon? Put the RVA lower third on so people know what we're talking about. This is bananas. Forcing the kids to have clear backpacks in their public schools? And the follow-up question to this is, is this what the future is for Charlottesville City and Albemarle County public schools? And the follow-up question to this is, is this what the future is for Charlottesville City and Albemarle County public schools? Well, so he goes on to say that

metal detectors are the best way to prevent shootings in schools. Obviously! Have I not been saying that? Obviously, they're the best. All right, go ahead. And he says the new technology uses artificial intelligence and it's able to recognize guns through packaging, which includes wooden or plastic containers. Essentially, he's saying that your clear backpacks aren't going to do anything unless you open them up and search them, which you could do just as easily with a non-clear backpack. This is the most ridiculous

policy I have read since the last most ridiculous policy I read from the city of Charlottesville, which was probably yesterday. Richmond public schools are going to force their students to have clear backpacks. No more LLB monogram backpacks. No more Captain America, Avengers, Spider-Man, Superman, UVA, Virginia Tech, Pokemon, Hello Kitty, or Barbie backpacks.

But clear backpacks. They're going to pay for them. Thank God they're trying to make it equitable in some kind of capacity with taxpayer dollars. And they're going to hope that this is going to pay for them. Thank God they're trying to make it equitable in some kind of capacity with taxpayer dollars. And they're going to hope that this is going to eliminate crime in schools. You have an expert saying what we all know, the easiest way to keep guns off schools, put a metal detector on the entrance and the exit that kids have to go through. So obvious.

Another way to eliminate crime in schools, have a school resource officer in the hallway. Charlottesville City says, no way, Jose. We're not going to do that. We'll wait until 2025 to reconsider it again, despite the superintendent of the schools, Dr. Gurley, trying to push them forward. Instead of addressing the problem, you know the people who have problems going through metal detectors? The people that are carrying weapons on their person. You know the people who do not have problems going through metal detectors? The people that don't have weapons on their person. You know the people who have problems with school resource officers? The people that are doing problematic behavior in schools. And aren't worried about teachers stopping them.

Exactly. So instead of common sense, let's just force all students to have clear, crappy backpacks. Instead of representing their favorite superhero, their family monogram, their favorite sports team, or their, what was yours? What was your backpack of? A logo you liked? Oh, no, no. That was a baseball cap.

A Jansport backpack? How about just a Jansport? Stephanie Wells Rhodes says. I don't think I ever had any. Go ahead. She says all her kids, all their kids have been decked out in UVA gear since they were kids. Wow. Same. Bill McChesney watching the program. Getting some photos on screen of our favorite viewers and listeners. Glenn Youngkin is pulling triggers at UVA.

He may as well have been using the pepper spray. Say that again? He may as well have been using the pepper spray. Youngkin? Yeah. We said the day after the pro-Palestine pepper spraying protest pickle that Glenn Youngkin was the puppeteer behind the screen and he had Chief Tim Longo, Jim Ryan, the Virginia police, state police, on strings,

and he was dangling them around, orchestrating this pro-Palestine protest pepper-spraying pickle. It's really the only thing that makes sense. Only thing that makes sense. I said it from day one. On this talk show, we have the tape and the sound to prove it. The Monday after the protest, I said this, you gave me grief, said, no way, Jose. That's not what happened. And slowly you've turned and changed your mind. Okay. From day one. We are in a

world where we choose to not address problems head on. We choose to address problems with all these auxiliary solutions. You don't want guns in schools. Have a metal detector and a police officer. Not make backpacks clear. You're still going to have to look in them. What happens if there's a gun in a clear backpack and it's in between the books and someone's back or body?

You take a bunch of textbooks and you put it on the front of the clear backpack. And you put whatever you're trying to hide on the other side of the books and you have it protected with your back. Who's going to see what's in there? No one. Right? You don't think students are going to figure that out? Oh, they can see what's on the outside of the clear backpack. right? you don't think students are going to figure that out? oh, they can see what's on the outside of the clear backpack

but if I hide it between my jacket you put my jacket in a backpack and you wrap it around the gun and you put it in a clear backpack how is anyone going to see what's in the clear backpack if it's wrapped around a gun? it's just my gym clothes it's just Jerry's boxer shorts.

I'm not touching those. Exactly. What teacher is going to open up that backpack even though it's clear and say, good night, these are Jerry's sweaty boxer briefs. If they're not knocked out by the odor. Which they would be. I assure you.

Just ask my wife. You were the one that went down the sicko when I said, you know what, the biggest weapon that I carry? Sicko. I mean, come on. You left yourself wide open. I know. I set you on that one. Janice Boyce Trevelyan says her son is 40 years old and still has his L.L. Bean backpack. The L.L. Bean backpack is timeless. Especially since, I don't know if this still works this way, but previously you could bring pretty much anything back to L.L. Bean backpack is timeless. Especially since, I don't know if this still works this way,

but previously you could bring pretty much anything back to L.L. Bean. I think that's no longer the case. It used to be most known for the L.L. Bean boots. Like if the boots got banged up, you could just send them back to L.L. Bean and you'd get a new pair of boots mailed to you. But people were exploiting that. Of course they were. How do you exploit it?

What do you mean how you exploit it? It's a feature. You buy a pair of boots, you wear them for two years, you slice them or cut them or you mess them up and send them back and say, give me a new pair of boots. No different than the woman going to McDonald's and saying, my coffee's too hot. No, that's totally different. Dude, just because the coffee was scalding hot. I don't know how you make the connection between those two when it was... I just wanted to get you triggered over there. When it was their actual... I don't care about the McDonald's thing.

No, I don't care about McDonald's thing, but L.L. Bean, that was their actual policy. How do you take advantage... It was part of their marketing campaign because people exploited it. There's always someone... How do you take advantage? It was part of their marketing campaign because people exploited it. How do you exploit it? I knew people that owned the same pair of shoes for like 15 years because they would just keep replacing them. It's totally fine. It's a great marketing plan and it's a great policy

when shoes are worn for 15 years before they're sent back. It's a fatal flaw when shoes are worn for 12 months or 18 months and sent back. There's a huge difference, and that's what was happening. When it's all said and done, people, humans, men and women, some of us are always going to be looking for the angle and the hustle. That's true. Some of us will always look for it. The clear backpack, the hustle, Janice Boyce Trevelyan, just put it in your lunchbox inside the clear backpack, the gun. Wrap it in Jerry's boxer briefs, the gun, in the clear backpack and challenge anyone to look inside when it smells like butt. Cut a gun shape in your book. like you see in the James Bond movie

that was funny you're on point today, I like this Judah kind of take the book cut a gun shape in the US history textbook and put your 9 mil in there and close it

hey I got a clear backpack, it's my textbook I'm studying for Mr. Joyce's AP history exam. Is anyone going to pull all your books out of your backpack? No. There's no way. Nobody will. And that's why this is a dumb... Why is the book slightly heavier than it should be?

Exactly. And that's why this is a dumb policy. That's why it's a dumb policy. Instead of solving the problem with a metal detector and an SRO, they're doing this. And you know what? Who wants to bet? You want to bet 20 bucks that Charlottesville City is going to consider something like this as well? Would you take that bet? No, I wouldn't take that bet. Of course you wouldn't take that bet because you're a smart man. You want to bet a bottle of brown juice over there that this is

something that Charlottesville is going to consider? Only if I'm on the side of it that says they are going to consider it. No. I don't want to be on the side of it that they're not going to consider it. Is LinkedIn connected over there? What was the last time I checked?

What's that? What was the last time I checked? What's that? What was the last time I checked? Okay. I'm not seeing. We really want a better word than plight. What? Or pickle. Pickle just is such a disservice to what actually happened.

The fact that nobody's put a better word in the comments tells me that there isn't one. I mean, it's tough. The P word's tough. All right. What's the next topic? Set the stage, my friend. Oh, let's see. Albemarle County tax bills. Oh, yeah. This is bananas. Want to set the stage? They're wasting paper. I mean, not wasting paper. They're resending tax bills because there was an error.

They put the entire year amount on the stub, not above in the actual body where it tells you, you know, this is the June tells you this is the June amount this is the December amount but on the stub itself apparently the mail that went out to people had the entire year's amount totaled

which is a significant error especially if somebody just blindly fills out a check for what's on the stub and sends it in. And as you made the point, ultimately it's not like you're... No, but you're giving them an interest-free loan. Yeah. You're basically saying, here's my tax, all my taxes for my real estate in June for the rest of the year,

as opposed to having that money, hundreds or thousands of dollars, some folks tens of thousands of dollars, some folks hundreds of thousands of dollars, and paying that money in December and investing it from June to December and trying to get a return. You're giving them an interest-free loan. And it's just, you know, mistakes happen. Mistakes with money are in a lot of ways the worst kind of mistakes. My dad's a CPA. He taught us growing up, making mistakes with money are some of the worst kind of mistakes you can make. When I was in the newspaper business, working at the Daily Progress, the mistake on the correction was a fireable offense. You can make a mistake with your newspaper article and what you wrote, and then you had to submit a correction.

If the correction you submitted on your first mistake was also wrong, I've seen many people get fired for that. So those are the two types of mistakes, from my professional experience, you try to avoid. The mistakes with money, and the mistake fixing a mistake. Well, let's hope the... Good God, if the second bill came out, that would be the worst mistake.

A mistake with money, and a mistake on a correction? If the second bill that came out also had a mistake? Yeah if it happens but uh still crazy nonetheless and uh i'm a lot of people were i think uh at the very least scratching their heads when they got the bills and they're like what is this why is it so high why are they combining the the two some people, I think, realize that this has to be a mistake. Philip Dow answers your question, Jude,

about Jim Ryan and why he should go. He said the University of Virginia is entirely too liberal and the professors are teaching far left than any other school as reasons why Jim Ryan should go. That's from Philip Dow of Scottsville. I'm not saying I disagree. We could push back on that. There's Brian Haleska. Did you get him on the Market Street game? No. But how much control does Professor Ryan have on the curriculum and what's taught in classrooms?

Especially with tenured professors. And the professors themselves. Exactly. Show me any college in the U.S. that has any public college that has even

almost an even number of politically right-leaning professors as politically left-leaning, I don't think that college exists. I think that's fair pushback. And I think what we could clearly judge President Ryan on is the handling of the pro-Palestine pepper spraying protest pickle. We can clearly hold President Ryan accountable on the UVA football shooting that led to three

football players murdered and two others injured, especially with the fact that the alleged murderer was reported to having the gun well in advance of using it. We can hold President Ryan accountable for not releasing the report from that mass murder. We can hold President Ryan accountable when it comes to or when it came to the Zianna Bryant Water Street protest where Charlottesville activist Zianna Bryant tried to ruin someone's life. And not exonerating the woman after it was clearly shown

that... And not holding Zianna Bryant accountable for making something up. Those are reasons to hold President Ryan accountable. But tenured teachers trying to control what they teach students is not something that I would chalk up in the negative column for President Ryan. Yeah. Ginny Hu has a couple of comments. Her photo on screen. The clear backpack bag policies only work with the people who are going to follow the rules anyway. 100%.

100%. And she says this, how do you feel about the clear bag policy at sporting events? We bring the clear bags into Scott Stadium, but guess what? I have four or five airplane bottles of Maker's Mark on my belt, in between my shorts and my body and my belly. I got four airplane bottles tucked right there. Get in any time. I don't put the four Maker's Mark airplane bottles

in my wife's clear bag that they look at. I put them where they would have to touch essentially my junk. And they don't. And I get the airplane bottles in and everybody else in Scott Stadium does as well. Take a look at Scott Stadium after a football game. Walk through the bleachers. How many airplane bottles of bourbon do you see? Hundreds if not thousands. She also says this she's watching the program I question that it was an error with Alamaro County there is a strong possibility

they printed them banking on the fact that some would not read closely and pay the total cost up front that's a bit I respect the comment I thought that as well briefly but that is a bit conspiratory. Conspiratorial.

I genuinely think in this scenario it was a mistake. I don't think it was a nefarious mistake. I can't see the entire county as a political entity, as a deciding to... I could maybe see some individual, but for some individual to care enough about the money the county brings in to

perpetrate something like that? It's not going to their bottom line. I find it a little hard to swallow. I think it was human error. Yeah, or computing error. Maybe computing error, which would then still be human error. Yeah, somebody didn't catch it. Exactly.

Or somebody missed, I don't know how the numbers get put into the individual pieces of mail that get printed, but somewhere somebody messed up the spreadsheet. Spreadsheet? Really? I mean... What is this, office space? How do you get A and B and you're supposed to put A down on the stub but instead you get C? Give me the TPS reports. Have you seen office space? Of course.

The TPS reports. Can I get those TPS reports on my desk? Yeah, you know... I'm going to need to see those TPS reports. Very nicely done today, Judah. Oh, man. Last headline, my friend.

What do we have? One, two headlines? Lombard. What's the headline? Let's see. Oh, yeah. Rally or not. Marjorie Taylor Greene and McGuire. This is a mess.

This is a mess. First, if you're the John McGuire. This is a mess. This is a mess. First, if you're the John McGuire, John McGuire is running for Congress. He's a father. He's a Navy SEAL. He's a business owner. He's a candidate for the 5th

District where he's challenging Bob Goode. Yeah. Frankly speaking, I'm not a huge fan of Bob Good. I wasn't either. And then I found out that Trump wasn't endorsing him. Trump is not endorsing him. Or maybe I need to take another look at Bob Good. And then Bob Good comes out to endorse Trump and then has, what do you, and then he, all of his signs, I've seen signs all over the place that say Good and Trump.

And he's getting blowback from that. The Trump campaign is basically saying. For Bob Good to win, Bob Good needs Trump's supporters to vote for him. Trump is not a huge fan of Bob Good. Trump did not voice or give his endorsement to Good. Right. Good knows. This is a political science.

Trump actually did give his endorsement to McGuire. Good knows that he needs Trump's voters and supporters to vote for him to win. Yeah. That's why he's co-branding with Trump. Oh, I know. And coming out in support of Trump, despite the fact that Trump doesn't return the favor. The craziest situation in all this

is Trump, in this scenario, has hedged yet again. He says no to good, but still gets props from good, who he said no to in the campaign material, prior to Trump's election. It's a nut house. It's a nut house. And then this whole...

Oh, yeah. Keep it going. This rally with... Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie Taylor Greene. How do you characterize her? She's problematic for anyone with a brain. Explain why. She's... Bananas?

Yeah, she's on Twitter just saying, you know, bat you know what crazy stuff. And it's just nuts. And then they were going to do a rally here in... At Charlottesville. I think they were going to do a rally here in... At Charlottesville. Here. I think they were going to show up at the City Hall. Initially, it was going to be in City. Was it going to be right there in Court Square?

I don't know. Or was it going to be at City Hall? They didn't tell anyone in Charlottesville. Yeah. They were calling it a rally. People found out on Monday. They're like, wait a minute. They're coming where?

Yeah. And then when they were called to question about it. They were doxxed. No. And then when somebody called to say, hey, what's going on? They found out, oh, we changed our mind. We're going to Albemarle County. And then they also said we're not going to call it a rally because you can't have official rallies at voting stations.

Well, you can't even. Even though their literature had the word rally on it. Whether or not you call it a rally, they can't do anything within like a... I think you can't be able to hear like a... Megaphone? A megaphone within...

If you're within 40 feet of the voting place and you can hear the megaphone, then they're too close. My favorite part of the story is the city of Charlottesville, its police department, it reached out to the McGuire campaign and said, hey, the scuttlebutt is you're going to be here. Who are you bringing? Who are you bringing? Who are you bringing? And is it Marjorie Taylor Greene? Do you want some kind of protection of some kind? She would be around you here. She's kind of divisive.

And a lot of people don't like her in this very liberal town we call Charlottesville. Right. You probably want us around. Next thing you know, they try to move it to the Albemarle County, whatchamacallit. This whole thing is the worst aspect of politics. If you had to put a list together of the most divisive people in the country, you'd have Biden and Trump on there, no doubt. Biden and Trump, definitely Marjorie Taylor and Trump definitely Marjorie Taylor Greene Marjorie Taylor Greene might be in the top five

Boebert and then that woman that wrote a book about killing her dog you probably put Pelosi on that list yeah right you have a guy who's trying to beat another guy in Bob Good.

Another guy in Bob Good who is a, you may be able to characterize as a right radical. McGuire, who's a military veteran, a Navy SEAL, a business owner, already got some political chops. He's running for Congress now. He suggests bringing Marjorie Taylor Greene in the mix to a town that is the complete polar opposite of Marjorie Taylor Greene. Yeah. AOC is on that list as well, Ginny Hu says. I would agree with that. AOC is on that divisive list. No doubt.

Well said, AOC. That's true, Ginny Hu says. I would agree with that. AOC's on that divisive list. No doubt. Well said, AOC. That's true, Ginny Hu. Make it make sense. Please make it make sense. Moved from City Hall to a county polling location. To the Albemarle County office building.

I'm looking at the flyer. Early vote rally to save America is what's on the flyer. Join John McGuire and special guest Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene Wednesday, June 5th at 3.30 p.m. at the Albemarle County office building. This is going to be absolutely bananas. Yeah, instead of... There's something, there's a gas that is under the ground that emits through the sewers, like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Have you seen the movie where the green ooze would come from the sewers and come from underground? And that green ooze would creep out. And Shredder and Splinter and Raphael and Michelangelo and Donatello and Leonardo would be seen lurking in the ooze, that green ooze, eating pizzas or doing some Shredder Ninja moves.

That's what's happening in Charlottesville. This green ooze is coming out of the sewer system and making everyone crazy. I don't think it's just Charlottesville. And making everyone crazy. I don't think it's just Charlottesville. Turtle power. Who's your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle? Mine's Raphael. I like that he's a little snarky.

He's got a little chip on his shoulder. I don't know. I actually had the comics when I was a kid. And they were actively coming out. I don't know that I watched had the comics when I was a kid, and they were actively coming out. I don't know that I watched a whole lot of the movies. Oh, my goodness. They were fantastic. Fantastic?

Really? I'm now reliving my childhood through the eyes of my six-year-old, our six-year-old. Just fantastic. Give them a try. You like superhero stuff, too. When those four turtles work in unison with the guidance and oversight of Splinter,

Shredder has absolutely no chance. Absolutely no chance. It's the Wednesday edition of the I Love Ceevo show. Any closing thoughts? Got a 3.30 rally in Alamaro County on the city-county line basically with Marjorie

Taylor Greene in attendance. I was having this conversation with a friend yesterday. They do not intend to erect a stage, make speeches or stay for long. I was having this conversation with a friend yesterday, and I said to her,

we never lack content and fodder for this show. We do an hour without commercial break. No one else is doing an hour straight without commercial break. We never lack content or fodder. Some days we have more content and fodder than others, but we never lack fodder and content. Turtle power. Close us out here, Judah Wickauer.

I mean, here's a quote from a city spokesperson, Afton Schneider. The McGuire campaign staffer was asked by police captain Tony Newberry. And they say, he explained that our offices are nearby, Tony Newberry, and they could be on standby if they needed anything. You know, you've got some heavy-hitting, at least one heavy-hitting political figure

coming to town. Maybe you need some cops. The staffer told Captain Newberry that she would get back to him with the exact number of staff that would be in attendance, but we never heard back. It's bananas.

Let's try to beat Bob Good by bringing one of the most divisive people in America to Charlottesville and Alamaro County. Let's not tell anyone in Charlottesville and Alamaro County that works for Charlottesville and Alamaro County, let alone the police that's going to protect us. We're basically going behind enemy lines in Alamaro County and Charlottesville. We're going to try to do this without protection. We're going to call it a rally when we can't officially call it a rally within a polling center, within 40 feet or certain proximity of a voting center. We're going to break all the rules. We're going to bring one of the most divisive people there, and we're going to try to get somebody elected. And the person

we're competing is supporting Trump, even though Trump hates his guts. Make it make sense. Wednesday edition of the I Love Seville Show. Judah Wickower, Jerry Miller. Thank you for joining us. So long, everybody. Thank you.